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Speaker 2: Out of love when news breaks minutes before the show starts.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in just a moment. It is

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Speaker 1: No, they haven't Scott, they haven't named the pope yet,

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Speaker 1: so we don't have to we don't have to talk

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Speaker 1: about that. He's wait, that is waiting patiently. There is

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Speaker 1: a new one. There was white smoke today, no black, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna rely on you to report when we get

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Speaker 2: the name. You have to say it and pronounce it correctly.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Yes, you are a pope expert on the

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Speaker 4: A lot of pressure, yeah, a lot of a lot

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Speaker 4: of pressure on me to name the pope if they ever,

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Speaker 4: if they ever get to it, because honestly, I've been

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Speaker 4: and it's just a lot of pop and circumstance, which

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Speaker 1: Tradition is cool and all, you know and everything, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's get this poke out here.

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Speaker 2: TV networks are loving it because they get to go.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll get a name when we come back. After

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Speaker 2: exactly before we begin, AJ, you were just named dork

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Speaker 2: Territory just completed. If you want to check it out

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Speaker 2: I know you caught some of it.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Ken, I don't. I find it extremely unprofessional,

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Speaker 1: It was perfect for Fox. We went from Baltimore, Kansas,

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Speaker 1: I was sleeping by the time. You know, I was

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Speaker 3: Fair trade off crats.

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Speaker 2: I think instead of the lawsuit settlement with the bow tie,

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Speaker 2: life and taking a photo for us.

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Speaker 6: I have a picture of Ken and Grimace, so that's

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Speaker 6: the only photo I need. This is between This is

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Speaker 3: Fair Okay, can can make it?

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Speaker 1: Can can make it up to me? This weekend I

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Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about It's fine.

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Speaker 3: The alligator arm battle is on.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, what's up? Oh? I can't get down there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is not Derek Shelton's fault, not

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Speaker 1: But it's not Derek Shelton's fault. I know they fired him,

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Speaker 1: They had him sitting there. They're trying a different voice.

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Speaker 6: And that's not Derek Shelton's fault. That's not gonna be

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Speaker 6: at it like to me the way that you grade

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's be real.

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Speaker 2: Most people are looking at this team not expecting much,

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Speaker 2: from our FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal, fresh off of

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Speaker 5: Not at all surprised by this. And while everything AJ

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Speaker 5: This problem that they have goes so much deeper. It

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Speaker 6: The five year plan for Ben Sherrington is obviously at

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Speaker 5: I would be shocked if he got another five years.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know what his contractual situation is exactly,

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Speaker 5: the past two off seasons has raised expectations, has said

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Speaker 1: to me, this is a complete failure from top to

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Speaker 5: it is an organizational failure when the manager gets fired.

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Speaker 2: So ken Don Kelly takes over as intern manager for

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Speaker 1: So they're in a really.

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Speaker 5: Interesting and difficult spot because they're not much they can

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Speaker 1: Okay, Ken, before we get into a different subject, I

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Speaker 5: You see this all the time in the game with

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Speaker 1: Okay, And then let me go to the league wide

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Speaker 1: question of this, ken is is this the first domino

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Speaker 5: It shouldn't have any effect on any other team. Every

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Speaker 5: But yes, these things do tend to run in waves,

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Speaker 1: Okay, Ken, Now my last thing. I know, I was

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Speaker 1: But do you retain a lawyer? Do you have a

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Speaker 1: for you showing text messages that were sent privately amongst people,

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Speaker 5: I am married to an attorney. I am the son

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Speaker 7: Bringing on.

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Speaker 8: Oh okay, okay, like that, Morgan. We have Morgan and Morgan,

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Speaker 8: and they're for the people.

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Speaker 5: Ken, Okay, I would say those texts were pretty indocuous.

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Speaker 1: Reveal whatever that means. Ken, But I just because you're

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Speaker 1: I understand, you're you're you're all right.

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Speaker 3: Hold on a second.

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Speaker 5: For those who weren't watching our show, here's what happened.

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Speaker 5: AJ is doing the Royals Orioles game last week.

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Speaker 1: And again there's a new pope. Wait, there's a new pope.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait, we'll finish this later. Wait no, no, go again.

