1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 2: I never was interested in being, you know, a real 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: flag shred or I guess they should say, you know, hello, 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: I've been told that, I'm told that I'm doing a 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: special playing free Bird. 6 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 3: Now. 7 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: The guitar has saved my life many times, and music 8 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: has saved my life many times. 9 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Taking a Walk Podcast with Buzz Night. 10 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Buzz gets the inside story from musicians about their love 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: of music and connecting with their fans. Today, Buzz is 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: joined by Ricky Medlock, who's widely known as a founding 13 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: member of the band Blackfoot, and what most don't realize 14 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: is that Ricky is also not only a longtime member 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: of Leonard Skinner, but he was also a founder and 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: original drummer. His guitar playing and licks are legendary, and 17 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: his history in and out of music, including his family history, 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: are all fascinating. Here's Buzz Night with Ricky Medlock. 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 4: The Great Ricky Medlock, thanks for being on the Taking 20 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 4: a Walk Podcast. 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: It's a play to be with you. 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: Hey, let's take a walk. 23 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: Let's do it well. 24 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: We're going to talk about your new project in a 25 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 4: bit Never Run out of Road, which I know has 26 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 4: special meaning for you. But let's go back in time 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: and talk about starting out in music at the age 28 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 4: of three. 29 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: Yes, I've got actually I can probably pull them up, 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: which I would love to, but I've got pictures to 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: back this up. So my grandfather, Shorty Shorty Midline, who 32 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: has become pretty infamous, I guess we should say, with 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: trade train and you know his relation to Blackfoot and 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: his relation to Leonard Skidder, especially to Ronnie, and it's 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: an interesting deal. What happened was my grandparents adopted me 36 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: and you know, raised me as their son, which was 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 2: a great thing. And so there was music all in 38 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: our family on my mother's side of the my mother's 39 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: side of the family, which was shorting. I come from 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: a long line of family members who played instruments, incredibly, 41 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: sang great sang incredibly. You know my mother when she sang, 42 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: my biological mother, when she would sing, she sounded as good, 43 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: if not better than Patsy Clent. She had some opportunities 44 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: in Nashville to probably go, you know, further in her 45 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 2: life than she did, but somehow destiny just did not 46 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: work out, you know. So being it at a young age, 47 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: she met my biological father, who was full in it, 48 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: they had their little fling and she ended up having 49 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: me and so being a young girl at sixteen years old, 50 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: you know, back in the fifties like that, it was 51 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: pretty well frowned upon, you know, much not like it 52 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: is today. When my grandparents took me on, I was 53 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: already having struggles with help. I was born, according to 54 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: doctors then and not really sure what any doctor they 55 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: you know, would say today because they don't know what causes. 56 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: It can either be generic or it can be by birth. 57 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: But they highly suspected that when I was born, all 58 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: my mother's birthing fluids didn't come out, and it's been 59 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: identified as pulmonary fibrosis. You know. I had a serious 60 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: operation when I was nine and a half years old. 61 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: They took took a long part of the lung from me, 62 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: and I laid in the hospital for months, you know, 63 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: and the doctors at that time indicated to my parents 64 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: that I wouldn't live to see fourteen years old. Well, 65 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: here I am seventy four, and I guess they were. 66 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: Wrong, oled out right, damn straight. 67 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: I guess angels above have interceded in my life enough times, 68 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: many times. I guess that I'm here now. And I 69 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: really always felt like it deep down inside. When I 70 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: started in music, that's where I was supposed to be. 71 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: So what ended up happening was when I got to 72 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: be three years old. My grandfather saw that I was 73 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: taking an interest in stringed instruments, and at a young 74 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: age I would sit around in while his banjo was 75 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: laying there. He noticed that I would pluck on certain 76 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: strings and not just fram on it, beat on it 77 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, you know, so he bought me 78 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: a miniature banjo. Interestingly enough, he taught me out of play, 79 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: you know, a couple of songs with him, sing with him, 80 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: and believe it or not, I mean, you know, you 81 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: could say, well, at three years old, really, how much 82 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: can a kid sing? Really? But by ear I had 83 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: mulated what he did and what band members that he 84 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: had in Jacksonville, and you got us think about something. 