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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio, Springing Brandell Shamblee, the lead Golf Channel studio

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Speaker 1: analyst live from Augusta, analysis throughout the day and in

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Speaker 1: primetime each night. Best piece of sports memorabilia you have

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Speaker 1: is what Brandal? We think about that? I think I

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Speaker 1: got an a Rod signed baseball. That's not bad. Let's see. Gosh,

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Speaker 1: I'm not much of a big sports memorabilia collector. I

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Speaker 1: got a piece of art, a beautiful piece of art,

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Speaker 1: signed by Arnold Palmer. It was a pencil sketching of

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Speaker 1: him with the nineteen sixty Open Championship where he finished

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Speaker 1: second from a very famous painter in Europe the name

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Speaker 1: of Harold Riley. And believe it or not, I had

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Speaker 1: that for about twenty years. And a good friend of

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Speaker 1: mine is great friends with Jack Nicholson, and Nicholson was

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Speaker 1: having i think his seventieth birthday party, and he loves art,

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Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson does. So I was like, all right, I'll

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Speaker 1: give this to my buddy to give to Jack Nicholson.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm assuming it hangs in Jack Nicholson's house. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Nicholson's got quite an art collection. Yeah, he loves it

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Speaker 1: and he loves his golf. I have when Tiger won

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Speaker 1: the Grand Slam. I have an autograph of let's see Augusta,

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Speaker 1: the Augusta newspaper. But Tiger will autograph it to you

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Speaker 1: instead of just putting tiger Woods where you could sell it.

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Speaker 1: It's like to Dan, all the best tiger Woods. Well

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good right there? Yeah, and pretty good. Ye,

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Speaker 1: no one's ever done that. He personalized it for you.

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Speaker 1: And then Tom Brady sent me a jersey and it

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Speaker 1: just it says to Dan tom Brady. So I can't

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Speaker 1: unless somebody named Dan wants to buy it, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to be able to sell it. Listen your whole room.

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Speaker 1: There's a sports memory b Hall of Fame. Probably. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty good. It's eclectic, though, there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of things where you go. Why would you collect that?

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Speaker 1: I mean I famously or infamously brought back a piece

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Speaker 1: played it. I put it in my golf bag in

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Speaker 1: a baggie and brought back a divot. See that's something

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Speaker 1: you should just plant in your yard. I urtri it.

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Speaker 1: Then you could claim your front yard was, you know,

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Speaker 1: Augusta life. I mentioned this to start the show. There

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Speaker 1: was a moment watching Tiger yesterday where I think he

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Speaker 1: felt like he won already. He's already won. He got here,

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Speaker 1: he had a goal to play in the Masters. Nobody

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Speaker 1: thought it was possible. He played well, you know, no

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Speaker 1: issues with his back. The hard part is just walking

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Speaker 1: to his shots. He was scrambling. He was here in

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Speaker 1: the roars, nearly had a hole in one like it

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Speaker 1: just felt like you could see that in his mind,

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Speaker 1: like I'm playing with house money. Now whatever happens from here,

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Speaker 1: I did it. I got I got through this round

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Speaker 1: and I'm under par Yeah. I couldn't agree more. You know,

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Speaker 1: everything he was doing I had in the back of

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Speaker 1: my mind the video or the picture of the wreckage

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Speaker 1: in the bottom of that canyon, and thinking, first of all,

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Speaker 1: it was a miracle he didn't die, and it sounds

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Speaker 1: like it was a miracle he didn't lose his limbs.

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Speaker 1: So in the context of that, I was thinking, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a miracle that he's even here. And then when

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Speaker 1: he looked to be and people will say, look, he

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Speaker 1: only shot one under so pumped the brakes and he

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Speaker 1: only hit nine greens. You know, yesterday John Romilly at

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Speaker 1: But it was just how dog gone sharp he was

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Speaker 1: with his golf game. The top twenty players in the

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Speaker 1: in the context of that is I was watching him,

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Speaker 1: three is in play. You know, eighty three wins. He

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Speaker 1: He's tied with Sam's needed eighty two. I thought that's

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Speaker 1: But now I think eighty three is in play. The

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Speaker 1: If Tiger came out today and he's going to probably

