1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 3: Welcome to the John and Ken Show. John's got some 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 3: time off. I'm here with Debora Mark giving you the 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 3: news updates, and in about fifteen minutes there'll be another 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 3: keyword revealed. The CAFI Inflation Compensation Cash Contest is back. 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 3: There's a keyword coming up at two twenty, and another 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: one at three twenty, and it continues and to Tim 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 3: Conway's show until five twenty tonight. 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All right, I got a 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: lot to get to this hour, including a new report 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: out about how much is considered low income if you 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: live in California, and we'll be particularly focusing on southern California. 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: We'll talk about exactly what these calculations are and what 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: it is you're going to be considered poor if you 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: make that much money or less, and it shows you 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: just how much the cost of living has risen in 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: the States and overall in the country just in the 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: last several years. We have another one of these reports 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: out the Associated Press has done a long story about 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: fraud and in particular a pandemic relief money that started 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty under President Trump and continued into Joe 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: Biden's administration. This new number, we're going to get into 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 3: the details of it, because the headlines are talking about 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: more than two hundred billion dollars from two major pandemic 28 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: relief programs. My guest is Bob Westbrooks, a former executive 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: director of the Federal Pandemic Response Accountability Committee. It's a 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: watchdog group, and he also has a new book, Left 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 3: Holding the Bag, a watchdog's account of how Washington fumbled 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: its COVID test. Bob Westbrook's Welcome to the Johnny Ken Show. 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: Hey Ken, thank you for having me on. 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: Now let's start with this because it looks it's confusing 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: to me. There were so many programs, especially when it 36 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: came to codd relief, that can we really get a 37 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: handle on the number and what is this more than 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: two hundred billion represent in fraud? 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there were a lot of programs. There were 40 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: about four hundred and twenty different federal programs that distributed 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: pandemic aid. So the report that was out today is 42 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: from the Small Business Administration Office of Inspector General. They 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: had oversight over one of the largest portfolios in the 44 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: federal government of a lot of people know about the 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: paycheck protusion program, and then there was a parallel program 46 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: called the Economic Injury Disaster Loans. It was disaster loans 47 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: for folks. And the report out today is just our 48 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 2: latest estimate where the Inspector General is estimating that two 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars from those programs were lost to fraud. 50 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: That does not include a probably hundreds of billions in 51 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: the federal and state unemployment insurance programs that have been 52 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: reported about multiple times in all states. Men of California 53 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 2: in particular, got it pretty hard. 54 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: How did they come up with these with these estimates? 55 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: I mean, they've got to be pretty broad. And what 56 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 3: percentage of the total money spent are we're talking about here? 57 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. It's very difficult to get 58 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: these estimates, and we're going to be at the Inspector 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: General watchdock community is going to be at it a 60 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: long time. Right To have a real precise answer, you 61 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: really need to have criminal prosecutions or audits. And there's 62 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: millions of loans that went out, so it literally would 63 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: be impossible to have audits and investigations on all of those. 64 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: So you're going to see that number getting larger larger 65 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: over time as more investigations are completed and more audits 66 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: aren't completed. The estimation on the Small Business program is 67 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: about seventeen percent overall, but it's of one of those programs, 68 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: a disaster loan program I mentioned, it's about thirty three percent, 69 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: is what there the IG is estimating was lost to fraud. 70 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: When you hear that, Bob, you think, think that there 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: was really no safeguards at all. I mean, that's a 72 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: really high percentage of fraud, isn't it. 73 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: It's an unacceptably high percentage of fraud. A lot of 74 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: that was in the early days, and what I detail 75 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: in the book was just how hectic and chaotic the 76 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: first few weeks, the first few months were. But as 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: time went on, agencies, federal agencies, unless they were pushed 78 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: by their watchdogs. I didn't see a lot of evidence 79 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: of them tightening controls. And that's really what is taxpayers 80 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: which shouldn't have expected as agency tightening control when fraud 81 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: was identified, the watchdogs were reporting fraud vulnerability early, and 82 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: often like from the very beginning, like as in a 83 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: week after the Cares Acts was the big piece of 84 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: legislation that was spent pandemic money. That was in March 85 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty. Within a week there were oversight reports 86 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: out warning the American people in Congress said, Hey, unless 87 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: we tied up controls, we're going to lose a lot 88 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: of money to fraud, and in fact we did. 89 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 3: Was it a lot of aren't operators, I mean a 90 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: lot of organized theft behind this who were just waiting 91 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: for a chance like this. 92 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a great question what I have seen 93 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: throughout my time, and I was there from the very 94 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: beginning until the pandemic was winding down. You really had 95 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: three groups of fraudsters. Who had novice fraudsters that had 96 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: never been in trouble before and never would have dreamed 97 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: of committing fraud, but it was too good of an 98 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: opportunity to pass up, and so people that inexplicably just 99 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: committed low dollar fraud to get money from various programs. 