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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Stealer Nation, How we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too, our number two here on this Friday,

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Speaker 2: last hour of the week before we get to the

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Speaker 2: Valentine's Day weekend. Oh yeah, Matt. In the spirit of romanticism,

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Speaker 2: who's your favorite Pittsburgh Steeler ever?

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Speaker 3: Wow? I guess show Green Lambert was. As a kid,

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Speaker 3: I had a Lambert poster.

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Speaker 2: He stood out like the Sports Illustrated cover.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, no, it was like a Sports Illustrated

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Speaker 3: poster back. Okay, you know.

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Speaker 2: I loved that real quick. By the way, Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: and I've both watched the Lway documentary on Netflix. The

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Speaker 2: opening scene is him describing his first game as a

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Speaker 2: rookie in the NFL, and He's like, I'm under center

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Speaker 2: and I look across the line of scrimmage and there's

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Speaker 2: a neck roll, no teeth, crazy man name Jack Lambert

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Speaker 2: looking at me, and I'm thinking, do I really want

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Speaker 2: to do this for the next fifteen years?

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Speaker 3: Sounds all right? Yeah? I mean, because he was when

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Speaker 3: you were that young. I mean I was like six

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Speaker 3: or seven when I understood really what football was, and

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Speaker 3: they have just won the four Super Bowl. He was

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Speaker 3: the most noticeable if you don't know the game, you know,

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Speaker 3: like made every tackle. He looked crazy.

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Speaker 2: Sure, right, Sure, Troy Paula Malu. For me, I thought so.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think if you're my age, ish, it's

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Speaker 2: it's tough for Troy not not to be your guy, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen teams in the National Football League did not make

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Speaker 2: the playoffs this past season. That is the case now

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League, and I just wanted to,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of go over the list here with you.

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Speaker 2: Not that we have to deep dive into what we

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Speaker 2: every single move we would make if we were these teams,

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Speaker 2: but just kind of tears of like, hey, if you're

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Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens or the Detroit Lions, no need to panic,

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Speaker 2: you know. I guess panic is a relative word.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And we'll get to the Ravens, I guess. But

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Speaker 3: I mean they made a coaching change, and they do

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Speaker 3: have a lot of needs.

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Speaker 2: Let's start. Let's start with the Baltimore Ravens. Okay, don't

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Speaker 2: have a ton of cap space, only seven million dollars

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Speaker 2: projected right now.

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Speaker 3: Now, A lot of these teams will make more. They'll

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Speaker 3: restructure and trade gap absolutely, guys.

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Speaker 2: Right, they have seven draft picks currently, Yeah, which is

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Speaker 2: not a tiny mini school number, but isn't a beefy

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Speaker 2: number either, and their top three agent, Tyler Linderbaum is

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Speaker 2: pretty significant.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's gonna be tough to bring back.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be tough to bring back.

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Speaker 3: Already linked to both Harbaughs.

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Speaker 2: Offensive line clearly regressed. But I think for them the

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Speaker 2: real kicker is it? It all just matters if you know,

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Speaker 2: if you can get Lamar quickly turned around and back

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Speaker 2: to Lamar of of days past, I think they'll be

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Speaker 2: just fine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But like I picked him to win the Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl last year? Yeah, and so what is just fine? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Are they gonna get to like the Bengals with Burrow

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Speaker 3: and be just fine, almost make the playoffs just fine

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Speaker 3: and have a great quarterback? Or can you get back

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Speaker 3: the team? You know, smart people like ourselves picking them

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Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl? You know, maybe I'm not

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Speaker 3: that smart because they didn't, because I look at both

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Speaker 3: lines of scrimmage and think they might need two guards

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Speaker 3: in a center when it's all said and done. The

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Speaker 3: Matta Bouquet injury if he's done or not close to

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Speaker 3: where they were, is really hard to overcome. And they

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Speaker 3: don't have edge pass rushed, you know, so they need

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Speaker 3: all the big fellows. Again, they're not gonna bottom out.

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Speaker 3: I'mout suggesting that, but you can make the argument that

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Speaker 3: with a new era, the this is part two of

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Speaker 3: the Lamar era and he's you know, the window part

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Speaker 3: one is shut.

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Speaker 2: The window part one is shut and part two could reopen.

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Speaker 2: But right now you got to you gotta make some

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Speaker 2: right moves to get Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I forget who was I on the air with.

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Speaker 3: They had a great at great point, and I'm not

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Speaker 3: bashing the Ravens, but Ozzie Knewsome was such a such

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Speaker 3: a great GM. He was a phenomenal tight end too.

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Speaker 3: He's great football player. But if you notice their drafts

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Speaker 3: since Newsome, they have been pulling the guys like you

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Speaker 3: assume they do, you know, like I like mel Kiper,

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Speaker 3: but he's from Baltimore and every time every draft, you

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Speaker 3: know how they do the grades after the draft. The

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Speaker 3: Ravens always always, I mean, and then during the Aussie

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Speaker 3: not drafted nearly as well.

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Speaker 2: No, they have not. One of the guys that they

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Speaker 2: clearly hit on, Tyler Linderbaum might be exiting, yeah, right

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Speaker 2: right or left here before too much longer. Detroit Lions

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Speaker 2: Matt another one that certainly not an overhaul territory.

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Speaker 3: No, they just need it or low refreshing.

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Speaker 2: They are twenty three million dollars under the cap and

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Speaker 2: have eight draft picks in the upcoming game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I worry that their window is closing, not closed.

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Speaker 2: It might just be slightly cracked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But overall, I think they'll still be a

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Speaker 3: double digit type win team and could win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: You know, Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: I bet they bounce back huge.

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Speaker 2: I do too. But and only five draft picks and

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Speaker 2: currently sixty million dollars above the cap.

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Speaker 3: Over over, they have the cap issues.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they have sixty million dollars of cap issues, and

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Speaker 2: they only have five draft picks. But they also have

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Speaker 2: and they also have Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: And they didn't have to run back what they have.

