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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number one hundred and twenty six. Man

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Speaker 1: didn't realize we can get that far on the show.

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Speaker 1: It is Battle and today we have an amazing show

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Speaker 1: for you. And I've always wanted to say this just

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Speaker 1: because it's so cool, but sorry about your damn luck yep.

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Speaker 1: On the show today we have one half of the

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Speaker 1: NWA World Tag Team Champions, the Cowboy James Storm, drops

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Speaker 1: by to talk about all things wrestling. We dive into

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Speaker 1: his beginnings with the USWA, signing with WCW, of course,

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Speaker 1: being with TNA and Impact for almost fifteen years, becoming

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Speaker 1: world champ, his brief st NXT, and of course we

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Speaker 1: talk about the recent rebirth of NWA. Also, we get

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Speaker 1: him to address some comments that one Eric Bischoff recently

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Speaker 1: made about him. This is a conversation you don't want

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Speaker 1: to miss. So sit back, grab some beer and enjoy

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Speaker 1: Episode one twenty six with Cowboy James Storm, which, by

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Speaker 2: But let's get into this.

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Speaker 1: James Storm on the show now.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the battle Ground Podcast. This

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Speaker 3: is a podcast all about professional wrestling. Joined Battle and

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Speaker 3: Eli as a breakdown what's going on in the world

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Speaker 3: of professional wrestling with special guests, including some of your

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Speaker 3: favorite wrestling superstars. You never know who's gonna stop by

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Speaker 3: now making their way to the microphone. Give it up

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Speaker 3: for the greatest podcast team in the world, Battle and Eli.

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Speaker 1: You know this is a fun time for wrestling fans.

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Speaker 1: You got a lot of options going on. You've got NWA,

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Speaker 1: which is we're big fans of and a.

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Speaker 2: Guy that I grew up watching.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say grow up because that makes

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Speaker 1: me sound like as a child, but I was a

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Speaker 1: teenager when I first saw this guy debut at the Fairgrounds, uh,

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Speaker 1: and I've been a fan of him ever since. So

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Speaker 1: of course it's pretty awesome we get to have him

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Speaker 1: on the show. The cowboy James Storm's on the show

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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 2: James, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Man? Not much maino, same old, same old paying bills

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Speaker 4: drinking beer.

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Speaker 5: That sounds just like us over here, man, I mean,

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Speaker 5: one of those activities is fun.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, my ima, she always laughs at but she goes,

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Speaker 4: you know, when you were little, all you want to

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Speaker 4: do is run around in the underwear. She goes, Now

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Speaker 4: that you're a grown man, all you do is run

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Speaker 4: around in the underwear.

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Speaker 5: Right, we'll make you a moment, right and make it

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Speaker 5: even better. You get paid for that.

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Speaker 4: I know, right, who what idiot would pay me just

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Speaker 4: under her? But hey, I can missed him too, so

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Speaker 4: I'll keep doing it.

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Speaker 1: There you go, and you know, looking at your career,

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Speaker 1: you've had a hell of a career and it's still

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Speaker 1: going up there, and you know, we kind of want

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Speaker 1: to just go back to the beginning real quick and

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Speaker 1: just do a little softball thing. You know, you're an

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Speaker 1: amateur wrestler in high school. You also play basketball. When

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Speaker 1: did you make the decision to move into pro wrestling?

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Speaker 1: Who did you train with? And had you always been

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Speaker 1: a pro wrestling fan?

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Speaker 4: Well, I, uh, you know, I decided to go into

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Speaker 5: Not a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not hardly anyone anywhere left that six foot

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Speaker 4: one in the NBA, you know. Uh, but uh, it

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Speaker 4: was just one of those things. Uh. You know, my

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Speaker 4: was I was working at Moody's Tire in Franklin, Tennessee,

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Speaker 4: and uh, I came home and I've seen a commercial

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Speaker 4: for USWA Wrestling. Oh yeah, yeah. It was like, uh,

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Speaker 5: Really, I'm I'm from Jackson, so my you know, early

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Speaker 5: new Jack he when we talked to him, he wrestled

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: That's That's what I's what I did.

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Speaker 4: You No one knows how many guys that you know

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Speaker 4: Oh you know. I mean you even have Taker the Rock,

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Speaker 5: All Randy Savage Hogan was there in the early eighties.

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Speaker 5: beat him at the Coliseum. I mean most people don't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was. It was really cool because I

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Speaker 4: compound fracture. The bone was out of the skin. I

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Speaker 4: mean it was and I was out for a whole year.

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Speaker 5: Were you lifting weights or like what what happened?

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Speaker 4: No? I was going on. I was training, uh you know,

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Speaker 4: like the clothesline, you know, flip bump, you know, and

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Speaker 4: instead of just kind of just hitting me and let

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Speaker 4: down a little bit and I just came right down

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Speaker 4: at him. I was like, I don't think this is

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Speaker 4: he was training to be a manager. He took me

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Speaker 4: and I was like, I said, I was out for

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Speaker 4: a whole year, so.

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Speaker 1: I will I'll never forget the time I went to

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Speaker 1: a wrestling match in Wolfie d Uh scared my cousin

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Speaker 2: It's just it's it's a it's.

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Speaker 1: A character, Like I didn't mean to scare you, and

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Speaker 2: Even started, and I felt so bad for him, but

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Speaker 2: it was a great moment.

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Speaker 4: Like WHOOPI is one of those guys who don't get

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Speaker 4: when he was you know with the Nation of Domination

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Speaker 4: and obnoxious. You know, I was like, a shut up please,

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Speaker 4: but whoop be you know. Uh, even you know five

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Speaker 4: six years ago, like I was wrestling on the Independence

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Speaker 4: and man, it was just it was just so much

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Speaker 4: fun wrestling him, you know, just because he knew exactly

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Speaker 4: You didn't have to worry about it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: You go to some independent shows and sometimes you're just like,

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Speaker 4: I don't know about you know, working this guy, or

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Speaker 4: because you don't know, you don't know what you're getting

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Speaker 4: into so many times. But you know, with Wolfe, I

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Speaker 4: his job, and he'd do it well. You know, he

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Speaker 4: when him and Brian Lee were the New Church. I

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Speaker 4: mean he's like, oh, I trade you so I could

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Speaker 4: beat you up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's it's a fair.

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Speaker 4: Game, you know. And he would always he had this

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Speaker 4: Then he get on my chest and he would just

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Speaker 5: So he had real like shit kickers on then.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. But I mean I always say he's kind of

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Speaker 4: he's kind of like Brett Hard, Like he'd beat you up,

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Speaker 4: it's going to be a little rough, and that's how

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Speaker 4: and that's what's so good about wrestlings. Has so much

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I mean there's got to be like it's

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Speaker 5: I mean, he trained you. So that's got to be

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Speaker 4: So, I mean so many times, you know, I grew up,

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Speaker 4: just it was just so much fun and so relaxed

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Speaker 4: because then you knew how to dictate the crowd. You know. Now,

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Speaker 4: if you call everything in the back and you go

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Speaker 4: haven't much said to another word, so many guys are

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard to change it.

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Speaker 4: I remember the first time I went to w CW

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Speaker 4: and I was wrestling uh Chavo and a sixth man

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Speaker 4: and Uh they came on and they was telling me

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Speaker 4: all these spots and I looked at him and said, man,

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Speaker 4: I gotta remember all this shit was like, Man, I'm

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Speaker 4: like I used to like remembering all this time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that was actually a good segue. So if

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Speaker 5: you uh, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think he's got these questions before.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say with with with battle being on

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Speaker 5: the radio, we always look for those segus like well

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Speaker 5: speaking of you know, but yeah, So the next question

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Speaker 4: drinking that beer, you can be all out of money.

436
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,159
Speaker 4: And I was like whoa wait, wait what And I

437
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 4: was like, man, I was like, that'd be a good

438
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 4: tag team nin' beer money and uh, you know, so

439
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 4: so many of the wrestlers. Great ideas come when they're drunk,

440
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 4: but the problem is they don't remember the next day.

441
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 4: But for some reason, man, it keeps sticking with me.

