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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, hel, I'm ghosted. I gos Nandas Please

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Speaker 1: Hey boo, it's me Raz and welcome to Ghosted by

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Speaker 1: Raz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that

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Speaker 1: These people are a real life married couple, Greg and

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Speaker 1: Dana Newkirk. Now, in my personal opinion, they are the

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Speaker 1: very much. They are paranormal investigators and they get weird

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Speaker 1: with it. They don't just stick to ghosts, honey, They're

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Speaker 1: talking any kind of weird, unexplainable thing. They have their

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Speaker 1: own haunted museum. It is called the Traveling Museum of

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Speaker 1: the World Famous Paranormal and Occult.

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Speaker 2: You gotta check out everything that they do.

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Speaker 1: They have a show called Hellier where they're looking for

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Speaker 1: goblins and shit. Now, I will say, because I'm sure

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start getting emails of people either pitching

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Speaker 1: the past year or two, where I'm having mainly comedians on,

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Speaker 1: and I think occasionally, and I'm talking like once a year,

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Speaker 1: I so appreciate people's interest in having different guests on

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Speaker 1: I just I just like laughing a lot. And I've

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Speaker 1: on some of my favorite ghost hunters, and they're always

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Speaker 1: welcome back, honestly because the perspective that these two bring

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Speaker 1: I just everything about it. I just I'm huge, huge

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Speaker 1: fans of the New Kirks. Before we get to them,

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Speaker 1: let me read you a story.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this one right here.

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Speaker 1: This comes from Claire, who writes Dear Roz. Several years ago,

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Speaker 1: I was visiting my boyfriend in Rio de Janeiro Claire.

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Speaker 1: That is a brag right there. Oh my god, you

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Speaker 1: We arrived at our room, which was decorated with tapestry

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Speaker 1: My boyfriend, Yeah, tell us more about him. My boyfriend,

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Speaker 1: When we checked out, we asked the clerk about the

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Speaker 1: Now anytime something strange happens, I now ask.

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Speaker 2: RAFAELO, is that you love the show? See Claire Woo.

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Speaker 1: That is so weird moving paintings and shit, these ghosts.

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Speaker 1: I love hearing stories like this. I'm hearing all kinds

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Speaker 1: sending in these stories. I love them so much. Just

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Speaker 1: send them to my email ghosted by ras at gmail

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Speaker 1: something you want, you know, to come on the show

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Speaker 1: in a listener episode and talk to me about. Please

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Speaker 1: just write small bullet points. And when I say bullet points,

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Speaker 1: I mean like one sentence like, give me an idea.

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Speaker 1: My house was haunted. I saw this, I saw that.

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Speaker 2: You know that kind of a thing. I don't need if.

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Speaker 1: It's a full long backstory, honey, I I don't got time.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk to Greg and data and with the show.

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Speaker 2: You guys.

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Speaker 1: A haunted object has appeared in my zoom feed and

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Speaker 1: inside the contents are Greg and Tana new Kirk.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Hello, I'm obsessed with you guys. I'm so happy that

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Speaker 4: Same, we're obsessed with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want you guys to just adopt me.

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Speaker 4: And immediately, immediately you can come and live with all

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Speaker 4: the creepy haunted things.

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Speaker 3: We'll drop the paperwork. We do. We have cats.

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Speaker 4: I'm also Canadians, so you can become Canadian if you want.

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Speaker 4: It's a package deal. We've got a good escape plan.

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Speaker 3: Really selling you on the purpose.

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Speaker 1: Well, how are you guys? We're ti, Well, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: stop busy. Why are you so tired now? You're a

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Speaker 3: No, we we've been doing meetings. We've got so many projects,

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Speaker 3: We're planning a new one for this fall that's going

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Speaker 3: to be even bigger. We just don't know how to stop.

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Speaker 4: We're bad at that. I think if we stopped, we

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Speaker 1: That's probably well, that's what I love about you guys.

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Speaker 1: You're always coming up with something new. You're always figuring

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Speaker 4: Oh my, you that's like the nicest thing.

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Speaker 3: I think you're the first person to say this first.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: That's really important though, So thank you.

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Speaker 1: You guys make this stuff cool.

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Speaker 4: It takes one to know one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I brought one of my coolest friends to come

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Speaker 1: see you guys.

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Speaker 4: It's the best.

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Speaker 1: When we went to a screening of the unb your

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Speaker 1: This documentary was legit really good, it was shot really cool.

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Speaker 1: Both of us were like, yeah, I know, like even

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Speaker 3: That means so much. We try really hard to you

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Speaker 3: know that. Listen, we don't have to tell you. The

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Speaker 3: We got a butt plug in the mail. We did,

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Speaker 1: I was so like, first of all, I love your

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Speaker 1: Okay, So in this episode you're talking about how you

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Speaker 1: People try to steal it from you. Yeah, talk to

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Speaker 4: It's like a real life X Files episode that we

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Speaker 1: How do you just get your hands on something like that?

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Speaker 3: Though, basically we have a very broad definition when it

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Speaker 1: So in this collection, this Glenn Campbell collection, what is

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Speaker 3: To keep locked up?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's entirely possible, but it's strange coincidence.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't that make you terrified?

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Speaker 3: Terrified all the time. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We always say that it's people that are the scariest

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Speaker 3: Ro's variety is despite their life.

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Speaker 3: We've just learned to adapt to it.