100 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: We also had experienced fraudsters that you know, these are 101 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: folks that have done fraud in the past, and it 102 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 2: was an attractive, large attack surface for them. So they thought, okay, 103 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: well there's opportunities, let's take advantage of it. And then 104 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: there were professional fraudsters overseas. There were transnational groups. The 105 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: Secret Service confirmed that there was actually fraud attributed to 106 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: a group that's associated with the Chinese military. It's called 107 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: Advanced Persistent Threat APT forty one, and that's a group 108 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: that our professional hackers, that some members of the group 109 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: were actually charged with Equifax breach that happened I think 110 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. I think it was one hundred and forty 111 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: five million Americans. Personal information was stolen, and that stolen 112 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: information ended up on the dark web, and it was monetized, 113 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 2: and you had people from all over the globe would 114 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: buy your identity and my identity for the price of 115 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: a Chipotle burrito. They could buy all of your personal 116 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: information file acclaim from anywhere in the globe on some 117 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: of the programs, and in fact they did. Then we 118 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 2: organized groups and individual actors took advantage of our programs. 119 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, part of the title of your book 120 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: is how Washington fumbled its COVID test. We know here 121 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 3: in California when the pandemic hit. I'm just talking now 122 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: about our unemployment fund. It got ripped off for north 123 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 3: of thirty billion dollars because they basically suspended a lot 124 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: of the rolls and background checks because they thought people 125 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: were desperate to get money. But this went on for 126 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: far too long, and it made it far too easy. 127 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: I mean, you probably know, Bob, in California, prisoners were 128 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: filing claims. 129 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, can I detail a story in the book. This 130 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: was not in California, but it was in Massachusetts. Somebody 131 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: who had just gotten released from federal prisons for aggravated 132 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: identity theft got a job right away with the state 133 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: unemployment insurance agency. Her husband was actually serving time during 134 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: this moment in history for aggravated identity theft, and he 135 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: filed on unemployment insurance claims with the state, which she 136 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: is a contractor as a former convicts. She actually proved 137 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: the claims and they passed through. So it was it 138 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: was all over the country. California was hit hard, but 139 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: it was it was in every state. 140 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: And of course there were so many stories of people 141 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: who couldn't get any money, that couldn't either get the 142 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: application through, or that they didn't qualify or things like that. 143 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: When you look at these fraud numbers, it's hard to 144 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: believe how unbalanced this was. 145 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another great point. 146 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: We examined that and drew some attention to it when 147 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: I was the executive director of the pract Exactly right, 148 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: there were groups because the programs are set on like 149 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 4: a first come, first served basis. 150 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: The fraudsters that knew what they were doing, hit it quick. 151 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: People that were connected that knew how to play the. 152 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: Game, hit it quick. 153 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: There were a lot of small business owners that didn't 154 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: have an established relationship with their lender that were locked 155 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: out of the small business programs. On the unemployment insurance side, 156 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: their story after story of people whose identity was stolen, 157 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: a claim was filed in their name and they needed 158 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 2: the money but couldn't get it because their account was 159 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: locked and they were told that they had already filed claim. 160 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: And the unemployment insurance systems were absolutely overwhelmed with those 161 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 2: cases where they're trying to adjudicate again, and remember we're 162 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: in lockdown and forty three states in America, right, I mean, 163 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 2: this was this was crisis time in the early months, 164 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: so we're doing everything online and digitally, and people were 165 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: locked out. 166 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 4: Of being benefits. 167 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: Both unemployment in small business and other programs as well. 168 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: That's one of the points I'm making the book is 169 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: that it hit all of our programs. These were the 170 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: big three, but all of our programs were hit. 171 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: And back to the fraudsters. How much of this might 172 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 3: we recover? I mean, you have the dopey person that 173 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: took their millions that they stole from one of the 174 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: COVID relief programs and they started buying expensive cars and 175 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: going on big trips, I guess, drawing attention to themselves. 