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Speaker 5: All right, So what happened was AJ starts a text

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Speaker 5: His game went into a rain delay, and I said, huh,

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Speaker 5: the baseball God's got your buddy. That's why AJ is

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Speaker 1: No, they didn't get me, because I would take you

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Speaker 1: a picture. I was home in bed and you guys

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Speaker 5: Well, that was true. We had a three hour rain delay.

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Speaker 5: Very true.

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Speaker 2: These are all real things, and you get to see

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Speaker 2: in Ken's favor if I'm the jury during this epic

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Speaker 3: All right, Ken, thank you. We'll talk to you about USA.

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Speaker 1: By the way, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA new car.

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Speaker 1: The new Pope is American, so usay baby.

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Speaker 5: Well, thanks for the breaking news.

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Speaker 1: AJ.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate I.

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Speaker 3: All fled full circle, full service show.

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Speaker 7: Thank you. Ken. Thanks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's spend two.

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Speaker 2: More minutes on the pirates Kratz, I hate on them

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Speaker 2: pretty good since this show has existed.

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Speaker 3: And we all know the root of the problem.

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Speaker 2: So at some point it does feel like you're beating

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Speaker 2: a dead horse, But you can't change the owner. That's

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Speaker 2: not going to change, most likely for a while. Then

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Speaker 6: No, and the next GM has to come in and

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Speaker 6: in the minor leagues, not in the big leagues. In

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Speaker 6: you're the one that's gonna have to take the blame. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you didn't get any money, it's not your fault age.

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Speaker 3: I meant it.

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Speaker 2: I've watched probably eight to ten Pirates games this year,

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Speaker 3: Rike's you gotta spread it out. They suck.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're not the worst team in the league, but

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Speaker 1: So I just don't know what you expect out of

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Speaker 1: an old saying you can't make chicken salad out of

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Speaker 1: sucks for Chelty because he's a great dude.

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Speaker 3: He'll thrive elsewhere.

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Speaker 7: Feathers, chicken beat, what is it?

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Speaker 3: Chicken pooh for the Pirate.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, without a doubt. And especially with my busy schedule

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Speaker 2: There will be snacks that you have never heard of

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Speaker 2: Luis Castillo moves from the Mariners to the Orioles, but

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Speaker 2: it's Luis F. Castio, so there is your trade alert.

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Speaker 2: The Mariners get money, the Orioles get an arm. And

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Speaker 2: there were some discussions in the offseason, or at least

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Speaker 2: rumors flying between these two teams that maybe that deal

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Speaker 2: could have happened for the really good Louis Castillo.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the Mariners.

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Speaker 2: Are pretty glad that they didn't end up figuring something

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Speaker 2: out because right now, Aj they are humming and I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is a top five offense by most metrics at

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Speaker 2: the moment. Ken Rosenthal let off fair territory talking about

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Speaker 2: a Seattle team that's one, I think, nine straight series

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Speaker 2: in a row, first place in the AL West, off

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Speaker 2: to an awesome start. All you got to do is

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Speaker 2: sign Raddy Tulez and not put some weird plate appearance

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Speaker 2: incentives around it and screw them over at the end

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Speaker 2: of the season like the Pirates.

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Speaker 1: Mariners are doing it right now. Give them credit in

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Speaker 1: this move. I guess it helps the Oriols. They need

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Speaker 1: more arms. They're beat up big time, but no Mariners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Orioles are thirteen and twenty two. Now they've

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Speaker 2: dropped a couple here to the Twins. Another tough loss yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It's getting late early. This is the prime example of, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you can lose a season this early in the season.

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Speaker 2: You have a lot of ground to make up. The

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Speaker 2: AL East in general, Kratz is not in a great spot.

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Speaker 2: Besides the Yankees and the Red Sox.

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Speaker 7: Everybody's gonna look at the Astro. All the Astros struggled

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Speaker 7: last year.

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Speaker 6: The Astros had six years of history of making the playoffs,

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Speaker 6: making a bunch of World Series during that time.

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Speaker 7: The Oos don't have that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Kratz, you want to help us explain what happened

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Speaker 2: in the Red Sox game yesterday? Alex Korra said that

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Speaker 2: he was confused the call of the runner safe at

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Speaker 2: first stood after they went to replay. This went semi

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Speaker 2: viral on Foul Territory's Twitter account.

