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Speaker 1: Welcome to you Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff

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Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant sitting across from me,

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Speaker 1: back in the saddle. Uh, and there's the stuff you

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Speaker 1: should know yo, back in the satellite. Yeah. Do you

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Speaker 1: want to explain that or should we just leave it

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Speaker 1: in mystery the saddle? Well with the metaphorical saddle, isn't

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Speaker 1: this case? Yeah? Well, um, you know, we have been

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Speaker 1: kind of away, even though it seems like we've been

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Speaker 1: here every week. Through the magic of um digital recording.

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Speaker 1: That's right, pre recording, we uh, we batch recorded our

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Speaker 1: episodes and covered ourselves. We built up what we call

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Speaker 1: it Kittie and uh we've been releasing them steadily and

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Speaker 1: faithfully while we've been off recording a TV show, recording

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Speaker 1: a TV show. That's right, our own TV show where

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Speaker 1: and you be pointing this out to me? How cool

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Speaker 1: it is we play ourselves. Yeah. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: only thing I'm qualified to do it. Oh, yeah, totally.

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Speaker 1: We would have failed miserably if we've done, you know,

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Speaker 1: anything else, like a Sherlock Homes update or something like that.

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Speaker 1: There's so many of those going on already, I know,

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Speaker 1: so why not Yeah, why not elementary, my dear Clark. Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, we have a TV show coming out. I

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Speaker 1: guess we can talk about it freely. We're done. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll really ramp up the plug edge come December,

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Speaker 1: but look forward in January on Science Channel. And if

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Speaker 1: you don't have Science Channel, go out and purchase Science Channel. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we are. We do not know because I know

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Speaker 1: people are already asking about online um stuff. If they're

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Speaker 1: going to be available like uh, you know, through various

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Speaker 1: media outlets online. We don't know yet, and we're working

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Speaker 1: on that. We'd love for it too, but it's not

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Speaker 1: up to us. Yeah. So I mean you have to

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Speaker 1: head your bets and get Science Yes added to your

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Speaker 1: your cable subscription. And if your cable provider doesn't offer Channel,

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Speaker 1: you burn down their offices. That's right, until they do,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Um. Okay, So, Chuck, have you ever heard

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Speaker 1: of a little movie called Twilight? Yeah, I've seen all

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Speaker 1: those you've seen them. Yeah, Emily's read the books and

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Speaker 1: she's way into it, so I have been. I got

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Speaker 1: sucked into it. That's very supportive of you. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're very good. Um, but I must admit I

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Speaker 1: like when you watch four of something, or however many

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Speaker 1: it's been three of something, it just become a weird

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Speaker 1: When does that come out? I think probably sometime around

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Speaker 1: this published date. Oh really yeah, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving her Christmas release. Yeah. Okay, Um, well I bring

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Speaker 1: that up to propose that that's the only time we

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Speaker 1: talk about that franchise for throughout this whole podcast. Agreed, Agreed, Um,

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Speaker 1: because the vampires, which is what we're talking about, they

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Speaker 1: go back a very, very very long way. They've evolved,

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Speaker 1: they've changed, they've shifted their shape. But um, they seem

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Speaker 1: to all have certain characteristics in common. Right. For example, Um,

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Speaker 1: come out at night. Yeah, they're undead, Yeah, suck blood

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Speaker 1: al tenants of the modern vampire lore. Yes, and modern

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Speaker 1: And they said, well, of course it is lamas Do.

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Speaker 1: corpses who would rise from the grave kill again, and

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Speaker 1: Vladislav Bazzarreb. Yeah that's a creepy name period, yea. Um,

421
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: but it would be even creepier he was the prince

422
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: ruled Wallachia in the mid fourteen hundreds. Uh. Creepier is

423
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: that his father was vlad Drakul, Vlad the Dragon or

424
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: the devil, and um Vlad Jr. Was referred to as

425
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: Vlad Dracula, which is son of Dracula, or Vlad Tepis

426
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: or Lad the Impaler, because even though it's not verified,

427
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: supposedly he was a very fierce warrior. He would impale

428
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: his victims. Okay, I really feel like we should do

429
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: um the real Count Dracula episode. Sometime I wrote this

430
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: awesome article on it, and it is, it's verified. It

431
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: was there a real countract. It's about blood Tepis, the

432
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: vladim Paler. Yeah, because he just borrowed the name in

433
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: the in the title, right, he wasn't really based on

434
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: this guy who Count Dracula brom Stokers, Yes, version right.