176 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: But really, when you see these stories, are they are 177 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: dropping the bucket of the money that can be recovering 178 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: the arrests that have been made, or are they getting 179 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: a lot. 180 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: Of it back? 181 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: It's hard to say. I mean the definition of a 182 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: lot that's a tough one, but I will say one. 183 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: It's probably the best win for federal law enforcement that 184 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: I can remember in a long time on the financial 185 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: proud area. The Secret Service, working with the Inspector Generals, 186 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: recovered thirty billion dollars with a b unheard of. That's 187 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: money that was obtained through fraudulent mean that they were 188 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: swift enough to identify the money sitting in banks before 189 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: it was distributed and they were able to grab that 190 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: money and return it to the treasury. So that is 191 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: one huge win. And their instances where the Secret Service 192 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: and the and the Inspector General's recovered, you know, a 193 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: couple hundred million here or there on other programs. But yeah, 194 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: you're right. The most part fraudsters that stole money, they 195 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: steal money to spend money, our tax money, right then 196 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: they don't steal it necessarily to invest it or whatever. 197 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: Although we did see some of that, and you saw 198 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: a lot too folks converging into cryptocurrency, which made it 199 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: tough for law enforcement. One of the big stories. I 200 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: think one industry that seemed to have done pretty well 201 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: was the luxury car market because in twenty twenty, it 202 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: seemed like every fraudster taking their money to go buy 203 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: a Lamborghini was calling to the Lamborghini cases. They like, 204 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: that was the first thing I would do, so, you know, 205 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: I often would say, still on the street working cases, 206 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: I would have just hung out at the dealership and 207 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: just and pulled one tags of people driving off the 208 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: lot during a global pandemic, dropping two hundred k for 209 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: brand new Lambeau. 210 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: Bob, thank you so much. For talking to me. 211 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: I appreciate it absolutely, Ken, thanks for having me on. 212 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: Bob Westbrooks a former executive director of the Federal Pandemic 213 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: Response Accountability Committee, and he's got a book that just 214 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: came out. Left holding the bag of Watchdog's account of 215 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: how Washington fumbled its COVID test. As we are still 216 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: three years plus later trying to add up how much 217 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: was stolen from federal and state governments and all the 218 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: COVID AID money that was put out there. Coming up next, well, 219 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: your chance at winning some money. That's the KFI Cash 220 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 3: Inflation Compensation Contest. Listen for the keyword when I returned. 221 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: John and Ken KFI AM six forty Live everywhere the 222 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app. 223 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 224 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 225 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: You probably just heard in some of the news headlines 226 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: they have confirmed that they have found the remains of 227 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 3: actor Julian Sands. This story takes us back to January. 228 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: He went hiking in the Mount Baldy Wilderness. I don't 229 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 3: know if it's the smartest thing to go hiking in 230 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: January in the mountains, but anyway, they had to suspend 231 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 3: the search for him because there was weather related delays. 232 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 3: They just resumed the search for him last week. He 233 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: wasn't avid hiker and mountaineer. I guess he was pretty 234 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: confident he knew what he was doing. But they took 235 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: the body out and then they took it to the 236 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: county Coroner's office for formal identification. 237 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: And the word has. 238 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 3: Come down that indeed, there's remains of actor Julian Sands 239 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: found in the wilderness of Mount Baldy. This afternoon, I'm 240 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: going to talk about it more in the three o'clock hour. 241 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 3: Republicans in Sacramento managed to get a vote on whether 242 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: or not to suspend the upcoming gas tax increase. Yes, folks, 243 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: every July one were subject to a gas tax increase. 244 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: That's all the work of a build that passed years 245 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 3: ago that we worked pretty hard to fight and to 246 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: roll back. It's an eight percent tax cycleill take effect 247 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: July one. And what the Republicans wanted to do was 248 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: get the Democrats on the record is saying yeah, they 249 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: support the gas tax increase, even though we continue to 250 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: pay horrendously high gas prices still around. 251 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 1: Five dollars or so. 252 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: So we're going to be talking to Assemblyman Jim Gallagher 253 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: after the news at three o'clock for this, but we 254 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: understand in a press release this afternoon it was a 255 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: straight party line vote and in the Assembly this was 256 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 3: the Democrats voted not to suspend the upcoming gas tax increase. 257 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: They come up with their usual excuses that we need 258 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: the money, so there you go. And of course California 259 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,359 Speaker 3: has horrendous gas prices and also gas taxes. 260 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: On most things. 261 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: Speaking of all this, a report has come out about 262 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 3: exactly you might be interested in this, what is considered 263 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: low income if you live in California. Well, the California 264 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: Department of Housing and Community Development has put out a 265 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: report for almost every county in the state. They're calculated 266 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: annually based on federal guidelines and of course median income data, 267 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: household income levels, and affordable housing calculations. So they're trying 268 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: to figure out, with all of these factors considered and 269 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: the cost of living in California, how much do you 270 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: need to make it a minimum not to be considered poor. 271 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: They of course use the euphemism low income, but you 272 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: probably would know that more well as just being poor. 273 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: They also use this to determine whether or not you're 274 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: going to get some aid affordable housing programs depending on 275 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: the number of people in your household. So according to 276 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: the data, several cities have low income limits, not equating 277 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: to even fifty percent of the area media income. 