442
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 4: And then me and Bobby talked like the next day

443
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 4: at TV and he's like, man, he goes, let's see

444
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 4: if we can pitch it. You know, he was supposed

445
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 4: to be from Wall Street and uh, you know, I

446
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 4: was the beer drinker from Tennessee and all this, and

447
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 4: we went and just and Dutchy goes, why don't I

448
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 4: like it? He goes, I doubt if you know, the

449
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 4: management will like it. You know how they are blah

450
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,919
Speaker 4: blah blah, like, well, it just pitch it. And so

451
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,199
Speaker 4: they didn't really like it at the beginning, like they

452
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 4: kep calling us rooting storm, you know. And I was

453
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 4: just like, man, and so I went to the seamsterss

454
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 4: lady and I just got a bought some just plain

455
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 4: white T shirts and I had her just iron own

456
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 4: this makeshift. It just said beer money, said putt tag

457
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 4: team belts here and had an arrow point down that's

458
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 4: all it's And we started wearing it out and like

459
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 4: I gave it to Bobby just in a promo. They

460
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 4: didn't even know I was doing it. Like I gave

461
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 4: it to him in a promo and he was like,

462
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 4: he man, it looks like you made these yourself. I

463
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 4: was like, how could you take? I was like, don't worry.

464
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 4: Cut your sleeves out so you look big.

465
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: You still have these shirts that you wore that night, or.

466
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 4: Actually I think I may still have mine somewhere, but

467
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 4: I uh. And then I remember after that because Mike

468
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 4: today came pushing for us and Uh to be beer

469
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 4: money and he said it on the TV that they

470
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 4: and and then after that it just we just started

471
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 4: being beer money like it was just it was just

472
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 4: one of those things that happened. Then me and Bobby,

473
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 4: you know, we were supposed to be the heels, and

474
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 4: we were just like, we got to come up with

475
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 4: something so stupid that the people will just bow us.

476
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 4: You know, they're just ship all over as soon as

477
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 4: we do it. And that's why we came up with

478
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 4: the beer money souplex. They would go, oh beer and

479
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 4: and then at first it worked, they were booting us,

480
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 4: but then it got over and then Dutch goes, well,

481
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 4: he goes, you done message, did your job so well?

482
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 4: Now we got cases.

483
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 5: Oh man, we had him on the show and guy,

484
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 5: he's a talker, Jesus, the best listen.

485
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: Just just the stories that he told was just I

486
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,719
Speaker 1: was just blown away by some stuff.

487
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 4: We were in Puerto Rico and he was my manager

488
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 4: and uh, and so go out and man, it's we

489
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 4: were like this in this little little arena in Puerto

490
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 4: Rico and it's like it feels like it's one hundred

491
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 4: and twenty degrees in there. So me and the guy,

492
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: I mean, we're already twenty minutes into the match, and

493
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 4: I can hear Dutch on that side going, hurry the

494
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 4: f up? What are you doing? By the hour? He goes,

495
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 4: if you don't hit him with the finisher, I'm gonna

496
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 4: ring the damn bell myself. And he goes, Man, he goes,

497
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 4: let me tell you something. He goes, if you see

498
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 4: me out there, look like I'm about to pass out,

499
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 4: get out of the ring. And he had it was

500
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 4: so weird because he had black shoes on, white socks

501
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 4: and orange shorts. It was what, Yeah, it was the

502
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 4: most ridiculous outfit ever seen in my life.

503
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 5: That's funny. Well, let's let me let we'll ask you this.

504
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 5: This is kind of a uh broad but specific question.

505
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 5: You know, you may need to take a couple of

506
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 5: minutes to think about it, and no big deal. During

507
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 5: your tenures with TNA Slash Impact, what do you think

508
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 5: the company did well and maybe they didn't get enough

509
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 5: credit for you know, we were kind of talking about

510
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 5: that here just a couple of minutes ago. And then

511
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 5: what do you think that maybe they did poorly that

512
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 5: they did deserve like the criticism that they got for it.

513
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 4: Uh, you know what I think they did. I think

514
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 4: that he did good with letting the guys kind of

515
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 4: give ideas, you know, and uh, they were always good

516
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 4: about that because I always give credit to Vince Russo,

517
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: who you know, people say whatever they want to say

518
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 4: about him. But like he he had enough belief in

519
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 4: me to go out and just promo my own because

520
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 4: I remember he had some stuff written for me. I

521
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: just like, man, like, like, you know, you want me

522
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: to be me and be this red in egg, but

523
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 4: we don't save Bukaroo and all this. And I told him,

524
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 4: I said, man, I said, just once, can I go

525
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: out there and just kind of promo myself and you know, hey,

526
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 4: it doesn't work, man, I'll come back here and I'll

527
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 4: say it doesn't work, and I'll do whatever you need.

528
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 4: And he goes, okay, and I went out there and

529
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 4: just killed man. And ever since then he goes, he goes, no,

530
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: he goes, you just do I'll just give you bullet

531
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 4: points and you do your own promo. So I was like,

532
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 4: oh and and and so many guys were able to

533
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 4: go to you know, creative and kind of just pitch

534
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 4: ideas and they would listen to them, and you know,

535
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 4: creatives still had what they wanted to do, but you

536
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 4: know they would meet the talent halfway because basically, if

537
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 4: a talent don't believe in what he's doing, the crowd's

538
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 4: not gonna believe what the talent's doing either. You know.

539
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 4: That's how always look at it. And uh, I always

540
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 4: I always just feel like teenage just missed the boat.

541
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 4: Really just own like uh, just advertising and just getting

542
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 4: the word out easy, the easy way. You know, for

543
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 4: so long, so many guys like begged them to get

544
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 4: a truck, you know, when they were hauling the ring

545
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 4: that this hash it was wrapped or something, you know,

546
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 4: with guy's picture on us. You know, it's free advertising, right,

547
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 4: But they never would they would just rent a U

548
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 4: haul truck and they would just say you haul on

549
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 4: the side and they would have like this makeshift notebook

550
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 4: paper with tape all over to sayd TNA payment on

551
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 4: the door.

552
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 5: I'm just like, man, I mean put put you know,

553
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 5: put Sting's face on it and say, you know, impact

554
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 5: Friday Nights on its spike or whatever. I mean, it's

555
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 5: just a it's just a rolling commercial.

556
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I was like, man, like that's money invested.

557
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 4: Like take take money and buy a truck and invest it.

558
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: Like I know, it's up keeping all this, but it's

559
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: still good advertising, you know. And I look at like

560
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 4: the first thing, you know, aw did they went out

561
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 4: They got semis with you know in its route you know,

562
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,239
Speaker 4: uh huh everything. And it's and because we would go

563
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 4: to arenas and afterwards we'd go out to eat and

564
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 4: stuff and people would know who we are, but they

565
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 4: had no clue that we were even in town, you know,

566
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 4: and we're like literally right across the street from where

567
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 4: we performed, and it was just it would just get

568
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 4: so like heartening, just like man, like we're busting our

569
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 4: ass to do all this stuff, man, and like if

570
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: people don't know that we're here. Man, you can have

571
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 4: everybody on the card here and it's not going to matter,

572
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 4: you know. And I remember I remember in Pypro, Kentucky,

573
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 4: there's a show that we did and man, we it

574
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 4: was like three thousand people that we It was sold

575
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 4: out this little arena on this college. And then I

576
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 4: think like two or three years later we go back,

577
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 4: but they didn't advertise at all, and then there was

578
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: like seven hundred people there. Man. You know, it's just

579
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: one of those things. And even like the over tour

580
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: season stuff that we did, like when we first started

581
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 4: going over and man, they were just you know, we

582
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 4: were selling out quick, you know. But then you know,

583
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: fast forward to four or five years later, I think

584
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: that it got comfortable, you know, thinking that hey, we're

585
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 4: big enough now, we don't have to worry about advertising,

586
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 4: you know, and it just got to the point where

587
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 4: like you just see the crowd going down and down,

588
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 4: and man, it just you know, it takes a toll

589
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 4: on the workers as well, man, because we're like, man,

590
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 4: like we're b out here busting our ass, like somebody

591
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 4: else needs to get their ass and gear right.

592
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: And that's you know, we we had Jeff On not

593
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: too long ago, we kind of talked about that, and

594
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: he said that was kind of like you could kind

595
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: of see when he left and when new people started

596
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: coming in. You could see when the products started going

597
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: down once you know, everybody else started coming in.

598
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: Too many cooks in.

599
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 4: The kitchen exactly. And it was I always say, like,

600
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 4: you know, people say what they want to say about Jeff,

601
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: but man, he he was a businessman. He's a he's

602
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 4: a worker too. You know, he's one of the boys.

603
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 4: He's been he's been the family, I mean in wrestling forever.

604
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: You know, his family, his dad, his grandmother, everybody you know,

605
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: and he knows how it needs to be done, you know,

606
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 4: like you still need to go out and hit all

607
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 4: these little you know, stores and put flowers up and

608
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 4: everything else. You know. Uh so so you know, because

609
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 4: everybody's not looking at the internet for wrestling all the time.

