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Speaker 1: But it's John McClain from the Houston Chronicle, the general

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Speaker 1: and have podcasts up there. I'm taking it easy this week,

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Speaker 1: and because of the Cully thing, took me a long

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Speaker 1: time to write it because I wanted to be justified

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Speaker 1: how good he was talking and what a great character

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Speaker 1: his dad, unless he's Grant Cully was. And I hope

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Speaker 1: I know when people read your website and listening to

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Speaker 1: you guys, they hear some great things about David Culley,

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Speaker 1: and there's just gonna be more. I just can't tell

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Speaker 1: you how much I respect that man. Thank you so much, General,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you having you on as always. Thank you, guys,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you both have a happy Father's Day.

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Speaker 1: You have a great weekend, General. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: I think one big problem in my life is I

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Speaker 1: don't have a name like Ulysses. Ulysses. If I had

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Speaker 1: a name like that, Johnny, that would here. Yes, that's it.

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Speaker 1: I should have named my kid. Ulysses are one of them.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do this next more likely to happen.

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Speaker 1: I've got Texans stats stuff I've got other NFL teams,

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Speaker 1: how are they gonna do? And other things that are

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Speaker 1: All Access. Let's do it, Mark Vandamir John Harris with

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Speaker 1: you and Johnny. You're ready to play the game that

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Speaker 1: has taken over the world a long time ago. Actually

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Speaker 1: it's called more likely to happen. You're ready for yes,

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Speaker 1: let's go, all right, let's do this. Were more likely

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Speaker 1: to happen. We've got a lot of them, all right,

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Speaker 1: So sacks for the Houston Texans. This year sacks for

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Speaker 1: the Texans in twenty twenty one? Who leads them and

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Speaker 1: will it be wit, Will it be Jacob Martin, Will

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Speaker 1: it be Shack Lawson or a player X more likely

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Speaker 1: to get the most sacks for the Houston Texans. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go out on a crazy limb and say John

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Speaker 1: Grenard that I'm I know, I'm out of I just

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Speaker 1: feel like he's a guy. Just the way he's built.

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Speaker 1: I think he can make that transition down putting his

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Speaker 1: hand on the ground and rushing the quarterback. And look,

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Speaker 1: there may be times where he, you know it, will

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Speaker 1: stand up and play out on the edge. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's that you can. You know, sometimes you can do

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Speaker 1: that when you know it's a pass rushdown. You just

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Speaker 1: do what you're more comfortable doing. I'm going out on

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Speaker 1: a crazy limb and saying John Grenard, how about along

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Speaker 1: those lines? Mark? Last year JJ led the team with

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Speaker 1: five sacks, right, I was doing my hairs one hundred

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Speaker 1: the best players the Texas will face a twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one How many players do you think the Texans will

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Speaker 1: face this year that had more sacks than JJ did

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Speaker 1: last year? The leader of the Texans, Oh give me

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Speaker 1: that number twenty five twenty five. I was hoping it

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Speaker 1: was gonna be lower, twenty not all twenty. I thought

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Speaker 1: you were gonna make me feel better. No, the now,

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Speaker 1: not all twenty five made my Harris one hundred, but

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Speaker 1: twenty five players that the Texans will face this year

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Speaker 1: had five and a half sacks or more, which leads

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Speaker 1: to one side of it. Texas are faces some pretty

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Speaker 1: good edge rushers this year and just pass rushers in general.

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Speaker 1: The other side of it is holy cow, more dudes.

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Speaker 1: You got to get to the quarterback, and I think

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Speaker 1: Johpan Grenard's second year, I think he's gonna take a

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Speaker 1: significant step. I think Charles a man who playing the majority,

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Speaker 1: I would think of his first and second down outside,

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Speaker 1: maybe rushing from the inside, which I think could suit

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Speaker 1: him very well. That I think will lead to even

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Speaker 1: more production from him. I think bringing in Jordan Jenkins

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Speaker 1: gets production from him. I think Whitney Lovey Smith talked

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Speaker 1: about him losing weight and just getting back to where

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Speaker 1: he was in twenty nineteen. I think there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a significant change in the past rush such that even

