Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arms Strong
Speaker 1: and and he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 2: To have a democracy, a peacan of hope for the
Speaker 2: world to now be turned into one of the you know,
Speaker 2: one of the worst countries. Where where where the military
Speaker 2: are in our streets without any regard for people's constitutional rights,
Speaker 2: while our president is spending millions of dollars prompting himself
Speaker 2: up like a failed dictator with a military parade.
Speaker 3: Remember that's our soldiers, that's you know, this is not
Speaker 3: an occupying force. You know, this is a two hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty anniversary for the army. Why I'm not sure
Speaker 3: why it's outrageous to have a parade to celebrate the army.
Speaker 3: It's celebrating you know, a quarter of a millennia about
Speaker 3: the American Army. It's like, I don't understand why that's controversial.
Speaker 4: Two Democrats there, so I thought that was interesting. That's
Speaker 4: Representative villan Omar of Minnesota who hates this country saying
Speaker 4: Trump was a failed dictator with his military parade, spending
Speaker 4: money that we don't have, blah blah, blah, and that Senator.
Speaker 1: Isn't America hitting is Lomist?
Speaker 4: Yes, correct, Senator Fetterman, also a Democrat, saying what's wrong?
Speaker 4: It's two hudred and fiftieth birthday of our great army,
Speaker 4: and we're honoring that. I don't understand the downside there.
Speaker 4: So there you go, two Democrats.
Speaker 5: You hear the other stuff Fetterman was saying about the
Speaker 5: Israel Iran situation. He said Israel should use it successful
Speaker 5: campaign against Hesbolah in Lemanon, which culminated with the assassination
Speaker 5: of its leader is On Israla, as a model for
Speaker 5: how to deal with Iran. Yeah, just like Israela, he said,
Speaker 5: when asked whether the Jewish state should target Kameani. In fact,
Speaker 5: it should have been when Israel began to dismantle Iran.
Speaker 5: Israel's fully earned the right to do whatever to finish
Speaker 5: off Iran, he said. Consider what Israel has accomplished, crushed Mos,
Speaker 5: same with the Hoothi's newdart has lost Siria fl All.
Speaker 5: His so called experts are absolutely wrong. Iran turned out
Speaker 5: to be the ultimate paper tiger and it needs.
Speaker 1: To be put away.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Fetterman is pro regime change as a Democratic senator.
Speaker 4: Then you got Ran Paul, a Republican who said on
Speaker 4: Meet the Press over the weekend that a preemptive war
Speaker 4: is not justified. This is an unjustified war as a
Speaker 4: preventive or preemptive war, which I think it's not. You
Speaker 4: have to let your enemy get the worst weapon in
Speaker 4: the world before you can go to war with them. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think rand is out of his mind.
Speaker 5: But I absolutely love the dissent we have in this country,
Speaker 5: the fact that people can speak out and ilan Omar
Speaker 5: can pitch here America hating Islamism and I can call
Speaker 5: her out for it.
Speaker 1: Here's something silly.
Speaker 4: So Joe was bringing us some of the facts about
Speaker 4: this giant bomb we're probably going to drop on a
Speaker 4: four wido got to.
Speaker 1: Drop a couple of them. Fascinating.
Speaker 5: Can borrow two hundred yards into solid rock before it explodes.
Speaker 4: It weighs thirty thousand pounds, so chat GTT helpfully gave
Speaker 4: us some other things that were weigh thirty thousand pounds,
Speaker 4: so you can try.
Speaker 1: To imagine it.
Speaker 4: A school bus standard full sized school bus weighs thirty
Speaker 4: thousand pounds fully loaded U haul truck ten mid sized
Speaker 4: cars or three African elegant elephants. Large male African elephant
Speaker 4: weighs about ten thousands, so three full size elephants.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Did that make it easier for me to picture the
Speaker 4: way to the bomb or I don't have that much concept.
Speaker 4: I've never tried to lift an elephant.
Speaker 5: Now I'm thinking about elephants. That's the only thing that
Speaker 5: did for me. Really, I don't know if that was
Speaker 5: easy jumbo easy. We're not going to hurle you at Florid.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm just trying to lift you to get a
Speaker 1: sense of how heavy you are. Hole still would. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's really an amazing weapon. The It's got more
Speaker 5: nicknames than puff Daddy, the GBU fifty seven, also called
Speaker 5: the Massive Ordnance Penetrator, also known as the Mother of
Speaker 5: All Bombs, or the MOAB, also known as the bunker Buster.
Speaker 1: It's all the same bomb we're talking about.
Speaker 4: It's not a smart bomb, though, is it. It's just
Speaker 4: like gravity, you let go when gravity takes it down.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 5: No, it's super super targetable. Oh it is, OK, I
Speaker 5: didn't know scroll down. I believe it's dropped. I don't
Speaker 5: know that maybe it is. You know, I don't I
Speaker 5: don't know. I know it can be very very accurate.