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Speaker 1: start really blowing. So Tiger came out to day and

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Speaker 1: I know we've talked about just how hilly that course is,

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Speaker 1: The winds are really it feels like underrated at Augusta

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Speaker 1: people I don't think normally talk or you know, factor

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Speaker 1: winds blowing as severe as they were yesterday. In nineteen

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Speaker 1: people have have evoked the Lord's name in vain and

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Speaker 1: think it seems to me that Tiger is so appreciative

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Speaker 1: put their arms and just thank Tiger Woods for what

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Speaker 1: I just think it's made him a little bit softer

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Speaker 1: before these interviews, you think he was the nicest, most heartwarming,

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Speaker 1: It just feels like, you know, you can be Tiger

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Speaker 1: and it feels like he's brought a little dad out

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Speaker 1: I It's funny. I've I've often said about Tiger like,

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Speaker 1: friends are some of the nicest people. You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: No to Big Gay on this show here in a

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Speaker 1: little bit, right, Yeah, No to Bigai is about the

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Speaker 1: nicest human being you'll ever meet in your life. Steve

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Speaker 1: these are literally the nicest guys you will ever meet

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Speaker 1: It was very respectful that people he plays with quick

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Speaker 1: called patrons. Randall than just saying, you know what, edit

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Speaker 1: I if i'd have said fans on the air. I

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Speaker 1: you Dad, your host and producer. Um, I liked cam

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Speaker 1: Smith to win it. Um give me your pick after

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Speaker 1: I'll I'll go Scheffler. Uh. You know, I just think

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Speaker 1: Sheffler drives the ball better than Cam Smith. It's it's

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Speaker 1: terms of finding fairways. But Cam's got a wild miss

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Speaker 1: It happened a few times yesterday and made double bogey

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Speaker 1: in the end that'll be the difference. Great to talk

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Speaker 1: to you. Tell the boys, I said, hello, we'll be

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Speaker 1: watching later on today. Thanks Dan, I talked to you.

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Speaker 1: That's Randall Shamblee, the lead Golf Channel studio analyst Live

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Speaker 1: for the Masters must see TV every single night, and

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Speaker 1: I know I was watching last night night before I

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Speaker 1: Rich Learner, the host there on Live for the Masters.

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Speaker 1: Let's see Mike and Wisconsin. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind? Ring? Dan? Dan?

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Speaker 1: cham you know, I got a comment about Tiger and

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Speaker 1: a quick question. My comment is, you know, speaking from experience,

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Speaker 1: But my question is we hear a lot about like

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Speaker 1: ESPN's live coverage second round of the Master, who starts

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Speaker 1: at three eastern today, as we bring in Michael Leaves

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Speaker 1: kind enough to join us. Michael, at what point do

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Speaker 1: you start in your mind thinking of what questions you're

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Speaker 1: going to ask Tiger when you get that opportunity, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's funny. Mike McQuaid, who runs our golf coverage for ESPN,

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Speaker 1: he is my producer when I'm doing the interviews, and

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Speaker 1: he hit me right before Tigers coming in. He said,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about asking him? I said, I've

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Speaker 1: already had my questions two hours ago. I knew exactly

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Speaker 1: what I was going to ask him, at least let

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Speaker 1: me rephras. I knew I was going to ask him

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Speaker 1: the first question, and then based on his first answer,

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Speaker 1: I was hoping my second question would still apply. But

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Speaker 1: because we've known so much about him and this story Dan,

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Speaker 1: it was pretty obvious. What we wanted to get out

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Speaker 1: of him, right was what it was like for him

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Speaker 1: just being back there. And Tiger's always been guarded about

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Speaker 1: his feelings. I try to get him to break that

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Speaker 1: force a little bit. He saw the look on his

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Speaker 1: face when he's walking towards the first tea. I thought

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Speaker 1: that was very interesting and I wanted to get a

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Speaker 1: take out of that. And then also it's like he

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Speaker 1: always says, you know, playing golf with my friends is

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Speaker 1: one thing. Tournament golf is something else. So like what

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Speaker 1: was what did you learn in this tournament round that

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Speaker 1: you couldn't learn about yourself or your game for that matter,

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Speaker 1: and those practice rounds. So I thought those two questions