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Speaker 4: I mean we get you know, we get lots of horrible,

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Speaker 3: It kind of feels like that a little. Yeah. I

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Speaker 3: I guess there's nothing we can do about it. Our

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Speaker 1: Do you guys feel like now at this point, like

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Speaker 3: No, No, I think We're always you know, we always

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Speaker 3: to it? Try talking to it? Like, no, I would

438
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: never do that. I would never do that. We're fine

439
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 3: to give people all the things that we've learned over

440
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 3: like thirty years of doing this, but we don't really

441
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: do house calls. I think ghosts are interesting, but my

442
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 3: views on them are so much different than they used

443
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 3: to be twenty years ago. And I always kind of

444
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 3: go to the psychology of it. And I'm a very

445
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 3: big fan of a guy by the name of Michael Persinger.

446
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 3: He was a doctor who died several years ago, but

447
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 3: he's the guy who invented the god helmet. And his

448
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 3: whole thing is that we're all connected, and we're all

449
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 3: connected by the Earth's magnetic field, just the same way

450
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 3: the animals are. And if that's true, you know he's

451
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: run calculations. It would take seven minutes to send a

452
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 3: thought up and have it downloaded somewhere else. And so

453
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 3: when I think of things like ghosts, the thing people

454
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: always say about them is they're here because they have

455
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: unfinished business. But I believe personally that they're here because

456
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 3: we have unfinished business. We haven't had time to grief,

457
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 3: and so maybe we're the ones calling Grandma down so

458
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: that we can say goodbye and we can get over

459
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 3: this thing. I think, you know a lot of hauntings

460
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 3: are triggered by grief, and they're triggered by trauma. Yeah,

461
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 3: if you know how to deal with that stuff and

462
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: maybe lead other people through that stuff like a good psychologist,

463
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: I mean they are called parapsychologists for a reason. I

464
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: think that you can find a lot of peace and

465
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: you won't be tormented by these things so much anymore.

466
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's an interesting way to think about

467
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 4: how the experience makes you feel. And I think that's

468
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 4: the thing that we forget to do a lot when

469
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 4: it comes to the paranormal, is like to kind of

470
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 4: check in with ourselves and go like, oh man, how

471
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 4: does this make me feel? And I think that in

472
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 4: the case of hauntings, it's this really beautiful opportunity to

473
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 4: sort of reflect on what you've experienced and see how

474
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 4: it relates to you as a person, and if it

475
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 4: is something that can help you through grief or through trauma,

476
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 4: or through any of the things that are often associated

477
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 4: with the myths and stories of ghosts. It's just this

478
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 4: really cool, beautiful opportunity. So I love hearing ghost stories.

479
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 4: They're one of my favorite things ever, because, in a

480
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 4: weird way, it's sort of like letting someone see your

481
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 4: tarot card reading or letting someone interpret a dream for you.

482
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 4: There's a sort of deeply personal element often involved in

483
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 4: the experience of seeing something like that. So it's always really,

484
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 4: really a cool thing. So I'm a big fan of

485
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 4: ghost stories. I love collecting the ghost stories as much

486
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 4: as we can.

487
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: Ghost stories will never go. Yeah, we just have other

488
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: interests too, Fran gentlemen and I think the other thing

489
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: we've found is the more that you explore other things,

490
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 3: the more that you explore things like psychic sciences and

491
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 3: you know, even cryptozoology or upology, you find that there's

492
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: so much crossover between what people are experiencing in these

493
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 3: different genres and they're not talking to each other enough

494
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 3: to know that. And I think if more of these

495
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: people were multidisciplinary, we'd find that a lot of this

496
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 3: stuff involves us in a very intrinsic way that is

497
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 3: very interesting, and you can learn to maybe define it

498
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: and decipher it and affect it in really interesting ways

499
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: if you know how.

500
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: Okay, this is like a ridiculous question, but.

501
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: Welcome to me. Is there like a theory or something

502
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: that you have tested enough times that you're like, I

503
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: always get the same result. And I think that this

504
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: is true when it comes to the paranormal, Like, is

505
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: there anything that you're super convinced on at this point?

506
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: I think right off the bat, is you get what

507
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: you give the location?

508
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

509
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: So I think if you come in you know the

510
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 3: type black T shirts, want to fight the those, you

511
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 3: know the type, you're gonna get that kind of experience. Yes,

512
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 3: If you go in with a very love and light vibe,

513
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: we're gonna send you to the light, you're gonna get

514
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 3: that kind of experience. If you go in want to

515
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: have fun and you just see what happens, you're gonna

516
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: get probably a weirder experience. That's at least in my experience,

517
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: that's been the case almost all the time. And there's

518
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 3: certain people you can have in the group that can

519
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: throw stuff off. We've all been in I don't know

520
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 3: Ouiji board sessions where there's a skeptic and then they

521
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: won't work. I think that there's certain people who've already

522
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: decided what they're going to experience. Other people have maybe

523
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 3: unknowingly decided what they're going to experience. It's why it's

524
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: important for us whenever we do a ghost hunt or

525
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: we lead a ghost hunt, we set our intentions the

526
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 3: first thing, what kind of experience do we want to have?

527
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: And we all meditate on that idea, and then we

528
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 3: do a little guided meditation and boom, we have that experien.

529
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're one hundred percent right. I think

530
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: that whatever intention you bring into the experiences will sort

531
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: of dictate what you're going to experience. And so I

532
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 4: think that's it's it's what you're bringing into the investigation.

533
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 4: Often you'll see it mirrored in some of the activity.

534
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: And so yeah, if you're going in super aggressive and

535
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 4: you want to fight demons and have that kind of

536
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 4: an experience, often you know those are the people who

537
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 4: will leave with scratches and all sorts of negative experiences.