Speaker 5: The specific I'll have to dig for the specifical specific technology.
Speaker 4: Later this hour, we're going to talk to Mike Lyons
Speaker 4: and the question. I mean, we had him on Monday,
Speaker 4: but there are so many things that have happened. I
Speaker 4: want to know the possible downside. I mean, if things
Speaker 4: went really wrong, what would it look like? Because I'm
Speaker 4: having trouble picturing that, but I didn't really picture what
Speaker 4: was going to happen in Iraq either. Who knew you
Speaker 4: were going to end up with ISIS and an insurgency
Speaker 4: and everything falling apart.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, which is why I'm in favor of making
Speaker 5: outreach and I'm sure this is happening right now to
Speaker 5: some of the key generals who are not with Allah
Speaker 5: at this point and saying, hey, it's time for the
Speaker 5: molas to go. You're practical people, you're just greed heads.
Speaker 5: We can deal with you. Let's talk about the future.
Speaker 4: Well, the Sun of the Shaw of Iran, the guy
Speaker 4: that was in charge before the Muslim nut jobs took over,
Speaker 4: he put out a big statement yesterday saying now is
Speaker 4: the time for everyone to rise up against the regime
Speaker 4: and take it back, and I don't off. The unsaid
Speaker 4: part of that is and put me in charge. I
Speaker 4: don't know, because we got a text earlier saying, unlike
Speaker 4: a RAQ where there was no plan for who would
Speaker 4: be in charge, the Shaw's Sun is gonna take over.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, that's fine.
Speaker 4: I don't know who would declare that, but there might
Speaker 4: be some military generals to say, no, he ain't, I'm
Speaker 4: going to And then a different military general says you
Speaker 4: think you are no, No, no, I am, and then
Speaker 4: they go to war and things get very ugly, as
Speaker 4: has happened throughout the history of the world.
Speaker 5: And then you've got three different guys who say I'm
Speaker 5: the most Islamic of all of you people. I'm more
Speaker 5: faithful and in adamant and whatever the I can't remember,
Speaker 5: as I've seen your moment.
Speaker 1: Anyway, they're devout.
Speaker 5: I'm more devout than anybody, so I deserve to be
Speaker 5: at And it's a blood path for decades.
Speaker 1: It could happen.
Speaker 5: Sure who is the occupying force that deals with that.
Speaker 5: If it's Aron itself, there'll be plenty of exporting of horror,
Speaker 5: but that'll be mostly their problem. It's got to be internal.
Speaker 5: Who is it's it's a nation of ninety million people.
Speaker 5: It's a big country, Yeah it is. You can't occupy it.
Speaker 5: We played John Fetterman a little bit ago, reminded me
Speaker 5: of this. So New York's got a mayoral election going
Speaker 5: on in which the which case, the best choice for
Speaker 5: anybody who leans right.
Speaker 1: Is freaking Cuomo. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 5: Well, i'd say, does anybody who doesn't lean all the
Speaker 5: way left.
Speaker 4: Because the opponents are various shades of one hundred percent
Speaker 4: communists or Marxists. Cuomo, the lying, killing old people, destroying evidence,
Speaker 4: will grab your daughter if he gets the chance. Scumbag
Speaker 4: is going to be the mayor of New York and
Speaker 4: it's the best choice.
Speaker 1: Excelsior.
Speaker 4: Here's the guy in second place currently, Oran Mam Danny,
Speaker 4: who's running. And the reason I thought of Fetterman is
Speaker 4: he's getting blasted by a lot of people. He's hardly
Speaker 4: ever had a job in his life. He's about fifty.
Speaker 4: He's hardly ever had a job in his life, with
Speaker 4: just three years in the workforce, including his rap career
Speaker 4: which he had for a while and some gigy had
Speaker 4: for his mom.
Speaker 1: His mom had him doing something and he around Trustafarian
Speaker 1: yeah sort of thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's no professional experience, like at all and has
Speaker 4: never really done anything.
Speaker 1: But that was our knock on fetterman.
Speaker 4: He had been laying around on his mom's couch and
Speaker 4: do nothing, and he's fantastic and like seems like a
Speaker 4: really smart guy with good judgment to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah since the stroke.
Speaker 5: Weirdly enough, Yeah, this this Trustafarian guy in New York
Speaker 5: is he is just a treat I mean there is
Speaker 5: no you know, communist Marxist program so discredited that he
Speaker 5: can't endorse it, rent control and just he's in favor
Speaker 5: of everything that's been a miserable failure every time it's
Speaker 5: been tried.
Speaker 1: It's a measure of something.
Speaker 5: And I'm sure there are brilliant treatises and books written
Speaker 5: on this. But the fact that Brandon Johnson should be
Speaker 5: the mayor of Chicago, I mean he is a hack
Speaker 5: and a half wit. Now you might have this communist
Speaker 5: in charge of New York. Don't get me started on
Speaker 5: the West coast cities which went so far.