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Speaker 1: were layups, and I had them two hours ahead of time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the thing you got to worry about with Tigers,

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Speaker 1: he can shut you down with a yes or a no. Right,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, given all this thought to this great question,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes you know, as an interviewer, we get full

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Speaker 1: of ourselves, like damn, that's a good question and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna crush it, and then all of a sudden you

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Speaker 1: go no or yes, and you're like, okay, now you

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Speaker 1: got a rally. It almost feels like you get in

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Speaker 1: a situation like that where you don't want the interview

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Speaker 1: to end because you do have this magical moment and

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Speaker 1: he's giving you things. It feels like he's actually talking

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Speaker 1: to you, not sort of you know, regurgitating something. Did

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Speaker 1: you get sense I did? The last question I asked

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Speaker 1: him was more about, you know, his body and how

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Speaker 1: he feels and what he's going to be doing, you know,

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Speaker 1: to get ready for a round two today. And that's

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Speaker 1: where he kind of shut me down a little bit

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Speaker 1: with his little things, like a lot of ice, you know,

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Speaker 1: that was the answer. A lot of ice between the

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Speaker 1: you know, the next sixteen to eighteen hours. But what

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Speaker 1: I got from him Dan, even like the brief exchanges

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Speaker 1: we had before we started that interview, I think he

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Speaker 1: took more pride and being able to get here and

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Speaker 1: actually play that first round than the score itself because

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Speaker 1: what he went through. And I think because he's been

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Speaker 1: so great for so long and he's overcome other injuries

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Speaker 1: in the past and other embarrassing moments as well, that

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Speaker 1: we take him for granted more than maybe any other

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Speaker 1: athlete we have in our time, because he continues to

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Speaker 1: do it. There's a friend of mine that works at

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Speaker 1: YAH whose name is Altoby. He said, the thing with Tiger,

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Speaker 1: there are no peaks, there are no bottoms. There's always more,

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Speaker 1: and he keeps giving us more and we take it

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Speaker 1: for granted. But for him personally, he knew what he

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Speaker 1: went through to get back there to that opening tea

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Speaker 1: shot on Thursday, and there was a lot of pride

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Speaker 1: that he carried with him as he walked off the

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Speaker 1: eighteenth green. Do you know Tiger is going to come in? Yes? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a request process. Like for our position, it's either

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Speaker 1: he's gonna come to me or go to Butler cabin.

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Speaker 1: And we knew early on that he's going to come

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Speaker 1: to us and not do Butler. Because the thing is,

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Speaker 1: if you remember, cam Smith was in the group in

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Speaker 1: front of him, and cam Smith Brown was so good

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Speaker 1: he went to Butler cabin, so we knew we were

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Speaker 1: getting Tiger. If he had one more question yesterday, what

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Speaker 1: were you going to ask? I've lost my train of

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Speaker 1: thought because I'm already worried about what I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: him today if I get a chance to talk to him, Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think. I didn't leave that interview thinking, damn,

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Speaker 1: I should have asked him this, or I wish I

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Speaker 1: could have got one more thing out of him. Now

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Speaker 1: if if sellers Lie, who's the producer for CBS, given me,

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Speaker 1: you know, two more questions, I could have kept going on.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't really leave there thinking damn, I wish

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Speaker 1: I should ask him something. But see, I liked the

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Speaker 1: last answer. The last answer he gave you is that

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Speaker 1: he's basically going to be using a lot of ice

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Speaker 1: to you know, reduce the swelling. He did it in

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Speaker 1: a way that was respectful to you. What's going to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, the process over the next eighteen hours. And

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Speaker 1: he said a lot of ice, so he's he's telling

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Speaker 1: you the interview is over, but he also but he

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Speaker 1: wants to. I mean, there's a science too when somebody

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Speaker 1: says something to your how they say it to you,

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Speaker 1: And you can also tell in somebody's eyes, like, um,

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Speaker 1: this is this interview is going to end here? And

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Speaker 1: I thought gave you a great answer. He did, and

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Speaker 1: he's an expert at that. Honestly, through the years, he's

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Speaker 1: an expert. But what you don't a lot of the

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Speaker 1: fans at home watch you don't understand is in that

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Speaker 1: interview era after me, he didn't had to do Carra

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Speaker 1: Banks from the Golf Channel, but she's working for Sky Sports.