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Speaker 3: Kelsey retires, that would open up some space. They can

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Speaker 3: go to the Bank of Mahomes and restructure them. But

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Speaker 3: they had a lot of after the Mahomes injury doesn't

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Speaker 3: almost count with like that. But but if you look

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Speaker 3: at a lot of the advanced metrics, they were still

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Speaker 3: the top of the league and all the things you

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Speaker 3: want to be. They just have a really bad luck.

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Speaker 2: They had had a lot of things bounce their way

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Speaker 2: for the last seven years, and a lot those bounces. Yes,

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Speaker 2: exactly right, the bell told for thee.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I think those three are kind of in the

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Speaker 2: top tier of teams who did not make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: They would shock nobody if they're back, right, exactly, it.

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Speaker 2: Shouldn't few moves away Cincinnati? Are they a few moves away?

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Speaker 2: Sixty million dollars in cap space, seven draft picks. They

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Speaker 2: do have the Trey Hendrickson situation to figure out those.

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Speaker 3: Which I think will turn into a well no, well

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Speaker 3: he's gonna leave.

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Speaker 2: I would be shocked if he plays another game for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Because if they franchise him, he's not gonna be happy

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Speaker 3: or play for them either. Probably, I would basically do

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Speaker 3: nothing on offense. So will they spend on two free

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Speaker 3: agents on defense that are solid starters and then draft defense.

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Speaker 2: They've got the cap space, that's the move to make.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty obvious. They've just been so bad at drafting defense.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they've hit defense so hard for the last

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Speaker 2: And they went from having the thirty second ranked defense

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've they made this coaching change. They's players.

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Speaker 2: That's tough.

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Speaker 3: It is tough.

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Speaker 2: I think you and I both agree with this one.

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Speaker 3: But there'll be plenty of people picking them to win Division.

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Speaker 2: I bet I don't think as many as going into

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Speaker 2: this past year. They were kind of if you weren't

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Speaker 2: taking Baltimore, they were kind of like the sexy I'm

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Speaker 2: super Smarart takes Cincinnati pick Dallas Cowboys another one listed

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Speaker 2: as just a few moves away. I agree with that,

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Speaker 2: but they are another one significantly over the cap, about

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Speaker 2: sixty six sixty seven million dollars over the cap. Eight

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Speaker 3: And of course first rounders though two first rounders, no

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Speaker 3: second or third.

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Speaker 2: No second or third, And of course the George Pickens

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Speaker 2: contract situation to figure out.

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Speaker 3: And I think he gets franchise. He's not going nowhere.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, a couple of these teams are easy,

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Speaker 3: like Cincy and Dallas like invest in defense like heavy,

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Speaker 3: and you should have a really good offense. Get your

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Speaker 3: defense to average, and that's the few moves away that

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Speaker 3: you could be a contender. But this could be their year,

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Speaker 3: I mean, or it sets up to kind of potentially

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Speaker 3: be their year. Two first round picks, Yeah, already have

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Speaker 3: like quinnin Williams and those guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're aside from the cap space, they're not

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Speaker 2: in a very bad situation, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: They're not.

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Speaker 2: The Indianapolis Colts. Are they a few moves away? A

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Speaker 2: thirty six million in cap space? Obviously the Daniel Jones conundrum,

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Speaker 2: but they have no first round pick. They only have

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Speaker 2: five picks total in this upcoming draft.

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Speaker 3: I think there are a few moves away from being

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Speaker 3: better than they've been, you know, maybe back to that

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Speaker 3: power rank or something like that. That's probably their ceiling.

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Speaker 3: Could I write a story where they win the Super Bowl? Maybe,

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Speaker 3: But I think we're talking about like get back to

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, right, and when they say a few moves away,

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Speaker 3: not from being the best team in the league, correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I think they'll hover around five hundred or

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, this this exercise is being a few

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Speaker 2: return into the postseason. Minnesota Vikings also listed as a

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Speaker 2: few moves away. I don't know if I agree with

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Speaker 2: fifty nine million dollars over the cap.

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Speaker 3: I know they've fired their GM for mismanaging the cap

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Speaker 3: and investing in McCarthy and Turner and all these guys heavily.

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Speaker 2: They do have ten draft picks, so a nice, nice

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Speaker 3: He also in the toughest divisional league. I mean, like,

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Speaker 3: they're clearly fourth in their division. I think they're a

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Speaker 3: move or two away from getting back to like the

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Speaker 3: eight win type of team. But I probably would have

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Speaker 3: in a category below this because a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: If you ask me if they're trending up or trnding down,

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Speaker 2: I would go with down.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's a good way. Put it.

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Speaker 2: Last in the few moves away tier. The Tampa Bay

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Speaker 2: Buccaneers twenty seven million dollars in cap space, seven draft picks,

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Speaker 2: Mike Evans their most notable free agent. I don't know

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Speaker 2: afeel me back or not you might retire.

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Speaker 3: Maybe an interesting move he was, I would say there

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Speaker 3: are a few moves away, though.

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Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes and you know what, I would

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Speaker 2: even include the Steelers in this despite the rich history

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Speaker 2: of the organization that Tampa Bay has had some recent success.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely doesn't have the history of the Steelers, but they've

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Speaker 2: row before the I go back and forth, and I

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Speaker 2: think you and I have even had this conversation on

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Speaker 2: the importance of the one helmet guy. How much does

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Speaker 2: it matter Ben Roethlisberger being that guy, and Tom Brady

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Speaker 3: I don't either.

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Speaker 3: They're making progress. I like the coach. I like the

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Speaker 3: I do think Harbo raises all ships though completely. I

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that's gonna be enough to usurp

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Speaker 3: Now, they played by far the toughest schedule in the

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Speaker 3: Now that doesn't mean you get in, you know.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one million dollars in cap space, seven picks in

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Speaker 3: This is almost same conversation as since he in Dallas.

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Speaker 2: In the middle of a rebuild, the Cleveland Browns and

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Speaker 3: Mass the season a way better position though they should

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Speaker 2: They should be the Giants, yes, and the Saints yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: The old lines would really work.