538
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 4: And it's sort of in a lot of ways, it's

539
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: because they're sort of bringing that energy into the environment.

540
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: I think that's true with like living situations to like

541
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: anything like just go into someone's house and be like,

542
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: all right, who's the bitch that runs this place?

543
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 4: Like exactly.

544
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm a little bit like that, but

545
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: I think I'm more like miss Piggy about it, where

546
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm the diva and who else is the

547
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: Diva's here?

548
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: You know what kind of attention you deserve? Mm hmmm.

549
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Going back to your podcast, you are doing

550
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: another season, right.

551
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 3: We're working on it right now. Yeah, it'll be out

552
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: this year.

553
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: Okay, obviously everyone's gonna listen. But like, what are some

554
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: things we can look forward to? Like what are some

555
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: other objects?

556
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't spoil the objects, but I can give

557
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: you a sea genre he is of what there are?

558
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, whatever you're willing to give me.

559
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: We're going to be talking about pyramid power. We're going

560
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: to have some discussions about the alleged power of pyramid.

561
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to get like into that seventies spiritual era,

562
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: like lots of cocaine and chest hair, that kind of

563
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 4: like era, which I love.

564
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: I love that era.

565
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: There's going to be more of a focus on some

566
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 3: cryptozoological stuff. We have more bits.

567
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 4: We have lots of bits, and this season, yeah, with

568
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 4: Connor is our producer, our producer, Connor Randall. He's wonderful

569
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 4: and he's he has like the oldest child syndrome, so

570
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 4: he's very good at like bossing everybody around, but in

571
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: the loveliest way possible, and he's very He brought out

572
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 4: this side of us that we didn't think would make

573
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 4: it into the podcast. But he's very much about like

574
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 4: creating bits and like just little scenarios. So there's gonna

575
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: be a lot of those types of things which are fun.

576
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think people are going to It's basically what

577
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: the first season was, but now we're committed.

578
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

579
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: The first season was a test can we actually do this?

580
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: Will people actually listen? And we had such a good

581
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: time that it was it was just kind of a

582
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: no brainer to do it again.

583
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

584
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 4: The first season, we were really specific about how we

585
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 4: picked objects and we wanted everything to kind of feel

586
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 4: very much like you wouldn't really be able to sort

587
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 4: of guess from week to week, but it would have

588
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: a vibe. And so we're kind of trying to do

589
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 4: the same thing. It might not necessarily be what you're expecting.

590
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: What about the butt plug? Will that be getting an episode?

591
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: You know? It's funny. I actually I had a photo

592
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 3: of it when we did the live tour last year.

593
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: I had a photo of it in a selection of

594
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: the weirdest things people have ever sent us. Yeah, and

595
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: Connor pulled it out. Don't put this one in there.

596
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: There's gonna be families there we have.

597
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I love that. That's what he takes out

598
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 4: of a list of like a box of human hair,

599
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 4: uh bo bob, like a brigade. Yeah, And like we

600
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 4: we didn't know what it was, like, it's literally a grenade.

601
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. It's terrify.

602
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: It's a mortar shell. Yeah, that's what it is.

603
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 4: And somebody came up to us after like the first

604
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 4: or second stop on our tour and they were like,

605
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 4: it's fine, just don't drop it.

606
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: And we were like, oh my god, how can you

607
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: even send that?

608
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: They sent it through the mail for mail.

609
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

610
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: Ros. Do you want to hear a story we don't

611
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: tell very often.

612
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: Yes, what kind of question of that?

613
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: Speaking of weird things people sent us through the mail,

614
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: this is one of the weirdest. Couple of years ago,

615
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: somebody sent us a jade mask from Latin America and

616
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: said that their father was like a grave robber who

617
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: stole this thing and ever since has had runs of

618
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: bad luck, including like having his like health problems, particularly

619
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: with his feet. We found out later that's something that

620
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: this particular like like meso American god was known for performing. Yeah,

621
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: was like having problems with your feet. And they sent

622
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: this to us. I mean, I can't even imagine what

623
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: this must have cost. It's the value of this thing was.

624
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 3: I mean, it's genuinely heart palpitations and I when we

625
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: opened it up out of the package, it was just

626
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: shipped in like a flat rate box.

627
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it was authentic.

628
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: The first thing we did was like, Okay, where are

629
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: the repatriation. Yeah, we were like, we should like Smithsonian's

630
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: like repatriation. You know, this doesn't belong in a museum

631
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: like ours.

632
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 4: It should go back to its place of origin. And

633
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 4: considering it was taken illegally out of a temple or

634
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: something like that.

635
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: Oh god, that's a story anyway, allegedly, And you never

636
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 3: know when people send you stuff, you never know how

637
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: much of the story's true. But this person ended up

638
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: freaking out because their dad found out that they had

639
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: taken it. I thought this thing was all above board

640
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: and we had to send it back. We at least

641
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: put insurance on it. What sets it back, But they

642
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: didn't send it to us, and I just went, listen,

643
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,239
Speaker 3: this is your problem. We already promised this thing we

644
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: were going to help, like we were in the process.

645
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 4: We had like lists of places we were contacting, like

646
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 4: you said, to make sure it gets back to its

647
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 4: place of origin. And it just it was a very stressful,

648
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 4: weird experience.

649
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: That's stuff people sent us. People send it once time

650
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: we got a mask covered in human poop.

651
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, that happens.

652
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: That was a fun one. Just had a note that

653
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: said I'm sorry.

