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Speaker 1: Yeoman's It's say Tuesday edition of the Dallas Cowboys dot

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. Glad you're with us. Kyle Yeoman's with you

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Speaker 1: we've got Brian brought us, David Hellman, and of course

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Speaker 1: on this Tuesday. I want to give a quick shout

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Speaker 1: out to Chris Beams Baylor Bears. How about that. Chris

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Speaker 1: is in the back, of course, punch in the buttons

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Speaker 1: as always, and the Bailor Bears are national champions. And

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Speaker 1: of course Chris Beam a huge Baylor fan. There you go,

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Speaker 1: there he is. And also he won our Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: media bracket too because he picked the Baylor Bears. So

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Speaker 1: double cut. Congratulations for Chris Beam. But it's almost draft time.

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Speaker 1: We're getting close as the twenty nine is on the way,

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Speaker 1: and Brian, I mean this is right around the time

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Speaker 1: you're learning which one your friends are just liars? Is

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Speaker 1: really what you're learning right now. And yeah, and this

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Speaker 1: I think it's you know, it's an exciting time too,

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Speaker 1: when you could set your board and you'll have an idea.

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll see what the medical information all brings.

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Speaker 1: But we're going to start doing this for real here

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Speaker 1: and about, you know, another three weeks or so, and

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Speaker 1: that will be an exciting time for everybody. Dave, have

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Speaker 1: you're saying, Jeff, and and you're talking about you're talking

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Speaker 1: But me personally, I want to believe they're going to

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Speaker 1: do the right thing again. But why do I feel

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Speaker 1: like that they're gonna take you know they're gonna take Parsons.

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Speaker 1: I'll why in that scenario. I believe they're gonna take Parsons.

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Speaker 1: In that scenario, I believe they are. I will tell

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Speaker 1: you why. And they deserve all the credit in the

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Speaker 1: world for pulling the trigger on Lamb. But the thing

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Speaker 1: that gets lost is that wide receiver was a need.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have a slot receiver. They were faced with

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Speaker 1: the prospect of starting Cedric Wilson in the slot if

435
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Speaker 1: they didn't draft a receiver last year, and that made

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Speaker 1: it way easier. I would have to see them draft

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Speaker 1: a receiver to this team to believe it. I just don't.

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Speaker 1: I do not think they think that way. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I'm sitting here thinking, Okay, you're probably talking about

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Speaker 1: Parsons or yeah, Azizo JULARI. I could get on board

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Speaker 1: with that, and honestly, y'all can hate me all you want. Like,

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Speaker 1: if they drafted Barmore in that scenario, I would say, whatever,

443
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Speaker 1: you got a good player. You got a good player

444
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Speaker 1: who fits an immediate need. I can't. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: Let me me personally, I think Parsons is a better

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Speaker 1: player than Barmore. That's just me. Yeah, I would, I would.

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Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't see Parsons. I don't have Parsons.

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Speaker 1: And I say, I don't have Barmore in the first round.

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Speaker 1: I don't. Okay, yeah, oh see, I like him. I

450
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Speaker 1: like him a lot. Wait, I mean I don't love that.

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Speaker 1: It's good, I know. I hope you're right. I hope

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Speaker 1: you're right. You know, I'll be happy to tip my

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Speaker 1: hat to anybody. He's not in the line of what

454
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: we've seen from Alabama defensive tackles in the past, just

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Speaker 1: not and I and and and I was trying. I

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Speaker 1: mean I sat there and tried and tried and tried,

457
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Speaker 1: and watching games and watching somebody watching Georgia line and

458
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Speaker 1: watching all these guys, and I'm going, Okay, he's gonna

459
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Speaker 1: make a play here sometime, you know. But he's not

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Speaker 1: in the mode of the guys we've seen in the

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Speaker 1: past from Alabama. I would rather go to offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: three and four before going to Barmore. I would rather

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Speaker 1: take Christian Derrisau or Tevin Jass. Okay, there you go,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Wowee. You talk to people, you talk

465
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Speaker 1: to people in that building, they will tell you that

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Speaker 1: Derrishaw from Virginia Tech is a real left tackle where

467
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Speaker 1: where some of the guys, some of the thoughts have been,

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469
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Speaker 1: that might be they're telling that's Zack Martin, but if

470
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Speaker 1: you kick him outside, you might not have the same player.