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Speaker 2: The Raiders have the worst quarterback room in the National

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Speaker 2: for a couple months to they get Mendoza. The Browns,

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Speaker 3: And it's terrible, right. I think they're the longest shot.

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Speaker 3: Whatever the worst category is in this the Browns and

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Speaker 2: In completely agree.

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Speaker 3: They're not the same as the Titan.

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Speaker 2: I'm shocked the Titans are in this rebuild Tier two

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Speaker 2: they have eight draft picks.

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Speaker 3: Are only these two teams in.

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Speaker 2: This Only these two teams are in the middle of

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Speaker 3: I would take the Browns out, throw them in whatever

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Speaker 2: I think the Titans could be sneaky good trajectory, but

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Speaker 2: hit on a couple drains. A long way to go

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Speaker 2: they do, you know, I mean, that's three or four

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Speaker 3: But it's funny because we've seen this so much recently.

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Speaker 3: Were these teams that picked in the top five not

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Speaker 3: We just assume it's gonna happen every year. It still

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Speaker 2: And then four teams, this is no surprising teams here

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Speaker 3: Miami, Miami Jets.

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Speaker 2: The Jets, the Raiders, and the Arizona Cardinals, Yes, Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 3: They see their path even getting an okay quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That's you know, at least the Raiders have that potentially.

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Speaker 3: They have that feather in their castle.

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Speaker 2: And they have about ninety close to eighty eight million.

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Speaker 3: Dollars say, they're gonna look a lot different, which.

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Speaker 2: Could increase if they trade Max Crosby. They could have

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Speaker 2: go with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Raiders are gonna have a much different roster

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Speaker 2: Of these four bottom of the barrel. And I think

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Speaker 3: And maybe this includes the Browns, Brown, Cardinals, Dolphins, Jets. Maybe,

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Speaker 3: I mean, and I'm stretching. They land Willis and he

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Speaker 3: is really good. You know, they've been Miami's been linked

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Speaker 3: him because they hired a bunch of agreed yes, you know.

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Speaker 2: And Miami has twenty seven and a half million in

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Speaker 2: cap space, eight draft picks.

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Speaker 3: They'll make more too.

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Speaker 2: They have Rasul Douglas listed as their top free agent,

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Speaker 2: which I guess. I mean, hey, you're not losing much,

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Speaker 2: another one of those guys who was a great Mountaineer

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Speaker 2: for a quick turnaround is listed as a chain is

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Speaker 2: really good. Aaron Brewer is maybe the best center in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a good start.

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Speaker 2: They're in a quarterback purgatory and they're nearly twenty eight

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Speaker 2: million dollars over.

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Speaker 3: They have money problems.

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Speaker 2: Last Matt and maybe least the New York Jets. Good

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Speaker 2: news is they do have almost fifty nine million dollars

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Speaker 2: in cap space, eight draft picks and some good ones. Yes,

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Speaker 3: But that's about line. Garrett Wilson, Reese Hall. Maybe they'll franchise,

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Speaker 2: He'll be on the downwards stuff of his trajectory by then.

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Speaker 3: Maybe a Mason Taylor's okay, I mean some of the

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Speaker 2: Next year, I think it would be a three horse

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Speaker 3: Prison at least has some good players.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, just to be Devil's advocate in this conversation,

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Speaker 2: what if Justin Field's played okay for the Jets all season.

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Speaker 3: And maybe a new coach get more out.

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Speaker 2: Instead of winning three games, they win six games as possible,

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Speaker 2: two games, they win five games. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: He'll be back with them or not, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I bet they do something else. I think Kyler could

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's just shuffling the chairs on the titan

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Speaker 2: and it's all going down anyways. But polishing the brass

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Speaker 2: on the Titanic? Is that the phrase I'm looking for?

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Speaker 3: You get it? And they this is what their goal

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Speaker 3: is when you trade Sauce and quinnin these next two drafts.

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Speaker 3: If you can hit on, if you can really hit

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Speaker 3: on two drafts in a row coming up, and you're right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you could be back, but it's gonna be a while.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a long yeah, not fun process.

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Speaker 2: A lot of these teams have a clear path. It

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Speaker 2: might be a long one, but it's a clear one

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Speaker 3: They have a plan.

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Speaker 2: We got the cap space, we have the draft capital.

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Speaker 2: We need a quarterback. You have a plan, but everyone

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Speaker 2: like Tyson in the NFL. You get punched in the

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Speaker 3: They probably have a rough year. Hope they get in

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Speaker 3: the Arch. You end up with in the same situation

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Speaker 3: the Raiders right now, you know, March for Arch. But

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Speaker 3: as soon as we get no. When they've ever drafted

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Speaker 2: On, hold on, hold on. Quarterbacks. Oh quarterback, ye yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean come on the Bricks show. Ferguson was kind

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Speaker 3: Yours what I'm talking about, Like any quarterback they've ever

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Speaker 2: Bart Scott was pretty good. That Darrelle Revis guy probably

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Speaker 3: No, you're right, quarterbacks, I mean even like Hackenberg in

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Speaker 2: It's tough, but some teams make it seem even tougher

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Speaker 2: when we come back on the other side Matt daily

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Speaker 2: every year of who they think are the true number

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Speaker 2: one first round grade player. It's a lower number this year,

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Speaker 2: has it compared to usual? What's that mean for the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Matt, we are what here about ten days away from

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Speaker 2: arriving in Indianapolis for the twenty twenty six NFL Combine. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: which really kicks off draft season.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting prety psyched.

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Speaker 2: I am too. You and I It's like we've been

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Speaker 2: having a lot of conversations kind of gearing up for it.

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Speaker 2: The two of us are our guy, Tyler V and

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Speaker 2: in the legend Mike Persuda will all be making the

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Speaker 2: trip together and so just a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Mic psyched to be his first Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And listen, I'm not trying to like be the the

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Speaker 2: let's rip on the old guy, but like Mike's been

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Speaker 2: doing this for a long time and oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: longer than I've been alive. And this is his first

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Speaker 2: time covering a car.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's I've been doing draft coverage with him

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Speaker 3: the last couple of years and he's into that. It

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Speaker 3: may'll be great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it's It's one of the things actually

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Speaker 2: that I really admire about Pursuda. You and I have

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Speaker 2: had this conversation before. We are so fortunate, all of

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Speaker 2: us to do what we do for a living, but

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Speaker 2: it can still be work. You can still get jaded

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Speaker 2: by it when it's the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Took aware on you. Yeah, you're right, right, just like

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Speaker 3: any job.