435
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: Vlat Tepis was probably far far worse than um anything

436
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: bram Stoker wrote about Count Dracula, way worse. Yeah, his

437
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: like it is verified. Like, yes, he had all sorts

438
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: of guys who were um against him and who published

439
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: extensively all these um like books and pamphlets and all

440
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: the stuff to smear his name. But they got a

441
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: lot of stuff, right, Yeah, Like he was into some

442
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: horrible stuff. He killed a lot of people, Uh. He

443
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: had a lot of people killed. His armies killed a

444
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: lot of people. He uh, he's probably like most rulers

445
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: of the day. He was he was worse. He was

446
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: most likely worse than anybody else. So he borrows this

447
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: name in this title and social standing is an aristocat

448
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 1: aristocat great movie. You's a naked woman in that um

449
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: in that one in the Aristocats. Yeah, the Disney cartoon. Yeah,

450
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: that's the one with the Is that the one with

451
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: the No, I'm thinking of the rescuers. Oh, I remember

452
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 1: that there's a naked woman the rescuers when they're flying

453
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: through the city. If you watch it frame by frame,

454
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: they passed by a window and there is a photograph

455
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: of like a woman standing in the window naked. Um,

456
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: and like you have to watch it like in in

457
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, frame by frame is the only possible way

458
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: to see it. But it's in there. Yeah, they were dirty.

459
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: There's also the little mermaid thing. The the ballast is yeah,

460
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: hidden not so hidden ballast. Yeah. I'll bet that guy

461
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: was like, no one's ever going to see this, and

462
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: then he lost his job forever. So um So Stoker

463
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: borrows this, uh the name, Like I said, the social

464
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: standing says, this would be a great setting. Let's throw

465
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: it in Transylvania. Let's let's change a few things. Let's

466
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: borrow from a bunch of different uh folklore, and let's

467
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: let's say maybe you can't go out in the sunlight,

468
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: and let's bring up the crucifixes now, and let's make

469
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: him really smart and um charming. And well that was

470
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: largely Bella le GHOSTI that did that. Well, No, brom

471
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: Stokers was totally like that. I thought his was um

472
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: that he was like a withered, ugly old man, you know,

473
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: but he was still had like the stuct of power

474
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: and all that swave. Well because he was Yeah, he

475
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: changed ages if I remember correctly, Well he does in

476
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: the movie, and I've heard the movies a pretty faithful adaptation.

477
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: And it was also, I think the first time where um,

478
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they didn't have any reflection because

479
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: most of the previous lest uh legends they loved their reflection. Yeah, apparently,

480
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: not only were they in love with their own reflection

481
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: and they could be lost for hours staring into a mirror,

482
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: they were also supposedly obsessive compulsive, as some like Eastern

483
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: four'klore goes. And one way to ward off vampires was

484
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: to spread seeds outside of your house because the vampire

485
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: would be um bound to count every single seat. And

486
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: if you put a little nail or attack or something

487
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: in there, when the the vampire went to pick that

488
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: one up, it would prick itself and all drop all

489
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: the seeds to forget where it was and start counting

490
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: all over. You gotta start counting again, and then you'd

491
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: just be sitting inside, laughing, drinking your ale. Stupid vampires,

492
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: so um, but that was that was another difference. I'm

493
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: sorry we've been calling them stupid vampires and up until

494
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: the nineteenth century, like you could make that case like

495
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: they were kind of dead zombiesque a little bit um.

496
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: It was Stoker that introduced, like you say, not not

497
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: to sell this other stuff, but the acute intelligence, that's right,

498
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: this this very smart like power of persuasion, almost hypnotic

499
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,239
Speaker 1: Umvengali type. And in True Blood they have this thing

500
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: they do called glamouring, which is kind of a silly name,

501
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: but it's almost like a charm, like a spell that

502
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: they can put over you if you like black eyes

503
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: with one and you know when you glamor them there,

504
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, basically in a hypnotic state, you can. They're

505
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: highly suggestible, I get into a sexual way. Well, in

506
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: all kinds of ways, but yeah, there's plenty of They

507
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: usually are just like, take off your pants? Did they

508
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: say like that point and say in a creepy tone? Yeah, see,

509
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: you don't tell me you can't act. You could play

510
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: the role as a vampire. Take off your pants? Yeah,

