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Speaker 1: Welcome to a special Friday edition of Big Blue Kick

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Speaker 1: Golf Live, presented by Corps Light. I am John Schmelk.

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Speaker 1: Paul Deatina will be joining us in just a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes. He's finishing up taping another video and he'll

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Speaker 1: be with us in just a couple of minutes to

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Speaker 1: talk Giants football. No call today, folks, will We do

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Speaker 1: have three big time draft guests coming your way. Rob

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Speaker 1: rang will be joining us later in the show, as

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Speaker 1: will Rick Sarah Tella. But we'll lead off today's show

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Speaker 1: with our good buddy Dan Shango, who joins us every

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Speaker 1: year from our lads dot Com. Dan, you have John

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Speaker 1: Schmilk and Paul Detina holl be with us in just

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Speaker 1: one second here in East Weather from New Jersey at

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Speaker 1: the Giants practice facility. Good afternoon, how are you. I'm

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Speaker 1: doing good. I can't wait for the scout absolutely and Dan.

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Speaker 1: It was funny Paul's now with us, and I was

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Speaker 1: gonna sneak in all the quarterback questions before he got here.

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Speaker 1: Is he didn't have to listen to it. But I'll

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Speaker 1: start with that anyway. You're gonna torture me, Uh, I

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Speaker 1: am well, I was gonna try to get him in

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Speaker 1: before you got here. That's why I started. So let's

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Speaker 1: let's start with this, Dan, And we've talked about the

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Speaker 1: top guys a lot, so I'm gonna start with a

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Speaker 1: little off the wall question or a little maybe down

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Speaker 1: the board question. Why do you think NFL teams And

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Speaker 1: maybe you disagree with this, but I've heard around the

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Speaker 1: league that you're gonna have maybe a third of the

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Speaker 1: teams in this league having a first round and get

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Speaker 1: great on Daniel Jones when maybe people that cover the

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Speaker 1: draft for a living don't share that opinion. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones in the first round draft? Well yeah, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: the daan I agree with you. But do you do

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Speaker 1: you think that a lot of teams do have him

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Speaker 1: as a first round draft pick or do you think

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Speaker 1: that's a false narrative? I just you know, more smoke,

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Speaker 1: you know, or sometimes some national uh analysts put something

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Speaker 1: falling around, you know, like got uh, I'm rested in

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Speaker 1: her pocket. So I mean, I think the people that

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Speaker 1: you know, we evaluate Daniel Jones and all you know,

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Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks, you know, they all right, in their

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Speaker 1: own opinion. It's just that you know whose opinion you

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Speaker 1: can listen to, somebody that's done it for a long time,

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Speaker 1: or somebody that you know just got on their mom's

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Speaker 1: basement in their computer and wrote something up. Dan, let

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Speaker 1: me take you back to the good old day. Since

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Speaker 1: you and I are old school fellas, it seems to

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Speaker 1: me that part of the reason that we got so

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Speaker 1: much of this smoke out there and so much of

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Speaker 1: this misdirection is because of the blogs and the Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and the multiple cable outlets and the multiple sports radio outlets.

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Speaker 1: Back in the seventies or even the eighties. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Dave Getleman was telling us that decades ago he remembers

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Speaker 1: walking into the team president's office, the guy showed him

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Speaker 1: the list of his first round projection, and the guy

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Speaker 1: got over ninety of him. Right, because in those days,

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Speaker 1: there wasn't as much garbage going around because you didn't

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Speaker 1: rest of the junk that's floating around out there nowadays. No,

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Speaker 1: you're exactly right, and believe that the thing. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a so much white noise, but but that's the reason

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Speaker 1: you know, I put the Paris scup, want to you know,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, let's do it. You just concentrate

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Speaker 1: on you know. That's the way at Baker Mayfield number

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Speaker 1: study the film, you know, And that's what's kind of

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Speaker 1: tough this year. You know, a couple of quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: quite simply. Dave Gentleman spoke at his press conference on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: You gotta get stronger. Uh. He showed pretty good ability

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Speaker 1: best Dan Shocker from our lads dot Com. Great information

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Speaker 1: Of course, Robb, he got John Schmulkin pulled the Tino.

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Speaker 1: Great to talk to you again this year. How's it going.

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Speaker 1: It's going well. Thanks for having me on guys, as always, Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: at about percent. And the reason I say that is

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Speaker 1: because we talked about this every year that it costs

425
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: so much to move up. Well, this year, I think

426
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Speaker 1: that that is going to be cost prohibited for a

427
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: lot of clubs. And the reason again that I say

428
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: that is because you think of where this draft class

429
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: really stands apart from some of the other years, is

430
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: along a defensive line, at safety, at tight end. And

431
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: those are not obviously as the elite positions, like the

432
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: way the quarterback was the quarterback position was last year.

433
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: But that said, that's it's exceedingly rare that you have

434
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Speaker 1: such great classes along with defensive line, tight end and safety.

435
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: It's only once every five years or so we get

436
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: a class um as good as these, as good as

437
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,959
Speaker 1: this at those positions. And I would argue that the

438
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: defensive line, it's the best I've ever seen. And you know,

439
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 1: for the last few months, I've been doing an instinctive

440
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: scouting podcast with with former NFL general manager Scott McClellan,

441
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: and he's been doing this for almost third of years

442
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: and he has characterized as the best he's ever seen

443
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: along the defensive line. So it just, you know, it

444
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: goes to show you how how rare this draft classes.

445
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: And because of that, I just don't know, there's gonna

446
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: be a lot of teams who are gonna be willing

447
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: to trade up and give away those the second and

448
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: third day picks. That, of course, is what every team.