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Speaker 3: What did you see?

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Speaker 6: That's all play? That tanner Houck didn't set his feet

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Speaker 6: to throw. He tried to just launch it right here.

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Speaker 6: The first baseman does not have control of the baseball,

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Speaker 6: so being in the runner's lane, he becomes its interference,

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Speaker 6: and if the runner is not able to touch first base,

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Speaker 6: he is considered safe, or else you would just have

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Speaker 6: the first baseman stand in front of the base until

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Speaker 6: he gets the ball. The guy would have to run

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Speaker 6: around him or slow down. And so it's basically, I

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Speaker 6: don't know the exact verbiage, but because he was he

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Speaker 6: impeded his route to first base without having control of

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Speaker 6: the ball.

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Speaker 7: He's considered safe even though he did not touch the base.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're right. What you said was right. I

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Speaker 1: mean because people with Boston's arguing is he got the

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Speaker 1: ball back and touch the base before Wyat Langford was

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Speaker 1: able to get there, and I think it was White. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was White Langford.

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Speaker 7: They did it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, wire Lancers should have just trucked him. But

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Speaker 1: is this the problem with Boston's first basement. They don't

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Speaker 1: know what they're doing because they've never played over there, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: it goes back to that they got. I think it

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Speaker 1: was Romy Gonzalez. He's never he's really never played over there,

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Speaker 1: so this is their first basement. This is what they got.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, this is all goes back to that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they they won the game and cost me

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Speaker 1: my my over under. But that's fine.

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Speaker 6: And another thing for kids who are watching, if we

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Speaker 6: show the replay again, the ball's on the ground, don't

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Speaker 6: pick the ball up with your glove. You have a

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Speaker 6: first basement's mid especially pick it up with your bare hand.

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Speaker 6: If he picks it up with his bare hand and

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Speaker 6: his foot's on the base, he's trying to he's trying

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Speaker 6: to find it, find it right. Yeah, so yeah, it's

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Speaker 6: part of it. But this isn't I mean, it was

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Speaker 6: help throw an absolute lawn dark to him. So that's

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Speaker 6: not fair either. But actually maybe it wasn't that bad.

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Speaker 6: He was stretched inside the baseline there. Hey, everybody says,

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Speaker 6: you know what this guy struggles in the outfield, move

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Speaker 6: him the first Oh, on this catcher's off day, just

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Speaker 6: play him at first base. First base is well, it's

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Speaker 6: not a very valued position from a analytics standpoint. You

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Speaker 6: need to know how to play first base. It is

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Speaker 6: not as simple as people think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, even a week spent. If you spent

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Speaker 2: a week and you watch Christian Walker play first base

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Speaker 2: over the last five years, and then for example this season,

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Speaker 2: you watch Tristan Cossis play first base for a week,

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Speaker 2: you can see how much of an impact it makes

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Speaker 2: in a game where I don't know if numbers are

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Speaker 2: doing the position justice aj. I mean you're affecting every

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Speaker 2: ground ball essentially in the infield, And I mean if

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Speaker 2: you watch a game, you're gonna see multiple times often

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Speaker 2: per game, it make a huge difference, whether it's a pick,

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Speaker 2: it's footwork, it's position right for your second basement, how

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Speaker 2: much ground you're covering. I mean, there are some guys

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Speaker 2: that really stand out. It just it doesn't get a

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Speaker 2: lot of love from the analytics staff. It's true, right,

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Speaker 2: I know Walker discussion yesterday, but that's why watch Walker.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they signed Christian Walker versus Joseah Brady

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Speaker 1: who was there? Jose Brady could hardly when he was

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Speaker 1: there at the end. He could barely even catch a

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Speaker 1: ground ball, for get a ball in the dirt, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guys that can pick the ball aren't valuable.

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Speaker 1: You can't put a you know, we try to put

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Speaker 1: a number on everything, but you can't put a value

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Speaker 1: on guys that can pick the ball. I mean, until

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Speaker 1: someone comes up with a stat that tells me, like

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Speaker 1: this guy's a better at this or that at first base,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be undervalued. And it's a shame because the

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Speaker 1: guys that can really pick it and can hold down

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Speaker 1: that place every day and hit should be worth a

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Speaker 1: lot of money.

