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Speaker 2: I let my stepdaughter wear black to a wedding. My

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Speaker 3: I wonder why.

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Speaker 2: I'm male forty eight needs some input. My wife, Linda

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Speaker 2: female forty, was the maid of honor for my cousin,

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Speaker 2: Susan female thirty eight. We've been together for ten years,

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Speaker 2: married for seven, and we have two children together, male five,

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Speaker 2: female four, along with my stepdaughter Tiffany female sixteen. By

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Speaker 2: slash Okay story Time, Separate it sho. Tiffany is very

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Speaker 2: goth email she's pretty much only ever wearing black. Even

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Speaker 2: her pajamas will at least have Evil Hello Kitty on them.

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Speaker 2: No such thing. Linda is very detail an image oriented

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Speaker 2: gets very hung up on weddings. She was a bit

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Speaker 2: of a bridezilla at ours, and I joked that Susan

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Speaker 2: had made her maid of honor because she needed a

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Speaker 2: bridal attack dog. She wasn't amused, and I stopped making

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Speaker 2: that joke. In the time leading up to the wedding,

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Speaker 2: my wife was fighting with Tiffany over what Tiffany would

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Speaker 2: and Tiffany refused. Linda ultimately gave her an ultimatum to

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Speaker 2: one for her. Tiffany still refused to budge, and this

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Speaker 2: ended up with Linda going out on her own and

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Speaker 2: buying a peach dress that was completely outside of Tiffany's

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Speaker 2: made of honor duties had her with the wedding party

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Speaker 2: super early in the morning and gone all day. I

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Speaker 2: was going to meet her there along with my stepdaughter.

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Speaker 2: I dropped off her younger kids with my eldest daughter.

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Speaker 2: I did a couple of it quick errands, and I

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Speaker 2: got back to our house just in time to leave

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Speaker 2: if everything went smoothly. When I got there, Tiffany was

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Speaker 2: not wearing the peach dress, but instead she was wearing

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Speaker 2: a fancy black dress that was much more like what

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Speaker 2: she normally wears, lace sleeves, kind of a corset thing,

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Speaker 2: what I would have expected her to wear to a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's her wedding style.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I asked her if this is what her mom

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Speaker 2: it's too late to change. I tried telling her that

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Speaker 2: that there wasn't enough time and changing dresses would take forever,

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Speaker 2: and furthermore, that her makeup wouldn't match the other dress. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Tiffany does spend a lot of time on makeup, and

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Speaker 2: while I'm not an expert, I guess even I could

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Speaker 2: He's like, no, well, I don't know too much about

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Speaker 2: We just went with Tiffany and the dress she was wearing.

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Speaker 2: We arrived at the ceremony and Linda was kind of

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Speaker 2: as you might expect. People seemed mostly fine with her,

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Speaker 2: though Tiffany rode with me to the reception. She had

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Speaker 2: Apparently she drove herself and Tiffany helped her crash the party.

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Speaker 2: Her mom got on her again, but with a wedding

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Speaker 2: She told me to handle them and that they were

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Speaker 2: drawing too much attention. Black is fairly normal color to

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Speaker 2: where I've worn a black dress to a wedding. Sure,

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Speaker 3: Just like why do we care?

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Speaker 3: Year olds are a wearing to the wedding. They're sixteen,

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Speaker 2: They agreed to tone it down and they were more

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Speaker 2: subtle and subdued. Subdued after that, Bethany had a collapsible

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Speaker 2: camera standstick thing she had been setting up around different places,

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Speaker 2: out from underfoot too much. Linda gave me a few

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Speaker 2: the day. But she laid into me on the way home.

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Speaker 2: She was upset that I let Tiffany come to the

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Speaker 2: She said, I knew she was supposed to wear the

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Speaker 2: hear her tell about it, Tiffany was a total spectacle

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Speaker 2: and her appearance was totally inappropriate. Linda said that it's

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Speaker 2: never appropriate for a guest to wear black to a wedding.

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Speaker 2: That's false, that's false information. Where are you getting your information?

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Speaker 2: The only unacceptable colors that I know of or white

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Speaker 2: she was embarrassed and mortified, and that I let Tiffany

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Speaker 2: do whatever she wants. She said that I shouldn't have

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Speaker 2: cosplay event and the reception into their private photoshoot. I

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Speaker 2: think that's kind of fair. I think if they're like

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Speaker 3: To Sayemony, sure, but at the reception, I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if they're like being very disruptive, but.

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Speaker 3: The reception, yes, how do you be disruptive? That that's

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Speaker 2: I am saying, if they are being disruptive, But I

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Speaker 4: She's given me the energy of like these young kids

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, so what.

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Speaker 2: In my defense, yes, I knew they had been fighting

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Speaker 2: when I got home, Tiffany was already dressed. We didn't

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Speaker 2: or doing makeup. As I mentioned, she said that her

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Speaker 2: makeup wouldn't match the other dress. Anyway, She didn't draw

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Speaker 2: that much attention at the wedding. Sure she got some

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Speaker 2: looks she always does, but it was nothing major. Her

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Speaker 2: and her friend hardly turned the reception into a private

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Speaker 2: photo shoot. Mostly was just Bethany taking some photos, which yeah,

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Speaker 2: proves again they weren't even being disruptive. They were taking photos.

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Speaker 3: Oh did this?

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Speaker 2: A lot of people do. Tiffany did kind of awkwardly

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Speaker 2: but it wasn't enough to derail anything. You know what,

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Speaker 2: like a lot of people, we'll go up to the

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Speaker 4: Hey, can we get like a picture of you know,

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Speaker 4: this is just beef with because she's got because she looks.

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Speaker 3: Like she's different. Yeah, she's different there in the peach dress.

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Speaker 2: By that point, it seemed like he was just looking

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Speaker 2: the bill. The girls cooled it with their own photo setups.

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Speaker 2: After I talked to them, Linda complained about Tiffany having

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Speaker 2: a bouquet of fake black roses with her. When Tiffany

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it's this is Uh. Why are we giving

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Speaker 4: I feel like it'd be different. Yeah, you know, if

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Speaker 4: all right, now, this feels really pointedly disrespectful.

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Speaker 3: I agree, But this is, again, a teenager.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I've seen that same bouquet before. Susan

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Speaker 2: didn't even care that much if she noticed at all.

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Speaker 2: I've tried to Linda lots of times that lots of

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Speaker 2: more you end up getting drama and pushback. I'm a

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Speaker 2: bit more experienced in the area. I have two adult daughters,

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Speaker 2: twenty eight and twenty two, who are both total daddy's girls,

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Speaker 2: a little kid, probably because you're not like, super like controlling. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 4: And on the other side of that coin, look at

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Speaker 2: I've always had a great relationship with Tiffany even since

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Speaker 2: probably because I don't pick fights with her like her

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Speaker 2: She used to leave huge messes in the bathroom of

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Speaker 2: one to clean it. And it was fine. She'll babysit

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Speaker 2: for me when I ask. But again, her mom always

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Speaker 3: Many thoughts, No, not the a hole.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like you know, I did see some pretty

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Speaker 3: Wa there you go, and there you have it, folks.

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Speaker 2: She and I noted that it would have been much

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Speaker 3: Are you sure about that?

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Speaker 4: Because sure this version of her was taking photographs at

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Speaker 4: Of probably because she gets the sense whenever she's around

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Speaker 4: Oh, guys, don't we just even realize, like you're especially

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna be the same forever.

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Speaker 4: So it's all about just taking people as they are

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Speaker 2: I did have Tiffany go ahead and apologize to Susan

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Speaker 2: Susan hadn't noticed or known that Bethany wasn't invited. She's like,

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Speaker 2: I had my older girls. I guess it's not always

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Speaker 2: He's like, I want my little girls to be like

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Speaker 2: Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcast, or iHeartRadio and search up. Okay,

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Speaker 2: story time. Do you have any final thoughts?

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Speaker 3: No, I've said them all.

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Speaker 2: My final thoughts is I'm I'm at first when we

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Speaker 4: Think what that meant is and you should never make

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of negatives. Yes, it was also worth

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Speaker 2: I don't care much. Reply says truth. I wore an

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Speaker 2: That's on your parents, Na, Why did they let you

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Speaker 3: You're a crafty, little eight year old heart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you knew what you were doing.

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Speaker 2: It was my communion dress and the only fancy dress

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Speaker 2: The problem here isn't the wedding. It's that mom hates

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Speaker 2: says it really depends on where you are New York

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Speaker 2: Southern church wedding. Don't you dare?

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Speaker 3: How don't you dare?