449
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: That's the lifeblood of every nfloster. It's funny, Rob we

450
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: just had Dan Shankan, who does this draft stuff too,

451
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: does a great job, and you guys are on now

452
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: let's say polar opposites, But he doesn't have Montez, Sweat

453
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: and Oliver in that top group the way you do.

454
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Speaker 1: Why do you like them in that elite tier with

455
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: the Bosses, with the Alan's, with the Williams. Well. I

456
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: have a great deal of respect for Danishanka, But the

457
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: reason I have those two players there is because my

458
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: eyes see athletic ability that translates to the NFL. It's

459
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: the production for all for both of those players. I

460
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: mean at Oliver, I see a guy who the University

461
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: of Houston put inside as a nose guard at the

462
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: point in seventy Towns and so he was not he

463
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: was not asked to play the role that is going

464
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: to lead to eye popping production. But you see the traits.

465
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Speaker 1: You see the initial quickness, you see the lateral agility,

466
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: you see the want to you know, I mean there's

467
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: some there's some negativity out there as far as who

468
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: he is as a football character. I know that I was,

469
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, kind of following him over the summer, and

470
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: and this is a guy who was doing incredible work

471
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Speaker 1: over the off season to prepare himself for this stage.

472
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Speaker 1: Uh you know, so I think that at Oliver is

473
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Speaker 1: gonna be a future pro bowler. UM with Montest would

474
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: have a little bit more concerned because the fact that

475
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: he does have a little bit of the character of

476
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: red Flags that came with him from Michigan State. UM

477
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 1: that said, I love the competitive spirit that he showed

478
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: in his decision to compete at the Senior Bowl. I mean,

479
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: he didn't have to do that, but he wanted to

480
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: show that he wasn't just another guy competing next to

481
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: Jeffrey simmons um and then so he was my cop

482
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: right player heading into the week of the Senior Bowl.

483
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: I watched him there dominant basically everybody they put in

484
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: front of him. Uh. And then obviously he goes to

485
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: the combine and that's where a lot of other people

486
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: jumped on board. But Mantes Sweat has been the top

487
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: twenties player on my board the entire process, and he

488
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: has moved into the top ten mix, I guess for some,

489
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: but for me, he's still in that top twelve mix

490
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: has always been there. Um. And then you just see

491
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: that he has such the incredible length and speed in

492
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Speaker 1: that combination that what I believe projects so well to

493
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: the next clever rob. I'm gonna go a little bigger

494
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: picture here. Let's just talk about the first round. Can

495
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: you give us the one guy who everybody's talking about

496
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: as a first round pick who's going to fall out

497
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: of the round, and maybe somebody who nobody's talking about

498
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: who's going to find himself in the first round. That's

499
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: a tough one. I mean, it's actually well, I'm over

500
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 1: here in the Pacific Northwest, and so I'm gonna talk

501
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: about two University of Washington players. The one that could

502
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: fall out as Byron Murphy, the cornerback. UM and I

503
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: have been as high on Byron Murphy, it's just about anybody. UM.

504
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: At the same time, having gone to his pro day

505
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: and UH and watched how he carries himself, there is

506
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of immaturity with this young man. He

507
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: is just a red shirt sophomore. UM. He does have

508
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: a child. He has switched agents here since the end

509
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: of the season, UM, and and so there's just enough

510
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: little red flags with him. Oh, by the way, he

511
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: struggled with injuries, and and he's a little bit lighter

512
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: than people like that said. If it was me, I

513
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: would still take this young man in the first round,

514
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: hands down. I think that he is the best all

515
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: around quarterback in this draft class, but because of his

516
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: physicality in the run game, much more reliable in that

517
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: regard than Greedy Williams, who is my top rated corner

518
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: But I have some real reservations about Greedy Williams. He's

519
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: another one who I think it's going to slide down

520
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: the board per farther than people think, because you don't

521
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: you have to do more than just cover in this league,

522
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: um and so I think both those two corps are

523
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: gonna slide down on the flip side. Caleb McGarry, the

524
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: right tackle from Washington, came to the thing as I

525
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: mentioned before with Montez sweat. Caleb mcgarny not only is

526
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: the Morris Trophy Award winner over Andre Dillard, the left

527
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: tackle from Washingtontate to everybody is just falling over themselves

528
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: with Cayleb. McGary was the player that the Pac twelve

529
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: defensive lineman said was the best blocker in the conference.

530
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: Went to the Senior Bowl, was absolutely spectacular and the

531
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: only knock people have about this guy is that his

532
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: arms are a little short, but kind of like the

533
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: forty yard dash. I believe that arm length can be

534
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: very much overrated if you watch the tape and see

535
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: that length has never been an issue for the six

536
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: seven pound Caleb McGary. Coming out of the combine, rob

537
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: I was so so high on McGary as a possible

538
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: sleeper who might even be a third round or a

539
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: lot of people say going into the combine he could

540
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: be a fourth rounder. And then all of a sudden, boom,

541
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: he starts moving up and up and up and up

542
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: and now it doesn't sound like you can touch him

543
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: in the mid second round, and now you're saying he

544
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: could even sneak it to the end of the first round.

