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Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 5: It's time for the break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 5: We were on with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick

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Speaker 5: Walker and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 6: It is Thursday November sixteenth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 6: episode number seventy two.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the latest edition.

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Speaker 6: All of the break Well Lot from s WBC Morriage

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Speaker 6: Studios at the Star and we got our crew here

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Speaker 6: with us. Patrick is out today, but we got Brian,

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Speaker 6: we got Amber, and we got Cowboys versus Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 6: And at some point in this show, Brian is going

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Speaker 6: to stand up and dance for us.

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Speaker 7: I don't even know what it's called. That one dance.

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Speaker 8: I don't know the name it was. It was. It's

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Speaker 8: on your social media.

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Speaker 7: Do it right, do it left?

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Speaker 8: It's left right, left, right?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, well you're having problems with the left right

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Speaker 9: footwork there looked like a right tackle.

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Speaker 10: Some people are not born with that kind of skill.

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Speaker 10: Takes a lot of coordination, some pain.

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Speaker 8: Some can dance.

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Speaker 6: Right there, you go exactly, lean into whatever God gave you.

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Speaker 8: Whatever. You a Dominican though, that you could have, you

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Speaker 8: have that.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 10: That's the kind of shame I bring up on my

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Speaker 10: own people. It's the fact that I'm probably me and

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Speaker 10: my brothers. They claim they can dance, but they can't.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, we were not good dances. My mom can

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Speaker 10: dance really good. Everybody in my family, my dad is

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Speaker 10: a big dancer.

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Speaker 2: But that's interesting Mom and dad and what happened. None

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Speaker 2: of y'all could.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Y'all were busy doing other things.

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Speaker 7: Let's put it like that, painting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, painting.

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Speaker 8: There you go.

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Speaker 6: All right, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna we're

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Speaker 6: gonna start that injury report. Patrick's not here to give

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Speaker 6: it to us. But that's a good thing, because the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys injury report is basically empty, like they don't have

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Speaker 6: any They have guys on it, but.

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Speaker 2: They all have full participation in practice.

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Speaker 6: There was one thing that stood out to me, though,

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Speaker 6: I thought was interesting. Tyrant tinnashitot nd shot A shot

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Speaker 6: opened his window. What what can he provide for this

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Speaker 6: it for him to provide at this point coming back

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Speaker 6: from injury, Well.

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Speaker 10: It would be interesting to see what that looks like,

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Speaker 10: because prior to the injury, he wasn't doing a whole lot,

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Speaker 10: know what it was. I don't know what kind of

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Speaker 10: a successful start of twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 10: It seemed to me that maybe a lot of it

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Speaker 10: He was physically fine.

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Speaker 7: Last year.

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Speaker 10: He did a really good job given what was asked

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Speaker 10: But then all of a sudden, I don't know if

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Speaker 10: it was that the arriving of Schoolmaker and maybe him

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Speaker 9: I think she tailed it. I think she absolutely nailed

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Speaker 9: even before last season they were, you know, guys were

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Speaker 9: And now maybe you're a little bit you're not so

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Speaker 9: But there were a lot of people in this organization

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Speaker 9: Hindershot gets hurt. You know what, it's a capable player,

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Speaker 9: you know, it's to me, it's you know, McEwan. I

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Speaker 9: I want to see more of the Michigan tight end,

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Speaker 9: and I got many too. Man, I'm on this Schoonmaker

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Speaker 9: But I think having Hindershot and Schoonmaker and Ferguson and

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Speaker 9: of put him into place like okay, I just need

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Speaker 9: to go out and play.

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Speaker 9: I've got, you know, a couple of months here to

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Speaker 9: real quick. The one guy that was surprising yesterday, we

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Speaker 9: wasn't on the injury report. But it was like a

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Speaker 8: It was more of a run.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, it was more of a walk through type

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Speaker 8: That was the one that got my attention. But I'm

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Speaker 8: glad you brought up a hinder shot.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: The interesting thing about hinder shot and this is this

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Speaker 6: he wasn't around. That's the hard part about this is

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Speaker 6: did is how.

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Speaker 2: Does he fit?

