1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Michael Very Show is on the air. 3 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that means it's Friday. 4 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 3: We're so glad you're here with us. It's an honor 5 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: to have you here with us. 6 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 4: Now. 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 5: I want you to take a moment, as you drive 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 5: or do whatever you do, take a deep breath and 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 5: let this wash over you. And you know what, if 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 5: we might even give you some Shirley c Licker to 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 5: start the show. 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 6: Today, Heavy day, heavy. 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 7: Day, Oh penny War, When Chito's War. 14 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 8: Save away locky? Happy day or happy day? 15 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 9: Or a happy day? 16 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 7: Vinchito's War, Oh penny War, When Jo's war? 17 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 8: Shee the way he loved. 18 00:01:45,840 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 9: The happy day? 19 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 6: A happy day. 20 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 7: Or a happy day? Winter those wars? F Oh whenny 21 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 7: war Winter war. 22 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 6: Three years away? 23 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 9: He need a love. 24 00:02:51,280 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 6: Happy day, epy dy. 25 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 7: Happy, oh happy. 26 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 6: Happy? 27 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 7: When do you the wool? 28 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 6: When he wool? When the. 29 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 9: Seed the. 30 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 6: Hay day? 31 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: Oh good girl, Jimbo. Let's start the show, shall we. 32 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: Just to get us in the right mood. 33 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 5: Everybody relaxed, breathing, laughing, enjoying with a bit of nostalgia. 34 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 5: That always brings happiness to the people. And that is 35 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 5: our very own Shirley Cue liquor. What does Shirley Ce 36 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 5: have to say for us today? 37 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: How you daring this show the cute liquor? 38 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 10: I am the constituency congress Lady at large of vary 39 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 10: in Texas, micah bert at hometown. I had went to 40 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 10: this discovery conference on the Democrat Party. That crackhead lady 41 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 10: Cockade Jasmine or whatever name is. She was giving us 42 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 10: tips on how to act black. I never had that 43 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 10: there before. But she said, okay, Number one, use the 44 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 10: word play especially, don't play with me. She said, that's 45 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 10: the number one rule. Number two, she said, don't touch me. 46 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 10: She said that somehow invoke your constitutional rights to be 47 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 10: not bothered by the police. 48 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 9: Do not touch me? 49 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 4: What she ever said? Number three? 50 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 10: Oh, when you try and make a parent about something, 51 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 10: even if you do not know what you was talking about, 52 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 10: it is importent to clap your hands. This don't matter 53 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 10: whether you testifying in come or is you a Supreme 54 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 10: Court justice or if you just a colored lady want 55 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 10: to have a dispute with the manager Popeye's girl. It's 56 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 10: like find the I got some clearance from a woman 57 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 10: who know what they're doing. 58 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 4: Could I ask this question yes, what what you got? 59 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 11: Why she talk like she erdyite and speak English when 60 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 11: she get on the road and have her fingernail dead 61 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 11: and then she gonna talk like she from the fifth board. 62 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 4: She's an actress. 63 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 10: Do you understand what the actress is? 64 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 4: Actress? 65 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 10: Because a lady who do a thing that they not 66 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 10: meant to to revolve and revolving revolution themselves. 67 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't really care. 68 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 11: I don't care about the news, but I need my 69 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 11: EBT card. I guess they had my snigger boys and 70 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 11: a Pepsi co love and all these other things. My 71 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 11: snow balls is in my moss voice is showy c 72 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 11: You can guarantee me that. 73 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 10: I can't guarantee a damn thing these days, girls, tea 74 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 10: from the floor. 75 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 12: I truly believe that the worst thing that ever happened 76 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 12: to America was slavery show, and the best thing that 77 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 12: ever happened to slavery was America and the Republican Party. 78 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 5: However, sometimes tell my I will give you the subject matter, 79 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 5: and you tell me how that doctor. 80 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: Is known. 