1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: What's up at Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee and I'm 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: here with my Wealth Wednesday partners Stacy Tisdale. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: Happy Wealth Wednesday. Everybody. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 3: We are closing in on year and I think this 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 3: is episode forty eight. Oh wow, Wealth Wednesday. 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, this show has we started in February, 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: so that makes sense. 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, almost, So we're very excited. 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: So for this very special occasion, we had to have 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: a very special guest and we have George Archimpong. 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, glad to be here, Honored to 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 4: be here, Thank you guys for having me. 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: And he got us smelling good with his equity by 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: melanin Money unisex fragrance, fragrance. 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 4: So for the guys and the girls. 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 3: George is gonna teach us a lot about investing in 17 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: making money. But we have established that if you're going 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: to ask people for money, you gotta smell good. So 19 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: we'll get to that for sure. 20 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: But you are a big deal. 21 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: You're the co founder of Melon and Money and melonon 22 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: Money has an incredible mission which you're going to tell 23 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: us all about. You're all so the founder of Capitalized 24 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: Capitalized capital Wise, which is a financial advisory and investment firm. 25 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: But you were named by Forbes as financial advisors to 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: watch in twenty twenty three. You have all sorts of 27 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: stuff going on, and I know you just had the 28 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 3: first annual Melon and money. 29 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, exciting stuff, exciting stuff. So now we 30 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 4: just had it. It was great. Our overall mission as 31 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 4: a company is to help one hundred thousand people of 32 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: color achieve their first one million in net worth, so 33 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 4: we can decrease the wealth gap by one hundred million dollars. 34 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 4: How long that's going to take us, I don't know, 35 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: ten to fifteen years, but we're committed to the mission, right, 36 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 4: And yeah, so we had The purpose of the awards 37 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 4: show is to like, I feel like a lot of 38 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: people haven't gotten celebrated since they left high school, right, 39 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 4: or unless they went to college. And so when you 40 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: make that contribution to your roth, I right, nothing happens, 41 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 4: No one claps for you, right. So I think if 42 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 4: we want to see more people build wealth, we need 43 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 4: to incentivize them, we need to celebrate them. And so 44 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: every year we're going to be showcasing the milestone. So 45 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: this year we announced that our community has already collectively 46 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 4: accumulated over sixty million in new networth just to hear alone. 47 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: So that's amazing. I want to ask you this as 48 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: we're thinking about the future as a financial advisor, because 49 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, you know that you 50 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: need to get with the financial advisor. My friends will 51 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: ask me. I'm like, you need a financial advisor. I 52 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: don't want to. But one thing I want to ask 53 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: you about is people are talking about twenty twenty four, 54 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: and so do we look at this now as a 55 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: time of great opportunity? How do we know what's going 56 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: to happen. There's a lot of people who are really 57 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: frantic with concern about will I be able to afford 58 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: or is this the perfect time? Is there going to 59 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: be a crash? Is it a depression? And I know 60 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: nobody knows one hundred percent the answer, but what do 61 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: you feel like? What from based on numbers and predictions, 62 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: what do you see twenty twenty four as an opportunity 63 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: for Yeah? 64 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 4: I think first and foremost everybody needs to do an 65 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 4: audit of what they're doing currently, right because I feel 66 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 4: like you can't determine where you want to go if 67 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: you don't know where you are, And so once you 68 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 4: do an audit kind of look at your your spending, 69 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 4: your track record, what you've done, that's going to let 70 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: you know what available assets or cashflow. You have to 71 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 4: take advantage of opportunities. Right, what I think we are 72 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 4: going to see housing prices actually probably go up a 73 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: little bit in twenty twenty four because we expect rates 74 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: to go down, and so that's gonna increase the demand 75 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: in terms of people wanting to get back into the 76 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: housing market. 77 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people wanting to buy and 78 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: not enough inventory. 79 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: Round though inventory, right, so that's gonna that's gonna further 80 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: exacerbate the demand issue, which I think is going to 81 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: drop prices up. But what we what we can find 82 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 4: is that if you have the opportunity before rates continue 83 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 4: to go to go down, is to go ahead and buy, 84 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 4: even if it seems like, man, this is a little 85 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: bit more expensive then I normally would would get. It's 86 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 4: only gonna go up, right, So as long as it's 87 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 4: within your budget. Right now, I'm not telling you about 88 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: something's out of your budget, But as long as it's 89 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: within the realm of your budget, even if it's slightly 90 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: close to the top, I would still advise if getting 91 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 4: a house is something that you want to do, to 92 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 4: go ahead and. 93 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: Do that, it'll be too competitive. 94 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 4: It'd be way too competitive. Rates are going to go down, 95 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: housing prices are going to go up. Supplies already still low. 96 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: But at the same token, when you do that audit, 97 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: if your numbers tell you that regardless of what the 98 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: rates are doing, regardless of what the market is doing 99 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 4: right now, maybe buying a house at this moment isn't 100 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: for me. You just have to base it off of 101 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: where you are. Right as far as it being a 102 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: crash or I mean the stock market, in the markets 103 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 4: in general, I would say buying larger rig to stay 104 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 4: up right. So it's like, I think that you can't 105 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 4: win the game if you're not in the game, right, 106 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 4: So can we predict if somebody makes an investment in 107 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: the stock market real estate the top of the year, 108 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: if the market is going to crash. Everybody thought that 109 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three, right, And one of my portfolios 110 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 4: is up almost seventy percent on the long term. So 111 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 4: it's like, why would I not be in the game, 112 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 4: especially if I know I'm going to be there for 113 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 4: an extended period of time. You might see ebbs and 114 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 4: flows in twenty twenty four. But if you plan to 115 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: own for the foreseeable future, I recommend staying in the game. 116 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: Something that we had talked about is it's really exciting 117 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: how many more blacks and people in our community you're 118 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 