278 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: And we know that in. 279 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: Southern California, particularly in LA because we brought in a 280 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: lot of cheap immigrant labor, we still had people that 281 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: have not been able to climb very far up the 282 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: economic ladder. So the amount that's considered low income and 283 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: this is for a single person household in the state. Okay, 284 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: one person. Because you hear these numbers, you might think, oh, 285 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: that's a family of two or three. 286 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: It's not. 287 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: It's a single person household. In Los Angeles County, it's 288 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: almost seventy one thousand dollars. If you bring in less 289 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: than that in income, then you're a single family household, 290 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: single person, you're considered poor. That's where we are today 291 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: with the cost of living and inflation, seventy one thousand dollars. 292 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: If you're an Orange County it's even high. It's eighty thousand, 293 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: four hundred dollars. And we hear all the time about 294 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: how it's tough for people to find housing in Orange 295 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: County because of some of the high costs there, so 296 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: they end up working way out there in the Inland 297 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: Empire and hop on that horrendous ninety one Freeway to 298 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: go to work. They would probably like to live in 299 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: Orange County as well. But as you can see, if 300 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: you make less than eighty thousand, four hundred dollars as 301 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: a single person household in Orange County, they're calling you poor. 302 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: All right. 303 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: The word they're using is low income, but they're calling 304 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: you poor. Significantly lower out in Riverside County, and now 305 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: you see the difference of why people end up living 306 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: there and commuting back only fifty two thousand, two hundred. 307 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: It's still money, a lot of money would in Santa 308 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: Barbara County as the big winner eighty three thousand dollars 309 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: if you live in Santa Barbara County and you're a 310 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: single person household and you're considered poor if you don't 311 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: make more than that. San Diego County is at seventy 312 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: seven thousand, two hundred and in Ventura County seventy four thousand, 313 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 3: four hundred. The highest numbers I can find in this report. 314 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: You can probably guess where they are around the Bay 315 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: area Marin County. It's in Marin County. If you don't 316 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: make one hundred and five thousand dollars, you're considered poor 317 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: for a single person household. San Francisco County it's about 318 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: the same amount. One hundred and four thousand, four hundred 319 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 3: San Mateo County around the same amount. And now we're 320 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: talking as we head back into areas that are considered 321 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 3: part of Silicon Valley. 322 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: That's how much you made to you need to make 323 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: not to be considered really poor. 324 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: All right, I got more coming up in the John 325 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: and Ken Show KFI AM six forty. 326 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 327 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 328 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 329 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 3: If you cannot listen to the show live, you can 330 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: always pick up on the iHeartRadio app. The podcast John 331 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: and Ken on Demand would be posted up just after 332 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: four o'clock. You can also find it at KFI AM 333 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: six forty dot com. Another chart is coming your way 334 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: in the three o'clock hour around three twenty b. Listening 335 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,239 Speaker 3: for that word follow the directions you could win one 336 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: thousand dollars here on KFI. As I just mentioned the 337 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 3: California State Assembly. 338 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: All of them voted. 339 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 3: The Republicans as few as there are there are eighty 340 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: members of the State Assembly. I don't even know what 341 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: number of Republicans now, but it's pretty low. They manage, though, 342 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: to get a vote by every member of the Assembly 343 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: on whether or not to suspend the gas tax increase. 344 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: It's coming July first. It's going to be an increase 345 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 3: in the California gas taxuse that was implemented years ago. 346 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: It comes in every July one. They tried this last 347 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: year too, to no avail, and they tried it again 348 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 3: today and they got everybody to vote, and apparently party line, 349 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 3: we're going to have a gas tax increase coming on 350 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: July first of about eight percent in your gas tax, 351 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 3: not your gas prices, but the gas tax, the California 352 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 3: gas tax portion of your gas price. 353 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: Will go up by eight percent. 354 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: So we're going to talk to a state Assembly member 355 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 3: coming up after the news at three o'clock for more 356 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: details on this story. You know, I had mentioned yesterday 357 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 3: that I dragged Deborah Mark into this that I basically 358 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 3: saw a sea lion going down on the beach. 