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's like a cultural thing because I've never heard

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, maybe let us know to create a new

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Speaker 2: I know you will, and it's gonna be a secret wedding.

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Speaker 2: But that's the end of that story, folks. I feel

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Speaker 2: How much are you making a bit of background, My

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Speaker 2: girlfriend and I are thirty and thirty one, respectively. We

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Speaker 2: have been dating for about a year. I work as

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Speaker 2: a high level engineer at a good firm and my

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Speaker 2: girlfriend works as a payroll specialist at.

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Speaker 3: A good firm too.

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Speaker 2: I make significantly more than her three times. By the way,

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Speaker 2: this comes from throwaway trophy girlfriend And if you want

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Speaker 2: to spit your own stories, go to the r slash

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Speaker 2: Okay storytimes up at it. Things were good in our

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Speaker 2: relationship until I showed her my retirement and savings. She

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Speaker 2: now doesn't see the point of working and has started

445
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Speaker 2: framing our relationship in that she is the beautiful one

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Speaker 2: and I'm the nerdy engineer that was lucky to have her.

447
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Speaker 2: Before when we met, she was all about making it

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Speaker 2: her own way, eventually starting her own company with her

449
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Speaker 2: sister and sourcing and recruiting. But now she jokes about

450
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Speaker 2: driving a range Rover and wearing Lululemon and going to yoga.

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Speaker 2: We were having a discussion again about this trophy wife stuff.

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Speaker 2: She'd brought up that I was nerdy back in the

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Speaker 2: day while she was very popular. I told her she's

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Speaker 2: not a trophy wife. That yes, she's attractive, but it's

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Speaker 2: not a huge difference between us. I told her. Had

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Speaker 2: it been the case that I met her when she

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Speaker 2: was twenty two and I was my current age, then sure,

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Speaker 2: but she isn't twenty two anymore. After I said that,

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Speaker 2: she just started crying like crazy. She started saying that

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Speaker 2: I think of her as ugly and youthed up at

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Speaker 2: her best years are behind her. She just told me

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Speaker 2: that if I'm not happy to be with her, why

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Speaker 2: am I even here to stop wasting her time. I

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Speaker 2: tried to talk to her, but she was in no

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Speaker 2: state for a conversation. I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 2: Guys for me, I just wanted to say that I

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Speaker 2: think we're similar in attractiveness, Like I don't think anyone

468
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Speaker 2: when they see us turns their head and is like, Oh,

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Speaker 2: she's with them because of the money, or dang, he's

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Speaker 2: so lucky to be with her. I think it's mutual.

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Speaker 2: She was the one that if anything went after my

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Speaker 2: attractiveness first, What should I do? I like the fact

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Speaker 2: that we both work, and I don't want to change

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Speaker 2: that dynamic. And I don't want her to think too

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Speaker 2: that she is above me, that I'm so lucky to

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Speaker 2: have her. I want her to think of us as equals,

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Speaker 2: and in my attempt to do that, I hurt her feelings.

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Speaker 2: What's the next move? Top Common says, this seems to

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Speaker 2: be a very textbook case of psychological projection. Because of

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Speaker 2: your discription and see in salary, she likely feels she

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Speaker 2: is worth less than you. She likely feels like her

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Speaker 2: best years are behind her, seeing as you took off

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Speaker 2: and are only going up. Her poking around about her

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Speaker 2: being a trophy wife is seeking validation that she is

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Speaker 2: not worthless and that you still value her and her

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Speaker 2: financial contributions are nothing to be ashamed of. I don't

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Speaker 2: think she's a gold digger. I think she's taking some

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Speaker 2: hits on her self esteem, though no fault of your

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Speaker 2: or her own. I think some counseling would go a

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Speaker 2: long way here.

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Speaker 4: Edit.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all for your awards and replies. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: the recognition. There is a lot to unpack for both

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Speaker 2: the op and his girlfriend in this situation, but the

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Speaker 2: point is that is worth unpacking. Cheer stee Baum eighteen says,

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Speaker 2: I think that the trophy wife nonsense started when she

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Speaker 2: found out how inadequate her money is compared to yours.

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Speaker 2: She was slash, is ambitious, She wanted success and was

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Speaker 2: confident in her achievements when she found out that your

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Speaker 2: income created something that she wanted to accomplish, but is

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Speaker 2: now realizing that she may never get that type of

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Speaker 2: money or success. I think it's sent her into a

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Speaker 2: midlike crisis. Her new perspective demonstrates her desire to be

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Speaker 2: the best at something. The trophy wife you kind of

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Speaker 2: described above is a new visual successful image to her.

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Speaker 2: She has money, is beautiful, can wear the name brand clothes,

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Speaker 2: does yoga, and has a husband who appreciates her for

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Speaker 2: her looks because she is popular. These examples show that

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Speaker 2: she wants to be appreciated and successful in some aspect

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Speaker 2: of her life. I think she's going the superficial route

511
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Speaker 2: because she feels like she hasn't achieved the success she

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Speaker 2: wanted at her age. She isn't as financially successful as you,

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Speaker 2: her job is probably piqued in salary, and she needs

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Speaker 2: to feel needed, appreciated, and better than you in some way.

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Speaker 2: Three days later, a couple of things I want to

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Speaker 2: add to the people that said my girlfriend was a

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Speaker 2: gold digger. She has really climbed her own way from

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Speaker 2: university to where she is now and has a good

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Speaker 2: work ethic, like this is not just someone that their

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Speaker 2: whole life. Also to the people that said my girlfriend

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Speaker 2: lost motivation after seeing my wealth, she has dated guys

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Speaker 2: that made more than me. Overall, I wanted my girlfriend

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Speaker 2: to feel special, like she's the most beautiful woman the world.

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Speaker 2: But I don't like that she is above me, that

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Speaker 2: she is on a pedestal, and that I am this

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Speaker 2: inferior engineer. We had a discussion and things honestly just

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Speaker 2: got worse. I tried to talk to her, but she

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Speaker 2: was just bringing up the worst things I said to

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Speaker 2: her without any of the context of her basically calling

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Speaker 2: me ugly. Also, she brought up too that my dad

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Speaker 2: was awkward as heck yea, and now we're bringing them

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Speaker 2: parents into the conversation. She's like, you're ugly and your

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Speaker 2: dad's awkward. She brings up my comments about me, saying

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Speaker 2: that she would be a trophy wife at twenty two

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Speaker 2: but not at thirty. She goes on to say that

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Speaker 2: all the engineers she's met have a chip on their

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Speaker 2: shoulder for not getting laid when they were in college.

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Speaker 2: And she goes on to start saying that the bitterness

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Speaker 2: is coming out thinking that they're entitled to a hot

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Speaker 2: young girlfriend because they couldn't date them in college, and

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Speaker 2: that is why I made that comment, trying to tear

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Speaker 2: her down. Oh so he was like, yeah, maybe if

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Speaker 2: you were twenty two, that makes a little bit more sense. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like back when you were twenty two, you were hot.

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Speaker 2: Well I think maybe what he was trying to say

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Speaker 2: is like you were hot young girlfriend, maybe if you

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Speaker 2: were twenty two. But you're the same ages me, so

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Speaker 2: it doesn't you can't that's exactly. And she was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: she was here and I'm not hoked. I just got frustrated,

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Speaker 2: so I was like, yeah, I agree. I was never

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Speaker 2: able to get the hot girl in college, and even

552
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Speaker 2: with all the money I make, still can't get them now.

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Speaker 2: So unfortunately I have to go secondhand and with a

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Speaker 2: couple of wrinkles. Again. This just set things off where

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Speaker 2: she called me a misogynist for calling her second hand

556
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Speaker 2: not wrong, said that I treated her like a used car,

557
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Speaker 2: and pretty sure when she tells her friends about her fight,

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Speaker 2: that's what she'll tell them. I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 2: It was just ridiculous, like she started this whole thing

560
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Speaker 2: that I can't get the girls I supposed they really want,

561
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Speaker 2: Like she's the one making this whole dating thing and

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Speaker 2: to have and have nots. So if you want that analogy,

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Speaker 2: I'll play that analogy too. I just agreed with it,

564
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Speaker 2: and now I'm the bad guy. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: to do. She will say ten bad things about me,

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Speaker 2: that I was ugly, that I'm lucky to be with her,

567
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Speaker 2: but when I respond, she blows up and storms out.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the heck to do, Like we

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Speaker 2: had fights before, but this just seems to be impossible.

