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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where cash Money Records is still

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Speaker 1: and always in style. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I am here

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Speaker 1: at the University of California, Irvine with my friend Jordan

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Speaker 1: Rodrieg to watch a Saints practice, to talk about the

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Speaker 1: NFC South, and to just bathe in the New Orleans vibes.

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Speaker 1: Even though we're in southern California.

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Speaker 2: I know it could not be a more perfect day.

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Speaker 2: You've already almost hit me with your hand twice. Gorgeous

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Speaker 2: do some football.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why cash money popped in my head

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Speaker 1: right there, but I was in college during the rise

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Speaker 2: In case you did not know, because he hasn't said

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Speaker 2: it sixteen thousand times, Greg went to Tulane for college.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk news. Unfortunate, So the setup for this show

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Speaker 1: is gonna be fun. We're gonna talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: of news. I wasn't going to, but unfortunately we have to.

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Speaker 1: Then we're gonna talk about why I love the NFC

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Speaker 1: South more than you, Why.

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Speaker 2: No, no, why I, okay love the NFC South more

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Speaker 2: than you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well just speak on that maybe just why it's

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Speaker 1: disrespected and it deserves it.

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Speaker 3: Why I love it more than Greg.

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Speaker 1: And then we're gonna have a number of interviews with

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Speaker 1: some fun Saints players, Chris Olave, Cam Jordan's coming on,

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Speaker 1: Justin Reid, and Juwan Johnson. So looking forward to all those,

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately we got to start with the Los Angeles Chargers,

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Speaker 1: who found out on Thursday that Rashaun Slater, their great

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Speaker 1: left tackle who just signed a market setting contract just

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, is lost for the season

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Speaker 1: with a torn patel attendant and this whole idea this

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Speaker 1: off season that they were going to do a better

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Speaker 1: job protecting Justin Herbert. Unfortunately, you know, goes down at

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Speaker 1: training camp practice with their very best player, Rashaan Slater,

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Speaker 1: basically the item of news that you just don't want

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Speaker 1: to hear this time of year.

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Speaker 2: It's so tough because not only I was down there

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Speaker 2: a few days ago at Chargers camp, and the cohesiveness

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Speaker 2: of the group, the way that they all were communicating,

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Speaker 2: the size of the group. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 2: team that looks as badass as it expects to be

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Speaker 2: this year, and to lose him, that the cornerstone of

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Speaker 2: it's heartbreaking.

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Speaker 3: You hate this, like the number one thing you hate

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Speaker 1: I've tried not to even say it on the show,

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Speaker 1: but it's been in my mind the last two weeks

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Speaker 1: that it's been a quiet camp for players suffering serious injuries,

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Speaker 1: especially you know, big time players like Rashan Slater. So

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Speaker 1: what are the Chargers do here? You know, they said

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Speaker 1: They have Joe alt their first round pick from a

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Speaker 1: year ago when Slater was out of practice. Earlier in camp,

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Speaker 1: Joe allt was flipping to the left side on ESPN

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Speaker 1: dot Com. You know, their beat reporter does believe that

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Speaker 1: that's the move that they will make going into the season.

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Speaker 1: Joe all goes to the left side. Trey Pipkins, who's

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Speaker 1: And then I look at the interior line where this

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Speaker 1: So that's different. But obviously without Slater, it just feels.

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Speaker 3: Like it's deflating Greg and we're just back to where it.

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Speaker 1: Hasn't this happened, Like I feel like something like this

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Speaker 2: It might be even worse, and I will say I'm

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Speaker 3: I hate this for their fans. I hate this for

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Speaker 2: The thing is, though, is that Jim Harbaugh took over

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Speaker 2: this passing game, this run game. Get physical, these big,

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, great coaching is what.

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Speaker 2: You do and how you develop talent in the instance

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Speaker 2: the regular season, try to figure out what you do next.

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Speaker 3: So, okay, Jim Harbaugh, you're up. How do you coach

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Speaker 1: Right? And they do have Jamari Sawyer, who played pretty

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Speaker 1: voicing some of the Chargers fans frustration that after their

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Speaker 1: obviously you couldn't have prevented this, but it's a lot

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Speaker 1: the Chargers one thing I know that Herbert's happy about.

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Speaker 1: At least that's there. It's fun.

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Speaker 2: I will plug the Great Daniel Jeremiah and the Great

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Speaker 2: bringing up the talk of these veteran receivers who will

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Speaker 2: How maybe you can pull it extra tight end up

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, DJ, he doesn't say things unless he knows things.

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Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you got a little Keenan Allen in a

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Speaker 3: And you know what, when DJ speaks, I listen.

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Speaker 2: I kind of tune you out on those episodes, but

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Speaker 1: We will. We'll have the AFC West coming up soon

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Speaker 1: in your feed, so check it out because he's got

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Speaker 1: a great bit related to Gino Smith. All right, I'll

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Speaker 1: get to our NFC South Big conversation. Matthew Stafford is

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Speaker 1: although our insider Ian Rappaport reported it he got an

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Speaker 1: to make the team, I obviously want to mention it

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Speaker 1: was so nice to my son at the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: Will Hernandez is back in the NFL on the Arizona card.

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Speaker 3: And the mustache is mustaching.

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Speaker 1: I will send out the picture which is framed in

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Speaker 1: the two of them. All right, let's talk about the NFC.

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Speaker 3: South, which I love more than you.

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Speaker 1: We're here and you know, we just had Tupac in

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Speaker 2: I think it adds a little something something to our broadcast.

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Speaker 1: And obviously two box not you know, like a Southern rapper.

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Speaker 1: here behind us for a division that I love with

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Speaker 3: Why we love it, Why wouldn't you get an advantage?

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Speaker 1: Why it deserves consideration? I think like the ultimate reason

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Speaker 1: that Regionally, the division is so close to each other,

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Speaker 1: it's all over. The division is more real and more

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Speaker 1: a lot of Super Bowls to go around in this division.

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Speaker 1: The Falcons, I don't need to tell you about their heartbreak.

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Speaker 1: The Panthers, since they've come along, have been good but

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Speaker 1: haven't gotten over the hump. The Saints got their one

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Speaker 1: that the Bucks have had a couple, but it's like

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Speaker 1: that's why I've always loved the divisional matchups and I

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Speaker 1: think I think it's very changious.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I will point out that you

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Speaker 2: were talking on our NFC episode the other week about

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Speaker 2: picking which you know division you wanted to do, and

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Speaker 2: you were shocked.

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Speaker 3: And I found it multitude.

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Speaker 2: You have so much nuance to you, Greg, So I

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Speaker 2: will say I really do love the NFC South, unlike

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Speaker 2: people who are sort of faking their passion for it.

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Speaker 3: I love how.

