1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of iHeartRadio. Good Morning, 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: This is Laura. Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. Today's 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: episode is going to be a longer one part of 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: the series where I interview fascinating people about how they 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: take their days from great to awesome and their advice 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: for the rest of us. So today I am delighted 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: to welcome Amanda Warner to the show. Amanda lives in 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: Florida and she's worked in fields including commercial real estate 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: and event planning. She is currently doing consulting in commercial 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: real estate. She is also a long time Before Breakfast listener. So, Amanda, 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you. So why don't you 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: introduce yourself to our listeners, maybe tell them a little 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: bit about yourself. 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: Sure, So, like you said in the intro, I live 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: in South Florida and my career has been in commercial 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: real estate, so both doing the operation side and then 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: also lease administration side. And as we chat through, you 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: know some time things you'll see a lot of it 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: is scheduled or routine or repetitive. And so you know 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: some of my yes ways I pre plan or take 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: care of timing, you know, evolved into that. And then 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: just personally, I've always been an organized person and you know, 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: keep track of schedules and stuff. So that's a bit 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: of background about me. 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, maybe you can talk a little bit about 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: You said that word pre planning, and I know you 29 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: are big on a pre planning, So tell us what 30 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: that is and what it looks like in your life. 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: Sure. So pre planning to me is just thinking through 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: what's coming up, and I think it's a combination of 33 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: working forwards and backwards. But a real tangible example I 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: recently used it with the holidays is when it comes 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: to packing for a trip, I keep a notebook. And 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: I started this a long time ago because I would 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: every time I'd have a trip, I'd write it on 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: a piece of paper, probably throw the piece paper out 39 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: next trip I have to remember, and this just was 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: not the most efficient thing. So I grabbed a notebook 41 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: and I write down when I'm getting ready for a trip. 42 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: And what's really helpful is the next trip I have 43 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: to go on, I have like the template from the 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: previous trip. And yes, a lot of people can do 45 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: this in Excel and you can print an Excel spreadsheet. 46 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: But what I like is I can flip back to 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: my notes or things that I packed at the last minute, 48 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: or certain destinations like when I go stay with family, 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: I don't need to take a blow dryer. If I'm 50 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: staying in a hotel, I might need to. So it's 51 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: little things like that that I feel have saved me 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 2: so much time over the years. And also the mental 53 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: gymnastics of needing to remember to take things down a trip. 54 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: So that's one example. 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: That's one example. Okay, let's get another example of what 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: pre planning looks like. 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: Okay, pre planning is I have I keep two small 58 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: pieces of paper in my kitchen. One says trash and 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: one says lunch. And on the days that I have 60 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: to take trash out the next morning, I put it 61 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: with my morning walking stuff. So we'll get to my 62 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: morning walk and I'm sure later in the episode, but yes, 63 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: I could remember to take the trash out, but it 64 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: removes the mental I remember to take the trash. I 65 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: go to grab my stuff and the note is right there. 66 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: Take the trash out, and then when I get back in, 67 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: I put the note away till the next time I 68 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: need to take trash out. Same thing if I'm taking lunch, 69 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: and I don't take lunch every day, but I don't 70 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: want to forget it. It's just leaving the note there 71 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: for myself. So that's part of what what I call 72 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: pre planning. 73 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: Cool, you have one more example for us? 74 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: I have one more example. You know, I'm sure I 75 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: have endless examples. I think in a work context, what 76 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: a lot of people forget about or don't realize is 77 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: pre planning or saving templates for things, or whether it's 78 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: a document or even in an email. To save a 79 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: template or to pull up a previous email that has 80 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: all the same information and just copy and paste it 81 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: instead of needing to start over every day time. 82 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always good because when you're starting from scratch, 83 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: like the same thing with the trip planning, right, you 84 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: are like reinventing a wheel that you didn't have to do. 85 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: All this is already there, right, So why don't you 86 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about your routines? So I understand 87 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: that you have something of a morning routine as well. 88 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: I do have a morning routine. I walk every morning, 89 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: and this started like years