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Speaker 1: if we don't have a guy that has nineteen or twenty.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully they're gonna be three to four guys that have

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Speaker 1: got at least six and a half or more that

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Speaker 1: we can get to a number where Okay, these guys

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Speaker 1: are getting to the quarterback fairly regularly. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: with John Gernard, though, I think I think fifty two

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Speaker 1: is ready to take a step forward. So that's the

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Speaker 1: guy I'm going with as being the one who finishes

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Speaker 1: with the most sacks this year. That'd be nice. Let's

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Speaker 1: get the pressure, you know, like Adrey always points out,

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Speaker 1: the pressure is just as good, if not better. You're

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Speaker 1: forcing bad throws, maybe get some turnovers. I mean last

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Speaker 1: year didn't get sacks, didn't get turnovers, and not good

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Speaker 1: against the run. That's a bad trifecta right there. I

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Speaker 1: think this year they will be better against the run.

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Speaker 1: That should help you get in more long down distant

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Speaker 1: situations defensively and enable you to maybe get after the

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Speaker 1: quarterback better. But again it remains to be seen. They'll

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Speaker 1: have to put it together. Let's get to the next

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Speaker 1: one here to happen, right, more likely to be second

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Speaker 1: on the team and receptions. I think I gave this

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Speaker 1: one to you like two or three months ago, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it again. More likely to be second

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Speaker 1: on the team in receptions. I figure that cooks his first.

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Speaker 1: I'll go Cobb, David Johnson, Jordan Aikins or player X.

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Speaker 1: Who do you got? Instantly my mind went to Jordan

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Speaker 1: Nakins and I forgot about Randall Cobb. I think Randall Cobb.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see Random now. I want to see Random,

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Speaker 1: you know, have a great second year. But he's obviously

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Speaker 1: nobody's getting younger, but a little bit older in his thirties,

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Speaker 1: and he's coming off a foot injury. So a guy

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Speaker 1: you didn't mention who I think could end up being

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Speaker 1: one of those guys is Kiki ut I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Keky gets the second, but I could. I mean,

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Speaker 1: through seventeen games, could you see Keki catching in three

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Speaker 1: four balls in a game? I mean you're talking at

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Speaker 1: that point somewhere between fifty one and sixty eight. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about sixty catches a year. That's shoot, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty close to being number two in the mix. Now,

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Speaker 1: Keky's gotta stay healthy for seventeen games, and then he's

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Speaker 1: got to make sure he's available out on routes and

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Speaker 1: those kind of things. But I think I've said this

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Speaker 1: before about about Tarad. He's a guy that he's not

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Speaker 1: scared to take easy profit for a second down. If

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Speaker 1: you give him speed out, you give him the snager out,

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Speaker 1: you give him the short stuff, he's gonna take it.

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Speaker 1: And that's gonna be Jordan Nakins, that's gonna be Kekey Qt,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be Randall Cobb. So I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 1: to see those guys have a leg up on being

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Speaker 1: number two, and David Johnson as well. But I think

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Speaker 1: with what they have at the running back position, I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna be able to the carries and the

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Speaker 1: receptions are gonna really spread themselves out amongst three, maybe

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Speaker 1: even four guys. I know General said they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to get the three running backs. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they have to get to three. I

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Speaker 1: think if they have four, they're gonna find a way

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Speaker 1: to get all four involved. We've seen teams that have,

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Speaker 1: you know, David Cully teams in Baltimore, Buffalo. We've seen

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Speaker 1: the Cio teams in New England use three and four

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Speaker 1: running backs and use them all pretty effectively. But I

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Speaker 1: think I would lean Cob QT than Aikins for number two.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be pretty close. I could see

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Speaker 1: Brandon getting back up in that seventy five eighty number

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Speaker 1: for sure, you know, averaging four to five catches per game.

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Speaker 1: I could see that next group. I could see forty

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Speaker 1: five to fifty five amongst two three guys, and I

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Speaker 1: think those three guys are Cob QT and Aikins. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give Randall just a little bit of an edge,

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Speaker 1: but I do think that KEKQT cannot be forgotten about this,

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Speaker 1: considering the different ways that they can find to get

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Speaker 1: in the football. I mean a little push passes, he

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Speaker 1: goes in jet motion. That's a reception, so they can

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Speaker 1: have five to seven of those to add to his told.