85 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: My granddaddy, you know, was a was a musician in 86 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: and out of Nashville with a lot of your a 87 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: lot of your infamous I guess you should say, country 88 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: as far as older ones. Pretty interesting. He would come, 89 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: you know, from the road into Jacksonville and then he 90 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: would grab his band and play around the area. Had 91 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: been every Saturday night he would be on a TV 92 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: show called the Toby Dowty Show. So one Saturday what 93 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: he was on there? He goes on and ask Toby, 94 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: I taught my grandson how to play banjo and I 95 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: would like to bring him on the show. And he 96 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: and I do a song together, and Toby at that 97 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: point responds, well, how old is he? And he said, well, 98 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: he's three years old. He goes three years old. He 99 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: goes yeah, he said, I've gotten to see this. So 100 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,559 Speaker 2: the following week we show up at the TV station, 101 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: We go on, I go on with my granddaddy. We 102 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: played a song, and from that moment on the cards 103 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: and the letters came into the TV station. Now, the 104 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: TV station back then was WMBR, which now in Jacksonville 105 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: it's a CBS affiliate WJHT, and it was of CBS 106 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: Affilia back then. Well, cards of letters came in about 107 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: little Ricky and the next thing, you know, I stayed 108 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: on it for five years until I was eight years old. 109 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: I guess you should say, I guess that's where I 110 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: cut my teeth. 111 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 5: You know what I mean, that's an understatement, but god, 112 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 5: oh yeah, man, what did Shorty teach you that still 113 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 5: is with you to this day. 114 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: About life. 115 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: Wow, I can't say that I didn't learn some really 116 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: valuable lessons growing up. You know, in a music family. 117 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: Everything that I wanted to do, my parents allowed me 118 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: to do as far as music. Now, they didn't allow 119 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: me to go out be a hooligan, which I wasn't 120 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: at points in my life. But you know, we all 121 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: have to cut our teeth on doing something whatever. But 122 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, he instilled in me what the 123 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: meaning of music that comes from your heart to your boys, 124 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: or from your heart to your hands. It was a 125 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: soulfulness that I recognize that I recognized early in my life. 126 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: You know. 127 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: Wow, my Granddaddy's really taught me this. And he also 128 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: taught me he said, always keep your feet flat on 129 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: the ground. He said, because the bird doesn't fly so 130 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: high that someday it's going to come down and he goes. 131 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: You gotta be careful about all the other birds that 132 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: you pass on the way down. These were things that 133 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: I took the heart and understood and tried to live by. 134 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: I've tried to live by trying to be the best 135 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: I can to other people. I don't think that I'm 136 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: a I don't never consider myself an incredibly great guitarist. 137 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: I mean I consider myself I guess good if you 138 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: want to really get right out to it. I mean, 139 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: you know, and people come up to me and going, 140 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: my god, you're such a great, great guitarist, and I'm like, 141 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: I don't really see myself that way. You know, I 142 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: do think that i'd love to entertain. And recently, you know, 143 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: my manager asked me I was doing on the road 144 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: and stuff, and one day out of noewhere, I just said, 145 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: and I said this to my significant other, you know, 146 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: I said, I can tell everybody right now when I'm 147 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: really the happiest every day other than being around family, 148 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 2: I'm happy. I love being around family and stuff. But 149 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: the happiest is when I'm standing up on that stage 150 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: and I'm playing for everybody. That's because I go into 151 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: a different I go into a different world. I mean 152 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: it takes me. I go, it takes me away, and 153 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: I look out on the audience and I see all 154 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: these people having a great time and just really enjoying 155 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: themselves and forgetting their troubles and forgetting their blues. But 156 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 2: my granddaddy instilled in me some of the best values 157 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: I could have ever learned. He and my mother. I 158 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: think about that and I still carry it with me, 159 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm forever grateful to them. If 160 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: it wasn't for them, I wouldn't be sitting here in 161 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: front of you today. And I'm like so thankful that 162 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: I was raised the way I was raised and had 163 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: them to allow me to explore what naturally came to me, 164 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: you know, because back then you didn't have music teachers. 165 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: You didn't have these guitar schools that you could go 166 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: to and learn the scales and you know, learn how 167 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: to shred and everything. What I did was I listened 168 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: to all my guitar heroes. That's what I did. 169 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: So who are the five guitarists that impacted you the 170 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: most to this day? 171 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: Wow? And most of them and I have seen live 172 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: in my life. Jimmy Hendricks and Eric especially Eric Clapton, 173 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, and of course Eddie Van Halen. 