545
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: You guys are killing be exposing by sleepers. I appreciate

546
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: your eye for talent. You're absolutely right about him. At

547
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: the same time, he's the Kila mcgary' is a four

548
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: year starter. Certainly hasn't been a sleeper for me. Again,

549
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: you've been a player I've had in my top fifty

550
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: board all years. Good for you, and I think he's

551
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: just proving that. I'll put it like this, Taylor McGarry,

552
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: I guarantee you is going in the top fifty in

553
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: this draft class, and I again I wouldn't be surprised

554
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: at off he cracks that top thirty two. He's an ox,

555
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: he's big, He's a big boy who joined by Rob

556
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: ryaning NFL drafts got Rob a couple other things I

557
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: want to touch with you on. Dave Gentleman spoke at

558
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: his press conference on Thursday about how he thought this

559
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: was one of the deepest draft he's been evolved in.

560
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: He's had more grades round through four in this class

561
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: and he has in any other class. He's analyzed into me.

562
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: That tells me in the middle of this draft, once

563
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: you get through that first maybe top tier or two

564
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: of players, there's gonna be a lot of differences in

565
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: NFL teams here. One team might have a player at

566
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 1: seventy and other might have that same player at forty

567
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: five or thirty five. And I think that there's gonna

568
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: be a lot of differences in these boards around the league.

569
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: And while I'm with you, I don't think you can

570
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: have a lot of action in the top five or

571
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: top ten. It would not surprise me because I think

572
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: these boards are going to be very different. You see

573
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: a lot of moving around two and three as teams

574
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: maybe try to target some specific guys that they might

575
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: like more than other teams. Grow out absolutely and that

576
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: that's exactly my point is why I don't believe that

577
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: there's necessarily going to be quite as many trades this year, um,

578
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: just because teams are going to be really hesitant to

579
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: give up those second, third and fourth round selections. Not

580
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: sure if you have a guy that you like and

581
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: you start to get nervous because there's a run on receivers,

582
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: here's a run on corners, there's a run on again

583
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: that that terrific defensive line safety or tight end class,

584
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: teams are gonna get nervous. And so that's why I

585
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: do think that you're going to see a lot more

586
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: trades on throughout Day two in the early portion of

587
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: Day three, because it's a lot easier to uh to

588
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: give up a seventh round kick or even draft selections.

589
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: Next year's draft will be able to move up than

590
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: those middle rounds. You know. Interesting John brings up the

591
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: middle round selections, Well, to me, that's where you really

592
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: find the juicy spot for wide receivers. I mean, there

593
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 1: are a few guys high, but I think once you

594
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: get to the beginning of that third day robin and

595
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm asking you if you agree, the wide receiver you

596
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: take should be very very bountiful so to speak. Oh, absolutely.

597
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean that that's to me where the wide receiver

598
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: class really takes off. I mean, because everybody's gonna be

599
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: talking about the the DK Metcalfs of the world, and

600
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: players are that uh, you know that kind of hype.

601
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: Marcus Brown, guys like that. But in Day two is

602
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: where I would love to be selecting a wide receiver.

603
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: McKiel Harry and a pack twelve guy. I'm sounding like

604
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: I all I watch is Pack twelve out here, but uh,

605
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: McKiel Harry is a terrific football player. I think he's

606
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: to me. He reminds actually have another former Pack twelve guy,

607
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, who you know just wound up going in

608
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: the third round. And remember that third round a couple

609
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: of years back because people had reservations about a straight

610
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: line speed and always done it's become a pro bowler

611
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: for the Chargers. That is exactly the type of player

612
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: I think then Kiel Harry is going to be. He

613
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: doesn't have the four three speed, you know, but he

614
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: came in the low four fives. He uses his body

615
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: so well. He's a route runner. He is also physical.

616
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: He catches every path with his hands. He can be

617
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: a punt returner. Watch the punt return he had for

618
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: a touchdown against Southern cow. When people tell me he

619
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: can't move, I mean, this is a guy who can

620
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: actually kept for a touchdown, I should say against Southern Cown,

621
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: people tell me that he doesn't have agility and in

622
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: the burst that you're looking for the number one and

623
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Those are the types of players I mean

624
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: A j Brown Old Miss. You know, everybody talks about

625
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: DK Metcalfe, A J. Brown was the most productive of

626
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: the two, you know. So there's just a number of

627
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: players in this year's draft class at wide receiver position

628
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: who I think you're being overshadowed because they don't have

629
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: that six five height, they don't have the four or four.

630
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: But they're better football players than some of the guys

631
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: who are tall, earn faster. That's the thing is when

632
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: you you watch the tape instead of just worrying about

633
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: what they measures in on on a combined you know,

634
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: forty yard dash times than there's a whole different list

635
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: of players. Kind of the John's point before about how

636
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: there's gonna be so much different fluctuation between what one

637
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: team views as a the top seventy five guy when

638
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Speaker 1: other team views is a top fifty player. Yeah, Rob

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Speaker 1: In the same way you mentioned as a deep safety class,

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Speaker 1: and I've been watching safety is the last week or so.

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Speaker 1: It's the variety. You have box guys, You've got guys

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Speaker 1: that can cover in the slot, and you have the

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Speaker 1: single high guys, and you have a small group that

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Speaker 1: can maybe do two or three different things in those categories.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned it's a really deep class. Where's the sweet spot?

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Speaker 1: Because I think you're gonna see seven or eight guys

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Speaker 1: be off the board by the end of round two.

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Speaker 1: It's that strong of a class. Who are some of

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Speaker 1: the guys you like in round three that might be

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Speaker 1: able to help complement a jabro Pepper's a player the

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Speaker 1: Giants acquired this offseason. Uh. Well, let's say, like, like

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Speaker 1: one of the players that I'm high on that isn't

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Speaker 1: getting a much tension would be Marquis Blair, another pack

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Speaker 1: twelve guy from the University of Utah um as a

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Speaker 1: single high safety type. He definitely have the ball skills

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Speaker 1: that you're looking for. But of course that's what Jervie

657
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: Preppers what was known for is being a playmaker. So

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Speaker 1: I think that they would complement each other well. He

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Speaker 1: has that straight line speed. Is a much taller player

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Speaker 1: than Pepper s pounds Uh Malik Gant if you're looking

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Speaker 1: for more of a of a run stuffer. Uh, I

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Speaker 1: had to get somebody that was outside the back twelve.