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Speaker 6: Is when someone is gone and realize they're not there

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Speaker 6: did they really miss I don't. I don't know that

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Speaker 6: it's not like he's the best blocker, it's not like

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Speaker 2: They got a lot of guys that that should be

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Speaker 9: What happens is when you play games and you manage

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Speaker 9: push to get him back ready to go is not

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Speaker 9: that serious. It's like, Okay, we can take our time

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Speaker 9: come back potentially a week early.

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Speaker 8: We could let this thing ride and then you know,

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Speaker 8: when he's ready, he's ready.

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Speaker 9: And you know, the cowboys in a way kind of

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Speaker 9: I think they really hate making roster moves when it

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Speaker 8: I don't think they I don't think they're it.

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Speaker 9: You know, who's the fifty first guy, who's the fifty

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Speaker 8: They do.

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Speaker 9: They love their players. They love their players to the

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Speaker 9: They Mike McCarthy, he loves his team, he loves his guys,

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Speaker 8: You know, to get rid of a guy. They just

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Speaker 10: But also for the tight end position, Hender Show wasn't

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Speaker 10: to block and that would be more Sean McKeon, and

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Speaker 7: I just spit all over the place.

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Speaker 8: Schoolmaker will do that to you.

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Speaker 10: And then you look at the receiving aspect of things

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Speaker 10: it's already lacking as far as how much you're using it.

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Speaker 10: So it's just it's hard to do you kind of

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I was gonna say this if I can offer

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Speaker 9: just one of my being wrong about the tight end position.

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Speaker 9: I feel like that I was wrong about Schoonmaker in

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Speaker 9: a way of him being a.

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Speaker 8: Plug and play blocker. I felt like watching.

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Speaker 9: Him play at Michigan and the way that they play

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Speaker 9: really he's had some drops that are they're really inexcusable,

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Speaker 9: concentration lacks, you know, stuff that you didn't see. Where

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Speaker 9: I misevaluated him was plug and play as a blocker.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's talk about the Carolina defense. I want

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's Brian Burns and Brian Burns is listed as

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Speaker 9: Brian Burns is primarily their best pass rusher. He's listed

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Speaker 9: You know, Reddick plays the one side, but Burns will

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Speaker 9: with the most rushing attempts faced. They face the ninth

443
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Speaker 9: most rushing attempts. So what's happening is they're they're they've

444
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Speaker 9: had a problem defending Like outside runs is another thing.

445
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Speaker 9: When you watch them on tape, it's like, oh, balls

446
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,239
Speaker 9: getting to the corner. They're thirtieth in the league when

447
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,120
Speaker 9: it comes to ball on edge. So we saw last

448
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 9: week with the Cowboys, remember the toss sweeps, trying to

449
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Speaker 9: get the ball on the outside, not run the ball

450
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Speaker 9: at Dexter Lawrence, try and get the ball on the

451
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Speaker 9: edge a little bit more So this team, I think

452
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Speaker 9: they're facing less pass attempts because teams are kind of

453
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Speaker 9: figuring out we could.

454
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Speaker 8: Run the ball and have a little success on them.

455
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Speaker 9: And but but if you look at you look at

456
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Speaker 9: how they play like and this is this is why

457
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Speaker 9: I think is going to happen in this game. Because

458
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Speaker 9: they play that cover three look with the single high safety.

459
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Speaker 9: They're going to teams that are that have big time

460
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Speaker 9: receivers Dolphins, Seattle, Detroit, those teams that have those kind

461
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 9: of receivers played zone ninety four percent of the time

462
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 9: against the Dolphins played zone ninety two percent of the

463
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Speaker 9: time versus Seattle played zone eighty three percent of the

464
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Speaker 9: time against Detride. They're gonna play a ton of zone

465
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Speaker 9: in this game against the Cowboys. They're absolutely gonna play

466
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Speaker 9: and they're gonna hope that they can get that they

467
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Speaker 9: can get Brian Burns home, and maybe they're gonna have

468
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Speaker 9: to blitz a little bit more, but they're they're they're

469
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Speaker 9: big blitz down. By the way, too is first down

470
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Speaker 9: that they don't wait till third down to blitch you.

471
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Speaker 9: They come right off the bus first down. They're gonna

472
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Speaker 9: come blitch you there.

473
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Speaker 8: So I kind of feel like.