Speaker 1: Down the road.
Speaker 5: Some of them are actually lurching back right word San
Speaker 5: Francisco tip of the gap. There's something very very weird
Speaker 5: going on politically. I mean, because New York. I'm familiar
Speaker 5: with the history of New York mayors. I mean going
Speaker 5: way way back, you know, Mayor Koch and Dinkins and
Speaker 5: cast of characters Rudy Giuliani. Much like cal Unicornia. It
Speaker 5: used to be a city that leaned one way, but
Speaker 5: would go back and forest, and then it was pretty
Speaker 5: sane in a lot of ways. Now it's just off
Speaker 5: the rails.
Speaker 1: And I love New York and I love you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't sound like a nut at all. Did
Speaker 4: you see the trailer is out? I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 4: Before we take a break, did you see that there's
Speaker 4: a new Bruce Springsteen bio pick out ough Man speaking
Speaker 4: of never had a job. He never had a job,
Speaker 4: even though he came up as a representing the working class,
Speaker 4: working class hero dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was kind of cosplaying. He came from that.
Speaker 4: He did come from that. He was surrounded by that,
Speaker 4: but he wasn't that. He was definitely cosplaying.
Speaker 5: And if he hadn't ruined at all by going like
Speaker 5: uber limousine liberal, I would be interested in that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm just wondering how accurate it'll be to
Speaker 4: his story. And I'd listened to a lot of music
Speaker 4: over the weekend as I'd dropped my son off in
Speaker 4: LA and then had to drive back, so a lot
Speaker 4: of drive, and I went through a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: Bruce Springsteen stuff in my mini hour drive, and it
Speaker 4: was almost hard to enjoy. My dislike for him is
Speaker 4: so high at this point. Yeah, His his his like
Speaker 4: condescending certainty is just so thick. It's just ah and
Speaker 4: the fact that so much of it is now that
Speaker 4: I know, he's such a costplaying phony on a lot
Speaker 4: of this stuff, even you know you don't. I'm trying
Speaker 4: to think of an example. There are a lot of
Speaker 4: writers who wrote things that they didn't personally do themselves.
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean the writing's not good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And there's absolutely value to art that represents a
Speaker 5: certain you know, group of people in their lives and
Speaker 5: their values and that sort of thing, and sometimes the
Speaker 5: artist is not of them. But I think it's hard
Speaker 5: to take now that he's become what he's become. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you can't. You can't give him the benefit of the
Speaker 5: doubt anymore because of that smug, condescending certainty about everything. Hey, Bruce,
Speaker 5: I'm not a monster. I'm a pretty reasonable guy and
Speaker 5: you know medium bright. You and I disagree completely. Doesn't
Speaker 5: that interest you at all? Or you just assume that
Speaker 5: I'm some sort of monster with evil intentions? Right exactly six'
Speaker 5: three rolling for The Supreme court in the direction you
Speaker 5: want if you think the transgender thing has gone off the.
Speaker 5: Rails Something robert said in his majority opinion is getting
Speaker 5: attention straight up, fire as some people call. It maybe
Speaker 5: maybe we can get to, that among other things on
Speaker 5: the way some.
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Speaker 1: Brigger that's, nice, RIGHT i like? That?
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh hang, On i'm hearing that another restaurant chain
Speaker 6: just made an ad about their workers.
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Speaker 4: Pipe can't making, waffles, Jackass i'm making waffle.
Speaker 7: House get your raby.
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Speaker 1: Waffles.
Speaker 4: Wow, Oh so we're driving To Los angeles and we're
Speaker 4: at the in and out right before you get to
Speaker 4: The grapevine And, saturday eleven o'clock in the, morning and
Speaker 4: it's so. CROWDED i, mean it was just a mad
Speaker 4: house the drive through and we went in and everything like,
Speaker 4: that And i'm looking over there's A Burger, king there's
Speaker 4: a McDonald's, there and there's.
Speaker 1: Like hardly anybody.
Speaker 4: There SO i JUST i don't understand why it's not
Speaker 4: profitable to pay people more and have better customer, service
Speaker 4: Because i'm making the assumption that most of it is
Speaker 4: people like the customer, service and maybe it's mostly just
Speaker 4: because people like The burger's.
Speaker 1: Better, WELL i don't, know but in and out it's
Speaker 1: always completely.
Speaker 4: Packed same With chick Fil, a same with this grocery
Speaker 4: store chain locally The. Nugget But i've known other grocery
Speaker 4: store chains where they pay people better and have better
Speaker 4: employees and they're always.
Speaker 1: Packed, yeah it JUST i.
Speaker 4: Understand it must must pencil out to have you see,
Speaker 4: employees you pay the, minimum and everybody hates.
Speaker 5: IT i mean you come out ahead because. Whatever, yeah
Speaker 5: they're they're kind of different. Markets they're different sub, markets
Speaker 5: and you target.
Speaker 1: One or the.