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Speaker 1: But Malik from from Marshall six ft two hundred and

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Speaker 1: ten pounds and it hits like a mack truck. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so he's that kind of a guy. Um. And then

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Speaker 1: one player and he's not going to be available in

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Speaker 1: the third round. But a guy that I am just

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Speaker 1: stunned I don't hear more people talking about is a

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Speaker 1: Monti Hooker from Iowa. He was the Hawkeyes third Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: I love him too. I mean his ability to play

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Speaker 1: just about every role they asked and play. They asked

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Speaker 1: him to play deep, they asked him to drop down

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Speaker 1: and playing the nickel cornerback position. When you guys asked that,

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Speaker 1: you know, started off the conversation about who is a

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Speaker 1: player that could jump into the late portion of the

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Speaker 1: first round that was surprising people. Hooker is one of

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Speaker 1: the other players. I think that absolutely, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: would be a surprise for a lot of people. But

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Speaker 1: I would if I had a top fifty selection. Um,

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Speaker 1: and he's not selected in the top thirty two. He

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Speaker 1: is one of those players. I think he's a plug

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00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: and play guy. Um. Again, you can play the safety rope,

683
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Speaker 1: it can also drop down, play that nickel corner roll,

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Speaker 1: and that versatility. It's what gets you on the field,

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Speaker 1: and so it warrants that the high of a selection.

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Speaker 1: You know, what's interesting to me Rob here we are

687
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Speaker 1: talking about how deep this draft is, and and Dave

688
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Speaker 1: Gettleman certainly told us about the plaudits of this draft

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Speaker 1: as well going in, and he's got twelve picks, and

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Speaker 1: under normal circumstances, there's no way a general manager is

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Speaker 1: gonna make twelve selections in a draft. In fact, I've

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Speaker 1: advocated that he should try to package some of these

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Speaker 1: suckers and move up in the second or third round

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Speaker 1: if at all possible. But it does sound like, because

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Speaker 1: there are so many players who may be available, even

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Speaker 1: in the fourth and fifth that could be productive make

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Speaker 1: a fifty three band roster a player maybe, just maybe

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Speaker 1: he's better off making these selections. What would you do

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Speaker 1: if you were him? Would you try to package some

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Speaker 1: of these picks or would you make the picks? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a draft guy, so I'm always the

702
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Speaker 1: more darts you can throw the dartboard, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: the better your chances are find some of those diamond

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Speaker 1: and the rough Day three players that uh that wind

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Speaker 1: up not only making your fifty three, but wind up

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Speaker 1: being stars. Um. But at the same time, I I

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Speaker 1: very much respect your opinion as far as to to

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Speaker 1: make some of those moves up. I mean is there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of really good football players, players

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Speaker 1: who normally would go in the first round, who are

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Speaker 1: going to be available, um in the early stages of

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Speaker 1: the second round. And so if you can move that,

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Speaker 1: to me, that's the sweet spot. If you can get

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Speaker 1: that number thirty three selection all the way down to

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Speaker 1: say fifty or so anywhere in there, I think that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to find quality football players are

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to make, you know, a fairly immediate

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Speaker 1: impact for you. I remember having these conversations with guys

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Speaker 1: last year about Will Hernandez and how much I liked

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Speaker 1: him and those of all the types that they really

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Speaker 1: can make an impact on your team. One of the

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Speaker 1: positions you mentioned, Robin, and this would be the final

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Speaker 1: question that we're going in your colleague Rick Santell on

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Speaker 1: next um, I'll tell him you said, hi, uh. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned the safety of the tight end class and the

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Speaker 1: safety classes two portions that were very deep. We even

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Speaker 1: talked about the tight ends. The Giants have en in

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Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, so they have the receiver tight end that

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Speaker 1: can split out and be a receiver and do those

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Speaker 1: sorts of things. If they want to try to find

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Speaker 1: right Ellison two point oh, then maybe can replace him

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Speaker 1: in that you know, line of scrimmage, run, block play,

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Speaker 1: action type of role. Who do you like on day three,

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Speaker 1: round late, round four, round five or six that you

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Speaker 1: think can kind of fit that role as more of

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Speaker 1: a blocker but also maybe contribute a little bit in

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Speaker 1: the past game again we're talking about the University of

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Speaker 1: Washington players, but so much of Will Distley another University

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Speaker 1: Washington player, but in the in the fifth round a

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Speaker 1: year ago, and he wound up being terrific for him

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Speaker 1: until he went down to in Dree. Drew Sample is

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Speaker 1: a better athlete than Will Dislee. He is also physical

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Speaker 1: at the point of attack. And so because there's the Giants,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, have Evan Ingram, they already have the

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Speaker 1: same type of player as say at Dawson Knox or

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Speaker 1: Josh Oliver uh maybe the Kahale Warring from San Diego State,

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Speaker 1: another big, physical player who had upside through the roof.