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Speaker 1: So there's some questions. And I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: that could make that could be maddening. But the one

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475
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Speaker 1: from Virginia Tech. That's a guy that that might be

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Speaker 1: that if if you got completely wiped out and you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't hate that. I don't think I would necessarily hate

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Speaker 1: process of pick the best player that's on your board,

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Speaker 1: and that somehow aligns with a need to kind of

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490
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Speaker 1: do have to say, Jeff Kavanaugh, I'm very impressed with

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Speaker 1: seconds ago. But that's exactly what the case was. Magic

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Speaker 1: of television and he made it work that time. So Jeff,

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00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: just for that, we're gonna ask you this fresh question. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: first question, idea, how long the break was either just

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Speaker 1: It was impeccable all right. Time now for some twitter

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Speaker 1: and I'm asking James question because he's been very adamant

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Speaker 1: about us answering more questions. He has sent multiple tweets

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Speaker 1: at least saying please answer more questions, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: answer his Kyle, Okay, sorry, Should the Cowboys go for

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Speaker 1: a position other than cornerback at end? And what would

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Speaker 1: it cost to move back up into the first round

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Speaker 1: to potentially target a quarterback? He said, who you think

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Speaker 1: they would get but I think if you're gonna try

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Speaker 1: and go back up, it might be to get a

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Speaker 1: guy at cornerback, but you could throw any position in there. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: what do you think on that one? I think if

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Speaker 1: you're going non cornerback, it would be for one of

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Speaker 1: two reasons, either Certan and Horn are gone or they're

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Speaker 1: both there. But you also had a slider like Pina

551
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Speaker 1: Soil or Kyle Pitts. So in his scenario, I'll say

552
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: we've taken either Pina Soil or Kyle Pitts, and then

553
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 1: we looked at each other and like, guys, what are

554
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Speaker 1: we doing at corner? And then you package maybe Brian

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Speaker 1: can run numbers on this twenty seventy five, let's go

556
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Speaker 1: to twin will be in the twenties somewhere. Wow. And

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Speaker 1: then and then in my dream world, that gets me

558
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Speaker 1: Greg Newsome. But with Caleb Farley's backfasectomies, I think Newsom

559
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: probably becomes the third corner off the board, and I

560
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: don't know if he makes the twenties. So it might

561
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: be a waiting game where you're just seeing what happens

562
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Speaker 1: at corner and figuring out when it's time to move,

563
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Speaker 1: depending on who you like, like a Sante, Samuel Junior, Kelvin,

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Speaker 1: Joseph Melafon Wu. When does Farley come into play? Elijah

565
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: Molden blah blah blah blah blah. There's a million of them.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you can move back up, and I think

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Speaker 1: that becomes more likely if you take an offensive player

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Speaker 1: at ten. Yeah, I agree. I think you know, again,

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Speaker 1: you get to figure out somebody, will somebody let you

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Speaker 1: back in for forty four and seventy five. That's what

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Speaker 1: you got, you know, that's that's your offer. Maybe we've

572
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: talked about the situation with Gallup as well. You could

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Speaker 1: use him as a players, a throw in to kind

574
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Speaker 1: of thing to maybe get somebody interested in it. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, to me, if you're gonna go back in,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna see what the medical is on Farley.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if taken him, say at twenty four

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Speaker 1: or twenty five, that might be just okay for me

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Speaker 1: to do. I mean, but then again, if I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to take him at ten, why would they take

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Speaker 1: him fifteen picks later? Yeah, but I'm still going to

582
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Speaker 1: investigate that. I'm gonna look at the like Jeff's talking

583
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Speaker 1: about the Newsoms, the Melofon Woos, those types of guys.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of quarters. Even if you sat there

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Speaker 1: to forty four. I think you could find you a

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Speaker 1: cornerback in this draft, though, But if you want to

587
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Speaker 1: be aggressive, go ahead and try and make it work, Dave,

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Speaker 1: I think that's no, that's that's incredibly thorough. I honestly,

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Speaker 1: I don't have anything to add to that other than

590
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Speaker 1: I mean, y'all know me. I don't love moving around,

591
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Speaker 1: and I know we spent the first twenty minutes doing

592
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Speaker 1: doomsday stuff. But when you're picking, you're picking tenth, I

593
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Speaker 1: just sort of believe that it's going to work out,

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Speaker 1: especially with the depth the depth of this quarterback class,

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Speaker 1: you know, like during the break, ESPN is reporting that

596
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Speaker 1: Atlanta is trying to shop the number four pick, Like,

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Speaker 1: I still think you're either going to have a quarterback

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Speaker 1: sitting there. You know, when you pick tenth, you're either

599
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Speaker 1: going to have a quarterback sitting there that you can

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Speaker 1: use to trade, or so many quarterbacks are gonna have

601
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Speaker 1: gotten drafted that a player you love is going to

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Speaker 1: be sitting there. I don't know if I'm just being

603
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: overly optimistic, but I really think that's got a high

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00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: likelihood have happened. No, Like Dave, I think, honestly, out

605
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Speaker 1: of the name's Pinnay Soul, and I'm gonna make sure here,

606
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: but I think we would all be comfortable if the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys pick was Pinnay Soul or Rashaun Slater or file

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Speaker 1: Pits or Patrick's or Tan yep or yes, And I

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Speaker 1: think at least one and up to three of those

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Speaker 1: are gonna be available because I think you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chasco, You're gonna see at least four quarterbacks. Go Like,

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Speaker 1: I think that this thing is going to fall where

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Speaker 1: you're going to be happy with what you've got at ten,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna happen again at forty four.