Speaker 5: Other the people running McDonald's aren't trying to quote Unquote
Speaker 5: pete with the in and out burger exactly a different price,
Speaker 5: point different to.
Speaker 1: Clientele, YEAH i JUST i would.
Speaker 4: Think being super busy would be worth paying people. More
Speaker 4: but it must not pencil, out LIKE i.
Speaker 5: Said, yeah SO i wanted to get to this and
Speaker 5: changing plans real quickly because earlier we'd shared with. You for,
Speaker 5: instance The New York Times Supreme court Upholds tennessee ban
Speaker 5: on transgender, care setback for transgender, rights part of The
Speaker 5: trump administration's fierce assaults on transgender. Rights here's an alternate
Speaker 5: way to put. It this is The National. Review Supreme
Speaker 5: court Upholds tennessee ban on transgender medical procedures for. Miners
Speaker 5: The Supreme court upheld the state Of tennessee's ban on
Speaker 5: irreversible transgender procedures for, miners a major victory for parental
Speaker 5: rights advocates and those seeking to protect distressed children from harmful.
Speaker 1: Operations, amen.
Speaker 4: Hallelujah, yeah AND i don't think that's the least bit
Speaker 4: on or, prejudicial even in the way that's.
Speaker 5: Written, No, no that is factually, correct using you, know
Speaker 5: gender affirming, care which is a bizarre phrase designed purely
Speaker 5: to beg the question and win the.
Speaker 1: Argument that ought that is that ought to be in quotes.
Speaker 4: Well and then having in the headline almost every Headline
Speaker 4: i've seen a. Setback how do you have a setback
Speaker 4: for something a majority of people don't.
Speaker 1: Like it's a little set forward.
Speaker 5: For believers in radical gender theory and the idea of
Speaker 5: sexualizing and mutilating. Children it is a setback for, that,
Speaker 5: sure thank, God but you don't present it the way
Speaker 5: most of your readers.
Speaker 1: Are going to receive. It most of your readers think.
Speaker 5: Good so it's not a, setback that is absolutely you.
Speaker 5: Know another example of how perverse and bubbled the media
Speaker 5: is they have no.
Speaker 1: Idea so.
Speaker 4: The war within The Republican, party whether or not we
Speaker 4: should get more heavily involved in the war With. Iran
Speaker 4: those of you who think it's a horrible, Idea i'm
Speaker 4: going to Ask Mike lyons what could go? Wrong what
Speaker 4: would going wrong look? Like among other things coming.
Speaker 1: Up armstrong And Getty.
Speaker 4: Tucker carlson is sort of the leading voice on we
Speaker 4: shouldn't get involved in these forever wars as he calls,
Speaker 4: them and it's going to destroy the. Country he actually
Speaker 4: said With Steve bannon the other day that this will
Speaker 4: Destroy trump's, president could destroy The American empire if we
Speaker 4: get involved in Attacking. Iran he Had Senator Ted cruz
Speaker 4: on yesterday for a long episode which doesn't come out till,
Speaker 4: today but this is the clip they released from That Ted,
Speaker 4: cruz who is in favor of getting involved in Attacking.
Speaker 8: Iran how many people living? Around by the, WAY i
Speaker 8: don't know the population at. All, NO i don't know the.
Speaker 8: Population you don't know the population of the country you
Speaker 8: seek to. Topple how many people living? Around nine eighty two? Million, okay,
Speaker 8: go how could you not know?
Speaker 1: THAT i don't sit around memorizing population.
Speaker 8: Tables, well it's kind of relevant because you're calling for
Speaker 8: the overthrow of the. Government why is it relevant whether
Speaker 8: it's will because ninety million or eighty million or a hundred.
Speaker 8: Million why because if you don't know anything about the,
Speaker 8: COUNTRY i didn't SAY i don't know anything About, okay
Speaker 8: what's the ethnic mix of Iron.
Speaker 1: They Are persians and well presumin at Lys. Shia, okay
Speaker 1: you don't know anything About.
Speaker 8: Iran so, OKAY i am not The Tucker carlson bird On.
Speaker 8: Iran you're a center who's calling the one government about the. Country,
Speaker 8: no you don't know anything about the. Country so uh
Speaker 8: as jazzy little clip that they're. RELEASED i look forward
Speaker 8: to more of that.
Speaker 4: Conversation but What i've been wondering, about you, KNOW i
Speaker 4: didn't anticipate what was going to happen In iraq after we.
Speaker 4: Invaded what would it look like if things went wrong.
Speaker 8: With?
Speaker 4: Iran we dropped the bunker, busters and then what's the
Speaker 4: worst case?
Speaker 1: SCENARIO i don't even know what's the.
Speaker 5: Downside let's talk to military Analyst Mike, lyons who served
Speaker 5: The United states military and a variety of capacities throughout his,
Speaker 5: career INCLUDING. Nato, mike, welcome how are you.