474
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Speaker 9: I feel like that they they they they wanted. They're

475
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Speaker 9: really really worried about their run defense, you know, but

476
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Speaker 9: they're but people have had success though even though they've

477
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Speaker 9: got the fewest pass attempts. If you look in their

478
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Speaker 9: secondary and you watch their and watch their guys play,

479
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 9: you know, j C. Horn is coming back and he's

480
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 9: been out since week one. Now he's there and when

481
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Speaker 9: you watch him, he's their best press man corner. I mean,

482
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Speaker 9: he is the one guy that can lock up a guy,

483
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Speaker 9: like if he gets on CD, he can lock CD

484
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Speaker 9: up because of his ability and ability to turn, to run,

485
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 9: his size, his length, all those things. But the other

486
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Speaker 9: corners with Dante Jackson and CJ. Henderson, they they get

487
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Speaker 9: a lot of covered snaps. But the quarterback rating against them,

488
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Speaker 9: and you could tell it on tape again is really high.

489
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Speaker 9: One nineteen to six against Jackson, uh one p fifteen

490
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Speaker 9: to nine against Henderson. Teams are having success when they

491
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Speaker 9: pass it. Those guys throwing the ball at him, Yeah,

492
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Speaker 9: you know they're not. It's like not a lot of attempts,

493
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Speaker 9: but teams are having success doing it.

494
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Speaker 8: You know.

495
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Speaker 9: It's a it's a weird thing because maybe the fact

496
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Speaker 9: that they struggle playing run defense actually helps them not

497
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Speaker 9: get exposed as much in past defense.

498
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Speaker 6: You know what I'd also like to figure out on

499
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Speaker 6: that note, is is it because because they have lost

500
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Speaker 6: They've only been two games so far, there are all

501
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Speaker 6: their losses. Yeah, there have only been two of them

502
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Speaker 6: when they lost by less than seven points, right, And

503
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Speaker 6: so it makes me wonder if a lot of the

504
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 6: fact that teams are running the ball a lot against

505
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Speaker 6: them is based in the fact that you get a

506
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Speaker 6: lead and then you're just trying to run out the

507
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Speaker 6: gains right, and that that does make me wonder if

508
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 6: that's really the reason. It's not so much that you

509
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Speaker 6: see a weakness in the run defense as much as

510
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Speaker 6: it is it's just that's point of the game and

511
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Speaker 6: you just on a rap the clock.

512
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Speaker 9: That is I clearly think I don't think anybody wants

513
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Speaker 9: to deal with Brian Burns as a rusher. I really don't. Uh,

514
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Speaker 9: But but I've seen teams run the ball at him

515
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Speaker 9: and have success. So it's it's it's it's one of

516
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Speaker 9: those strange things. Is like I remember they came in here,

517
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Speaker 9: I think it was two years ago, maybe three years ago,

518
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Speaker 9: where they were the number one run defense in the

519
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Speaker 9: league and Dallas and Dallas was Dallas was one of

520
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Speaker 9: the top teams running the foot ball as well, and

521
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 9: it was going to be okay, which was going to happen,

522
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Speaker 9: and Dallas just slammed him in the running game. And

523
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Speaker 9: they came out of here and Dallas had a big

524
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Speaker 9: win and all that stuff like that.

525
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Speaker 8: But they ran the football.

526
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Speaker 9: I think that's a little bit of I think their

527
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 9: pass defense gets masked because of the struggle. I could

528
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Speaker 9: definitely see now the reason they struggle. I think in

529
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Speaker 9: the running game is they like to and we always

530
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Speaker 9: talk about like move the front because you'll see them.

531
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Speaker 9: You'll see them move all their guys will take a

532
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Speaker 9: step going, say strong, and then they'll try and fill

533
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Speaker 9: with a safety or somebody. So they're trying to cover

534
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Speaker 9: all the gaps, but there's sometimes they don't cover all

535
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Speaker 9: the gaps, and now.

536
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Speaker 8: The ball's through and people are getting yards on.

537
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Speaker 9: I could see Dallas in the running game trying the

538
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Speaker 9: little bit of the edges, but just kind of take

539
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Speaker 9: as blockers, take them where they want to go. If

540
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Speaker 9: they want to go hard to the just move them

541
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Speaker 9: that way and then take the ball behind all the

542
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Speaker 9: movement there. And that's what teams have been able to

543
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Speaker 9: do against this team and and have some success doing it.