3: into wealth building and stock market investing. It's a little 119 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: different for us because a lot of those people are 120 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: first generation wealth. They've a lot of them are new 121 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: to investing, so they've never seen a down market before. Yeah, 122 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 3: and just to back up and give everybody a little 123 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: bit of economics one oh one. I got really frustrated 124 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: last year when I was hearing everybody talk about there's 125 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: going to be a recession, there's going to be this, 126 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: there's going to be that, when we weren't even if 127 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: they had people had the track record and had been 128 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: in the markets for decades and seeing that this that 129 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 3: was just not happening. Then as a country, we've gotten 130 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: used to really cheap money over the past couple of 131 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: long and we just had this little blip and it's 132 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: getting cheap again. So how do you A lot of 133 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 3: what you and Angela were touching on is that whole 134 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: stock markets out here, a lot of us seem to 135 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: think we need to be rich and have those assets 136 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: to have. 137 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: A financial advisor. How do you work around that? 138 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 4: Well, someone's like this, if you were learning how to drive, 139 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 4: We're seeing if you were somebody's going to give you 140 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: a a Mercedes, right, would you want to learn how 141 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 4: to drive the car before you got it or after 142 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: you got it? You probably want to learn how to 143 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 4: drive before you got it, right. This was the same 144 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 4: thing peopleought, well, I'll wait till I get money before 145 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: I learned how to invest. That doesn't make any sense, right, 146 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: because you want to understand the fundamentals and also have 147 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 4: to understand that you are who you are. So if 148 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: you're not a good steward over one hundred dollars, you're 149 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 4: not going to be a good steward over a thousand. 150 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: You're not gonna be a good steard over one hundred. 151 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: Is it? 152 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 4: Money is just a amplifier, right, And so people need 153 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 4: to get a plan in place so that when the 154 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: money starts to come, they actually know what to do with. 155 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 4: I think one of the biggest issues we see is 156 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 4: there are some people who get wind falls of money 157 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 4: and the reason why just sitting in the bank because 158 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: they don't know what to do it, and I feel 159 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 4: like that's almost just as bad as not having it 160 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: at all. Right, you actually have the opportunity to do 161 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: something with it, but you're on the sidelines because you 162 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 4: don't know what to do. 163 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 3: Right. 164 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: So I think that regardless of where you are in 165 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: your journey, because it doesn't have to be Some advisors, 166 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: you know, have minimums of if you can only work 167 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: with them they have a quarter million. But there's plenty 168 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 4: of advisors and plenty of educational ecosystems that you can 169 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 4: tap into to be able to get some type of 170 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 4: plan in place, because you want to have that plan 171 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: established before the money comes or as you're getting started, 172 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 4: so that you can establish that foundation. 173 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: For people who are looking for a financial advisor, what 174 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: are some things that they should look for as they're 175 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: doing their research. 176 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 4: That's a great question, no one that's not asked enough 177 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: quite frankly. Number one, are they a fiduciary? And all 178 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 4: that means is do they have a legal obligation to 179 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: do it in your best interests? Right? So that's what 180 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: I am. Even Google me, you can look me up, like, 181 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: I have to do this in my client's best interest 182 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: because some advisors operate from a suitability clause, meaning like, well, 183 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: you had your money in the bank account is earning 184 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 4: point zero one interest, and now it's in a CD 185 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: and it's earning two percent. So technically that puts you 186 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: in a better situation than it was before, but not 187 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 4: the best outcome. Right, So asking are they a fiduciary 188 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 4: is the first thing, and you can verify this. You 189 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 4: can look up look their name upon the SEC website 190 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff. Number two, you want 191 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 4: to ask them situational based questions to see how they respond. 192 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: Right If they give you cookie cutter answers like oh, 193 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 4: just only invest in S and P five hundred when 194 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: you know that you've seen other ways to invest and 195 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: get higher yields, it's like, okay, well, I understand that 196 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 4: that's something that I could do if I didn't have 197 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: an advisor, But what would you do as my advisor? 198 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: If they can't give you an answer beyond what you 199 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: can google, then I lets you know that they're probably 200 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 4: not going either they don't know what they're talking about, 201 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: or they're going to put you in a cookie so 202 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 4: exactly right, And so those are the top two questions. 203 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: Is being able to ask them like situational specific questions 204 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 4: about what would they do in this scenario, and then 205 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 4: finding out if they're actually a fiduciary, which means they 206 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: have a legal obligation to do with serial mestaenter. 207 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: Let's say somebody's goal is to buy their first house. 208 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: Since we were just talking about real estate, what are some 209 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: things that you would tell them to do to get 210 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: ready for that. 211 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: That's a great question. The first thing I would do 212 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 4: is I would make sure that you have done an 213 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 4: evaluation of your credit, because now you're probably not going 214 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 4: to buy the house cash, right unless you got it 215 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 4: like that? 216 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: It depends on where yeah yeah where right? 217 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? Buy yah in the Midwest like that. Yeah, But 218 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 4: if you aren't buying the house of cash, then you 219 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 4: probably want to make sure that your credit is in 220 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 4: a decent place. Right. Then you want to make sure 221 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: that you know your own personal that the income racial 222 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: because the bank will tell you like you can afford this, 223 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 4: well you think about the expenses and other things that 224 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 4: you're responsible for. You want to predetermine how much hell 225 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 4: you feel comforted. 226 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: How a lot of people got in trouble and what's 227 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: housing Just a good rule of thumb is you should 228 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: never spend more than thirty percent. 