Speaker 7: Good to be?
Speaker 4: Back so if things went, off the rails went the wrong.
Speaker 4: Direction you, know at least the dogs of warring ever
Speaker 4: know what's going to. Happen what would that look?
Speaker 7: Like so first of, all this is not a rock
Speaker 7: of two thousand and. Three nothing is similar to that at.
Speaker 7: All if we get involved, militarily we're going to thread
Speaker 7: this very thin needle when it comes to fourdoh and the,
Speaker 7: facility and the fact that we designed a weapon system
Speaker 7: just to do exactly, that go after and destroy this,
Speaker 7: facility of which is not guaranteed it would. Happen, either
Speaker 7: it's well, reinforced well, underground concrete, bunkers ninety degree. Angles
Speaker 7: we're not sure we can get a straight target add to,
Speaker 7: it so multiple passes could take, Place lots of things
Speaker 7: can go. Wrong not a guarantee that we would do,
Speaker 7: anything but that's the only thing we would.
Speaker 2: Do.
Speaker 7: Now we're not going to get involved with regime. Change
Speaker 7: we're not Targeting. Komanie we're not going to do. That
Speaker 7: they're going to leave that to The israelis or. Whatsoever
Speaker 7: SO i don't believe the coal and pale you break,
Speaker 7: it you buy it rule applies. HERE i think we're
Speaker 7: just going to Help israel if they ask for this
Speaker 7: one very specific, mission BUT i do think you'll have
Speaker 7: to put boots on the ground. There you're going to
Speaker 7: have to send in there to make. Sure oh, yeah,
Speaker 7: Yeah i'm not talking about the First Armber, division But
Speaker 7: I'm jaysak Special forces because we have In syria right.
Speaker 7: Now you're going to have to put some eyes on
Speaker 7: the ground to make sure that that facility has actually been.
Speaker 7: Destroyed and again not large, formations but it's likely what
Speaker 7: that's what was going to have to happen as.
Speaker 1: Well you don't think The israelis could handle.
Speaker 7: That they're probably. Could i'm sure we're going to walk
Speaker 7: to if we drop the if we drop, it we're
Speaker 7: going to want to go see. OURSELVES i guarantee. IT
Speaker 7: jaysk is not going to leave the room unless they
Speaker 7: have that authorization to go as. Well SO i think
Speaker 7: that they could handle. It they're handling the whole lot right.
Speaker 7: Now but they're running up. Sprint their campaign has been a,
Speaker 7: sprint and they will run out of, ammunition they'll run
Speaker 7: out of. Capability it'll culminate here in a few, weeks
Speaker 7: AND i think you, know PEOPLE i talked to say
Speaker 7: they think that they could get this over with by
Speaker 7: the end of next. Week what does that, Mean, well
Speaker 7: it means that they think they've destroyed all The uranian nuclear,
Speaker 7: capability AND i think it Includes, florida which means we
Speaker 7: have gotten, involved and from their, perspective they want regime,
Speaker 7: change so they're going to own that should and when that.
Speaker 7: Come i'd like to think that we're working diplomatically behind
Speaker 7: the scenes right, now getting other countries involved like we
Speaker 7: did During Desert storm again where it was. Effective BUT
Speaker 7: i just don't. Know we'll see what. Happens it's a great.
Speaker 7: Opportunity it's a tremendous opportunity to The United states to
Speaker 7: get The Middle east fixed once and for all for
Speaker 7: the next.
Speaker 4: Century, WELL i, Agree but to get back to the
Speaker 4: worst case, scenario since that's the big argument within The
Speaker 4: Republican party right, now there is some reporting yesterday That
Speaker 4: iran is positioning missile launchers or whatever to try to
Speaker 4: attack specifically our base In. Iraq If iran does do,
Speaker 4: that do we get drug into this on a bigger?
Speaker 1: LEVEL i still think.
Speaker 7: NO i think we respond maybe a little bit, disproportionately let's,
Speaker 7: Say but it doesn't mean we're going to go after
Speaker 7: The Supreme. Leader we're going to go after their military,
Speaker 7: capability AND i don't think that's the. CASE i think
Speaker 7: it's a lot of. BLUSTER i think they're out they
Speaker 7: have planes that don't. Fly if we wanted to put
Speaker 7: The iranian navy at the bottom of The Persian, gulf
Speaker 7: it would take probably thirty minutes if they're even out there.
Speaker 7: Anyway so, again this is a lot of bluster that's
Speaker 7: taking place of capacity.
Speaker 1: That they don't.
Speaker 7: Have THAT i think that doesn't drag us. In this
Speaker 7: is not two thousand and. Three it's completely. Different the
Speaker 7: targets are completely. Different you, know in two thousand and
Speaker 7: three we are thrown stood. On we get regime, change,
Speaker 7: yeah no. Question we didn't think About phase, five now?
Speaker 7: What and that got us into the forever.
Speaker 1: War.