81 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 5: Okay, A doctor of the heart cardiologist is correct, a 82 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 5: doctor of skin epidemiologist is incorrect. You were thinking of 83 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 5: the epidermal. Try that again. The I don't know if 84 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 5: it's Greek or Latin word meaning skin is derma. Dermatologists 85 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 5: don't ding it. Now I know the correct answer. A 86 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 5: doctor of let's say, joints and bones. That's not doctor. 87 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 5: Feel good, I'll give you it is the word meaning 88 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 5: straight orthopedic. 89 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 3: I will give you that. I will give you that. 90 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 3: I'm being nice. I'm being gracious today. A doctor of 91 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: all things brain. 92 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 5: Craniologist is incorrect. Again, go to the root word meaning. 93 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 5: The good thing about science and medicine is most of these. 94 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 5: Go to the Greek, Greek or Latin root words. What 95 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 5: does it mean to relate to the brain or to 96 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 5: thought processes? The central what system relates to that nervous system? 97 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: So it is a. 98 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: No. 99 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: I am not giving you credit for that. 100 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 5: A doctor who deals with children is a pediatrician correct. 101 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: A doctor of the eyes ophthalmologist is good. 102 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 5: An optometrist handles your vision and setting you for glasses, 103 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 5: and optalmologists with the medical issues, surgeries and the light 104 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 5: of the all important eyes. A doctor of your mouth 105 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 5: and your teeth that is a dentist. I will give 106 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 5: you that little tougher. A doctor of your kidneys. Nephrologist 107 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 5: is very good. I didn't expect you to get down. 108 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 5: A doctor of surgery, that is a surgeon crush your gut. 109 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 5: A doctor of cancer. You should know this living in Houston, 110 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 5: the cancer capital, the cancer. 111 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 3: Oncologist is correct. 112 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 5: A doctor of the mind and mental conditions shrink is 113 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 5: a no. A shrink is a huh. Psychiatrist. 114 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 115 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 5: A psychologist cannot write you a prescription for the good stuff. 116 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 5: Doctor of the liver, doctor of the liver. 117 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: H E p A is your root. 118 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 5: Hepatologist, hepatologist, A doctor of women and lady girl parts, 119 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 5: gay nycologist, it is you, weirdo. 120 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: A doctor of the stomach, gastro enterologist is correct. I 121 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: did not think you would get that, all right. 122 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 5: This one is one that Mary taly Boden calls herself 123 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 5: a doctor of your ears E n t is technically correct, 124 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 5: that's ear nose and throat. But this is an ologist 125 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 5: of some sort. 126 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: What would that be? 127 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 5: Remember she refers to herself as an otolaryngologist, and a 128 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 5: doctor of animals, the veterinarian, and finally a doctor who 129 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 5: deals with the lungs. 130 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: Pull monologist is correct. 131 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 5: My dad is going to the same pullmnologist who treated 132 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 5: my mom here in Houston's name is Tim Conley, great doctor, 133 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 5: great bedside manner. He came highly recommended from the doctors 134 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 5: I trust. But it's interesting to me because my dad 135 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 5: had never seen him. And my dad, having worked at 136 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 5: a chemical plant with asbestos, had advanced asbestosis, although we've 137 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 5: been able to treat that pretty well through steroids and 138 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 5: breathing treat once over the years, but he had never. 139 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: Seen this doctor. And when when we'd bring my mom over. 140 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 5: To see the promonologist, doctor Conley, by the time he 141 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 5: saw her, she was pretty far advanced. So my cardiologist 142 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 5: Dan Dutman and my puminologist Tim Conley, we're seeing her, 143 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 5: but we were on the backside at that point because 144 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 5: her condition had advanced rather rapidly, or her overall health 145 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 5: had deteriorated. She had a condition of ALS, and basically 146 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 5: we were trying to treat it as some sort of 147 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 5: we don't know if it was a back problem, we 148 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 5: didn't know if it was a lung problem, but it 149 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 5: was basically, as you know, ALS is a decline in 150 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 5: the musculature and the function of your systems. 151 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: It's a horrible, horrible horrible way to. 152 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 5: Go and so nothing would perform the way it was 153 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 5: supposed to and they couldn't figure out why. So there 154 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 5: was testing on. But last week we took my dad 155 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 5: to doctor Conley now that I've moved in to Houston, 156 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 5: and we needed to get a baseline on his. 157 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: Lung condition. 