610
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: But if you know, here's a gas station, you see

611
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 4: a flyer up, like, oh damn, TNA's coming to town,

612
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 4: you know, I would say to send and he he

613
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: always wanted to send guys like a week before or

614
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: two weeks before to the town that we were going

615
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 4: to just to do radio or something, saying hey, tickets

616
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 4: go and sell get them here you can also meet

617
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 4: some and so here, you know, And it's just one

618
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: of those things, man, Like you know, and I always

619
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 4: thought TNA was the best. You know, people say what

620
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 4: they want to say. But when Jeff was was running

621
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 4: the show.

622
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was the thing. Is like when it

623
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: was when it was at the Fairgrounds every Wednesday night.

624
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: I remember that what would happen was is they would

625
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: have their thing, and then as you were leaving, I

626
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: guess the promo street team was out there handing out

627
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: the tickets for next Wednesday show, because I remember, I

628
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: still have like majority of those little bitty, you know,

629
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: business card looking tickets that had like the roster on

630
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: it's like TNA tapings Live Wednesday Night.

631
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah.

632
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: And that was what they got you to come back

633
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: next week. And the promo team was out there every

634
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: night after the event handing you those tickets to come

635
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: back the following Wednesday.

636
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 4: Yeah. And like I said, and it was one of

637
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 4: those things where you know, like you said, you had

638
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: to wait too many cooks in the kitchen, and you

639
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 4: know when all these other cooks started coming in, man,

640
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: even the the guys that were there, they was just

641
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 4: you know, everybody was just going crazy kind of Uh.

642
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 4: Jeff was the kind of person like like if if

643
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 4: something was going on, he was mad enough to come

644
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 4: say something to you, he wouldn't just let ship carry

645
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: carry out and you know, you just do it and

646
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 4: all this other stuff whatever. Like he'd come to you

647
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 4: and say, look, no, I need it this way, you know.

648
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: And uh. And you know, once he left, that kind

649
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: of that with him as well.

650
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 5: Right, do you think that it benefited with him or

651
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 5: with him being in charge because of his wrestling background,

652
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 5: or because like I said, you know, he knows the boys.

653
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: One of the boys like you you got to tell

654
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: us exactly what you want. Because you don't tell wrestlers

655
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: exactly what you want, they're gonna be like, oh, well

656
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 4: I can go do this too, you know. And and

657
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: I just remember and I remember uh coming back uh

658
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 4: one time three the curtain. We were in Nashville doing

659
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: a pay per view and we were like ten eight nine,

660
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: ten seconds from going dark or whatever, and I can

661
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 4: basically hear him in the referees earpiece tell him to

662
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: go the f home. So I remember telling Chase, I said, oh,

663
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 4: feed up superkick. People asked me the way, Well, why

664
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 4: don't you do superkick as a finisher? Number one, because

665
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: that's the only move I can really do when I'm drunk.

666
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 4: Number two, because I need to go home real quick,

667
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 4: I say, oh, feed up, eat superkick. That's all I

668
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: got to do. I don't have to worry about trying

669
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 4: to go in some big spot or whatever. And I

670
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: remember getting to the back and he said, look, he said,

671
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: he said, if you're gonna make it far in this business,

672
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 4: you need to learn that time is money and you

673
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: need to stay exactly on your time. I was like, you, sir, man.

674
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: One one kind of question, and this is an interesting

675
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: one that I've kind of we asked several people that

676
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: have wrestled in this do you love or hate the

677
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: six sided ring?

678
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 4: I hated it, God, I hated Man was like following

679
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: on the concrete floor. Man, that was like the ropes

680
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 4: were you know, shorter, so they were you know, more tied,

681
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: and then you couldn't really get the spring off of

682
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: And you know, I don't go to the top rope

683
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 4: that much, but man like, even like going up to

684
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: the top rope was hard to stand on because the

685
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 4: corners weren't ninety degrees, you know, they were out further. Man,

686
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 4: it was just it was rough and then and then

687
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 4: turn pad. If you go back and you look at

688
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 4: the turnbuckles, man, they were like two feet wide. Like, yeah,

689
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 4: it was just unreal. But man, like it hurts so bad.

690
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 4: But the other good thing is it's like you had

691
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: a lot more options of stuff that you can do

692
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 4: in the ring as well. So I mean it had

693
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 4: this plus of negatives, but the big negative was it

694
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: was stiff as hell.

695
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, somebody it might have It might have been

696
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 5: Josh Matthews. Actually I can't remember. We we've talked to

697
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 5: several people that are or have been involved with Impact,

698
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 5: but one one person was like maybe it was Jeff Charrett.

699
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 5: Maybe when you talked to Jeff Charrett. I don't remember anyways,

700
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 5: but one of them was like, they're looking at plans

701
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 5: and they're looking at the four sided ring. Then they

702
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 5: looked at the six and they're like, we're going with

703
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 5: the six because I can put that on a toy shelf, right,

704
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 5: And so it.

705
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: Kind of popped because I mean, as a kid, I

706
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: mean if I seen that, like, oh, that's really cool, man.

707
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 5: Right, I'd never I mean short of like UFC stuff.

708
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 5: I mean I'd never seen anything like that, you know.

709
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 5: I was like, what is it?

710
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: And I think this, and I think I remember seeing

711
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: like the six sided ring. Maybe they got it from Mexico.

712
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, trip way yep.

713
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I remember watching some matches of that and

714
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is kind of cool. And then,

715
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: like you said, you know, it looks kind of stiff

716
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: and a very interesting thing is I pulled up Twitter

717
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: real quick that today and this might be a bad

718
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: thing for you, but today your friend defeated you in

719
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: a Texas death match and one of the most memorable

720
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: bloody brawls in Impact history back in two thousand and seven.

721
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: It was that match was actually uh it was was yeah,

722
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 4: Mother's Day. It was I remember right after Mother's Day

723
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 4: or something like that. Because I remember my mom that

724
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: was all in the pay per view that she watched

725
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: a long time. I was like, oh, maybe you shouldn't

726
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 4: order this.

727
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: You and Chris going at it, and I remember that

728
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: match and then going back and watching it, I was like,

729
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: holy crap, like this this was an amazing match.

730
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 4: What a lot of people don't realize or understand about

731
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 4: that match is there's the one part where he spears

732
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 4: me off the ring and I go through the table.

733
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 4: I actually hit the back of my head on the

734
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 4: concrete floor, and when I come up, you'll see just

735
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 4: the puddle of blood and this blood pouring out of

736
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: the back of my head. So I had to get

737
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 4: I had to get two staples put in the back

738
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 4: of my head. Uh. And and I was like knocked out,

739
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 4: like like when I was coming up, like I had

740
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 4: no clue where I was at. And I remember Rudy going, hey, man,

741
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 4: like they want to know if you're okay because they're

742
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 4: gonna stop it. And I was like, I was like, wait,

743
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: where are we Like it took me literally a second

744
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: to figure out what was going on. And I told

745
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 4: Rudy said no, no, no, just give me, just give me

746
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 4: a little time. I said, it's it's okay, okay, and

747
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 4: he gave the signal that I was okay, and I

748
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 4: remember and I told him I said, go ask Chris

749
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 4: what I got to do next, and then hopefully to

750
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 4: kick in or whatever. And then I just remember Chris

751
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 4: the saying duck superkick. I was like, all right, I

752
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: got it. I'm not going track. Let's go, but if

753
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 4: you go back and watch it, man, I was just

754
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 4: like I hit the back of my head and like

755
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 4: when I come up, man, this is I mean, it's

756
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 4: a huge pile of blood.

757
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 5: Well I pulled up a calendar from May of two

758
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 5: thousand and seven, and the thirteenth was on Mother's Day

759
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 5: that Sunday, So if y'all taped it that day, you

760
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 5: actually taped it on Mother's Day.

761
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 4: So that was it. Yeah, I remember it being on

762
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 4: Mother's Day or right around there and my mom watching it.

763
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, yeah, that probably wasn't the best

764
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 5: Mother's Day gift.

765
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 4: No, it wasn't. And then you know, even the match

766
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: that me and Bobby had at Boundford Glory in Arizona too,

767
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 4: like my brother, my brother was there and he was

768
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 4: sitting in the front row, second row, and my mom

769
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 4: was watching that pay per view as well, and like

770
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 4: you know, it's poor blood and my mom and you

771
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 4: can look and you see my brother like on the

772
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 4: pay per view on his phone, and it was my

773
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 4: mom saying, hey, is he okay? And my brother like

774
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm sitting in the crowd, Like he

775
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 4: walked out. So I guess he's okay.

776
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well kind of related to what we're talking about.

777
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 5: While ago, but if you have Amazon Prime, they uploaded

778
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 5: a bunch of CWA stuff from the eighties and I

779
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 5: found an episode from around eighty six and jeff Jarrett

780
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 5: is on the episode, but he's refereeing. And if I

781
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 5: didn't know that's who it was in the description, I

782
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 5: would not. He was like seventeen, he weighed a hundred pounds.