544
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Speaker 6: You mentioned the fact that they run a lot of zone.

545
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 6: They actually, right now second and league percentage of plays

546
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Speaker 6: dropbacks that they play zone about eighty three percent of

547
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Speaker 6: the time at this point, because we've talked about it.

548
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Speaker 6: That is at great games versus teams that play a

549
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Speaker 6: lot of man play a lot of zone. If you

550
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Speaker 6: had to choose which one you think the Cowboys offense

551
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Speaker 6: is more proficient going up against zone or man.

552
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Speaker 9: I kind of feel like that, man, it seems like

553
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Speaker 9: they make a lot of big plays and they play

554
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Speaker 9: man coverage place against these guys, do you know when

555
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Speaker 9: they when the ability to I know the San Francisco

556
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Speaker 9: game was a little bit different because of the man.

557
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Speaker 8: I mean they didn't.

558
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Speaker 9: I don't think they expected San Francisco to play as

559
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Speaker 9: much man coverage. But man, they seem like they make

560
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 9: some huge chunk plays when it's when they're dealing with

561
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Speaker 9: their running guys through. You know, maybe they're using their

562
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Speaker 9: picks and their rubs. But it seems like to me

563
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Speaker 9: the separation that that you know that Lamb has been

564
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Speaker 9: able to get cooks last week in the game. With

565
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Speaker 9: the separation, I do feel like to me, just what

566
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Speaker 9: I pointed out, I think the I think they're nervous

567
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 9: about Dallas's secondary. I think you're gonna see a ton

568
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Speaker 9: of zone in this game, just because that's in me

569
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Speaker 9: just going back, I'm like, okay, wait, okay, they play

570
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Speaker 9: a lot of his own, but who are they playing

571
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Speaker 9: it against. You know, look at Miami. Miami has weapons,

572
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Speaker 9: yea speed. You know they're trying not to give up

573
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Speaker 9: the big play. The thing when you're playing the Cowboys.

574
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Speaker 9: You got to worry about the big plays. I think

575
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Speaker 9: the DAK I think they're going to play. But we'll

576
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Speaker 9: say with j. C. Horn being back, the Hord could

577
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Speaker 9: Hord could be great, or he could have a lot

578
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Speaker 9: of rust. You know, the Russ factor could be a

579
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 9: factor here. But he is the one guy that I

580
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 9: feel like that they said, Okay, we're going to try

581
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Speaker 9: and take Ceede.

582
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Speaker 8: Lamb out of this game.

583
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Speaker 9: He's the one guy I think could go with Lamb

584
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Speaker 9: and battle him the whole game.

585
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Speaker 8: I don't think Jackson or Anderson can do that.

586
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Speaker 10: So let's let's go through the last four weeks where

587
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 10: they've started changing offensively and being more productive. So against

588
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 10: the Chargers, what did they face there?

589
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 8: It's more more zone coverage.

590
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 3: There Rams that was zone, Eagles, that was that was

591
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 3: both but that was more man than zone.

592
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 8: And then Giants, Yeah, a lot of so.

593
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Speaker 6: Well, I think the other thing to consider is they've

594
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 6: played man differently. Like what I mean by that is

595
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Speaker 6: the Cowboys over the last four weeks, really after the

596
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 6: San Francisco game, they basically changed their offensive bit to

597
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 6: where they now got a ton of motion.

598
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Speaker 2: And it's what we talked about a right.

599
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 6: You're there's no motion there are there's no compression sets,

600
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Speaker 6: Like they're not doing the things that create opportunities for

601
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 6: you to take advantage of man press and not let

602
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Speaker 6: them be able to get their hands on a clean

603
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 6: press on the receivers. After that game, I don't remember

604
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 6: what the percentage was, but it's like some crazy jump

605
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 6: in percentage of plays where they have pre snap motion

606
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 6: now versus or the last four games versus what they

607
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Speaker 6: were doing against San Francisco.

608
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Speaker 9: Talking about yourself, there's something in my scouting bag I

609
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 9: want to grab. It's a piece of paper talking about you.