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Speaker 2: We had decent communication but for but now it's trash.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to do, Like, I am more

572
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Speaker 2: than open to talk without putting each other down, but

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Speaker 2: she really wants me to be in subservient position. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe in her past relationships she had that

575
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Speaker 2: power over guys where they were like, oh gee, I'm

576
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Speaker 2: dating someone so attractive, But I'm not okay with that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what she wants at this point. It

578
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Speaker 2: seems like she's looking for a reason to break up.

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Speaker 2: I know some people are saying breakup, but I really

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Speaker 2: was hoping to settle down soon. I hate the idea

581
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Speaker 2: of starting from scratch all over again and dating like

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Speaker 2: we had so many amazing times together and a good

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Speaker 2: idea of the future. Dude, is in the cost sung fuff.

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Speaker 1: Poof, we're wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like, oh, I can't getting the hawk girls.

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Speaker 2: Now a hot girl leave her. I was excited someone

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Speaker 2: beautiful and ambitious, and I got along with Well now

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Speaker 2: this two months ago we were talking about rings, how

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Speaker 2: many people we would have at her wedding, whether we

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Speaker 2: will send our kids to private school or not. By

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Speaker 2: the way, you can send your kids over to listen

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Speaker 2: of Okay story time. But there is a little bit

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Speaker 2: left to this story. Please send me your analysis of

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Speaker 2: the situation here it is break up with her. If

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Speaker 2: there's something from the female perspective I don't understand, please

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Speaker 2: tell me she doesn't like you. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: let this go without putting in my all. But I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to be in a subservient position. What should

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Speaker 2: I do? How can I handle this properly? And Alita says, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this relationship is over. There's no bouncing back from this.

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Speaker 2: Katie c x I says, unfortunately, I have to go

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Speaker 2: secondhand has a yaike stamped on it in one hundred

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Speaker 2: and four point font man And that's the end of

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Speaker 2: that stories, folks.

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Speaker 5: The more he really like doubled down on being like

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Speaker 5: and she's really not that great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was starting to be like, whoa, No, that's

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Speaker 2: something she doesn't like her either, right, Like, that's he's

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Speaker 2: an active participant in how unhealthy this relationship is. She

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Speaker 2: started the whole thing, but he's kind of like really late.

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Speaker 2: He's like, oh, oh, you're gonna hit me. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: hit you two more times. It's like, no, this is

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Speaker 2: not a boxing match.

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Speaker 5: Engineer brain being like, I really would like like a

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Speaker 5: detailed analysis.

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Speaker 2: Can you send that over to me please? I think

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Speaker 2: I did wrong. It's pretty easy, man. But that's the

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Speaker 2: end of that story.

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Speaker 2: I refuse to give up my wedding budget for my

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Speaker 2: sick brother. That's not in the budget. I have a

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Speaker 2: rocky relationship with my dad and his new wife, Karen.

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Speaker 2: My mom passed away when I was twelve, and my

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Speaker 2: dad remarried when I was fourteen. From the start, Karen

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Speaker 2: It So, when I was sixteen, I finally moved out

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Speaker 2: after a big fight. Karen sold my mom's grand piano,

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Speaker 2: stating we don't use it too much. That's actually crazy.

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Speaker 2: Those are grand pianos are like I didn't understand this,

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Speaker 2: but for the longest time, giano grampianos are so expensive.

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Speaker 2: They're like crazy expensive. My mom loves music and piano.

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Speaker 2: I love it too. That piano was a way for

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Speaker 2: us to bond when she was still alive. Oh. I

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Speaker 2: always play that piano when I miss my mom or

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Speaker 2: when I fought with anyone in that family. It was

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Speaker 2: one of the only Mom's possessions that didn't immediately go

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Speaker 2: missing when Karen moved in, probably because it was too

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Speaker 2: big for her to steal. Steal a holy grand piano.

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Speaker 2: My dad was shielding Karen from my anger, and I

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Speaker 2: told him that he was a horrible father. My stepbrothers

649
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: jumped in, saying that my father is the best dad

650
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: that anyone could ask for. I told them they were

651
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: not my father's actual kids and that we are not family.

652
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: Karen cried when she heard that, and I could see

653
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: that my dad was hurt by my words. I feel

654
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: guilty and was about to apologize, but before I could,

655
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: everything else escalated physically with John has tried to keep

656
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: things calm, but my dad chose to run after Karen. Instead,

657
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: I packed my things and stayed at my uncle's until

658
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: I was twenty when I moved in with my boyfriend

659
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: at the time. Wow, not once did my dad try

660
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: to reach out to me. I heard from a cousin

661
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: that my dad practically disowned me at a family reunion,

662
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: saying that the boys are the only children he has. Ouh.

663
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,239
Speaker 2: I met my current fiance twenty nine mail when I

664
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: was twenty three, and he proposed recently, we saved up

665
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: some money for the wedding, but not anything big. However,

666
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: my uncles from my mother's side chime in and give

667
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: me money in honor of my mother. I wanted to

668
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: save it, but they told me to have a grand

669
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: wedding and be the most important person that day, which

670
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: meant a lot. After years of my wants being ignored,

671
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: the wedding got upgraded by a lot. I invited my

672
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: grandparents and some cousins from my dad's side. Suddenly, after

673
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: more than a decade, Dad contact did me, suspicious, You

674
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: didn't ask to be invited, or apologized or anything. He

675
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: just heard I'm doing a big wedding and decided to

676
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: ask for money. Oh no, no, no, I'm sorry. Yeah.

677
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: We literally, I'm sorry you come back after a decade

678
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: of being trash. You should pay her back for the

679
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: like what you uh, the money that you made off

680
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: that piano? Yeah, buy her piano for her wedding. I

681
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: frankly was disgusted by his audacity and lack of remorse.

682
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: He asked for twelve thousand dollars. I told him I'm

683
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: sorry about John's condition, but I'm not giving him twelve

684
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: thousand dollars and to not contact me again. The next day,

685
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: Karen blew up my phone, calling me Falfesch and entitled, Wow,

686
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: that's a great way to get op to give you money.

687
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: My cousin told me that Dad and Karen go to

688
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: every single relative's house, including my grandparents, that night, and

689
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: told them to not come to my wedding or they

690
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: will cut them off. My cousins didn't care, but my

691
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: grandparents are stressing out over this. Some relatives think I

692
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: should downgrade the wedding and give Dad some money so

693
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: my grandparents can come without worries. Frankly speaking, I don't

694
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: even have half the money they asked for. Yes, the

695
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: wedding costs around sixteen thousand, but a lot of that

696
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: money comes from my uncles given to me for this

697
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: specific reason emphasized by them, So I don't think I

698
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: should use it for something else. What do I do?

699
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: Should I give them the money? My uncle gave me

700
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: more contact on my relationship with everyone before I moved out,

701
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: Dad deteriorating as I constantly begged him to take my side.

702
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: Karen bad because she would throw away or sell my

703
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: mom's possessions and pictures, trying to erase her existence. Has

704
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: civil He's one of the people that prefers not to

705
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: get involved in anyone's problems. He doesn't help me, but

706
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: doesn't fight me either. I guess apathy could also describe them.

707
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: John bad because he would pull pranks and sometimes it

708
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: got physical. He's also the type that would punch a wall.

709
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: I nail John. I nailed that when angry, so I

710
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: stayed away from him most of the time. After I

711
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: moved out, of course, all the relationships got worse, and

712
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: there is an edits and an update. Folks. But Carly,

713
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 2: what do you think GOP should do? Not give them

714
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: the money?

715
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 4: No?

716
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, absolutely not.

717
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 5: You've already sold all the mom's possessions. Yeah, she doesn't

718
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 5: get any of that money exactly, she doesn't have the money.

719
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they took all of your money or your

720
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: mom's money and stuff from like all those possessions and stuff.

721
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: We didn't talked to them in ten years. In ten years,

722
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: like emotionally they've distanced from you, and also they like

723
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: financially distanced from you. I'm assuming they weren't paying anything

724
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: after you turned sixteen, like they probably didn't pay for college. No,

725
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: and she moved out. Why would I ever help out

726
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: the family that disowned me? It sixteen, So yeah, don't

727
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: give these people. Now, go to the uncles exactly. Yeah,

728
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: the uncles gave you all that money, and they said

729
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: this is for the wedding. It's not for you to,

730
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: you know, help out your greedy ex family at it.

731
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: Adding info, People are asking if my grandparents know about

732
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 2: the harmful acts, I endured the answer is not yet.