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Speaker 6: Outs Above average defensive runs saved are not kind to

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Speaker 6: first baseman. Christian Walker has been the best for the

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Speaker 6: last three years statistically, and he's like he I mean

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Speaker 6: he's already been eclipsed by all positions, by the best

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Speaker 6: position players at other positions. First base, the value for

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Speaker 6: you is all in your range, and you're never supposed

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Speaker 6: to go to your right if you have a second

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Speaker 6: basement that covers a lot of ground, because you're always

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Speaker 6: going to your left to cover first base. If they

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Speaker 6: put a value and I've seen teams that use data

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Speaker 6: on balls thrown to you, that is where there's so

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Speaker 6: much value. Yes, the one rate here super easy, you

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Speaker 6: should catch it, But that's like docking. A catcher who

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Speaker 6: catches the ball right down the middle for a strike, Well,

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Speaker 6: you know what, he didn't have anything to do with it.

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Speaker 6: Technically you do. And so then they created a value

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Speaker 6: around the edges for first baseman, and that value goes

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Speaker 6: through the roof when you have a guy that can

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Speaker 6: get everything because you have so many throws thrown to

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Speaker 6: you that it is a very undervalued thing to be

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Speaker 6: able to catch the ball at first base on a

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Speaker 6: consistent basis.

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Speaker 3: Why can't you run a guy over on that play?

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Speaker 1: He can, he can, but he wasn't. I mean by

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Speaker 1: Langford's too nice. He should have went back to his

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Speaker 1: Trenton High School football days and just smashing them out

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Speaker 1: of been awesome. Florida versus Miami. We know who's gonna

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Speaker 1: win that fight. You can run a catcher over still,

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Speaker 1: everyone says buster or posey rule, blah blah blah. If

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Speaker 1: the catcher is standing in the lane and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the ball. Even if he does have the ball,

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Speaker 1: you can still run over. You just cannot divert your

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Speaker 1: path out of the base path to hit the catcher anymore.

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Speaker 6: You can run him over. It's not a collision free league.

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Speaker 6: It is a almost collision free league.

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Speaker 7: Mm hm.

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Speaker 1: No, it's collision free because they don't teach guys to

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Speaker 1: go get guys anymore. So it's clear.

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Speaker 7: It used to be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I remember, you knew the guys they were

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Speaker 1: coming around third, they were coming to get you, and

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Speaker 1: that was fine. I knew it. Let's go come get

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Speaker 1: some want some Scott.

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Speaker 7: Scott would not make it me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're trying to run one of us over. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't. It wouldn't work.

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Speaker 2: I mean, also, you still have to have a brain.

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Speaker 2: I think when you know, the word now is avoidance,

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Speaker 2: but it was collision back then. But I mean, be

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Speaker 2: smart about your collision. I mean, if you're trying to

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Speaker 2: run into a huge dude and you don't have the momentum,

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Speaker 2: you might want to think twice about what you're doing. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to think about who I'm trying to truck stick.

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Speaker 2: So no, I think there's something to it. But right now,

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Speaker 2: to me, it means avoidance, right like, oh, someone's in

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Speaker 2: the way, let's avoid this, which the injury prevention part

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Speaker 2: I get. We have enough injuries in the game. It's

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Speaker 2: pretty annoying right now, So that part I understand. You know,

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Speaker 6: So for him, I know, yeah, I know him very well.

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Speaker 6: I'm super happy for him. He got one interview in

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Speaker 6: his since he's become a manager. We I mean, since

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Speaker 6: he's become a bench coach. He had gotten one interview.

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Speaker 6: Why he didn't get any others? He was like, you

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Speaker 6: know what, maybe it's gonna put myself out there enough.

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Speaker 6: They live in Pittsburgh from he married. He married, uh

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Speaker 6: Neil Walker's sister, so like there's that like Pittsburgh royalty

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Speaker 6: that they're there. And he's like, I'm so blessed to

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Speaker 6: he gets to be the manager.

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Speaker 7: I would love to see Neil Walker be his bench coach.

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Speaker 7: That would be sick.

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Speaker 3: Mmm, you might you might get involved. I could see

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Speaker 3: him being a coach some day.