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Speaker 1: So I think You's gonna be in that mix as well.

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Speaker 1: So I think Coby Q T're gonna be very very

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Speaker 1: close to one another. QT will have to be super

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Speaker 1: crisp in the route running. Taylor is going to demand it. Remember,

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Speaker 1: and anybody go ahead, just google highlights folks of Torod

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Speaker 1: Taylor playing the ball is out fast. He doesn't hang

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Speaker 1: around on the pocket and wait for things to develop.

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Speaker 1: He's going, as you said, for the first guy with

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Speaker 1: the same jersey who's open, he's gonna he's gonna hit him,

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Speaker 1: and that's a good thing. He does not turn the

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Speaker 1: ball over. This is good. But you've got to be

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Speaker 1: able to run the football. So we'll see if that

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Speaker 1: all works together. Johnny, Let's keep it going. Here on

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Speaker 1: more likely to happen. That was a good one, More

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Speaker 1: likely to happen. All right, let's go teams here more

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Speaker 1: likely to take a step back in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: as a team, the Cleveland Browns that's the Week two opponent,

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Speaker 1: or the Indianapolis Colts. Who's more likely to take a

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Speaker 1: step back in twenty twenty one? Yikes, man, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you you know, you know how I feel about the Browns.

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Speaker 1: I think the Browns are are loaded talent wise. And

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Speaker 1: it's it's an interesting comparison because it really comes back

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Speaker 1: to the two signal callers because when you look at it,

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Speaker 1: outstanding offensive lines for both. The receiver groups are extremely skilled,

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Speaker 1: probably a little bit more in Cleveland than Indianapolis, but

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Speaker 1: the past catcher groups just across the board are good

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Speaker 1: multi running back threats on both sides defensive front talent

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Speaker 1: as can be. I don't think the Browns have a

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Speaker 1: linebacker like Darius Leonard, so that's maybe that's maybe a difference.

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Speaker 1: But the secondaries are pretty similar. I think the corners

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Speaker 1: are better in Cleveland, but overall, the secondaries pretty good

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, They're very similar. When they come back to

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Speaker 1: the question marks at quarterback, and I think the quarterback

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Speaker 1: question mark is lesser with Baker Mayfield than it is

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Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz going to new team team. He's coming

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Speaker 1: off just a completely horrid year. Can he get it

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Speaker 1: going back in the right direction, because when he started

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Speaker 1: thinking about Carson Wentz, he had more years closer to

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Speaker 1: what he did last year than he did playing at

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Speaker 1: a high MVP level. Baker Mayfields had two pretty solid

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Speaker 1: years in the NFL and one allows a year in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen when the coaching was not at a level

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Speaker 1: across the board than it was last year with Kevin

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Speaker 1: Stefanski and what his offensive scheme was gonna bring. I

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Speaker 1: think it's the Colts because I think Carson Wentz goes

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Speaker 1: down the tubes in any way, shape or form, whether

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Speaker 1: he goes down hurt, injured, whether he just can't find it.

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Speaker 1: He just can't find the strike zone. If you will,

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Speaker 1: I think the Colts will step back from that ten

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Speaker 1: win team they were last the wild card team they

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Speaker 1: were last year, and they'll be eight and nine. They'll

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Speaker 1: be seven and ten if they can't get that out

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Speaker 1: of wins. I think the Browns, even if they don't

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Speaker 1: get the top notch out of Baker, they're still gonna

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Speaker 1: get good enough and that running game is good enough

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Speaker 1: to fill in the gaps. So I think the team

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Speaker 1: more likely to take a dip would be the Colts. Well,

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is always a tough out. Baltimore, Hey, it's Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: and the Bengals should be better and they are in

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Speaker 1: our final one here, more likely to happen, more likely

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Speaker 1: to take a big step forward? Is it the Bengals

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Speaker 1: or the Jacksonville Jaguars? Who's more likely to take a

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Speaker 1: big step forward in twenty twenty one? My gut tells

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Speaker 1: me the Bengals. But part of that is just because

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Speaker 1: I listened to Zach Taylor on the Flying Coach podcast