654
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: Okay now. When I sent that, I meant it in

655
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: a very flattering way. I as a fan of your work.

656
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to give you a piece of me.

657
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: I love it. I did order a polaroid from you.

658
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: Thank you.

659
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, tag it up in the studio.

660
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm honored.

661
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: So back to this jade mask and the curse of

662
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: it all. Yet, I know you guys have spoken about this.

663
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: Let's hear your thoughts on this stuff. The curses you

664
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: guys have kind of become curse people. You talk about

665
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: this stuff you're on unexplained. I remember, Oh God, we

666
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: should talk about that. Let's talk about it, curses.

667
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 3: It's funny. I think that people associate us with haunted objects,

668
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: so they associate us with curses and cursed objects. And

669
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 3: Dana's a witch, so people who ask her about curses.

670
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: And people send us a lot of objects that they

671
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: believe are cursed. We have books and statues and jewelry

672
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 4: and phones. We have a lot of bones.

673
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: You know. We get a lot of stuff in the

674
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: post office box, and we requested now they write whether

675
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 3: it's a haunted thing or not a haunted thing, because

676
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: sometimes people just send us gifts.

677
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

678
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 3: And one time we were in the car and Dana

679
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 3: rips this bag open after we'd gone to the post

680
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: office box and there's this beautiful ring inside.

681
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: Was like, oh my god, send me a ring. It's

682
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 4: my size. They even got my size. This is so nice.

683
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 4: And I put it on my finger and there was

684
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 4: a little tag hanging from the bottom of it, and

685
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: I flipped it over and it said, if you put

686
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 4: this ring on, you'll be dead in thirty days. Things

687
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 4: on my hands.

688
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

689
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: I started a timer.

690
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 4: Immediately, start a timer, count down thirty days to live.

691
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 4: I survived.

692
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: We think, yeah, it's like the movie The Ring, but ring.

693
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, a literally ring. Yeah, but yeah, we get a

694
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 4: lot of stuff like that. We get a lot of

695
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 4: cursed objects.

696
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: I think that your participation in the curse is necessary

697
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 3: for it to work. You have to believe that you

698
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 3: are cursed. You have to believe that you deserve that curse.

699
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: I think the best way to break a curse is

700
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 3: to just ignore it anything, laugh at it. Laughter's the

701
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: best exorcism, right, Yes, So if we can joke about

702
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: the cursed ring, there's no reason to believe that you

703
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: actually have a curse on you unless you participate in it. Yeah,

704
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: that's the dangerous party.

705
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 4: I think that's exactly it. The more energy and power

706
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 4: you give to it, the more it has the ability

707
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 4: to affect you on an unconscious and conscious level. I

708
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 4: think laughter kind of a lightheartedness about it and approaching it,

709
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 4: not necessarily from a skeptical standpoint, but just with the

710
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 4: understanding that we really do kind of set the tone

711
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: for those types of kind of currents of energy, and

712
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 4: so the more we feed into it, the more we

713
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 4: get scared of it, the more energy we're giving it,

714
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 4: the more it kind of has the ability to affect us.

715
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 4: So kind of deviating from it, laughing about it, finding

716
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: a way to be almost silly about it is a

717
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: really good way of sort of starting to remove any

718
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 4: of that energy that might be kind of, you know,

719
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 4: hanging around.

720
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 3: And from a skeptical perspective, we know the placebo effect

721
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: is real. Yeah, So whether you're whether you're a believer

722
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: or you're a skeptic, we can all see scientifically the

723
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: placebo effect is real. If you believe something works, it

724
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: will work for you. It's why we're so careful about

725
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: the kinds of stories that we tell, how we tell

726
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: these stories. There's stuff that we get that is allegedly

727
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: cursed and you can feel the bad vibes radiating off

728
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: of it. You know. There have been things that we've

729
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: received that have felt that way, and we've literally done

730
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: the ghostbusters to mood slime thing where we've just like

731
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 3: hugged it and kissed it and told it how much

732
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: we love it and it just stopped feeling bad. Oh

733
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 3: you can do that. It works.

734
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: It's like a troll on the internet, Like sometimes I

735
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: feel like all they need is like, oh you good job,

736
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: you really got me.

737
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: As a reformed troll, I can tell you all we

738
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: want is love in attention.

739
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you're reminding me.

740
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: Like there's so many lessons that I actually think I

741
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 1: learned from my interest in the paranormal that I take

742
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: into real life, you know, similar to like the energy

743
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: you give off when you go to places. I feel

744
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: that way just going places in general, Like Okay, if

745
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be good energy, then I'll be.

746
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 2: Met with good energy.

747
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: Like I always say, it's like a little bit of

748
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: like healthy delusion where I'm just kind of like if

749
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: I let people know that like nothing bothers me, then

750
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: nothing's going to bother me. And it's weird, but it

751
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: works for me. And I feel that same way with

752
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: this curse thing.

753
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: It really is.

754
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: It's all just the energy you put out, the energy

755
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: you give to people. When you think of trolls or

756
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: people on the Internet or bullies or whatever that is.

757
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: It's like, if you don't feed into it, it can't win.

758
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: It just won't. It won't go anywhere. It's not getting

759
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: what it needs to fuel lists. So you just kind

760
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: of like don't give it what it's looking for.

761
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 4: That's exactly it.

762
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a great way to live.

763
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: We really learned that with the first season of Hell Here,

764
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 4: because it's this television show that's about UFOs and upology,

765
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 4: but from a very different perspective. And so when we

766
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 4: put it out into the world, there were a lot

767
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 4: of people sort of entrenched, like UFO bros, like entrenched

768
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 4: in the community that are very much like it's their

769
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 4: physical things that are flying in the sky, and we

770
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 4: dealt with like the weirds haters you like possitively imagine.