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Speaker 1: But because you're looking for a little bit more of

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Speaker 1: a blocker that I would say that Drew Sample is

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Speaker 1: one of those players is likely to be available on

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Speaker 1: Day three, but I think has starter caliber traits as

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Speaker 1: a blocking specialist, and somebody can also be that security

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Speaker 1: blanket over the middle. You know what's funny. Our Huskies

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Speaker 1: expert soft emailer from kJ r N Seattle was on

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Speaker 1: All program just the other day and raved about Sample

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Speaker 1: and said he will be a absolute stud blocking tight

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Speaker 1: end in this league. So you didn't shock me when

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Speaker 1: you threw that name out. Well, that's good to know

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Speaker 1: because otherwise I'm I felt like the biggest homewer on

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Speaker 1: the Well, when you've got references, I shouldn't. I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: let you guys know that I did not graduate from

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Speaker 1: the university. That's okay. Nine players invited to combine this year,

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Speaker 1: that speaks for itself. Rob, great stuff. We really appreciate

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Speaker 1: time is always enjoy the draft and we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you down the road, all right. Always a pleasure, guys,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having and I'm sure the rick is going

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Speaker 1: to entertain as well. Absolutely. That's Rob Rang does a

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Speaker 1: great job joining us every year. First time we've had

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Speaker 1: him that year, actually, which is great to have him

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Speaker 1: they can find the Draft Bible if they want to

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Speaker 1: get it. Hey, I see what you did there from

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Speaker 1: Robbie the double art connection. Good stuff. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: first off, the NFL Draft Bible publication is back to

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Speaker 1: the first draft guid I've done in about ten years.

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Speaker 1: Your previous guest, rob Rang played a big part in

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Speaker 1: you want to be prepared for the draft, if you

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Speaker 1: draft and the skill position players that there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of great nuggets in there. So NFL Draft Scout dot

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Speaker 1: Com right there in the menu bar, go get that

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Speaker 1: In fact, I just dropped the hard copy covers in

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Speaker 1: the mail today. It'll be coming to the training facility

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Speaker 1: any day now. For well, we appreciate that. And I

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Speaker 1: can tell you the only reason Paul's into this draft

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Speaker 1: stuff is were fantasy football. So you really struck lying

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Speaker 1: a he's lying a thousand percent, Rick. Look, I I

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Speaker 1: want to ask yourself that, Rick, because I think I

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Speaker 1: understand why when we talk to you and other guys

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Speaker 1: at the combine, we have been told that there are

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Speaker 1: probably anywhere between twelve to fifteen truly first own talents

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Speaker 1: in this draft. Okay, And and I understood that because

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Speaker 1: so many guys were saying it, you know, the premier

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Speaker 1: blue chip guys. But as we get closer and closer,

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Speaker 1: we're now less than a week away, we're hearing so

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Speaker 1: many plaudits about how deep the draft is. Dave Gettlebit

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Speaker 1: himself said it's the best first four rounds he has

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Speaker 1: ever seen in his experience in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: So that says to me, maybe there aren't as many

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Speaker 1: true old pros in this draft, but there may be more,

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Speaker 1: make it fifty three guys in this draft. Is that

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Speaker 1: how you're seeing it? Can you explain exactly how you're

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Speaker 1: delineating the quality and the depth of the guys in

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Speaker 1: this crop. I viewed a little bit differently. And I

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Speaker 1: get asked this question every year. It's the great question.

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Speaker 1: I get asked it on almost every show. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think every year there's typically about twenty

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Speaker 1: guys that you can say, hey, these guys their BONA

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Speaker 1: five first round picks in any year's draft. And hey,

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Speaker 1: Gettleman even went us far today to say, listen, there's

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Speaker 1: even a couple of gold jacket guys that didn't want

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Speaker 1: to put a number on it. Um. You know, it

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Speaker 1: is a deep and talented draft. However, I feel like

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Speaker 1: if you do your due diligence, there's equal amount of

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Speaker 1: great players in each year's draft. We don't always talk

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Speaker 1: about some of the players leading up to the draft,

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Speaker 1: but it pans out if you go look at history,

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Speaker 1: there's starters all up and down with draft every year.

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Speaker 1: We just failed to identify them. So I think, again,

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Speaker 1: it comes back to doing your homework, being prepared, covering

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Speaker 1: all your bases, listening to your Scott and staff. I

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Speaker 1: actually had a chance to tune. I was watching the

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Speaker 1: Gettleman press conference on giants dot Com and then stumbled

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Speaker 1: across the path to the draft episodes webisodes that they're

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Speaker 1: doing on giants dot Com, and I thought it was

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Speaker 1: really cool just to get the behind the scenes perspective,

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Speaker 1: perspective of Gettleman and and and Chris Petty and some

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Speaker 1: of these scouts on the road behind the scenes and listen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys. If I a Gettleman's

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Speaker 1: at face value and believe what he says, it sounds

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Speaker 1: like they're all in on ELI again. So I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're going on quarterback here in round one. On

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Speaker 1: one thing, though, Rick, you said at the combine, I

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Speaker 1: think you gave us a number. You don't give us

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Speaker 1: a number, but you gave us a fact that there

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Speaker 1: are more fourth, fifth, six, and seventh round players in

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Speaker 1: the NFL then there are combined, then there are earlier

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Speaker 1: rounds in the draft. Is that is that the fact

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Speaker 1: that you quoted us, because that's that was more undrafted

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Speaker 1: players in the league that you can tally up all

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Speaker 1: the Day three picks in the from round four or five, six,

852
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: and seven, you can tally up all those picks. There's

853
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: more undrafted free agents in the league, guys. Okay, So

854
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: so if this draft is so fruitful later on in

855
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: today three. My goodness, that means some of these guys

856
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: are gonna drip into that so called eighth round. This

857
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: ought to be a very interesting undrafted rookie free agent

858
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: class to come late Saturday night. Yeah. Well, listen, it's

859
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: always exciting because this is a big part of your team.