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Speaker 1: And then when Carra was done, Amanda Renter former Amanda

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Speaker 1: Valionis had to do another interview with him for the

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Speaker 1: CBS Late Night show. And then when he left our area,

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Speaker 1: he walked outside and talked to the media out there,

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Speaker 1: so he already knew what his requirements were. So he's like,

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Speaker 1: all right, he's you got three. Let me move on

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Speaker 1: to car right, So I wasn't like totally shocked. He

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Speaker 1: kind of shut it down on that last one. Well,

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Speaker 1: good luck today and hopefully you got your questions. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Know I'm gonna be there watching, so I'm I'll send

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Speaker 1: you I'll send you a text afterwards. Hey, between you

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Speaker 1: and Tom Ronaldy who had this job before me, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll make sure my subject and birds agree. All right,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Michael, good luck today, all right, Dan, take

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Speaker 1: care brother. That's Michael Leaves ESPN Sports Center anchor and

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Speaker 1: doing the interviews, live coverage the Masters, Espens Life coverage

542
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Speaker 1: second round later today, three eastern. There's a science the

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Speaker 1: interviewing certain athletes, and Tiger fits into that category because

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Speaker 1: you're not quite sure how open he is going to be,

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Speaker 1: how playful he's going to be. I remember I asked

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Speaker 1: him about playing a round to golf with him, and

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Speaker 1: then we talked about how much money, and I said, well,

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Speaker 1: how much were we playing for? And he says, I think, basically,

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Speaker 1: how much makes you nervous. And it's a great line,

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Speaker 1: so he would say that to probably anybody, whatever makes

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Speaker 1: you nervous, let's play for that, because you're playing for

552
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Speaker 1: a hundred not nervous. Playing for a thousand you might

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Speaker 1: be a little more nervous. But I love that response.

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Speaker 1: It's like, whatever makes you nervous, Yes, Todd, not necessarily intimidatey.

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Speaker 1: But over the years from your career interviewing athletes, coaches, etc.

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Speaker 1: Who is someone that you are a little nervous that

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Speaker 1: may try to embarrass you or not give you what

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Speaker 1: you're looking for. I don't I don't think you can

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Speaker 1: have that mindset going into an interview. I just know

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Speaker 1: I got to be ready for the next question after

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Speaker 1: the question I just asked Tiger. I was always ready

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Speaker 1: to reload because you got to listen to him, and

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Speaker 1: then if he shuts me down, I gotta have something

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Speaker 1: ready to go. And he's caught me before where he'll

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Speaker 1: he'll give you a brief answer and then I'm not

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Speaker 1: ready to reload with him. But there's certain you know

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Speaker 1: Bob Knight. Bob Knight was like that for a little while.

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Speaker 1: Bill Parcels was like that. Belichick. I've only interviewed him

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Speaker 1: on the podium after winning a Super Bowl, so that's

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Speaker 1: not the same. But trying to think if there's anybody

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Speaker 1: else that you kind of go this might be a

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Speaker 1: little tougher, but Tigers. Tiger's right up there, because I

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Speaker 1: just don't he never feels natural. It's like when Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson came on. You know, Russ kind of comes on

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Speaker 1: as Russell Wilson go Hawks, and it feels like Russ

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Speaker 1: is just trying to get through the interview and being polite.

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Speaker 1: But when I realized that he was ready to talk, well,

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Speaker 1: now we have something here. So I go in thinking,

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Speaker 1: all right, can I chip away at something, can I

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Speaker 1: get something? And that sometimes you just take a swing,

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Speaker 1: you swing for the fences, and that's when I brought

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Speaker 1: up the number of times he's been sacked each year,

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Speaker 1: and then it just opened up the floodgates Scottie Pippen.

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Speaker 1: When Scottie Pippen was on, I'm like, I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: him set the record straight that it seems like he's

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Speaker 1: calling Phil Jackson a racist, and I brought it up

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Speaker 1: to him, and then I realized that he was calling

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Speaker 1: Phil Jackson a racist. Now I know I have a

589
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: different interview there, and he talked about Michael Jordan and

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Speaker 1: Jordan's staging things during the last dance. Then you find

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Speaker 1: you have something there and how much do you exploit it.