229 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: That's what I was going to say. 230 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: If you're after income on any housing ex yes, so. 231 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: They'll tell you, the bank will tell you. You know that 232 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 4: you can afford more, but it might not make sense 233 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 4: for you, right, So making sure that you predetermine what 234 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: your idea that the income ratio is, and then also 235 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: think about the other things, right, Like you're probably gonna 236 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 4: get some new furniture, so like factor in the full 237 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 4: budget of like what is it I need to do 238 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 4: because some people feel like it's just the house is No, 239 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: it's not the house, whole lot of things cost of ownership, right, 240 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: So just really do that analysis, do that budget to 241 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 4: figure out like what makes sense for you, to make 242 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: sure that you understand that you don't get too much house. 243 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 4: And now it's like I can't do anything and I 244 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: can't travel like we talked about offline because I don't 245 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,119 Speaker 4: have any extra resources. 246 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: What are some options for people who need access to cash? Now, 247 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: Like let's just say you did get yourself in a 248 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: situation where you made that type of investment into a house, 249 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: but now I've run out of money. Yeah, right, and 250 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of different options that people have 251 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: as far as accessing a line of credit or what 252 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: are some things that people can do if they find 253 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: themselves in a situation where Man, I've run out of 254 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: money and I have to be able to pay my 255 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: contractor or I have to be able to pay for 256 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: this new windows that are being delivered. 257 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. Like, if you have decent credit right 258 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 4: then you can typically, you know, especially if you have 259 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 4: a banking relationship with your bank, you can access you know, 260 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: different lines of credit or credit cards to be able 261 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: to subsidize or maybe slightly more abstract answer, if someone 262 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: is a working professional is looking for to bring additional 263 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: income into the household. I always tell people, even if 264 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 4: you don't know anything about entrepreneurship, there's millions to be 265 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 4: made in the middle. And what I mean by that 266 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 4: the whole economy is set up off this premise. There's 267 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: a buyer, a builder, and a broker, someone who makes something, 268 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 4: someone who wants to buy in a person or something 269 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 4: in the middle to connect both people. So even if 270 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: you don't know much about entrepreneurship, you can find a 271 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: sweet spot to where hey, look, I know somebody who 272 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 4: wants this, right, I know somebody who can make this, 273 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 4: and how can I connect both people to be able 274 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,599 Speaker 4: to extract some income and some resources from that? So 275 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: I think I would encourage people to look into things 276 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: like even social media management, right, or content creation. You 277 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 4: can get people on fiver to create short reels and clips. 278 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 4: Fore everybody everybody's into content creation. Now get it done 279 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 4: on five or for twenty bucks, and then charge the 280 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: person five hundred dollars, right, and you don't have to 281 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 4: be the creator. So just finding those ways where it's like, 282 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 4: how can I be creative in making money so that 283 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 4: I don't even have to leverage credit if I don't 284 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 4: want to. 285 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: How did you get into all this? 286 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: You're a black financial advisor, licensed everything. 287 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: It's not an easy thing to be. 288 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll try to give you the short answer. So 289 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 4: I grew up like many people, not knowing about money, 290 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 4: and so I went When I went to college, I 291 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 4: got a double major in marketing and economics. I had 292 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: no intention of leveraging the economics degree for a career. 293 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 4: I just wanted to understand money and help my family. 294 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 4: I graduated O nine. If anybody knew what the economy 295 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 4: looked like at OH nine. There were no marketing jobs 296 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 4: available at O nine job but in the finance space 297 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 4: because everybody was getting laid off because they caused the crash. 298 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: They were like, hey, we got some openings over here. 299 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 4: I thought it was a job, but it was really 300 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 4: one hundred percent commission job, right, So I had to 301 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: like essentially meet what I killed. But I thought I 302 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 4: was about to get a paycheck. Two weeks roll around, 303 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: I was like, I didn't get a check, Like, oh, 304 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 4: you don't get a check until you bring in clients. 305 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 4: I was like, oh. 306 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, little situation from them. 307 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. So I got in and then I was the 308 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 4: company I was working for. They told me to do 309 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: this exercise called Project two hundred, and basically it's like 310 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 4: list out two hundred people that you would want to 311 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 4: trade paychecks with, people who have a lot of money, 312 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 4: people who have this amount of investment assets. And I 313 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: couldn't think of like two people. So I was like, oh, okay, well, 314 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 4: it seems like wealth management is not made for people 315 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 4: to look like us. But I knew that couldn't be true. 316 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 4: So I was like, how can I create a path 317 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: to where I can educate and serve and meet people 318 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: where they are, and so I then left that firm 319 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: and ultimately started my own firm, and then from there 320 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 4: I started a firm that allowed people to realize that 321 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: wealth can look like them too, And so I didn't 322 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 4: focus on the asset side. Originally, I focused on people 323 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 4: who made a decent living and had a little bit 324 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 4: of a surplus and could start investing in start building wealth, 325 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: versus focus on people who already had the money, and 326 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 4: then from there that just continue to grow and then 327 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: ultimately into what I have now with the melon and 328 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 4: money ecosystem as well. 329 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: Tell us about melon and Money ecosystem in this second. 330 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: But first this guy's investment portfolio. He was just saying 331 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 3: he works with people who have little bits to spend. 332 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: He's outpaced Warren Buffett. I mean, that's why he's getting 333 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: all this attention Forbes and everything. You are the real 334 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: the real deal. 335 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: Is always. 336 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of business. Especially over the 337 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 4: past like three years, it's been it's been interesting. 338 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: How do you what do you tell people? 339 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: Like, how do they there's so many coaches and so 340 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: many influencers, how do they weed out those that don't 341 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 3: have the track record and should not be giving out 342 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: financial advice. 343 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's it's rooted in due diligence, right, 344 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: It's like, I mean the Internet is great, Well, the 345 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: Internet has given the curse right in a sense that 346 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 4: anybody can have a platform, but also anybody can have 347 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 4: a platform, so you have to kind of just go 348 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: behind the covers, you know, And and is their proof, right? 