Speaker 7: Now i'm not telling you that it's going to be
Speaker 7: easy here because the ethnic mix In iran is. Challenging
Speaker 7: As tucker was trying to Trap Center recruise into, saying
Speaker 7: it's Fundamentally, persian though it's fundamentally Non arab, actually and
Speaker 7: that's WHERE i believe where it will go should that.
Speaker 1: Happen if you were.
Speaker 5: To take a wild guess WHAT i know you, said
Speaker 5: we're not specifically looking for regime.
Speaker 1: CHANGE i wonder if The israelis would.
Speaker 5: Agree but if indeed the leadership structure gets shaken up and,
Speaker 5: iron what do you anticipate what happened? Next military dictatorship
Speaker 5: for till further?
Speaker 7: Notice, Right i'm not sure where the cuts force and
Speaker 7: where The republican guard units. Are where's the army in
Speaker 7: this will. Fight they're not, anywhere you, know they're not
Speaker 7: in the. Streets we don't there's no, pictures there's nothing going.
Speaker 7: On So i'd like to think that they would have
Speaker 7: the first shot at, THIS i, believe and THEN i
Speaker 7: and then based on what civilians control, there which is
Speaker 7: really not a. Lot it's very dispersed of where the situation.
Speaker 7: Is it does make a difference who gets control of
Speaker 7: the military. Equipment and they do have a large army
Speaker 7: because they you, know but again that army can't Invade
Speaker 7: israel anytime. Soon and the fact that they've used these
Speaker 7: proxies who are also, invisible, right there's no allies on
Speaker 7: the side of the Your indians right. Now so but,
Speaker 7: again they do have military equipment inside the. Country so
Speaker 7: whoever is organizing the resistance and Perhaps mesade is working
Speaker 7: that inside. Already they're going to know that they're going
Speaker 7: to get a hold of that military. Equipment that's going
Speaker 7: to really matter once that leader. Topples.
Speaker 4: WELL i don't know if you heard what The israeli
Speaker 4: ambassador of The United states said On, monday but in
Speaker 4: an interview he, said wait Till thursday Or. Friday we've
Speaker 4: got some tricks up our sleeve that are going to
Speaker 4: make the pager attack On hesbol pale in, comparison that's
Speaker 4: more or less what he's.
Speaker 1: Saying holy.
Speaker 7: Crap, Yeah israel is so, creative, right AND i think.
Speaker 7: So for, EXAMPLE i was just talking about the military.
Speaker 7: Equipment they could have some kind of cyber attack that
Speaker 7: renders all of that equipment. UNUSABLE i mean they, think
Speaker 7: well with the, horizon they are so creative and they
Speaker 7: figure SO i have to think, that you, know they're
Speaker 7: ahead of every enemy they've ever, faced right has blow
Speaker 7: with the pagers getting blown up in your pants and
Speaker 7: and and every and every step of the. Way SO
Speaker 7: i have to think that they have laid the groundwork
Speaker 7: for knowing full well that that military equipment threatens any
Speaker 7: kind of revolution that takes, place and it's probably. Cyber
Speaker 7: it's probably something that's going to render that equipment just
Speaker 7: a bunch of pillboxes that won't be able to be
Speaker 7: used wow them in the. Streets, Right, yeah that.
Speaker 4: Would be something to see in a warning for us
Speaker 4: about What china could do to us.
Speaker 1: Someday oh, goodness, yeah.
Speaker 7: No, question every day we learn About china, drones we're
Speaker 7: still just scratched the surface on creativity when it comes to.
Speaker 7: Drones but we're not EVEN i hope we're thinking about.
Speaker 5: It, So, mike we ought to have an extended chat
Speaker 5: at some point About america's vulnerabilities in that, way BECAUSE
Speaker 5: i don't think we spend nearly enough time talking about.
Speaker 1: It but we'll table that for the.
Speaker 5: Moment tell us what you know about the massive ordnance,
Speaker 5: penetrator THE gbu fifty seven that they're thinking of using
Speaker 5: against the fourd oh.
Speaker 7: Site, Right, so that was a specific weapon designed to
Speaker 7: penetrate deep. Bunkers the original it's the original one was
Speaker 7: a twenty, eight THE gbu twenty, eight and that was
Speaker 7: back in The Persian Gulf war to get The snam's
Speaker 7: bunker busters back. Then but they, knew As iran learns
Speaker 7: From israel attacking the nuclear facilities that they had to bury.
Speaker 1: It and What North.
Speaker 7: Korea does this is Also North korea has the same.