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Speaker 2: Chaotic it can get. The Bucks are again yet again

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Speaker 2: the favorite here. But anything could happen, because anything often

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Speaker 2: does happen. It's a good old fashioned slat fight half

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Speaker 2: the time between these teams, and they get so intense

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Speaker 2: and so testy with each other, and the just the

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Speaker 2: the unpredictable nature of how these NFC South intra division

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Speaker 1: Right the Bucks, there's a lot of talk about, Wow,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks. I think they're underrated. We've talked them up,

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Speaker 2: And what I love about the NFC South more than

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Speaker 2: we won't start fights. Baker will absolutely start his fair

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Speaker 1: Like I might have like a little tongue in cheek

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Speaker 2: The best story last year was his comeback, his confidence

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Speaker 1: then saying top fifteen receiver, which just isn't that dramatic?

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Speaker 1: I mean top third thirty two divided by three, that's

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Speaker 1: like eleven or point three. I go top ten.

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Speaker 2: Coming from coming from where the Panthers were a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago, I think they would take it in.

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Speaker 1: A hard just giving you a note, I think just

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Speaker 1: go top ten at that point, that's are you? Are

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Speaker 1: you also ten point six six six six?

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Speaker 3: So this is this is how negative cycles perpetuate.

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Speaker 7: Greg.

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Speaker 3: You were hurt, now you hurt me, hurt people, hurt people.

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Speaker 1: I get it sometimes like like a little bit of

447
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Speaker 1: hurt is healthy. Uh, think about that.

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Speaker 2: That's the NFC South in a nutshell, babe.

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Speaker 1: We will take a quick break. We are going to

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Speaker 1: be back on the other end, uh with the New

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Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. That's gonna be me with a rapid fire

452
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Speaker 1: bunch of interviews. Excited about that, and then Jordan is

453
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Speaker 1: gonna join me on the back end of the ship.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we are here with the outstanding defensive end

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Speaker 1: of the New Orleans Saints. Cam Jordan, a man who

456
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Speaker 1: is also a podcast host Off the Edge with NFL

457
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Speaker 1: Media CAM, like where your feelings hurt? It all that

458
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Speaker 1: the podcast group didn't go along in the ESPN package.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought I was being absorbed as well.

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Speaker 5: You know, my podcast sponsored by you know, n A

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Speaker 5: Fund Network and iHeartRadio, And I guess it's still sponsored

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Speaker 5: by n Fun Network and iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I don't it is. I mean, it's in the it's

464
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Speaker 1: in the press release and it says the NFL still

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Speaker 1: owns a bout. I think that's a good thing. I

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Speaker 1: think they think we're doing such a good job CAM,

467
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Speaker 1: they want to keep it going into the future. How

468
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Speaker 1: how has it been, by the way, being like a podcast, oh, slash.

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Speaker 5: Player, a podcast life has been wonderful the first couple

470
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Speaker 5: of years when it was me and Mark and there

471
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Speaker 5: was a tandem. You gotta love a good duo, you know.

472
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Speaker 5: Then when you go solo, it's not as fun when

473
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Speaker 5: you're talking to yourself because now you're truly talking to yourself,

474
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Speaker 5: like you know, like at least if you live stream something,

475
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Speaker 5: you gotta chat you're talking to you got to you

476
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Speaker 5: got your you know, you gotta you got Batman, you

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Speaker 5: got guess, Yeah, there's Batman and Robin, but you know,

478
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Speaker 5: Batman Robin used to work together, right, you know, Batman Nightwing.

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Speaker 1: I feel that I just the whole thing is on

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Speaker 1: your shoulder. If it doesn't go well, guess whose fault

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Speaker 1: it is. You can't really blame anyone.

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Speaker 8: You can't blame anybody about yourself. No, you blame me, producers.

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Speaker 8: You fed me the wrong information. He was a seven

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Speaker 8: time prolo Bowler're not eight time pro bowler. Gosh darn it, Batman.

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Speaker 1: No, we got we got the best in the business

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Speaker 1: helping you, including Chris pa Bonus sometimes on the off

487
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Speaker 1: the edge team. Ah, you guys look great out there today.

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Speaker 1: It was the places defense. I know, I know it

489
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Speaker 1: wasn't like a heavy day of practice, but that looked

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Speaker 1: like a defense.

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Speaker 5: That's that was like the five team periods. I know, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it. You know, you gotta after me. I

493
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Speaker 5: guess there's another guy who's in the podcast space as well.

494
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Speaker 5: We're all just podcast family. Jew Shan Shan Jew.

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Speaker 1: Like, tell me about how this defense feels different maybe

496
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Speaker 1: than last year, not like comparing. It's just like a

497
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Speaker 1: lot of different players, not in terms of the scheme

498
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Speaker 1: and everything, but it's a lot of new players.

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Speaker 8: On this there's there's a lot of a lot. You know,

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Speaker 8: you bring in Justin Reid.

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Speaker 5: Uh, you got Julian Blackman, that complete new backfield in

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Speaker 5: the safety area. Right, you have the surgeons of koul

503
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Speaker 5: A mckinstreet heading to a second year. Looks like he's

504
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Speaker 5: dialed in. Alante Taylor heading into what here four now

505
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Speaker 5: love it Ran Jack Yeah, man and a vocal leader.

506
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Speaker 5: You can feel it on the field. Uh, Justin Justin

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Speaker 5: Reid came in with the commanding presence. Of course, you

508
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Speaker 5: got Pete Warren or Tomorrow Davies. I feel like Jalen

509
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Speaker 5: Ford as well as DeMarco Jackson is having having great camps. Uh,

510
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Speaker 5: we bring in you know now now our D tackles.

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Speaker 5: I think you can label them defensive ends or something

512
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Speaker 5: like that. What if you want to label just know.

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Speaker 8: R D line is is hulked up.

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Speaker 5: You know, guys, guys are getting bigger, stronger.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're a big, big group. Yeah, Brandon Staley

516
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Speaker 1: likes those big guys up front.

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Speaker 5: No doubt got it. Type edge edges six four and above.

518
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Speaker 5: You know Carl Grandison's sixty five, Chase Young sixt' five.

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Speaker 5: Cam Jordan is a short one of the bunch six

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Speaker 5: four gosh darn it.

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Speaker 9: Bat Man.

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Speaker 1: Has them like five five five six. Although I felt

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Speaker 1: I felt better watching your Blake group, he was like

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Speaker 1: he was closer than myself.

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Speaker 8: He gives everybody hope. He's like, yo, that's your that's

526
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Speaker 8: a football. You know, he's a kicker. There's a difference,

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Speaker 8: you know, Like.

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Speaker 1: I can tell my son, though it's not his fault,

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Speaker 1: the genetics, I can tell my son like che Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely So.

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Speaker 1: You've been in New Orleans forever.

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Speaker 7: I have.

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Speaker 1: Been a short time resident of New Orleans. I went

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Speaker 1: to college at Tulane and I have a.

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Speaker 8: Lot of love good old Tulane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. For the city. How has living in New Orleans

537
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Speaker 1: this long changed you?

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Speaker 8: Man? All my kids is from there.

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Speaker 5: Remember wipe down a good old Magnoli Yeah, the five

540
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Speaker 5: before special Man. Everything that I've wanted to accomplish happen there.