349 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: Have they helped other people? Is there documented results that 350 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 4: they've gotten for other people, not just themselves, because often 351 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: what you see is the results they were able to 352 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 4: from themselves after selling information, taking the money that they 353 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 4: got from selling information, and then doing the thing that 354 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 4: they told everybody else to do. So is there some 355 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 4: documented track record of them actually getting the results? Right? 356 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 4: So me, it's all Google, It's all verifiable. So when 357 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 4: I even thought about like selling my firm, I was like, 358 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 4: I don't want to do it because that's the one 359 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 4: thing that keeps me like between like the educators and 360 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: the experts, right, and not to say that there's anything 361 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: wrong with educators. I think it's phenomenal. I think it 362 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 4: bridges a gap because everybody's not going to be able 363 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 4: to hire an advisor right away, but you have to 364 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: make sure that you're working with somebody who knows what 365 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: they're doing, because there's people who share information. It's like, hey, 366 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: I find this interesting. I'm just sharing it with my audience. 367 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: I don't know nobody, and I'm doing this. 368 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: It's working for me. Maybe you should try it, but 369 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: I'm not, you know, I'm just sharing it, right. Then 370 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 4: there's educating, Hey, this worked for me. I might not 371 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 4: work for your specific situation, but this has worked for 372 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: me and you can try it. And then there's advising, 373 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: where I have a track record of helping several people 374 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 4: in different situations get this result, so I can give 375 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: you specific advice relative to your. 376 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: Situation, and that comes with a lot more responsibility, a 377 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: lot more response because if something doesn't work. 378 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, my clients could could suit me if they wanted, 379 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: Like if I gave them ill gotten advice and they 380 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 4: lost money or something like that, Like as a fiduciary, 381 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 4: they would have the right to suit me. In twelve years, 382 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 4: I've never had a negative complaint, so I'm grateful. 383 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: How much do financial advices costs? Like what's the range 384 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: for people who are listening and that are like, this 385 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: is something I want to do, but can I afford it. 386 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it depends upon their area specialty, but it 387 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: can range anywhere from let's call it four to six 388 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 4: thousand dollars a year upwards to sixty thousand, depending and 389 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 4: when you get to sixty thousand, you're talking more like 390 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: fractional family office where they're like managing you know, your 391 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: accountant and everybody and your financial team. But there are 392 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: some pretty cost effective financial advisors. And you can also 393 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 4: do project based, right, so maybe you don't want to 394 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 4: hire some money for the full year. But it's like, hey, 395 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: I'm about to buy this house, can you go through 396 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 4: exercise with me to make sure that I got on 397 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: my ducks in a row? Or hey, I'm about to 398 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 4: get married and me and my spouse are combined in 399 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 4: our finance for the first time, can you helpless? And 400 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 4: they'll just charge like two fifty an hour. So I 401 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 4: tell people you can almost like date your financial advisor, right, 402 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: see if they have an hourly rate, and now'll give 403 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 4: you and give you some insights. Could you work with them? 404 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: Because my clients, I'm working with them, you know, probably 405 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 4: until they die. 406 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: How much does it cost to work with you? 407 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: Let's that's the question, right, hopefully. 408 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: It ranges. It ranges between on the high end, between 409 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 4: like thirty to forty thousand a year. But my clients 410 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 4: make the money back so quickly. 411 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: But you have a platform that people can do a monthly. 412 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 4: Oh for sure. Yes, our educational that's our educational ecosystem. 413 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 4: So I have educational platform that's probably just as good 414 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: as some advisors. And it's only nine nine dollars a month. Right, 415 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 4: I have my entire course framework in the platform. We 416 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: have live classes that we teach, you know, every week. 417 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: So yeah, someone's just getting started. I think that's a 418 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: great start, is our educational Do. 419 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: You have more stuff? And like, let's just somebody has 420 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: some money. People do this to me all the time. 421 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: They'll be like, oh, you know, I saved up a 422 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars and I want to do something with it? 423 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: What should I do? And I'm like, I don't know. 424 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: But when somebody says that, you know, because it's like 425 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: you could invest in the stock market, you could purchase 426 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: a property depending on where you are. But I can't 427 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: tell somebody what they should do. But if somebody came 428 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: to you and said that, right, you know, what are 429 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: some things you can do If you have some money 430 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: saved and you're like, I want to do something with it, Like, 431 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: what are some different suggestions? 432 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll give you my I would say my bread 433 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: and butter framework that I tell people. So the first 434 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 4: thing I want to do is like, I want to 435 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 4: define what freedom looks like for them, because investing doesn't matter, right, 436 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: save you money on taxes doesn't matter. What matters is 437 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 4: somewhere in your mind you've identified an ideal lifestyle that 438 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 4: you want, right, I want to live here, I want 439 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 4: to help these people. I want to travel here, I 440 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 4: want to eat this kind of food. So there's a 441 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 4: number we can put to that, Right, if we actually 442 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 4: sat down, Well, how many trips do you want to 443 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 4: take a year? Where do you want to go? What 444 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 4: kind of car do you want to drive? We could 445 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 4: back into a number, and that allows us to figure 446 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 4: out your freedom number. Right. Once we figure out your 447 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 4: freedom number, and then when you want to hit that number, 448 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 4: that will then kind of narrow open up the guardrails 449 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 4: on the types of investments that make sense. Right. So 450 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 4: what I typically, my tried and true strategy is this, 451 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 4: I look at the stock market as my bank account 452 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 4: alternative for my non essential spending. What I mean by 453 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: that is for any money that I don't need for 454 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 4: day to day living or short or mediate expenses, most 455 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 4: of my money's going to stock market. Why because if 456 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 4: you put it in the right type of account, a 457 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 4: brokerage account, you can actually borrow against the value of 458 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 4: that account and then leverage that to go buy more assets. 