158 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 5: And when I called doctor Conny to go see him, 159 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 5: he said what's wrong with him? And I said, right now, nothing? 160 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 5: And he said, okay, what am I seeing for? I said, 161 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 5: I'd like to get a baseline because he had a 162 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 5: doctor in Beaumont. I'd like to see where he is 163 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 5: so that if we since we're in a decline, we 164 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 5: got something to work against. And he said, Michael, nobody 165 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 5: does that. I wish everybody would do that. And so 166 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 5: there is my plea to you. I'm not lecturing you 167 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 5: on health matters. Lord knows I could take better care 168 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 5: of myself, but I've gotten a lot better. I do 169 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 5: read a lot, and I will tell you this. There 170 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 5: are certain health conditions that are likely to be a 171 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 5: problem if you live long enough, and the earlier you 172 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 5: can get a baseline in your body on your blood pressure, your. 173 00:14:54,560 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: A one C, your lungs, your heartbeat. Things are very important. 174 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 5: Your testosterone, These sorts of things are very important to 175 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 5: understand where you are at thirty so that if at 176 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 5: forty six you notice, you know, it feels like I'm 177 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 5: having this problem. If they test you and they go, well, 178 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 5: this is lower than it should be, you don't know 179 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 5: if it's always been low, or you don't know if 180 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 5: it used to be at perfectly normal function and now 181 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 5: it has degraded to this point. Because the trend lines 182 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 5: are everything. The earlier you can get in and get 183 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 5: your report, hold on to it because you might move, 184 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 5: you might change doctors. 185 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 3: Your doctor might die, your doctor might retire. 186 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 5: Go in and get all of those Go in to 187 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 5: my memorial hearing folks, if you want a doctor for 188 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 5: all of those things. Whether I have a doctor Tim Conley, 189 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 5: the lung doctor that I recommend, is not a show sponsor. 190 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 5: Stan Duckman, my cardiologist, not a show sponsor, but Jim 191 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 5: Munts my general mo with Kara my eurologist. 192 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: I am believers in these guys. 193 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 5: But go in and get your numbers checked and hold 194 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 5: on to that so that later you got something to 195 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 5: compare against to see if you have declined or not. 196 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: You can't get that time back. It's like before and after. 197 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: Picture Southern Pride, Southern Fride Michael Berry Show. 198 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 5: After September twelfth, I received a number of calls from folks, 199 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 5: emails from folks people had to be talking to, and 200 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 5: they would say, I didn't realize what turning point was, 201 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 5: or I just knew the name Charlie Kirk, but I 202 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 5: didn't know that much about what he was doing. 203 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: And then to a person they said, but. 204 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 5: I've gone back and looked at the YouTube videos and 205 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 5: this man is doing something amazing. It's incredible what he 206 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 5: was doing. And then they talk about, you know, being 207 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 5: hopeful that this will launch this organization even bigger, which 208 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: is of course what Charlie would have wanted. And I 209 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 5: have referred to him as he said that he wanted 210 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 5: to be remembered as an evangelist, and that is such 211 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 5: a powerful thing, not a political organizer. 212 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 4: An evangelist. 213 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 5: He was a political organizer, he was a cultural force, 214 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 5: but he was an evangelist and that's the most important thing. 215 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 5: And as I've said, he was an evangelist on par 216 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 5: with Billy Graham, and I mean that we have another. 217 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: Evangelist with us today. 218 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 5: It's our honor to welcome to the program for the 219 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 5: first time, Turning Point Pastor Lucas Miles. Welcome, good sir, hey, 220 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 5: thanks for having me on new book, Pagan Threat, Confronting 221 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 5: America's Godless Uprising. I always ask what to say. I 222 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 5: always start interviews like this, discussions like this with the 223 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 5: first the same question, what do you hope to accomplish 224 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 5: with this? 225 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 13: Yeah, I hope to bring awareness to I think an 226 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 13: imminent danger in this nation that's already really among us, 227 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 13: and it is what I would call this pagan threat. 