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Speaker 5: You know, while this dreams have been accomplished there, I've

542
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Speaker 5: got one dream left, and that has to win a

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl. Because other than that, if I've done it all,

544
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Speaker 5: I've done, done, done at all. It's been a blessing.

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Speaker 1: Don't you feel like New Orleans is just a little different.

546
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Speaker 1: So I think for people that haven't spent that time

547
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Speaker 1: in New Orleans, what do you think is different about

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Speaker 1: playing there as a professional athlete living there than then

549
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Speaker 1: in different places.

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Speaker 5: The fans live, breathe, eat football. They made no gap assignments.

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Speaker 5: Like when you think about you, we come from the

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Speaker 5: West Coast, you go to the South. We like football

553
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Speaker 5: on the West Coast, you know, we like we we

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Speaker 5: appreciate athletics.

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Speaker 8: It's an event to go to.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, in the South, we are they're looking

557
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Speaker 5: forward to Sunday, Like the only reason they're happy about

558
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Speaker 5: Fridays is because Sunday is coming faster, you know, like

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Speaker 5: it's who we play. They got their scheduled down, they've

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Speaker 5: got the jerseys that they're gonna wear two of the games.

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Speaker 5: They've got they've got their rituals of like what chips

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Speaker 5: they eat before each drive. There is there is a

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Speaker 5: tradition in New Orleans and it's nothing but the Saints.

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Speaker 1: And when you're you know, playing against this offense then

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Speaker 1: and today, for sure, it was a good day for

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Speaker 1: the defense.

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Speaker 8: And that's what it was a good day for the defense.

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Speaker 1: In my mind, right, is there part of you that's

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Speaker 1: almost like, all right, we gotta we got to bring

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Speaker 1: this offense along too. We gotta bring these young quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: along as a as a leader.

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Speaker 8: This through the fire, Through the fire.

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Speaker 5: You know your your sharpest, your sharpest metals are are

574
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Speaker 5: repeatedly made from the fire. You forge it in the fire.

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Speaker 5: You know you you remelt, and you do it again.

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Speaker 5: There's a technique to that. I forget what it's called.

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Speaker 5: But we're to meddle here that eventually this is gonna

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Speaker 5: sharpen up to where we're gonna be quite a fine

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Speaker 5: blade against other people.

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Speaker 1: You're you're asking the wrong guy. Although I did watch

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Speaker 1: the reality show where they do the where they're cooking

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Speaker 1: with the fire and the art, I'm totally forget where

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Speaker 1: they're bending the glass like glass blowing. Those are some

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Speaker 1: real artists, if you say so, that's some real people.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I am not. I'm not one of the martisans.

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Speaker 8: I do not know.

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Speaker 1: I just I just thought you might. You might know

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Speaker 1: that a renaissance man. All right, wrapping up, do you

589
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Speaker 1: are you paying attention to your numbers? I thinking about

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Speaker 1: that partly because Canton just happened, and I was thinking, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, someday at some point they'll be talking about

592
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Speaker 1: your numbers, and they'll be talking about the different numbers

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Speaker 1: do you pay attention to, like your sack totals and

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Speaker 1: all that different sort of stuff.

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Speaker 5: Of course, in the off season, I've always said off

596
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Speaker 5: season was a time to appreciate accolades, and then season

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Speaker 5: is it time to appreciate getting after the quarterback.

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Speaker 8: I'm right on the cuffs. But you know, I've seen

599
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 8: I've seen weaker, weaker Hall of Fame classes.

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm on the I'm on the I'm trying to

601
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Speaker 5: be on the fence about like, hey, congratulations, everybody gets in,

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Speaker 5: but I'm.

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Speaker 8: Leaning on the All right, let's make it somewhere of

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Speaker 8: a standard.

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Speaker 5: If you're not like, for for me, linebackers, if you

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Speaker 5: don't have total tackles, like I'm like, hey, you know,

607
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Speaker 5: like he has to be greatness by longevity, not greatness

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Speaker 5: by splash of.

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Speaker 1: It depends how splashy that splashes, because like Sterling Sterling Sharp,

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Speaker 1: for instance, like was so amazing.

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Speaker 5: To guys that the guys that in my in my mind,

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Speaker 5: you got a minimum nine or ten year threshold. If

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Speaker 5: you didn't make the mark, I'm not gonna lie to you,

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Speaker 5: that's just how I feel. But at the same time,

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Speaker 5: I'm not here to say that he's not worthy. In

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Speaker 5: my mind, I've always looked at the guys, the Chris Doleman's,

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Speaker 5: the John Randalls. I've looked at guys who played fourteenth

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Speaker 5: Michael Strahans, Julius Peppers, Bruce Smith's, Reggie White's guys played ten, twelve, fourteen,

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Speaker 5: fifteen years, and they were great for not only five

620
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Speaker 5: or six or seven or eight or nine, ten years

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Speaker 5: of greatness. I love that you've got You've got a

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Speaker 5: standard like six, seven, eight, nine Pro Bowls, not you know, like.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to hear. Oh, he had three years.

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Speaker 5: Where he was untouchable, all right, what was the other

625
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Speaker 5: three year he was if he hadn't been hurt and

626
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Speaker 5: he didn't have and he didn't have any.

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Speaker 1: Man Sterling Sharp taken him. His teak is so amazing

628
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: that if you're that dominant, then you get a little

629
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Speaker 1: extra at it. I hear you that that.

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Speaker 5: You got there was there was a there's a certain

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Speaker 5: outside linebacker edge type that may have gotten in some

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Speaker 5: years back that I looked at and I said it, well,

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Speaker 5: I guess I'm already worthy. Well, if you don't, if

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Speaker 5: you don't enter as a d line, if you're if

635
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Speaker 5: you're as an edge guy, if you don't touch one

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Speaker 5: hundred sacks, now's the anterior You dropped that number by

637
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Speaker 5: at least thirty.

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Speaker 1: People out there can do the research and findc who

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Speaker 1: that is. But yeah, if I were you, I would

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Speaker 1: look at that and he's really good. That's only that's

641
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Speaker 1: only gonna help me in the long run. Do you

642
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: pay attention note to your podcast numbers?

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Speaker 5: That's the absolutely I love my podcast numbers. I know

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Speaker 5: all of them. No, I love I love the idea

645
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Speaker 5: that I get to talk to my friends online. I

646
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 5: get to share these these experiences, uh with the world.

647
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Speaker 5: And in New Orleans, kids can listen to my podcast

648
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Speaker 5: and I have to worry about what's going on.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: They're like man like I get reprimanded sometimes because it

651
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Speaker 5: feels like New Orleans is such a familiar place, like

652
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Speaker 5: cam My son Will I heard you say, I said, oh,

653
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Speaker 5: you know what that is?

654
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Speaker 8: That is my fault.