Speaker 7: Second in, Fact North korea helped The iranians build. It
Speaker 7: but this one penetrates two hundred and fifty, feet goes
Speaker 7: well into it, now and it drives through the. Ground
Speaker 7: that's the difference between THE moap right and THE. Moab
Speaker 7: THE moab is the massive ordinance air. Burst. Right the
Speaker 7: air burst is a different kind of weapons. System it's
Speaker 7: the upper conventional limits of conventional. Warfare, right it's not
Speaker 7: doesn't penetrate the, ground that creates over, pressurization destroys everything
Speaker 7: in a wide area. Space this bunker buster goes deep
Speaker 7: into the ground on, purpose deep into the ground and
Speaker 7: blows the. Bear, however the way that this bunker is
Speaker 7: designed with right. Angles we all saw a top, gun,
Speaker 7: right we all think that this is going to be
Speaker 7: this target that they're going to double tap once in
Speaker 7: double tap. Twice it's just not going to work that.
Speaker 7: Way they're going to have to hit multiple different areas
Speaker 7: to try to funnel in to get all the fincher
Speaker 7: fuses that exist in this very extensive.
Speaker 1: Plant by the, way before we let you.
Speaker 4: Go Wall street journals reporting today that Are israel's running
Speaker 4: out of some of their equipment they're using to shoot
Speaker 4: down missiles and.
Speaker 7: Everything likely the arrows And david, slags those are the
Speaker 7: ones and the sad those are the ones that are
Speaker 7: protecting them against The iranian. Missiles if Not Iron. Dome
Speaker 7: Iron dome was purely rockets and has blong kind of
Speaker 7: close in, battle AND i know the heads up came.
Speaker 7: Before we're going to try to resupply them as much
Speaker 7: as you, can which is WHY i think you've seen
Speaker 7: The navy move. In The navy has interceptors and can
Speaker 7: go after some of those cruise. Missiles the thing is
Speaker 7: The iranians are just shooting at targets that they can't.
Speaker 7: Aim if they can't, hit they don't even know what they're,
Speaker 7: hitting if they're just terror weapons at this.
Speaker 5: Point, hey a follow up question on THE gbu fifty,
Speaker 5: seven the bunker.
Speaker 1: Poster how does it do what it?
Speaker 5: Does how does it dig two hundred and fifty feet
Speaker 5: through solid rock before it? Explodes is that just weight
Speaker 5: and shape and? Trajectory how does it do?
Speaker 7: That, yeah it's the law. Physics it weighs thirty thousand.
Speaker 7: POUNDS i mean it just gets into the. Ground it's rocket,
Speaker 7: assisted got, fins it's just that level of velocity that's
Speaker 7: that's in on it that allows it to do.
Speaker 1: It so.
Speaker 7: You, know it's never used and used in combat, before
Speaker 7: so we really don't know If i'll go two hundred
Speaker 7: and fifty fet orwo hundred, feet but it's designed to
Speaker 7: go into the. Ground and when you drop it from
Speaker 7: A b, two which is the only aircraft that can deliver,
Speaker 7: it which is the. Issue SEE i see one. THIRTY
Speaker 7: i see one. Thirty that's a prop driven slow and
Speaker 7: low aircraft delivered the moab because the moab doesn't you,
Speaker 7: know have the same requirement to be as high THAT
Speaker 7: b two has got to get very high in the
Speaker 7: altitude drove it from a very long. Space let Let
Speaker 7: Sir Isaac newton take a hold of it and drive
Speaker 7: that bomb right into the.
Speaker 1: Ground and how accurate is?
Speaker 7: It, well very accurate because it's gpu. GUIDED i, mean
Speaker 7: it's got fins to. It but but it probably a
Speaker 7: good situation where, again not like top Of maverick where
Speaker 7: you got to hit the. Grills you, know if it gets,
Speaker 7: close it's going to Be, Okay i'm sure that they
Speaker 7: have the weak spots in where they believe that that
Speaker 7: that that plant is and WHERE foto is and they
Speaker 7: know exhaust exhaust pipes for, example and areas like. That
Speaker 7: but but, again, right angles in different ways that the
Speaker 7: that the bunker has been designed still are going to
Speaker 7: make it difficult to just think we're going to get
Speaker 7: it in one. Pass it's going to take multiple multiple
Speaker 7: passes to take that.
Speaker 5: Down military Analyst Mike, Clients great, Stuff, Mike we truly
Speaker 5: do appreciate.
Speaker 7: It, thanks, right, guys thanks for having.
Speaker 4: Us, yeah that was really, good so. Informative, yeah, wow,
Speaker 4: yeah no, Kidding. Wow, well that that's cyber. Stuff you're
Speaker 4: talking about Both.
Speaker 5: Israel's capabilities and what might be happening in the next
Speaker 5: forty eight hours and our vulnerabilities To china's decades long
Speaker 5: efforts to infiltrate THE us in every conceivable way it.
Speaker 1: Can, man that's that's some worrisome.
Speaker 4: Stuff maybe the best thing that's ever happened TO us
Speaker 4: Is ukraine And russia And israel And hamas And, iran
Speaker 4: and that we get to see the latest technologies used
Speaker 4: and wake us up to them that we wouldn't Have,
Speaker 4: yeah costly, lessons but, YEAH i see your.