511
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: you got the joke. Let's do some voguing. So you

512
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: mentioned Bella Lego si film Dracula Um, which was you know,

513
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: where we get the cape and the I want to

514
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: drink your blood and the sort of familiar modern vampire

515
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: that pop culturally speaking, that we're familiar with today. And

516
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: one of the best songs ever bus is Bella the

517
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: Ghost He's Dead. Yeah, excellent silent film Nosa Barato with

518
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: Max Shrek a little more true to the original creepy

519
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: looking guy. What was the movie starring Willem Dafoe and

520
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: um uh oh about Yeah? Yeah, that was good. What

521
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: is the name of that movie? Do you remember? I

522
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: can't remember, dude. That is such a good movie. Yeah,

523
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: I want to see that movie again. I do too, Actually,

524
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: it's a great one. The ending is just yeah, what

525
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: is it? Shadow of the vampire Ry? That life correction? Uh?

526
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: And Rice then came along and um yeah, nothing happened

527
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: in between, but and Rice definitely brought things more into

528
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: the forefront as far as um this range of emotions

529
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: and he's really complex characters. Um. I didn't think the

530
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: books were very good. But it's just not my bag.

531
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I read the first one and it's just

532
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: not my thing. Okay, yeah, I mean I'm not saying

533
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: it was not good, it's just not my thing. I'm

534
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: with you. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, of course classic. Not

535
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: a great movie, great TV series? Are you out of

536
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: your mind? You didn't like the movie. I didn't think

537
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: it was very good. Now, oh you're crazy. I love

538
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: that movie. Well that's good. Yeah. I thought it really

539
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: became itself when the cast changed. And I love that movie. Yeah,

540
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: well that's great. Have you seen the South Park where

541
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: like all the kids start becoming like vampires, all the

542
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: good kids. It's like very trendy and hip to be

543
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: to be like a vampire and give yourself a new

544
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: name and everything. Um, and they drink clomato. Oh I

545
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: love Clomato. Yeah, you're in the minority, buddy. That's the

546
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: secret to my famous bloody Mary. I know you've told

547
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: me it's a good South Park Chuck. I'll check it out.

548
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: Um are we now? So we talk about psychic vampires

549
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. I guess all right. These are people

550
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: in modern times that claim that they crave and feed

551
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: on others energy, their psychic energy, and they claim to

552
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: be vampire rish or vampire rick, vampire esque, vampire esque um,

553
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 1: and that they will not if they do not do this,

554
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: then they will not have feel like they have fed on,

555
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, sustenance like that is their sustenance is other

556
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: people's psychic energy. And it also goes back. It's you know,

557
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: modern people claim this, but it goes back, you know,

558
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: thousands of years. Um, this phenomenon does. It's nothing new. Well,

559
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: they actually think that it may have given rise to

560
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: vampire lords. We understand it now. And it's also a

561
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: metaphor if someone, you know, someone can call someone a

562
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: psychic vampire if they're just a drain as a person,

563
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, those people energy vampires. That's right. Not to

564
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: be confused with the other kind of energy vampire, which

565
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: is like your coffee maker. Yeah, these things that are

566
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: left on all night. Um. So there's there's We kind

567
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: of touched on it earlier, the idea of why, um,

568
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: where we would have gotten vampire legends. People use it

569
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: to explain phenomenon that we didn't understand before there was

570
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: such thing as like germ theory. Right. So you have

571
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: like um lamas too being blamed for sids and and

572
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: um ah, miscarriage is that kind of thing, right, and

573
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: then you have um a couple other diseases that we've

574
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: come to understand that they're like you know what, We've

575
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: never really definitively linked this to vampire lore, but I'll

576
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: bet you this gave rise to it. It probably didn't help.

577
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: So like like, what, uh, porpyra? Do you pronounce that porphyria? Porphyria?

578
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: All right, we'll go with that. Have you ever seen

579
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: the others? Is that what those kids had? All Right?

580
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: That makes sense. It's a rare disease um irreg irregularities

581
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: in the production of of him with himmy, which is

582
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: an hemoglobin he like himmy, I think got a himmy.