610
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: But I think that's really the point.

611
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Speaker 6: If you want to talk about like where the difference is,

612
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 6: you can't even really say like they were playing man

613
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 6: here versus man earlier in the season, because how they

614
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 6: how they are attacking man is different.

615
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 10: You would say, it's not so much what the opponent

616
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 10: is doing defensively, is more so what the Cowboys have

617
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 10: been able to start incorporating.

618
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Speaker 6: That's my that is my thought, because again, I feel

619
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Speaker 6: like they against San Francisco, they weren't doing the things

620
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Speaker 6: that you typically would want to do when you're placing

621
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Speaker 6: it playing a team that's playing press man coverage.

622
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Speaker 2: Their corners aren't great.

623
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Speaker 6: In San Francisco, they just played something I don't think

624
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 6: Dallas was necessarily were and in that way, they didn't

625
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 6: do the things that they probably should be doing. And

626
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 6: as we see after that game, they now have incorporated

627
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 6: incorporated those things into their their offense.

628
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Speaker 9: I did a little project and I've stood a grabbed

629
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Speaker 9: my notes when I did it of Ceede Lamb of

630
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Speaker 9: the you know, he's targeted eighty six times and he's

631
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Speaker 9: got sixty eight receptions in those times. How many times

632
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Speaker 9: you think that he's he's face Okay, he's faced h

633
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 9: single coverage. He's got forty eight receptions against single coverage,

634
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Speaker 9: and he's got twenty receptions against double coverage.

635
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 8: So that's of his sixty eight.

636
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 9: So when you watch him play teams trying to take

637
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 9: him at you know, if you try and double him,

638
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 9: he's he's seen twenty six double coverage snaps.

639
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 8: And he's caught twenty of them.

640
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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

641
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Speaker 8: See that's what I'm saying.

642
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Speaker 9: That's that's the that's the issues that you deal with

643
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 9: when you're trying to play ceed Lamb. You're trying to

644
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 9: think move him around, which they've done a great job

645
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 9: of doing. You could go back on the next gen

646
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 9: and watch and they and he's never really in the

647
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 9: same spot over.

648
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Speaker 8: I mean, you look at all his targets.

649
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Speaker 6: So if you're going to travel now, you're messing up

650
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Speaker 6: your whole defense.

651
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 9: You're messing up hole exactly exactly. So it was sixty

652
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 9: eight receptions. Like I said, it was that it doesn't

653
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 9: matter whether you single cover him or double cover him.

654
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Speaker 8: He's going to he's going to make place.

655
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Speaker 6: Do you remember.

656
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Speaker 10: I can't remember, but starting from forty nine ers and

657
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 10: before that, were they still moving him around?

658
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Speaker 9: Oh, I felt like it was more static with whether

659
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 9: we were playing. I mean just you know, okay, the

660
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 9: tight formations, slants and things like that. It felt like

661
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Speaker 9: to me there might not have been as much with that.

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Speaker 9: I mean, there's some these the games after San Francisco

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Speaker 9: are the ones that are really noticeable where I had

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Speaker 9: to find me, no, no, where I had to find him.

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Speaker 9: Like when you after the San Francisco there are times

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Speaker 9: you could watch and you're like, Okay, he's going to

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Speaker 9: be there, He's going to be there, He's going to

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Speaker 9: be there. He's okay, he's there, and then after San

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Speaker 9: Francisco was like, oh no, that's that. Yeah, that's oh,

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Speaker 9: that's that's Cooks. Okay, wait yeah, now you're looking for

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Speaker 9: his shoes. I know he wears like blue shoes, so

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Speaker 9: now you're looking for the blue shoes in the formation,

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Speaker 9: you know, and they're moving them around and bringing him

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Speaker 9: in motion and things like that. So the San Francisco

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Speaker 9: game really turned this group around, whether it was CD

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Speaker 9: going to Dak and saying, bro, come on, we gotta

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Speaker 9: do something different here. Because you watch you watch Ceedee

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Speaker 9: Lamb's game against San Francisco, it was like it is

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Speaker 9: so just ordinary, and after that it's been like all

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Speaker 6: Honestly, is the one thing that gives me some hope

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Speaker 6: that the Cowboys, if they have to face the forty

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Speaker 6: nine ers in the playoffs, can change the tide of

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Speaker 6: what's been happening the last several times that they've played them,

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Speaker 6: is if they would have employed then what they've been

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Speaker 6: employing against these other teams. I really want to see.