783
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 5: He had the feathered hair going on. And when they

784
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 5: Lance or Lance Russell was like Jeffrey Jarrett and I

785
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 5: was like what And I looked and like you can

786
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 5: tell his face, but nothing else looks that, you know,

787
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 5: not the long blonde haired. He hadn't hit the weights yet.

788
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 5: So if you get some time, go down that rabbit hole.

789
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 5: They put a lot of stuff up on that.

790
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 4: So yeah, cool.

791
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 5: So kind of moving along with your impact career, we're

792
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 5: going to talk about it. You obviously were the TNA

793
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 5: World heavyweight Champion. When did you find out you were

794
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 5: going to get the top belt and what just I mean,

795
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 5: if you can explain it, I mean, what was that experience?

796
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 4: Like, uh, you know, I don't I remember I didn't

797
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 4: really find out until later in the day. You know.

798
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 4: It wasn't like what was It was more like when

799
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 4: the show started, you know, they finally to me and

800
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: told me or whatever. So and I just remember like

801
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: wanting to have like this classic match with Kurt and

802
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 4: and everything. But he was hurt. He had like a

803
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: partially torn like hamstring stuff and he said, look, he said,

804
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 4: he said, we can go out there, and he goes,

805
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 4: I'll try to give it my best. He said, we

806
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 4: can try to go ten fifteen minutes. He goes, but

807
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 4: he was let me tell you. He goes, it's going

808
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 4: to mean a lot more if you just beat me

809
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 4: really quick. And I was like, he's like his his

810
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 4: exact words were, soon as the bell start, I'll beat

811
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: the ship out of you, and then you kick me.

812
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, and man, like you can ask

813
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 4: anybody who's been hit by Kurt, Like God imighty. I

814
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 4: tell him, I'm like, please hit me with you a

815
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 4: real punch, because your fake punches are killing me. Like

816
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 4: he would just club you on the top of the head.

817
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 4: You're like, what did I do wrong? Oh?

818
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 5: You think he's like ribbing you in the ring and

819
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 5: you're like.

820
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 4: No, just and uh, and so like I remember, no,

821
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 4: I remember kicking him and man like that three town.

822
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 4: I just remember that crowd just freaking erupting and and

823
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 4: as loud as it was, and there I can still

824
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: hear Kurt perfect. He goes, he goes, congratulations, cowboy, because

825
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 4: you really are. I appreciate it. Man.

826
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 5: So, so what is is Kurt really as good in

827
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 5: the rings as his reputation leads there one to believe?

828
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 4: No, he's better. I mean, like people don't understand like this, guys,

829
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 4: He's a freaking animal. And uh, I love him to death.

830
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 4: He was always really cool with me. He like if

831
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: when we always worked each other, he would actually let

832
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 4: me put the matches together and stuff. Oh wow, he

833
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: just throw stuff in here and there. It's really cool.

834
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: And uh, and I don't know, it's just a lot

835
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 4: of fun working him, because I mean, you get in

836
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 4: there with Kurt, you better be ready to go and

837
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 4: step your game up because you know he's going to

838
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 4: bring it no matter what. Yeah. Right.

839
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 5: We talked to Crimson Well several times obviously, but he

840
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 5: h he said that's his, hands down, his favorite match

841
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 5: he's ever had. And he didn't It took him a

842
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 5: half a second, Like so if you had to pick

843
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 5: what was your favorite match, curding up just instantly, and

844
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 5: you know a lot of people have that response, like

845
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 5: Kurt Angle's won the Top five or that's one of

846
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 5: the best matches I've ever had, and you know, so

847
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 5: you always kind of wonder, you know, like about his

848
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 5: swinn ring stuff and all that.

849
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean he was, like I said,

850
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 4: you just knew he's another one of those guys, like

851
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 4: you know when you got done working Kurt, like you know,

852
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 4: you've you've been in the match. Yeah.

853
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: So you know, we all got super excited when when

854
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: you showed up at WWE at NXT and we're like, Okay,

855
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: beer money is coming back, We're getting it, you know

856
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff.

857
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 2: And then you know, some things happened behind the scenes.

858
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: Can you walk us kind of through like how that

859
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: opportunity came to be about being an NXT and kind

860
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: of why it ended so quickly.

861
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it was, uh you know, I was sitting

862
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 4: home and NXT was actually in Nashville, and I was

863
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: going to go up there and just see this hang

864
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 4: out with a couple of friends. Uh So I get

865
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 4: up there and uh, you know, I get a text

866
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 4: from road Dog and he's like, hey man, he goes, uh,

867
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: he knows, what do you think about coming down to

868
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: Florida and working one of the nxt s. I was

869
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 4: like sure and uh oh he said, he said, what

870
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 4: are you thinking about coming down and talking, you know

871
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 4: about maybe working for us? I was like, yes, you're

872
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 4: really cool. And then uh I remember a Tran pulled

873
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 4: me to the side because he was an agent on those,

874
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 4: and he said he showed me an email from Hunter.

875
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: He's like, tell Stone to bring his gear, you know,

876
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 4: because we might have him worked or whatever. I was like,

877
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: all right, cool, and so I go down and you know,

878
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: I talked to him and stuff, and then I had

879
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 4: the match and uh, you know afterwards like you know,

880
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 4: we'll be in touch. And then it was two or

881
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: three weeks later, you know, they they called me up

882
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 4: and said that they wanted to sign me and stuff

883
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 4: like that, and you know, it gave me a different

884
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 4: another date to come down and finalize everything up and

885
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 4: talk to him and so so after all that, I

886
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 4: went down and you know I did. I did the

887
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 4: match with Adam Rose and stuff, and they got to

888
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 4: the back and I actually sit down and talked to

889
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 4: Hunter and uh, and I was just like, hey, man,

890
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 4: you know, I appreciate you know everything, and uh he

891
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 4: was telling me like they're going to start running like

892
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 4: almost a Hunter shows for n XT like that next

893
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: year or whatever. You know. So I was like, that's cool, Like,

894
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 4: you know, I don't mind being a row. I love

895
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: be on the road. And uh. But and I and

896
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 4: I told him, I said, but you know, like right now,

897
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: like timing does, it wasn't right because my wife wanted

898
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 4: to have another kid and it was one of the

899
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: things where I had to be home a little more

900
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 4: because she had to do the shots and stuff. Uh,

901
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 4: so I just wasn't able to you know, sign them.

902
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 4: And he and I told him, I said, look, he said,

903
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 4: you know, ten A is offering me this or whatever.

904
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 4: And he straight up told me. He goes, look, he goes,

905
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 4: that's uh, he goes, you can't pass it up. He goes,

906
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 4: he goes, that's a guaranteed contract. Plus the situation that

907
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: you're in with your with your family. He goes, you know,

908
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 4: if it wasn't for that, he goes, I could probably

909
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 4: you know, give you more stuff. He goes, But you know,

910
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 4: he goes, I understand how family is. Yeah, man, I said,

911
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 4: you know, wrestling's gonna leave one day, but my family's

912
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 4: always gonna be there for me. And uh and he

913
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 4: told me, he said, hey, he said, well, he said,

914
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 4: he said, he said, take that teenage deal, he said,

915
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 4: and when it's over with, said, give me a call

916
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 4: and we're able to work something out.

917
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 5: Well, that's cool that it was like back to the

918
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 5: age drama and you didn't burn a bridge or anything.

919
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 4: So many people were like, oh, he loved because all

920
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 4: this money. Like no, I didn't either, Like I don't.

921
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 4: It didn't bother me, not because it's one of those

922
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 4: things like I would get in and I would prove

923
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 4: my worth number one, number two. It was all about

924
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 4: my family, you know. And if I was that deal,

925
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: I probably wouldn't have had my three year old son

926
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 4: that I have now.

927
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 5: Right, Well, we I think what really got everyone excited

928
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 5: is I guess I can't remember if you were actually

929
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 5: at an Impact show or if you had already done

930
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 5: an indie show, but you were like, I think I

931
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 5: may join my my buddy Bobby, and and everyone was like,

932
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 5: and we all market didn't even know that was a possibility.

933
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: You know, as soon as you heard sorry about your

934
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: damn luck, like on an XT, like I flipped out

935
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh shit, like is this is

936
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: this really happening? Are they just going to throw out

937
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: some random you know, like they try to do with

938
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: Diesel and Raise or ramone when Nash and Hall left, right.

939
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 5: So it was cool that it did it happen, But obviously,

940
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 5: you know, you've kind of moved on, so you know,

941
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 5: it is what it is. Speaking of that we'll kind

942
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 5: of we'll get into, you know, arguably our our favorite

943
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 5: wrestling show right now, n W A NDWA Power Superpower.