860
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: And you know, those twenty guys you signed in round day,

861
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: as you call it, I mean that's to me, that's

862
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: just as important because you should hit on those early picks.

863
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: To me, where you make your money as the midst

864
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: of late rounds and undrafted free agents. So uh, you know.

865
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: And then you've got guys like Rodney Anderson, the running

866
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: back from Oklahoma whose single season is probably better than

867
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: any running back in this year's draft class, and yet

868
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: no one's gonna probably touch him the day three. If

869
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: you told me five years from now Bryce Love was

870
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: the best running back in this year's draft class, I

871
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: want to be shocked. You're gonna probably go round through

872
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: a Day three, absolutely, Rick. Now, we always put you

873
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: to the test because we know you're good with the

874
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: small school guys in the late round guys. We've talked

875
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: to Robin Dan Shanka today about a lot of the

876
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: Giants options in the first, second, and third round. But

877
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: the Giants have a bunch of Day three picks. I

878
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: mean they have, I'll go through the list right now.

879
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: They pick twice in the fourth round at a hundred

880
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: and eight and a hundred and thirty seconds. They have

881
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: three fifth round picks, a sixth round pick, in two

882
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: seventh round picks. So they have a lot of selections

883
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: on Day three. My guest will move to you some

884
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: of those to move up. They're not gonna use all

885
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: those selections. But the bottom line, know a lot of

886
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: players in Day three. What positions to you once you

887
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: get to the fourth round? Are you still looking at

888
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: a lot of depth where you're gonna be able to

889
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: find guys that you think you can plug in and

890
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: be quality starters in the NFL? Well, like Gentleman said today,

891
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: the wide receivers are thick, aren't they. You know you've

892
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: got guys here, you know a Day three I'm looking

893
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: at hey, Preston Williams. I don't know the whole story

894
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: off the field from Colorado State to transfer out of Tennessee.

895
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: What I do know is his film is as good

896
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: as any wide receiver in this year's draft class. He's

897
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: entirely off some team's boards. But someone's gonna take a

898
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: chance on Preston Williams. Uh, Deonte Johnson at a Toledo

899
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: or that's a guy we're really big here at the

900
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,479
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Five and again go back to the film.

901
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: This guy just flashes all over the place. And you know,

902
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: I'll give one more wide receiver. I don't know if

903
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: he makes it today. Three he's he's kind of sneaking

904
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: up boards. But Miles that Miles Boykin from Notre Dame. Uh,

905
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna need some pass catching targets. To me,

906
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 1: you know, Golden Tate, Sterling Shepherd. It's a nice core,

907
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: but you still need more playmakers there. And you know,

908
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram isn't a guy that you know I'm going

909
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: to write in for a full slate of sixteen games.

910
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: So I think wide receiver is one position you have

911
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: to look. Obviously, offensive line, I think they'll address the

912
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: tackles in the early rounds. Well what about the center position.

913
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: I mean, one of these guys is gonna slide um.

914
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: I like Bradberry from NC State and Jenkins from Mississippi

915
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: State up top McCoy, the junior out of Texas A

916
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 1: and M is getting a lot of love. But maybe

917
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: a guy like Dalton Reisner from Kansas State slides down

918
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: uh to the to the early fourth round. He played

919
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: tackle at Kansas State. He's gonna play inside at the

920
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: next level. Some teams like in that guard, I like

921
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: Thatt Center. I think that could be a guy that

922
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: they're targeting. Look, you know, when Lorenzo Carter is the

923
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: best pass rusher on your team, you need edge rusher.

924
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: They need more than one, and I think they'll they'll

925
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: probably go with one with the first pick, and then

926
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: you know, day three, they're gonna have to take another guy.

927
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: You know, because Christian Miller from Alabama, he don't have

928
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: a lot of snaps now, and but when you watch

929
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: him on film when they used him as a rusher

930
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: off the edge, not everybody views him as an edge rusher,

931
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: but the snaps that he did play getting after the quarterback,

932
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: he showed a lot of potential there. So you know,

933
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 1: that's another guy I would possibly be targeting on Day three.

934
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: And then listen, cornerbacks are going to be in need,

935
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: and that's you know, you heard get him and say

936
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: that's another position that's thick. So I'm looking at a

937
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: guy like Corey Ballantine from Washington if they go small school.

938
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy Moreland from James Madison is a guy that was

939
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: at the Shrine Game just and I think the Senior

940
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: Bowl as well. Just covering anyone and everyone. Uh so listen,

941
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: I could I could go on and on and on.

942
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: We talked about bliss On Austin from Rutgers, who had

943
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: a Day two grade going into the season. Maybe he

944
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 1: gets pushed back to day three because of the injury history.

945
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: You know, Rick, we often talk about you as being

946
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: one of the premier FCS experts in the country. Uh,

947
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: the seer Adder Leaf from Delaware and FCS player who

948
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: most people think is a high second round er. Some

949
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: of even said he could sneak into the top thirty two.

950
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: Who are besides him? Who are in your mind the

951
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: top FCS guys are small school guys that are gonna

952
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: make some waves come come draft weekend. Well, you know,

953
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: I'll give you one guy to keep an eye on

954
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: that I just heard from a very good source, this

955
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: Tarletan State running back Xavier Turner. Uh, there's a big,

956
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: big buzz on this kid as we get closer to

957
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 1: the draft. Where did he go to school? Tarlton? Where

958
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: is that? I didn't even know that existing? Is that?