228 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 13: As honored to serve Charlie Kirk for the last eighteen months, 229 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 13: I ard you, yeah, you know, kind of introduce this 230 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 13: concept talking about him, and I've been the senior director 231 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 13: of TPSA faith overseeing the faith arm of Turning Point 232 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 13: USA underneath his leadership, and it's you know, I have 233 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 13: more result now than ever, obviously through the lens of grief, 234 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 13: but we know what the mission is, and Charlie understood 235 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 13: this threat. I believe ultimately it's this threat that took 236 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 13: his life, and that is an intentional esurping of Christian 237 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 13: values and the dominant Christian worldview in this nation. To 238 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 13: replace and supplant it with a post Christian and pagan 239 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 13: ideology for a very intentional purpose, in order to have 240 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 13: Marxism embraced. Marxism cannot coexist in a Christian society. They're 241 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 13: antithetical to one another. But if you can supplant and 242 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 13: deconstruct that Christian worldview and replace it with a marx 243 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 13: or with with a pagan worldview, and demoralize the American people, 244 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 13: now you have a shot of getting Marxism accepted. And 245 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 13: so we're seeing a very intentional, bought and paid for 246 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 13: revival among a you know, those who hold to a 247 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 13: false ideology to try to counteract. 248 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 4: I believe what God's doing in this nation. 249 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 5: So obviously we have this conversation in the shadow of 250 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 5: the Mamdani election. How does that affect a book that 251 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 5: you would have completed before it was clear he was 252 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 5: going to win. 253 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so you know, Mondani was. 254 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 13: I think a perfect example of this is that we 255 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 13: have this intersection of several things at once. We have 256 00:19:52,400 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 13: this intersection of specifically, you know, Islamicists and a Marxist 257 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 13: and these two things don't really you know, work together. 258 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 13: Muslims and Marxists don't have the same playbook, but we're 259 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 13: seeing with this Marxist overlay a. You know, it's sort 260 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 13: of the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and 261 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 13: they're finding ways to work together and to even co 262 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 13: identify together to gain momentum. 263 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: When you understand that the engine. 264 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 13: That's driving so much on the left is what is 265 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 13: known as the Hegelian dialectic, and basically what Hagel put 266 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 13: out there was the German philosopher that you have in 267 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 13: order to move forward in history and gain progress, that 268 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 13: you have to have conflict, and that conflict is driven 269 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 13: by what he called the thesis of the day, basically 270 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 13: the dominant worldview colliding with the antithesis, and that you 271 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 13: intentionally introduce the antithesis or the purpose of creating that 272 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 13: conflict in chaos, because on the other side of that 273 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 13: will be a melding and that will be this synthesis 274 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 13: that comes out on the other side. So if we 275 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 13: do this very quickly, you have capitalism. Free market at 276 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 13: one time was the thesis of America, and you put 277 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 13: against that the opposite, the antithesis, which is socialism, and 278 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 13: what do you get on the other side, You get 279 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 13: democratic socialism, and so that becomes kind of this new 280 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 13: thing that has the language of the free market, but 281 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 13: is still being driven by the radicalism. 282 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 4: Of the socialist agenda. 283 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 13: We've seen the same thing happen with Mandani, where it is, 284 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 13: you know, democratic socialism has become kind of the norm 285 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 13: in a place like New York City. That's what the 286 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 13: average person on the street holds to. Now what's the 287 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 13: opposite of that. The opposite of that is the islamis estate. 288 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 13: That is a total you know, totalitarian, religious, elegant movement 289 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 13: that is completely antithetical to this socialist, you know position. 290 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 13: But you put those two things together, and now you 291 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 13: have a candidate on the other side that's electable because 292 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 13: he's a democratic socialist Muslim, and so he has the 293 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 13: form and the language of a democratic socialist but the 294 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 13: agenda of an Islamicist. And now he's in position to 295 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 13: be able to be mayor of New York City and 296 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 13: drive that that radicalism further into kind of the ethos, 297 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 13: you know, of that of that city. 298 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk wrote the intro to the book, how does 299 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 5: what goes through your mind when you look at the 300 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 5: book and you see his name as the forward author 301 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 5: of the forward. 