and years ago, where I 90 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: realized after sitting at a desk all day like I 91 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: wanted to be more active, and so I did the 92 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: I'll start walking before work. So then had, you know, 93 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: do the whole adjust my time to get up earlier, 94 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: and I did. And at the time, I was still 95 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: living in Michigan, which is where I'm from, and rain 96 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: or shine, hot or cold, I would bundle up and 97 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: do my morning walk. And while sometimes it was not 98 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: comfortable while walking in the cold like, I did like 99 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: the fact that no matter what happened in my day, 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: I'd moved and I'd done something for myself. And that 101 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: just continued. So as jobs changed, I had to adjust 102 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: my time, or as I wanted to walk longer, I 103 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: had to adjust my time. No difference than when you're 104 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: training for a race, although I wasn't training for a race. 105 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: I was just walking. And then in moving to South Florida, 106 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: you really have to get up early, especially in the 107 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: summer if you want to avoid the heat. So as 108 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: life has evolved, I definitely am one of those very 109 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: early alarm clock people. But I've come to appreciate my 110 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: morning walk so much that I joke with friends who 111 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: can't function unless they have their morning coffee. I've turned 112 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: into one of those people that can't function unless I 113 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: have my morning walk. 114 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: And what does that tend to look like for you 115 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: right now? Like what time are you getting up to 116 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: go for home. 117 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: I'm usually getting up a little before five and have 118 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: all of my stuff laid out already so that i 119 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: can just throw on the clothes and take it and 120 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: get out the door, and then I usually walk for 121 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: about five miles and then I'll come home and you know, 122 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: finish my morning routine. But then also on my walks, 123 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: you know, that's a big part of when I listen 124 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: to podcasts, So lots of times you are accompanying me 125 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: on my morning walks. 126 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: Well only for a couple of minutes of it, though, 127 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: because how long is it taking you to walk five miles? 128 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: That is not a distance, It does a lot. 129 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: It is a lot of before breakfast. I'm usually up 130 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: for an hour and a half in the morning. And 131 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: that's in a perfect day, a perfect conditions, weather time, 132 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: weather stuff like that. It does vary, and if it 133 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: has to be adjusted for you know, weather or schedule, 134 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: it does. 135 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: And what happens if it's you know, thunderstorm, which I 136 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: hear happens in southwast you. 137 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: Know, it depends how stubborn I'm being and or when 138 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: it starts raining, sort, so. 139 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: You'll time it. You'll time it around the rain or 140 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: around the light. Okay, okay, And you know it's interesting. 141 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: I bet the weather. 142 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: You know, walking in South Florida is obviously a very 143 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: different way other issues than one encounters in Michigan. But 144 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: you actually made a choice to move to South Florida 145 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: partly for the weather. For the weather. Can you tell 146 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: us a little bit about that? 147 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: Sure? 148 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: I mean, the short answer is I'm one of those 149 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: people whose bodies does not do well in cold weather, 150 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: even though that's where I'm from my entire life. And 151 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: so after doctors suggested I move to warm weather, I 152 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: listened to them and it really has made a difference. 153 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: That's awesome. And so you're just listening to podcasts and 154 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: walking briskly. I mean, does this ever get boring to you? 155 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: It's a good question. It doesn't, because I have some 156 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: form of entertainment, whether it's listening to podcasts. My sister 157 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: lives overseas, and so it's actually a really great time 158 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: for us to chat because she'll be it's the middle, 159 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: like late morning for her. My nephews are at school, 160 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: so I can talk to my sister, so I can 161 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: talk to her. I can listen to podcasts, but no, 162 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: it doesn't get boring because I'm outside, so scenery is 163 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: always changing. Whereas if I were on a treadmill for 164 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: that amount of time, it would be to rugery. 165 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: It would be I can attest to that. 166 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: Five miles even if you're going fast on a treadmill 167 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: is rougerie. I love being outside as well. Or We're 168 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: going to take a quick ad break and then I'll 169 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: be back with more from Amanda Warner. 170 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: Well, I am back. 171 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: This is a longer episode of Before Breakfast. We're talking 172 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: with listener Amanda Warner, who's worked most of her career 173 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: in commercial real estate. She currently lives in South Florida. 