959
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: Is that? Three? Hey, I'm just telling you what I'm here,

960
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: and I just you know, found this out two days ago. Um,

961
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we even had a rite up on

962
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: him in the draft. Five. I know he's on our board.

963
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: And that's a guy. Now, hey, this happens. Did these

964
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: players come up? You gotta go back circle the film

965
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: did by the way, No, no, no, okay, well John

966
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: has n't in his notes somewhere he picked it up somewhere,

967
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: but go ahead. Um. Also, I think you know we

968
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: spoke about U. C. Davis. I think out at the combine,

969
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: the tall wide receiver. But I like Tenny Hart too.

970
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: Is another guy from Georgia State there, small school player. Um,

971
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: you know Jesper Horstead in our backyard at Princeton a

972
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. You know, I missed the boat

973
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: on Neil Sterling coming out of moment. You know, somebody

974
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: asked me, do you think we'll get drafted? I said,

975
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: I'll never say never, but I don't know, you know,

976
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: And he let's seventh round. So listen, Jesper Horstead, he

977
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: was down there at the Shrine game making a lot

978
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: of plays. Um, he pulled up short with a hammy

979
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: at his pro day, but don't count him out. Um,

980
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, the the tightest Howard kid at offensive tax.

981
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 1: The other guy that you're hearing is gonna go Alabama State.

982
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: A lot of people say Rick that he's got a

983
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: high upside, but he's really raw and and he's gonna

984
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: be a project who's gonna need some work before you

985
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: think about getting him into the lineup. Well, you know

986
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: that he played FCS for a reason. I mean, you know,

987
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: and that's what happens with these guys. Uh. You know

988
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: a lot of times they're late bloomers too. And you know,

989
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: while we're talking offensive tackles, you know, I don't know

990
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: if this has been out there too much on the

991
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: media side, but Jowan Taylor, you know, I know, Uh,

992
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: he's in the mix to be one of the Giants picks.

993
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: There's a back and knee issues on him, So I

994
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: don't know how serious that is. I'm still looking into that. Yeah,

995
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: So you know, listen, Jowan Taylor has been medically flagged

996
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: on some team's board. You know, while we're talking tackles,

997
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: I'll just kind of slide that in there. Um, how

998
00:49:54,840 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: about the way to bury the lead? Rick? What about Charleston,

999
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: you know, West Virginia. John Kaminski shout out to Jim

1000
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: Nagy for calling me out on Twitter because he said,

1001
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: you know that people aren't paying another enough attention to

1002
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: John Kamensky. I said, well, coach, I said, maybe because

1003
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: his senior Bowl was awfully quiet, and he's like, he

1004
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: obviously didn't stay for the game because he was blowing

1005
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: people up. And listen, I like Kaminsky, I mean, listen,

1006
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: the tools are there, the athleticism there. I think he

1007
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: went from being a five ft cent quarterback in high

1008
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 1: school to this, you know, chiseled, you know, physical, six

1009
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 1: ft five sixty pounds, has specimening runs in like four

1010
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: or five range. Um, you know, there's there's uh, there's

1011
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: a kid out of NC State, Darryl Johnson. If you

1012
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: want to talk about Day three edge rushers, this kid

1013
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: was just a dominant force getting after the quarterback. I

1014
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: think he's a guy that's gonna get some Day three consideration.

1015
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: And then you know secondary we talked about guys like

1016
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: Jimmy Morland, who was you know, not invited to the combine.

1017
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but he's definitely gonna get selected.

1018
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: I have a round five grade on him. And then

1019
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: Nate Brooks. He's the North Texas cornerbacks. If you hear

1020
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: a corner selected from North Texas, chime on all. But

1021
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: Nate Brooks is the guy. I think he had seven

1022
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: or eight interceptions, a couple of picks six for returns. Um.

1023
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: I think Nate Brooks is a guy to keep an

1024
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: eye on, and of course, adderly, I wouldn't be surprised

1025
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: if he goes in the first round. He's probably a

1026
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: top fifty lock. Uh. Some people are you know, a

1027
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: little concerned about the hips. Are the hips stiff? But

1028
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: you know some people do like him at cornerback, So

1029
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 1: how much of a concern is that we shall see? Uh?

1030
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: And then one last guy, a hard hitting safety really

1031
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: under the radar, probably an undrafted free agent, but a

1032
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: guy I would have to bring into camp as Marvin

1033
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: Tillman from Western Carolina, really really digging in the crates.

1034
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: But that's what we do, baby, We go deep. One

1035
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: guy I really like Rick, and we'll NFL Draft Bible,

1036
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: NFL Draft scout dot Com. I watched him the other

1037
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: day and I think he's looks like a fantastic player.

1038
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: You don't hear many people talk about him. Gilani Tavai

1039
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: from Hawaii, the linebacker. He's all over the field, He's

1040
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: a high effort guy. Any chance he makes it to

1041
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: the Giants at the end of round three, yeah, I

1042
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: think it's possible. And I think, you know, I think

1043
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: there's a huge drop off with off ball linebackers in

1044
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: this year's draft, Like I think Devon the two Devons

1045
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: are gonna be a lock for round one, and then

1046
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: I hear people that say, hey, Mack Wilson could go

1047
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: in round one or he could go on Day three.

1048
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: So you know, I think there's gonna be a big

1049
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: drop off after those first two guys. I think a

1050
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: Wilson or uh Roshon Joseph About of Florida the two

1051
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: next guys I have and I have to buy at

1052
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: number five with a third round grade, So um, there's

1053
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: a possibility. You know, some of these guys are gonna slide.