944
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 5: It seems like now Carnee Land that's coming on and

945
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 5: there's a girl's power coming out. I'm like, I can't

946
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 5: keep up with all these powers. Like it's like it's

947
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 5: like a superhero, Like what powers do we have? But

948
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 5: so just generally, what has it been like to see

949
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 5: you know, the NWA. I don't know if this is

950
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 5: a real word I say, reascend, reascended, I don't know

951
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 5: if that's reclimb the mountain whatever. I think you get

952
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. What was it like to see that,

953
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 5: you know, be a part of that, to kind of

954
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 5: climb back up the mountain and get back to where

955
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 5: where it used to be.

956
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 4: You know, I think it's I think it's really cool,

957
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 4: and not just because I'm there, just because of I

958
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 4: know how much work you know, Nick and Dave, a

959
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 4: Ghana and Billy have put into it, you know, because

960
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 4: I was one of the the first guys that they

961
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 4: spoke to, you know, when they had talked about doing

962
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 4: all this stuff, and you know, they asked me if

963
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 4: I would be on board, you know once they kind

964
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 4: of get stuff going. Yeah, man, like I'd love to

965
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 4: help because and I said, it's really cool because it

966
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: kind of takes me back because, like I said, I

967
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 4: was supposed to have started with USWA that was doing

968
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 4: a studio show.

969
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 5: Down in Memphis yep, Channel five.

970
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, now Nwa is gonna be doing a studio show.

971
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 4: So it's kind of came full of circle. So now

972
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 4: I finally get to do my studio show that I

973
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 4: would be.

974
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 5: And it's got to be a good schedule for you

975
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 5: having a family, because you guys tape in advanced, so

976
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 5: you got what do you do? Go to Atlanta for

977
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 5: five days and then you're off for two or three months.

978
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 5: I mean, like it's not. It's not you know, three

979
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 5: hundred dates a year or anything like that.

980
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 4: Well, the funny thing is is like I want to

981
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 4: be on the road to get away.

982
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 5: Right right.

983
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: You get that that will happen soon once all this

984
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: coronavirus stuff is done.

985
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 5: But I mean, once you start traveling at nineteen or twenty,

986
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 5: it's kind of hard to turn that ditch off, you

987
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 5: know what I mean.

988
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and no, it's just one of the things. It's

989
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 4: like I said, you know, at the time, I couldn't

990
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 4: do it just because you know, my wife and the

991
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 4: kids situation and all that. But now, like I have

992
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 4: my my life like situation, I have everything perfect, Like

993
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 4: I don't mind, you know, traveling. And that's why I like,

994
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 4: even when I'm not doing NWA shows, like I'm I'm

995
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 4: booked like every weekend doing independent shows like all over

996
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 4: the world because I love still wrestling. Why I can

997
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 4: you know, I know one day it's going to end,

998
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 4: but like I'm, I can still go and I still

999
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 4: help a lot of guys like learn how to wrestle

1000
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 4: on TV in front of a camera. You know, you

1001
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: get you get so many guys like on independent shows

1002
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 4: that you know that won't to work with me because

1003
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 4: I'll tell them like, look like you can go out

1004
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 4: here and do all these flips. I want to teach

1005
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 4: you like how to wrestle, like for a TV show,

1006
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 4: you know, like it's like we go out there, like

1007
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: you have to pretend like something is the hard camera

1008
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 4: and something. These corners are different other cameras like you

1009
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 4: you know, so you got to learn to work the cameras,

1010
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: not just the audience, which you know with a It's

1011
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 4: really cool because like and I tell people like you

1012
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 4: have to go and experience that show NWA power, because man,

1013
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 4: that audience is like nothing. You know. We had so

1014
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 4: many people, we had you know, over on thy eleven

1015
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 4: hundred people at Universal Studio. But man, like this crowded

1016
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 4: NWA just kind of blows them away now, man, because

1017
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: they're there to have a good time, you know, and

1018
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 4: there's not really just part people coming in and try

1019
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 4: get out of the heat, you know, because they think

1020
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: we're the teacup ride or something. You know. So it's

1021
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 4: so it's really cool to have wrestling fans at the

1022
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 4: show and just super loud and it's and it's just

1023
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 4: carries over into the ring and the guys are just

1024
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 4: having so much fun doing it.

1025
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and it's been interest. It's been awesome to

1026
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 5: see because you know, with with us being from the South,

1027
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 5: you know, for me, it was the NWA slash WCW

1028
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 5: like that was you know, I did watch WWF slash

1029
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 5: WWE obviously, but I mean, like I was a WCW

1030
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 5: guy like that was.

1031
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 4: That was it.

1032
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 5: And so so I remember those studio shows, you know,

1033
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 5: I remember, you know, WCW Saturday Night, I remember the

1034
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 5: Saturday morning stuff. I remember the NWA show that was

1035
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 5: technically called World Championship Wrestle like I you know, so

1036
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 5: once that launched, I was like, holy crap, I'm back

1037
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 5: at ten years old, and you know, this is incredible.

1038
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 5: But you know, I think NWA has been doing a

1039
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 5: really good job of you know, they are utilizing some

1040
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 5: of the talents from other places, you know, Impact and

1041
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 5: w W and blah blah blah. But you know they

1042
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 5: are putting that spotlight on some of the younger guys too,

1043
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 5: you know. I mean, Ricky Stars is one of my

1044
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 5: favorite guys right now. He's incredible. He actually was rested.

1045
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 5: He wrestled with Crimson down here in Clarksville not too

1046
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 5: long ago. And you know, Ziggy Dice, I think he's

1047
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 5: going to be a very interesting kind of a heel guy,

1048
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 5: you know. So they're they're kind of putting that emphasis.

1049
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,479
Speaker 5: It's a good balance of the veterans. But then they're

1050
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 5: there they are kind of pushing some of those younger guys.

1051
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 4: I tell you a funny story. We were down there

1052
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 4: last last taping in January and there was some big protest.

1053
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: That was going on for oh I remember this, the.

1054
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 4: War or something, and like, I think NWA posted something

1055
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 4: on the social media where Ziggy Dice was out there

1056
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 4: messing with him because like I was coming back, I

1057
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 4: had to go back to the hotel, and when I

1058
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 4: was walking back, they were just blocking the road. So

1059
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 4: I just like I just puffed up my chest and like, yo,

1060
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 4: you better get out of my way quick. You people

1061
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 4: don't even know how to spell war, you know. If

1062
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 4: you look at these people, like you're sitting here protesting

1063
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 4: something that you know nothing about, you know, and and

1064
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 4: so like, and then all of a sudden, all these

1065
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 4: and they were so loud you can kind of hear

1066
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 4: them in the studio. So Ziggy's like, I'm just gonna

1067
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 4: go out there and act like I'm doing you know,

1068
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 4: it's a protest for me losing against against.

1069
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 6: And so he goes out there and he is he's

1070
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 6: another guy like film him. He's he's just start starting

1071
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 6: talking to these protesters. He's like, he goes, yeah, were

1072
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 6: protests against. Ricky starts winning, blah blah blah. That's right,

1073
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 6: and the guys like, what in the world is this

1074
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 6: guy do?

1075
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 4: And like I had no clue who Ricky starts, you know,

1076
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 4: like this like these protesters and he and they started

1077
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 4: chatting something. So he starts chatting with him whatever. It's like, yeah,

1078
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 4: down with Ricky starts, Oh, I got him. There's so

1079
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 4: much fun. And it's like I said, that's it's so

1080
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 4: much fun to have a locker room like that when

1081
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 4: guys are just because it makes everything so much easier

1082
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 4: and so much more fun, you know, when you have

1083
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 4: a place that you want to go work, you know,

1084
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 4: like I said, there was there was times you know,

1085
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 4: a T and a you know, I leave my house

1086
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 4: like all right, going to Florida, you know, down to

1087
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 4: Orlando Universe Studios. But then I get there, like, oh god,

1088
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: you know I'm here, you know, and it had nothing

1089
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 4: to do with the guys, Like it just started draining

1090
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 4: on everyone, you know, like towards the end because it

1091
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 4: was one of those things again, like they were do

1092
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 4: these filmings and they would do like three a day,

1093
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: and so like the people who had to do the more,

1094
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 4: I didn't tape and we'd get there and there would

1095
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 4: be like thirty people in the crowd, like what is what?

1096
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 4: Like we were we were doing Corona tapements before Corona

1097
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 4: came along, and they were just like man, it was

1098
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 4: just just just wear them guys, especially if you if

1099
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 4: you were there all day for all three shows.