174 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: She's been talking about her five mile long morning walks 175 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: where she listens to this podcast and many others. Since 176 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm usually only about four or five minutes a day, 177 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: I love that routine. Amanda, Maybe you can tell us 178 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: a little bit about your lunchtime routine, because you mentioned 179 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: you also are pretty good about the lunchtime break. 180 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: So similar to the reason that I started the morning walk, 181 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: which was I needed to know to move my life. 182 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: I also started walking at lunchtime. I wouldn't say it 183 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: was the same chapter of life that I did both 184 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: at the same time, but you know, it kind of 185 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: evolved that way. And you know, when I'm in an 186 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: office environment, I've come to take like a fifteen to 187 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: twenty minute walk break, so it usually ends up being 188 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: you know, about it's about a mile, but it's really 189 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: just to get out of an office to clear my head. 190 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: All the offices I've been in, I've been able to 191 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: find a nice path or a nice route, you know, 192 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: close to the office, and it really is just a 193 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: time for me to clear my head, get space from 194 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: whatever I'm working on before I then go back in 195 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: and we'll have you know, a desktop launch or a 196 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: quick lunch in you know, a break room, depending on 197 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: the environment in the office. And I think I get 198 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: equal parts joking or comments from employee like coworkers, as 199 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: well as perhaps respect, like they respect that I'm walking, 200 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: they know that I'm going to I've been in environments 201 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 2: where we lunch together and they'll be like, have you yet, 202 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: We'll wait for you to have lunch when you get back, 203 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: or people who schedule a meeting, but want to make 204 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: sure it wraps up so I can walk or ask 205 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: if I've walked today. So I've taken that as admiration, 206 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: even when I get jokes about it. But it really 207 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: does make a difference to just leave. And you know, 208 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: there's so many times you hear people or like you say, 209 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 2: it's the stories we tell ourselves that we can't leave 210 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: the office and we can't take a hard break, but 211 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: like you can, and if you're consistent about it, you'll 212 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: be respected for it. 213 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: And so if you're coming into a new situation, I'm 214 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: curious how you would suggest, you know, approaching this with 215 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: your coworkers and other people you're working with. If you're 216 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: the kind of person who would like to take a 217 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: walk every day at lunch, what would you suggest saying 218 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: or doing? I mean, maybe some advice here. 219 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: Sure, So if you're started, I mean, for me at 220 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: this point, like I'm comfortable and confident in the fact 221 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: that I take a look at lunch, So you know, 222 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 2: if it doesn't come up in an interview, it'll usually 223 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: come up within you know, the first day or so. 224 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: I take a while, I take a quick break to 225 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: take a quick walk before I have lunch and it's 226 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: just kind of what it is. But if you're at 227 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: in a role and you've been there for a while 228 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: and you want to start, honestly, just start one day. 229 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: Just say to the colleague, you know, I'm going stepping out, 230 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: just you know, for a walk for a bit. I'll 231 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 2: be back and if you like it, you just keep going. 232 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: And I think if you were to get feedback or 233 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: pushback once you've already started, you can kind of get 234 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: a better sense of it. So because it's during the 235 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: day and because we're all allowed our lunch breaks and 236 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: our personal time, I don't there shouldn't be an issue. 237 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: The only one and I can see is, you know, 238 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: scheduling wise, if you have if you have shift work, 239 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: or if you need to be on the phones at 240 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: a certain time for someone else, well then you might 241 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 2: have time restrictions. But I think it's just starting it, 242 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: seeing how it goes for you, and then you can 243 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: give a better response if someone has a concern. 244 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 245 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: Well, And the interesting thing is sometimes with shift work 246 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: or when you are specifically, like on the phones for 247 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: a certain amount of time, many of those jobs have 248 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: more formalized breaks precisely because you know, everyone has to 249 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: cover for a certain amount of time, and so you know, 250 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: you've got fifteen minutes built in, say twice a day, 251 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: and so you could take one of those and go outside. 252 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: And to that point, Actually, I've thought about that because 253 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: I've you know, had employees who are shift workers or 254 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: who are laborers, you know, thinking like maintenance technicians or 255 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: janitorial staff, and they have their breaks. You know, it's 256 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: part of their schedule. It's also part of their employment contract. 