459 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 4: So you might person might say, like when it comes 460 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 4: to insurance, but this is a little bit for me, 461 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 4: it's a little bit more straightforward versus like with the insurance, 462 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 4: you got to go through somebody, you got to hope 463 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 4: that they designed the policy the right way. But with this, 464 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 4: you can literally deposit your money an investment account, immediately 465 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 4: have a line of credit right up to forty percent 466 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: of your portfolio value, and then go use that to 467 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 4: go buy cash flow producing assets like real estate. Right 468 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 4: And then if you're still building up to your freedom 469 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 4: number and you don't need that cash flow to live 470 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: because you're still working, you take that cash flow you 471 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 4: reinvested back into the portfolio. So now you're able to 472 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: essentially triple right the timeline to be able to being 473 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: able to build wealth because you got your portfolio that's 474 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 4: already growing at ten to twenty thirty percent a year. 475 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 4: Then you now have this casual producer asset that you bought, 476 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: they're still going to appreciate in value. And then you 477 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 4: got the cash lets you were able to reinvest back 478 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: into your portfolio is now able to grow with your 479 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 4: original investment. So that's kind of like the that's a. 480 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: Better answer than I could have given. Anyway. 481 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 3: That's since you started, and now we've seen so much 482 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: more interest in blacks in the stock market. I want 483 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: to know what you think have been the biggest mind shifts. 484 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: But it's also. 485 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: Interesting I was doing a report a couple of weeks ago. 486 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: If you look at affluent blacks and affluent whites, both 487 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: say net worth seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. The 488 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: blacks have the majority they're investing in real estate and 489 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 3: the whites have the majority of their investing in stocks, 490 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: and a lot of that's just because of how blacks 491 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 3: feel about real estate. So I want you to talk 492 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 3: a little bit about our mindset and what shifts you've 493 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: seen and where you see where you'd like to see 494 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: us go. 495 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: And to add on to that, I just want to say, 496 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: I really I can't remember who it was, but somebody 497 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: was saying real estate is a waste of money. I 498 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: don't own a home. I forget it was a Grand Cardon. Yeah, 499 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: it might have been Grand Cardon. He was like, I 500 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: don't own a home. And I was like, this is 501 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: weird to me, but okay. 502 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, a little radical. I think that people that look 503 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 4: like us, they like the tangibility of real estate. Right yeah, 504 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: It's like I'm literally living in it. It's right here, 505 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: I can touch it, I can feel it. So it 506 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 4: seems more logical to invest. The thing about the stock 507 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 4: market is highly liquid, and it's the market is kind 508 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 4: of emotional, right Donald Trump, he was in office. He 509 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: could tweet something and it could be with the market, right, 510 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 4: So people are people feel kind of some type of 511 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 4: way about that. It doesn't it doesn't feel real to them, right. 512 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 4: But the reality is when you invest in the stock market, 513 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 4: you're owning a small piece of companies that you shop 514 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 4: with every day. All of us probably here have iPhones. 515 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 4: I hope if there's an enjoy users you know what 516 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 4: I'm saying. I don't know, but like, these are real 517 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 4: companies and if you can understand that, now, the best 518 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 4: CEOs in the world work for me. Right, if Tim 519 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 4: Cook does good, if Elon Musk, which he's a little 520 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 4: interesting at times, if he does good, at the end 521 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 4: of the day, all I have to do is with 522 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 4: no bear to entry. Right, for a few hundred dollars, 523 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 4: I can now own a piece of this company, right, 524 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: which I think is amazing, and it democratizes well puilding 525 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 4: because there are bears entry to real estate, not that 526 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 4: you shouldn't do it, but there might be someone who 527 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 4: has to wait two three years to get their stuff 528 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 4: together before they can buy that property. Right, But you 529 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 4: can invest as little as fifty dollars or one hundred 530 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 4: dollars today. 531 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: Right, Right, You might buy a house and it might 532 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: take three years for you to even start renovating, and 533 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: then it costs a million times more than what you expected. 534 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: Sounds personal, but it is. 535 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: And then passing that house on to the next generation 536 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 3: not an easy task at all. 537 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 4: Not an easy task at all. Right, And so again 538 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 4: it's not that these things are wrong, they just you 539 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 4: have to understand what comes with it, right, Like just 540 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 4: like the car of ownership, people think I want to 541 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: get into real estates. I see people talking about flipping 542 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 4: houses are Okay, okay, cool, But like, do you understand 543 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: the full scope? 544 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 545 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 4: Right, So it's not that these things are right or wrong, 546 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 4: but if you do want to pass it down. People 547 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 4: throw the term generational wealth out very loosely, but you 548 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 4: can't create generational wealth or you don't have a generational 549 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 4: wealth plan. 550 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: Right, You're leaving somebody taxes, you're leaving somebody debt, you're 551 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 3: leaving them in liquid. And now, in the black community, 552 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: we're told our grandparents and everyone were told you, when 553 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 3: you've made it. 554 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: You get a house. We have that conditioning when you 555 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: made it. 556 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my grandfather. They save your money, buy a house. 557 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 3: And when you have to be and we used to 558 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: be property, so home ownership has a whole, very very 559 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: special meaning to us. But I'm so excited to see 560 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: more people getting into stocks. But tell us how you 561 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: beat Orange Buffett. 562 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: I got his. 563 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 4: It's actually not that hard. You're ready for this. The 564 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 4: million dollar strategy. Okay, So all I do is this, 565 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 4: I call it the Burger King investment strategy. Right. So 566 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: McDonald's puts thousands and hundreds of thousands, if not millions 567 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 4: of dollars in determining where they want to put their 568 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 4: next location. Right, all Burg King does is they put 569 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 4: it across the street from McDonald's. Right, that was already 570 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,239 Speaker 4: out the heavy lifting, right. So what I mean by 571 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 4: that from an investing standpoint is the biggest companies in 572 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: the world, like you know, Vanguard, black Rock, they have 573 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 4: analysts who put in tons of research to figure out 574 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 4: how to put these dts together, these index funds, and 575 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 4: that's just the basket of companies. Right. So the way 576 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: I like to explain it is if you go to 577 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 4: a mall, it's a popular mall in New York, like 578 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 4: a big mall. 579 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: Here me see what's the one. 580 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: We don't really have malls like that, to King's Plaza. 