174 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: But before that, my great great friend that I admire 175 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: and love, the guy I've known him for so many years, 176 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: Billy Gibbons. You know, also, I'm a very very good friend, 177 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 2: and I think that because of his because of his 178 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: craziness and the stance on the world and politics and 179 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: all that crap. You know what, you can never forget 180 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: about Ted NuGen. Ted NuGen is probably one of the 181 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: world's greatest guitar players. So with all of those I've said, 182 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: they all just really in my for me as a 183 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: guitar player, I had the utmost respect. They influenced me 184 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: in my life when I was figuring out licks in 185 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: my life being a league guitar player. Eric Clapton played 186 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: a big role in that because you know, I was 187 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: raised by my grandfather, who was basically a Delta blues guy, 188 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: you know, Delta blues country is bluegrass, you know environment 189 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: And when I would hear Clapton and Hendrickson, you know, 190 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: back whatever, but especially hendricks and Clapton and and Billy 191 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: Gibbons of course came from that same mall. But when 192 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: I would hear them guys play, I go, Wow, there's 193 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: a lick that I recognize, or there's a phrase that 194 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: I recognized, you know, the whole bit. I would sit 195 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: down with a record player and drop the speed down 196 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: to where I could hear exactly what was going on. 197 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: And the way I learned stuff was I would sing it, 198 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: I would learn to sing the lead or the basics 199 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: of it. I was all self taught by ear and 200 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: that's that's really how I ended up doing it. Then 201 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 2: from there took it, created my own thing, my own style. 202 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: You know, I never was interested in being, you know, 203 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: a real flash shred er. I guess they should say, 204 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: you know, hello, I've been told that. I'm told that 205 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 2: I'd do it, especially playing freebird. You know, the guitar 206 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: has saved my life many times, and music has saved 207 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: my life many times. And you know what, here I am, 208 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: like I said, I'm seventy four talking to you. I'm 209 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: loving every minute of it. You know. I just love 210 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: get up every morning and I just appreciate, you know, 211 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: and give thanks to every day that I hit the 212 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: floor and I'm able to do music. And I'm out 213 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: here right now, you know, creating new songs and going 214 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: to put out another song pretty soon for all the 215 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: right reasons, not for the wrong reason, but all the 216 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: right reasons. And you know what, man, I'm just having 217 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: to honestly, I'm having the time of my life and 218 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: I just I'm really thankful, and I think about my 219 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: folks and it was all because of them. 220 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 4: Take me back to when you saw Elvis Presley perform. 221 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 3: What was that like? 222 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: Well, you gotta let's let's get into the beginning of it. 223 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: Because my dad was very good friends with a lot 224 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: of your local pretty heavyweight musician. There was a lady 225 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: there by the name of may Axton, and may Axton 226 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: was the aunt of Boite Accident and she was a 227 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: very popular lady about town, lady around that businesswoman, and 228 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: she sang, and she was a she was, you know, 229 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: into music. She was well into music. And my parents 230 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: knew her. In fact, she babysit for me several several 231 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: times in my life. And so what happened was Elvis 232 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: was coming to town and may Axton, Tommy Durden, and 233 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: a guy named Glenn Reeves whom my dad knew. All 234 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: of them, they had written a song together and they 235 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: were able to get a meeting with Elvis at a 236 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: hotel back Ben in Jacksonville. And the way the story goes, 237 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: they get in to see Elvis and they play him 238 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: this song and the King is sitting there listening to 239 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: them go through this tune, and at the end of it, 240 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: he goes, I really liked that song. I want it, 241 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: and he goes the only way I'll do it. And 242 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: that's the way Elvis was. If everybody's read a little 243 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: bit of his you know, his history and stuff. He 244 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: always had to own fifty percent of the song. He 245 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: will always wanted fifty percent of the publisher at that time. 246 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: From my understanding is that the only two people that 247 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: was present that wrote the song was May Accident and 248 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: Tommy Durton. Glynn Reeves was not present, so they made 249 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: a dealal with Elvin. They cut Glenn Reeves out of 250 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: it and in comes Elvis Presley for half of it. 251 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: May I the Tommy Dirty and the song I'm talking 252 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: about is Heartbreak Hotel Wow. In the midst of this, 253 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: May talks to my parents, my dad Shorty, We got 254 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: in see Alvis, you know, and he loves our song 255 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: and gave us tickets and he says, I have four 256 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: tickets for his performance tonight at the Florida Theater. Well, 257 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: I love the Florida Theater and as a kid, I 258 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: used to go to movies there all the time, and 259 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: even right now. Skinner recorded two nights and filmed it 260 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 2: at the old Florida Theater here within the last, you 261 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: know what, six seven years my dad said, yeah, I'll 262 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: take them. Ricky'll go crazy when if he knows he 263 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: can get in to see she goes, will you take it? 264 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: So come that night, you know, my dad puts me 265 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: in the cry and said we're going somewhere spect and 266 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: him and myself and Mam we go down to the 267 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: Florida and I'm sitting on the floor about the third 268 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: or fourth row back and out comes the King. And 269 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: that is when the King was really the king. And 270 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: I just was I mean as a six year old, 271 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: almost seven year old kid who used to lay at 272 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 2: night with his radio under his head of his billow, 273 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: listening to the rock and roll station and listening to 274 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: Elvis over and over, buying his records. And it was 275 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: so cool on man, because back then you could go 276 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: to a place in Jacksonville called the Record Bar, and 277 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: the record bar had these private books that you could 278 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: go into and you could try records out. 279 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 5: Well. 280 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 2: I used to pitch a fit with my ma. I 281 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: not only wanted to buy one of them, I wanted 282 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: two of them, because I figure if one god damage, 283 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: I always had another. Right. So here I am sitting 284 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 2: at the Florida Theater. I'm looking on stage and the 285 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: guy is right in front of me. So when it 286 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: was over with that night, I mean, I'm looking as 287 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: a young kid, I'm seeing what effect this guy's got 288 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: on people. I mean, at that time, as a young boy, 289 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: it was hard to fab. So we left and we 290 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: get in our car and I'm between my mom and 291 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: my dad and Shorty looks over at me and he goes, well, son, 292 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: what did you think about that? You haven't said a word, 293 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: He said, what did you think about that? I said, Pop, 294 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: I said, Dad, that's what I want to do. I 295 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: want to do that, and I never veered from it 296 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: one iota. I stuck to my guns and I learned 297 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: everything that I could about music, about the business. I 298 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 2: still remember that. I still remember that night like it 299 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: was yesterday. 300 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 3: Great story, Yeah, tremendous story. Thank you for sharing that. 301 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: Oh sure, we'll be right back with more of the 302 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk Podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a 303 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: Walk Podcast. 304 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: So I think I want to make sure we set 305 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: the record straight here on your, uh, your career, specifically 306 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 4: with Leonard skinnerd because I think sometimes it is forgotten 307 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: about your your two runs that you had still have 308 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 4: with SKINNERD so yes, talk about that if you would, please. 309 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's been a lot of positive and 310 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: negative comments, a lot of thoughts about he was an 311 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: original guy. He wasn't an original guy. The band gets 312 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 2: inducted into the Rock Hall of Fame, and you know, 313 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: I'm there, and I knew that who were going in. 314 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 2: I knew that the band that had the guys in 315 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: the plane crash and Ed King and Bob Burns, all 316 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: these guys, Steve Gaines, and all of a sudden, I 317 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: was counted out the inquiry, you know, we inquired what 318 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: the hell you know? And it was said that my 319 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: tenure with the band didn't validate me being inducted with them. 320 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: I guess you can imagine my thoughts on this. I mean, 321 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: to be real, real, honest with him. For the Rock 322 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame to do that is like a severe 323 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: slap in my face. And I know that there's other 324 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: rock musicians out here that deserves to be in there, 325 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: way deserves to being there. I mean, we just talked 326 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: about Ted NuGen Well for whatever he is or he isn't. Hey, 327 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: come on, the guy sold you know, fifty sixty eighty 328 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: million records, played stadiums. I just really believe that there's 329 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: a certain bias when it comes to being inducted in there. 330 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: You got to realize it took skinnerd seven times being 331 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: nominated to be inducted in, and I think that because 332 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: of the outcry of the fans, the pressure, I think 333 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: is the reason why they finally got inducted in. But 334 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 2: for me not to go in with the band, Look, 335 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: people can sit there and say all they want to. 336 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: When I joined the band, I signed management, production and 337 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 2: publishing contracts with those guys under the heading Leonard Skinner's 338 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: members Roddy van Zant, Gary Rossington, Allen Collins, Larry Johnstrum 339 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: who went on to play with thirty eight, and myself. 340 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: I go to muscle shows. I wasn't a studio musician 341 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: like a lot of these geeks. You know, they get 342 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: on there that argue you know about I was just 343 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: a studio musician. Bullshit. You know. I was already out 344 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: playing live gigs with the guys and writing songs with 345 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: the guys, and a full band member. I had contracts 346 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: to the effect. All of a sudden, I'm sitting there 347 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: and everybody else goes, but I have to sit there 348 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: and watch it. And that was a serious slap in 349 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: my face. And I'll always feel that way no matter what. 350 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Yes, I understand. 