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Speaker 7: No, he's on TV.

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Speaker 2: I know he's on TV. But you could still hop

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Speaker 2: from TV. Hey, Brett Boone just hopped from podcast World

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Speaker 2: to go you can.

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Speaker 1: But why would why would why would Neil Walker want

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Speaker 1: to do that?

654
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Speaker 3: Not with this team.

655
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: I mean, if your task is trying to fix this offense,

656
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: you're setting yourself up for a bad looking resume right

657
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: off the jump of your coaching career.

658
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: It's true.

659
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 6: The coaches coaches don't. Coaches don't haven issues. Bench coaches.

660
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 6: They never get to blame. It's the managers to get

661
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 6: to blame, and they didn't coaches. And the paychecks, well,

662
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 6: the pirates are the theme of the day.

663
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: So I don't want to overlook how much ship has

664
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: gone on for this franchise in the first six weeks

665
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: of the season, because sometimes even during their tanking rebuild days,

666
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: they'll start twelve and eight, people will get excited and

667
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: then I'll kill their hopes.

668
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: But this time.

669
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: Around, I mean, the on field product's bad. They're switching

670
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: the manager. I don't think that's going to make a

671
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: huge difference. They had the Roberto Clemente wall issue, the

672
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: steps or whatever that was, the bricks that they messed up,

673
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: and then.

674
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: The latest you got to google it.

675
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: We're not going to show it, but there was a

676
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: there was a big fight with an employee and some

677
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: fans that seemed like they were getting out of hand

678
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: and that's going to turn into some type of lawsuit

679
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: or something, and it was pretty bad. I don't know

680
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: all the context, but aj it is piling up. They

681
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: have had a season's worth of chaos in six weeks.

682
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: Did you talk about when the owner walked through the

683
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: stands on opening day? Did you mention that one and

684
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: then sell the team and all that you did? Forgot

685
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: about that one, but the guy the guy fell over

686
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: the rail, and I mean, wow, it was. It's been

687
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: a rough start for the Pittsburgh Pirates organization. So I

688
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe the Steelers will be better if they

689
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: traded George Pickens the Cowboys. I don't know. I just

690
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: don't know what there is to look forward to in Pittsburgh,

691
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: because especially on the Pirates side of the stadium's great

692
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: and it's wonderful and it's got great views. But they

693
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: messed up the Clemente sign. I mean, it's just one

694
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: thing after another and at some point you got to

695
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: change something and I don't know what that is, but

696
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: we all know what they say where a fishting's from?

697
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: What's up? Hey, A J.

698
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: I know you hate wins and losses, but Robbie Ray

699
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: is the first.

700
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: It's me.

701
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: Robbie Ray is the first Giants pitcher to go five

702
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: and zero the first eight starts of a season since

703
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: Tim Linsey come in twenty ten. Just wanted to give

704
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: some love to Robbie Ray. That's looking like a good

705
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: trade for the Giants right now. You can never have

706
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: enough starting pitching depths. That was a money dump move

707
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: in my mind from the Mariners a couple of years ago,

708
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: and it's really paying dividends for the Giants. Mariners are

709
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: in a great spot all for them. But I was

710
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: one that shredded that trade back then because I thought

711
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 2: that the Giants picked up a guy who went healthy.

712
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: AJ is one of the better swinging miss pitchers in baseball.

713
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 3: If you can locate.

714
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: No the whole well, no, here's the bottom line, the

715
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: rug you're righty. Does he throw it over the plate?

716
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: That's it, throw it over the plate. If he throws

717
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: it over the plate, he's really good. And that's the

718
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: big thing for him right now is his walks are down.

719
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: Is the only I mean He has twenty three walks

720
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: in forty four innings, which doesn't seem that great, but

721
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: for him, that's pretty good because he strikes out a

722
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: lot of guys. He doesn't give up a lot of contact,

723
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: hard contact. So the whole key for him is throw

724
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: it over the plate, Robbie. If he throws it over

725
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: the plate, he's usually pretty darn good. So throw it

726
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: over the plate, Robbie, you got a chance to be

727
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: really good.

728
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 6: Throwing strikes shocker on the mound, Throwing strikes his cy

729
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 6: young ear. He only had fifty two walks in one

730
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 6: hundred and ninety three innings. Other yeah, I mean he

731
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 6: was punching. He was getting seventy eighty sixty some walks.