581 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 4: King's Plaza, right, So it has all these stores I'm 582 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 4: assuming is it backstory. 583 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: On Kings Like New York's not as much as a 584 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: mall place as New Jersey or something like that. 585 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: Isn't that considered ab thirty fourth Street? 586 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: This is a funny Short Hills mall is my favorite. 587 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 4: A lot of stores in Short Hills. Okay, so Short. 588 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: Hills American Dream that has the most American dream. 589 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 4: Honey stores are American Dream roughly, they have like a 590 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 4: whole Yeah, so a lot probably five hundred, six hundred, 591 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 4: may maybe even more six right, Okay, cool, so we 592 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 4: got we got So if one of those stores closed down, 593 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 4: or two of those stores, or for of those stores 594 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 4: closed down, is the whole all going to close down? No? Right, 595 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 4: That's that's how an index fund or ETF works. Right, 596 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 4: If one or two or three or four of the 597 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: companies don't perform, the index fund is designed to be 598 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 4: so diversified with five hundred companies, hence the sp five 599 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 4: hundred to where it's it's still going to be able 600 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 4: to perform decently. Now there's pros to that, right, because 601 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 4: it's not going to fail. But also there are some losers, right, 602 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 4: they're probably dragged down the overall performance, which is why 603 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: it averages like ten or eleven percent. So where warm buffer. 604 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 4: Somebody might tell you to just invest in an index fund. 605 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 4: That's cool, you'll get your ten eleven percent. What I 606 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 4: like to do is look inside of it and it's like, okay, well, 607 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 4: of all these five hundred companies, what are the top 608 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 4: five to ten? So then I'll have about fifty percent 609 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 4: of my portfolio owning the index fund. For diversity and 610 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 4: for diversification, and then for the other fifty percent, I'm 611 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 4: picking the top winners, the Apples, the Microsofts, the Googles, 612 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 4: the Teslas, and so now what happens is is I'm 613 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 4: what you would call overweight in these really really well 614 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 4: performing companies, and so that helps me get an outside return. 615 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 4: And all that means is it helps me beat the 616 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 4: market or beat warm buff and I've been doing that 617 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 4: for the past five to six years. 618 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: It's a good time to be overweight. 619 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, probably the only time only time it is good 620 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 4: to be overweight, you know what. 621 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: It's also about timing to write and so and when 622 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: you buy things. So cryptocurrency, crypto currency that's been back 623 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: in the news a lot, like the news and so 624 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: what is going on because people are like, Okay, this 625 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: is going to be having this is gonna be a 626 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: great time. So I want to hear your thoughts about that, 627 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: because that's something I've never like, I bought a little 628 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: bit of bitcoin just to watch what was going to happen. 629 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 3: Or gave us a little bit Yeah yeah, yeah he did. 630 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 4: People. 631 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: It was fifty dollars, okay, but it's a good way 632 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: to's kind of like, yeah, to test it and see 633 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: what's going on to watch it go up and down, 634 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: up and down, because that's also when you're watching. 635 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 4: Stuff, it is like your kind of nerve wrecking. 636 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nerve wracking every single day. So what is 637 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: about to happen with that? 638 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 4: With bitcoin? 639 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 1: I mean ethereum, just in general. 640 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 4: In general. I look at crypt currency. I was talking 641 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 4: a little bit about this on the way over here. 642 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 4: I look at cryptocurrency still as you know, an alternative asset, 643 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 4: right that you know has a lot of potential, but 644 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 4: I think there's still a lot of unknowns. So for me, 645 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: in my personal portfolio strategy, I only allocate no more 646 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 4: than ten percent of my portfolio to things that I'm 647 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 4: comfortable losing one hundred percent of, right, So that's venture capital, 648 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 4: that's private equity, uh, bitcoin, anything like from an alternative standpoint, 649 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 4: So for me, I don't necessarily not have a prediction 650 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 4: of what I think is going to do. I think 651 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 4: that it's it's going If black Rock approves the ETF 652 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 4: and they have a really strong approval rating, I think 653 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 4: it's going to go up substantially. It could go up 654 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 4: to probably all the way up to one hundred thousand 655 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 4: by twenty twenty five, but nobody knows. I'm being honest. 656 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: I would like the wild West, though. It's like at 657 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: the beginning, a lot of people really Internet, you know, we. 658 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 3: Think it's here to stay, but it's just like when 659 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 3: the stock market first started, it's still so wild. 660 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: Remember everybody was doing NFTs. 661 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, yeah, I remember that. I was crazy, crazy 662 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 4: people paying two hundred thousand for digital monkeys. 663 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: And those people cast out that sold those digital. 664 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 4: Monkeys, and some people got to live holding the bag 665 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 4: as it always goes. Yeah, I would say, like, have 666 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: a small percentage of your overall investments and say, you 667 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 4: know what, because I think you still got to get 668 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 4: in the game, because you'll you'll you'll be pissed off 669 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 4: if like bitcoin does go to one hundred and you 670 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 4: one hundred thousand. You don't at least own a thousand dollars, right, 671 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 4: So whatever, you're comfortable losing one hundred percent. 672 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: Of I say invested, Yeah, fifty dollars will turn into 673 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars, hope, or if. 674 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 4: Not, we'll call it. I bought bitcoin for the first 675 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: time in twenty seventeen, and I come on to eighty 676 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 4: percent of it ever. 677 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: Since odemn every back up. 678 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, every right. 679 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 3: So we have a lot of entrepreneurs in our audience, 680 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: and you just did a podcast called Getting Big Results 681 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: in Your Business in twenty twenty four. 682 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: Spill it. What do we do? 683 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 684 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: I need that help for sure? 685 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 4: For sure? For sure? Okay. So the first thing is 686 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 4: like again it goes back to like the personal finance, right, like, 687 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 4: what did you do that went really well? Right? You 688 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 4: have to audit Sometimes people get so attracted to the 689 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 4: shiny ball, like the next big things, like well, what's working? 