771
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: People could not believe Dana was reading tarot.

772
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they couldn't imagine, like well Witchcraft and UFOs,

773
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 4: like it was a paradigm they couldn't contextualize in their brains,

774
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 4: so they just would lash out all the time. And

775
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 4: I think that, like what you said is perfect. It's

776
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: sort of like I always imagine it as if it's

777
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 4: a road and they're kind of like asking you to

778
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 4: come down this road with them, and at a certain

779
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 4: point you recognize, like, now that's not a road I

780
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 4: want to go down. So I'm just gonna let you

781
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 4: be on your hater road and have your hater life

782
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 4: and enjoy it and drink your hater age exactly. Yeah,

783
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: but yeah, you're absolutely true. It's one hundred percent true.

784
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

785
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: And it's like, and I'm happier than you, Like I'm sorry,

786
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: but like, it's weird that when you're happy, you don't

787
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: feel like making people's lives miserable. And I think that

788
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: there are energies like that that aren't necessarily connected to

789
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: human beings, where it's like they feed on negativity or

790
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: whatever and they're looking for more of it and you

791
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: ain't getting that from me.

792
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 3: No, No, you just just shut it off, shut it off,

793
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: and they go away. And I think that works for

794
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 3: weird stuff too. Don't don't let it scare you. Our

795
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: motto is always like, if you can choose, choose to

796
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 3: be curious instead of afraid, And part of the reason

797
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 3: is if we can continue like it's a big part

798
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 3: of our thing is constantly tell people choose curiosity, don't

799
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: choose fear. And if you can become less afraid of

800
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: the monster under your bed, then you know your neighbor

801
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: doesn't seem so scary anymore. The people that might believe

802
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: differently or look differently than you. Again, we don't have

803
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 3: to tell you. The paranormal world kind of skews very

804
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: right wing Christian and by us being able to say

805
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 3: things like this, it helps people maybe kind of get

806
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: out of that weird headspace that they're in that kind

807
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 3: of locks them into one particular worldview. If you can

808
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 3: be nice to ghosts, you can be nice to people.

809
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but come on, they're a little spooky, Like, I mean,

810
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: they are, some of them.

811
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: Those are a little scary.

812
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: My thing is like if you're invisible and you have

813
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: the ability to just touch people randomly, like that is

814
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: that's weird.

815
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 3: It is they don't have boundaries often, I know.

816
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 4: I mean, like one of the things we'll tell people

817
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 4: often when they are having experiences like that where for instance,

818
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 4: maybe they are being touched, you know, they don't want

819
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 4: to be touched and it's scary, and like that's scary.

820
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 4: It's scary one a stranger touches you, let alone, a

821
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 4: stranger you can't see. And so one of the things

822
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 4: that we'll constantly talk to people about is in our

823
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 4: daily lives, when we're functioning in the world, we have

824
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 4: to set boundaries all the time, often with people and

825
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 4: you know, places where we're working, or just in general.

826
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 4: Boundary setting is something that we all kind of have

827
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 4: to get very good at, and it's really no different

828
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 4: when it comes to the paranormal. It's it's just remembering

829
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: that when you have a creepy experience, when something something

830
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 4: makes it feel a little bit out of control, which

831
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 4: is often what happens in those types of experiences, it's

832
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: just kind of reiterating to people and helping them recognize that,

833
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 4: like the same kind of boundary setting can be done

834
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 4: in an energetic way and can be done just vocally

835
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: in places like that, and often just setting those boundaries

836
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 4: will make huge differences when it comes to the creepies

837
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 4: because they are they are. I'm scared of ghosts still.

838
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: If I saw anytime I have like a we go

839
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 4: to a haunted place, I don't want to see it. Ever,

840
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: I don't want to see like a translucent, tiny girl

841
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 4: reach out at me in the dark. I don't want

842
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 4: to see it.

843
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: I do.

844
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 4: I don't. I'm scared of it.

845
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm scared of it too, but that's why

846
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 5: I like it. Yeah, well you're a Scorpio. That's why

847
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 5: I'm scared of it too.

848
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: But this is where I struggle because there is like

849
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: almost a ghost bro within me. I think my defense

850
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: mechanism is just like because I feel like I deal

851
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: with ghosts sometimes trying to boss me around, and I'm

852
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: just like, I don't take that from anybody. Here's here's

853
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: where here's where I differ. I never start shit. Okay, yes,

854
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: I let the ghost start some ship, and then if

855
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna start it with me, they got the wrong one.

856
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: I think that's fair.

857
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 4: Yeah it is.

858
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: I think that's totally fair. I can be on board

859
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 3: with it.

860
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: And that to me is boundaries and exactly whatever. I

861
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: have a couple of times the past year where these

862
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: ghosts are like allegedly according you know, I'm still very

863
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: skeptical of a lot of this stuff, but you know,

864
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: evidence leads me to believe that this ghost keeps asking

865
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: me to do this or do that, and I'm like,

866
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: you don't pay my bills, Okay, you're not my dad,

867
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: d you're not gonna tell me where I need. This

868
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: is something else I need to deal with. Thanks for

869
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: bringing up therapy.

870
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: And weirdly enough, we meet a ton of therapists that

871
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: are into the paranormal, like so many.