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Speaker 1: with Peter Schrager and Sean McVay and was really impressed

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Speaker 1: justus listening to him and how he talked about how

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Speaker 1: we talked about ball. He told a great story about

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Speaker 1: the drag. Remember the COVID Draft of twenty twenty, that's

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Speaker 1: it all mapped out. It was all supposed to be there,

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Speaker 1: so that's why that first pickie, that's just him in

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Speaker 1: this like stark like naked room basically because his his

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Speaker 1: his equipment people, not his his Bengals equipment people, with

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Speaker 1: the people that were gonna build out that room let

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Speaker 1: him down. He was able to get enough done for

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Speaker 1: the next night to make it look somewhat reputable. But

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Speaker 1: I had a good laugh about that. But I just

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Speaker 1: think he's been there. He's been in the NFL for

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Speaker 1: a while. I may hasn't been in the NFL. And

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Speaker 1: you gotta realize you're coaching a completely different game on

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Speaker 1: a number of different levels. It's football, but it's a

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Speaker 1: different kind of football. You're dealing with grown men, you're

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00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: dealing with men with kids. You're dealing with just a

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00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: whole different mindset. You can't just go out and recruit

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Speaker 1: the best player in Ohio and convince him to come

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Speaker 1: play for you because you're the coach at Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: It's not worth like that. So even talent across the board,

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Speaker 1: what's going to separate you as a head coach? And

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Speaker 1: I just don't know that they're all the way there

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Speaker 1: with all the talent. I think the Bengals are uber

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Speaker 1: talented offensively. I think they're crazy talented offensively, and I

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00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: think they've got some sneaky talent on defensive side. I

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Speaker 1: think the Bengals have an opportunity to take a step up.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, AFC North's pretty tight. I mean that's tight.

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Speaker 1: I think I think if you ask me the question,

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Speaker 1: who's gonna take a step back the Browns and Steelers,

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Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are taking a step back. I

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Speaker 1: think it's the Bengals that could take a step forward. Interesting,

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Speaker 1: All right, So, Johnny, we didn't talk protocols much yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Did we? Did we talk? I don't calls yesterday? No,

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Speaker 1: you and I didn't. I did. At the end of

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Speaker 1: the show. I talked about it in what it could

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00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: mean and how you know how different things I mean,

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Speaker 1: And like I said, you're vaccinated, man, you can party

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Speaker 1: like it's twenty nineteen. You know, like Prince said, well,

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Speaker 1: hang on, hang on, I don't know. Here's the problem,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Okay, because I'm excited about this, and I

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Speaker 1: hope we're all in tier two and there's plenty of room.

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Speaker 1: And I know this is a little inside baseball stuff

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Speaker 1: for you just to use that expression, but not for

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Speaker 1: you for the listener. But look, we got we all

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Speaker 1: get on the charter. Great. If we're all intire two,

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Speaker 1: that's wonderful. We all travel, we do our job the

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Speaker 1: way we've always done it. It's going to be fantastic. However,

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Speaker 1: you test every two weeks if you've been fully vaccinated.

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Speaker 1: I have, but you can still test positive. And now

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Speaker 1: you're on the sideline, and that bothers the you know

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Speaker 1: what out of me, because look, you're just they're living

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Speaker 1: your innocent life, and bang you test positive. But you've

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Speaker 1: been double vacxed and I've had the thing right, So

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Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned about that part of it. The

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Speaker 1: other thing is this, I didn't I didn't see that

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Speaker 1: part of it. So I just the one part test

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Speaker 1: well yeah, yeah, I know. But the one part I

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Speaker 1: saw was if you if you are a high I

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Speaker 1: guess I saw if you're a close contact, you don't

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Speaker 1: have that five day waiting period. Um. If you're a

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Speaker 1: close contact. Oh, I guess that means if you first contact,

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Speaker 1: you still come up as negative. Yeah. Oh oh man, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well that's the thing, Johnny, because look, uh, if if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna test in other words, I always wonder, why

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Speaker 1: are we testing people who are vaccinated if they're asymptomatic,

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Speaker 1: and can you even spread it like that? I guess

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Speaker 1: you can, uh, you know, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: But that's the policy. Okay, that's the policy. If you

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Speaker 1: test positive, you know what they're gonna do. Uh, sit

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Speaker 1: over here for a while, right, whatever that time might be.