732
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 6: It's just too many. He's got good enough stuff to

733
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 6: get outs in the zone, and that's rare in baseball.

734
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 6: If you continue to do it, that's how you win syongs.

735
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 3: For the people.

736
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's go over tipping for a moment. It

737
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: comes up every once in a while. AJ, I know

738
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: you caught John Boy breaking down some Nick Povetta tipping

739
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: that was going on.

740
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 3: So what did you see.

741
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: Well, here's my thing with this. First of all, I

742
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: don't know you guys answered this for me, and I

743
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: just want to know, is it okay for somewhere like

744
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: John Boy to call out Nick Povetta for tipping and

745
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: go through it. I don't know, because I know I've

746
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: been a part of games where I know a guy's

747
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: tipping and then we don't really talk about it, and

748
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: it's like it's one of those things where you don't

749
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: say it because you don't. And I know this is

750
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: on ex Twitter, so maybe it's a little bit different.

751
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: Before I dig into this, do you guys have an

752
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: opinion on whether it's okay for them to call this

753
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: guy out and show everybody what he's doing before someone

754
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: on a team says something.

755
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 7: I don't think it's an issue.

756
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 6: I've heard you say that before, maybe live game, when

757
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 6: you're calling a live game and you see it. To me,

758
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 6: that's kind of affecting the game or the I don't

759
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 6: want to say gamesmanshit.

760
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 7: But like you're you're in.

761
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 6: That game and if somebody has it on in the clubhouse,

762
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 6: they're like, wait, what did he say. It's kind of

763
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 6: like the whole Kenny Rodgers thing where we had the

764
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 6: had the pine tar on his hand and then the

765
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 6: next inning it was gone, like they made a big

766
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 6: deal of it. So maybe in the game I can

767
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 6: see why on Twitter or something, somebody finds it, somebody

768
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 6: tips somebody else off. To me, I don't have an

769
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 6: issue with it. It's happening. There's guys on teams that

770
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 6: are employed almost solely to do that, and they are

771
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 6: pouring over video and saying figuring out tips.

772
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: From guys exactly. So AJ, I'm pretty strong on this one.

773
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: For me, it's public domain right, like it's going on.

774
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 2: Anyone can see it. So the best people at cracking

775
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: it are, like crack said, guys that are getting paid

776
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: to do it, and then no one finds out about it.

777
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: So if I'm a pitcher, I would love for a

778
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: fan to point out that I'm tipping to catch that

779
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: instead of my division rival knowing it all season long

780
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: or the entire league knowing it all season long.

781
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: The pitcher savvy, but all the hitters are pissed because

782
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: they're like, damnit, he sold us all out. We had something.

783
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: And I mean Pavetta obviously isn't affecting him that much

784
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: because he's out to a great start, so that I

785
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just a simple question. No, let's get

786
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: back to what actually happened on the field. It was

787
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: giants and padres and Nick Pavetta's pitching. Patrick Bailey was

788
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: on second Eric six's favorite catcher, and when he grabbed

789
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: his shirt, fastball, and when he grabbed tapped his helmet

790
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: like that breaking ball. And then the pitching coach saw

791
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: it and went out to the mound like right there,

792
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: grabs his shirt, tries to do the whole light. Oh, nobody,

793
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: look at me. I'm just relaxing my arms. I'm gonna

794
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: go helmet here. Blah blah blah. Oh there we go. Well,

795
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: you know, do the arm thing like, come on, like,

796
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: don't all make it so obvious. The catcher sees it.

797
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: The pitching coach comes out, Look, let's do the old stretch,

798
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 1: eat of the arm thingy. I'm gonna give the high target. Huh,

799
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: just kidding. Breaking ball. Pitching coach Rubn Diieoblo comes out

800
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: and goes, we gotta change something up here. Brother changes

801
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: the way he loads in his glove. Patrick Bailey can't

802
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: see it. Can't do the shirt, can't do the helmet,

803
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: can't do the whole Uh, don't really look at me.

804
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: But everybody look at me while I wave my arms

805
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: around and then he punched him out and Nick Pavetta

806
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: walked off the mountain was like, hey, Patrick, good job,

807
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: you screwed your own hitter because you couldn't get that one.