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Speaker 6: Now again, your defense is still gonna have to make

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Speaker 6: some stops in it. In that game, they just didn't.

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Speaker 6: They not either, So the defense still got to pull

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Speaker 6: their weight on that. But I do think the offense

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Speaker 6: obviously doing the things that they've been doing over the

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Speaker 6: I'm actually gonna start this segment with a question from

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Speaker 6: When you think about it, one of the things that

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Speaker 6: I think going into the season, I think most teams

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Speaker 6: probably looked at the Cowboys and said, you got us

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Speaker 6: up the run first, and now that the offense is

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Speaker 6: starting to explode in the passing game, you.

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Speaker 2: Got to see you think that flips it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you got to say.

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Speaker 9: The one thing the Cowboys have proven that they could

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Speaker 9: do is throw the ball and throw it effectively. You

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Speaker 9: have to be terrified if you're a defensive coordinator their

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Speaker 9: chunk plays, the big plays, I.

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Speaker 8: Mean they will, they will.

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Speaker 9: They'll route combo you to the point where you lose

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Speaker 9: track of where your guy is. They'll make it confusing

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Speaker 9: for you, will make it hard for you. And then

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Speaker 9: you know you'll see a play like up the sideline

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Speaker 9: where you know, ceedee, Lamb's wide open. You know they

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Speaker 9: lose the Giants lose coverage with the route combination. Next

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Speaker 9: thing you know, here's Lamb going up the sidelines. Ball

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Speaker 9: Dak finds him. You know that kind of thing. So yeah,

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Speaker 9: it if you're the if you're a defensive corner, that

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Speaker 9: Carolina has to be worried about Dallas's ability to throw

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Speaker 9: the football.

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Speaker 8: And the run.

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Speaker 9: I mean, if the if the Cowboys are running the

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Speaker 9: ball and I hate to say this, it's almost a

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Speaker 9: wasted play really, if you think about it, if you're

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Speaker 9: if you're going to average lake, you know, three point

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Speaker 9: a to carry on it or or something like that,

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Speaker 9: it's almost a wasted play.

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Speaker 2: And on average you're hitting six, seven, eight, and then

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Speaker 2: Dak still the.

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Speaker 8: Ball, Dack still the ball where he's nine yards shot

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Speaker 8: throwing it. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Nah, I mean if you're you're scared to death of

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Speaker 9: Dallas throwing the ball, you really are.

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Speaker 6: And when he's completing seventy eighty percent of his throws,

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Speaker 6: like that's a crazy percentage completion percentage number. But when

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Speaker 6: he's up there in the seventies like it is, it's

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Speaker 6: a situation where you take your chances three out of

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Speaker 6: four times he's gonna connect on that pass. A run

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Speaker 6: does tend to be a little bit like is it

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Speaker 6: worth the run?

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Speaker 8: Run? Right?

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Speaker 9: I mean, if you run the ball or trying, if

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Speaker 9: Dallas runs the ball against you, and you know you

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Speaker 9: then they get just their average. You're okay with that?

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Speaker 9: You know, you're not okay with giving up a thirty

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Speaker 9: seven yard pass to Cooks, you know, or giving up

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Speaker 9: a forty one yard pass to Gallop. You know you're

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Speaker 9: not that, that's not that's not winning football right there.

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Speaker 7: Well, let's be positive.

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Speaker 8: You know me, what about the running game?