690 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 4: And can I double and triple down on what's already working? 691 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 4: That's the first thing. The second thing is you have 692 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 4: to know your numbers, right, because if you're looking at 693 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 4: your business and something that you would like to do 694 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 4: or you enjoy to do, but at the same token 695 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 4: is not the most profitable, you might have to consider 696 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 4: like does this make sense for me to focus on 697 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 4: right now, right versus the thing that has the higher 698 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 4: margin and is going to give you, you know, more 699 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 4: more results. Right. Then you have to learn how to 700 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 4: hire the right people, right, Like you have to hire 701 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 4: the right people because most founders are not the best CEOs. 702 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 4: Here's why, here's why, right, The reason why most founders 703 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 4: are not the best CEOs is because founding and this 704 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 4: is myself included, Like ultimately we are visionaries, right, Like 705 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: we want to do all the next big frontier. We 706 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: want to take over the world, right. And so a 707 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: truth founder is brand focused and a CEO is numbers focused. Right. 708 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 4: And so even if you're still the sea of your business, 709 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 4: you need somebody or some people in your business who 710 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 4: can keep you while you're in the clouds, can keep 711 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 4: you rooted, right and making sure that Okay, this is 712 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 4: a great idea, but like does this make sense for 713 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four? Right? And having that dynamic team, I 714 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 4: think everybody needs at least three players on their team. 715 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 4: You need somebody who can fly the plane, which is 716 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: a divisionary, and the CEO. Somebody that can take care 717 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 4: of the passengers, which make sure that if you say 718 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 4: you sell a fragrance, that somebody orders it in two days, 719 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 4: they actually get it to the scammer, right, And then 720 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 4: somebody who can essentially, so you got taking care of 721 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 4: the passengers flying the plane and get more people on 722 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 4: the plane, right, Because if you I don't care how 723 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 4: big your business is or how great your product, is 724 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 4: if you can't get people on the plane right, you 725 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 4: can't get new customers, then your business is going to 726 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 4: go out of business. A hit song is not made, 727 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 4: it's marketed right. So you have to be able to 728 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 4: figure out, how can I get as much awareness as 729 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 4: possible for what I do, so if I have a 730 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: great product, I can actually sell the thing. And then 731 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 4: who is making sure that we are paying attention to 732 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 4: what's happening in the world so that our business doesn't 733 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 4: become obsolete? 734 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 3: A million and a half years ago might have even 735 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 3: been two million. I interviewed Bill Gates. I was asking 736 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: him what was the secret to starting a tech company 737 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 3: and he was starting at he said, I don't care 738 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 3: what company it is. He's like, find five people you 739 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 3: trust and you do and do business with them for 740 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: the rest of your life. He's like, I don't care 741 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: what's the product I don't like or what's the company. 742 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: He's like, fine, Fine, five people. 743 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 4: Without without team. It's really hard. It's really hard. 744 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and finding those five people is really hard. Things change, Yeah, 745 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: and you know, especially if it's your friends or family. 746 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: Don't hire from proxy, Like that's a big mistake I've 747 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 4: made early on like hiring from proximity, Like somebody raises 748 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 4: their hand like, well I can help. I can help. 749 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 4: Nine times out of ten your business is going to grow. 750 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 4: They're not going to grow at the same rate. You 751 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 4: had to have that awkward conversation of like, this doesn't 752 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 4: make sense anymore. Like hire the company has a Taxi 753 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 4: D number, you have a social right. The company has needs, 754 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 4: just like you have needs, So you have to hire 755 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 4: for the company's needs, right, and not try to create 756 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: roles for people because they're your friends or because you 757 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 4: care about them, because it's just that. 758 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: Just it's just when you have those conversations, was even 759 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: qualified for this? But I helped you? 760 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 4: Well, then they feeling tired. It's the whole episode on that. 761 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of entrepreneurs who have fragrances and need to 762 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 3: smell nice, equity equity tell us about equity. Yeah. 763 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, So when I started meiling in money, so I 764 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 4: remember I come from the financial advisory background, right, and 765 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 4: so when I started meiling in money, I was like, 766 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,239 Speaker 4: I don't want to spend money to put to create billboards, right, 767 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 4: I was like, but I got to figure out some 768 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 4: way to spark conversations on building wealth right. So that 769 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 4: started with just you know what most people do, you know, 770 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 4: T shirts and strong statements like oh what does it 771 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 4: mean to be a mellon and millionaire? What does it 772 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 4: mean to be black brilliant billionaire in the making. If 773 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 4: I've ever seen those shirts, that's my brand. And so 774 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 4: I was like, this is cool, and it started to 775 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 4: kind of take on its own identity, and people thought 776 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 4: that was my main thing. I was like, no, actually, 777 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 4: I have a whole financial firm, right, And so as 778 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 4: I continue to buid out the product line, I'm just 779 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 4: always thinking of way that will spark conversations or the 780 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 4: conversation building well, oh what are you wearing? Oh it's equity, 781 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: Oh what's that about? And then it sparks the conversation. 782 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 4: This is not just a physical product, and there's a 783 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 4: whole financial ecosystem behind it, so that people are now 784 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 4: interested and intrigued about building. Well. So that's kind of 785 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 4: so that's what a frekrance idea. 786 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: You know what I wanted to ask you since you 787 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: brought up Eli Musk earlier. Yeah, and he had tweeted out, 788 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: de e I must die Yes, I saw that, Yes, 789 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: And so I want to talk about the importance of 790 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: DEI when it comes to corporations and the resistance that 791 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: so many people have to it. 792 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think the resistance comes from the 793 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 4: fact of, like I mean, put it like this, if 794 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 4: you have been in power and the world has been 795 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 4: designed in a way to cater to you, and now 796 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 4: people want what they consider to be their fair share, 797 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 4: Like you're natural that you just don't want that to happen. 798 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: I think we even see I think, what's her name, 799 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 4: I think Arianna some Ari No she has she has 800 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 4: the fearless fun. 801 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: I think, oh, yeah, she's under attack right now because 802 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: they're saying that like that fun was like only targeting. 