302 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 13: You know, this is uh, it's difficult, you know, I mean, 303 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 13: I the book came out the week after Charlie was martyred. 304 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 13: That was pre scheduled. You know, it had been pushed 305 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 13: actually several times. Was originally going to come out in 306 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 13: the summer, and there were delays with publishing and everything 307 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 13: else that happened all the time, and it got pushed 308 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 13: until until September. 309 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 4: And you know, just. 310 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 13: Knowing first off that Charlie understood the threat and he 311 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 13: understood what was at stake every single day, and yet 312 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 13: he was still willing to place himself in positions to 313 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 13: be able to influence the younger generation, even at the 314 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 13: risk of threat of life and personal peril. And you 315 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 13: know he did this day after day, sometimes three and 316 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 13: four events a day. I mean, Charlie worked harder than 317 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 13: anybody that I had ever seen. And he was the 318 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 13: most integrity filled person. What he said from you know, 319 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 13: the microphone is what he lived in his real life, 320 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 13: and it's how he led, you know, as a boss 321 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 13: and a leader and a visionary and and I'm honored, 322 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 13: it's it's it's kind of forever entwined us in many ways. 323 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 4: But there's there's nobody else. I'd rather have part of 324 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 4: this book than him. 325 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 13: It's obviously helped fuel a lot of the success of 326 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 13: the book is even his involvement with it at that time, 327 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 13: and it's it's I can't help, but just you know, 328 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 13: see that what the enemy intends for evil, God, God, 329 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 13: you know, looks for ways to bring good on the 330 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 13: other side of that. 331 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 4: And certainly this. 332 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 13: Revival and this movement and the awareness that's happening, you know, 333 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 13: it gives me more hope for this nation and for 334 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 13: the Gospel. Knowing that people are waking up and I think, 335 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 13: you know, recognizing their need for a savior and the 336 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 13: importance of the Cross. 337 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 5: You use the word revival, and as a good Southern 338 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 5: Baptist to grow up on the revival circuit, that's what 339 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 5: I have described it as. I don't remember a revival 340 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 5: in my lifetime on this scale, and I relate it 341 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 5: all to what happened and the good work of TPUSA. 342 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 5: Our conversation with Pastor Lucas Miles about his book Pagan 343 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 5: Threat Confronting America's Godly Uprising Stay tuned. 344 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 9: Mortar Cos this is for Michael Berry Show. 345 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: Pastor Lucas Miles is our guest. 346 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 5: He's written a book called Confronting America's Godless Uprising Pagan 347 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 5: Threat Confronting America's Godless Uprising, the forward by his friend 348 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 5: and TPUSA founder Charlie Kirk. Of course, we lost September tenth, Lucas. 349 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 3: Talk to me for a moment. 350 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 5: I know, we want to talk about the book, but 351 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 5: talk to me about how things have changed for Turning 352 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 5: Point USA after Charlie's I say assassination, you say martyrdom. 353 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 5: I'm very comfortable with that term as well. Talk to 354 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 5: me about how that has changed for the organization. 355 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, there has been a relse wild support 356 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 13: that has just encircled us here at Turning Point that 357 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 13: has really helped fuel the work that Charlie started and 358 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 13: the work that we continue to do. We are so 359 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 13: grateful for the prayers, the letters, the you know, our 360 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 13: don't are just you know, boots on the ground out 361 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 13: there saying how can I help. I mean, there have 362 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 13: been countless vigils around the country honoring Charlie. 363 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 4: In the days and weeks that followed his death. 364 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 13: There have been, you know, just a just a massive 365 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 13: influx of pastors and churches that want to get on board. 366 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 13: We had just to give you an idea about four 367 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 13: thousand churches on September tenth that were already part of 368 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 13: TPUSA Faith. We have since gone to eight thousand churches. 