359 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: This was in Redondo Beach, May and I don't know this. 360 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: For a fact, have been affected by the algae that's 361 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: been out in the ocean that's poisoning some of the 362 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: sea life, including the sea lions and the dolphins. But 363 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: I guess there's an update today debor Mark that maybe 364 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 3: they're going to put in more resources to try to 365 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: take these mammals into some stranding centers and try to 366 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 3: work on them. 367 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 6: Yes, which is kind of what we were talking about 368 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 6: right Well, we were saying that more people needed to volunteer, 369 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 6: but yes, and one of those places is one of 370 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 6: the LA School district is having a place where they 371 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 6: can do that as well. So that's a good update. 372 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 6: But we're still seeing more of these animals dying, getting sick, 373 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 6: very sad. 374 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 7: Well, we just lost ken. 375 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: Hold on second. 376 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 6: Okay, so what ken is talking about is what we 377 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 6: were talking about yesterday, which is a lot of these 378 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 6: sea lions have been dying from this toxic algal bloom 379 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 6: and the problem is. 380 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 7: Too many of them are dying. 381 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 6: So many of them are dying that we just don't 382 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 6: have enough people and enough resources to treat them. But 383 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 6: Marine Mammal Care Centers John Warner says this sixty lions 384 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 6: are washing up on popular beaches and frightening visitors. But 385 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 6: there is a care center and they're currently treating more 386 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 6: than sixty sea lions, and we also are hearing that 387 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 6: there's other places that are opening up as well. 388 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: Ken, Yeah, well, what I experienced, and you were frush 389 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: because I didn't run down there and I carry this 390 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: sea lion off for help, but they had cordoned off 391 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: the area around the beach. It was flopping around, and 392 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 3: when I returned on my walk, it was dead. And 393 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: I speculated that they don't have enough facilities to take 394 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: these these sea lions in to give them any kind 395 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: of treatment for this poison. And I think that's what's 396 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 3: been proven in this story, that they're looking to expand 397 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: whatever healthcare they can give them to perhaps save some 398 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: of them, because it really is it is frustrating to 399 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: see this. I mean, you know, honestly, it's a creature 400 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 3: that's in distress. But if they don't have the resources, 401 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: there's really nothing they can do. But supposed that they're 402 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 3: going to get a little help. I was surprised to 403 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: hear you said it was LA Unified. 404 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, the LA School District has expanded land on a 405 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 6: marine care center. 406 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 7: So it's going to be an extra treatment space. 407 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: But who knew LA Unified has its marine care center. 408 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: Guess I'd never heard of that. 409 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 6: I haven't either, But that was the that's the update 410 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 6: that came out today. 411 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: Now, now a different sea creature is the killer whale. 412 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 3: Have you heard what the orcas are doing around the globe? 413 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 3: They are bumping into boats. This is popping up in 414 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 3: different places around the globe. The one story I see 415 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 3: here was a group of orcas around the Strait of 416 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: Gibraltar have apparently been bumping, pushing, and read directing all 417 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 3: sorts of boats, sometimes tearing the rudders. So speculation is 418 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: running rampant. The El Segundo Times did a story. The 419 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 3: headline is is ramming yachts just a way for killer 420 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: whales to spout off? Experts doubt it's revenge for human's mistreatment. Now, you, 421 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 3: being an animal creature lover y debor Mark, might buy 422 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 3: into the theory that they've had enough of the abuse 423 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: whale hunting and sticking them in places like SeaWorld. They're 424 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: now out there bumping boats as revenge to get back 425 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 3: at humans. 426 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: Yes, you think that's possible. 427 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 7: They're saying stay away, leave us alone. Goodbye. 428 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: Well. 429 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: The story here is a couple of sailboats were competing 430 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: in a long haul sailing competition. They ran into three 431 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 3: of these orcas in the Atlantic Ocean west of Gibraltar. 432 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 3: They pushed at the boats, they nudged the runners underneath. 433 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 3: One rammed the boat but caused no damage. The head 434 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 3: of one of those sailboats said they came straight at 435 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 3: the vessel and aimed for the rudders. And there's actually 436 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 3: video that shows three killer whales. 437 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: In the water. 438 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: One said, it's very impressive to see these wonderful animals 439 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 3: appear all of a sudden and be so close to 440 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: them at the same time. 441 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: It's frightening. 442 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 3: The crew stopped the boat, which is not good in 443 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 3: a racing competition, and waited for the whales to become bored, 444 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: which leads to the main theory is they're just playing around. 445 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 3: I remember I took a trip to New Zealand and 446 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 3: I took a cruise down one of the sounds of 447 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 3: Milford Sound, which is a pretty big destination there, and 448 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 3: the dolphins started following the boat. They were right there, 449 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 3: swimming alongside the big cruise boat down down the river. 450 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: Just because they were very curious, which is what they think. 451 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 3: These could be younger whales who are just imitating other behavior. 