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Speaker 1: I understand if you wanted to target a certain player

616
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Speaker 1: in the twenties and you wanted to move up, but

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Speaker 1: I really think that and maybe this happens every year,

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Speaker 1: but I love what the draft looks like from twenty

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Speaker 1: five to seventy five. Yeah, I don't want to give

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Speaker 1: up multiple picks in that range. I'm trying to add

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Speaker 1: more of those picks if there's any way possible. Yep.

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Speaker 1: I was putting together a top fifty one for the

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Speaker 1: website for one oh five three, and I had a

624
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Speaker 1: harder time putting together the players from twenty one on

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Speaker 1: down than I did putting the players from the top

626
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Speaker 1: of the round. So yeah, that just told you a

627
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Speaker 1: little bit more thought about. Wow, I like this guy

628
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: a little bit better than this guy. This guy, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with Jeff on that sit there at forty

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Speaker 1: four if you want to, and you'll probably grab a

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Speaker 1: pretty good player. And everybody may not know all these names,

632
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Speaker 1: but at forty four, I mean, I think you're gonna

633
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Speaker 1: have guys in consideration where I've got seven second round corners,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Robinson, Eric Stokes, Elijah Molden. Are those guys at

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Speaker 1: forty four? Jabril Cox and Baron Browning at linebacker, Elim

636
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: McNeil at defensive tackle, Carlos Basham the edge, Joseph Osi,

637
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: Peyton Turner, Alex Leatherwood at left tackle. If you don't

638
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: know these names, just look them all up. But like

639
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: these are guys that those are NFL starters. Man, there's

640
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: gonna be an offensive lineman, there's gonna be a corner,

641
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: there's gonna be Richie Grant. There's gonna be a safety,

642
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be an edge player. There's gonna be

643
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: dudes there that you're gonna love. Every single year that

644
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: I've done this, we get off the air on Thursday

645
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: night and there's like six guys sitting there that we've

646
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: spent the whole spring talking about as possible first round picks,

647
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: and but the Cowboys aren't usually picking this high. Yeah, sure,

648
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: it's exciting to think that, you know, some of those

649
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: guys will be there for him. Well, it happened last

650
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: year with Trayvon Diggs. I mean, that was a guy

651
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: we thought would go in the back half of the

652
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: first round, and then not only did he fall, he

653
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: fell to the Cowboys at fifty one, and it was

654
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: something that was just kind of unforeseen and something that

655
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: happened that was very exciting. But kind of along these

656
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: same lines, Sebastian asked our next question. He said, what

657
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: players outside of quarterback have the greatest boom or bus

658
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: potential in this draft? And I think a lot of

659
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: those names that could line up with this question are

660
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: right in that twenty five to seventy five range that

661
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: Brian you were just talking about. Yeah, you know what.

662
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: I am not the you know, And I heard Jeff

663
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: mentioned he was talking about the linebackers and stuff like that.

664
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: I do worry about a bust with Cox from LSU,

665
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: and I know that's my school and all that, but

666
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not so shot on that one. And

667
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: LSU has had a great history here recently and putting

668
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: linebackers in the draft and it working out for him.

669
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: But I do worry about him a little bit more.

670
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: I'll tell you another one I have a high grade on,

671
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: and I worry about Kelvi Joseph from Kentucky, you know.

672
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: I mean I've got him in the mix with Newsome

673
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: and Samuel Molden, those guys in the second round, but

674
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: there might be some guys, you know, Melofon, Woo, Graham Stokes.

675
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: I mean, there's some maybe some other guys that might

676
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: be better. I know I have him in that second round,

677
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: but I would worry a little bit about him. Maybe

678
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit of a bus factor there as well.

679
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: So there's a couple of defensive guys. I have some

680
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: concerns about going into this thing. I feel like I

681
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: have in the right spot, but I do have a

682
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: little bit of apprehension about him well, And I want

683
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: to mention the boom part of this too, because I

684
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: feel like everybody that's listening is going to hear us

685
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: pooh pooh the Michael Parsons idea. Michael Parsons could be

686
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: an eight time All Pro in a Hall of Famer.