351 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: I went up on the stage. Of course, you play 352 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: a couple of songs. And I got up and I 353 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: played Sweet Ome Alabama with the band and free Bird. 354 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: But let me tell you something that happened that was 355 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: so freaking cool. After free Bird, I'm coming off and 356 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: my guitar tech us there and I hand him the 357 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 2: guitar and there was a young gentleman there. He goes, 358 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: excuse me, Ricky. I said, yeah. He goes, there's somebody 359 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 2: over here, sitting out here at the table that wants 360 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: to shake your hand. And I went wo. He goes, 361 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: you'll see, and I'm like, okay, won who this is 362 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: going to be? So I start following him and lo 363 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: and be old. I'm walking around his table. Here's Ozzy 364 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: and the guys. And Ozzy stood up and shook my hand, 365 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, well, is this who wanted to shake 366 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: my hand? But the guy kept going, come on, Steing 367 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: was there, stood up, said shook my hand, said incredible job. 368 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: You know. 369 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: I kept down and this Paul gentleman stands up and 370 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: it's Brian May. And Brian May goes, I want to 371 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: shake my hands of the person that just played that 372 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 2: song and free Birn. He goes, Oh my god, he goes. 373 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 2: I went, you know what, don't worry about that. I 374 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: want to shake the hands that played all that great 375 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: queen leads is what I want to do. And he 376 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: got a big laugh. We got. We got such a 377 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: laugh out of it. I knew that they were out 378 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: on the road and he was going to be in 379 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: Las Vegas along with Paul Rogers, and I knew Paul, 380 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: and I got all of a friend of mine, and 381 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: I wanted to go. And I went out to Vegas 382 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: and a friend of mine, mister Paul Crook, had done 383 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: this this like I forget what they called it. It 384 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: was like a thing that they put together to celebrate 385 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 2: queen songs, and it traveled all over the world. Paul 386 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: played the part of Brian May in the band, and 387 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: he knew all those queen leeds and all that stuff. 388 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: You know. Well, Paul knew I was coming, and I said, 389 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: I want to be able to get in to say 390 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: hello to Brian. He goes, we can make that happen. 391 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: So after the show, I got in, I said, my 392 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: ELO's to Paul Rodgers and the next thing, you know, 393 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: in wants Brian May and I said hey, Brian. He 394 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 2: goes hey. I said, man, what an incredible show. I 395 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 2: just love your guitar playing in That little guitar you 396 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: play is just unbelievable. He goes something to the effect 397 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: I might have something for you, and I'm thinking, wow, 398 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: what could that be? You know? Looe be old. Not 399 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: long afterwards, my friend Paul Crook got hold on me 400 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: and said, I've got something for you from Brian, and 401 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, wow, what in the world could this be? 402 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 2: You know, we get to Vegas. He brings it to me. 403 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 2: It's the number three guitar out of his road case. 404 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: I got one of Brian's guitars. 405 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: Wow. 406 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: And I sit around and play it, you know, that 407 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: whole thing with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 408 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: At the end of the night, something good came out 409 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: of it. But to get you know, to get back 410 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: to the a little bit, I don't know what will 411 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: ever happen with it. You know. Recently, I guess I 412 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: went viral for giving the finger and all that stuff. 413 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: Like that. But you know, man, it's just out of frustration, 414 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: and it's out of frustration and anger sometime, because anybody 415 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: that gets rejected like that and turned down like that 416 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 2: and when you know you're supposed to be there, it's frustrating. 417 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: It's a slap of the face. And I'll tell you 418 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: one thing further. I've got it, and I'm getting ready, 419 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: probably to be honest with you, I'm getting ready to 420 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 2: post it up on a lot of social media. I've 421 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: got a video that lo and bee Hald Gary May 422 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 2: several years before is passing, and he's on video telling 423 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: he said, I've been seeing stuff all over social media 424 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: and all over the internet about Ricky, people arguing about 425 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: if Ricky, you know, wasn't the original band and should 426 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 2: be counted as an original member and this, and he goes, look, 427 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: we've always considered Ricky an original member. That's it, bottom line, 428 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: he was an original guy. For Gary to do that, man, 429 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: what is people going to argue against Gary Rossington? 430 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: Right? 431 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: And the whole bit is, man, we'll see what ends 432 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: up happening with it. I don't know. Maybe they'll put 433 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: me in there with with Ronnie, Gary and Allen and 434 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: Billy and Leon and you know what I mean, Yes, 435 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: I mean I've even heard that Artemis once said the 436 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: people that I deserve to be in there. You know 437 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: that I should have went in with him, you know. Yep, 438 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: you know what, man, that really was really was a 439 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: disappointing night for me, you know, but hey, it is 440 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: what it is. 441 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 3: I have to ask you. 442 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 4: I know you could have been on that plane, that 443 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 4: fateful plane. 444 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: Do you ever have survivor's guilt about that? 445 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: Well? I had taken my granddaddy Shorty over to see 446 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: Ronnie at their studio. I had talked to Ronnie. Ronnie says, 447 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: please bring Shorty over to let me see. So they 448 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: had a studio over on Riverside Avenue, and I took 449 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: my dad over to see Ronnie the guys. And we 450 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: got there and up pulls Ronnie and his little Mercedes 451 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: and he gets out. Man, he hugs my daddy, you know, 452 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: and he gave me a had shaken a hug. He said, 453 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: y'all come on in, man. So we go into the 454 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: studio part in the control room, and Ronnie had the 455 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: engineer to put up the new record, the Street Survivors Record. 