733
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: When I moved out, I ran to my mom's side

734
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: of the family because I knew for sure that they

735
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 2: would take my side. No butts are saying, but he's

736
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: your dad bs my dad, and Karen told everyone he

737
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: disowned me because I lashed out at Karen with no

738
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: reason verbally abused my dad when he tried to de

739
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: escalate the situation and then ran away, even if that

740
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: was their excuse, Like, even if that was true, still

741
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: a lot of reason to disown a sixteen year old, right,

742
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: You can't just leave your kid out on the streets. No, yeah,

743
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Oh, she yelled at me. That's like typical

744
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: teenager things. My dad's family's very hush hush about family

745
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: matters and would talk behind the person's back and not

746
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: to the person. Horrible, I know, but human. Except for

747
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: my cousin, the same one from the story. Let's call

748
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: her Jane, so I don't have to refer to her

749
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 2: as only my cousin again. And her family dad, mom,

750
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: little brother. They are curious and not afraid to ask,

751
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: so they asked me to explain my side the second

752
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: my dad disowned me. Jane and her family might have

753
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: told others, but honestly, I don't know and don't care

754
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: if they knew back then. As far as why I

755
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: don't talk about it, well, First, the extended relatives, including

756
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: my grandparents, never ask, so it feels weird if I

757
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: just talk about it. Second, when I just move out

758
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: and everything a pain, exhaustion, sadness felt fresh. I wanted

759
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: to escape and didn't want to deal with Dad and stepfamily.

760
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: So I felt like if I defended myself and told

761
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: my story, I'm just inviting them to argue with me,

762
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: and I don't want that. So I stayed silent and

763
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: let people believe what they wanted. If they wanted to

764
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: be on my side, then I'll tell them, but then

765
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: let it be third. I do not know how they

766
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: will accept that story. Will they believe me? Will they

767
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: tell me that I overreacted. They would never tell me

768
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: that it's just in my head. They would never actually

769
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: tell me that it's just my head. So, as a

770
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: teenager with low self esteem, I decided not to speak.

771
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: If you're all asking, why don't you talk now as

772
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: an adult, simply because I forgot about it. It's been

773
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: more than a decade and I try to heal from that.

774
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: I don't tell myself every day about the bad things

775
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: that happened to me. I simply moved on and live

776
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: my life. The only reason this became relevant is because

777
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: I want to provide context on why I despise John

778
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: and what caused my family to drift apart. I would

779
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: give my dad's family a bit of credit actually in

780
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: terms of this. Even though dad and step family painted

781
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: me as the one and the wrong, they still reached

782
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: out to me and supported me here and there. They

783
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: should have asked my side, but hey, my family works

784
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: like that and there's nothing I could do. I don't

785
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 2: know how you're not reaching out to ask. Yeah, sixteen

786
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: year old about her side of things. You know, if

787
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: I in this hypothetical world that I had a niece

788
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: or you know, young cousin or something that I was

789
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: close to before had run away from home and then

790
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 2: was disowned, I'd be like, right, here are you okay?

791
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: Also happened?

792
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 5: You would think maybe you would know your brother enough

793
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 5: yeah to be like, oh that's something he would do exactly.

794
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like, oh yeah, he sucks. Yeah, he freaking sucks.

795
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: Comments comment one says. Another commenter said it best dad

796
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: only wants to be in your life because you have

797
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: money that he wants. No, they don't get that money,

798
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: have the wedding you want, And for those who don't

799
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: want to come because of your father's threats, that's a

800
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 2: them problem. You don't know any of them your money.

801
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 2: Please don't feel guilty. Live your best life. Ohp he says,

802
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 2: thank you for your comments. I don't give a crab

803
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 2: if anyone else is not coming. But my grandparents, alongside

804
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: my uncle's, were the biggest support I had when I

805
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: lost my mom. They are the only grandma parents I

806
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 2: have since my mom's parents passed away when my mom

807
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: was two and seven. I think the best solution is

808
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: to not have my grandparents at my wedding so they

809
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: can keep a relationship with my dad. I mean, if

810
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: that's what they're gonna choose, then you can't really do

811
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: anything about that. But I want them to if they

812
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: supported you the most. Yeah, go to them and have

813
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: a conversation and say, hey, this is why I'm not

814
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 2: giving them money. Yeah, They're like, pay sixteen thousand dollars

815
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: and your grandparents will come to your wedding. They'll let

816
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: yeah exactly reply. That may be best. Could you TikTok

817
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: on or Facebook live stream it for them? Oh the wedding,

818
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 2: have a cousin over there help them with the technology.

819
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: Ohp he says, that's an interesting suggestion. I guess I

820
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: could ask one of my cousins to stream it for them,

821
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: especially for the vows. I will ask if my grandparents

822
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: would want that, and there is an update, But I

823
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: don't know why would your grandparents want to have a

824
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: relationship with someone who disowned their child.

825
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 5: I feel like potentially if she does have that conversation,

826
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 5: they'll realize and be like, yeah, we'll come to your wedding.

827
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: You're so right about that? Yeah? Or also, why does

828
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 2: it have to be Opee's money? You know, like, why

829
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 2: aren't they reaching out to other people that they're still

830
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: close with or have a relationship with because they're going

831
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: to Opee you saying you have to give us the.

832
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 5: Money, and then still going to everybody else and being

833
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 5: like she has to give us.

834
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: The money, and everyone's like, yeah, you have to give

835
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 2: them the money. It's like, why aren't you you guys

836
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: giving them money? Update though, Hi everyone, First of all,

837
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: thank you for the support and kind words. Uh, even

838
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: with this issue, I'm still excited about my wedding. I

839
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: plan to update everyone after it, but I feel like

840
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: I owe you guys an update after what happened recently.

841
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: So my dad calls me again this afternoon. Against my

842
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: better judgment, I answered. Surprisingly he was nice and said

843
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: he just wanted to talk. I'm honestly, not that surprised

844
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 2: because he's trying to manipulate you into giving him money.

845
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 2: I got carried away and basically confronted him on everything

846
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 2: that has happened in the past, the lack of support,

847
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: the harmful acts I had to endure, and the fact

848
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: that he turned his back on me. He apologized and

849
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: clarified some things. He said that he never realized my

850
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: mom's possessions were missing because he was not that attentive.

851
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: The grand piano, however, Yeah, the big thing that's really

852
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: obviously missing, caught him by surprise too. Again, for people

853
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 2: who don't know, grand pianos can be around ten thousand dollars.

854
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: They are very expensive. He said he was planning to

855
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: have a stern talk with Karen, but I was already screaming,

856
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: so his priority was to separate us. He said, I

857
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: look like I was getting physical, so that's why he

858
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: got between us. I asked why he didn't defend me

859
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: when John was being physical with me. He said he

860
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: was chasing Karen and didn't see it happen or me

861
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: on the floor. I could have sworn he saw me

862
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 2: laying there, but I might be wrong, so I didn't argue,

863
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: come on, sounds like it was more than a WALLT yeah,

864
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: I like even, yeah, yeah, it does. Even if he

865
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: didn't see the moment that had happened, he would have

866
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: seen you on the floor afterwards, like I'm sure you

867
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: were like crying or something reacting to what just happened,

868
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: or go up to him and be like hey, yeah.

869
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: He also said he did try to find me when

870
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: I ran away, but none of his family members knew

871
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: where I was. You know, she's still a minor. You

872
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: could have sent the police out if you were, like

873
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: I had no idea where she was. I had police.

874
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 2: My child went missing. It's been forty eight hours. Please help,

875
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: Like you could have done that, you didn't try at all.

876
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 2: He also said he did try to find me when

877
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: I ran away, but none of his family members knew

878
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: where I was. He said he didn't reach out to

879
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: my mom's side of the family because they cut him

880
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: off when dad married Karen. He just assumed I was

881
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: safe under my uncle's care and left it at that.

882
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: I told him I could have passed away in a ditch,

883
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: and he agreed, saying he had no excuse for that.

884
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: I asked him about the disowning part and once again

885
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: he is sorry and said it was because of anger

886
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: and Karen's poisonous words. I don't no, no, no, get out.

887
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: I asked him where he got my number and he

888
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: said Nana Grandma gave it to him. He said she

889
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: told him to make up with me and see if

890
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: I would let him walk me tell the isle. No, no, no,

891
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: So he tried to contact me about that. I asked

892
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 2: why he didn't apologize then, or at the very least

893
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: try to ask how I'm doing. He said he was

894
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: too prideful to apologize, but he said he did have

895
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: a friendly chat with me. I was thinking about this

896
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: the entire day, and I guess he did try to

897
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: be friendly. He's gaslighting you, girl, but I chalked it

898
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: up to him trying to build a relationship with me

899
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: so I'll feel bad and give him money. Nailed it.