687
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: Very sure. That's the physical tools here. Like I think

688
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: Parsons is boom er bust. I think they're Kelvin Joseph

689
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: is a great name for boom er bust. I think

690
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: the safety in Indiana, Jamar Johnson is a great name

691
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: for boom or bust. I think if you could get

692
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: him at seventy five, that's a real life free safety

693
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: that just has no idea how toling works. But if

694
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: you want a free safety that can cover and can

695
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: turn the ball over, I think Jamar Johnson is a

696
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: boomer bust guy. Gosh, there are just there's there's really

697
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm trying to think Nick Bolton, that's my

698
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: dream at forty four yea as a Missouri linebacker Nick Bolton.

699
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: But you are talking about five to eleven four sixth athlete.

700
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: The shuttles weren't very good, So like you're talking about

701
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: a guy that I absolutely love on tape that the

702
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: testing was not great, So I think maybe there's some

703
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: Boomer Bust there, But I'm more focused on the boom

704
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: where I think he could be an outstanding NFL linebacker

705
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: that may tumble his way into the mid second round

706
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: because he's quote small and didn't test great. Yeah you

707
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: could also throw in Grant as well. I know we've

708
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: all talked about the safety you know there, but yeah, man,

709
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: that's one of those ones looks really great on tape

710
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: and you look at the testing numbers, probably not as

711
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: great as they needed to be, but don't I mean,

712
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: that's one of those kinds. If you get a guy

713
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: like that, he could come in play a long time

714
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, wait, some of the things are

715
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: starting to show up that, you know, the testing numbers wise,

716
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: that that make him, you know, make him have that

717
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: kind of a career. I feel bad. Oh sorry, Jeff,

718
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: go ahead, but I was just going to throw on

719
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: a couple of quick names real quick. The defensive tackle

720
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: class I think has a lot of Boomer bust in

721
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: it owns Rique at Washington. I think that's big time

722
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: Boomer bust. I think he's being talked about his potential

723
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: first round pick, and it's off of physical tools. I don't.

724
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: To me, it's not off of tape Marvin Wilson, who

725
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: has two years as what a eighteen and nineteen year

726
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: old of dominating college football, and then tape this last

727
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: year where a lot of times they're running a three

728
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: man line and it's a different spot and he looks

729
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: like he's bigger and maybe not as explosive. Marvin Wilson

730
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: I think might be the best defensive tackle in this

731
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: draft class. Wow. And and maybe what happened to him

732
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: in his third year in college football is that it

733
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: was too easy to him and he didn't work hard enough.

734
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm totally speculating. So maybe he's a

735
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: complete bust. Maybe he's the best D tackle in the class.

736
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: Christian Barmore D tackle yea, Alabama didn't play him on rundowns.

737
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: They were acting like he's some dominant one technique. They

738
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't let him play football until it was done to

739
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: rush the passer. So I think a lot of the

740
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: D tackle class, my top three D tackles, I think

741
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: they're all Boomer bust. That's I mean that goes in

742
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: hand with what I was gonna say, which is I

743
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: feel a little bit bad. It's just the nature of

744
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: edge rushers is that they play such an important position

745
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: that they get overdrafted. There's not a single guy that

746
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: I would be shocked, you know. I mean, Quitty pay

747
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: always comes to mind, just because his production last year

748
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: wasn't amazing, but you know, he'll probably be a top

749
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: twenty at least the top twenty five pick, but probably

750
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: even higher because of the position that he plays. And

751
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of those guys. Joseph Acai,

752
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: I think he's really intriguing, but I don't trust that

753
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: that's going to translate. And that State guy, yeah away away, Yeah,

754
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: like maybe maybe the most talented, like Purelyalenton, of all

755
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: of them are certainly in the conversation with like none

756
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: of the production to go along with it, but absolutely

757
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: could be a first round pick on potential alone. So

758
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: that's edge rushers scared the bejesus out of me. And

759
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: that is unless it's unless it's a can't miss guy

760
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: like a Chase Young. It scares the crap out of me,

761
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: which I know, take my gut, Peyton Turner, take my gut,

762
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: Peyton Turner. I mean, if you say, though, but it's

763
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: a good player, it's scared. We're not betting on whipping

764
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: around the corner and translating to the just athleticism. We're

765
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: gonna get the guy who uses length and those he

766
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: still went and can play multiple spots. Let's go. That's

767
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: why I would I would take Boogie Basham before. I

768
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: took a lot of these guys like just because so

769
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: and the trying kid from Washington's another good one to

770
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: watch too. So there's some guys that are really steady players,

771
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: and I think there's gonna be some huge value in

772
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: like you say that second third round, there's some of

773
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: these guys, but you know, you just got to try

774
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: and hope that you get the right one. That's always

775
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: the trick here with the drive. I've got a third

776
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: round boomer Bus guy that I really like. I got

777
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: to actually call a game of his previously, and I

778
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: think he's a fantastic player. Edge rusher Jordan Smith from

779
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: u AB is somebody I think you should keep your

780
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 1: eye on for a player that could potentially boom or bust.