583
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: That's yeah. Um. And basically, what you're gonna be sensitive

584
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: to sunlight, you're gonna have a bad stomach pains, you

585
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: may be delirious. Um. Back in the day, one prescription

586
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: may have been to drink blood, So I would say

587
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: that's probably a dead giveaway, right, Yeah, And have you

588
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: seen pictures, Yeah, people stricken with us creepy looking. Their

589
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: teeth can be like red or black, and their gums

590
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: can be red and black, which is I think probably

591
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: another reason why they link that to that. And it's hereditary,

592
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: So there, you know, there were places where there was

593
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: more of this um happening than other places, which would

594
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: also lend itself to the whole vampire thing and feeding

595
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: on your family. Yes, same with tuberculosis, Like when when

596
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: people were kind of spread out except your family, and

597
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: there were nineteen of you and you all lived in

598
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: one house. If one of you had TB probably the

599
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: rest of you were going to catch TV and a

600
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: lot of you were gonna die from it. And whoever

601
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: was the first one to die of this was probably

602
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: the original vampire who's feeding on the other And you're

603
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: probably the one who's going to be dug up and

604
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: have your heart cut out and burned. But at that point,

605
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: who cares? And then there's another disease called catalepsy, which

606
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: is associated with epilepsy. This one is freaky. Do you

607
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: ever see that Twilight Zone where Um, I can't remember

608
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: what actor it was. It may have been the professor

609
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: from Gilligan's Island or he's in a cart and he's

610
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: paralyzed and he's the whole thing is just him talking

611
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: to himself in his head like he's locking these people, Yeah,

612
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: to not bury him because he's not dead, and um,

613
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: it's really it's a great episode. So is he cataleptic? No,

614
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 1: he was kind of like you said, locked in Twilight Zone.

615
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: Catalepsy is a it's a specific neurological just order, like

616
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: I said, associated with epilepsy, where your muscles just freeze

617
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: up and an episode like this can last for days

618
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: and your heart rate slows and your respiration slows and

619
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: you're alive and God knows what your brain is doing,

620
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: but you're alive during this time. But you know, prior

621
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: to stay embalming, you may have just been taken for

622
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: dead and putting in the ground and you had to

623
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: dig your way out and go back home. Yeah, And

624
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: it's also associated with schizophrenia, so you're sitting around the

625
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: dinner table and uncle, um, uncle, what vigo? Uncle Vigo?

626
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: Remember like to gamble. He comes in three days after

627
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: you buried him brushing dirt office overhauls in a schizophrenic

628
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: having a schizophrenic episode, and you you know you're gonna

629
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Speaker 1: you're smart, Which is just not fair because after an

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Speaker 1: experience like that, it's like, why would you wait? Why not?

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Speaker 1: Why not left kill this man before he goes to

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Speaker 1: this horrificectic experience and then it all end with a

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Speaker 1: stick through the heart. Let him get hit by a

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Speaker 1: truck with a hemmy or something ahead of time. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm not so sure about this suggestion, but

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Speaker 1: it might carry a little weight that what happens after

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Speaker 1: a regular human body dies. Um might have fed into

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Speaker 1: this a little bit, I would say. So, um, fingernails

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Speaker 1: and hair um continue growing. So this is like if

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Speaker 1: they diggy back up, they're like, look, the fingernails are long,

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Speaker 1: the hair has grown. They're bloated because you're full of

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Speaker 1: you know, gases expanding. So let's cut them open and

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Speaker 1: this all this fluid drains out and say, see they've

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Speaker 1: been growing their hair and fingernails and feeding on others

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Speaker 1: bodily fluids. They're alive there well or undead but uh well,

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Speaker 1: I mean like they're going back and resting and like

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Speaker 1: they obviously have gorged themselves. Look at their stomach. It's

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Speaker 1: all the stend did. Yeah. So I mean I think

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Speaker 1: it was probably like the nail in the coffin on

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Speaker 1: their beliefs, like this is is all absolutely correct. Yeah

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Speaker 1: I could see that though. Yes, and then the notion

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Speaker 1: of the vampire bat um came along later on, where

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Speaker 1: the vampire could shape shift into bats and sometimes wolves,

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Speaker 1: although in Twilight, wolves and vampires are on opposite sides. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I said I would mention it again. Yeah, there I went. Um,

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Speaker 1: but the whole thing of the vampire bat was just

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Speaker 1: like a creepy uh you know, real vampire bats are

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Speaker 1: docile creatures and they might drink like the blood of

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Speaker 1: a cow, but they're not attacking people. No, that was

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Speaker 1: all for there's harmless is vampire babies. You know, what

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Speaker 1: are some of your favorite movies, Josh, Oh, vampire movies? No,

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Speaker 1: just comedies like a DC CAM Doctor Detroit. Um, I

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Speaker 1: is lost boys. It definitely has a kitch value. Now

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Speaker 1: that is a great movie. It doesn't hold up super well.