900
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: I asked why he asked me for money then, and

901
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: he said he was desperate. He said he's been asking

902
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: everyone to contribute, but it's not enough. He heard from

903
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: Karen that my aunt said my wedding was big. Karen

904
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: thinks it would probably cost one hundred k plus. I

905
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: don't know where she got that money that number and

906
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: told him to ask if I was willing to contribute,

907
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: since twelve thousand dollars is a small percentage of that.

908
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 2: I didn't tell him what the cost of my wedding

909
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: would be, but I said that twelve thousand dollars is

910
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: more than half my budget and much has been deposited

911
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: to the venders. He said he's sorry for assuming. I

912
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: don't trust this man at all at all. I also

913
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: confronted him about him emotionally blackmailing everyone so they wouldn't

914
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: come to my wedding. He said the way I responded

915
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: before sounded condescending and insulting. I was disgusted, so my

916
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: voice might prefer that. So he got really angry. He

917
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: threw Karen under the bus, and Karen feeds his anger

918
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: and pushes him to do what he did. He apologized

919
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: for that and said caron out afterward for even suggesting

920
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: isolating me from everyone. He's such a liar, Like the

921
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: fact that he is blaming everything on his wife right

922
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: and not taking responsibility for anything. He's just like, oh, yeah, sorry,

923
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 2: I did that because she told me to. I can't

924
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: say no to.

925
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 5: Her, but I can sell my ex wife's Yeah, I don't.

926
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: Really care about my ex wife anymore, so that's fine.

927
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: I asked him if his threat still stands, and he

928
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: said not anymore. Everyone can come if they want and

929
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: he won't interfere. However, he begged me to help with

930
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: John's treatment if I could. He said what happened in

931
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: the past could not be changed, and I have every

932
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: right to be angry about that. Yet he said John

933
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: has grown to be a better man and deserves a

934
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: second chance. He said I can give him any amount

935
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: of money and he would be grateful. I said I

936
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 2: would think about it, and he said, thank you. I

937
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: was laying in my bed, I unable to sleep and

938
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 2: thinking about the conversation. Right now, I plan to give

939
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: a thousand dollars from my own savings account, separate from

940
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: my wedding and honeymoon to him and call it a day.

941
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: More than generous, very generous, Like I I mean, but

942
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: I also understand, like hear from someone who's like, yeah,

943
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: this my son is passing away from yah, like I

944
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: understand why Opie did this, but like, no more than that,

945
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 2: No more than that, because the thing is that even

946
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: now with all of the like Opie's Dad's posturing and like,

947
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't know everything. Like all the conversations that they had,

948
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: it's very clear that he's doing this because he loves John.

949
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 2: He loves his stuff. Yeah, but he doesn't care about Opie.

950
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 4: No.

951
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: He sees ope as a way to like keep his

952
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: sons safe instead all for John. Yeah. Before doing that,

953
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 2: I wanted to consult both my fiance and uncle first though,

954
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: to see if they think that's the right thing to do. Well,

955
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: at least my grandparents can come without worries. Now, hopefully

956
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: this is the end to all the drama and there

957
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: is a second update. Do any thoughts before we jump

958
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: into that? Would you even want them at your wedding?

959
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 5: Now? No?

960
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: The grandparents were No, No I would not because they

961
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: were like have them walk them down the aisle? Yeah,

962
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: like what I would want, like the grandparents, Yeah, to

963
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: walk them down? Yeah. Update two. Hey everyone, this is

964
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: quicker than I expected, But I just want to say

965
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: my decision is final. No one from that family is

966
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 2: getting a penny. Oh okay, so OPI is doubled down.

967
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: Hans reached out to me through a throwaway account you

968
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: slash twelve thousand. Hans I confirm his identity. He knows Karen's,

969
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: John's dad's and my real name, and he knows what

970
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: I look like. He said he tried to post a

971
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: comment under this post twice, but I didn't get a notification,

972
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: so I don't know if Reddit is being weird. But

973
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: the import part is Hans told me everything. That man lied.

974
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: That man lied. I will not refer to him as

975
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: dad anymore because he doesn't deserve that title. Hans confirmed

976
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: that the man saw me on the floor. That's yeah,

977
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: first lie because he said, oh I didn't see I

978
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: didn't see that happen, and still chased after Karen. That

979
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 2: man lied about trying to find me after I ran away.

980
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: That one was obvious.

981
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 3: We all knew that one.

982
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 2: Hans said, no attempt had ever been made by him.

983
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: That man lied about John being a better man. He's

984
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: a man baby leeching off that man and Karen. That

985
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 2: man tried to manipulate me, and it almost worked. By

986
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 2: the way, you can work on listening to full episodes

987
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 2: of stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts,

988
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: or iHeartRadio and search up Okay, storytime, But there is

989
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: a little bit left to the story. Do you have

990
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: any final.

991
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 5: Thoughts right now, it almost sounds like John is the

992
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 5: mastermind of it.

993
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: Oh, like John's been working the strings the whole time.

994
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 5: Hans is like, maybe it's not your dad, but like

995
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 5: John's been lying.

996
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think all this whole family sucks except

997
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: for Hans. Hans kind of neutral. I think you need

998
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: to kind of cut these people off because they cut

999
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: you off. I think they need to stay gone. As

1000
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: for the last update, that man took back his threats

1001
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: and everyone could come. So I will use the one

1002
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: thousand dollars I was about to give them and make

1003
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: a matching outfit for anyone on my paternal side who

1004
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: RSVPs for the wedding. I am going to take a

1005
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: picture and make it into a Christmas card and send

1006
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: it to everyone on that side of the family, including

1007
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 2: them of course. Oh yeah, I will definitely tell them

1008
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: everything before the RSVP deadline, to let them know what

1009
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: a horrible human being that man and the step family

1010
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: from Heck have been to me. The harmful actions, the lies,

1011
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: and the manipulation.

1012
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 3: All of it.

1013
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: Lastly, thank you, all of you wonderful human beings. I

1014
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: am shaking out of anger and relief right now. I'm

1015
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: angry that once again I almost put myself second to

1016
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 2: people who never appreciated me. I am relieved that this

1017
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: finally ends and I don't have to waste my energy

1018
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 2: thinking about this anymore. Love you all, goodbye. It seems

1019
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: that Hans does have Sorry, John does have? Can you

1020
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: think I didn't? It didn't say anything about the cancer,

1021
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: so I guess he just like her dad, just lied

1022
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 2: about everything else. So you think he doesn't have CAM No,

1023
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: I think he doesn't. Think he does. Yeah, I think

1024
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: that John, I like OPI is saying that her dad

1025
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: was lying about like trying to be there for her

1026
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: to get her to pay, which was pretty obvious. But

1027
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: it does seem that John has which suck. Yeah, but

1028
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: doesn't really have anything to do with you, Opie, because

1029
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: they literally don't care about you at all, except for Hans.

1030
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: I guess Hans. Hans come to the wedding. Yeah, maybe

1031
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: you have a conversation with Hans and you're like, hey, Hans,

1032
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: that was a so you did me a solid and

1033
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: you can walk me down the aisle. No, I'm kind

1034
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: of here for this Christmas card.

1035
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 3: Yes, that's able.

1036
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: No, it's great. I love it. I love everything that

1037
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: was sorted out.

1038
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get back to these stories.

1039
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,759
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1040
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1041
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: My fiance's best friend confessed her love for him. I'm

1042
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: disinviting her. Yeah that makes sense. I twenty three female,

1043
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: and my fiance Elijah twenty eight male, are due to

1044
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: get married at the end of next month at our

1045
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: destination wedding. Ooh. Last night was my bachelorette party and

1046
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: I invited my closest family and friends to come, along

1047
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 2: with a few of my fiance's family and his friend

1048
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: Cammy twenty seven female. By the way, this comes from

1049
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,239
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Speaker 2: own stories, go to the r slash. Okay story time

1051
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: separate it to force some backstory. I and my fiance

1052
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: met when I was nineteen years old. Both of our

1053
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: fathers are business partners and have been friends since I

1054
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 2: was in high school. One night, his family invited mine

1055
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: over for a party being held out at their home,

1056
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: and that was the first time we met. I was

1057
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: attracted to him, but I knew he was older, so

1058
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: I didn't believe I had a chance. As the night progressed.

1059
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: He was hanging outside in his backyard lone smoking, and

1060
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: my sister dared me to go talk to him, so

1061
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: I did, and a year later we began our relationship.