655
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Speaker 5: I do try and do better, you know, and I

656
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Speaker 5: want to, you know, I want to be somebody that

657
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Speaker 5: everybody can look up to. But I do have a

658
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Speaker 5: good time on a podcast where you get to, you know,

659
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Speaker 5: let down the hair.

660
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Speaker 1: Well, he's gotta be joining us someday, whether it's NFL media,

661
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Speaker 1: whether it's ESPN, no doubt, I'm gonna where it's gonna be.

662
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you.

663
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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, it was sterling. Maybe it does if it applies.

664
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get you in trouble.

665
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Speaker 5: Shannon's gonna call me like you know, you're talking about

666
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Speaker 5: my big No, we're not talking about your big brother.

667
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Speaker 5: He's amazing. But if he's in, I think my dad

668
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Speaker 5: might be in. I'm gonna start rallying Steve Jordan for

669
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Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame. Top fifty Minnesota Viking Ring of

670
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Speaker 5: Honor electee time to be in.

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Speaker 8: The Hall of great and then we'll have a Hall

672
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Speaker 8: of Fame. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You never know. Sometimes you wait like twenty five thirty

674
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Speaker 1: years and then it happens.

675
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Speaker 8: I don't like that, you know what. Either way, I'm

676
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 8: before I stick the foot of my mouth that.

677
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Speaker 1: You've been a blessed freciate. We are here with Saints'

678
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: Safety justin Reid. Great to meet, yeah, great to talk

679
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: to you. You're saying like you felt like you barely

680
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: even practiced today.

681
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, it felt like we only warmed up and it's

682
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 9: already over.

683
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Speaker 1: Well, it hasn't been like A described this training camp

684
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Speaker 1: to me. Now you're out in California, a little different

685
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: to Louisiana, But what was it like back there?

686
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Speaker 9: Yeah, in Louisiana was like, honestly, it's about just building

687
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 9: the culture. It was about building a dog mentality because

688
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 9: when you getting heat in decks one fifteen day after day,

689
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 9: and you know what you're gonna get when you walk

690
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 9: out there like you're you're sweating. We did walk throughs

691
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 9: and your shirts drenched by the end of a walkthrough.

692
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 9: So practice was just about making sure one you prepare

693
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 9: the right way hydration wix. If you're not hydrated, you

694
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 9: don't stand a chance. And then just having that dog mentality,

695
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 9: being a physical team building camaraderie because we have a

696
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 9: ton of new faces on this team. I think like

697
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 9: two thirds of the roster is new and it's like

698
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 9: continue to build.

699
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Speaker 1: And you're one of them. And normally I would think,

700
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Speaker 1: you know you're coming in here at your eight right

701
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: for you, you know, you've been in the league, you've

702
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: seen some things, and you becoming you come over here,

703
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: you'd be like the veteran leader guy on this team.

704
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 1: But Tomorrio Davis has been on in the league for

705
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: fourteen years. Cam Jordan's been on this team for fifteen

706
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: straight years. So what is it like joining a defense

707
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: like that with that kind of leadership. What's the mix

708
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Speaker 1: been like?

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Speaker 9: I mean it's been huge. I mean we are not

710
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Speaker 9: short of experience by any means, especially on the defensive

711
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 9: side of the ball. And it's been cool that, you know,

712
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Speaker 9: we have so much experience that we can bring to

713
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 9: conversations talking about ball, what we want to do here,

714
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Speaker 9: what we want to do there, no one problem plays

715
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Speaker 9: that we've had from different systems that we played in

716
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Speaker 9: the past, and being able to talk it out before

717
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Speaker 9: we even get it, you know. So I think that's

718
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Speaker 9: really accelerated us gelling together as a defense.

719
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Speaker 1: Are you the one that's making a lot of the

720
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Speaker 1: communication and the calls? I know what, it's a new

721
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: defense with Brandon Staley. Does he give you that freedom

722
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: from your position to change things up from the field?

723
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Speaker 8: Yeah?

724
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Speaker 9: So yeah, the back end we were responsible for the

725
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 9: back seven coverage wise, and the linebackers are responsible for

726
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Speaker 9: the front and what they want to do pass rush

727
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 9: rising with the run defense and everything like that. So

728
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Speaker 9: Double D and Pete they control the front seven, and

729
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 9: me and Julian and Jay Howe we control the back seven.

730
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Speaker 1: And yeah, Julian Blackman you're referring to who also just

731
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: arrived here. And that's kind of an idea of like

732
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Speaker 1: what a new team this is. And yet watching you

733
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Speaker 1: out there, it felt like the defense, there's a lot

734
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Speaker 1: of energy, there's a lot of cohesion right now, there's

735
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Speaker 1: a lot of trash talking. Yeah, from to Mario, he

736
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: said he wanted us to write down that you guys

737
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Speaker 1: didn't let them in the paint all day.

738
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that is a fact, you know. And it's

739
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 9: really the way that Killen's built this group. He's been

740
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 9: really intentional about doing team bonding events and building chemistry

741
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 9: and making this space where guys are close enough to

742
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 9: challenge each other and talk trash to each other, you

743
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 9: know what I mean, and try and you know, bring

744
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 9: the breast out of each other. So been a ton

745
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 9: of fun, and we don't take it easy on each other.

746
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 9: We're out here to compete, we're not out here on vacation,

747
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 9: and it's just about continuing to sharpen that uh sharpen

748
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 9: that steal. So get ready to go on the field.

749
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Speaker 1: What's something you can take from your your experience playing

750
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: winning those Super Bowls, playing in the Super Bowls for

751
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs.

752
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Speaker 9: Number one thing is that it takes everybody, Like I

753
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 9: believe that wholeheartedly. It isn't just your your front line

754
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 9: first eleven guys to step on the field. At some

755
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 9: point in the season, You're gonna need somebody to step

756
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 9: up and they're gonna need to make a play that's

757
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 9: gonna win or lose you the game. You know what

758
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 9: I mean. You want every man to be prepared for that.

759
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 9: So over communication is never a bad thing. So over

760
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 9: communicate everything. Be loud, be assertive, even if you're wrong.

761
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 9: If you're loud and assertive and everyone's doing the same thing.

762
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Speaker 8: You know you're going to be all right.

763
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Speaker 9: But you just get rid of those busted plays and

764
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Speaker 9: you'll be able to play.

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Speaker 2: Go.

766
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Speaker 1: You gotta be right, though. You can't be assertive and wrong, right.

767
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Speaker 9: I mean, being assertive, being assertive and wrong is one

768
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 9: thousand percent better than being quiet and not saying anything

769
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Speaker 9: at all.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, okay, I love hearing that. I'm curious kind

771
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Speaker 1: of what a Brandon Staley defense is, Like, it's obviously

772
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: new for you here, but kind of what would you

773
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: say that the trademarks of what you guys are trying

774
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: to get accomplished.

775
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 9: Oh, he wants to want to play fast. He doesn't

776
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 9: want any thinking, no thinking. He wants everyone to play fast.

777
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 9: He wants it to be physical. He loves loading the

778
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 9: box with the big guys up front. Played a lot

779
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 9: of five down sometimes six down coverages, and those edge

780
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 9: players are just you know, out there to wreck havoc and.