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Speaker 1: Tho have you seen it? No, I haven't seen it

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Speaker 1: in a while. And it's the ways that other eighties

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Speaker 1: movies don't really because that was like a cool movie. Ye,

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Speaker 1: Echo and the Bunny Man covered the doors in it.

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Speaker 1: Come on shall not Ki? Yeah, it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: stream song. Near Dark. Did you ever see that one?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Nineties seven Bill Paxton and uh

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Speaker 1: that one guy Lance Heinrixen. They're like these modern vampires

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Speaker 1: traveling in an RV through the desert and killing people.

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Speaker 1: Really good. I have not seen Near Dark is excellent.

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Speaker 1: What about first bite with the George? George Hamilton's first

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Speaker 1: bite was Yeah, he's like a disco Dracula. Vampire's kiss

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Speaker 1: was funny. Nick Cage, I never saw that one. That

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Speaker 1: was good. I thought the original Fright Night. Granted it

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Speaker 1: good back in the day. I haven't seen that. Um Coronos,

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Speaker 1: have you seen that? Garma del Toro? I don't good one.

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Speaker 1: I think I've seen it, and then um of course

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Speaker 1: let the right one in both versions to me very good. Really,

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Speaker 1: I heard the American version was compared to the original.

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Speaker 1: I thought they were both pretty great. I'll check it out.

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Speaker 1: Then you know, they didn't like definitely didn't ruin it

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Speaker 1: by americanizing it. And then there of course the bad

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Speaker 1: ones like Van Helsing West Craven's Dracula two thousand, um

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Speaker 1: Blood rain r a y any. I mean there's lots

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Speaker 1: and lots of bad vampartments. Dracula dead and loving it?

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Speaker 1: That looks good though. Um, do you know how many

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Speaker 1: emails we're gonna get from people that would say, like

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Speaker 1: you forgot about this one? Yeah? But let's just say

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Speaker 1: there are hundreds of vampire movies. There's TV shows now

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Speaker 1: in the Vampire Diaries, True Blood, which I mentioned, which

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, and um, Twilight Breaking Dawn part two,

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Speaker 1: What is your problems in theaters near you? Oh? Actually

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Speaker 1: that's seventy nine Dracula with Franklin Jella. That was good.

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Speaker 1: Did he play Dracula? Yeah? He was good. Oh yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I could see him. I'm sorry I wasn't thinking of

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Speaker 1: the right person. And then if you're into old movies.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can't go wrong with with Bella Orghossi

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Speaker 1: or uh not Sparato. Take some time watch an old movie.

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Speaker 1: That's what I say. Yeah, that's that's pretty much your

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Speaker 1: life coaching, I think. So take some time watch an

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Speaker 1: old movie, says Chuck. Yeah, watch some of them black

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Speaker 1: and white for a change. Um. Hey, also, while we're

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Speaker 1: while we're on this kind of scary esque topic, you

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Speaker 1: want to plug somebody real quick? Yeah, I think we

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Speaker 1: have another horrors as right as we said we would

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Speaker 1: um plug people who send in their stuff for a

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Speaker 1: horror fiction contest um and who went on to publish stuff. Um.

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Speaker 1: And one of the guys, Christopher Kelly, who wrote the

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Speaker 1: very cool short story Variable um, took us up on that.

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Speaker 1: And he says that he has a creepy novella about

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Speaker 1: two boys whose father tries to kill them, called Abraham

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Speaker 1: Road not Bram Road. Uh. He says that it's, um,

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Speaker 1: it's what would have happened if HP Lovecraft rewrote of

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Speaker 1: Mice and Men, which is pretty awesome. It's available on Kindle.