872
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean, my personal theory a lot of the time

873
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: is that like a ghost has been sticking around for

874
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: a long time, and this is like judgment or whatever

875
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: on my part, I apologize, but I think a lot

876
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: of times it's like they're holding on to the past,

877
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: and what's that about, because we all know living people

878
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: where it's like, we know you were cool in high school.

879
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:17,959
Speaker 2: That was twenty years ago.

880
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: Stop talking about it, like you need to talk to

881
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: someone so that we can get you to where you

882
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: need to be right now and be present and stop

883
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: holding on to the past. It's over somebody else lives

884
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: here now or whatever. So I do think there needs

885
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: to be more therapy type tactics when it comes to

886
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: those people that help clean spaces, and.

887
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, have you had this conversation with your ghost?

888
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: Have you had the conversation where you're like, hey, listen,

889
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 3: it's time to move on, it's time to go all

890
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 3: this thing time and it still won't leave.

891
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: Well, I don't have a ghost that lives here, but

892
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 1: just you know, when I go ghost hunting, No, we'll

893
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: talk about boundaries. I have a full on spiritual security system.

894
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: Nice I figured nobody's coming in here though. Oh my god,

895
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've told this story yet. I

896
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: have this thing I found at a flea market. It's

897
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: a ceramic lady face. It's like gorgeous, like beautiful makeup.

898
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize until I got it home.

899
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: You just like hanging on the wall. I have three

900
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 2: of them.

901
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: One of them fell and broke and smashed, so now

902
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: I have two of them. But I didn't know until

903
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: I got them home that they have a string behind

904
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: them and if you pull the string, it's like kind

905
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: of like that music box chimy kind of music, and

906
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: it plays My Heart Will Go On by Celine Dion.

907
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's incredible.

908
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: And like maybe two weeks ago, I was sitting on

909
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: the couch late at night and all of a sudden,

910
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: I hear and I googled it. Apparently that can happen

911
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: with these old like music boxes or whatever. They had

912
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: just one their own, and it was the first time

913
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 1: it happened.

914
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: Keep explaining it away.

915
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

916
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: So send me your address and.

917
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: I don't want that. That sounds certifying.

918
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: Hey, can we look at a haunted eBay doll? Please?

919
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 3: I love nothing more.

920
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: Thank god, it is time for a segment I call

921
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: the dolls are living? Okay, this is gonna be fun

922
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: with you guys. We are today talking about Mandy. Gee,

923
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: how can you show us Mandy? Please?

924
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I literally had a jump scare.

925
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I cannot understand what the deal

926
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: is with Mandy. She feels like a ventriloquid dummy, but

927
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have a movable mouth.

928
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: She's like a.

929
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: Very weird large doll.

930
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: Mandy looks like a woman in a mask.

931
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, she is like she's got a big is that

932
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: Gingham hat?

933
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what you call that.

934
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: Little Debbie, yes, little Tabby, not a little Debbie. I'm

935
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: getting here.

936
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: She feels like I've seen this drag quien many times.

937
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: She's like missing half of her upper lip lipstick.

938
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what she's been doing.

939
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: She well, she's also missing her pupils, and she's got

940
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: she has lashes. It's just all very confusing. You need

941
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: to go to ghosted by ros on Instagram under the

942
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: tab dolls to see what we're talking about here.

943
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: This is nightmare material.

944
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 4: I'm kind of obsessed though, because anytime I see a

945
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: doll with teeth, oh, it's.

946
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: Alarming to have teeth and no pupils.

947
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, the lack of pupils is also very creepy. But

948
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 4: the lashes are still very much present.

949
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: With the crows eyes. They are doing it for me.

950
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 4: Think a lashes, No, they are crows eyes.

951
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

952
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that is doing it for me. That is

953
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: it's sort of that's like somebody's southern grandma.

954
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

955
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like a chucky doll version of their grandmother.

956
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: Yes, but she fully has a wig too, like.

957
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: It's like a yeah, like a church haunted doll. Church lady.

958
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 3: I don't know what does look like a church lady?

959
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 4: Like a It's really there's a lot going on. I

960
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 4: don't know. She's really legitimately scary though.

961
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 3: I love clown features, yes, but no lights, clown makeup.

962
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. She is going for twenty seven

963
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: hundred dollars stop, oh my god, and of course she

964
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: comes with a biography. I mean, I don't have to

965
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: explain any of this to you, you weirdos. You two

966
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: already know all about this. But here's a little bit

967
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: of the biography. Mandy was a vivacious twenty five year

968
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: old when a tragic.

969
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: Car accident claimed her.

970
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: Not okay, she died in a car accident, sat but

971
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: going on to the real scary stuff.

972
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: Twenty five though, I guess she was before she got it.

973
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 3: Would be mad if I was a twenty five year

974
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 3: old person look in this logically shuffled too early off

975
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 3: this mortal coil. Yeah, and you stuck.

976
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 4: Me in that. Yeah, that would be really, really awful.

977
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 3: I'd be very upset.

978
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: Now, okay, sidetrack, Do you guys feel like this scenario,

979
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: which I don't know, It seems like you guys kind

980
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: of believe that this kind of thing could be possible.

981
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: I think I do. I don't know.

982
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: But do you think that it's a choice that the

983
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: spirit makes or are they assigned a vessel?

984
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: I think that's a complicated answer.