1062
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: My fiance and Cammi have been friends since they were kids,

1063
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: and their families are very close. She's always been extremely

1064
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: nice towards me and wanted to be best friends. From

1065
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: the first time we met. I found it a bit odd,

1066
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 2: only because she barely knew me, but I didn't think

1067
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: much of it because she had been dating my fiance's

1068
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: best friend. Antonio twenty eight mal. We didn't become best

1069
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: friends because I already have a close friend group and

1070
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: I don't trust easily. But she's always been cool and

1071
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: never crossed any boundaries. Last summer, my fiance proposed to

1072
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: me on a trip to Belize. When the announcement was made,

1073
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: everyone sent their congratulatory praises to us, but Cammy. She

1074
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 2: sent a text the next day to my fiance only

1075
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: not our friend group chat, saying she was happy for him.

1076
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: She was a bit stand offish to me since then,

1077
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: but again I never paid attention really because I have

1078
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 2: my own friends in life. About six months ago, Antonio

1079
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 2: and Cammy broke up, but never really stated the reason why,

1080
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 2: just that they wanted to go back to being friends

1081
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 2: and be happy with other people. Fast forward to last night.

1082
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: My bachelorette was in a suite at a popular hotel

1083
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: here in Miami where I live. Planned by my older

1084
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: sister and Eli's sister Ava, twenty six female. The night

1085
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: was amazing and I truly had the time of my life.

1086
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 2: We were all getting wasted and I decided to go

1087
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 2: to the bathroom, and when I got closer, I heard

1088
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: voices and whimpering like someone was crying. It was then

1089
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: I heard Cammy tell Ava that this should be her

1090
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: and that she doesn't understand why he would want to

1091
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 2: be with someone like me when it was always supposed

1092
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: to be them two together, that she always loved him.

1093
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: I sobered the heck up instantly. I might have to

1094
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: do a part two. But guys, tell me, would I

1095
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: be the a hole for disinviting her from my wedding

1096
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: when it's a month away? Relevant comment says commoner one says,

1097
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: take a breath and think for a moment. Don't unilaterally

1098
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: decide not to invite her, or you'll drive a wedge

1099
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 2: between you and your fiance talk to his sister first,

1100
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: confirm what you heard, see how she plays it off.

1101
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: Talk to your fiance, tell him what you overheard and

1102
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 2: ask him to ask his sister to have confirmation. Then

1103
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 2: go from there as a whole. Not the ale. Common

1104
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: Er two says, not the ale, but you have to

1105
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 2: talk to your fiance. Tell him exactly what you heard.

1106
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 2: Make sure to emphasize that you didn't have any problem

1107
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: whatsoever with her or their friendship, but that now that

1108
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: you know that her feelings are not the same as

1109
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: a friend, then you need him to have boundaries with her,

1110
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 2: and you don't feel comfortable with her being at the

1111
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: wedding and all this time she didn't want to be

1112
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 2: a supportive friend but instead the bride. Commoner three says,

1113
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: this is certainly an awkward and difficult situation. I think

1114
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: you should speak to your fiance about it and go

1115
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: from there. If she can't be an actual friend and

1116
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 2: supportive of you both, then she should remove herself from

1117
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: the situation. If she's not over him or having issues

1118
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: of jealousy, definitely not someone you want being in distraction

1119
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 2: at your wedding. Commonar four says you need to talk

1120
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: to your fiance. Their friendship needs to end. Sits out

1121
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: there like that. There is no coming back from this.

1122
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 2: The two of you need to be on the same

1123
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: page or hold off the wedding. Do not marry him

1124
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: if he won't end his friendship with someone who confessed

1125
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: to his sister that she's in love with him. Also again,

1126
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: crazy that she confessed to his sister, right, do you

1127
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: think the sister knew? Maybe like besties. I think if

1128
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 2: someone confessed that they were in love with my brother, yeah,

1129
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: I'd like go to my brother immediately. Immediately, I'd be like, hey, dude,

1130
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 2: there have been multiple people that like Sam knows who

1131
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 2: have told me things about him or like said things

1132
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: about him or something, And I'm like, why are you

1133
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 2: like talking to me about my brother. We gonna tell

1134
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 2: him she told her because she wants her to tell

1135
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 2: him and for him to choose her. That's not okay.

1136
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 2: He needs to be the one to uninvite her, not

1137
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: the ale And there is an update two days later. Wow,

1138
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: thank you to everyone who has given me advice and

1139
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 2: reached out to me in my messages. You guys are amazing.

1140
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: Before I get into this update, at the Reddit hero

1141
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 2: count your freaking days. I was minding my business scrolling

1142
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: down TikTok and saw my story lool. For some clarification,

1143
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: I referred to Cammy as my fiance's best friend because

1144
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 2: I didn't know what else to call her. Maybe childhood friend.

1145
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they have never went out of

1146
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 2: their way to call each other that. But that's how

1147
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: I see them. Now for the update. After I heard

1148
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: what was said, the old me started to revert back,

1149
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 2: and I almost caused a scene. But I knew with

1150
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 2: my siblings, cousins and friends all being there, it would

1151
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: get out of control, and I still wanted to enjoy

1152
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 2: my night, but I did continue to listen. Some of

1153
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: you were wondering what Ava to say about all this.

1154
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 2: After Ava was able to calm Cammy down, she explained

1155
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: to her that this was not the time and place

1156
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: and that Elijah would never forgive her if she ruined

1157
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: my bachelorette party. She also told her that she thinks

1158
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 2: that she should leave and get herself together. I was

1159
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: about to walk in now at the same time they

1160
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 2: were walking out. I acted as if I didn't hear

1161
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: anything and asked if everything was okay. Cammy just wiped

1162
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: her face, looked down, stating that she wasn't feeling well

1163
00:56:58,600 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 2: and that she might have to cut the night show.

1164
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 2: I honestly didn't fight her on it, and even walked

1165
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: her butt to the door because the f After she left,

1166
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 2: I pulled Ava to the side, telling her that I

1167
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: heard everything. She apologized that I heard it and said

1168
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: that she would reach out to Eli to handle it.

1169
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: Some of you also wanted to know why Cammy said

1170
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: it should have been heart Did her and My accept

1171
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 2: something going on before? I knew they hadn't, but needed

1172
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: to be sure, so I asked if they had ever

1173
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: been together or dated. In response, Ava said not that

1174
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: she was aware of, only that their moms would always

1175
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: joke around when they were teens, saying they could finally

1176
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: be related once Eli and Cammy got married. She said

1177
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: that never happened because Eli was never into her. Cammy

1178
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: is a gorgeous girl, but my fiance does have a

1179
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: certain type and it's not her. Respectfully, I wanted to

1180
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: ask more questions, but I thought I'd wait until I

1181
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: spoke with my fiance for further answers. After that, I

1182
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: continued the party and even spoke with Eli quickly before

1183
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: bet I posted on Reddit the next day after I

1184
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: got home, before I did anything drastic. My fiance came

1185
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: home later that evening, and once he settled in and relaxed,

1186
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: I told him everything that happened. To say that he

1187
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 2: was irate is taking it lightly. He was absolutely furious.

1188
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: I asked if there was anything between them that I

1189
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: was never told about. I asked if they had ever

1190
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: been intimate and if she had ever confused her love

1191
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: for him before. He made it clear that there had

1192
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: never been anything but a friend's relationship in his eyes.

1193
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: He said that they had never had spicy sleep before,

1194
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: but did kiss once back in high school playing Spin

1195
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: the Bottle games, but he was in a group and

1196
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: everyone kissed multiple people, including Antonio. He said that she

1197
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: has never confessed her love for him and is confused

1198
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: because he's the only one that played a role in

1199
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: Antonio and her dating. You wanted to call her right

1200
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: then and there, but I told him to calm down first,

1201
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: because being upset would only make things worse. I want

1202
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: to say that my fiance isn't mad that I heard it,

1203
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: or is trying to hide anything. He's upset because he

1204
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: feels hurt and betrayed that she would do this to

1205
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: him and at my party when we were all there

1206
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: to support me. My fiance can get really protective of

1207
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: me at times. He doesn't like to hear anything negative.

1208
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 2: I did express to him that I feel uncomfortable with

1209
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 2: her going to her wedding now. I want people at

1210
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: her wedding who are genuinely happy and supportive of us. Tonight,

1211
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: he texted her saying that he needs to speak with her.