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Speaker 1: You can go find that on Amazon dot com Abraham

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Speaker 1: Road ebook. Uh. And then he also has a collection

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Speaker 1: called I held my breath as long as I could.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three stories of the Strange the Sinister in the

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Speaker 1: Literary Um and you can get that on Amazon as well,

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Speaker 1: so check those out. Christopher Kelly, thanks for sending in

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Speaker 1: your work. We liked it a lot. And remember, anybody

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Speaker 1: else who has lisched and entered our horror fiction contest,

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Speaker 1: we want to say thanks by letting everybody know about

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Speaker 1: your stuff. The great If you wanted more about vampires, man,

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Speaker 1: it's been a while. Yes, um, you can type that

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Speaker 1: It will bring up a bunch of cool stuff, including, um,

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Speaker 1: who was the real Count Dracula? This vampire article written

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Speaker 1: by Tracy Wilson, which is a great one. Tracy wrote that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: couldn't you tell? It's pretty thorough? Uh. And then also

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Speaker 1: stuff up. It's since I said search bar, it's time

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Speaker 1: for listener mail. All right, Josh, we're gonna call this

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Speaker 1: a trivia plug. Um. We went to New York for

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Speaker 1: tomic Con and we had one of our trivia nights

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Speaker 1: there and one of the things that we were required

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Speaker 1: to do and want to do is read the names

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Speaker 1: of the trivia winners. And so I got emails from

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Speaker 1: them and then in the runner up team because they

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Speaker 1: were cool and I'm gonna read them all. This is

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Speaker 1: from the winner, Kyle um Jannish or Yannish. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure how he grown was that. Thanks guys for hosting

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Speaker 1: the event. Um. As an Avid s y s K listener,

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Speaker 1: our team, Steve Holt, had a great time. The team

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Speaker 1: name was Steve Holt. We were made up of mainly

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Speaker 1: former Midwesterners, which gave us a good advantage in the

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Speaker 1: Great Lakes question. We had three girls in fashion, Caitlin Grommel,

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Speaker 1: Monica Lange, and Amy Guidal. We also had three teachers,

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Speaker 1: Dan Farrell, Michael Rakowski and myself Kyle Janish and my

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Speaker 1: twin who does social work, Mike Jannish and my friend

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Speaker 1: who seems to always be working for a pyramid scheme,

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Speaker 1: Mike as Sterling. So those were the winners there, and uh,

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Speaker 1: he says the fashion expertise did not come in handy

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Speaker 1: this time, but we were prepared for anything except for

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Speaker 1: They were far behind coming in the last question, but

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Speaker 1: wagered it all in one. Um, it's crazy, that's how

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Speaker 1: it goes in. At one of our events. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: Kyle and his brother Mike remember meeting them. There were

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Speaker 1: buddies with Joe him and he says thanks for hosting

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Speaker 1: and thanks for the sweet T shirts. And then the

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Speaker 1: runner ups, runners up, runners ups, sorry than ghost of

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Speaker 1: Williams Sapphire just for him through to uh thanks for

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Speaker 1: hosting the super fun trivia night at the Cutting Room. Um,

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Speaker 1: and boy, by the way, thank you cutting Room. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that place is amazing and very generous in hosting us,

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Speaker 1: and it is back up and running after like redoing

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Speaker 1: the inside and it is really nice. So give them

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Speaker 1: some love if you live in New York. Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: a longtime listener four years of Pure Love, and I

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Speaker 1: recently got my boyfriend David booked as well, and it

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Speaker 1: has been a nerdy bonding experience for us. Anyway, we

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Speaker 1: decided to come up from Virginia. Came up from virgin

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Speaker 1: never knows that's a long dry um. We met some

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Speaker 1: awesome people in line and formed teen phil um. Our

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Speaker 1: lovely teammates were Paul mcgowski, Leah Talman, Jim Nelson, Charlie Tran,

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Speaker 1: David Bury, and two others who skipped out early, and

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Speaker 1: myself who is Natalie David. And Natalie is the one

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Speaker 1: who brought us the Mike's on pants off T shirts,

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Speaker 1: so um. Not only was that super nice, but they

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Speaker 1: sat in the table next to us and I was

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Speaker 1: able to talk a lot of smack with them, and

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Speaker 1: so I said I would read about them on the show.

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Speaker 1: This is just how it goes to one of our

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Speaker 1: trivia events. Would bring people together chuck talk smack like

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Speaker 1: directly to you. It's a lot of fun. So Natalie

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Speaker 1: David says, thanks a lot and cheers, and I hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed the shirts and all that good stuff. We

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Speaker 1: also we met the convo Kings, who we've been in

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Speaker 1: touch with. That's right. They have a podcast of their

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Speaker 1: own called appropriately Appropriately the convok Um and uh yeah

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Speaker 1: that's worth checking out too. So it was great fun

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Speaker 1: meeting everyone, and it's always fun. I enjoyed Robin elbows

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