781
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: You got a lot of them. I was thinking, you know,

782
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: you're a Louisiana guy, it just seems like it's a thing.

783
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, Honey Badger before you, but I feel

784
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: like a lot of Louisiana guys end up back on

785
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: the Saints. What is it? Yeah? What is it with

786
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: Louisiana with New Orleans that that kind of made you

787
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: want to come home?

788
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Speaker 9: I mean football, football is everyone from Louisiana. Those football

789
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 9: is like close to religion down there. You know, everyone

790
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 9: is going to know everyone's name that's on the field.

791
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 9: And you know what's crazy is when you get drafted

792
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 9: and you go through the process in my seven years,

793
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 9: Like it's not a thought that crosses your mind until

794
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 9: the opportunity presents itself. And it's like you start thinking back,

795
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 9: like when you know you're you're watching that two thousand

796
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 9: and nine Super Bowl and it's like what that did

797
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 9: for the entire state. And you know, I have friends

798
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 9: back home that dedicated the entire enshrinements, like a whole

799
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 9: room to that moment. You know, And then you know,

800
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 9: you get the opportunity to do and you think about

801
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 9: those moments and it's just such a cool opportunity.

802
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: You must have been at the age where you were

803
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: enjoying that. Where did you watch that Super Bowl at home?

804
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Speaker 8: Probably at my uncle Kevin's house.

805
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 9: Well, we have a family get together as a sixty

806
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 9: plus people. Yeah, and all of them know ball. My

807
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 9: mom is probably the biggest football fan in the family.

808
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's some Louisiana stuff that some New Orleans

809
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: stuff and a defense led Saints team that's kind of

810
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: turning it back to the old Saints back back when

811
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: I was younger. Justin read appreciate having y'all absolutely all

812
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: right here with the veteran tight end of the New

813
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints, Juan Johnson, Are you a veteran? I feel like,

814
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: get that next contract, you are a veteran.

815
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 7: I was just about to say, you just called me

816
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 7: a veteran. Edge made me feel so weird.

817
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: But I feel like the difference between a veteran and that,

818
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: and you can tell me if not is when you

819
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: get that nice second contract. That's the moment.

820
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, you could say that. I mean, I feel

821
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 7: like it's everybody's opinion. I feel he's also jacting what

822
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 7: a veteran is. I feel like, after like you've been

823
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 7: through a couple of coaches, it could be that year five,

824
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 7: after year five, maybe you know. I feel like when

825
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 7: you're getting up a little early and you're just like, man,

826
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 7: I don't know about this one. Today. I think you

827
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 7: could be considered a vet then, but I feel like,

828
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 7: you know, sometimes it's a little bit different, just depending

829
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 7: on the person. But yeah, it's just weird. Did you

830
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 7: call me a bet? I I just never thought about it.

831
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: I think so too, because it stuck up on me

832
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: when you signed that contract this offseason. I guess it

833
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I guess he's been in the league

834
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: that long. I think of you as a young player too,

835
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: were you. I don't know if surprise is the right word,

836
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: but did you expect to come back to.

837
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 7: New orl Honestly, No, and yes, long story, sure, I

838
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 7: was waiting for the Saints for a really long time, Like, man,

839
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 7: I want to be back, but you guys, you guys

840
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 7: haven't talked to me for so long. And then yeah,

841
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 7: like right before stuff was about to you know, going

842
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 7: to things, we had a conversation and they extended me

843
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 7: and I was super excited. So me and my wife,

844
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 7: we were just really excited to be back. My kids

845
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 7: are here, my foundation is here, I have a great

846
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 7: community here. Oh, we appreciate you Cam. Honestly, we just

847
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 7: have so much here in New Orleans and we just

848
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 7: want to continue to build with this community. And honestly,

849
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 7: I want to build this franchise. So that's what I

850
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 7: really wanted to do. And I want to stick with them.

851
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: What is that with contracts and like bosses and corporations

852
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: and they always they always do wait till the last minute.

853
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it's not like you're going in like

854
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 7: any other job. You like, I want to raise like

855
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 7: you're not going in and saying that, you know, I

856
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 7: was just kind of be impatient about the situation, and

857
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 7: I think they saw the value of me, and I

858
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 7: definitely saw the value in staying. And you know, I

859
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 7: really just wanted to be with the franchise. And obviously

860
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 7: I see what Kellen is doing and what he did

861
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 7: before and did Philly did the charge to the Cowboys.

862
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 7: He has a long rap sheet. It's great. And obviously,

863
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 7: you know, being with MS Benson and being with Mickey

864
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 7: Loomis and all those guys, and then I feel like

865
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 7: it was just so good. I've hass such a good

866
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 7: relationship with them, and I just want to continue that.

867
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I heard the scrimmage the other day was

868
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty six plays. So has that been

869
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: an emphasis like you're getting a lot of working in

870
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: a short amount of time.

871
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it was a surprise. I mean, honestly,

872
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 7: you know, when you look at the clock over there,

873
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 7: you're like, man, I think we're supposed to be done

874
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 7: at eleven, and it's eleven thirty. You're just like, WHOA,

875
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 7: We've been out here for quite a bit. You see

876
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 7: guys shoes swishing and junk, and you know, the pants

877
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 7: are all soaked. It's just like she you got here

878
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 7: for a minute, but it's some work that we need.

879
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 7: I feel like, you know, Kell's been really good with

880
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 7: taking care of our bodies, and I think it is

881
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 7: good to kind of simulate the game, and I think

882
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 7: that's something he's been really good about, is kind of

883
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 7: like simulating game like situations.

884
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: I took it as meaningful when I read that little

885
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: story that he had. You guys watching the Indiana Pacers

886
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 1: a little bit talking about past, you think it's gonna

887
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: be like a fast offense.

888
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, what you have to I mean, yeah, to think

889
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 7: about it, like Pacers only had one one superstar, if

890
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 7: you want to call him a superstar, and so you

891
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 7: know them just having like a superstar.

892
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna go back and let it get that.

893
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 7: I'm just saying some people may not. I think he is.

894
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 7: Some people may not. I tell you what, the dream

895
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 7: Team didn't. I mean, I mean that's all I'm saying.

896
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 7: They didn't even play the guy.

897
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't same thing. My guy, Jason Satum

898
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: was a.

899
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 7: Super very true which which I'm kind of frustrated about.

900
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 7: But besides the point, I mean, I think just having

901
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 7: a fast paced offense something that gets the defense on

902
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 7: their tows is something that it's definitely a change up.

903
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 7: You know, we have a change up, we have a

904
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 7: curve ball, and we have like a sob paced situation too.

905
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 7: So it's always good to like keep the defense on

906
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 7: the hills and not know what they're well not knowing

907
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 7: what we're going to expect.