456 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: And I'll never forget he put on that smell. We 457 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: listened to it, and my dad listened to it, you 458 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: know what I'm My dad had the most interesting look 459 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: on his face when he was listening to it. You know, 460 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: he's listening to the lyrics, and so am I and 461 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: I found it to be just incredible. And Tom David 462 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: had been the producer and you know, did a phenomenal job. 463 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: And we're getting ready to leave, saying or goodbyes, and 464 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: Ronnie says to me, Ricky, what are you doing for 465 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: you know, the next week or whatever? And I said nothing, really, 466 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: I don't have any gigs coming up anything. And he says, well, 467 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: won't you come out and ride with him? I said, why, 468 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: that sounds like a sounds like an interesting idea. So 469 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: we left, and my you know, my dad said, I 470 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: don't know if you should do that, you know, because 471 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: Ronny had said we have our own plane about two 472 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: days before they left. We end up getting two weeks 473 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: worth of shows Blackfoot, did you know, And so I 474 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: had to go and I called and said I couldn't go. Well, 475 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: I just found out recently Johnny was supposed to go. 476 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: I did not know that, so it would have been 477 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: me and Johnny, Wow, well, I got these shows. Johnny's 478 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: parents refused to let him go and made him go 479 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: to school. He was what sixteen, I think it was 480 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: from seventeen. I get these shows with the bend. I 481 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 2: can't go. And here's the interesting part. On that day 482 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: we were pulling into Columbia, South Carolina as SKINNERD was 483 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: leaving Greenville. That's how close it was. That night, I'm 484 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: playing a show and some joker runs up on the 485 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: side of the stage and I'm changing guitars. I heard 486 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: the guy go, a man, didn't you play it Skuthnor. 487 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah. He said, well, your boys just 488 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: had a playing crug and I just thought he was 489 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: being a smart ash and I said, man, said, we 490 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: can get this guy out of here. You know, at 491 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: the end of the show, my guitar guy says, Ricky, 492 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: do you know what the guy was staying with the 493 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: god and said Jay, he goes it's true. I went, 494 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: oh my god. I beat it back to the jail 495 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: with the band and I get back there and the 496 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: first thing I did was, of course, I called home. 497 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: And back then, you know, you didn't have cell phones. 498 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: You just had phones. I call home and the phone 499 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: didn't even ring once, and my old man picked it 500 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: up and I said, Pop, please tell me it's not true. 501 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: He goes it is, he said, And they just announced 502 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: that Ronnie was one of the casualties. And I just 503 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: was blown away. Thought to myself at the time, maybe 504 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: if I been there, I could have said something or 505 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: done something whatever to keep it from doing happening what happened. 506 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: And I think everybody that survived kind of thought that, 507 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: and I think even Johnny probably thought it well. Of course, 508 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: I've never really talked to Johnny about those days, you know, 509 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: because I mean, my god, the boys lived. You enough 510 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: tragedies in his life. When I got back with Leonard 511 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: Skinner in ninety six, we're doing our first European run together. 512 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: We played London that night, had a grade turnout at 513 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: Hammersmith Odeon, great run, sold out shows. The band is 514 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: just stomping. I get on the bus and over there 515 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: he had those double decker buses at the front lounge. 516 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: I had a great big picture window you could sit 517 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: back man and the bunks roll behind us. I get 518 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: on the bus and Gary is here, Dale is here, 519 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: his wife, and I sat down next to it. All 520 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 2: of a sudden, he slaps me on and on and 521 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: he said, hey, bro, where were you? And I went, 522 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 2: I was at the hotel. He goes, no, no, no, no, no, 523 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: I didn't want I'm talking about when it was on 524 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: the anniversary of that day. He goes, no, you know 525 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: what I mean? Where were you? I said, Oh, as 526 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 2: we pulling into Columbia, South Carolina, you guys were pulling 527 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 2: out a grip And I said, you know, Gary, it's 528 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: often stayed with me. If I'd have been there, you know, 529 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 2: maybe I could have said something or done something to 530 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 2: change whatever. He goes, you know what, Ricky, it wasn't 531 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: meant for you to be there, then it's meant for 532 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: you to be here now. And you know what, that 533 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 2: settled everything in my mind from then on, you know. 534 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 3: Yes completely. 535 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 4: What was it like being in the band Fresh Garbage 536 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 4: and then having a and I use this term with 537 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 4: air quotes, residency at a topless bar. 538 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 2: And you know what, it's so funny that you're asking 539 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: me this because I just explained this. We played six 540 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: days a week, night after night. Man, we only got 541 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 2: a day off. We played six nights a week, five 542 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 2: sets a night. And I mean, these girls are by 543 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 2: the stage and around, and you got so numb to it. 544 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: I mean, once if you see one titty, you've seen 545 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 2: them all, you know what I mean. So at first 546 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: it was interesting, okay, because I was nineteen years old, 547 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 2: and you know why, I'm in a club where you know, 548 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 2: they're dancing top lessen of course my mind she was like, 549 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 2: oh my god, there goes the neighborhood. It was interesting. 