1212
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: She replied saying she'll let him know when she's home,

1213
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: so we'll see how tonight's conversation goes. You also invited

1214
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: Antonio over for dinner. Ooh, that's gonna be an awkward conversation, like,

1215
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: oh yeah, your ex girlfriend left you for me, and

1216
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: we'll speak to him about what's going on because things

1217
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: feel off. A lot of you were also questioning hers

1218
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: and Antonio's relationship and if she used him to make

1219
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: Eli jealous. So we will all be present when the

1220
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: conversation does happen to see what she has to say

1221
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: her herself. Since Thanksgiving is in a few days, I

1222
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: will update you guys on how the conversation goes and

1223
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: if anything new comes to light, just give me some

1224
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: time to get through this holiday. Also, I have a

1225
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: wedding dress fitting tomorrow and I'm so excited. I might

1226
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: make a collage and show you guys reference photos. XO xo.

1227
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: And there are some comments. Scolner one says, whatever happens,

1228
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: don't let it happen, and just be careful that this

1229
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: friend situation hurts the most beautiful moment of your life.

1230
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: You and your fiance came from a long journey to

1231
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: get to this point, so enjoy and don't let her

1232
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: steal this from you. Opie says exactly, this is a

1233
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: happy moment for me and him. I will definitely enjoy.

1234
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: And there is an update. So now we're, you know

1235
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: a little bit like we got fifteen days left before

1236
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: this wedding. Oh my god. Yeah, not all the time. Yeah,

1237
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: hopefully Opie've acted quickly.

1238
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 5: I wonder if she was like showing up to this

1239
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 5: dinner with OPI's fiance being like, oh my god, he's

1240
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 5: like totally gonna confess his love for me tonight.

1241
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: Oh wait the friend Yeah, because I don't think he

1242
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 2: was like we need to like talk tonight. He was

1243
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 2: just like, oh hey, you need to talk. That's a

1244
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: good point. She started thinking, which is crazy because she

1245
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 2: literally told his sister, right, but she wanted op over hers. Yeah.

1246
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: But also I'm thinking maybe she wanted the sister to

1247
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: tell him.

1248
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 5: Wouldn't she say, like, you have to tell your brother

1249
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 5: for me so that he can like or was she

1250
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 5: just like.

1251
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought that was I thought she was saying,

1252
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 2: I'll tell him. I thought the sister was saying to

1253
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 2: ope that she was like, oh, yeah, I'll tell him. Yeah,

1254
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 2: but yeah, maybe she wants Eva to tell Yeah, so

1255
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 2: she could think that just the sister told yeah, and

1256
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: she's like, oh, now he's coming to tell me that

1257
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: he's in love with me actually getting married in fifteen days.

1258
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: Ooh yeah. She's like, I'm gonna take their wedding. Yeah.

1259
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 2: It's kind of a Mumma mea situation, except instead of

1260
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: an entirely different couple, it's just replacement person. Update too

1261
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: thirteen days later, I'm pasting the edit from my previous update.

1262
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: My younger brother sixteen, Mail was in a car accident

1263
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving night where he was injured. Thankfully, he's okay with

1264
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 2: just a sprain wrist and a concussion. The other driver

1265
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: passed away as he was speeding This has been a

1266
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: lot to digest, but things seem to be calming down now.

1267
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 2: I will have an update for you guys by the morning.

1268
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: Bear with me. There's a lot to update you guys on,

1269
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: so it will be a brand new past. It's actually

1270
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 2: Monday evening now, but let's get into this long update.

1271
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 2: So that night, we ended up inviting Antonio over and

1272
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: basically told him everything that happened up to that point.

1273
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 2: He actually wasn't shocked at all by the news and

1274
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: stated that one of the main reasons why they broke

1275
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 2: up was because he felt like Cammy pulled away after

1276
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: hearing about the engagement. He never said anything because he

1277
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 2: didn't want to cause any issues between my fiance and meet.

1278
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 2: My husband said she did become distant as well, but

1279
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 2: of course we have our own lives we've been planning for,

1280
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: so it honestly wasn't high on his priority list that

1281
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 2: would have made him address it then. Well, of course

1282
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 2: now we know why, so we wanted to address it

1283
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: to her now. About thirty minutes later, Cammy texted Eli

1284
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 2: that she was home and would call once she was

1285
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: settled in. When she did call, before she could even

1286
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 2: say hello, my fiance started. He asked her why she

1287
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 2: thought it was okay to go to my bachelorette party

1288
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 2: and say that she loves him and that he should

1289
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: be with her instead of me. He asked her why

1290
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 2: she would ever think it's okay to also bring it

1291
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: up to his sister and get her. She was taken

1292
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 2: aback and asked what he was talking about, which pissed

1293
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: him off. He told her that I heard what she

1294
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 2: told Ava in the bathroom and that she was out

1295
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 2: of line to even suggest that they had ever been

1296
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: anything more than a family friendship. She said she couldn't

1297
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 2: help how she feels and that being at a bachelorette

1298
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 2: party made it real for her and she just needed

1299
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: to get it off her chest and thought she could

1300
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: trust Ava. He asked her why, if all this time

1301
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 2: she had feelings for him, would she be with Antonio

1302
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 2: when he set them up. Cammy said she thought that

1303
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: things wouldn't get serious between them and thought eventually that

1304
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: he would come around. Said that she would give hints

1305
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: but he would never reciprocate, which should have been a

1306
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 2: hint to her. He told her that although they've had

1307
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 2: a long friendship, this was something that he couldn't look

1308
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: past and that she is no longer invited to the wedding.

1309
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: He told her that he would assist her in any

1310
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: returns or refunds that she would need for any money

1311
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: spend so far. Cammy was upset and said that she

1312
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: didn't mean for me to hear what she said, and

1313
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: that she was never going to make any problems for us.

1314
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 2: I mean she already did. She already did say it

1315
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: out loud to his sister, made a problem. He said

1316
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: it didn't matter that we were only inviting people to

1317
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: the wedding that love and support our relationship, and that

1318
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: her actions show that she didn't. And he then started

1319
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: talking crap about me, saying that I think that I'm

1320
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 2: all that and that I believe I'm better than her.

1321
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: Eli cut her off and said, I don't think that

1322
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: I'm all that, but if she believes that I'm better

1323
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: than her, then she should evaluate her own insecurities and

1324
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: work on that. He then hung up. Antonio and I

1325
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 2: were so shocked all we could do was laugh. She

1326
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 2: clearly has always felt this way about me, but was

1327
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: faking it to my face. I don't even know why

1328
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 2: she would think those things about me as She's older

1329
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 2: than me and more successful. I'm still beginning my career

1330
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 2: and not even where I want to be to even

1331
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: believe I'm better than anyone. I'm just living my life

1332
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: and going with the flow. After the phone call, we

1333
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,959
Speaker 2: all just discussed what happened eight and then Antonio left.

1334
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 2: He really didn't have any feelings towards the issue because

1335
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 2: he's now seeing someone else and has moved on from

1336
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 2: the situation, stating that she needs help. The next day

1337
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 2: was the day before Thanksgiving, and since my family he

1338
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 2: was hosting Thanksgiving dinner, Eli's parents had a small gathering

1339
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 2: at their home for their immediate family and friends. Me

1340
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 2: and my fiance were invited, including his sister, her husband, Cammy,

1341
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 2: and his family. I really didn't know what to expect

1342
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 2: when getting ready to go there, because I knew it

1343
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 2: would be awkward seeing Cammy in person after the argument

1344
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: the night before. My fiance didn't say anything, but I

1345
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: could tell he was still upset about everything. When we

1346
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: got to the party, everyone was already pretty much there

1347
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 2: except a few people. Before we even sat down or

1348
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 2: spoke to everyone, Eli told his family that he had

1349
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 2: something to say. Cammy was setting off to the side,

1350
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: with her parents and brother not wanting to engage. He

1351
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 2: began saying that since it's close to the wedding, he

1352
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: might as well announce to everyone that if they do

1353
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: not love and support us getting married, they would be

1354
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: permanently disinvited from the wedding. His mom asked where this

1355
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 2: was coming from, and everyone was nervously looking around. That's

1356
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 2: so funny, he told her. Apparently there are people in

1357
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 2: this house that I'm an issue with him being engaged,

1358
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: and that those people won't be allowed to attend. I'm

1359
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 2: guessing Cammy had already told old her parents would happen,

1360
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 2: because then her mom started to speak. She said that

1361
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 2: she thought it was tasteless to disinvite her daughter to

1362
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: the wedding after how long they had been close. Eli responded,

1363
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: saying that he thought it was tasteless for her daughter

1364
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: to go to his fiance's bachelorette party, saying that it

1365
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 2: should have been hers. Mic drop. At this point, everyone

1366
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: was shocked, including me, because I had no idea he

1367
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: was going to address it to his family. They started

1368
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 2: to argue back and forth, with Avea's dad getting involved.