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Speaker 2: Pursuit has been doing this for forty years and he

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Speaker 2: still gets so jacked up about everything. I love it,

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Speaker 2: Like he really loves this stuff and it shows. And

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Speaker 2: so yeah, we're gonna have some fun when we get

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Speaker 2: out to Indianapolis, and obviously that will really really kick

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Speaker 2: off draft season. But we've been doing some discussion every

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Speaker 2: day here on the show around the NFL Draft and

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Speaker 2: Matt there was an interesting article on ESPN from Matt

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Speaker 2: Miller that caught my eye this morning. He basically every

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Speaker 2: year goes through the draft classes and grades how many

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Speaker 2: guys he thinks are true first round grades. Cott, Who's

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Speaker 2: because obviously there's thirty two first round picks.

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Speaker 3: It's time to have this conversation. I think I've I've

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Speaker 3: had this conversation every year that I've hosted the Drive

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Speaker 3: right about when we get ready to go to the

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Speaker 3: combine and we have more listeners than ever welcome. That's

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Speaker 3: Awesome's read the word subscribe all that stuff, but there's

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Speaker 3: never Now, every team is their own grading system, but

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Speaker 3: they're all very similar. Contrary to popular belief, most teams

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Speaker 3: don't be let aren't like these are first rounders. That's

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Speaker 3: a seventh rounder. They're like this is a six to

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Speaker 3: eighth with a letter grade by them for injury concerns

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Speaker 3: or size concerns or whatever. And they also will build

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Speaker 3: a board like this is a quarterback column, running back column,

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Speaker 3: but then they're the horizontal board is just as important,

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Speaker 3: Like there might be Mendoza gap gap gap gap gap

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Speaker 3: next quarterback, and there might be five running backs next

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Speaker 3: to them. Yes, so it all turns into itself. You'll

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Speaker 3: see where the value is and necessarily but it's not

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Speaker 3: like I'm gonna give first round grades. But anyway that

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Speaker 3: being said, if there were true first round grades, most

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Speaker 3: there's never thirty two. There's thirty two that will get picked,

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Speaker 3: but there's never thirty two that Basically, any year you

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Speaker 3: come out your first round pick grade, and maybe there's

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Speaker 3: something that's off the field that would keep you from

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Speaker 3: going in the first round, but first round player grade

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Speaker 3: there's usually I would say eighteen sixteen, maybe the good draft,

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Speaker 3: the Joe alt Nicks Caleb draft. Maybe there was eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Was that twenty three?

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Speaker 3: I'm really bad at that, but I think he said.

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Speaker 2: The most the beefiest recent years. In twenty twenty three

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Speaker 2: he had twenty, and twenty twenty four he had eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Those are the biggest years in recent history.

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Speaker 3: Now this year, i'm sure is down.

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Speaker 2: Last year was thirteen, This year is eleven.

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Speaker 3: That totally adds up because there's also like the blue

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Speaker 3: chip guys you know, like that are studs and they're

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Speaker 3: going to go early every draft, you know. And I

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Speaker 3: also think this year there's low on blue chip guys.

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Speaker 2: I think the pat last year and this year low

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Speaker 2: on blue chips. Yes, a lot of those one of

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Speaker 2: those next tier guys that you really like. That group

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Speaker 2: feels beefier yes, but the five star recruits feel thinner.

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Speaker 3: Yes. Now, to spin this the Steelers, let's operate under

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Speaker 3: the assumption that there's on average sixteen to eighteen true

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Speaker 3: first rounders every year. Generally speaking. I did a study

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Speaker 3: after Kevin Colbert retired the pick the Steelers earned while

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Speaker 3: Kevin was in charge of the front office, because remember

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Speaker 3: he was not general.

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Speaker 2: I've heard this from you before, but it's good.

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Speaker 3: I think it was twenty four point one overall. Is

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Speaker 3: that that doesn't mean they end up picking there. You

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Speaker 3: could trade up for Bush or whatever.

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Speaker 2: You could trade back on average, on average.

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Speaker 3: Twenty fourth pick, which basically means you got in the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: often won a game in the playoffs. There was a

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Speaker 3: Furrist year that was lower. There's a Super Bowl win

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Speaker 3: where you're thirty two, you know, right, But if you

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Speaker 3: didn't have a first round pick that year, it still

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Speaker 3: counts like the year that Claypool was our first pick.

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Speaker 3: You still put that in the equation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty one.

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Speaker 3: I'm not putting fifty one in the equation. To bring

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Speaker 3: it up, it's wherever they would have been in the

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Speaker 3: first round, where if Miami end up picking or whatever.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I mean gotcha wherever they traded Menka's picks,

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Speaker 3: you know, so it's the spot you earned, you know,

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Speaker 3: like gotcha. So think about that though, I mean, if

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Speaker 3: almost every year you don't even get a chance at

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Speaker 3: a first round pick, you know, like the Patriots during

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Speaker 3: that stretch too, I mean you don't even get the

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Speaker 3: you never get the Blue Chippers, and you never are

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Speaker 3: in a spot to even get one of the first rounders. Now,

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Speaker 3: that doesn't mean they'll be the If there's eleven on

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Speaker 3: here or twelve you said, that doesn't mean they'll be

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Speaker 3: the eleventh.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they're not going to go one through eleven in

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Speaker 2: the draft.

