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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is Verdict with center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator.

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Speaker 2: I hope you had a fabulous Fourth of July with

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Speaker 2: your family, and we've got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess it's going to be a lot about

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Speaker 2: Biden because that's what everybody else in the country was

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Speaker 2: chatting about over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's certainly true.

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Speaker 4: Chaos ensues in the Democrat Party, paddic is continuing to grow.

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Speaker 4: But before we talk about that, I will say you

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Speaker 4: and I are both sitting here. It is Sunday night,

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Speaker 4: We're both in Houston, Texas, and a hurricane is preparing

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Speaker 4: to make landfall in the Great State of Texas. It

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Speaker 4: is expected down south of here, somewhere around Victoria. It's

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Speaker 4: expected to make landfall late tonight, somewhere one or two

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Speaker 4: in the morning.

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Speaker 3: So just before this.

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Speaker 4: Podcast goes live to the world, and the projections are

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Speaker 4: right now that it may accelerate to a category one

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Speaker 4: or category two hurricane and then move north up to

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Speaker 4: you and me in Houston. We're anticipating anywhere from five

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Speaker 4: inches to as much as fifteen inches of depending on

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Speaker 4: where you where you are, So so let me say,

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Speaker 4: first of all, to everyone in Texas, stay safe.

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Speaker 3: Don't.

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Speaker 4: You and I were talking right before we started filming this.

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Speaker 4: You were saying, it's your first hurricane in Houston. I'm

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Speaker 4: a lifelong Houstonian and hurricanes are part of life here.

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Speaker 4: But the best advice is stay safe. Don't risk anything.

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Speaker 4: If you see water and don't know how deep it is,

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Speaker 4: don't drive into it. Where people are most frequently in

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Speaker 4: harm's way is they drive into what they think is

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Speaker 4: shallow water and it ends up being deeper and more dangerous.

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Speaker 3: And so keep your family safe.

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Speaker 4: Our prayers are going to be with everyone along the

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Speaker 4: Gulf coast tonight, and make make sure you don't take

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Speaker 4: any unnecessary risks and you listen to first responders and

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Speaker 4: stay at a harm's way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: I also want to ask you about this week you

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Speaker 2: were hanging out with fam. How many people around fourth

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Speaker 2: of July asked you about Joe Biden? Everyone look look

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Speaker 2: fourth of July.

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Speaker 4: I had a great, great several days with with my

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Speaker 4: youngest daughter Catherine. The two of us together hung out.

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Speaker 4: Now Heidi and Caroline went on a mission trip to Africa,

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Speaker 4: which was a fantastic experience.

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Speaker 4: Caroline went with Heidi and with Heidie's mom and and

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Speaker 4: and they were in Zambia. Had an incredible time there.

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Speaker 4: But but you know, I got to say it over

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Speaker 4: the fourth of July, you know, we were we were

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Speaker 4: barbecuing burgers. Unlike Chuck Schumer, we actually know to turn

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Speaker 4: the heat on and to cook the burger before you

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Speaker 4: put the cheese on. So so so that's that's something

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Speaker 4: apparently Democrats don't understand how actually agrilla burger. But just

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Speaker 4: about every every durn conversation standing around on the fourth

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Speaker 4: of July was what's happening with Biden?

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Speaker 3: Is he going what's going to happen? And and and

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Speaker 3: and I.

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Speaker 4: Got to say, we have seen the chaos spreading. Uh,

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Speaker 4: we've seen the White House damage control really not going

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Speaker 4: well at all. And and also on today's podcast, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to modify my prediction at least some what I

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Speaker 4: now think there's a significant chance we may get an

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Speaker 4: outcome different than what I predict.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna explain all that.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we're changing predictions. I like this.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to what you said a moment ago, Senator.

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Speaker 2: You said, you're you're going to quote slightly change your

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Speaker 2: prediction for everyone that doesn't know.

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Speaker 1: You predicted nine almost ten months.

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Speaker 2: Ago now that if Joe Biden was replaced, it would

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Speaker 1: So how are we changing it. I'm intrigued.