985
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think the simplest way I could

986
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 4: probably just sort of even begin to sort of scratch

987
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 4: the surface of it is if we believe that there's

988
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 4: some sort of a physical attachment, that there's some kind

989
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 4: of consciousness whatever that is that seems to be really

990
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 4: present with this object. I often think that it has

991
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 4: something to do with a living person's the energy of

992
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 4: a living person kind of attributing it to that object,

993
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: if that makes sense. So like family Airline for instance,

994
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 4: so that I think they're a really great example. We

995
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 4: have a pair of earrings that were given to the

996
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 4: museum that belong to someone's grandma. After their grandmother passed,

997
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 4: they would like move around their house all the time,

998
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: and it just freaked them out and they didn't really

999
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 4: want to keep them in the house anymore. But there's

1000
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 4: almost a sense of I think you can think of

1001
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 4: airloms as if there's a living person, there's someone who's

1002
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 4: sort of making that connection sort of on a certain level.

1003
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 3: You know what a good analogy is. Yeah, when I

1004
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 3: look at haunted objects, I think of them like not

1005
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 3: a container, but a telephone.

1006
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 4: A telephone.

1007
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I think that you have the ability

1008
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 3: to program your own you know, your own quick dial

1009
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: into that telephone in contact whatever, make that thing makes

1010
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 3: you think about. But I also think that other people

1011
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: and things have the ability to do that too and

1012
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 3: be like this is my phone. This is how I'm

1013
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 3: going to get attention from these people and talk to

1014
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 3: these people. Yeah. I'm not a big proponent of the

1015
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: idea that like it's a best it's a vest soul

1016
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: for something, because that sounds like the shittiest afterlife I

1017
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 3: can imagine. Yeah, And I'd like to think we have

1018
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 3: more agency as human being.

1019
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 4: I hope that it's a bit more elegant the passing

1020
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 4: of our souls into the next place.

1021
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: That's what I keep thinking, Like, is it you are

1022
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: given the choice Heaven, Hell or Mandy the eBay doll?

1023
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: I would put Mandy above a little scarier than Hell. Yeah,

1024
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: not much though.

1025
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: Okay, let me tell you more about this story. It

1026
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: says she was strikingly beautiful and embraced life fully. Mandy

1027
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: garnered admiration from both men and women due to her

1028
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: innocent appearance, yet she was anything but innocent. Employed at

1029
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: a strip club in a neighboring town, Mandy was a

1030
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: renowned upscale performer. Far from being a common dancer, she

1031
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: maintained high standards, possessed innate elegance, and had a charm

1032
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: that left her with bountiful tips each night. She danced occasional. Okay,

1033
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: so there's a lot about how great she was as

1034
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: a stripper. It says her spirit now resides in this

1035
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: stunning doll, chosen for its beauty. I checked five times

1036
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: to make sure that this was the right biography for

1037
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: this doll. I have a feeling it's a copy and

1038
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: paste situation that these people have used on multiple different postings.

1039
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: But it says to be warned. She can be quite intense,

1040
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: even causing discomfort at times.

1041
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that she.

1042
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: Views these as tender gestures of affection. She yearns for

1043
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: close interaction and let's see, you'll see some orbs, so

1044
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: that's probably pretty good bonus. She respects your boundaries even

1045
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: though she moves around at night, and she's often signaling

1046
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: her presence through unexpected sounds. Are visual phenomena anyway, So

1047
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: twenty seven hundred dollars.

1048
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 3: Who do you think writes these claws?

1049
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 4: I want to meet that person.

1050
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. During the Writer's Guild strike there were

1051
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: more than ever of these.

1052
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 5: That's so interesting you solved it, that is, so we

1053
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 5: have wondered the same thing.

1054
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 3: I feel like these things have gotten so popular the

1055
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: last few years. Ross I think you solved it.

1056
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 4: That's incredibly interesting.

1057
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 3: Out of work writers.

1058
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 4: I love the excessive description because normally people like they

1059
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: haven't done their own research. That's usually our job is

1060
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 4: to like fill in the spaces and find the details.

1061
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 4: But I love it when someone gives you like a

1062
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 4: fully fleshed out, like Hollywood story about full backstory, full Backstorre.

1063
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 4: And it's always dolls.

1064
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say, keep them coming. I think it's fun.

1065
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 4: I love I kind of love Mandy. I'm not gonna lie.

1066
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: Well twenty seven hundred.

1067
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: Let's start a gofund me. We'll get her.

1068
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 4: In the we get her in the museum.

1069
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: There's your next documentary, Mandy the strip doll. Hey can

1070
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: I play some EVPs? Yes? Time for EVP.

1071
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: Or ev plase.

1072
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So what I do? I go to YouTube dot com.

1073
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: I'll find me some EVPs and I'm gonna play you too,

1074
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me what you hear,

1075
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna guess the right answer being what

1076
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: the person that posted it believes it's saying.

1077
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: Because I'll give you some options here.

1078
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 5: Uh.

1079
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: The first one was posted by Rocky raccoon eighty six

1080
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: and it's at a seventeenth century property that is in

1081
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: Warwick in the UK. What is this ghost saying?

1082
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 4: Oh, it is kind of weird.

1083
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: It's windy out, there's leaves rustling, and.

1084
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 2: It's a whisper. Let me play it again.

1085
00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 4: You're better at this sennight that I can.

1086
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: I'm almost there again.

1087
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: Any guesses?

1088
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 3: Got it?

1089
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 4: What is it?

1090
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 3: What I hear? Is I think this is private property?

1091
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 4: Oh?

1092
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: Wait it again?

1093
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 4: Private property?

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00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Well, here's some options.

1095
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: Is it A I am dead? Probably? Is it B?

1096
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: Thanks private property? Is it C hi, I'm proud of you?

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00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: Or D I did not order the braccally, Okay, I'm

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00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: gonna play it again. It's one of those.