908
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: So so you're figuring out who you're starting quarterback is

909
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: going to be. Tyler Shuck I thought had some moments

910
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: out there today, Spence, Spencer Rattler, You had your guys

911
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: on the move, certainly, I guess just like what have

912
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: you seen out of your your group, including Jay Cayner

913
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: this camp?

914
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, honestly, the one thing that I take

915
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 7: about is that all of them are so supportive. And

916
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 7: the thing is like I feel like in situations you

917
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 7: can kind of get like kind of like a vibe

918
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 7: from you know, each guy to just like they just

919
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 7: don't like seeing each other succeed. And that's not something

920
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 7: that I peep at all. From even the beginning of us,

921
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 7: even drafting Tyler and so all the guys have been

922
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 7: super supportive, super helpful. They even coach each other up,

923
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 7: and I think that's been the biggest thing about it

924
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 7: all is that a leader is going to be out

925
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 7: of this group. Whoever it is, Like, whatever, whatever guy

926
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 7: you want to have, he's going to be a leader.

927
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 7: And honestly, that's what you need. And whoever we have,

928
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 7: whether that's Jake Tyler or Spencer, I mean, you should

929
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 7: be really excited on who we're going to get.

930
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: I won't make you, you know, call out any former situations,

931
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: but I've definitely heard red seeing many a quarterback room

932
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: where they were not supporting each other. Well, yeah, we

933
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: get Caddy them.

934
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 7: We've heard some that said that, you know, he's not

935
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 7: there to you know, with coaching other people, and you know,

936
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 7: and and that's fair because he's also a fellow Jersey guy.

937
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 7: So I won't say I.

938
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: Think he's yeah Joe Flacco you're talking about, I think

939
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: he just sounds like he's gruffing. He's being honest. Actually

940
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: he's good behind the scenes. But back in the day

941
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: you did hear and read and see that him and

942
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: Lamar maybe when he was at a different point in

943
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: his career, it maybe wasn't as cool before before I

944
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: let you go, you got you got this weighted? Do sure?

945
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: Don you said, you know, now you're a veteran, it's

946
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: tougher to get out of bed in the morning. Stuff.

947
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: You're making it tougher to practice with.

948
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 7: The Yeah, it's something about adversary that you got to have.

949
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 7: And so you know, I just throw on a little

950
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 7: bit more weight just you know, I have a little

951
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 7: bit more restriction when you're playing out there. I feel like,

952
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 7: you know, it's kind of like a mindset thing. You know.

953
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 7: People ask like, oh, you have what five pounds, and

954
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, I mean it's just a mindset. You know,

955
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 7: you really don't feel you just go out there, you're playing,

956
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 7: and then you take your shirt off, and then you

957
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 7: feel like you you're like ten pounds ten pounds later.

958
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: So okay, But what if you like, I don't know,

959
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: you probably aren't reading like camp reports or anything like that,

960
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: But what if they were like, well, Juwan Johnson was like,

961
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: look at a little you know, like a little slower today,

962
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: Like look at a little five pounds heavier today, something

963
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: like that.

964
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 7: Right, Honestly, you know, I don't really read it that,

965
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 7: but I will say this, if somebody came up and

966
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 7: asked me, I'm like, well, hey, if I'm a little slower.

967
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 7: Maybe I need to work on getting a little faster,

968
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 7: and I still have this one, so I mean on game,

969
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 7: they'll look a little different, and I think that's probably

970
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 7: what matters.

971
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: Right. It's like it's like that donut on your baseball bat,

972
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: and you're out there and there there.

973
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 7: You know, you're out there and you're like warming up

974
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 7: and you're like one deck. You got the little donut

975
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 7: swinging us up, and then you go out there hit

976
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 7: a grand slam. Whatever the case may be. Nobody has

977
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 7: any questions.

978
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: It is the veteran, but he looks fresh and you

979
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: can check him out this season, this preseason. Juan Johnson, appreciate.

980
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 7: You, absolute appreciate you.

981
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: Man here with Chris Olave, the talented young Saints receiver,

982
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: a perfectionists. You weren't you weren't pleased with your practice

983
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: today as you were coming over here.

984
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, man, it's this first day out here, a

985
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 10: kind of high standard for myself. But we were going

986
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 10: to bounce back tomorrow.

987
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: Tough matchups though, cool kool aid mcinnistry, Alonte Taylor. I

988
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: saw on you different points today. What's it like been

989
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: going up against those competition?

990
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 10: Man? A great cornerbacks. Uh we go again. We go

991
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 10: up against each other every day. Uh iron Sharper's iron.

992
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 10: We've been doing that all camp. So Uh they went some,

993
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 10: I went some. But at the end of the day,

994
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 10: is a great competition.

995
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: Do you like all the talking they're doing?

996
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 8: I love it.

997
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: They do a lot. Do you do a lot of talking?

998
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 10: When I need to? I don't started, but if they

999
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 10: talked to me, I'll talk back.

1000
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: Okay. When I think of Chris o' lobby, like I

1001
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: remember when you came out in the draft and your

1002
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: route running and your ability to stop on a dime

1003
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: with some of those stop routes and just be so

1004
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: precise in that. How did you get that to be

1005
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: like one of your strengths? And would you agree that's

1006
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: one of your strengths. Just repetition every day.

1007
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 10: Especially going into college at Ohio State, Coach Hardline taught

1008
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 10: us a lot from our early age. Once I got

1009
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 10: there at eighteen years old, I learned that for three

1010
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 10: four years learning from him and the receiver room. Just

1011
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 10: being so deep, having that competition, watching everybody else work,

1012
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 10: it made me just work even harder. So, just like

1013
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 10: I said, just having that from eighteen years old and

1014
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 10: trying to sharpen it every year.

1015
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 8: Getting into league was an easy transition for me.

1016
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: Was there someone you liked watching while you were back

1017
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: in college to kind of learn the craft?

1018
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 8: It was really a lot of them. Really, everybody was

1019
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 8: good in the room.

1020
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 10: Terry McCloy and Perris Campbell auto older guys.

1021
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 8: I was in front of me.

1022
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 10: Uh, just watched him my freshman year then, and try

1023
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 10: to work on my craft every day, try to perfect

1024
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 10: my craft, so when my time came, I was the

1025
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 10: best I could be.

1026
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: You're now with Rashi Yahid like a lot of pop

1027
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: for him this training camp. What what have you seen

1028
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: out of him and his growth and how you guys

1029
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:22,479
Speaker 1: are gonna play together?

1030
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 10: Oh, he's great man. Once I saw him come in

1031
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 10: our rookie year. Uh, I think he was injured at first,

1032
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 10: but I've seen him working off to the side. I've

1033
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 10: seen he had potential to be what he could be

1034
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 10: in every year seeing him develop into a complete receiver.

1035
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 8: Uh.

1036
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 10: I'm excited for him, man, And he's humble as a person,

1037
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 10: and uh, I can't wait to see what.

1038
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 8: He does this year.

1039
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 10: Is it's a sky's a limit for him.