781
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: That it's more likely that he's a bust coming out

782
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: of conference Tosa, but still something that you should keep

783
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: your eye on. Now, Dave, I've got fifth round grade

784
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: on him here. Fifth round grade, Okay, so I was

785
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: like late fourth. I think he's where I'm at. But

786
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: he's still somebody who I really do like in that

787
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: that area. Dave, this is a really quick question for you,

788
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: and this comes from b Human. He says, is Quitty

789
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: pay really on the Cowboys radar at this point? Of course,

790
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 1: Michigan not, I mean, not that I'm aware of at ten.

791
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: But again, like you know, and that's that's the scary part.

792
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: And the people that I've talked to, like I mean,

793
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: it's it's beyond obvious that they want a cornerback, like

794
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 1: anybody can figure that out. I think they're more interested

795
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: in linebacker than the three or the four of us

796
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: would probably prefer them to be. I haven't heard a

797
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: lot of noise about edge rushers, but again, the position

798
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: is so valuable and the upside is so high. I

799
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: don't think you can rule anything out, but at ten,

800
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: I haven't heard a lot about that. I would the

801
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: linebacker thing, Dave that you're mentioned, I actually want them

802
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: to be interested in linebackers. I just don't want them

803
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: to do it at ten because oh no, that's but

804
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. I mean at ted. Yeah, no,

805
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: they absolutely should be interested in linebacker. But I think

806
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: we would all agree not at number ten because if

807
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are a smart organization, and then I'm just

808
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: gonna say things they're not gonna do, which is just

809
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: gonna be very offensive. But like Layton Vanderis, I you

810
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: can't stay on the field. I can't pay you ten

811
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: million dollars for your fifth year. I gotta turn down

812
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: your fifth year option. And when Jalen Smith's contract in

813
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: the way he's played recently, I went out of it

814
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: as soon as possible. If I'm the Cowboys, I'm in

815
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: the market to replace both with my linebackers within the

816
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: next twelve months. Good. Yeah, it's totally possible. I think

817
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: that I think Quitty Pay, and for all the faults

818
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: that we might see in Quitty Pay, I think what

819
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: happens with him is because he's Michigan, he's defensive end,

820
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: and we think of Taco. That's I think that's in

821
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: a lot of people's minds. But you know, look at

822
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: the kid Gary that went to the Packers and from Michigan.

823
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: He's playing a lota to a defensive end. I just think,

824
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: I just think that people in their mind are thinking

825
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: Edge Rush or Michigan Taco, which I unfortunate, I hope not,

826
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: because they couldn't be more dissimilar. Like Quitty Pay is

827
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: a freak, actually, no question. I'm just telling you what

828
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: people associate Michigan and defensive end with. Honestly, I think

829
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: you're probably right. People do that a lot. I mean,

830
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: people still talk trash about LSU dbs because of Mo claiborne,

831
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: So I get I get it, But I mean I

832
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't want them to pick Quitty Pay at ten, but

833
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: I'd probably be more excited about it. And I know that.

834
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: You know, I have to wear the blame because I

835
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: defended the taco pick more than most, but I would

836
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: probably be more excited because we said all along, we

837
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: were like tacos. Ceiling isn't as high as other guys,

838
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: but his floor could be higher as well, Like I

839
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: think Quddy Pay is pure ceiling. So it might be

840
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: a disaster, but if it works, it could work out

841
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: really really well. I actually don't mind Pay as a

842
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: floor guy because I think that the freak athleticism that

843
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: you're banking on is what can he turn into as

844
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. But I think as a run player,

845
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: he's already good. Like he's high effort, he's strong, he's

846
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: just the thing that he's missing is he hasn't developed

847
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: the pass rush yet and he doesn't have what the

848
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: NFL is so enamored with in terms of, hey, where's

849
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: your thirty five inch arm? But like, I think that

850
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: dude is physical, tough, high motor. I think he'll be

851
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: a good run player no matter what. And then it's

852
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: can we unlock this athleticism and turn you into a

853
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: great pass rusher? So I don't mind his floor. I

854
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: just think ten is like Dave, you talked about it

855
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: with all these pass rushers, all of them. The scouting

856
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: report is something like that, just talking about different things

857
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: that you're you feel good about and the other things

858
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: where it's like can I develop it? And it's just

859
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: it's such a strange class for the edge guys. But

860
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: I think quitity pay when you go with the Michigan thing.

861
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: He's stronger, he's more active, he's more athletic. Yeah, range,

862
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: but if you just had long arms, yeah yeah, if

863
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: you do the work. If you do the work, you

864
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: can see that Quitty Pay is a better player he is,

865
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: and that should alleviate a lot of your stress. I

866
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: would just like to think there's a more I would

867
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: like to think there's a more complete, ready made guy.