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Speaker 1: Like at some point I felt bad for Scottie Pippen

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Speaker 1: in that interview in the moment, and my goal was

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Speaker 1: not to embarrass him. I wanted to help him clarify

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Speaker 1: that he called Phil Jackson to races and then he

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Speaker 1: was like yeah, and I was like, Okay, now it

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Speaker 1: feels like I can ask you anything, and he did.

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Speaker 1: He did open up, But I don't want to take

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Speaker 1: advantage of you. And there was a point where I

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Speaker 1: thought I might be doing that. Yeah, bo one. Thing

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Speaker 1: I remember about Tiger in the early two thousands when

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Speaker 1: he was the greatest golfer on earth and almost was

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Speaker 1: always perfect. Remember he would go into those press conferences.

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Speaker 1: Let's say he had a round where he shot like

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Speaker 1: a seventy three, so I'm like a reporter. He didn't

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Speaker 1: like being questioned about golf. That would make Tiger matt hey.

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Speaker 1: On the fourth hole, he used a three wood off

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Speaker 1: the tea. What was your you've used? So I shouldn't

609
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: used three one. Remember Tiger would go back at people

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Speaker 1: back in the daily so what what what are you

611
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Speaker 1: getting caddy for me? You want to tell me what

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00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: you That was an interesting time. Yeah, And I had

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Speaker 1: a moment with Bill Parcels one time, and he you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking football questions. But I think at some

615
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Speaker 1: point he said how many how many games have you coached?

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Speaker 1: And I got, all right, no, no, I got, but

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Speaker 1: you gotta fight. You gotta fight back because I always

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Speaker 1: felt that they'll respect you if you fight back. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna you're gonna say something. Just sit there

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Speaker 1: and just let him go. In Russell Westbrook last week

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Speaker 1: with the writer for the La Times, you know, stand

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Speaker 1: in there, ask your question. Now, see what happens. Phone

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Speaker 1: calls coming up. John Smoltz will stop by. We'll get

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Speaker 1: his thoughts on the new technology in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: Are we getting to the point where the modern technology

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Speaker 1: with the catcher signaling what pitch location? Are we getting

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Speaker 1: closer to robotic umpires? Because I think we are. John

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Speaker 1: Smoltz joins us. Next Dan Patrick show, I was sort

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Speaker 1: of a dramatic. Did you feel that's very dramatic. I

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Speaker 1: think we're getting close to robotic umpires. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: John smarts about that. All three kind of had a

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Speaker 1: sixty minutes tease. You know, like you didn't this is

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Speaker 1: going to change your life. Stay through it and what

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Speaker 1: are you doing your Mike Sheshevsky thing there. That's good.

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Speaker 1: Those things of what the robot forces would be, that's

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Speaker 1: a ball. Okay, thank you. I'm Dan Patrick. I take

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Speaker 1: us on the program. John Tougher to play golf against

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Speaker 1: Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan, Well, they're both the same

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Speaker 1: in the sense that their will to win and talk

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Speaker 1: trash at the same time as second to none. I

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Speaker 1: guess Larry Bird would be a throw him in there

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Speaker 1: in the basketball world, but tougher to play against Tiger

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Speaker 1: Woods because he's almost impossible to be How many strokes

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Speaker 1: do you get when you play against Tiger? How many

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Speaker 1: do you get when you play against Jordan. So in

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Speaker 1: the heyday of me being in better shape and Tiger

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Speaker 1: being the number one player of the world, we would

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Speaker 1: have this fun little match where we'd have three different matches.

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Speaker 1: He'd give me one a side in one match, two

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Speaker 1: side in the second match, and three a side in

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Speaker 1: the third match. Now, he would win about ninety percent

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Speaker 1: of the time in the one a side. I would

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Speaker 1: win most of the time at three a side, and

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Speaker 1: it always came down to two a side. So I

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Speaker 1: guess the two side was the match that would always

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Speaker 1: come down to that last hole. And I would say

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Speaker 1: that most of the times I had a seven to

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Speaker 1: ten foot or to either win the match or push

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Speaker 1: the match, and he would chuckle and know that I

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Speaker 1: was probably going to miss it, and I did what

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Speaker 1: kind of trash talk though? Are you getting? Oh? He's

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Speaker 1: I mean? I never would say, like the common mistake

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Speaker 1: everyone would make when they played with Tiger the first time.