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Speaker 10: You know me, I'm gonna say, no, I'm what I'm

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Speaker 10: trying to say. If let's say, defenses are now focusing

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Speaker 10: more in stopping the passing game and stopping CD Brendan Cooks,

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Speaker 10: maybe that forces you to get better af freaking running

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Speaker 10: the ball. You know, like now you're being forced to

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Speaker 10: really really put a lot of And that's not to

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Speaker 10: say that like they're not putting effort in trying to

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Speaker 10: improve the running game and all of that, but by

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Speaker 10: doing it. This is my focus in the first in

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Speaker 10: the next two weeks really before we get to Seattle,

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Speaker 10: because that's when things start getting interesting. But this next

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Speaker 10: two weeks, it's a running game. How much can they

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Speaker 10: improve And we've talked about it already yesterday, what that

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Speaker 10: December month can look like and they have to they

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Speaker 10: If that means someone's forcing them to run the ball

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Speaker 10: to maybe force them to figure things out, then I

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Speaker 10: would take that, obviously if it means a win at

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Speaker 10: the end of the day. But they just they have

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Speaker 10: to find some type of balance. I love, absolutely love

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Speaker 10: everything they're doing in the passing game, but at some

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Speaker 10: point you're going to have to be able to move

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Speaker 10: the ball.

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Speaker 8: Yeah on the ground, I hope I'm not hot taking this.

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Speaker 8: I would start doubtle over Pollard is what I would do.

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Speaker 9: I think there comes a point in time where if

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Speaker 9: you can establish what you want to do ambar early

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Speaker 9: in the game, all of a sudden you find a way,

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Speaker 9: like Dawbell breaks a couple of runs. You know, it's

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Speaker 9: it's a four and a half yard, it's a five yards,

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Speaker 9: a seven yards and eight yard. You know, they're kind

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Speaker 9: of running the ball that way. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 9: it has to be like when Zeke was was here

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Speaker 9: and then they'd put Tony in in the second series

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Speaker 9: and all that. I'm not talking about that run it,

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Speaker 9: run it, run it. Put Pollard in, run it, put

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Speaker 9: Pollard in again. You know, kind of find a way

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Speaker 9: to kind of find a little rhythm with the running game.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't have to be a series the serious thing.

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Speaker 9: But I think starting Pollard, I think Patrick's onto something

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Speaker 9: about the pressure that Pollard is feeling about being the

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Speaker 9: primary back, and we maybe if you allow doubt and

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Speaker 9: this is the first time that Dowdell has been healthy throughout,

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Speaker 9: you know, and knock on wood that it stays that way.

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Speaker 9: But I kind of feel like though, that if you

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Speaker 9: can find a little rhythm early in the game and

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Speaker 9: get the offensive line a little some good feeling about

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Speaker 9: and find a couple of plays that you can run

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Speaker 9: that you know, okay, they can't.

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Speaker 8: Stop this play today, kind of.

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Speaker 9: Find that play, find those two or three plays, run

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Speaker 9: those plays, and just kind of wear that team out

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Speaker 9: doing it. But maybe Pollard being the starter is kind

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Speaker 9: of put you back a little bit in your running game.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I just think even if teams decide that they want

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Speaker 6: to have more people in coverage and say we're gonna

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Speaker 6: stop the passing game more, I'm still not certain that

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Speaker 6: this running game is gonna get a big boost because

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Speaker 6: one of the things I've seen, and I'd be interested

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Speaker 6: to see if Brian you've seen the same thing when

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Speaker 6: you've watched the film. But one of the things I've

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Speaker 6: seen is it feels like there are a number of

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Speaker 6: times when their runs aren't successful, and it's not because

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Speaker 6: the guy didn't get to the second level. It's because

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Speaker 6: engage with the guy. The lineman lineman sees you, they're

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Speaker 6: holding you, they shed the block, they make the tack

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Speaker 6: right like we've I've seen, It's not just it's not

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Speaker 6: just a situation where if the linebacker's out of place,

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Speaker 6: all of a sudden, now the running game takes off.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that that's necessarily the case, because I

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Speaker 6: think right now, for me, a lot of the challenges

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Speaker 6: with the running game exist with the offensive line just

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Speaker 6: not sustaining blocks.

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Speaker 8: See.

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Speaker 9: I think you make a really good point because there,

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Speaker 9: but I also remember, and you and I we all

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Speaker 9: watched this play where the hole was inside on the Okay,

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Speaker 9: they they're pulling guys, and you know, uh, Schoonmaker gets stalemated.

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Speaker 8: Uh the uh.

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Speaker 9: Gets knocked down. Smith gets kind of in muddy water there.