868
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: And I mean I'm not trying to dog Quinny Pay

869
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: too much, but that's more of like, oh man, I

870
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: hope he's really good as opposed like hopefully at number ten,

871
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: there should be a guy that I feel more confident about.

872
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: That's all. So would be that guy for me? Yeah,

873
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: rapid fire. Last question. I want to get this in

874
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: because I think it's a great one. Uh fill in

875
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: this sentence. If the Cowboys do not draft blank position

876
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: in the first three rounds of this draft, it would

877
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: be a mistake. Brian, start us off. Which position would

878
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: be a mistake if you don't hit it at least

879
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: once in this draft in the first three rounds. I

880
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: think cornerback is it. I mean the corners are really

881
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: you know, the corners, the wide receivers. I think you've

882
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: got to find a way to get a cornerback. I

883
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: want to say that the safety position could stretch a

884
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: little bit at free but I think you need to

885
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: draft a corner out of this thing, that the quality

886
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: through the rounds is just too good to pass up.

887
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: I think that will absolutely do Man Dave. Cornerback is

888
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: the answer. But since Brian already said it, and I'll

889
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: actually I think this is more important to the point

890
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: Death made a minute ago. Linebacker and the reason why

891
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboy the Cowboys front office they need a cornerback.

892
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred. I know they're looking at him.

893
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: But did they think linebacker is as drastic a need

894
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: as we do? Or are they sitting over here basically

895
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: in denial about Jalen and you know, maybe thinking like, oh,

896
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, we can pick up Layton's option and he'll

897
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Speaker 1: be healthy and it's not a concern and Dan Quinn's

898
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna get Jayalen right. Like, I could absolutely see the

899
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: front office pumping some sunshine and ignoring linebacker, and I

900
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: think that would be a huge mistake. I will say safety,

901
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: because you're Kurt starting free safety. His guaranteed money is

902
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: one tenth of what haha Clinton Dix was guaranteed, and

903
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: he's coming off of a torn achilles. So I think

904
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Speaker 1: you need to draft a guy you think can play

905
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: free safety in the first three rounds. I like, so

906
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Speaker 1: basically the whole defense. Yeah, I was about to say,

907
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Speaker 1: the whole You can throw defensive tackle. You can throw

908
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Speaker 1: defensive tackle in there too, if you want to throw

909
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Speaker 1: an engine there. Yeah. Gosh, don't yell at me. Don't

910
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Speaker 1: yell at me too much. But Mike, if defensive tackle

911
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913
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914
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917
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918
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919
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Speaker 1: you brought up this thought in our in our group

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Speaker 1: message leading into today's show, and David I actually kind

964
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Speaker 1: of had this conversation briefly yesterday in studio. But are

965
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Speaker 1: we really putting enough stock in JC Horne as a

966
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Speaker 1: potential number one corner in this draft class, maybe even

967
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: above Patrick Curtan or are we crazy even thinking that's

968
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: anywhere close to being the case. No, I actually have

969
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971
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Speaker 1: I'll put it out and show you that I have

972
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Speaker 1: Jac Horne above Certana and it's no disrespect to Certan

973
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: at all. And you know, if the Cowboys take him,

974
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's fine. I have no problem with that.

975
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: I just think that to me, in this day and

976
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: age the National Football League, you've got to have guys

977
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: at battle. You gotta have guys that are tough. You

978
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: gotta have guys at corner to play with a chip

979
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: on their shoulder. And I and I think that to me,

980
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: you look at Horn, he's a guy that's like that.

981
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: His dad was that type of a player. With the Saints.

982
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: You always played with a chip. I think the kid

983
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: has that same type of ability physically, He's what you

984
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: wanted a cornerback, Sir Tamble. It's good too. I just

985
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: feel like with Horn though, I want that competitive, tough edge,

986
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: and I think that he brings that and that's why

987
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: I have him above certain Dave. I have him. Oh good. Sorry,

988
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: So I never know who's gonna go, but it's no

989
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: part of me wonders. Part of me wonders if maybe

990
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: this is just boredom because Certan has been the top

991
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: cornerback since October probably maybe even longer than that, so

992
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: maybe people are just looking for reasons to switch it up.