1100
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1101
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: So not too long ago, we did have Billy on

1102
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: the show. We kind of got to talk to him

1103
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: about you know, n w A and doing the pop

1104
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: up show and some other stuff. What was I guess

1105
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: the biggest difference working with Billy an impact and working

1106
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: with him now in n w A.

1107
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 4: I think I think with the I think impact, uh,

1108
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 4: because we didn't really get along too well that impact

1109
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 4: And I mean it wasn't like a hatred or anything

1110
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 4: like that. I think it was just you know, I

1111
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 4: think he had his way and I had mine or whatever.

1112
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 4: But it was just but I didn't know. It was

1113
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 4: one of those things like I didn't even know who

1114
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 4: the boss was, you know, I didn't know if he

1115
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 4: was supposed to be the boss, or if Ron and

1116
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 4: Don Harris and that group was the boss, or if

1117
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 4: Dixie was the bass or you know, I didn't I

1118
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 4: had no clue like he had. All these people were

1119
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 4: like telling me what to do. I'm like, well, who

1120
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 4: do I listen to? You know? And and but it's

1121
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 4: one of those things where I think it's also Billy

1122
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 4: was just stressed. You know, it was a stressful time

1123
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 4: during during that and I think now, like you know,

1124
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 4: he's back there and you can see him, he's more relaxed,

1125
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 4: and he's just having fun, you know, and and he's

1126
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 4: joking with the boys and stuff like that. Like I

1127
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 4: think when he was at TNA, it was a lot

1128
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 4: of this business Billy, you know, And even though it's

1129
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: business Billy at n w A, it's still is you know,

1130
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 4: he's joking around because he knows that, you know, when

1131
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 4: guys are relaxed and have fun, they'll do anything for you,

1132
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: you know, that for you.

1133
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 5: And I think my granny would have said, your bosses

1134
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 5: who signed your checks?

1135
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 4: So exactly.

1136
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so we're gonna move into something a little controversial.

1137
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 5: We're you know, not trying to start any viral, was

1138
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 5: there anything. We're just trying to get your your opinion

1139
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 5: on this. A what should we call him personality maybe

1140
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 5: or whatever personality known in the wrestling world named Eric

1141
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 5: Bischoff recently did an interview and had some interesting things

1142
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 5: to say about one James Storm. First part of the

1143
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 5: question is what was your working relationship with him? Like,

1144
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 5: you know, did you guys get along and Impact all that?

1145
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 5: And if you have heard his comments from his interview,

1146
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 5: do you have anything to reply to that.

1147
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 4: You know, I really didn't talk to Eric that much,

1148
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 4: you know at Impact. Uh, you know, he was just

1149
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 4: always running running around or he would just stay in

1150
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 4: like I guess, I don't want to say.

1151
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 5: His little group, but he would you know, hang out

1152
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 5: with Hulk.

1153
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 4: He had his people, you know, and that's that's fine,

1154
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 4: Like all wrestlers do that. You know, they had the

1155
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 4: little clique they always hang out with, you know. But

1156
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 4: as far as like the comments that you know, because

1157
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: people were like, oh, what did you do to kissed

1158
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: Eric Bischoff? Off? I was like, well, I don't think

1159
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 4: I really did anything. I was like, because he said

1160
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 4: he was a fan of my work and stuff, but

1161
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 4: he was trying to say that I'd get mad if

1162
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 4: I had to lose or whatever. And I was like, well,

1163
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: I must have been pissed off a lot because I

1164
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 4: lost way more than I won. I had no clue,

1165
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 4: and I you know, and and and then he said

1166
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 4: that it was like a running joke with Creative. I went,

1167
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 4: I said, well, that's that's it kind of looks bad

1168
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: on Creative then, because it's one of those things that

1169
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 4: we go back to Jeff Jarrett where if he saw

1170
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 4: something wrong, like he would go and say, hey, you

1171
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 4: need to stop doing this, you know, because it's noticeable

1172
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 4: on the show. That's That's how I kind of look

1173
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 4: at that, Like, why didn't someone if it was supposed

1174
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 4: to be just running Joe One, need someone come and

1175
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 4: fill me in on it, you know, be like you

1176
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 4: know you're doing this and this and whatever. And as

1177
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 4: far as like I think, he said somebody you can

1178
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 4: go and watch stuff impact out, I was like, okay, yeah,

1179
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 4: go watch the Impact and tell me when I come

1180
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 4: out if I'm gonna win or lose, because I come

1181
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 4: out the same exact way every time.

1182
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 5: Right, Well, it was it was interesting because, like you know,

1183
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 5: we went back and you know, just looked online and stuff,

1184
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 5: and it just like we had never really heard any anything.

1185
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 5: You know, no one else really were saying those things.

1186
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 5: So we're like, well, this is kind of out of

1187
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 5: left field, you know, like out of all the people

1188
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 5: he could have talked about during his impact that, you

1189
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 5: know what I mean. Like I was like, and James

1190
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 5: was there like almost fifteen years so obviously he played ball.

1191
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 4: So and that's why I like, I take it with

1192
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 4: a grain of salt. You know, people have their opinions

1193
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 4: about everybody. You know. I have my opinion about Santa Claus,

1194
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 4: like I really don't like his little fat ass timing

1195
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 4: down my chimney without you know, being invited, right, But

1196
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 4: you know, it is what it is like, And I say, like,

1197
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 4: go watch it, like the proofs in the pudding, Like

1198
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: you can't tell you know which match I'm going to

1199
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 4: win to lose, Like I said, you know when I

1200
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 4: when I lost to Chris Harris, did I look like

1201
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 4: booby face? Noah. I came up there and I was

1202
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 4: a heel and I did my work right.

1203
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 5: Well, and it's like, you know, even if if, if,

1204
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 5: if what he was saying was true. You know, like

1205
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 5: if you know, when we were talking about you, you

1206
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 5: won the world title. I mean you had the world

1207
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 5: title for like what a week or two weeks or something.

1208
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 4: Well, and see that was one of the things, like

1209
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 4: Hulk wanted to put the title on me. And the

1210
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 4: funny thing is it's like that was the highest rated

1211
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 4: impact in the history. Uh yeah, but it was one

1212
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 4: of the things. It's like I don't really you know,

1213
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 4: like I said, I guess during that time, like creative

1214
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 4: didn't like me, Like, you know, it is what it

1215
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 4: is like. But I always say, like, if you have

1216
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 4: a problem with someone during that time, go say something

1217
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 4: to that.

1218
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 5: Person, right, I mean, how are they going to know

1219
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 5: there's a problem if you don't say something.

1220
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 4: Right, especially if you're supposed to be running the company. Right.

1221
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 5: Well, I know, I realized this is like a different situation.

1222
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 5: But we Uh. I was at the NBA pop up

1223
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 5: show in Clarksville, so I got to meet you and

1224
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 5: Nick and you know, we talked for a couple of minutes.

1225
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 5: I was at the uh the uh dojo pro thing

1226
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 5: that you did here in that and I watched you

1227
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 5: do the job to Joey Janella. Yeah, so I don't

1228
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 5: know a lot of veterans that this was before anybody

1229
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 5: really who knew who he was. He was he that

1230
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 5: was like the year he broke out, and that definitely

1231
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 5: was one of those events to put him on the map,

1232
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 5: you know, wrestling somebody of your caliber. So but you know,

1233
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 5: there's not I mean, you know, could you imagine Hulk

1234
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 5: putting someone over half his age?

1235
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 4: You know?

1236
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 5: It just I don't know it for us. I mean,

1237
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 5: you know, obviously BMWCW guys, we have respect from this shoff.

1238
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 5: But you know when he made those comments, were like, god,

1239
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 5: that's just like picking.

1240
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: On where did this come from?

1241
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 5: I mean all I heard these stories about all these

1242
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 5: like you know mad men an Impact that were running

1243
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 5: things into the ground, and like you never hear this

1244
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 5: stuff about you know, the Cowboy, and it's like that

1245
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 5: just it seemed like a weird target to pick, you know.

1246
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, I just don't bother me because

1247
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 4: I know what I did. You know, to me, I

1248
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: just go out there and do what needs to be done.

1249
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a it was an interesting thing. You know,

1250
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 5: we're like, I don't know, should we talk about it?

1251
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 5: And I said, I think we should talk about it,

1252
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 5: just because it's so random, Like it's just so weird

1253
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 5: that he is.

1254
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, because I was drinking beer with him probably

1255
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 4: about six months ago. We're sitting at the bar, say something,

1256
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 4: you know, like, hey, maybe you know back in the days,

1257
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 4: you're a real dick, you know, like, Eh, I'm sorry,

1258
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 4: I didn't know it.