808
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think it's funny, but let's

809
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: not make it so obvious. Giants like hey, guys, hey guys,

810
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: look at me, look at me right so right here,

811
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't know what's coming. He takes a heater right

812
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: down the middle. Pavetta turns right around and goes, what

813
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: you got now, bro? Again, John Boyd does a better

814
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: job of breaking it down than I just did. But

815
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 1: I don't know. Those things used to get contentious, man,

816
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: if you caught a dude. I mean, I were times

817
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: when I walked out to the mound act like I

818
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: was had the rosin bag in my hand, and I

819
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: was like, stop giving signs. We're gonna change him. You're

820
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: gonna get someone hurt, or you're someone else on your

821
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: team is gonna get hurt because we're gonna take care

822
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: of this, and that usually shut him down for a

823
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: little bit. But it's also on the picture and the

824
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: catcher to know what's going on, so good on the

825
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: Podjets for changing it up, but bad on the Giants

826
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: were just making it so damn obvious. I mean, Patrick

827
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: Bailey was the one, the one part of the video.

828
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: It's definitely worth going back and watching for everybody who

829
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: hasn't seen it.

830
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 7: He's like.

831
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 6: Trying to like look trying to look over when he

832
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 6: was holding his gloot like it wasn't even he wasn't

833
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 6: trying to hide it at all. Like that's why I

834
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 6: love I loved getting on second base. I rarely got

835
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 6: on second base, but when I did, I love like

836
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 6: moving around and like getting people to think, if you

837
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 6: can get the catcher because we didn't have mound visits

838
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 6: most of my career, get the catcher to come out

839
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 6: to change the signs. You kind of did your kind

840
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 6: of did your due diligence, you did your gamesmanship. I

841
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 6: just think it's a it's something that is part of

842
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 6: the game. And when guys would be like, hey, we're

843
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 6: gonna hit somebody, like AJ's talking about, okay, we'll hit

844
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 6: somebody if we got somebody on first, like it's always

845
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 6: gonna happen. You're gonna change your signs, And then they're

846
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 6: gonna try to relay them again. You're gonna change how

847
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 6: you're moving your feet. It's part of the game. It's

848
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 6: not just hey, throw the ball, Hey catch or catches it,

849
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 6: throw it back to the pitcher. There's stuff going on

850
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 6: all the time. And that's when you see young guys.

851
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 6: The game's speeding up on them because they're not seeing everything.

852
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 6: All they're seeing is throw the strike, catch the strike.

853
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: And from a fan perspective, that's fun for early may ball.

854
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: That's fun. Keeps things exciting in a game that otherwise,

855
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 2: you know, could be who hum during a regular season. Hey,

856
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: there's a long season kind of situation. It's fun to

857
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: pick that stuff out.

858
00:40:49,480 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: So that was good. That was fun. All right, we're

859
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: going full circle here.

860
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 2: We started off the show without knowing who the pope

861
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: would be, and now we know that the Pope is

862
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 2: I think a.

863
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: Cubs fan, even though the picture that we put here,

864
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: I don't think.

865
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: They know he's a Villanova fan. I think though didn't

866
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: he wasn't he in charge of Villanova there for a

867
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: little while the Villanova area, So he's a Villanova fan.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we've been on the show the entire time

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Speaker 3: that he's been announced, So I've done zero homework so

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Speaker 3: far in the Pope.

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Speaker 1: I just know he was born in Chicago and he

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Speaker 1: worked in Peru, which you haven't been. If you haven't

873
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: been to Peru, it's pretty awesome. Macha Picci is well

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00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: worth the visit. So but yeah, he's he's a Chicago

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Speaker 1: born in Chicago, but he worked at Villanova, I believe

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Speaker 1: for a while. You know, it's being reported he's a

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Speaker 1: Cubs fan, but you know, Cubs fans have been known

878
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Speaker 1: to get in high positions and mess it up, So

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Speaker 1: don't mess it up, Pope Leo the fourteenth. By the way,

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Speaker 1: if I was Pope, wouldn't I want to take a

881
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: name where I was the first? Like I want to

882
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Speaker 1: be the first. I don't want to be the fourteenth?