993
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: But with that in mind, I have, you know, talked

994
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: to people I know who do this for a living,

995
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, am I stupid for thinking this? And

996
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: They're like, I'm not gonna say definitively one way or

997
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: the other, but you're definitely not crazy, and they're definitely

998
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: gonna be teams that agree with that. Like I guarantee

999
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: you there are teams that think Horn is the top

1000
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: corner and I want to be careful because, like I've

1001
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: never met Patrick Surtan, he started multiple years at the

1002
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: best program in the country, Like you don't pull that

1003
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: off without having some alpha mentality to you. But I'm

1004
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: with Brian, like J. C. Horne seems like he's got

1005
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Speaker 1: the type of you know, alpha pain in the ass,

1006
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: chip on the shoulder attitude where he could come in

1007
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: here as a rookie and be like, no, like we're

1008
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: changing the culture in here, like you know, we're we're

1009
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: not getting toasted the way we have. Like he almost

1010
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: like like a Richard Sherman type of mentality where he's

1011
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: gonna make the play and then trash talk his own

1012
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: teammate for throwing the paths, you know, and that's really

1013
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: really intriguing when you remember how pitiful this defense looked

1014
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: at times last year. So I don't think you can

1015
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: go wrong either way, but I think it is a

1016
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: very worthwhile conversation that JC Horn might be the better player.

1017
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: Horn my number one cornerback too. I have him above

1018
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: cur Tan. But I also think that for NFL teams,

1019
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 1: a lot of what this is, especially early in the draft,

1020
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: is risk management, and with cur Tan, you're you have

1021
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: less risk. Like cir Tan is an outstanding tackler. He

1022
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: like there's nothing on a football field that he doesn't

1023
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: do well, and with JC Horne, He's a wild tackler

1024
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: who just kind of ducks his head and lunges. He

1025
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: had five penalties in the games they played last year.

1026
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: He's grabby. So like, there are more things that I

1027
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: think the team is going to look at and see

1028
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: risk with, but I also look at the positives of Horn,

1029
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: which is when South Carolina they get off the plane

1030
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: or the bus or whatever, they say, well, who's the

1031
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: best guy. Horn's got him, And it doesn't matter if

1032
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: it's a tight end, the slot receiver, the outside, it

1033
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He's going where that guy is and that

1034
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: guy's gonna hate him for the entire football game. So

1035
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: Horn's my number one guy. But I think that we

1036
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: do we do have to ignowit knowledge that going that

1037
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: route and saying that Horne is your top corner is

1038
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: saying I know the risks of JC Horn, and I

1039
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: accept it because I'm betting on the mentality, with the athleticism,

1040
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: with the ball skills and the versatility that he's gonna

1041
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: go cover the best guy. He's not just playing corner.

1042
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: He's gonna come find you and you're not going to

1043
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: enjoy that day. That's what's kind of interru Horn Fan

1044
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 1: Club Basic. I was about to say that what's intriguing

1045
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: to me because I feel like we've talked about this

1046
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: from the beginning of Patrick Urtan being that number one guy,

1047
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: and then out of all of a sudden, we're three

1048
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: weeks from the draft and now J. C. Horne is

1049
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: the number one option at corner. Is it should we

1050
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: be scared? Well? No, But I mean there's people like

1051
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: myself that had Farley over both those guys, true, you know,

1052
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: and and and so I don't think that's your Tan

1053
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: has always been the number one guy, I know before

1054
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: the back problems, and talk is some teams around the

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00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: league they absolutely love Farley, you know, and we're willing

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00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, he is the top guy. But with

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00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: the back thing, you can't have him as your top

1058
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: guy unless some teams are totally saying, oh, it's not

1059
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: going to be a problem. But yeah, I mean Curtan

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00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: is what you know about Curtan and Dave and Jeff

1061
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: did a great job. What you know about Curtan is

1062
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: he went to one of the best programs in the country.

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00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: He's playing huge games, He's been a starter for a

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00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: lot of years. He's got coached by Nick Saban Hard

1065
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: the Saban coaches those the secondary in Alabama. You know

1066
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: his technique is going to be good. You know, his

1067
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: ability to make plays off man, whatever he has to do.

1068
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 1: And you're right, it's about avoiding. It's about it's about

1069
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: the risk. You know, what is your risk? What are

1070
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 1: you willing to tolerate? You want somebody safe and steady,

1071
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: or do you want a guy that's going to be

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00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: combative and not down balls and get balls and get

1073
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: turnovers and stuff. That's where you But he might be

1074
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: wheels off too. He might get oldiepenally late in the game.

1075
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: That's gonna kill you. That's where you have to be

1076
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: able to evaluate these guys right now. And you know,

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00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: I think if the Cowboys had an opportunity to draft

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00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: between Curtan and Horn, I think they would take Certain.

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00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: I really really do. I was about to say the

1080
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: same thing and I and it's not a knock on anybody.

1081
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: I do think. I do think some of it is

1082
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: boredom on a lot of levels, like boredom from just

1083
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: talking about Certain and boredom because Curtan is so safe

1084
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: like that, like everybody. You know his technique, he's he's sound,

1085
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,479
Speaker 1: he's not flashy, and you know, when you're talking about

1086
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: a top ten pick, like as mean as it sounds

1087
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: to say, that's that's not super exciting, So people look

1088
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: for a more exciting alternative. And I completely agree with Brian.