Speaker 1: Point we got more in the ways to.
Speaker 4: Hear you're gonna have to tell me on the, Air,
Speaker 4: michael what's the problem is the computer going?
Speaker 8: Down?
Speaker 5: Yeah having a computer?
Speaker 1: Issue god dang, it that's The chinese cyber attack we've
Speaker 1: just warned you about in the last. Segment probably, Is probably.
Speaker 1: Is we have our best people on. It we got it.
Speaker 4: Back actually do have our best people on it because
Speaker 4: there are not a lot of people. Around this is
Speaker 4: the rest of that clip That tucker put out about
Speaker 4: his interview With Ted cruz as a teas TO i
Speaker 4: assume he's gonna unleash the whole interview.
Speaker 1: Today you're the one who claims they're not trying to
Speaker 1: Murder Donald. Trump i'm not saying. That who can't figure
Speaker 1: out to say killed general?
Speaker 8: Soon you believe they're trying to Murder, Trump, yes because
Speaker 8: you're not calling for military strikes against them in. Retaliation
Speaker 8: and if you really believe that carrying out military. Strikes
Speaker 8: today you Said israel was right with our. Help i've
Speaker 8: said We israel is leading, them but we're supporting. Them,
Speaker 8: well this you're breaking news here because THE us government
Speaker 8: last night Denied The National Security council Spokesman Alex feiffer
Speaker 8: denied on behalf Of trump that we were acting On
Speaker 8: israel's behalf in any offensive. Capacity we're not, bombing Then israel's.
Speaker 8: Bombing then you just said we. Were we are supporting
Speaker 8: as you're a. Senator if you're saying The United states
Speaker 8: government is, now we're worth a.
Speaker 1: Run right, now people are. LISTENING i love it When
Speaker 1: tucker goes into his. Well you just, said.
Speaker 4: It's really soft like he takes he. Does i've done
Speaker 4: this before to. It it's unfair and it will make people.
Speaker 4: Nuts if you want to get punched in the face
Speaker 4: or have, her you, know walk out of the room
Speaker 4: when they're, hot you go super super low key to
Speaker 4: try to make it seem like they're out of control
Speaker 4: and you're.
Speaker 5: NOT i Realized ted wanted to be there and is
Speaker 5: enjoying the tussle on one, level But i'd have been
Speaker 5: very tempted to, Say i'm not playing that.
Speaker 1: GAME i know what you're.
Speaker 5: DOING i WONDER i wonder if The National security you just, said,
Speaker 5: way all, right you're.
Speaker 4: Doing could you Check tucker's feed to see if he's
Speaker 4: released it or, not BECAUSE i just want to know
Speaker 4: how long it. IS i, wondered did they talk for
Speaker 4: an hour and a half like he usually, does or
Speaker 4: is it like a ten minute? Interview But Ted cruz
Speaker 4: was a national champion, debater so he doesn't mind sparring with.
Speaker 4: Anybody tucker's crazy smart and his own whatever you call.
Speaker 4: It you, know the world's greatest at arguing unfairly, talents
Speaker 4: so it could be pretty damned. ENTERTAINING i look forward
Speaker 4: to checking out a little more of.
Speaker 1: It, Yeah tucker's.
Speaker 5: Gift is he he willfully misinterprets what you've said in
Speaker 5: a way that sounds perfectly.
Speaker 1: Reasonable, y that's his.
Speaker 5: Superpower, yes, well he just said we or he pretends
Speaker 5: that there are no shades of meaning in certain. Words
Speaker 5: he pretends that there's one definition of them and everybody
Speaker 5: agrees on, them like with we're doing it with The. ISRAELIS,
Speaker 5: whoaoa you're breaking news. Here they just said we're not
Speaker 5: taking it all.
Speaker 1: RIGHT i actually thought that was a decent point of.
Speaker 4: The they wanted to assassinate the. President wait a, second
Speaker 4: you're not saying we're Attacking we didn't attack them when
Speaker 4: we found out that they wanted to assassinate the. President
Speaker 4: so that's not the reason we're doing. It why are
Speaker 4: you throwing that out there unless you're just going to
Speaker 4: go with the argument that you're building a case for
Speaker 4: why you need.
Speaker 5: To Attack iran and that's one of the, Pieces, yes, Exactly,
Speaker 5: yeah it's one aspect of. Them, yeah all, right, well,
Speaker 5: boy that Whole thursday Or, friday something's gonna happen that
Speaker 5: makes The pager attack look simple an. Impressive holy, COW
Speaker 5: i can't wait to find out what it. Is cyber's
Speaker 5: a good guest For Mike.
Speaker 4: Liones if just everything shut down and all of a
Speaker 4: sudden they couldn't respond to, ANYTHING whoa would that get
Speaker 4: the world's. Attention we'd actually get to see what that looks. Like,
Speaker 4: yeah so pretty good handful of. Stories i'm just really
Speaker 4: anxious to get.
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