1040
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: So you know, I asked one of my friends is

1041
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: a Saints fan, Like I, why should I ask some

1042
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: of these guys? You got anything you want and you

1043
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: want to know, Like how does Kellen Moore offense help

1044
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 1: you help Chris o' lobby? Like what is it new

1045
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: or different? And what how this offense is structured? Uh

1046
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: that you think can can help out your game?

1047
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 10: Man, he puts his he puts the players in great positions.

1048
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 10: So it's not really a scheme. He puts the players

1049
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 10: in great positions to win. He knows, he knows where

1050
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 10: we're good at, he knows where we're great at, and

1051
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 10: he puts he puts us in that position to be

1052
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 10: able to win on the field. So he looks at matchups,

1053
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 10: he looks at every part of the game, Uh, to

1054
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 10: have us succeed. And like I said, he puts this

1055
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 10: in great positions to be able to win. So I'm

1056
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 10: excited for this year and what he provides for us.

1057
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: Like offensively, it's a big change for this team. You

1058
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: know you were in a certain sort of scheme and

1059
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: that there was continuity in terms of the coaches that

1060
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: were there. Your offensive coordinator, Like, what is this new

1061
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: season been like for you? Like what what have you

1062
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: felt in the different could be anything, could be the scheme,

1063
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: or it could be the way you're attacking training camp,

1064
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: like the vibe of the team at anything that you

1065
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: feel like just.

1066
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 10: From top to bottom, Man, it's a whole different vibe,

1067
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 10: whole different energy. I love the energy around the building.

1068
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 10: I love the energy the coaches bring from the top

1069
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 10: to the bottom. Like I said, Kellen's done a great

1070
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 10: job and bringing everybody with him. Uh, he brought everybody,

1071
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 10: a lot of people from phillip Ophio. They just won

1072
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 10: the Super Bowl. So, like I said, just from the

1073
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 10: top to the bottom, the vibes and energy every everybody's

1074
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 10: body in the chemistry I'm on the team is great.

1075
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 10: So I'm excited for the future. I'm excited for the future.

1076
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 10: But the season's gonna be great.

1077
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: I feel like the Saints are not getting as much

1078
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 1: attention maybe nationally, So the people out there, you know,

1079
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: getting ready for this season, you think they're gonna be wrong.

1080
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: Tell them why they are going to be wrong if

1081
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: you think that.

1082
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 10: Man, We're not worried about the Dallas o world. Man,

1083
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 10: we just focused on ourselves. Like I said, we got

1084
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 10: a great, great roster on paper. We just got to

1085
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 10: keep building every day, build the chemistry along the team.

1086
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 10: So we getting those hard parts of the season. We

1087
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 10: got to lean on each other and and like I said,

1088
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 10: we developed that bond, that chemistry right now, so we

1089
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 10: get there, We're ready for that moment.

1090
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Chris o'lave, New Orleans Saints. All right, we

1091
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: are wrapping up all right day you servine with the

1092
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. Appreciate all the players coming on. That

1093
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: was awesome, Jordan. While I was talking to the players,

1094
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: you were you were doing some interviews for a future

1095
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: must read piece to be named later. So I'm looking

1096
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: forward to that. But we did watch practice together, and

1097
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, we've had ourselves in a Saint's mindset. So

1098
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: I guess before we go and I'm curious, like what's

1099
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: set out to you? What are you thinking about with

1100
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: this team?

1101
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean energy from the defense. You know, I

1102
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 2: thought that the quarterbacks actually had a decent day. There

1103
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: wasn't a lot of team periods today.

1104
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: By nature.

1105
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: Some of the beat writers were telling us that they're

1106
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 2: structuring practice is a little bit different under Kellen Moore,

1107
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: So today maybe less of a full on team period

1108
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: eleven on eleven workload, but they did get some short

1109
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: area work in eleven on eleven and the energy from

1110
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: the defense to Mario Davis at one point came over

1111
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: to the sideline and said, they're hoping and wishing after

1112
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: a breakup in the end zone. They're hoping and wishing,

1113
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: and then said, write that they didn't touch the paint

1114
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: all day. So I'm going to share it because he

1115
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: said I could, you know, he told us to.

1116
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was fired up. He's jumping up and down,

1117
00:48:59,360 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: and this.

1118
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: His defenses looks legit. The energy is there.

1119
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: The communication, the non verbal communication is what I was

1120
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 2: watching with the secondary because this is a Brandon Staley defense.

1121
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: And one thing I learned way back when in watching

1122
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: a defense coordinated by him is you have to watch

1123
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 2: the nonverbals, the hand signals, and that sort of ripple

1124
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: effective communication across the back half of the defense. And

1125
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: that is very much there right.

1126
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: They were using Danny Stutsman, the rookie who's reportedly had

1127
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: a nice camp. They've they've drafted some stuff to him.

1128
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: Great at that position, I was gonna say, if someone

1129
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: has some stuff.

1130
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 3: To him, Danny Stutsman got some stuff to him, he's got.

1131
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: Some stuff, and he was getting the first team snaps

1132
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: because the Mario Davis wasn't in there today, which is

1133
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: why maybe he was so vocal. And you look around

1134
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 1: the defense and you do see productive players in the past.

1135
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: You see a good mix of youth, and it can

1136
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: be a better than average defense. It's gonna need to

1137
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: be a renaissance season for you, boy, Brandon Staley.

1138
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, and I think it's it's going

1139
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: to be interesting. I like the partnership with him and

1140
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore.

1141
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 3: There seems to be they were communicating a lot.

1142
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 2: There seems to be a good sort of Hey, let's

1143
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: go out there and compete with each other, because they're

1144
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 2: really building this thing, combining a lot of older guys

1145
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: with some very very new pieces and then also such

1146
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: uncertainty still at quarterback, and so they're kind of just

1147
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: like building this miss mish mash of ecosystems together, and

1148
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: so you need to go out there and compete the

1149
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: way that we saw today, And I thought, honestly, I

1150
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: thought the quarterbacks, even though nobody scored credit to the

1151
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: defense in terms of getting to their reads getting the

1152
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: ball out, overall decent.

1153
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 3: Day, it looked like from the three rotating guys, I.

1154
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: Feel like there was there was one score. It wasn't there.

1155
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: There also was you know, the officials kind of gave.

1156
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 3: It it dropped.

1157
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: They dropped it on a scram, on a scram on

1158
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: a tip pass. There was a drop pass in the

1159
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: end zone. The quarterbacks were scrambling a lot. I saw

1160
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: more option plays than I would have expected, with Tyler

1161
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: Shuck running it with Spen. Ratler was on the move

1162
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 1: for much of the day. Jay Caner was holding onto

1163
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: the ball maybe a little too long in scrambling round.

1164
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: There was a lot of scrambling round. And that's the

1165
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: flip side of like saying the defense looks so good.

1166
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, what is real there? And what is

1167
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: them playing? An offense that's that's not totally.

1168
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: And that's where I do look at the way they're communicating.