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Speaker 4: Well, that was my prediction, as you said, nine ten

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Speaker 4: I said, there's a real possibility. I didn't believe nine

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Speaker 4: but I thought there was a real, significant possibility. There

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Speaker 4: were Democrats who were flighting floating trial balloons even back then.

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Speaker 4: The media was floating trial balloons even back then. And

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Speaker 4: as I laid out my reasoning, I thought Michelle Obama

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Speaker 4: fifty to fifty or greater that they would pull the

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Speaker 4: I both watched the debate. We watched it real time,

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Speaker 4: after the podcast and immediately after the debate. Rather and

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Speaker 4: Michelle Obama in a really strong position, and as someone

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Speaker 4: to see that happen. What is interesting, though, the Democrats

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Speaker 4: now going to modify it and say among that eighty percent,

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Speaker 4: I think it is fifty to fifty whether they go

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Speaker 4: But it's interesting we have seen Democrats positioning, fighting, pushing

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go over. Why you think that Kamala

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Speaker 2: has jumped up for me personally? I do think they're

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Speaker 2: kind of forced in a position where she's the front runner.

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Speaker 2: Just from the aspect of the money. The money that's

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Speaker 2: and the campaign apparatus. Is that why you're saying she

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Speaker 2: has a much higher chance now than you said before.

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Speaker 4: No, No, the money. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: a Democrat that's not going to constrain their choice. Look,

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Speaker 4: Michelle Obama, what I laid out ten months ago was

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Speaker 4: that Kamala was obviously a deeply flawed candidate. But if

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Speaker 4: because their party, they're such bean counters. Their party would implode.

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Speaker 4: And so the Gavin Newsom noticed. I put the odds

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear you say it because it's

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Speaker 4: No, No, it's the Democrat Party. If they pushed an

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Speaker 4: only human being on planet Earth who can push Kamala

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Speaker 4: The Kennedys have gone, and the Obamas have replaced replaced them,

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Speaker 4: Instead, what you've seen is moultiple Democrats beginning to push Kamala,

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Speaker 4: yeah hard, push her hard, and say, look, if Joe

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Speaker 3: It's no one else, It's Kamala. It' Kamala, it's Kaba.

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Speaker 4: So for me, it's not the money, it's you get

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Speaker 4: And I think as people get further and further down

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Speaker 4: course you're on. And you're already seeing lots of stories

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Speaker 4: from the Democratic side. No, no, no, no, Kamala is

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Speaker 4: a much stronger candidate than you think. All of you

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Speaker 4: people who who think she's a weak candidate, you're all wrong,

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Speaker 4: and she's going to be Madam President. We saw, you know,

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Speaker 4: Jim Clyburn go on TV and say, look, I support

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Speaker 4: if Kamala Harris is not on the ticket. But he

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Speaker 4: goes on to say, and that means I support Kamala

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Speaker 4: Harris even if Joe Biden's not on the ticket. Now

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Speaker 4: that's a big deal because without Clideburn, Biden doesn't get

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Speaker 4: the nomination. In twenty twenty, he played a pivotal role

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Speaker 4: And I think that was a serious signal that the

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Speaker 4: powers that be, they're freaking out, but more of them

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about this Stepanophoulis interview, and you and I

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Speaker 2: mentioned that it was an important interview. Obviously at the

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Speaker 4: So I'm first running for Senate. It's a twenty twelve election.

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Speaker 4: It was a miserable debate. Thankfully, there were like twelve

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Speaker 4: I was never going to let that happen again.

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Speaker 2: That's hey, it only takes once, right and then you

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Speaker 1: I'm going to play it, and I want your reaction.

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Speaker 5: We have a very bold and vibrant president in Joe Biden, but.

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Speaker 6: A majority of Americans, according a majority of Democrats according

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Speaker 5: What do you say to that, I mean, George, I

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Speaker 5: But he is an extraordinary leader. And I wish that

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Speaker 7: Now. If you win the second term, as you and

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Speaker 5: Yes, I am if necessary. But Joe Biden is gonna

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Speaker 8: To very prominent Washington Post articles today talking about President

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Speaker 9: President Biden is the first president to take on in

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Speaker 2: I'm not going I mean you you listen to this

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Speaker 1: And release the results to the American people.