1089
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: I love jac Horn. I like, you know, I be

1090
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys pick and a perfect world for all the

1091
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: reasons he just listed. Hey, guys, I think there's a

1092
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: chance Greg Newsom ends up being the best corner in

1093
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: this class. Oh you can't just throw that out there

1094
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: two minutes from the end of the show and not

1095
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: give any experts. I throw it out there. I mean,

1096
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: that's that's Jeff's thing is to find a guy who's

1097
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: like in the conversation but not really and be like, no,

1098
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: he's way but apparently, can I ask you what you

1099
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: can Ik, Kelvin Joseph gets along with everybody, then there's

1100
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: a chance Kelvin Joseph ends up being the best corner

1101
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: in this drafts. Yeah, I mean, as you though about

1102
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: Newsom though, did you you see how much off coverage

1103
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: and stuff that he plays at Northwestern? Do you really

1104
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: see his ability as a player. Yeah, they play a

1105
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: ton of very deep cover three which keeps everything in

1106
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: front of him, right, Yeah, so you can't complete deep

1107
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: balls on him, but it's part of the scheme. But

1108
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: I think his athletic testing is what really helped him

1109
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: for me, because never you couldn't really know because of

1110
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: what they were asking him to do. But I think

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00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: you take the instincts, the ball skills, what was on tape,

1112
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: and then you say, oh, and perhaps he is an

1113
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: elite athlete and you go, Wow, Okay, that dude's gonna

1114
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: be really really good. Interesting. I don't disagree with you.

1115
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it goes back to the conversation we

1116
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: had in the first segment where I think a better

1117
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: player will be available at ten. That's the beauty and

1118
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: the curse of number ten is it's like how far

1119
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: down you know, how far down on your board do

1120
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: you want to go? Preferably not at all. That's a

1121
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: beauty of the trade down. You trade down, you might

1122
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: still you go down on the board about Yeah, but

1123
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: we've talked about this before in our show too. Jeff

1124
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: is like, how many teams behind you have? Cornerback is

1125
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: a primary or a secondary? Need? You know? I think

1126
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: there were like I bet six corners go in the

1127
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: first I bet five or six corners go in the

1128
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: first round. Yeah, that's the problem. That's the problem, right there,

1129
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: is somebody gonna let you get back in the draft,

1130
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: and or let you get back in, and is somebody

1131
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: gonna let you come down knowing that you're hunting a

1132
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: corner at that spot, you know that where they're hunting

1133
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: a corner too. That's the that's the pitfall a little bit,

1134
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: or the things the navigation of the minefield that you

1135
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: have to go through in this draft fifty. Going back

1136
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: to the doomsday scenario, I'm with Jeff that I'm not

1137
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: convinced it's doomsday, not because of Jamar Chase, but like, yeah,

1138
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: like if if Trey Lance or even Mac Jones slides

1139
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: to ten New England, or how about Chicago at twenty,

1140
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: somebody shoot Ryan Pace is like a thumbnail away from

1141
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: getting fired. You think he's not going to try to

1142
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: do something bold to get a quarterback last time, but no, Oh, well,

1143
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: appreciate this. I hope you read it on Dallas Cowboys

1144
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: dot com. I encourage you. Great website for our mailbag

1145
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: today is somebody was asking about trading back and I said,

1146
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: if Chicago wants to give you next year's one to

1147
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: come up from twenty. I'm doing that all day because

1148
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: there will be good players sitting there at twenty. Absolutely,

1149
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: yeah I would. I would do that as well. But

1150
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm also really surprised on the horn over, sir Tan.

1151
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 1: But I do have to add this in right before

1152
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: we have to get off the air. But our guy

1153
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts, whenever he was asked, who was your toughest

1154
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: matchup during your time in college? Do you know if

1155
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: he played both Patrick Sutan and jac Horne? And he said,

1156
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: mister j Yeah he did, because he was annoyed. You

1157
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: can see it on tape. He hated J. C. Horne.

1158
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: He was like, the son of a biscuit is grabbing

1159
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: me every play. You guys aren't calling it. He's annoying.

1160
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: I hate him, Like it was on tap. You can

1161
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: see it. He hated it. Yeah he did, and he

1162
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: was very open about that, saying then Jac Horne was

1163
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: the toughest matchup that Kyle Pitts had the entirety of

1164
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: his collegiate career. But that's going to do it for

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Speaker 1: us here on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show.

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01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: Be sure to keep up with these guys throughout the week.

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01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,439
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Speaker 1: their respective media outlets. But for Chris Beam, National Champion,

1169
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: Baylor Bear in the back pushing the buttons. As always,

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Speaker 1: we've got Brian brought us, David Hellman, Jeff kavanaughm Kyle

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