550 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you when it was really interesting. So 551 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: in Gainsball they always had. This was in Gainsville, Floria, 552 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 2: so you got the University of Florida there. During the week, 553 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: it was stragglers in, you know. But boy, on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, 554 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: I mean it was full on college, college guys, college goals, 555 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 2: you know, the little bit and tony old. Thursday nights 556 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: they had what is called the wet t Shirt contest. 557 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god. This is when college girls or girls 558 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: around Gainesville area, a Lochwood County whatever, would come out 559 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 2: and enter the contest and they would soak them down 560 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 2: and then they would get up and do their thing 561 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 2: and dance, and then whoever took the best applause they 562 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: got the pride. And I have seen some wild up. 563 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: I mean, the competition was owned way and those girls 564 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 2: come out there open that their lady boobs were better 565 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 2: than the other and no kick against women, trust me, please. 566 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 2: It was something for a young young guy of nineteen 567 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 2: to be standing there every night staring at him. But 568 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 2: you got numb to it. You got to be a 569 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 2: you know, I got to be an every night thing 570 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 2: till finally you just didn't even look. So anyway, there 571 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 2: you go. 572 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, let's talk about never run out of Road, 573 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 4: the song and why it's important to have people listen 574 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 4: to this and the cause involved that you want to highlight. 575 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 2: As most people know, I am Native Partnate, I shouldn't, 576 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 2: but I'm not full of Native. I'll never professed to 577 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 2: be full of Native. My father, my grandparents always told 578 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 2: me who he was, what he was was full you know. 579 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 2: He was Lakota. And my mother, I've got pictures of 580 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 2: her as a young girl with my grandmother, my grandmother 581 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: will it was Cherokee Creek and I was pretty cool 582 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: man that me and you know, all of this Native 583 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 2: blood in me, you know. Here Quite a few years 584 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 2: ago I discovered what has been happening probably for a 585 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 2: hundred years or better, and that is there are more 586 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 2: Indigenous women, older women, middle aged women, younger women, and 587 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 2: or children that go missing. They found them deceased, or 588 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 2: they'd never found them at all. I started getting interested 589 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 2: in this missing and murdered Indigenous woman, and I found 590 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 2: it heartbreaking because when a crime is committed on a reservation, 591 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 2: actually that land is sovereign land, Okay, So when a 592 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 2: crime is committed, only the federal government can investigate it. 593 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 2: If a homicide is done, only the federal government can 594 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 2: investigate a Native or an Indigenous woman is found deceased 595 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 2: or is gone or whatever, they might investigate it maybe, 596 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: but you know what, not like the rest of society. 597 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: I got really interested in this thing. Ben at Skinner, 598 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: I've been introduced to a lot of incredibly beautiful Native 599 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 2: people that has become a part of my life. West 600 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: Study has become a really good friend of mine. Gil Birmingham, 601 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 2: you know, Graham Green, on and on and on it. 602 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 2: A guy named Braveheart has become a great friend of mine. 603 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 2: And all of these people are very knowledgeable and very 604 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 2: aware of all this. Of course, you know, some of 605 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 2: the worst has happened up in Montana at the Blackfeet, 606 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 2: the Blackfeet Indian Reservation. I got my cousin Jason out 607 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 2: in Oklahoma. He was a cop and had investigated had 608 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 2: been called to a scene where, you know, a thirty 609 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: something year old woman they found or deceased in a ditch. 610 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 2: So I've been interested in this to the point of 611 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 2: where I got in with some people to do to 612 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: host the narrative show about the MMIW who was going 613 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 2: to be called women erased, and somehow they started the 614 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: project and the next thing I know, some other people 615 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 2: came into it and erased me out of it, which 616 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 2: was to me was another slap in the face. But okay, 617 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 2: what happened when I when when Mark Warpole and I, 618 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 2: which he had been in Blackfoot years before, we had 619 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 2: been friends ever since the real late eighties. When he 620 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,280 Speaker 2: and I got back together, I had this wild idea 621 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 2: one day sitting in my house here that when skinnered 622 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 2: would be off the road and take time off. I 623 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 2: wanted to play. I'm a player. I just love going 624 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,479 Speaker 2: out and I love playing music, and so I called. 