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Speaker 10: Look, I have a cognitive test every single day. Every day,

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Speaker 10: I have that test everything I do. You know, not

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Speaker 10: only am I campaigning, but I'm running the world.

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Speaker 5: And that sound how it sounds like.

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Speaker 10: Iprobaly, But we are the central nation in the world,

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Speaker 10: and I don't know that was right. And every single day,

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Speaker 10: for example, today, before I come out here, I'm on

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Speaker 10: the phone with the Prime minister. You or I shouldn't

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Speaker 10: get into detail.

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Speaker 2: But he can't remember which prime minister he's on the

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Speaker 2: phone with. It says I got this under control, guys,

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Speaker 2: I don't need a cognitive test from a doctor.

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Speaker 4: I do it every day well and look to be fair,

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Speaker 4: he may well have had that test. I mean, we

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Speaker 4: also had the stories break this past week. That's the

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Speaker 4: New York Post. President Biden's physician met with Parkinson's disease

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Speaker 4: specialist in the White House. A top Washington neurologist had

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Speaker 4: a meeting with President Biden's personal doctor at the White

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Speaker 4: House earlier this year. Visitors logs reviewed by the Post

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Speaker 4: show doctor Kevin Canard, a Parkinson's disease expert at Walter

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Speaker 4: Reed Medical Center, met with doctor Kevin O'Connor and two

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Speaker 4: others at the White House Residence clinic on January seventeenth,

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Speaker 4: according to records, which emerge as questions continue to swirl

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Speaker 4: about the eighty one year old president's mental health in

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Speaker 4: the wake of his debate debacle last week with former

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Speaker 4: President Trump. Now that there was yet another headline from

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Speaker 4: the Washington Examiner which is even more stunning, which is quote,

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Speaker 4: top Parkinson's disease specialist visited White House ten times since

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, according.

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Speaker 3: To the visitors' logs. And I'm going to.

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Speaker 4: Read from that story, President, but Joe Biden's physician met

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Speaker 4: with a top Washington, DC neurologists who specialized in Parkin's

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Speaker 4: disease earlier this year. Cannard's name shows up in the

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Speaker 4: visitors logs ten times since November fifteenth, twenty twenty and

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Speaker 4: Ron Jackson, who Ronnie Jackson, who now the congressman from Texas,

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Speaker 4: a good friend who used to be the White House physician,

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Speaker 4: said quote, it is highly likely they were talking about Biden.

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Speaker 4: He should only be regularly treating the President and the

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Speaker 4: first family. That is the White House physician ten times.

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Speaker 4: It's a very simple question. Why do you have a

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Speaker 4: top Parkinson's disease specialist coming to the White House ten

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Speaker 4: times since twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ten times. So if that is the case, And

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Speaker 2: I love how now all of a sudden, the media

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Speaker 2: is doing their job right, Like they're doing their job

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Speaker 2: and they're and they're actually digging and they're asking questions.

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Speaker 3: But it's all they didn't report on that a month ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, they're doing it now, but it's not for

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Speaker 2: the right reasons. And that's why I say, don't give

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Speaker 2: them any credit. It's because they've gotten their marching orders

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Speaker 2: from Democratic donors. And the Democratic Party that your job

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Speaker 2: now is to get rid of Joe Biden. I mean

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Speaker 2: the Stepanopolis interview. I wanted to give him credit, but

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Speaker 2: I know what's happening. I'm not an idiot. This is

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Speaker 2: not the normal George Stepanopolis.

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Speaker 1: His job.

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Speaker 2: They sent him there to take down Biden, to be

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Speaker 2: the hit man to end his presidency. And the way

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Speaker 2: he treated him was the way he would treat Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump in an interview. It was shocking to watch, but

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Speaker 2: you have to understand they're doing it because they think

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Speaker 2: they're going to lose their power, because they think they're

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Speaker 2: going to lose with Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're panicking. We're seeing Democrats panic, We're seeing the

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Speaker 4: media panic. They want to push Joe out. It's why

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Speaker 4: I put the odds at eighty percent. And look over

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Speaker 4: the last week, the drip, drip, drip keeps coming. So

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Speaker 4: The New York Times in this past week reported quote

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Speaker 4: a senior White House official, though unnamed, as telling the

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Speaker 4: New York Times Biden should stand aside. That's a senior

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Speaker 4: White House official in the Biden white House, mind you.