257 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: And you know many times they're like, unless it's an emergency, 258 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: don't call me between twelve and twelve thirty, that's my break, 259 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: and they take those breaks. Seriously. Yeah, many of us 260 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: who are in an office environment or have more autonomy 261 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: over our schedules were the ones that say, we can't, 262 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: but yet we can. Look to those who have different 263 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: work structures and we can not every day, but we can. 264 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, I'm a big fan of me where you are. 265 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: We recently had an episode when this runs, there will 266 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: have been a recent episode when I talk about actually 267 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: naming breaks that I heard this tip from someone that 268 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: they named their breaks during the day, and that you know, 269 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: because lunch obviously has a break, but you know, what 270 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: is the mid afternoon break when you are sleepy and 271 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: need to do something to wake yourself up? What is that? 272 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, but by formalizing it, you encourage yourself 273 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: to actually, yeah, yeah, noaks breaks are awesome. Well, I 274 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: wonder if you have an example of how you have 275 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: taken a day from great to awesome recently. 276 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: Sure, so, I've had two. I can share one that 277 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: I think we'll just make anyone's day anytime it happens. 278 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: I had to park in a parking meter, and when 279 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: I went to go figure out what app I needed 280 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: for this particular parking meter, there was an hour left 281 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 2: in the meter from the previous person, so I didn't 282 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: have to put money in the meter. 283 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: Nice. Nice, just like on the app you were checking. 284 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: Like I looked at the meter and it. 285 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: Still said one hour on it, because this was a 286 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 2: meter that you could do app coin. Oh gosh, there 287 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: was an hour left. 288 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you, thank you anonymous other people exactly exactly. 289 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: So that was, you know, really more of a universal one. 290 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: But then a recent you know, professional one. A colleague 291 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: and I had started a coffee networking group earlier this year. 292 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: And when you start any new group it's like always 293 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: a little fledgling. So we had to cancel a few 294 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: times because it was only going to be the two 295 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: of us, but we kept going and every time we meet. 296 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: We've had a handful of meetings. In the most recent time, 297 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: there's about four of us each time, but four different people. 298 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: But what made the day great to awesome besides having 299 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: you know, this coffee with you know, three people, two 300 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: of whom never hadn't met each other before, was when 301 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: I asked for feedback for next year. I was thinking 302 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: about did we want to do this quarterly or more 303 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: frequently less frequently, and all three of them said, I 304 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: think we should do it monthly. And one of them 305 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: said because in this way, if we miss the meet 306 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: or we have a conflict, we know there's another next month. 307 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: We don't have to wait three months. And to me, 308 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: that really made my day go great to awesome or 309 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: good to great because I had started something and it 310 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: was working and people appreciated it. So I was really 311 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: happy about that. 312 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 313 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: Well, and I also think that's a good mindset too, 314 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: that the more frequent something is the sort of lower stakes. 315 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: If people can't make it to one of them knowing 316 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: it's happening frequently, allows people to build it into their 317 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: life with the knowledge that life isn't always exactly as 318 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: we wish it to be as well. 319 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: So well, that's that's a really cool idea. I love it. 320 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: We're going to take one more quick ad break and 321 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: then we'll be back with more from Amanda. Well, I 322 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: am back talking with Amanda Warner, who is a South 323 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: Florida resident, works in commercial real estate, and is also 324 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: a long time Before Breakfast listener that we discussed. She 325 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: listens to this sometimes on her epic morning walks that 326 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: she does the vast majority of days unless there is 327 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: I suppose a hurricane coming through her part of Florida. 328 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: But Amanda, we didn't chat about this earlier, but I 329 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: hope it's okay for me to ask, you are a 330 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: fantastic baker. Can you talk about how your cookie baking 331 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: came to be and how that fits in your house. 332 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: How that fits into my life? Yes, happy too, And 333 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: also I can use you know, I can talk about 334 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: pre planning on now one too. 335 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's talk so baking. 