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Speaker 1: They feel like, ah, you know, you gotta mix and

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Speaker 1: match and you gotta, you know, make yourself feel good

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Speaker 1: by talking. You don't do that. You just you zip it.

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Speaker 1: You don't fire up a guy who has the capability

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Speaker 1: of pushing the pedal down. And there was there was

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Speaker 1: only one time that I found myself falling into that trap.

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Speaker 1: I my buddy got a hole in one when we

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Speaker 1: were playing with him, and the scorecard on the fivesome

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Speaker 1: for the par three read five, four, three two one.

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Speaker 1: Those were the scores. So I took the ball out

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Speaker 1: of my out of the hole that my buddy made

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Speaker 1: the hole in one, and I picked it up and

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Speaker 1: I said, what's more believable when we get back home,

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Speaker 1: the fact that you got a hole in one or

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Speaker 1: that you beat Tiger by four on one hole? Tiger

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Speaker 1: made the five, and he gave me a gesture and

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Speaker 1: proceeded to go twelve under in the next twenty two holes.

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Speaker 1: All I did was make that statement, and it lit

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Speaker 1: a match, and it was like the wildest ride you've

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Speaker 1: ever seen in your life to try to hang on.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I didn't win that match because twelve under

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Speaker 1: and twenty two next holes is pretty tough to beat.

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Speaker 1: I would think Jordan would be a better trash talker

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Speaker 1: than Tiger. Oh, no doubt. I mean no doubt, because

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Speaker 1: that's not his sport, right, I mean, that's can do this, John.

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Speaker 1: Can you do baseball trash talking making fun of Jordan's

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Speaker 1: baseball career while you're playing golf against him? No, no, no, no, see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the resumes are so incredible that when I

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Speaker 1: first played with Michael and he was still playing for

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Speaker 1: the Bulls and I was just getting going for the Braves. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I didn't have a resume. There was nothing to kind

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Speaker 1: of be proud of, especially when your team loses a

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Speaker 1: hundred games every year. Well, on the last hole of

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Speaker 1: the match we were playing at in Chicago, he's standing

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Speaker 1: over a thirty footer and he goes, this is no

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Speaker 1: big deal, I mean, and he starts reciting his resume

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Speaker 1: six time. This four time that. I mean, it was

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Speaker 1: impressive just to hear if someone else was saying, and

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Speaker 1: he made the put So now I've got a seven

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Speaker 1: footer to win the match, and I stand over the

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Speaker 1: putt and I've got nothing to say. I said losing record,

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Speaker 1: we'd like, you know, there was nowhere to go. Luckily

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Speaker 1: I made the put. But over the years, there's nobody

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Speaker 1: that wills himself that isn't a professional golfer than Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 1: And he he will let you have it, and it

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Speaker 1: is an absolute um. It's the it's the greatest grind

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Speaker 1: of playing a sport that's not your sport, Tigers, that's

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Speaker 1: in a different atmosphere. I mean, for him to talk

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Speaker 1: trashing golf is like you know, I mean, anybody else

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Speaker 1: is making a layup, so you just stay away from that.

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Speaker 1: But Jordan famously loves to play for a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: J Jordan will will play for anything. He just doesn't

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Speaker 1: care what it is. He's just gonna beat you. Well,

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Speaker 1: what did you guys? Did you play for money? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's insignificant compared to to to what his ability

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Speaker 1: to want to win. Like if it's a dollar or

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Speaker 1: it's a billion dollars, it's no different to Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 1: He just wants to beat you. And that's the competitive

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Speaker 1: drive that we all when we were in our heyday

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Speaker 1: in our own sport, love to be part of. Right,

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Speaker 1: So when you're doing something else, that you're not known for. Well,

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00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: that same competitive drive kicks in and you just you

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Speaker 1: want to beat whoever you're playing. It doesn't matter. And

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm telling you. I've never seen two individuals

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Speaker 1: that were more driven obviously than those two in their

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Speaker 1: capacity to just be dominant and and and love it.