452 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: The fact that it's happening in different places is a 453 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 3: little weird, but sometimes and they're pretty smart creatures. I mean, 454 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: they're mammals too. They're not as smart as human beings. 455 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 3: And I never want to put creatures on pedestals the 456 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: way some people do that. 457 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: They're the same as us. 458 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 3: But they do learn behaviors, they imitate behaviors. There was 459 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 3: a story in the El Segundo Times version of this 460 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: that apparently a number of years ago, a female orca 461 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: decided to because they like to play or I'll tell. 462 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: You on this story, which is kind of creepy. You're 463 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: not gonna like it. 464 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 3: But she apparently put a salmon on top of her 465 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: head and swam around, and they all started doing this 466 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 3: for a while. In the area where the orcers were 467 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 3: hanging out, the other orcers put a salmon on the 468 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: top of their head and swam around. They were imitating 469 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: her behavior and something else. I've seen it, and actually 470 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: you see it in some of these wildlife shows that run. 471 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: Sometimes the orcers just like to play with the creatures 472 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 3: that they encounter in the ocean, like the sea lions, 473 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: and they just start bouncing them back and forth like 474 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: a ball. Have you ever seen videos of that. 475 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: No. 476 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 6: I refuse to watch anything like that because I'm always 477 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 6: afraid that there's a fight that's going to break out 478 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 6: or someone's going to eat something. 479 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: I just yeah, because apparently in a long term study 480 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: of Wales orcas particular, they are observed playing with each 481 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 3: other and with objects in their environment. They're curious, they're bored, 482 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 3: they look for something to do. And orcas, of course 483 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: are part of the dolphin family, and they're smaller relatives. 484 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 3: Sometimes like the cruise alongside a fast moving boat, as 485 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: I said before, So this could just be the case 486 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 3: of this is all breaking out at once because it's 487 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 3: just don't know, spring, summer, and the orcers are busy 488 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: out there on the waters and they're just curious and 489 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 3: there's see the boats and they think it might be 490 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: funny to ram the boat. But as I mentioned, it's 491 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 3: also popular online that people think this is some element 492 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: of revenge. 493 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 7: I like that. I think that's much more interesting. 494 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 3: That they're tired of being used by the human beings 495 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: and what they've come together in some big conclaim, let's 496 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 3: go out there and see if we can't capsize some 497 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 3: of the humans out of their boats, mess up their lives, 498 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: and send a message. Yes, you think that's actually possible. 499 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: I do. 500 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 6: And that's how they're They're enjoying their time, so they're bored, 501 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 6: and so they came up with a plan. 502 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 7: And I think this was their plan. 503 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 3: To let humans know, leave us alone, don't put us 504 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 3: in your shows, don't try to hunt us or anything 505 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: like that. 506 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: I mean, there are incredible creatures. Did you ever you ever. 507 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 3: Go to those places where you can see the killer 508 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: whales up closed, like I mean, I have. 509 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 6: I have in the past, but I don't like when 510 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 6: they're confined, so it obsessed me. 511 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 7: But I have in the past. 512 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: Yes, they seem happy in there. 513 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 7: What are they gonna do? 514 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: They're well fed and they're well cared for, or I 515 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 3: realize the environment is smaller, which when you're a creature, 516 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: that size can be kind of limiting. But they are remarkable, 517 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 3: and in fact, the stories make it very clear they rarely, 518 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 3: rarely ever attack humans except Debra Mark and you probably 519 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: guessed it in these amusement parks. That's probably the only 520 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: time in history where human beings the trainers have sometimes 521 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: been attacked them. There was a bunch of those stories 522 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 3: a few years back of whale trainers being attacked at 523 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 3: some of these marine parks. 524 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 7: Right because they want to be free. They don't want 525 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 7: to be confined. 526 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 6: So that's their way of saying, hey, put me back 527 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 6: in the ocean. 528 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 529 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 3: Well, I mean they're like us, human beings that live 530 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 3: in the same household. Sometimes they kill each other. It 531 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: doesn't happen very often, but it happens same thing with 532 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: the whales. They look around, it's like, I'm just tired 533 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: of this person, you're ordering me around, running my life. 534 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: I think I'll just drag them under water and drown them. 535 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 3: But it doesn't really happen too much in the open water, 536 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 3: and in none of these cases was any human being hurt. 537 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 3: They just apparently they get bored after a while and 538 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 3: they swim away. They just ram the boat, play around, 539 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 3: and then they kind of swim off. 540 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: It's just something to. 541 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 3: Do for a while, and a long boring life out 542 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: in the ocean. All right, More coming up, John and 543 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 3: Ken kfi am six forty. 544 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 545 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 546 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 547 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: Well, I told you this hour that the gas tax 548 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: increase coming our way July first is going to happen. 