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Speaker 9: He can't do what he needs to do. But all

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Speaker 9: of a sudden, they've got the backside sealed off and

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Speaker 9: there's a hole where he can hit that hole where

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Speaker 9: Polar also goes into the fray, goes into the fray

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Speaker 9: where if you just if you hit it a little

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Speaker 9: quicker behind the scoop block that they had gotten there,

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Speaker 9: then maybe there's a there's a six seven yard gain there.

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Speaker 9: Poward's got to help the offensive line too, you know,

897
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Speaker 9: if they if things are cluttered and muddied and all that.

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Speaker 9: His vision and his quickness has got to be able

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Speaker 9: to help the offensive line when it's not block clean.

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Speaker 9: And that's where I think Daubtle's different. I think when

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Speaker 9: it's not block clean, you can find it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And that's the thing. That's the thing.

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Speaker 10: You're starting to become one dimensional and that's not good. Like,

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Speaker 10: you have to be able to put on tape a

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Speaker 10: few plays because right now, I don't think.

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Speaker 8: Any nobody is scared of running a game.

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Speaker 7: Exactly.

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Speaker 10: Nobody's scared of you of the running game. Nobody is

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Speaker 10: looking at that as a threat. So you have to

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Speaker 10: put something on tape a few plays.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I think that is the traditional way you look

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Speaker 6: at football. But right now, if you go across the

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Speaker 6: best teams in the NFL, which ones of them have

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Speaker 6: a scary running attack?

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Speaker 16: Uh?

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Speaker 8: I think I would worry when you're about the top teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking about the top teams in Miami.

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Speaker 8: Miami scares me running the.

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Speaker 6: Ball, by the way, Yes, you can put Miami that

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Speaker 6: category just across the board. Their offense is scary everybody.

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, question, Yeah, yeah, you get me one.

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Speaker 2: But Kansas City, no, Philadelphia no.

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Speaker 6: Like you go down the.

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Speaker 10: Line, you have guys with names that you're like, oh, Baltimore,

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Speaker 10: we have to.

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Speaker 6: Be But Tony Pollard is that guy too. He has

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Speaker 6: a name, Like he has a name, he hasn't. My

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Speaker 6: point you said guys don't have a name. But my

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Speaker 6: point is like, I don't think anybody's going into the

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Speaker 6: game against Kansas City and saying, man, Pacheco, I don't know,

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Speaker 6: I don't know we're gonna do with that Pacheco.

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Speaker 8: Like, I don't think that's the case.

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Speaker 6: I think there are a ton of teams out there

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Speaker 6: that are at the top of the league that you

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Speaker 6: look at their running game and you're like, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 6: you don't want you still need to stop the run

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Speaker 6: because if you don't pay attention to them, maybe they

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Speaker 6: can get some some gash runs on you. But the

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Speaker 6: fact of the matter is their passing game is everything.

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Speaker 9: I would I would think maybe I'm wrong about this.

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Speaker 9: I believe there's a lot of defensive coordinators. Now we

942
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Speaker 9: all talk about turnovers all the time. If you gave

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Speaker 9: them a choice between having turnovers or not giving up

944
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Speaker 9: chunk plays. They might say they'll take the chunk plays.

945
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Speaker 9: Please don't let me give up chunk plays, you know,

946
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Speaker 9: please don't let me turnovers. I mean, a lot of

947
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Speaker 9: teams are to the point now where we just can't

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Speaker 9: get people to turn it over. But we ain't gonna

949
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Speaker 9: give up any big plays, you know. We're just not

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Speaker 9: gonna let you. We're gonna make you. One thing teams

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Speaker 9: have figured out with the Cowboys too is make them

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Speaker 9: drive the ball. Make them drive the ball down the

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Speaker 9: field and eventually and a lot of teams will make mistakes.

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Speaker 9: They'll get a holding, you give them a sack, you know,

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Speaker 9: you get a penalty.

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Speaker 8: Something will stop a drive. You know.

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Speaker 9: I think a lot of teams are kind of thinking

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Speaker 9: of that about not just you know, playing the defense,

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Speaker 9: not to give up huge chunk plays.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's a wrap. We will be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: We'll wrap this thing up and we'll let you guys

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Speaker 6: know what we thing's gonna happen this Sunday to live

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Speaker 6: for Brian brought us in Amber Garciam Derek Eilton. This

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Speaker 6: has been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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