1099
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 4: Definitely, I think it was B.

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00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, private property. So they think it's saying thanks private property.

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00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: Of my opinion, I think it's saying, Hi, this is

1102
00:55:59,000 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: private property.

1103
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna need to get off. You don't need to go.

1104
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 3: I don't like the broccoli one personally.

1105
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 4: Broccoli one good too.

1106
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: I did not order the broccoli.

1107
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 4: The ghost is setting the boundary in the scenario.

1108
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 3: It's bost setting the boundary. The ops even they know.

1109
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the one more. This one is from Haunted

1110
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: Joe Horton. The location is unknown. What is this ghost saying? Okay,

1111
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: a lot of background noise. It's kind of a whisper.

1112
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess a little girl. I'm gonna play it again.

1113
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 4: It's so it's like I can hear it, but it

1114
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 4: seems like it's farther, like far away from the microphone.

1115
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 3: We get one more.

1116
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 4: It is it whisper?

1117
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 3: I can tell you what I hear?

1118
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: What do you hear?

1119
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 3: I'm so scared right now.

1120
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh, I'm so scared right now.

1121
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 4: I could hear that.

1122
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me play it.

1123
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds like to me.

1124
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 2: Well, here's some options. Is it A she's very loud?

1125
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: Is it B?

1126
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: Did you hear that?

1127
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 3: Is it? C?

1128
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: She's here in the house? Or D Shakira is in town?

1129
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 4: Okay, we hear it one more time.

1130
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I like shakiras in town. Personally, I can I

1131
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 3: can hear that now that I've now that I've got

1132
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 3: that option. But I think I think C was what

1133
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 3: it feels like to me. She's in the house.

1134
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you guys should do this professionally because

1135
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: that is two for two. She's here in the house.

1136
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, it's very clear. That's really that's a good.

1137
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 3: One, a really good one.

1138
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: Well, you too, I could talk to you for literally

1139
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: hours and hours. Please, at the very least tell us

1140
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that you want people to check out,

1141
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: because there's so much of it.

1142
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 3: Well, as you know, we just recently released a feature

1143
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 3: length documentary. It's called The Unbinding. It's about an item

1144
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 3: that we've referred to as the Chrone. We've told the

1145
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 3: story on a previous episode of your podcast. People should

1146
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 3: check that out.

1147
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 4: The Unbinding sort of gives the back half of the

1148
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 4: story that we haven't told publicly, so it's you get

1149
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 4: a little bit of resolution in terms of the crone

1150
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 4: her song, which.

1151
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: Is a rare thing. She's very rare.

1152
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say me personally, it's the best paranormal

1153
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: investigation I've ever seen on camera that has been caught

1154
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: on camera, because you know, we don't always get to

1155
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know very many scenarios that

1156
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: are like cases that are like this where there's a beginning, middle,

1157
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: and end. Right, you are seeing and it's documented over years,

1158
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: and you're seeing footage of unexplained phenomena captured and you know,

1159
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: usually you see on TV shows and stuff, a couple

1160
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: of days that are spent at one locate like this

1161
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: is a intense study with a lot of different as

1162
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: you guys always do, like with Hell You're and everything,

1163
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: you do a lot of different approaches trying to, you know,

1164
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: figure this all out. And I just think it's incredible

1165
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 1: and anyone that's a fan of paranormal should check it out.

1166
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1167
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,439
Speaker 3: I'm so flattered. That means a lot.

1168
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 4: It does well.

1169
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 3: If you want to check it out Planet weird dot tv,

1170
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 3: you can find it there. You can find pretty much

1171
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 3: anything we do there. We're working on the second season

1172
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 3: of the Haunted Objects podcast. Yes we don't have a

1173
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 3: release date yet, but it'll be out soon, very soon.

1174
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 4: And we are also in the midst of filming Hell

1175
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 4: You're Three, so that is also coming. I know people

1176
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 4: don't believe us when we say it anymore, but we.

1177
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 3: Really are film really are.

1178
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 4: We watch foot we watch footage.

1179
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 3: It's incredible and it made us fry. It's so good.

1180
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 3: It's the best thing we've made, so so good. Planet

1181
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 3: weird dot tv.

1182
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: You guys, well, I'm so happy that you came on.

1183
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 4: We love you, love you, Thank you so much.

1184
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: I love you guys, adopt me.

1185
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: Okay fine, thank you so much to Greg and Dana Newkirk. Hey,

1186
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: I want to tell you again I will be doing

1187
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: a show on the second of May in Los Angeles

1188
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: stand up comedy not about ghosts, and that will be

1189
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: at Largo at the Cornet Theater for Netflix is a

1190
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: joke the Comedy Festival, and I will be headlining along

1191
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 1: with some of my favorite comedian friends. So please check

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01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: that out. You can get the tickets in the link

1193
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: in my Instagram bio. And also, please keep spreading the

1194
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: word about the show rated five stars wherever you can

1195
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: do that at Apple Podcasts and however you listen to it,

1196
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: and you know, a nice review always makes my day too.

1197
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

1198
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

1199
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: Hey by, this has been an exactly right production. Want

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01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read

1201
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so

1202
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

1203
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: You can send a DM or voice message to the

1204
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: show's Instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow

1205
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: while you're there and follow me Roz on Instagram at

1206
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at it's Roz Hernandez.

1207
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

1208
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

1209
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

1210
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the

1211
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by

1212
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky

1213
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

1214
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: by the chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia Hart Start,

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01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: and the frightening Danielle Kramer.