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Speaker 4: The Washington Post on July fifth, Senator Mark Warner a

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Speaker 4: Democrat works to gather Senate Democrats to ask Biden to

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Speaker 4: exit the race. Then, on July seventh, Axios reports that

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Speaker 4: the Democratic senators Biden huddles called off. And here's what

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Speaker 4: Axios reported quote, Senate Democrats won't meet Monday to discuss

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Speaker 4: their support for President Biden continuing his reelection bid, despite

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Speaker 4: an effort by Senator Mark Warner to organize such a meeting.

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Speaker 4: This every day we have now I think it's five

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Speaker 4: Democrat House members who have called for Biden to step down,

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Speaker 4: and every day it keeps getting more and more and more,

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Speaker 4: and there's nothing that the Biden white House has done

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Speaker 4: to stop the bleeding.

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Speaker 2: They've also tried to act like the President's willing to

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Speaker 2: do interviews anywhere at any time, and this has now

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Speaker 2: turned into another major problem for this white House. You

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Speaker 2: have one radio host who's now been fired and another

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Speaker 2: one that is under major scrutiny because in two different cities,

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Speaker 2: in two different places in America, the same exact interview

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Speaker 2: took place with Joe Biden. CNN calling out one of

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Speaker 2: the hosts as they interview these radio hosts who spoke

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Speaker 2: with Biden, and they had these interviews and they knew

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Speaker 2: what they were doing. They heard the questions both interviews

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Speaker 2: and separate cities, and they're like, this is the same

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Speaker 2: damn interview happening two times over. And then CNN's like,

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Speaker 2: all right, we're all in favor of getting Joe Biden out.

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Speaker 2: So they called out the White House for this. Take

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Speaker 2: a listen, Andrea.

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Speaker 6: Let me ask you here about your interviews and something.

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Speaker 6: I listened to both of them, and there's something that's

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Speaker 6: similar here. Each were you asked four questions, and maybe

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Speaker 6: that's what you were allowed to ask by the campaign

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Speaker 6: or the White House, but they were essentially the same questions.

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Speaker 6: Both interviews about accomplishments progress in your respective state, what's

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Speaker 6: at stake in the election, what he has to say

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Speaker 6: about his debate performance, and what he would say to

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Speaker 6: voters who think their vote doesn't matter or might sit

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Speaker 6: this election out. Were those questions given to you by

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Speaker 6: the White House or did you have for the campaign

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Speaker 6: or did you have to submit questions ahead of this interview?

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Speaker 1: The questions were sent to me for approval. I approved

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Speaker 1: to them.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So the White House sent the questions to you

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Speaker 6: ahead of the interview, Yes, okay.

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Speaker 1: I got several questions, eight of them and the four

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Speaker 1: them were.

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Speaker 11: Chosen with the ones that I approved.

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Speaker 6: Okay, and the reason I ask. It's not a criticism

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Speaker 6: of either view. It's just that if the White House

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Speaker 6: is trying now to.

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Speaker 10: Prove the.

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Speaker 6: Vim vigor acuity of the president, I don't know how

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Speaker 6: they do that by sending questions first before the interview,

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Speaker 6: so that the president knows what's coming.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 11: The campaign and his statements did not deny providing these

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Speaker 11: questions to that radio show host, but they did add

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Speaker 11: that the interview was not conditioned on acceptance of those questions,

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Speaker 11: and added that the any reporter can ask the questions

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Speaker 11: that they see fit. Now today, the campaign is also

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Speaker 11: saying that they're changing their practices going forward and that

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Speaker 11: they will no longer be recommending questions ahead of interviews.