369 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 13: We have doubled in sixty days what it took us 370 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 13: several years to. 371 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 4: Be able to build. 372 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 13: And so we are growing at an exponential rate right now. 373 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 13: And we have a deep bench. You know, Charlie. Nobody, 374 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 13: nobody is going to be Charlie Kirk. There's nobody that 375 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 13: can fill his shoes. 376 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 4: There's nobody that can be exactly who he was. 377 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 13: And he fulfilled I believe, a divine purpose in his generation. 378 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 4: He did what he was called to do. His life 379 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 4: was snuffed out. 380 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 13: Early because of an evil you know, violent you know, 381 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 13: agenda and force and and and individual that you know 382 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 13: took it upon himself to try to silence Charlie. 383 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 4: And and it's it's demonic. 384 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 13: But I will say that that, you know, Charlie gather 385 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 13: around himself a very a very deep bench of people 386 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 13: who were like minded that that that had the same 387 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 13: result that he had, the same heart that he had. 388 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 13: And we are bound together, you know, to to see 389 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 13: his mission continue. And I always say to Charlie. You know, 390 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 13: Charlie knew how to build and find gladiators. And that's 391 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 13: really when you look at TPUs A and TPUSA Faith. 392 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 13: The individuals here are a lot of them are very young. 393 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 13: I'm I'm you know, I'm probably I'm at forty six. 394 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 13: I'm on the top end of the scale here over 395 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 13: a turning point, you know. But it is our staff, 396 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 13: even though they're young, they are so dedicated, so wrong, 397 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 13: has so much grit and they just don't stop. And 398 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 13: this is the spirit that's always been here at turning point. 399 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 13: It's the spirit that's going to continue. I think it's 400 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 13: even stronger now than it's ever been before. And so 401 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 13: you know, certainly we're serving through the lens of grief 402 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 13: right now and that's not just going to go away. 403 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 13: But we're in great hands our c suitees and amazing 404 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 13: Erica now has been you know, Charlie's Willow has been 405 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 13: named as a CEO. I spent a little bit of 406 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 13: time with her this week and some meetings, and she 407 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 13: is she's just amazing. It's obvious that God's hands on her. 408 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 13: She is just resilient, She's dedicated to this mission. She's 409 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 13: you know, just blocking out the noise, and we're just 410 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 13: getting to work doing you know, this job of not 411 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 13: only you know, creating the most conservative generation, but from 412 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 13: my department standpoint, in the faith department, the most Christian generation. 413 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 4: And we're not going to stop till we accomplish that. 414 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: I do believe that. 415 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 5: And what's fascinating, and I've said this many times and 416 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 5: obviously Donald Trump recognized it. Charlie Kirk was not only 417 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 5: saving souls and teaching about the fundamentals of American virtue, 418 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 5: but he was doing that to an audience that typically 419 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 5: we've not been successful at reaching. And that's what made 420 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 5: this so incredibly special. Lucas, I will get back to 421 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 5: the book, but tell me how you got involved with 422 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 5: all of this, and I would be interested in your testimony. 423 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely so. 424 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 13: I've been pastoring the same church for going on twenty 425 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 13: one years now in just outside of South ben Indiana, 426 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 13: near the University of Notre Dame, and that's born and 427 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 13: raised in that area, had moved away for a while, 428 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 13: started preaching at seventeen, planted the church at twenty four, 429 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 13: and I'm still doing that today in my mid forties. 430 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 13: And I had been brought into the ecosystem of Turning 431 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 13: Point USA and TPUSA Faith. 