1259
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good to know now that we're not both

1260
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 5: not in it anymore, I guess. Oh.

1261
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: Man, So this is kind of a fun question that

1262
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: we'd like to ask every restler when they come on,

1263
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: who is your dream match and.

1264
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: Who is a current talent you wish you can get

1265
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: in the ring with?

1266
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 4: Uh?

1267
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 5: And for the dream match, it can be unrealistic. So

1268
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 5: if it was somebody like whatever, you know, somebody that

1269
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 5: had passed away and there was no Bruno San.

1270
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: Martino, right, just like, who is somebody you wish you.

1271
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 5: Could have fault all? You know everything.

1272
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 4: There's two guys I really wish that I could have

1273
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 4: wrestled now is Brett Hart and uh, mister Perfect. I

1274
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 4: get that I got to hang out with Miss Perfect

1275
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 4: a lot when he was at tna uh so, I

1276
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: mean it was I was just like, man, like I

1277
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 4: really wish and and he he taught me so much,

1278
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 4: Like he pulled me to the side after matches and

1279
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 4: just tell me what I was doing wrong and stuff

1280
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 4: like that. Man, Like I wish I could just get

1281
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 4: in there and just work with it.

1282
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 5: You know.

1283
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 4: It was it was just I don't know.

1284
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 5: Did you sorry, did you have any interactions with them

1285
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 5: in w c W or had they already.

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00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 4: Because we kind of just had to stick to ourselves,

1287
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 4: you know, we weren't supposed to talk to those you

1288
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 4: know those guys.

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00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, those two are just goy. They were so good,

1290
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 5: just technically sound, and everybody looked like a million bucks

1291
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 5: when they they fought those guys.

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00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like mister perfect Man was like going back and

1293
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 4: washing it. He was like way before it's time, Like

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00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 4: you know.

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00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 5: It was just I mean even his awa stuff, like

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00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 5: when he got the world title and he had that

1297
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 5: I think it was the match he won the title

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01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 5: and he's all bloodied and just yeah, man, he was.

1299
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 5: And I never understood why he got to the second place.

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01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 5: You know, he was the IC champ, he was the

1301
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 5: US champ in w CW. They never he never got

1302
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 5: up to that next level for some reason.

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01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 4: That was actually like I really didn't care about the

1304
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 4: world title during that time, Like I was, I was

1305
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 4: that freaking you know, the i C Champion guy. Like

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01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 4: I like like that division. You had Brett Hart, you

1307
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 4: had Owen, and you had uh, you know, Sean was

1308
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 4: in there for a little bit, and then you know

1309
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 4: mister Perfect. You had all these guys.

1310
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 5: You know, it's just like Rick Rude.

1311
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just unreal. You know.

1312
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 5: It did for a while seem like the IC belt

1313
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 5: was kind of the the fighters belt, you know. And

1314
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 5: I mean even going back to Steamboat Macho Man and

1315
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 5: then like Rick Rude, Warrior, Brad Hart. I mean like

1316
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 5: that like the kind of the meat of the company.

1317
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 5: Those are the guys that had those those belts, you know.

1318
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 5: So anyways, okay, so those are your two dreams, Like

1319
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 5: who who would be a current talent and you wish

1320
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 5: you could get in the ring with.

1321
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 4: I mean, if there was somebody that I would like

1322
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 4: to get in the ring with and work and be

1323
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 4: probably Rand here Orton just because he's a he's a

1324
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 4: storyteller as well. And I look at myself as a storyteller,

1325
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 4: and I just think, man like the matches that him

1326
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 4: and I could have be like really or you know,

1327
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 4: also like Bray Wyatt as well, And it's just one

1328
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 4: of those things, is like, because I I do matches

1329
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 4: that are storyteller. Yeah, I can go out here and

1330
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 4: I can do matches where the guys are flipping and

1331
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 4: flopping and catch them and you know all this stuff.

1332
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 4: But man like to get in there and just tell

1333
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 4: a story. Like like I said, like Brett Hart and

1334
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 4: mister Perfect, those guys just to man like. It's a

1335
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:53,479
Speaker 4: lost art these days.

1336
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah. I thought you were going to say Eric Bischoff,

1337
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 5: and I was gonna laugh.

1338
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 4: Has Eric ever worked a match?

1339
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: Did you do a couple of things in like w

1340
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: c W A like karate? He was wearing the wwwei.

1341
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 5: Pads and stuff. Yeah, yeah I think he did.

1342
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: I mean David Arquette was a champion, so I mean

1343
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: there's a step up of a Eric Bishoff.

1344
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah for sure.

1345
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 4: But no, like I said, like, you know, nothing gets there.

1346
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 4: I love Eric, Like I said, we were drinking not

1347
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 4: too long ago, so you know, it is what it is.

1348
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 4: You know, people people change the look at it.

1349
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 5: So right, Yeah, I got one little bonus question and

1350
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 5: then we'll get the last one. The last one involves

1351
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 5: your merchant patroon page and all that. Why do you

1352
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 5: think the super Kits has become so popular in the

1353
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 5: last I don't know ten years, because before, to my knowledge,

1354
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 5: it was heartbreak kid like that was it. And then

1355
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 5: you know, I you know, started seeing guys like you

1356
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 5: doing it and it wasn't like widespread, but now it's

1357
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 5: almost like a clothesline like people like everyone's doing it now.

1358
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just man, it's just to me, it's just

1359
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 4: you know, a little overdone. It's I mean, but it is,

1360
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 4: like I said, it's part of that wrestling that you

1361
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 4: can't really change, you know. It's it's some people, you know,

1362
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 4: like and I understand, like with the Young Bucks, because

1363
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 4: that's part of their gimmick when they do super you know,

1364
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 4: superkick Party. But then you see a lot of the

1365
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 4: other people on the on their show as well just

1366
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 4: keep throwing supercass Like ah, to me, it kind of

1367
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 4: heals the Superkick Party, you know, something like that. You know,

1368
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 4: It's just I don't know, man, Like, you know, I

1369
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 4: look at it. I was you know, I had to

1370
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 4: talk with someone at the NWA show not too long ago.

1371
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 4: You know, I just like, oh, I'm thinking about changing

1372
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 4: my finisher because everybody does a superkick, right and yeah,

1373
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 4: I go. He goes, No, like you should keep doing

1374
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 4: the superkick. He goes, because you're two hundred and forty

1375
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 4: pounds and could knock somebody out with Yeah.

1376
01:03:55,880 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: Actually, hell, and that will be Eric Bischel. We're just

1377
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: now cracking jokes now, so it's it's it's no, it's

1378
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 2: all good.

1379
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 4: It was. I was in Germany and Vince Russo had

1380
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 4: there's something with Vince Russo and ring and I was

1381
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 4: sitting there going should kick him? For all those times

1382
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 4: I was like, ah, but.

1383
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 5: Not so who was who was the person you knocked out?

1384
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 4: Then? I can't really say, Okay, maybe maybe.

1385
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: When we stopped recording you this, this will be for

1386
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: a This will be on James's Patreon.

1387
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 2: You have to pay into that so you can figure

1388
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 2: out who James knocked out.

1389
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go.

1390
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 4: It's actually I mean, you guys wouldn't even know. It's

1391
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 4: just an indy kid and it was probably you know,

1392
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 4: twelve years ago.

1393
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, probably not.

1394
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 2: I do know that there is one dream match that

1395
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 2: I would love to see.

1396
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: And I've actually kind of talked about this on Twitter

1397
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: with a guy by the name of Adam Roteller who

1398
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: runs the Ten Pounds of Podcasts. We want to see

1399
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: Eli and James Storm versus the Revival.

1400
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of people have been saying that

1401
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 4: now that you know they're quote unquote free agents or whatever,

1402
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 4: you know, and and and you know, I'm friends with

1403
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 4: those guys, man, It was I mean to me, those

1404
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,479
Speaker 4: are guys who are storytellers as well, you know, said

1405
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 4: you know, they say no flips, tost or whatever, and

1406
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 4: and and that's how they are, you know. And I

1407
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 4: think we could tell definitely a really good story with

1408
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 4: those guys. Yeah.

1409
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, My all time favorites probably Sting being the w

1410
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 5: CW guy. Uh. Number two is probably aren't Anderson.

1411
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 4: I lost the Sting. This is this is the truth.

1412
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 4: I lost the Sting eleven weeks in a row. Like

1413
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 4: I think that might have been punishment for something. I

1414
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 4: don't know, because I remember Sting going and saying, maybe

1415
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 4: we should put Storm over in this way.

1416
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, eleven week was that like krow

1417
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 5: Sting or was that Jokersting?

1418
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 4: No, that was that was that was crosting crusting.