1054
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: Your main Pratt from Menessee State, Blake Cashman from Minnesota,

1055
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: t J. Edwards from Wisconsin is a guy. Uh, there's

1056
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: a guy. You know. I was watching the behind on

1057
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: the scenes with the Giants. There's a blue mark, and

1058
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: here's a Giants blue mark. D J. Edwards isn't gonna

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Speaker 1: surprise anybody athletically or physically, but man, that guy is

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Speaker 1: gonna come in and compete for a starting job and

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Speaker 1: he is going to be a starter at the next

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Speaker 1: level and probably a Day three guy. Good stuff, all right,

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Speaker 1: right before we say goodbye, I guess let's just kind

1064
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Speaker 1: of get your rundown of the top of this draft

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Speaker 1: very quickly. If you have to predict two, you thing

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Speaker 1: is gonna go be off the board when the Giants

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Speaker 1: go with six. Who do you think is gonna be

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00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: left remaining for him when they get on the clock. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think right now they're gonna be looking at pass Rusher,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna come down to Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: of Kentucky or Montes Sweat from Mississippi State. I think

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Speaker 1: Sweat will be there again. The irregular heartbeat. Him and

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Speaker 1: Caleb McCarry both flagged at the combine for irregular heartbeat,

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Speaker 1: but not major. Uh, not like Maurice Hearst, who was

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Speaker 1: projected to be a first round pick and winded up

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Speaker 1: going in round five. A few years back. These guys

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Speaker 1: actually participated and worked out at the combine, So that

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Speaker 1: tells me, hey, Mantes, sweat uh not a major concern

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Speaker 1: with the hard issue dominant at the senior Bowlt impressed

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Speaker 1: us at the combine. Just too good to pass up. End.

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Speaker 1: Listen for the record, I like sweat more as a

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Speaker 1: forty three hand in the dirt, traditional defensive end. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, coach Betcher, go make it work, Rick,

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Speaker 1: I got I gotta, I gotta get you to rewind

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Speaker 1: just half a second here. You actually said Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: could fold the Giants at six. Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: If that happens, it's about four fifty mile up to

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Speaker 1: the podium to grab him. I mean, you honestly believe

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Speaker 1: he can get past five. The way I see it

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Speaker 1: right now is Kyler Murray one, Bosa two. I have

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Speaker 1: Quentin Williams three, and then for me at Oliver at

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Speaker 1: number four to the Raiders. And with that being said,

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00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: you know again we we just did on air amount

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00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: before I hopped on with you guys, we had Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen coming off the board. At number five to Tampa Bay.

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00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: But guess what, Tampa Bay could also consider Devin White

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00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: there and if they do, then hey, they might have

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00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: their choice between Josh Allen and Montes Sweat. Would be crazy.

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Speaker 1: And what are the odds that an offensive tackle goes

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Speaker 1: in the top five and he shot at all? I

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00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,479
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people going into the combine thought

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Speaker 1: of a million bucks about Jonah Williams. Some mothers thought

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00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: a lot about Taylor. But now you're telling me there's

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00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: a medical on him. Could Jonah Williams possibly still sneak

1105
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: up there or is that not not in the cards?

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00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: I think Jonah Williams or Andre Dillard could sneak into

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00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: the top ten. And you know, Buffalo, I think is

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00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: picking at number nine might be a candidates. But it's

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00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: gonna be tough, Okay, it's gonna be really tough with

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Speaker 1: these offensive tackles. Rick Final question sixteen and thirty seven.

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00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: Just give me either one player or a group of

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00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: players you think could be on the board that would

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00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: match Giants need with value at those spots. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan, but I'd have to consider

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00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 1: dk Metcalf there. Uh Evan Bush would be a consideration.

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00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: And I'll give you one other guy, maybe a the

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00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: one guy we talked about potentially slipping in this year's

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00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: first round as greedy Williams and boys, he's there at seventeen.

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00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: That would be hard to refuse. Yeah, and then how

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Speaker 1: about thirty seven? Real quick, I know it's tough. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: of course thirty seven. Hey, my and my dreams if

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00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm the giant guy like Chris Lindstrom from Boston College.

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Speaker 1: So you guys know, I love um. You know, maybe

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00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: maybe a rock your sin from Temple slides down there.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, if you don't go wide receiver

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00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 1: and round one, well then hey, maybe you're looking at

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Speaker 1: a Hakeem Butler or a Nikkil Harry there at number

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Speaker 1: thirty six. Rick, awesome stuff is always my friend. Enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the chaos of next week and we'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: down the run right now. Absolutely appreciate you, guys, Rick,

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Speaker 1: Sara Tella does a great job NFL Draft scout dot com,

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00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: NFL Draft Bible as well. Thank you to our two

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Speaker 1: with their guests, Rob rang who works with Rick, and

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Speaker 1: then Dan Shock from arrol dot com. Paul, have a

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Speaker 1: great weekend. You're too, John. Happy holidays and folks, get

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Speaker 1: ready because it's just around the corner. We're back with

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Speaker 1: you on Monday. Hopefully we'll have some type of clearance

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Speaker 1: on exactly what's happening at first. Overall that I'll give

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Speaker 1: us an idea of what's gonna happen with the rest

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Speaker 1: of the road. Still juggling it all a little bit, folks,

1141
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Speaker 1: and we'll figure out what happens for Paula Tino. I'm

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Speaker 1: John Schmilk. We'll see on Monday. It's all presented by

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Speaker 1: cores Light. Download the Coors Light Awards apt to an

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1145
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: holidays to do that, celebrate, and we'll see on Monday.

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Speaker 1: See you later.