803 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 4: Only talking to minorities and women founders, and I feel 804 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 4: like that's discrimination, and so it's like I feel like 805 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 4: it's so crazy, right. I just feel like like because 806 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 4: of access to information and because people are learning and 807 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 4: put because we're growing into community, other communities feel under attacked, 808 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 4: like oh my gosh, like they're getting what's rightfully there 809 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 4: is and we need to find ways to slow that progress. 810 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 4: Four hundred years of slowing it down wasn't enough, right, 811 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 4: So I think that's what we're seeing a lot of 812 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 4: that energy from which lets you know that we probably 813 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 4: are doing better than people give us credit for because 814 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 4: why should they care? Exactly why should they care? 815 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 3: And animals most dangerous just before it does with that question. 816 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: But I mean the whole dee. 817 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: It's very very complex because you might have a well 818 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 3: meaning CEO, but he has managers under him who with 819 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: their performance reviews is how much they sold? 820 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: So that a lot. It's very very very complex stuff. 821 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 822 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 3: So you're writing your own rules and I know you 823 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 3: have presence holiday presents. You put together a little bundle 824 00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: for U. 825 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, absolutely so. 826 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: In addition to our equity. 827 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I wanted to make sure that people could, 828 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 4: you know, start the year off right. So, I mean 829 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 4: it's the end of the year. You might feel a 830 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 4: little bit guilty about your holiday spending. 831 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: Oh you wait, hold up, I do a little bit. 832 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 4: How are feel about your home? 833 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: I know it's so bad. Is that I was like 834 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: trying to buy gifts today because I'm so busy, I 835 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: haven't done anything. And and I say this, and I 836 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: hate that I've said this to our listener so much. 837 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: Do not wait till the last minute. That's the worst 838 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: thing you can do. And here I am waiting the 839 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: last minute, waited till the last minute. 840 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, a wise man once told me, if you 841 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 4: didn't bring it, bring it, which you're not gonna find 842 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 4: it here, right, So what I mean by that is like, 843 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 4: it's already happened, right the years old. It's no need 844 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 4: to beat yourself up off of what alreadys happened. What 845 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 4: we can do is create a plan so that next 846 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 4: year we don't put ourselves in the same predicament. Right. 847 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 4: So I wanted to put together is a few free resources, 848 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 4: absolutely free. One is a personal budgeting guide, right, so 849 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 4: that if you're trying to create that cat flow plan 850 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 4: for twenty twenty four, you want to save more, you 851 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 4: want to invest more, Now we'll have this resource where 852 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 4: you can really evaluate your expenses to determine where your 853 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 4: money's gonna go. I created the same thing for the 854 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 4: business as well. It's a business forecasting blueprint. So everybody says, 855 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 4: I want to make one hundred thousand or two hundred thousand, 856 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 4: all right, Well what's the plan, right? What are your 857 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 4: expenses where you think the revenue is gonna come from. 858 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 4: So I created a whole blueprint that people can leverage 859 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 4: to kind of forecast to forecast out their business revenue, 860 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 4: and I added a dividend stock investing god. So my 861 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 4: top twenty five recommendations on dividend stocks. 862 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: All free is a free free okay for to sign 863 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: up because we love you. 864 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 3: And you text the word freeb FR E E B 865 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 3: I EEP to seven zero four two seven zero six 866 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 3: four seven seven freebe and you get all that. 867 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely that's freebe. 868 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 4: So that's back to something you said earlier in the 869 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 4: podcast is like how do you vet or maybe you 870 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 4: said how do you vet out people? 871 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 2: Right? 872 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 4: It was like my whole thing is if you can't 873 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 4: get value from somebody's free information and you define shouldn't 874 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 4: pay them, right, So like if the free information is 875 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 4: like style like I really didn't get so like if 876 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 4: you can't get value from that, then you definite shouldn't 877 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 4: pay me. 878 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: And also people have to know that it's work on 879 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: your end too. 880 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 4: Oh for sure. 881 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: You know, if you're signing up and paying money for something, 882 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: go get your money's worth and make sure that you're 883 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: doing what you're supposed to do and going above and beyond. 884 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: And if you have access to be able to have 885 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: one on one conversations or sending questions or whatever it is, like, 886 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: make sure you use the information. 887 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty sure you have people all the time 888 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 4: or you all the time. Actually, like what should I do? 889 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 4: Or I have this money, I want to invest or whatever? 890 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 4: Like have you listened to one episode of Wealthy Wednesdays 891 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 4: right of the forty eight episodes? Like so sometimes people 892 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 4: don't take advantage of the free stuff out of entitlement 893 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,479 Speaker 4: or whatever, but like take advantage of free school. 894 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: I have a whole Facebook grill. 895 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 2: Now we have Wealth Wednesdays. You can't remember those numbers. 896 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 3: We are going to say them again, but we're gonna 897 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 3: put all of his information in Wealth Wednesdays for entrepreneurs 898 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: Facebook group. 899 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we'll put the number. 900 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 3: The free be everything a picture of equity, Yes, grab that. 901 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 4: Right, every I am selling that that's not included in there. 902 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 4: That's not include the free but it smells good. 903 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: So all right, well, thank you so much for joining us. 904 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: This was an amazing conversation. 905 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. 906 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 3: Thank you, George. We can listen to you on Melon 907 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 3: in Money absolutely so. 908 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 4: Our YouTube channel is Meling in Money. Our Instagram channels 909 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 4: Melon and Money. Of course you can follow me personally. 910 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 4: George Action, Paul Junior, You're definitely gonna need to put 911 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 4: that because they're not we're not gonna start, they're gonna 912 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 4: they're probably gonna be spell that one. But I'm I'm 913 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 4: on you know, social media, YouTube, all that jazz. 914 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 3: So thank you for being on Wealth Wednesdays on way up. 915 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: Yes, this is gonna help people as we're all trying 916 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: to reach our goals. 917 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you for having me