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Speaker 11: One source familiar with the Biden booking operation over at

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Speaker 11: the campaign said, while interview hosts have always been free

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Speaker 11: to ask whatever questions they please, moving forward, we will

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Speaker 11: refrain from offering suggested questions.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you listen to that, and not only did

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Speaker 2: this one person that was in that interview, that radio

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Speaker 2: host and your lawful Sanders, she's been forced resigned from

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Speaker 2: WRD Radio after admitting her post debate interview with President

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Speaker 2: Biden included questions that were pre selected by the Biden

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Speaker 2: campaign team. The station owner said it was furious by

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Speaker 2: this the presidency of the Philadelphia base station, announcing a

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Speaker 2: statement posted on Sunday this the interview featured predetermined questions

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Speaker 2: provided by the White House, which violates our practice of

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Speaker 2: remaining an independent media outlet accountable to our listeners. As

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Speaker 2: a result, Miss Lawful Sanders and wr D Radio have

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Speaker 2: mutually agreed to part ways, effective immediately.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: WRD, by the way, is Pennsylvania's only black owned talk

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Speaker 2: radio station. So this was a terrible day for the

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Speaker 2: history and heritage of the station to basically realize that

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Speaker 2: the White House called and said, hey, you want Biden,

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Speaker 2: all right, we'll give you Biden on your show and

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Speaker 2: give you this press, but only if you ask the

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Speaker 2: four questions that we tell you to ask. And not

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Speaker 2: only do they do it in this city, but they

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Speaker 2: also did it back in Milwaukee as well.

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Speaker 3: Well. Look a couple observations.

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Speaker 4: Number one, it's very interesting to know that there are

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Speaker 4: apparently still people at CNN who know how to do journalism.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think they knew how to do that. But

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Speaker 4: you actually saw, very briefly a CNN journalist asking questions,

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Speaker 4: behaving like a real journalist. And you're right, it's because

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Speaker 4: the narrative is shifted and they're now, I think, happy

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Speaker 4: to push Biden out. Two months ago they would not

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Speaker 4: have been willing to do that. But secondly, this thing

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Speaker 4: is utterly corrupt. It shows how completely in bed with

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Speaker 4: the Democrats that the media is. That you have the

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Speaker 4: White House of the campaign and I guess they don't

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Speaker 4: specify which one it is, giving the questions to the

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Speaker 4: interviewer saying here's what you will ask, which means, by

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Speaker 4: the way, that Joe Biden is probably reading the answers

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Speaker 4: that you know he And it makes you wonder how

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Speaker 4: many other reporters have done that at the White House

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Speaker 4: press briefing when Biden has a list in front of him,

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Speaker 4: call on so and so, how many times does he

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Speaker 4: know the question and read the answer to it. And look,

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Speaker 4: you've worked at media a long time. I've been in

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Speaker 4: the Senate for twelve years. For people listening to this podcast,

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Speaker 4: you need to understand this is not normal. It's at

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Speaker 4: least not normal. If you're not a corrupt Democrat.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, look, I do this fair amount

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Speaker 2: with people that I interview right over the years, and

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Speaker 2: I've had campaigns or officely say, hey, the Senator or

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Speaker 2: the congressman or the governor has this piece of legislation,

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Speaker 2: if you'd please ask him a question about that. It's

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Speaker 2: something it's very important, and then it's going to be introduced.

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Speaker 2: And I'm fine with that. But if you gave me

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Speaker 2: four questions to ask and said you get them only,

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Speaker 2: if you asked these four questions and these four questions only,

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Speaker 2: I would tell them to pound sand no matter who

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Speaker 2: it was, because that's not doing an interview. That's that

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Speaker 2: that that that's a scripted moment. You might as well

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Speaker 2: just have the president sit there at the White House

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Speaker 2: and say, here are the four questions are going.

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Speaker 1: To answer today that I chose.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, it's I've done hundreds of interviews, if not

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Speaker 4: maybe thousands of interviews. I've done a crap ton of interviews. Uh,

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Speaker 4: to the best of my knowledge, I've certainly never submitted questions.