883
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Speaker 1: Like who wants to be Leo the fourteenth? Like, let's

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Speaker 1: be Pope Scott Broun the first. Yeah, let's god.

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Speaker 2: They were kings. It was you know, King Henry and

886
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,479
Speaker 2: King whatever else.

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00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: That's because they were named that by their parents. They

888
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Speaker 1: get to choose, Like I get to choose my name.

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00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: I want to be Hope whatever, the first.

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00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 6: What would your if we started? If we started ft

891
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 6: and you got to choose your name. Everybody still knew you.

892
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 6: What name would you choose?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'd stay with my name. Pope AJ the

894
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Speaker 1: number one baby, Why would I want to be the fourteen?

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Speaker 1: If anything? Yeah, Pope AJ one, Hope, that's what you won,

896
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: that's what you would be. I mean, look at Pope

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Speaker 1: John Paul. He was one of the greatest ones, but

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Speaker 1: he was the second Hope John Paul the second you

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Speaker 1: know why because he was from Poland.

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Speaker 3: JP two. But yeah, AJ would love that.

901
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: He would say AJ one, and no one else is

902
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: allowed to be called AJ.

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Speaker 1: I mean we had H two.

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Speaker 3: We already do that exactly, see exact. Good good.

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00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: Hey, if you're watching this on TV, we will see

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow for Fraser Friday. If you are watching US elsewhere,

907
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: we are staying on for a few minutes to have fun.

908
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: So seeing a second, what what what do you have

909
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: for us? Aga? I've been told you have something else?

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00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 7: Uh?

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00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you see this? The Red Sox also are

912
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: getting in on the Pope move, Smoker, indicating the Red

913
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: Sox have yet to elect a new first basement. That's

914
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: pretty funny, dude, I'm sorry, Wow, that's pretty funny.

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00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: That is good. I like that a lot. That was good.

916
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 3: I did not know what I was like.

917
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: Is that for real? What you think the cream Monster

918
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: was on flyre was on fire?

919
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 7: There's a lot going on behind there.

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00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, impossible, that's not impossible. Okay, So my my current.

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Speaker 1: Apartment, they're playing right now. So if it was on fire,

922
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Speaker 1: you would have heard about it.

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Speaker 3: It could have been this morning. Uh.

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Speaker 2: My apartment in Orlando overlooks the Orange Bowl, and at

925
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: least twice i've seen crazy.

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Speaker 7: Or the Citrusami.

927
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Speaker 3: Citrus Bowl Okay, word police, relax. It overlooks the Stitch.

928
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they don't sponsor me, so I'm calling it

929
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: the Citrus Bowl. So anyway, I've seen twice that level

930
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: of smoke emerging, not from inside, but right around that

931
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: area and the fire department and the whole thing.

932
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Speaker 1: So anyway, when you were at the that's when you

933
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Speaker 1: were at the Eed C Scott that you thought there

934
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Speaker 1: were smoke coming out of it.

935
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Speaker 7: But it wasn't smoke. It was something else that.

936
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Speaker 2: Was Yeah, that was a drone show. I don't even

937
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: think it's cool for them to smoke anymore. Anyway, krats,

938
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Speaker 2: hat's on.

939
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Speaker 3: The way out.

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00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 6: I mean we need to talk about this team a

941
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Speaker 6: little bit more often. AJ's dark horse to make the

942
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Speaker 6: playoffs this year, and they got a pretty sick hat.

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Speaker 3: What does AJ say, easiest over of the year?

944
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Speaker 1: Oh so easy. And by the way, Salvia with another hit,

945
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: just trying to back up crouches claim that he's the

946
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Speaker 1: fifth best catcher, even though I don't think. Does he

947
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: catch you tonight?

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Speaker 7: Don't matter.

949
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: It's Dhing today, so it doesn't count towards catching Dhing.

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00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 7: Logan Logan DH last night, so doesn't count.

951
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: Molly Molly DH Molly.

952
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: Co movie equality.

953
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Speaker 7: I don't care.

954
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Speaker 2: sweat token tonight. Obviously baseball games are going on for

956
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Speaker 2: a long time now.

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Speaker 3: But there's playoffs. We're aware of it, so you can

958
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Speaker 3: get on the excitement.

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