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Speaker 1: And of course he's seen it play out with with

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Speaker 1: Jordan's documentary and then obviously what what Tiger's doing. You

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Speaker 1: feel like I felt like I didn't there's I mean

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Speaker 1: for the longest time, like I don't belong in these groups.

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Speaker 1: I don't belong in that sphere of of excellence. That's

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Speaker 1: how that's how incredible the aura is when you're around

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Speaker 1: or when you're around those two guys. He's John. John

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Speaker 1: will be on the call Red Sox Yankees that will

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Speaker 1: be tomorrow four Eastern on FS one. Pitch com the

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Speaker 1: keypad for the catcher, it feels to me like an

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Speaker 1: overreaction to the signs stealing controversy. Your thoughts on if

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Speaker 1: your catcher had a keypad and was signaling pitch and

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Speaker 1: location to you on the mountain. I think there's more

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Speaker 1: of an issue of trying to speed the game up

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Speaker 1: than there is of that. There's definitely the component of

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Speaker 1: trying to eliminate that business of what we dealt with

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Speaker 1: the years ago. And I think that's fine. So whatever

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Speaker 1: moves the game faster. I know, you know the pitch

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Speaker 1: clock's coming, but I'll tell you it's interesting. And the

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Speaker 1: day that we're playing today, I would rather have it reverse.

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Speaker 1: Like in our day, we were calling all the pitches,

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Speaker 1: So it'd be better if it was a way to

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Speaker 1: do it in reverse and you tell the pitcher catcher

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Speaker 1: what's coming, so then there's no reason. There's no reason

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Speaker 1: to shake off right. Today, less guys call pitches, less

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Speaker 1: guys are thinking about reaction to the hitter. What does

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Speaker 1: the hitters swing look like? They're more robotic with information,

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Speaker 1: So it really encompasses around the catcher to try to

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Speaker 1: gas or come up with a game plan that he

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Speaker 1: and the picture can be locked in so that there

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Speaker 1: isn't a lot of time wasted and shaking signs. But

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Speaker 1: if you think about it, and you're the picture, and

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Speaker 1: veteran guys probably call most of their game, you know

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna throw. So if you could give that signal,

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Speaker 1: which we did in variety of ways with motions with

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Speaker 1: the glove or different things that we coded so that

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Speaker 1: you didn't have to give signs, then nobody could steal anything. Okay,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, does take me back to when you're

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Speaker 1: with the Braves. So you got Maddox and Glavin in

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Speaker 1: you and you're you're calling the game, not Hobbie Lopez

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Speaker 1: or whoever was catching you. So how do you how

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Speaker 1: do you signal in fastball and the location? So there

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Speaker 1: would be ways to do it with your glove, there

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Speaker 1: would be ways to do it with for example, now

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Speaker 1: theer still has to give the suggestion and what he thinks,

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Speaker 1: but you're giving the answers. So if he gives fastball

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Speaker 1: and you want curveball, you can wipe above your belt

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Speaker 1: to add one. You could wipe below your belt to

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Speaker 1: subtract one. There are different movements you can do, you

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Speaker 1: know from but for the most part back then, you

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Speaker 1: just wanted to be together in your calling, and most

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Speaker 1: of the times you were. And my point is the

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Speaker 1: pitcher knew what he was going to throw, so short

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Speaker 1: of telling to catcher verbally, he had to still rely

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Speaker 1: on signs. And then those signs, however, you shook. Most

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Speaker 1: people just shook and waited for the next set of signs.