625 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: I knew Mark had a band, and I said, Mark, 626 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 2: what if I interjected myself in your band? And the 627 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 2: name of his band is called them pesky kids. I said, 628 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 2: what if I interjected myself into it and maybe we 629 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 2: write some tunes, maybe put something out, because you always 630 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,240 Speaker 2: need something really to promote, to go out and play, 631 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 2: to make you know, to make sure that you draw 632 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 2: a crowd and you play and you make the promoter 633 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,959 Speaker 2: money and you know the whole bit. So he came 634 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 2: down here to my studio here and we sat and 635 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 2: listened to all these songs that I had, and we 636 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 2: all of a sudden came across this one tune, never 637 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: run out of Road. Years before my great friend and 638 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 2: you just mentioned him while ago, Charlie Starr from BlackBerry Smoke. 639 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 2: He and I would throw ideas back and forth, and 640 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 2: this was an idea we came up with that we 641 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 2: started writing on. When I threw it to him, he 642 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 2: would throw it back to me and we'd come up 643 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 2: with the lyrics and there he was. And it was 644 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 2: kind of a reflection of both my life and his life, 645 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 2: because that's a musician. You're touring, touring, touring, you never 646 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 2: run out of road. Mark and I would to work 647 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 2: on it. We did some changes, and Mark had had 648 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 2: some changes, and we we record it and a guy 649 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 2: by the name of Scott Herold, the owner CEO of 650 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 2: Rock the Calls Record, which is distributed by a subsidiary 651 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 2: of Sony. Scott comes in and says, you know, look here, 652 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 2: I'd love to take the song, but my agreement is 653 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 2: with the artist is that when you when we do 654 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 2: a song, you have to agree to donate the proceeds 655 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 2: or of the proceeds to your favorite charity. So I 656 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 2: was trying to figure out who to donate to, who 657 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 2: to put in there a link on the websites and 658 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 2: a link you know, everywhere on YouTube or whatever of 659 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 2: who to donate to for people to come to it. 660 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 2: And so I called my friend native actor, great Native actor. 661 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 2: You might be familiar with him, but you'll know who 662 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. His name is Gil Birmingham and Gil 663 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 2: plays tribal chairman on Yellowstone. I call up Gil. Gil's 664 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 2: an incredibly talented actor. People will remember him from the 665 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 2: Twilight series. He played the father of the Wolves of 666 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 2: the were Wolves. He's always in the wheelchair. He did 667 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 2: a movie with Jeremy Renner which he played the father 668 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 2: of what we're talking about right now, of a missing 669 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 2: and murdered Indigenous daughter, and it was heartbreaking. He did 670 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 2: such an incredible job. Well, I call up Gil and 671 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 2: I said, Gil, this is what I'm getting ready to do. 672 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 2: But I need a good charitable organization that's trustworthy, that 673 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,879 Speaker 2: I know that the money's going to be handled right 674 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 2: and goes to the right people and gets in the 675 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 2: right hands. He said, you know what, Ricky And I 676 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 2: told Gil. I said, Gil, I know you. I did 677 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 2: one of your episodes in the third season about this, 678 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 2: just this subject. He said, you know what, let me 679 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: call Taylor. Taylor sharedan I'll get all the Taylor and 680 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 2: find out who he donated to. Just about it. I said, okay. 681 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,399 Speaker 2: A couple of days later, you know calls me said 682 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 2: I've talked to Taylor, and Taylor said, the National Indigenous 683 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 2: Women's Resource Center is who he donates to. And he goes, Ricky, 684 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 2: they're very reputable, they're very straight up. So we put 685 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 2: the record out and on my website probably I think 686 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 2: on YouTube and some of the other platforms. If you 687 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,760 Speaker 2: care to donate for the Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women movement, 688 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 2: the link is there for the National Indigenous Women Resource Center. Also, 689 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 2: there's another one that I'm highly involved with, which is 690 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 2: called the Dream Catcher's Charitable fun They're another Indian organization 691 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 2: and the National Save the Wolves Foundation for the North 692 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 2: American wolf I'm big into animals, and so there you go. 693 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: That's why I did it. 694 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 3: Congratulations on it, and really. 695 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate it. You know something, man, I know 696 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 2: that I've just tried to be in some small way 697 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 2: trying to give back and trying to bring awareness to 698 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 2: a serious primate. Think about this. Think about the fact 699 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 2: that Native Americans make up less than ten percent of 700 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 2: the population, and out of that ten percent, forty percent 701 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 2: of the Native women end up missing or murder. That 702 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 2: is a huge number. I'm just trying to bring awareness. 703 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm not beating the drum for myself, the drum for them, 704 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 705 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, well put and. 706 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 2: I'm going to you know what, I'm going to keep 707 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 2: on doing this and donating. Every song I've put out 708 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 2: is going to go the same place. 709 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 3: Ricky, keep on keeping on. 710 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 4: Thanks for being on taking a walk and sharing your 711 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 4: journey and your continued journey and. 712 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 3: Your good work. And it's been a pleasure. I really 713 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 3: appreciate it. 714 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 2: Hey, thank you. I've honored to him sharing this moment 715 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 2: with you and you take good care, come see us. 716 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 3: You got it, my friend. 717 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 718 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: Walk podcast. 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