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Speaker 1: I imagine a couple of negatives gets you back in

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Speaker 1: the game, so to speak. But we'll see. Now a

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Speaker 1: training camp, there will be fans, but the protocols, as

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00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: they were reported yesterday, call for twenty feet between fans

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Speaker 1: and any Tier one member, which would be a player. Right,

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00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: so you're not going to have the autographs and the

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Speaker 1: pictures and everything like that at NFL training camps this year.

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Speaker 1: And what I call the gauntlet, which is where the

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Speaker 1: players walk down the stairs and anybody's been to Texas

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00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: Training Camp knows that I'm talking about. They walk through

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00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: that little alleyway area to get into the practice field

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00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: facility at the Houston Methodist Training Center. Usually they'd stop

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Speaker 1: and sign autographs, and you know many of them would,

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Speaker 1: if not most, even me. You know if now, look,

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Speaker 1: if the players are there, I'm not signing anything because

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00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: it's then't Wamie. But if there's nobody else there's they're

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00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: like Vandermeer's sign something. Well, that's not going to happen

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00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: this year because they want your twenty feet away and

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00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: I would imagine in whatever tier were and that's the case.

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00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: So maybe that's a little too esoteric, but I just

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00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: thought i'd bring that up. But I think overall the

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00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: news is extremely positive. To have fans of training camp,

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00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: fans and stadiums. We'll be able to cover this team

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00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: the way it needs to be covered. So it's gonna

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00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. Johnny, did you see that

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00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: the actor and a lot of people won't know his name,

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00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: Frank Bonner passed away and he's known for playing Herb

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Speaker 1: Tarlik in the series w KRP in Cincinnati. Oh no, yeah, yeah, Now,

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00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: the reason why this is and I was like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he wore the loud jackets and he was really caricature

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00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: of a radio salesperson, and radio sales people, I don't

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00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: know if they are humored by this, you know, I

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Speaker 1: was one. I can tell you this. Yeah, it's all

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00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: in good fun, but come on, such a caricature, but

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00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: a good supporting actor in a sitcom. And it got

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00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: me thinking about other great supporting actors in sitcoms. And

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00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: they're way too many to mention here, but he's one

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00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: of them. And that was a good show back in

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00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: the day. I don't think it's anybody's favorite show ever,

776
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: but it had a lot of good moments and it's

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00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: a radio thing, so I thought i'd bring it up

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00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: since this is a radio station we are airing on.

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00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: Have you gone back and watched it since being in radio? No? No?

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00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: Uh oh yeah yeah I have. And you know what,

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00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: they had Lonnie Anderson on the show, and I forget

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00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: the actress who plays Bailey, but they have their own

783
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: little Ginger versus mary Anne kind of thing going on,

784
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: because everyone's like Ginger and Marianna used to be a

785
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: big thing. And you know, for for whatever your preferences,

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00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: and uh, Lonnie and Bailey were also sort of the

787
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: the B the B side to that sort of argument debate,

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Speaker 1: if you will. All right, Look, that's all the time

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Speaker 1: we have for today. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's show, Johnny.

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00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: I caught up with Tony Banks, former Texas quarterbacks, So

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00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: looking forward to sho that the world. Yep, I'm gonna

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00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: have that, and gonna also have David Fletcher. We got

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Speaker 1: a late summer in fall and early winter, I guess

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00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: full of events of Lone Star Sports entertainment events at

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Speaker 1: Energy Stadium, starting with Concaff Gold Cup. Then we've got

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Speaker 1: the Battle of the Band, and then we've got the

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Speaker 1: Texas Texas Tech Houston kickoff game September fourth. So Fletch

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00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: also being out with me tomorrow to discuss all of that. Well,

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00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that soccer match because I'm watching

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00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: all the soccer going on right now and it's gonna

801
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: be fired up for it. So that's gonna be cool

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Speaker 1: to hear from you and Fletch tomorrow. That's gonna be it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you General John McClain for being on, Thank you

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Speaker 1: Eddie for producing. Thank you Johnny. Have a great night,

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