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Speaker 4: The best of my knowledge, no one on my team has. Now,

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Speaker 4: what is typical is what you just said. If you're

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Speaker 4: doing an interview. Let's say I'm going on Hannity. It's

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Speaker 4: typical that that that my press team will talk with

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Speaker 4: Hannity's producers and they'll discuss some topics. So if you're

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Speaker 4: going to talk about the Biden debate, or if you're

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Speaker 4: going to talk about illegal immigration, or sometimes there's some

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Speaker 4: story that just broke of, like you know, th real

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Speaker 4: the or the terrorist you know, being the the eight

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Speaker 4: terrorists suspected terrorists from Tajikistan just released. If there's a

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Speaker 4: story that just broke the producer will tell my press team, Hey,

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Speaker 4: Sean wants to ask about this. That's typical, so you

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Speaker 4: have some idea what the topic is you're discussing, so

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Speaker 4: that you can be prepared. But I'll tell you my

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Speaker 4: guess is of the interviews I do, at least half

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Speaker 4: of them, they asked me something that is not a

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Speaker 4: topic that they mentioned at all, So you know, it's

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Speaker 4: it's helpful to have. Okay, if we're going to do Israel,

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Speaker 4: I should probably be up on the latest developments of

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Speaker 4: and the absolute arrogance that the Biden campaign has that

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Speaker 4: they they fully assume that that that fake journalists will

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Speaker 4: be more than happy to comply.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like they're shopping for anyone that will play

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Speaker 2: and it deals again with the media. One the media hypocrisy,

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Speaker 2: I think is an all time high. But how long

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Speaker 2: as usual? How many more days can they continue to

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Speaker 2: go after Joe Biden if he refuses to drop out?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the instant Biden is out and they

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Speaker 4: coordinate the next person, then the media will absolutely fall

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Speaker 4: in line and it will become a straight on cheer leading.

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Speaker 4: It will be hallelujah, hallelujah. The problems are all solved.

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Speaker 4: Now we must all vote for either Kamalo or Michelle

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Speaker 4: Obama and and save America and and stop stop Orange

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Speaker 4: Man bad. I mean, and the it would be instantaneous.

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Speaker 4: But you know, let me make a couple of quick

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Speaker 4: more observations on that point. You know, as you and

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Speaker 4: I were talking about doing interviews and getting questions ahead

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Speaker 4: of time. As I said, I've done a gazillion of

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Speaker 4: them and and and have not had the questions ahead

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Speaker 4: of time. But you know, I was actually thinking about it.

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Speaker 4: On this podcast, We've interviewed a bunch of folks. Now

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Speaker 4: I'm not a journalist. I don't pretend to be a journalist. Uh,

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Speaker 4: but even when we interview people on this podcast, we've

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Speaker 4: never given people of questions ahead of time. And I

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Speaker 4: actually thought back to it to an interview that that

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Speaker 4: that that on this podcast actually but before you were

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Speaker 4: my co host, what it was Michael Doles and me

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Speaker 4: where we interviewed Bill Barr. And we interviewed Bill Barr

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Speaker 4: at the Department of Justice. He was the sitting Attorney General.

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Speaker 4: And it was interesting. His communication staff was really freaked

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Speaker 4: out and they were like, Okay, well, well, how's this

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Speaker 4: gonna be and and listen. I've known Bill for twenty

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Speaker 4: years and we're friends, and I'm telling him, relax, I'm

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Speaker 4: not I'm not gonna play games. This, this is not

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Speaker 4: this is not a gotcha interview. This is not trying

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Speaker 4: to you know, go stick it to him. And I didn't,

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Speaker 4: but it ended up being It was one of our

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Speaker 4: most listened podcasts we've ever done, in part because Bill

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Speaker 4: was someone who would come across on TV as as

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Speaker 4: as pretty stiff and tight and you know, very controlled,

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Speaker 4: and because he and I are friends, he was relaxed

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Speaker 4: and we were cutting up. And Bill as funny as hell.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he has this wickedly sarcastic sense of humor,

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Speaker 4: and and it came out we had a great, free range,

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Speaker 4: free ranging interview that look what a podcast is good.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like a.

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Speaker 4: Couple of guys sitting at a cafe having dinner and

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Speaker 4: and just shooting the bree He's talking about what's going on.