336 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: It's always been one of my hobbies. I learned it 337 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: from my mom. Like there are pictures you know of 338 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: me on the counter with my mom making banana bread 339 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: when I was little, so you know, I've just always 340 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: done that. And a number of years ago, friends said 341 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: you should start a business, and I said, no ganging 342 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: up on me, but if ten friends tell me, I'll 343 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: think about it or I'll take them seriously. So I 344 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: did get the ten friends, started a business and said 345 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: if it reaches a point where I don't like baking anymore, 346 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: I'm stopping because it's my hobby. It's one of my 347 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: creative outlets. And sure enough, after two years, reached that 348 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: point and closed the business, but kept on baking. And 349 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: then last year was with a different group of friends, 350 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: different circumstances in life, they convinced me to try it again, 351 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 2: doing it as a pop up style. So I mean, 352 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: no dabbling here and there with pop up baking on occasion, 353 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: which I know you are familiar with, but it remains 354 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: one of my hobbies. So that's my baking business slash 355 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: not business slash what I do. Well. 356 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: I love the idea of doing it until it's not fun. 357 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean, because if something is a side hustle, a 358 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: hobby I mean, or either one of those. I mean, 359 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: when it becomes not fun that it's like, well, you 360 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: may as well just do more of your regular job, 361 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: right right. Yeah, And so I'm curious what makes something 362 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: what makes somebody a good baker, Like, what do you 363 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: think is your uh special insight here that a lot 364 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: of people don't get. 365 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: That's a really good question. 366 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 367 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: Because I've always been doing it. But perhaps one thing 368 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: is baking versus cooking. Baking you need to have more precision. 369 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: You need to be one who respects rules and measurements 370 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 2: and whatnot, whereas cooking this is not true universally, but 371 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: cooking you can just have a lot more freedom and 372 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: measuring is not is necessary in baking if you don't 373 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 2: measures that measure the flour or put in too much liquid, like, 374 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 2: it's not going to turn out. And because I don't 375 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: mind following the rules and I do like the precision, 376 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: I think that's one of the reasons why I've become 377 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 2: a good baker. I think I took for granted that 378 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: my mom taught me how to read a recipe when 379 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 2: I was a kid, so I, you know, have comfort. 380 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: I'm comfortable reading recipes, and then a more tangible thing 381 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: that I think everyone can relate to while listening is 382 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: I've learned that the secret to really good cookies is 383 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: to underbake them. So take them out before they look 384 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: done and then they'll be good. 385 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: Then they'll be good. So you gotta watch frequently take 386 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: them out before they are even turning into those little 387 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: hard rap discs. Happens to some of us, and it's 388 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: so true, and the measuring and things like that. I 389 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: read a hilarious thread online one of the flower companies 390 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: that people were posting comments, and it was just silly 391 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: stuff like I used a little less flour but it 392 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: didn't turn out well, and it's like, well, come. 393 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: On, like you can't just do that. 394 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: Or I substituted something for the butter and it didn't work, 395 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, you know, then you need to 396 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: go find a different recipe for Like there are recipes 397 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: out there for cookies that use oil or something like that, 398 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: but you know, you need a recipe that's developed with 399 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: that in mind. So, Amanda, what is something you are 400 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 1: looking forward to right now? 401 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess on the topic of you know, baking, 402 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: I've been baking a lot for the holidays. I often, 403 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: you know, take it when I'm going to friends houses 404 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: or you know, send it as gifts, So definitely, you know, 405 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: enjoying baking, and then really just looking forward to the 406 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: new year. I've got a lot of I have some 407 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: trips planned, I have some events coming up, so really 408 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: it's just that fresh start of a new year. 409 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 3: Do you set a lot of resolutions. 410 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm not a big resolution person. I guess I would 411 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 2: say I'm more goal oriented, so then again that could 412 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: be a matter of semantics. So not so many resolutions, 413 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: but things I want to just be aware of or 414 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: you know, work towards. 415 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: And do you actually resolve to continue with your walking 416 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: habit or is it so ingreaded, It's so ingrained. 417 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 2: In me that it's just I just do an autopilot. 418 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: Do an autopilot. 419 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: Well that's the best kind of habit, right, Yeah, I 420 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: don't even need to think about it. 421 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 3: Wonderful. 422 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: Well, Amanda, thank you so much for joining us, and 423 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: thank you to everyone who's been listening to this episode. 424 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: If you have feedback on this episode or others of 425 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: ideas of peace, people you'd like to hear from, because 426 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: we're definitely going to hear from some more before Breakfast 427 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: listeners in these longer episodes, let me know. 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