549 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 3: The legislature did vote, the State Assembly on a proposal 550 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: by the Republicans to suspend the gas tax increase. It's 551 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: not going to happen. They voted by party line to 552 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: continue ahead with raising your gas taxes July first. It's 553 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: expected to bring in an additional six hundred million dollars, 554 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: and of course the response is going to be, well, 555 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: we're in a deficit, which is another weird thing that 556 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: they passed a budget, but they had a thirty almost 557 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: thirty two billion dollar deficit. Now it looks like they 558 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: just played some budget games. I couldn't figure out exactly 559 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: what they did, but it's like they just kind of 560 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: flopped money around to try to cover up the whole. 561 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: Of course, they spend over three hundred billion, so that's 562 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: not even a ten percent deficit portion of that. 563 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: Anyway. I'll be talking to. 564 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 3: Assembly Member James Gallagher after the news at three o'clock 565 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: on this story. Also next hour. Ah, another holiday fun 566 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: thing is not gonna happen this year for people in 567 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 3: a certain place in southern California who may be used 568 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: to the tradition will tell you what that is. But 569 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: it's all once again about trying to reduce quote pollution. 570 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: All right, we'll bring you the story coming up also 571 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: after we talk to assembly Member James Gallagher after the 572 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 3: news at three o'clock. Of course, a lot of noise 573 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: is being made today that the actual audio recording of 574 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: former President Trump admit that he had highly classified documents 575 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 3: in his possession which he was not supposed to have 576 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: have been made public. They were picked up by a 577 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: couple of news outlets and played. I mean, it's clear, 578 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 3: and the case against him for having boxes of unclassified documents, 579 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 3: it's a pretty good get and be tough to beat 580 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 3: that in case in court. Honestly, personally a box of documents, 581 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: all right, it's a violation. But is this really what 582 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: the whole world should be riveted on that somebody took 583 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: a box of documents, even it's sensitive information, And of 584 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 3: course he had it for a while. 585 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: He hasn't been president since early twenty twenty one. 586 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 3: So the story that of course doesn't get much coverage 587 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: is Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's son, And the reason that 588 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 3: this is important is that Joe Biden may be involved 589 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: in helping Hunter Biden rake in millions and millions of 590 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 3: dollars and what they call influence pedaling. Basically, Hunter Biden, 591 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 3: who has no known skills that I've been able to discern, 592 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 3: he ends up on gas company boards like Barisma in Ukraine, 593 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 3: and he's paid money to serve on a board for 594 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: what oh I see, because Joe was vice president and 595 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 3: it might be good to have the sun around in 596 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: case we need something. 597 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: That's all it is. 598 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 3: People in Chinese companies were big on this. They'd Hunter, 599 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: they'd hire Hunter Biden for something just because they want 600 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 3: access to. 601 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden should they need that someday. That's really what 602 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: this is all about. 603 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: So there is a couple of irs whistleblowers who were 604 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 3: testifying before Republicans. Since Republicans control the House of Representatives, 605 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 3: they can control the agenda of what the committees talk about, 606 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 3: and they're looking into this. It's not getting a lot 607 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: of media coverage, but they're finding out day by day 608 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: more stuff about the Bidens, in particular Hunter Biden and 609 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: his taxes and what he was trying to conceal and 610 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 3: his income and everything that leads back to the big guy, 611 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: who is Joe Biden. Now, an amusing side story to 612 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 3: this brings us to the time that Hunter Biden lived 613 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: in southern California while the Vice President's son, and of 614 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: course you know by now he had severe drug problems. 615 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 4: But. 616 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: He also apparently belonged to a sex club. Liliam was here. 617 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: Now we bring on Debora Mark, who must be familiar 618 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 3: with this because she lives with the wealthy West Siders 619 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 3: and the Valley and this is called Have you heard 620 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 3: about this club? Do you ever see the movie Eyes 621 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: Wide Shot with Tom Cruise? 622 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, came out. 623 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that was a long time ago. 624 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 3: It was a long time ago. I guess he was 625 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: still with Nicole Kidman then I think he was. Yes, 626 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: it's called s NC t M, so they took out 627 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: the vowels, I guess because it's probably it stands for Sanctum. 628 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: I guess it does. 629 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 3: But that's the official name of it. It's an underground 630 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 3: sex club for wealthy people. And one of the guys 631 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: that founded the club, he did this in twenty thirteen. 632 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 3: He wanted LA's elite. Supposedly this involved wealthy people's celebrities, 633 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: high ranking business of figures, oh city officials too, who 634 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: would be able to go to certain secret places and 635 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 3: I guess engaged in orgies or sex with people, and 636 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 3: the idea would be that they all had been screened 637 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 3: very carefully, So you're not going to get somebody maybe 638 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: with venereal disease, or you're not going to get somebody 639 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: that's riff raff. 640 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna be. 641 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 3: With other I guess elite people in a private setting. 