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Speaker 3: You might get one at thirteen or fourteen, but you

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Speaker 3: won't a twenty. Sure, you know what I mean. But

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Speaker 3: just think about that. I mean, if there's if the

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Speaker 3: world looks at it like there's eleven first round picks,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Steelers aren't going to get one of them

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Speaker 3: this year. But Kevin never did and really Omar hasn't

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Speaker 3: been much different. It's not like they've been picking five

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Speaker 3: and six. They never do.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, like almost it almost feels like the only

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Speaker 2: one of the eleven on this list that you would

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Speaker 2: have a chance at is Jeremiah Love just because the

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Speaker 2: back position.

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Speaker 3: Right right right, maybe, But so so let's go through

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Speaker 3: these the fact that there's so few first, make the

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Speaker 3: chance that Love is going to go higher than usual.

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Speaker 2: You know, good point in some of these years where

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Speaker 2: they're eighteen or twenty.

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Speaker 3: The back Mike fall to first pick of the second

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Speaker 3: roundy right, right, right right.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely one quarterback. I don't think that shocks us. Fernando Mendoza,

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Speaker 2: he has him ranked number two overall, number one for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: And I think any year he came out, he would

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Speaker 3: be eight ten for Yeah, like I preferred Ward, I preferred,

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Speaker 3: definitely preferred May Daniels and Caleb, but he would have

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Speaker 3: been the fourth quarterback taken that year, ahead of Nix

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Speaker 3: or Pennix or McCarthy, which.

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Speaker 2: Still yeah, yeah, yeah, totally yeah. Even if he came

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Speaker 2: out like the Joe Burrow year, he's still going round two,

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Speaker 2: you know, right. One running back Jeremiah Love out of

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame, who he has ranked as the number one

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Speaker 2: overall player in the draft.

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Speaker 3: I totally understand that I would have Reese as the

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Speaker 3: number one player in the draft, but I understand.

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Speaker 2: It he has re let's see real quick, number four

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Speaker 2: overall player.

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Speaker 3: In the draft. We'll get to him in a minute.

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Speaker 2: So one quarterback Mendoza, one running back Jeremiah Love. Two

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Speaker 2: wide receivers mki Same, Mikay Lemon and Carnell Tait. I'm

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Speaker 2: shocked that Jordan Tyson is not is not on there. Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 2: this is one guy's opinion. You know, I really like

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Speaker 2: Jordan Tyson, and the parameters.

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Speaker 3: Are high to say he is a definite first round

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Speaker 3: but I think caliber like these two guys have questions

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Speaker 3: with them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Tyson's noticeably worse than these guys.

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Speaker 2: That that was my surprise. If you're going to have

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Speaker 2: both of these guys as first round grades, I would

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Speaker 2: think Tyson would be in that mix too. But whatever.

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Speaker 2: He has Lemon as the eighth overall best prospect, Tait

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Speaker 2: as the ninth. That's a little rich, but yeah, I

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Speaker 2: like it. If there's more people that are higher on

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Speaker 2: some of these top wide receiver prospects, I'm I got

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Speaker 2: no problem with them.

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Speaker 3: Like like Dane mentioned the other day that he had

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Speaker 3: Tech McMillan ahead of all three of these receivers, which

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Speaker 3: I understand, but Teed would be on this list for sure, Yes,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yes, one quarterback, one running back, two wide receivers, one

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Speaker 2: tight end. Kenyon Sadik out of Oregon, who we've discussed plenty.

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Speaker 2: He has him ranked as the eleventh best player in

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Speaker 2: this draft.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wonder how these draftnicks would compare Sadiq to

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Speaker 3: the prospect that was Pits, Bowers, Warren Warren Loveland.

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Speaker 2: That's something will last yeah, yeah, yeah when we're out there.

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Speaker 3: And it won't apply to the Steelers. But I'm curious

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Speaker 3: if you were to everybody does it with quarterbacks. I

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Speaker 3: just did, like I'd have Warrant, I'd have Mendoza behind ward,

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Speaker 3: but ahead of these guys. I wonder if you were

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Speaker 3: to rank them as prospects Loveland versus Pits versus you know,

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Speaker 3: all those guys, because there's been a lot of first

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Speaker 3: round tight ends later it's not so uncommon anymore.

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Speaker 2: One offensive tax, Francis wow Mauiga out of Miami, fifth

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Speaker 2: overall prospect. I'm surprised Fawn New's not in there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but just one at offensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: And last twenty four hours. Brandon Thorne has his own

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Speaker 3: podcast and only does o line. Yes, and he had

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Speaker 3: day on and I.

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Speaker 2: Think I'm gonna have to wait it was that this week? Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to listen.

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Speaker 3: To one that I think they said they had first

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Speaker 3: round grades on three of them. Okay, Fawn New for sure.

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Speaker 3: I don't pronounce it, by the way, it's Louis.

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Speaker 2: Is it it is? It is Louis?

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Speaker 3: Heard that one in the last twenty.

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Speaker 2: Different movies, I've gotten Titanic, Avatar, and now Monty Python

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Speaker 2: references on Sturday. Let's see if we can get another

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Speaker 2: movie reference in here before we get out of here.

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Speaker 3: But I think they had three tackles, Oh no, the

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Speaker 3: three offensive linemen, the guard from Penn State as well.

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Speaker 2: Is it really Louis? Hold on? This is blowing my

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Speaker 2: mind now.

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Speaker 3: I think it's Louis is not Louise.

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Speaker 2: It's not for Frand is this guy from Nice or Pierre.

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Speaker 3: I think it's pronounced the way you would pronounce l

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Speaker 3: E W.

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Speaker 2: I E Louis, like Louis Kyle Louis, Yeah, right right right.

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Speaker 3: Like Louis to Palma. You would know that is it's

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Speaker 3: the veto and Taxi.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I have you know that's before taxi. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're talking to me. Zero interior offensive line ranked by

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Speaker 2: him his first I'm surprised the state. I'm surprised that

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Speaker 2: Vega from Penn State isn't there. But again, this is

659
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Speaker 2: this is just one man's exercise, one man's opinion.

660
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 3: What I've seen. And again he's further along draft other

661
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: than me and Matt Miller is. But I think he's

662
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: missing that one. I think Ioni goes the first round

663
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: every year, and that's not easy to say for a guard.

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Speaker 2: No, it is not two edge rushers, No surprise here.