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Speaker 4: But even then, with someone I'd known twenty years, I

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Speaker 4: don't even think I told him the topics we were

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Speaker 4: going to discuss. We just sat down and now I

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Speaker 4: wasn't playing gotcha games. But that's what we did. But

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Speaker 4: let me make a second point about just how astonishingly

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Speaker 4: rapidly the media can do one hundred and eighty degree reversal.

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Speaker 4: So on this podcast, we've talked a lot about Hunter

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Speaker 4: Biden and the whole Hunter Biden investigations and the trials,

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Speaker 4: and for months and months and months and for years

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Speaker 4: and years and years, the White House narrative and the

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Speaker 4: corporate media narrative was Hunter is a poor, troubled son.

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Speaker 4: He struggles with substance abuse, He's a sad soul, and

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Speaker 4: it's all about him. But they've said he has nothing, nothing,

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Speaker 4: nothing to do with the White House. No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: no Hunter, when he was making millions of dollars from

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Speaker 4: every corrupt oligarch in every enemy of America across the planet,

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Speaker 4: whether the Chinese Communists or the Russians or what have you,

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Speaker 4: that had nothing to do with favors from Papa Joe.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: Hunter is not at all connected to Joe Biden the

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Speaker 4: White House. That's been their their relentless talking point for years. Correct, Yes,

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Speaker 4: all right, I want to read you this paragraph from

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Speaker 4: Axios on July seventh, Behind the Curtain on bendable Biden

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Speaker 4: versus breaking point Dams quote. We're now in uncharted historic waters.

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Speaker 4: President Biden, backed by First Lady Jill Biden, and his

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Speaker 4: convicted son Hunter, who's serving as de facto gatekeeper to

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Speaker 4: his dad, says that nothing besides an act of God

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Speaker 4: will persuade him to quit his reelection campaign. So without

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Speaker 4: missing a beat, the corporate media can now suddenly admit

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Speaker 4: Hunter is quote de facto gatekeeper to his dad. This

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Speaker 4: is the same Hunter who about twelve minutes ago, their

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Speaker 4: walking storyline was no, no, no, no, Hunter's never met Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, they have nothing to do. He doesn't even

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Speaker 4: know where the White House is. No, no, no, no, pay

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Speaker 4: no attention to the man behind the curtain. This is

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Speaker 4: not about Joe Biden and his corruption.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the media. They'll get back in line soon,

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Speaker 1: don't worry.

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Speaker 3: I get stantaneously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I give him a week and a half, two weeks,

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Speaker 2: and then they'll start dialing back the full court press

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Speaker 2: to get Biden out, because they're then going to be

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Speaker 2: afraid maybe we can't get rid of him by when

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Speaker 2: we want to. So we got to pull back a

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Speaker 2: little bit. And I think going into these conventions coming up.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be very interesting to see how they even

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Speaker 2: deal with him if Joe Biden's still there at the

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Speaker 2: convention and he's quote still the guy. I also think this,

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Speaker 2: I gotta ask Ki Bona's question, do you think Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump is gonna have to, in essence, just put the

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Speaker 2: VP pick on hold until they figure out who they're

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Speaker 2: running against?

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Speaker 3: That is an awfully good question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Look, look away from you

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Speaker 1: and I go into the con Yeah. Yeah, we have

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Speaker 1: no idea who the VP candidate is, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure he does either.

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Speaker 3: Look, it is not a crazy question to ask.

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Speaker 4: The Trump campaign has said repeatedly that they'll announce the

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Speaker 4: VP by the convention, and you know, usually the VP

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Speaker 4: the president does. It is a tricky question because if

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Speaker 4: you don't know who you're running against, that is certainly

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Speaker 4: a real factor in trying to decide who VP is.

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Speaker 4: It would I have not looked at the legal questions

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Speaker 4: at how complicated it would be to dame a VP

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Speaker 4: after the convention, but it would not be insane for

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Speaker 4: Trump to delay that choice until he has some real

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Speaker 4: confidence who his opponent's going to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's where I'm sitting there just scratching my head.

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