642 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: Is that appealing to you, Deborah, Uh No, not really. 643 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 7: Okay, I'm not a member, just putting it out there. 644 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 3: And I guess it's still around. The guy that co 645 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: founded it or founded it is Damon Lahner. 646 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: He sold it. He sold it in twenty nineteen. I 647 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: wonder how much he sold it for. 648 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 3: But he got into the news when it came to 649 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden because he told the world that Hunter Biden 650 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 3: was a member, and that's a no no. So Lawnder 651 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 3: got kicked out. You cannot reveal the identity of other 652 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 3: members of the secret sex Club. That's something else that 653 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 3: they protect very closely. 654 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 6: Oh, by the way, Ken he sold it in twenty 655 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 6: nineteen for only a million dollars. 656 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: Oh that's it. Yeah, I guess it's truly just a list, right. 657 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 3: I think they don't think they own a lot of property. 658 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 3: They probably just have places they rent out to bring 659 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 3: all the wealthy together to roll around naked in the dark. 660 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 3: So he is now telling everybody that he's now gotten 661 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 3: a lifetime ban. He cannot come back into the sex 662 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 3: club because he revealed that Hunter was a member. But 663 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 3: now we'll tell you that Hunter Biden was a member 664 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: very briefly, because according to Lawner, he acted disgusting, like 665 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 3: a gross pig. The other thing about this, which I 666 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 3: guess you could figure, is that they have rules that 667 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 3: you're not to touch anybody unless they consent, right, you 668 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 3: know't just go in there and start groping around, take 669 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 3: off all your clothes and groping around people. So according 670 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 3: to Lawner, Hunter Biden, this shouldn't be surprising because this 671 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: guy really is made. 672 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 7: You didn't follow the rules. 673 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 3: No, Apparently he went around groping some of the women 674 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 3: right away, and he dropped out after one He canceled 675 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 3: his membership after one party, as Lawner put it, because 676 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 3: he's a scumbag. That's what he put on Instagram and 677 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 3: it since got deleted. The reason this came out just 678 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 3: last week is because Hunter Biden just got that deal 679 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 3: with the Justice Department over those criminal charges involving his 680 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 3: taxes and his gun ownership. So this guy lawner decided 681 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 3: to take revenge. I guess for Hunter Biden getting away 682 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 3: with this by revealing that he was a member of 683 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 3: the sex club. He said, posting what I did on 684 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 3: Instagram about Hunter was letting people know that the type 685 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 3: of behavior that he exhibited was something that upsets me. 686 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 3: I know that the consequences could be me not being 687 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 3: a part of Sanctum anymore, but I was willing to 688 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 3: take the risk. 689 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: He said. He wasn't really phased by the band. He 690 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: really doesn't want any part in the club anymore, but 691 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: he always sold it for a million dollars, so I 692 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: guess the membership changes. 693 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,479 Speaker 3: The spokesperson for Sanctum said, we uphold a strict code 694 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: of contact conduct to protect our members safety and privacy. 695 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 3: Any infringement leads to a lifetime ban, and as I mentioned, 696 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 3: he got the idea from this from watching the movie 697 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 3: Eyes Wide Shut. 698 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: Because if you do recall that was what was. 699 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 3: Going on in there, So I guess he just decided 700 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 3: he didn't like the preferential treatment that Hunter Biden got, 701 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 3: so he thought he'd throw out that he was a 702 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 3: member of the isn't really surprising he was a member 703 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 3: of a private, high end sex club when he was 704 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: in Los Angeles? And is it also surprising he was 705 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 3: only the member for one party because he acted like 706 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 3: a gross pig, because that's exactly what he is, a 707 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: reject and a gross pig. All right, when I come back, 708 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 3: I got a lot to get into. But around three twenty, 709 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 3: there'll be a keyword. You pick up on the keyword, 710 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 3: you follow the directions, you enter it, you could win 711 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 3: one thousand dollars. It's kfi's inflation compensation contest, which is 712 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 3: back right before that, though, I have a chance to 713 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 3: talk to an assembly member Republican James Gallagher is coming 714 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 3: on the show. The one thing they managed, and the 715 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 3: Republicans and Sacramento can't manage much anymore, but they managed 716 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 3: to get a floor vote on whether or not to 717 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 3: let the July first gas tax increase go into effect 718 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 3: or to suspend it to give you some relief from 719 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 3: our ever present high gas prices. Well, they got the vote. 720 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 3: You can probably guess what happened. We'll talk about it next. 721 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 3: Johnny KENKFI AM six forty live everywhere, it's the iHeartRadio app. 722 00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: De never Mark with the news. 723 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 3: Now, Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 724 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 3: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six 725 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 3: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 726 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 3: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.