665
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Speaker 2: David Bailey out of Texas Tech number six over all,

666
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: a Ruben Bain junior out of Miami, number ten overall.

667
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: Okay, usually there's more, though usually pretty low. Right.

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00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, zero defensive tackles. Matt zero interior defensive lineman

669
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Speaker 2: with a first round grade. He said, Peter Woods is close,

670
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: Lee Hunter's close, Caleb Banks is close.

671
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: I understand it, though they all got concerns, but that the.

672
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: They are, you know, none of them is the kind

673
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: of you know, the clear cut prospect.

674
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Speaker 3: One of them. And this is true for all positions.

675
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Speaker 3: After the combine. This list might change by two players

676
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Speaker 3: or whatever.

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00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, two off ball linebackers, which feels like

678
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: it's that's probably much more than most there's most years

679
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: there's probably zero or.

680
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: One yes, And there's an argument for three.

681
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: The two Ohio State guys RVL Reese of course, and

682
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: Sonny Styles.

683
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: And Allen from Georgia jegas a really strong prospect the

684
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: lineback This is a whole different conversation because I don't

685
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: quite know what to do with Queen because you would

686
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: get a lot of cap relief and he's only on

687
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: content for one more year. You could trade him, you

688
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: could cut him. I'd lean towards I want to see

689
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: what this staff can do with him. And frankly, that's

690
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: what I think of all defensive things is let's see

691
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: what this staff can do with them. Ramsey, Queen, et cetera.

692
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Speaker 3: But this is a really good linebacker draft, like the

693
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Speaker 3: best one in a long time. Off the ball gut.

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Speaker 2: Four or five guys taken in the top fifty. Eh.

695
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's depth too, I mean that's rare. Like

696
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: I kind of thought differently about like Hulcombe, where I

697
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: originally thought he's a good third. Bring him back and

698
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: that'd be fine. I have no problem against Cole Hulcombe.

699
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: But now I'm like, if you can get a third

700
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Speaker 3: round linebacker in the fourth round, don't give Hulcombe that money. Yeah,

701
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Speaker 3: and if Queen leaves after this year, it might be

702
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Speaker 3: him and Wilson. Yeah, yeah, I might want to dip

703
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: my toe in that linebacker draft situation.

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Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. This is shocking tune.

705
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: You don't see it very often. Zero cornerbacks, Matt, that's

706
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Speaker 2: like unheard of shocking. Now he does say Jama McCoy

707
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: from Tennessee would have fit this bill last year, but

708
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: he missed the entire year with that ACL injury.

709
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Speaker 3: So let's say he goes to combine and runs a

710
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 3: four to three flat, He's gonna be back. He'll be

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Speaker 3: back in that list.

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Speaker 2: I would think he if he was able to come

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Speaker 2: out last year, which he wasn't because he was a

714
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Speaker 2: true sophomore.

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Speaker 3: So you know, kind of shocked Delaney's not though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's very impressive. Yeah, I mean, he

717
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: was good at Virginia Tech Man and then he took

718
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: off at LSU last year on a bad LSU team.

719
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: Like he might not go ahead of Stingley or Sauce

720
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: or Patrick Peterson or Ramsey that all went like top five,

721
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: but I.

722
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: Kind of feelishing Gonzalez territory.

723
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think he'd go in the middle of

724
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Speaker 3: the first round just about any draft.

725
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Speaker 2: He came out, only guy in the secondary. Then one safety.

726
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: No shocker here Caleb Downs out of Ohio State, who

727
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: he has ranked as the third best prospect in the stress. Yeah,

728
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: it's an easy one, very very.

729
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 3: From the ware he'll fall. But he's a first round

730
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Speaker 3: prospect all day long.

731
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Speaker 2: I think I might ask you this, and this is

732
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: probably a very easy yes. But if I said to

733
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Speaker 2: you right now the downs for your twenty first overall pick,

734
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: your answer would be.

735
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Speaker 3: It is a yes. But then your team build and

736
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: everything it would have such a like that Omar might

737
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: get mad at me if you say yes, you know

738
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 3: what I mean, like I got all this plan, shaking

739
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: his head out of it right, Like that's I need

740
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: that to be a receiver so I can make this plan,

741
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: because then all the dominoes.

742
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: Fall, your dominoes.

743
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 3: But would you Now I got to cut Ramsey and

744
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: then I got to use that money somewhere else.

745
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 2: If I can tell you, he's like Paulamalu ed Reed

746
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 2: Sean Taylor type safety. Would you be willing Yeah, he's

747
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: the most likely guy in this class to be a

748
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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer.

749
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Speaker 3: One you say yes, right and figure it out from there,

750
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: live in Big Nickel or you know, yeah, here's a

751
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: great player. Figure it out.

752
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be very interested to see where he Him

753
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: and Jeremiah Love are the two real Where these guys

754
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: land and how does that affect everything.

755
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 3: Right behind them in terms of weird position but great prospect.

756
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: You know, let's take our last break here. We'll close

757
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: down with a few of your tweets before we get

758
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Speaker 2: out of here. On the other side, West Huuler, Matt Williamson,

759
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Speaker 2: It's the Drive on Friday the thirteenth, the Nation Radio

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00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

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00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

762
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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

763
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: Final segment here, Matt, and as we have been doing

764
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Speaker 2: and will continue to do, we close it down with

765
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Speaker 2: audience participation on the ex Twitter. But first, how about

766
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: some participation from our video producer Tyler V.

767
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Speaker 3: I'm glad he chimed in.

768
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 2: He basically said we were both idiots about our Larry

769
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: Bird coaching and.

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Speaker 3: That was all made. I may want to throw it out.

771
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you didn't stop me. But I thought he

772
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 3: was a bad coach. I sure wasn't.

773
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: But when you said that, I was like, yeah, that's right,

774
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: I remember that, And he sure was not. He was

775
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: only a coach for three years, Larry Bird, and in

776
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: those three years took the Indiana Pacers to the Eastern

777
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: Conference Finals, the Eastern Conference Finals, and the NBA Finals. Yeah,

778
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: finished second, first, and first in his division. Every year,

779
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: it's pretty good. And one in three years, one two

780
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: seven playoff series in three years he did everything but

781
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: win a championship.