1369
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: Eli was having none of it and said that none

1370
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: of them would be invited, except for Cammy's brother, who

1371
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: wasn't agreeing with what his sister had done. Cammy's family

1372
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 2: ended up leaving shortly after the confrontation. Eli's mom was

1373
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 2: shocked and hurt about everything that happened, but supported us.

1374
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 2: She said she would speak with her friend and that

1375
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 2: she felt it was all inappropriate. I apologized to her

1376
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: and Eli's dad, saying that I hated that this happened

1377
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: and that it is causing a rift. She and Ava

1378
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 2: told me I have nothing to be sorry about and

1379
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 2: that they all were on our side. Cammy ended up

1380
01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 2: sending both Eli and Ava very long, nasty messages about

1381
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 2: how they weren't loyal to her and that I was

1382
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: purposely causing a divide between the two because I wanted

1383
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: to punt her out of the family and sabotage that relationship.

1384
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 2: This woman is delusional, so my fiance just blocked her.

1385
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 2: She then texts to be saying that me and Eli's

1386
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 2: relationship wouldn't last very long if I became jealous of

1387
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 2: every woman important in his life. I blocked her as well.

1388
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 2: I may be a lot of things, but jealous isn't

1389
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: one of them. I'm happy and very secure my relationship. Honestly,

1390
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 2: seeing how far he's willing to go to make sure

1391
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: that my day is perfect. His words, not mine, just

1392
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: solidify to me more than ever that I'm marrying the

1393
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 2: right person. Thanksgiving was amazing and we had a good

1394
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 2: time with the family. Sadly, that night is when my

1395
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 2: brother got into his accident, so we had to deal

1396
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: with that. Everything is now starting to calm down and

1397
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: now me and my fiance can relax until next week.

1398
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 2: Then we leave for Palermo, Italy, where the wedding will be.

1399
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 2: I forgot they were having a destination there. That's what

1400
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: he paid her back for too.

1401
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1402
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 2: I may update you guys in the future, but for

1403
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 2: now this will be the final update. I'm willing to

1404
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: answer any other questions you guys may have for me

1405
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 2: in the comments, and there are some relevant comments. This

1406
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 2: seems like an overreaction, given that Cammy was already distancing

1407
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: herself and never said anything. I think you and your

1408
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: fiance are full of yourselves, dang, like the speech was unnecessary.

1409
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:17,520
Speaker 2: Telling others was unnecessary. Yes, you and your fiance escalated

1410
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 2: things and you talked like you should have beat her

1411
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 2: on or something. When you eavesdropped on a private conversation.

1412
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 2: She admitted she was jealous and struggling. She didn't do

1413
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 2: anything to you anyways. You two drama queens. You and

1414
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 2: your fiance deserve each other weird as. There's more to

1415
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 2: the story that I left out. I didn't go into

1416
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 2: detail on what she put in the long messages she

1417
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: sent to my fiance and his sister. But this is

1418
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 2: not an overreaction. This girl has been smiling in my face,

1419
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 2: acting like my friend, wanting to be best friends, knowing

1420
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: the whole time she had feelings for my fiance. Yes,

1421
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 2: maybe my fiance could have handled it a little better.

1422
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 2: I've already spoken to him about it, but he won't

1423
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 2: apologize for what he said. He meant every last word.

1424
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 2: I won one hundred percent back my fiance and how

1425
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: he chose to handle her and her parents. I don't

1426
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: want anyone around me who's secretly jealous of me. Those

1427
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 2: people are dangerous and cannot be trusted. I may be young,

1428
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 2: but I have sisters and close friends around me who

1429
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 2: I trust and have been in my life for over

1430
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: ten years. I don't need, nor do I want, fake

1431
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 2: love and support celebrating with me on my wedding night.

1432
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: I didn't center myself at all. I didn't know how

1433
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 2: my fiance was going to take the news. Yet I

1434
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 2: don't think op he knew that the fiance was going

1435
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: to call them out yeah Thanksgiving. I think she was

1436
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 2: pretty surprised as well. He's normally the calm and thoughtful one.

1437
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 2: I think he really just felt blindsided and thought I

1438
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 2: would leave him, so he just wanted to set things

1439
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: straight before any other problems. The wedding is slowly approaching.

1440
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 2: We're both just super anxious and just trying to take

1441
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: in as many happy moments that we can. Bottom of form.

1442
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: Commoner two says, Yes, she always gave me pick me vibes.

1443
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 2: She always hung out with just guys. Her only real

1444
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: girlfriend was Atha. It always felt like she was trying

1445
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 2: too hard when she came around all the girls. Comminer

1446
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 2: three says, judging my Cammi's mother's first reaction being to

1447
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 2: blame your fiance for the disinvitation, it's not hard to

1448
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 2: find the source of Cammy's behavior. Those two probably have

1449
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 2: the same thought process too. I would advise security for

1450
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 2: your wedding just to avoid some further avoidable drama. Never

1451
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 2: think too high of some people. Also glad that your

1452
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 2: brother is okay. Like the other had said, keep an

1453
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: eye on him because no one knows when the trauma

1454
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: will surface. And there is a final update addressing the comments,

1455
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm here to clear some things up. My fiance did

1456
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,520
Speaker 2: not address the issue at Thanksuing dinner. The night before Thanksgiving,

1457
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: his parents had a small get together at their home

1458
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 2: that included me, my fiance, Ava, Ava's husband's Cammi, Cammy's brother,

1459
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 2: and parents. There was also another couple that was on

1460
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 2: the way who are friends of my in laws. When

1461
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 2: we arrived, the couple hadn't arrived yet, so the confrontation

1462
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 2: did not have been in front of them, only our

1463
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 2: two families. I already spoke with my husband regarding his

1464
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 2: actions that night and told him I felt like things

1465
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: could have been handled a lot more privately. Once he

1466
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: was able to calm down about the whole situation, he

1467
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 2: also agreed. I just wanted to say that this is

1468
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 2: not something that my fiance did all the time. He's sweet, kind,

1469
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 2: caring and loving, so seeing people call him aggressive for

1470
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 2: standing up for me is battling. This morning, I expressed

1471
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: to my fiance that I think that he should apologize.

1472
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 2: He called Cammy this morning, telling her that although he

1473
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 2: does not regret anything he said, he could have handled

1474
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: the situation maturely. The conversation went absolutely nowhere because all

1475
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 2: she was trying to do was get him to change

1476
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: his mind, telling him that it's not too late to

1477
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 2: cancel the wedding. She took that as him being like,

1478
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: I'm in love with you. Yeah, honestly, I'm over it, guys.

1479
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 2: It's starting to drain me and my happiness. Ava has

1480
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: also apologized to Cammy and also expressed to her that

1481
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 2: she had no idea she was going to be put

1482
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 2: on blast at dinner. I don't know and do not

1483
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 2: care what happens with their friendship from there. I won't

1484
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: be going out of my way to be involved disrespectfully.

1485
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 2: For those of you believe that I'm the mean girl

1486
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 2: and that I like drama, kindly kiss my butt. Someone

1487
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 2: in the comments told me I won and that I

1488
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: got the man. WTF is this? Are you truly okay?

1489
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 2: My fiance isn't the prize. I will never fight over

1490
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 2: man and go out of my way to be mean

1491
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,799
Speaker 2: to another woman over a man I actually liked Cammi

1492
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Speaker 2: which is why she was even invited to my Bachelor

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01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: red party. No we weren't super close. No she wasn't

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01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 2: a bridesmaid, but she was cool enough to celebrate with me.

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01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: She always wanted to be the center when it came

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01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 2: to the boys or getting attention, not me. Before this,

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01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: there hasn't really been any drama. Drama actually causes me

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01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 2: high anxiety and it sprinkles to depression. But you know what,

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Speaker 2: I do enjoy you guys listening to full episodes with

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Speaker 2: stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts,

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01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: or iHeartRadio and search up Okay Storytime. In case some

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01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 2: of you didn't realize, everyone's names is changed for the

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01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 2: sake of concealing our identities. Thank you, guys for all

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01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: the love and supportive messages to my little brother. He's

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01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: doing okay and he's being watched carefully as we are

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01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: aware that some injuries can show up after the accident.

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01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 2: For my mental health, I think this will be my

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01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 2: last update. I thought I would update you guys for

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01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 2: the wedding, but these mean comments take away that fun.

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01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 2: I truly appreciate everyone who has left kind messages for me.

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01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 2: You guys have truly put a smile on my face,

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Speaker 2: and that is the end of that story.