432 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 4: I think that one of the staff here had. 433 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 13: Gotten a hold of one of my previous books called 434 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 13: The Christian Left that came out kind of around COVID, 435 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 13: exposing a lot of the infiltration of progressive thought within 436 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 13: the church and kind of calling out some of the 437 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 13: early iterations of woke pastors and things. And they brought 438 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 13: me into a couple of pastor summits where I spoke 439 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 13: at for TPUSA Faith and had the opportunity to kind 440 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 13: of slowly build a relationship with Charlie. I first met 441 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 13: him in twenty twenty, and you know, by twenty twenty 442 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 13: three had a pretty good rapport that had developed with him, 443 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 13: had been on his show a couple times, had done 444 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 13: an event with him that he brought me in where 445 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 13: he interviewed me for about an hour plus in front 446 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 13: of a big audience, and on my book Woke Jesus, 447 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 13: and was just always so open handed and generous, and 448 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 13: although we were doing somewhat similar things on the faith side, 449 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 13: there was never a spirit of competition. He was just 450 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 13: always like, you're like minded, let's empower you, Let's get 451 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 13: you out there and he just helped use really the 452 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 13: platform that he had built and to amplify the work 453 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 13: that I was doing. It was it was very remarkable 454 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 13: and uncommon, even in the Christian space for somebody to 455 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 13: be that generous. He had shared with me privately a 456 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 13: little over a year and a half ago that that 457 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 13: they were, you know, working on some things in the 458 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 13: faith department, and he really had a vision for the 459 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 13: need for a pastoral figure kind of at the helm 460 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 13: of TPUSA faith to lead the staff on a day 461 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 13: to day basis and really kind of have one foot 462 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 13: in operations and one foot in the pastoral doctrinal oversight, 463 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 13: you know, of where we were going. And previous to 464 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 13: this had been a lot of operational you know direction 465 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 13: kind of boots on the ground, but less so on 466 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 13: the pastoral you know role, And so he kind of 467 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 13: created this new position. And he told me that they were, 468 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 13: you know, beginning to search, and I had shared with him, 469 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 13: I said, you know, very happy and where I was 470 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 13: totally not thinking about anywhere on my bingo card of 471 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 13: having working for Charlie Kirk on there, I just said, hey, 472 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 13: if you need help that ining't somebody, let me know. 473 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 13: I'll fly out here on my own dime, make sure 474 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 13: you find the right fit, and kind of share with 475 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 13: them a couple of thoughts that I had on what 476 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 13: they needed to look for, and he said, I might 477 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 13: take you up on that. And about three weeks after 478 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 13: he called me and said, hey, I found somebody. 479 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 4: It's you. When can you start? 480 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 13: And and so I was completely caught me off guard, 481 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 13: But I knew as soon as the words came out 482 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 13: Charlie's mouth that it was a god It was a 483 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 13: God ordained moment. And my whole experience with Charlie felt 484 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 13: like that. It just always every moment felt special, every 485 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 13: moment felt unique. There was just something on his life, 486 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 13: and he had just seemed to have no wasted time, 487 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 13: no idle moments, and just you know, lived his life 488 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 13: so efficiently in doing what God had called him to do, 489 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 13: from how he learned to how he you know, shared 490 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 13: with others, to how he spent time with his family, 491 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 13: like he was just so intentional and taught me a lot. 492 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 13: Even though I'm you know, I had fifteen years on him, 493 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 13: I learned I learned a tremendous amount from him just 494 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 13: watching him and being around him. 495 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 4: And so I've been. 496 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 13: Honored to be on the team now for about eighteen 497 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 13: months overseeing our faith operations, and we're excited about what 498 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 13: comes next and just did keep it hit the legacy going. 499 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 5: We've been on the phone for fifteen minutes. That's the 500 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 5: entirety of what I know of you. But I can 501 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 5: already see what he saw in you. And it's amazing 502 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 5: that great people surround themselves with great people. And that's 503 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 5: how you build even bigger things. And you don't worry 504 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 5: about who gets credit for things. You can't bother to 505 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 5: be jealous. You build something big and great, and I 506 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 5: can see that. I do want to talk about the book. 507 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 5: I owe you that just one moment. Pastor Lucas Miles 508 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 5: is our guest. The book is Pagan threat, confronting America's 509 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 5: godless uprising.