782
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: I guess he was just fine, which actually makes me

783
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: happy because, like I said, you love Larry Bird. He

784
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: was my favorite player. Is that was like when Magic

785
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 3: and Berger one of the things Steelers or Pittsford didn't

786
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 3: have a team. I played a lot of pickup hoops.

787
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: He was my favorite dude. And then one year when

788
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: we were at Combay, my family bought a bird that

789
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, the only way we can have it is

790
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 3: by name Himlarry Larry Bird, Larry the Bird.

791
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: Sometimes if you listen to Matt's Basement podcasts, you can

792
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: hear all apologies to Larry Legend. First, Yeah, believe that actually.

793
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: Makes me happy. I didn't want to remember him as

794
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: a bad coach.

795
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: The track record of any coach that didn't win a

796
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: championship ever three years as a coach, you go to

797
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: at least the conference finals.

798
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 3: Every years, pretty good start.

799
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, much better than Wayne Gretzky, who don't look up.

800
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 2: He really was to look up. His records as the

801
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: head coach is bad. Let's close this thing down with

802
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 2: some tweets here. We got about seven or eight minutes

803
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 2: left in the program. John tweets us and said, would

804
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: love to hear your guys' thoughts on this take, and

805
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: he call it. Tweets it with Bill Barnwell saying it

806
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: would make sense for the Steelers to trade Nick Herbig

807
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: for Eagles backup quarterback Tarnor McKee.

808
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: I'm glad McKee's name came up because we did that

809
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: list of anyone that started a game, and he was like,

810
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: super terrible.

811
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: But they love him in Philadelphia.

812
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: I think he only started one or two games and

813
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: he didn't play well, and that's when kind of the

814
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: wheels were off. I think he's one of the best

815
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: thirty five quarterbacks out there, and I could even see

816
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: a scenario they do love him. I could see a

817
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: scenario where they get sick of Hurts and they put

818
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: McKee in, they trade Hurts, they put McKee in and

819
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 3: draft another guy in the second round and see how

820
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: it goes. That being said that, I'm not gonna if

821
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 3: I were the Steelers, that wouldn't be my target. No, yeah,

822
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean.

823
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: Not for Nick Herbig especially.

824
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 3: I mean if you want to say, trade a fifth

825
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: round pick for McKee or fourth round pick for McKee, okay,

826
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: and Rudolph in a fourth Okay. I'm not getting rid

827
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: of her Big really for anything, unless it would be.

828
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: A clear cut franchise quarterbacks.

829
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give you her Big in a one for

830
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: that guy. But I mean not for I would I

831
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: would never consider that.

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00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 2: I completely agree. And I know how much in Philida

833
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: and Philadelphia they think of Tanner McKee. They think he

834
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: could be a starter in a lot of places in

835
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: the NFL. But I'm not They might be right, they

836
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: might be, but I'm not giving them Nick Herbig to

837
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: to take a bite at that apple. Andrew tweets us

838
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: and says, definitely glad to see a game manager coach

839
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: hired by Mike McCarthy, feels like when you're calling the plays,

840
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: trying to keep track of challenges and timeouts can't be easy. Also,

841
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: you know, trying to you know, look at the jumbo

842
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 2: tron and decide if you're going to Yeah, it makes

843
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. It's a ton of sense.

844
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: Rewind a segment one of our one. We hit that

845
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: pretty hard. But I think that's a smart move. And

846
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 3: it's kind of humble. Like you said, you know, I'm

847
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: not good at everything, can't be.

848
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: I think the best leaders in any walk of life

849
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 2: are the ones that admit and recognize their weaknesses.

850
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, because it's.

851
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: Very easy to do the pride thing. And I'm gonna all,

852
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: I'm the top dog and it's me and I can

853
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: do this.

854
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: But I'm the best in the organization at everything. What's

855
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: the chances?

856
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 2: It's very slim. Jake tweets and says, how about a

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00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: best of the West conversation about Pittsburgh favorites including restaurants, breweries, activities,

858
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: et cetera. I'm being selfish and wondering since I'm coming

859
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: to the Burg from out of town this weekend. Well,

860
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: welcome James. You know what men time Now, that kind

861
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: of makes it seem okay, I don't know, that makes

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00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: it seem like first time he's coming to town. If

863
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: he's restaurants and things to do, I don't know that.

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00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 3: I get a lot of those tweets like, Hey, I'm

865
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 3: coming to Pittsburgh, what should I do? And I never

866
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: respond to them because I don't take advantage of the

867
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: city as much as I should. And I've lived here

868
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: my old life, and it's like, I bet that sounds fun.

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00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: I know there's a million things I'm missing that are

870
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 3: fun in sound.

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00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, go to the Strip District.

872
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good start.

873
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: I mean, the Strip District is always a good start.

874
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: There's amazing food there, amazing restaurants, cool places the shop

875
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Speaker 2: if you want. Breweries love me, some fat heads love me.

876
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: Some gristhouse love me, some church brewworks love me. Some

877
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: hot farm. I could go on and on and on.

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00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh has fantastic breweries.

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Speaker 3: Do they compare to other cities? Yeah?

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00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, big time. Yeah. Activities and stuff like that. Again,

881
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: this time of year is tough because the weather and

882
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: everything like.

883
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: Starting to break a little. But the last month or

884
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: so it's been.

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Speaker 2: Normally i'd tell you Points State Park and do the incline.

886
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: But you know, although it is, the weather's breaking a

887
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: little bit at sunshine. Were summertime, i'd tell you to

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00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: go to a Buccos game. If it was not the

889
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: Olympic break, I'd tell you to go go to a

890
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: Penn's game. Yeah, yeah, go to the Strip District for sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's I'm sure there's more cultural things that

892
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: I would ever know. Amazing museums. The Warhol Museum is incredible.

893
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you know the Symphony better than anybody, you know, right, Yeah.