1169
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily when I say they had the energy

1170
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: and they looked really solid, it's like, it's not like, oh,

1171
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: because they were making plays against an offense that's still

1172
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: figuring out what it is. The reason I say that

1173
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: is because that communication already seems very advanced relative to

1174
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 2: having a new coach entirely new coaching staff coming in

1175
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 2: and running this system. And I think that's what really

1176
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: stood out to me is that the chatter, yes, was

1177
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: there amongst each other and that colms together. But the

1178
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: nonverbal stuff, like I said, all I do when I

1179
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: come out here and watch any coach from this system

1180
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: their defense. I watched the hand signals and that's very

1181
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: much what was happening today.

1182
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: And they have a lot of smart players.

1183
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 8: You know.

1184
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: We talked to Justin Reid and they brought in Julie.

1185
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: One of my favorite players by the way to a

1186
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 3: long time.

1187
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: And YEA, yeah, you just think of like, I'm so

1188
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: jealous him, know how, in this group, I'm glad you're jealous.

1189
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: It's good to make you feel jealous every once in

1190
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: a while. Also, you're talking to some of the some

1191
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: of the beat writers that are covering the team, and

1192
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: then talking a little bit with the players here too. Look, look,

1193
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: I think if this offense is better than expected, and

1194
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: by that I would mean like, like, look if they

1195
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: finished the year twenty second, let's say in Dvoway and

1196
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: they're just respectable enough and the defense really plays better

1197
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: than people are like to the Saints I think that

1198
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,479
Speaker 1: is their path to relevance. It's going to be because

1199
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: of their running game, which actually today I thought looked

1200
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 1: pretty good. They haven't been repping the running game apparently

1201
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: in practice all that much, but today they did. It

1202
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: was kind of a special teams and running game, and

1203
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 1: I thought it looked good. It's a just a sight

1204
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: for sore eyes to see those Alvin Kamara I.

1205
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: Understeps and just how oh cool he still got.

1206
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: It natural a mover, he is gliding through the hole,

1207
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: and I thought he looked awesome a year ago. I

1208
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: think Kendre Miller is an X factor for this team

1209
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: because he's just given them nothing and the coaching staff

1210
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: is on him to stay on the field, and he

1211
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: is the healthiest that he has ever been, and so

1212
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: if he can give them a second explosive player in

1213
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: that backfield with Kamara, to me, he is pretty clearly

1214
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: going to be the two. But he has to stay

1215
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: healthy because they just need juice. The thing you worry

1216
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: about a little bit, and they are built to run

1217
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: up front in terms of their offensive line is just

1218
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 1: they just got a lot of like smaller, fast guys.

1219
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: And it's not a big Yeah, that's true.

1220
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: He had a move today where I really saw because

1221
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a ton of him, but I really

1222
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: saw his patience as a runner where his first block

1223
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 2: got closed off, but his first gap got closed off

1224
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: by the defense, and he hesitated just long enough, but

1225
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: he didn't hesitate in the way where he was moving backwards.

1226
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 3: He's almost moving sort of sideways through the air.

1227
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: And then he cut to the other side and he

1228
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 2: found a new crease, and I just thought, Okay, that

1229
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: guy's got something there that keep doing that. You know,

1230
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: hopefully your first GAP's open. But the elusiveness the patients

1231
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 2: and seeing what's available to him, you did see a

1232
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 2: little something there.

1233
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: Natural mover and he kind of touched on. That's why

1234
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm a little confused. Maybe it was seven on sevens

1235
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: when he kind of touched on, but he definitely kind

1236
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: of touched on today.

1237
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 2: Hearing elevens daring elevens, I'm gonna go with the Mario on.

1238
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: It was probably seven on seven when when they scored

1239
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: that touchdown. So yeah, looking at the Saints, I we're

1240
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: gonna check them out. Me and my son, we're gonna

1241
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: be in the crowd on Sunday, and.

1242
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 3: We love the NFC South looking forward by the way.

1243
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: We do, we'll see obviously, Like I was here last

1244
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: training camp and they were they were trying to like

1245
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,959
Speaker 1: talk themselves up, and I was like this, this team

1246
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: seems doomed. I think this year they're trying to talk

1247
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 1: themselves up and I do feel like a little better

1248
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: about it that it can be a nice start and

1249
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: if they they there is a path for them to

1250
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: go five and twelve and it actually be like a

1251
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: positive season. It's tough as an NFL fan to go

1252
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: into a season like that, but I think if they

1253
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: have a young developmental season and get the right mix

1254
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: of their young players getting better, that could be better.

1255
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be a tough team to play, honestly,

1256
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: because I do think that, yes, their record may or

1257
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: may not be what it is. We are all very

1258
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 2: realistic about this team and kind of where it's at

1259
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 2: and some of the places they really have to rebuild.

1260
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 3: If you don't have the answer at quarterback, you have a.

1261
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 2: Long way to go still. But they're going to be

1262
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: a tough team to uh smother. They're going to be

1263
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 2: a tough team to kind of beat down the way

1264
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 2: that we saw near the end of the season last year.

1265
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: I got a beef that they just got.

1266
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: They seemed just like like tired and just ready to

1267
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 2: just come on, like let's just get some energy back

1268
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: in here. And I it is training camp, but I

1269
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: really felt that energy today.

1270
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 3: And there's no fans here.

1271
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: So even having that self manifested, like making that yourself,

1272
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: not relying on people being in the crowd cheering you

1273
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: on to do it like that says something to me too.

1274
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. And on the Tyler shuck, is he getting rid

1275
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: of the ball? Watch? I thought that was okay today

1276
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:50,479
Speaker 1: there was like two.

1277
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 3: We had you in the first half. You can't lie.

1278
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 3: But he looked good near the end of the practice.

1279
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: First couple of snaps, he was doing the thing result

1280
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: onto the ball too much, but they actually moved the ball.

1281
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: I didn't think they looked bad. It was just the

1282
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: second they got close to scoring a touchdown it stopped.

1283
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: All right, we are gonna stop now. That was it

1284
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: for this show. We will be updating you on all

1285
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: the injury situations around the league. We are aware of

1286
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: the Anthony Richardson pinky situation, but we don't know what

1287
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. He took a hit where he was

1288
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: just no situational awareness and a bad job by the

1289
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: blocking there in Indianapolis. So we'll see if that series,

1290
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 1: we'll see if the Chauncey Gardner Johnson injury in Houston

1291
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: is serious. One of my favorite players. He was carted

1292
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: off of practice today. But we'll update all that when

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Speaker 1: we are back with you Sunday night recapping all the

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Speaker 1: preseason takeaways. You will next hear in this feed forties

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Speaker 1: in free Agents though Jeremiah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah here, by the way, I mentioned it earlier. I

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Speaker 2: hear this really good Greg roast in that episode. I

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Speaker 2: mean DJ told me.

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Speaker 1: Every time, I mean you should say it talk about

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Speaker 1: like a competition. You should be feeling the heat from DJ,

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Speaker 1: and people are gonna like those shows better. You gotta

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Speaker 1: watch out. Football's back.