1419
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 5: Dang, that would be funny if we found out that

1420
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 5: came from like Bischoff or something, you know what I mean,

1421
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 5: Like we're joking about it, and he's like saying, beating eleven.

1422
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 4: Weeks in a row, his move when he comes out

1423
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 4: when he loses on the eighth time.

1424
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, so let's.

1425
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 2: Let's kind of talk about this. Uh, you got some

1426
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 2: new merch.

1427
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: You've got a Patreon page, So let's talk about the

1428
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: new merch, and let's talk about Patreon because that kind

1429
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: of seems like a lot of a lot of people

1430
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: are doing Patreon. And when I first heard about Patreon,

1431
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: I was grolling through and I was like, like, is

1432
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: this like an OnlyFans page that I'm about to like

1433
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: subscribe to somebody and get something really nasty from.

1434
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 4: Or yeah, no, with with with mine. It's really cool, Like,

1435
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 4: you know, I do that character to Django to Django,

1436
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 4: who's you know, he's kind of out there wrestling fans.

1437
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 4: But I learned how to do green screen stuff not

1438
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 4: in my house, So I've been sitting up a lot

1439
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 4: of doing like a lot of green screen. Like it's

1440
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 4: called the Fake News Network or whatever. And so and

1441
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 4: so the latest one I did with it is with

1442
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 4: the Jngles Jangle being interviewed in a trailer park and

1443
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 4: the aliens came and stole this family. So now he

1444
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 4: has to go find the alien. So I'm in the

1445
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 4: middle now a film and me going out in the

1446
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 4: woods and hunting down this alien and stuff. But the

1447
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 4: problem is is I'm gonna wind up sitting down and

1448
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 4: get drunk with the alien. Nice, So I think I

1449
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 4: run the storyline, but it's yes, it's kind of on that.

1450
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 4: And then also like on my Patreon with the members

1451
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 4: who are you know, played PS four and Xbox or whatever,

1452
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 4: like we we started doing Madden tournaments, uh yeah, and

1453
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 4: so like we we do a bracket and we put

1454
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 4: everybody in the bracket in the winter. You know, it

1455
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 4: gets money and you know, and so it's it's really cool.

1456
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 4: We're about to do like a like a short season,

1457
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 4: uh like on Madden or whatever where you can play

1458
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 4: like eight games or something and then it goes playoffs

1459
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 4: some super Bowl where the winner can win five hundred bucks.

1460
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 4: So yeah, so it's it's really cool. And like I said,

1461
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 4: there's a lot of other stuff, and you know when

1462
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 4: I'm on the road. When I was on the road,

1463
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,479
Speaker 4: like I film, you know, stuff being on the road,

1464
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 4: and then uh, with a certain tier on the Patreon,

1465
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 4: I would stream my live independent matches on a personal

1466
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 4: Instagram page so they can they can watch it as

1467
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 4: it happened.

1468
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 5: Wow, that's really awesome. What's the what's the address? Can

1469
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 5: we just go to is it patreon dot com and

1470
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 5: then just search for James Storm or do you have

1471
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 5: an actual link?

1472
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, patreon dot com for slash James Storm.

1473
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 5: Cool and uh uh dig into your the new merch

1474
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 5: for a little bit.

1475
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched the video of you showing off your

1476
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: new merch and let me just say, you wearing the

1477
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: women's tea that's that's great.

1478
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 4: Stuff makes my chest look big. But uh no, it's

1479
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 4: it's really cool. It's it's something that you know, it's

1480
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 4: kind of been wanting to start for a while. It's

1481
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 4: called the Last Call Outlaw where and you go to

1482
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 4: the Last call Outlaw dot com to get it. Uh,

1483
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 4: And like I said, it's it's it's everything. I have

1484
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 4: women's tank top, women's shirts, men's shirts, you know, workout hoodies, hats, beanies,

1485
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 4: you can even get an autographed beer bottle on there

1486
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 4: as well, So it's a lot of stuff on there.

1487
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: Cool and then as can they get that at just go.

1488
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 4: To last call outlaw dot com.

1489
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 5: And then what are your what are your social links?

1490
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 1: Like?

1491
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 5: What are we? Are you most active on social media?

1492
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:22,799
Speaker 5: For people to follow you?

1493
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 4: Twitter and Instagram? Both of them are James storm Brand.

1494
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 5: James Storm Brand.

1495
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have a Facebook page. I've had so

1496
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 4: many people like I went to a show one time

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Speaker 4: and this girl goes, hey, I've been talking to you

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Speaker 4: on Facebook. I was like, no, no, you haven't looked

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01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 4: at me and goes, are you sure? I'm yeah, I'm

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01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 4: pretty sure. I don't have a Facebook page. Like you're

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01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 4: actually talking to me live in person right now, and

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01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 4: I'm telling you you're not talking to me. Yeah.

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01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 1: Well, the crazy thing is once you become the famous

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01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: person is you've got to deal with all those fake

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01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: accounts and it's like having to say somebody, hey, if it.

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01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 2: Doesn't have a blue check mark, it's not me.

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01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I don't I don't understand that like so

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01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 4: many people. Uh, there's a lot of fakes on Instagram

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01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 4: now and people are like message like, hey, did did

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01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 4: you start a new Instagram because I just kind of

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01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 4: message from this and let no, it's not me.

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Speaker 5: Well, we don't know, you know how how much pool

1513
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 5: you have with with Billy or Dave. But if you

1514
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 5: could send a request to them. We won an n

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01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 5: W A show in Nashville. We kept our fingers crossed

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01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 5: and our toes crossed. We're like, dude, the Crocket Cups

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01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 5: coming to Nashville. We have a feeling. You know, last

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01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 5: year was the warm up Nashville. We're gonna burn it

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01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 5: down and then that didn't happen. So a little bummed.

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Speaker 5: But plant those seeds, man, We need to We need

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01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 5: to get the NWA here in Nashville.

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Speaker 4: It would have been a good place to have it

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01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 4: because I mean it's not far from Atlanta either, so

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01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 4: you know they could have done the Crocket Cup and

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01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 4: then took everything down to Atlanta, right.

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01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 5: Well, especially with the history the NBA has in Nashville.

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01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 5: But I think I think were you not to call

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01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 5: you out, but were you at the Ring of Honor

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01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 5: pay per view last summer? Yep, we thought we we

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01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 5: thought we saw you in the crowd. Yeah, that venue

1531
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 5: is awesome, Like we think that would be a cool,

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01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, I want to see Austin Gunn performed. Yeah,

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01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 4: I went up there to just kind of watch him,

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01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 4: and you know, like I said, just stay hi to

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01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 4: the guys. I was actually on my way to Kentucky

1537
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 4: do any show like the next night, so I just

1538
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 4: figured out to stop being Yeah. Yeah, I was hopefully

1539
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 4: this stupid Corona stuff of hurt go away because I

1540
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 4: was actually supposed to be filming like a really good movie,

1541
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 4: like a big time movie. Oh man, that was gonna

1542
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 4: have some A list people in it, and that's just

1543
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 4: and I was gonna play like the main bat guy.

1544
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 4: So I'm just like, I'm so bommed on that.

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01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: So so we need Coronavirus to go away so we

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01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: can have wrestling back and James Storm can be in

1547
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: this movie.

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Speaker 4: I don't like to me like, I don't I don't

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01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 4: get the whole Corona deal. But that's a whole nother

1550
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 4: show the other day. But you know, it's if it

1551
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 4: don't affect you, the young and healthy, let him go

1552
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 4: out and do whatever. Like he's talking right at the

1553
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 4: older people. If it affects them, they don't have to

1554
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 4: go out, you know.

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01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that if you've been in the stadium

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01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: in and watched a wrestling match, you're probably immune to

1557
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:13,440
Speaker 1: the coronavirus.

1558
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 4: So I'm not going in that system.

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01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you're immune to anything if you've been

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01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: in a bathroom in the stadium in at a wrestling match.

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01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 4: I remember we had to get dressed in like one

1562
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 4: of the rooms and man, it was Oh, it was

1563
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 4: so bad.

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01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: So it's weird to drive by it now because they're

1565
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 1: tearing it down, but it's just so weird to see

1566
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:34,839
Speaker 1: like no windows, no nothing.

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Speaker 4: It was a, I don't know, a fun time.

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Speaker 1: Well, James, we do appreciate you taking the time out

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01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: and talking with us and thank you so much. And

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01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 1: we can't wait to get back to live wrestling, and

1571
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: we know that those NWA tag team titles are going

1572
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: to stay around yours and Eli's wats for a very

1573
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 1: long time.

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Speaker 4: That's it, man, I really appreciate you. Guys. Man, you'll

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Speaker 4: have a go with it.

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01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,719
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