894
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Symphony has always got fun stuff going on. But

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00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: the thing for me, because you're that's just a tough

896
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Speaker 2: question of like I'm coming to Pittsburgh, what should I do?

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Speaker 3: I know, I ignore it every time someone tweets through that,

898
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: I feel like Strip District is always a good Everyone

900
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: will enjoy poker.

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00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: Something funny to do there in the Strip dis se

902
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: if it's kind of nice out and just you're outside,

903
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: you know.

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00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right. Troy tweets us and asks, do we

905
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: think Elsie Greenwood will ever make the Hall of Fame?

906
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 3: Maybe. I mean, I thought he had a pretty strong case.

907
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: I don't know how long the veteran. I don't how

908
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 3: many times can he be up for what he was

909
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 3: up for this year? I don't know that rule. Will

910
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: he eternally be a final qualist? I think eventually they

911
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: I do.

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00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: Think eventually they pull you off, because I was gonna say,

913
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: if they do another one of those, remember a few

914
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: years ago they did the jumbo clap for the NFL centennial.

915
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.

916
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 3: Or they put like twenty guys in.

917
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: Yes, they do something like that again. I think Elsie

918
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: would have a great chance. Yes, but in like the

919
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 2: current format, it's gonna be tough.

920
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 3: It makes you think, like, Okay, so he competed with

921
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: Anderson and Craig, So one of those guys is out

922
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: of the equation. Is he just gonna fight Ken Anderson

923
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: next year for that honor? And then Ken Anderson gets in?

924
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: And then is he the leader in the Clubhiles? Does

925
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: you just have to really wait three years and eventually

926
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 3: he's in. I don't know, eventually if he keeps getting

927
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: that final final, if there he's allowed to keep doing that,

928
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

929
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, A couple more here, Cody tweets and says, with

930
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: less and less underclassman declaring for the NFL draft, is

931
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: the value of six and seventh rounders worse than it's

932
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: ever been.

933
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's been the case for a while. Yeah, Yeah,

934
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: I think that's true.

935
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Speaker 2: I think that's definitely true.

936
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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see here now that there's a flip side

937
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: to that. I mean, there's way fewer underclassman in the draft,

938
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Speaker 3: but the seniors should be better. Doesn't seem like they are, No,

939
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: And I'm not one hundred percent sure why.

940
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Speaker 2: Well, because you get a lot of guys that at

941
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: twenty three twenty four can bulldly eighteen and nineteen year

942
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: olds and one of year olds in college football, but

943
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: again they can get to the NFL and it's all

944
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: grown men.

945
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

946
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: Annie tweets and says, are there positions that are generally

947
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: better to draft verse acquiring during free agency? I imagine

948
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: you know, it varies based on season by season, but

949
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 2: just in general, yeah, absolutely.

950
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Offense tackles the best.

951
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: Tackles A great example, Quarterbacks a great example.

952
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean high demand positions when they hit ye, right,

953
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: you're usually overspent.

954
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: You want to try and draft those guys. I supposed

955
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: to outbid.

956
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: For them, but it helps when you're picking in the

957
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 3: neighborhood where you get the true first rounders.

958
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: Let's see here. Tyler tweets and says, curious on your

959
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 2: MAT's thoughts on moving Day two draft picks. I really

960
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 2: like the idea of getting an early second round pick

961
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Speaker 2: and getting maybe someone like max E Nhure, or maybe

962
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: trading some threes to get a two for next year.

963
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 3: I think a three for a two next year is

964
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Speaker 3: something that you should strongly consider.

965
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Speaker 2: Have three of them in someone wants to give you two, absolutely.

966
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and now we'll see how the draft goes. You

967
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: win the clock, you might be like, I can't believe

968
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: this guy's still here. You trade one of them for

969
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: AJ Brown or you know what I mean. But in general,

970
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: I definitely think, well, I know they won't make what

971
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Speaker 3: do they schedule make either twelve or thirteen picks right now?

972
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Speaker 3: I bet they make nine or ten, I hope. So yeah, yeah,

973
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Speaker 3: So I bet there's maybe a trade up this year,

974
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Speaker 3: and that might be a fifth going up to the

975
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Speaker 3: fourth I'm talking about trading, or it.

976
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Speaker 2: Could be moving up from twenty one to eighteen.

977
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'll give you a third and

978
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Speaker 3: a fifth to do it or whatever. And I bet

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Speaker 3: they at least add I would bet everything I have

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Speaker 3: that they at least add one future pick storing the

981
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Speaker 3: draft or leading up to the draft.

982
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Speaker 2: I think it would make a ton of sense.

983
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Speaker 3: Yeah, in some capacity, folks.

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Speaker 2: We got to go. A bunch more good tweets from Lou,

985
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Speaker 2: from Frankie, from Irwin. We'll get to those, Coco, We'll

986
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Speaker 2: get to you next week. Don't worry. I've got them bookmarked.

987
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Speaker 2: We've got plenty of time before we get to the

988
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Speaker 2: NFL Draft because most of these are draft and free

989
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: agency and related questions. But that will do it for

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Speaker 2: us for today. Matt, big thanks to Leo McCafferty for

991
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Speaker 2: joining us to talk about the football town. That was

992
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Speaker 2: a lot of fun. I hope, I hope he's somebody

993
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Speaker 2: that we can kind of cross paths and stay in

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Speaker 2: touch with moving forward. Big shout out of it. It

995
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Speaker 2: was big shout out as always the Tyler V on

996
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: the video side of things, and our resident Larry Bird

997
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: Scholar for keeping us on our toes here and looking

998
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Speaker 2: good on YouTube every single day. For Matt Williamson. I'm

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Speaker 2: Wes Shuler. Take care, everybody, enjoy the Valentine's Day weekend,

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Speaker 2: and we'll be back on Monday too. Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say talk about it, but I don't.

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Speaker 2: It's not like it's a key. We'll be back on

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Speaker 2: Monday to talk about something, all right, Wes Yuler, Matt Williamson,

1004
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Speaker 2: take care. We'll talk to you next week. It's been

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Speaker 2: the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network