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Speaker 1: But the problem back then, and the problem even you

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Speaker 1: know the sequence of signs on the field, you can

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Speaker 1: steal if a catcher doesn't do a very good job

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Speaker 1: matter you know, the emphatic three down in the middle

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Speaker 1: of four fingers sometimes gives it away, or the way

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Speaker 1: he sets up. So what this is going to do

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Speaker 1: is at least eliminate all of that. On the field,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to decode unless a

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Speaker 1: pitcher tips or a catcher's stance dictates what kind of

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Speaker 1: pitch is coming. When a catcher got wider, it's usually

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Speaker 1: an off speed pitch coming. When a catcher got narrow,

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Speaker 1: of course it'd be fat. So there's there's little tricks

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Speaker 1: of the train. But this is a good step in

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Speaker 1: the way that will allow the game to move faster,

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Speaker 1: and that's really the ultimate goal is to get the

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Speaker 1: game moving caster so the sign sequence and the decoding

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Speaker 1: doesn't take more time away from the action. We're moving

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Speaker 1: closer to automated strike zone. John Dan, I'm fearful we are,

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Speaker 1: but I'm I'm gonna put a little caveat in there

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Speaker 1: that if it comes into the game, they better be

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00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: prepared to lower the strike zone because what you see

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Speaker 1: on TV, let's say, is I don't know ninety eight

842
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: percent accurate that the strike zone box that you see

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Speaker 1: on your TV. So imagine the top of the strike

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Speaker 1: zone at ninety eight miles an hour. A baseball in

845
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: its diameter, of course, is going to be bigger than

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Speaker 1: that thin line. If you pitch at the top of

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Speaker 1: the strike zone with an automatic strike zone, the hitters

848
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Speaker 1: have no chance. And then you throw in a curveball

849
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: that comes to the top. I know it's two dimensional

850
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: and the technology is pretty good, but my fear would

851
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: be everyone would think that would give the hitter an

852
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: advantage because the strike zone would get smaller for the pitchers.

853
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: In reality, it would be the opposite, because the pitchers

854
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: are going to realize, especially the ones that exist today,

855
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: if I can throw the ball at the top of

856
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: the strike zone with velocity and they're getting that call,

857
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: it's over. So if you lower the strike zone, you

858
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: give everybody a legitimate chance to handle the velocity that

859
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: exists today, and the hitter can. Then you know, it's

860
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: more it's down and it could be a little bit wider.

861
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: But if it's taller, the electric strike zone would be

862
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: so difficult to hit. So is it coming more than likely,

863
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: But hopefully it comes with a lower strike zone that

864
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: gives everybody a legitimate chance. And with a lower strike zone,

865
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: by the way, you're gonna have less walks, I believe,

866
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: because when everyone's trying to throw the ball up to

867
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: a spot that nobody can hit, guess what happens. Walks

868
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: come into play, hit batman's hits, batman's hit, batters come

869
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: into play, and then the inevitable ball down the middle.

870
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: Because the area of success is not great up there.

871
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: It would help every aspect of what I just said.

872
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: Great to talk to you. By the way, John Smoltz

873
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: led the league in blank category for three consecutive seasons. John,

874
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: can you guess the category you led the league for

875
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: three consecutive seasons? Oh? I sure, Ken, that would be

876
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: the WP category. It would be wild pitching? Yes, Can

877
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: I have the record for that? Will never be broken

878
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: in All Star Game history. I had three wild pitches

879
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: in one inning. Now, in my defense, I came in

880
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: with the bases loaded, Darren Dalton was catching me, not

881
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 1: familiar with my stuff. Two of them were not my fault.

882
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna sound like a cop out, but

883
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: he came out and apologized twice. The third one was

884
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: my fault. I cleared the basis. Those three runs were

885
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: charged to my teammate Steve Avery, and I had to

886
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: I didn't give up a run, and that record, I

887
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: think it can really only be tied. I don't think

888
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: it'll ever be broken. I came in with the bases loaded,

889
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: I left with nobody on base. I didn't give up

890
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: a run, but I had three well pitches. Well, congratulations John.

891
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: They great to talk to you, and we'll be watching tomorrow.

892
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: Red Sox Yankees had four Eastern nfs. One Thank you, John,

893
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: that's John Smolt. Yeah, those are great ideas, those are

894
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: great thoughts. They really are. Love talking to John. A

895
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: couple of phone calls in here. Let's see Mike in La.

896
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: Hi Mike, what's on your mind today? Hey Dan? How

897
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: you doing good? Bud? If by the way, forts, he's

898
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: the best if you. I'm talking about winners and losers.

899
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: I think we always remember Tyson losing more than Buster

900
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: Douglas beating him. That's fair shocking the world. And also

901
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: the second one would be Um Carlton fisk Um him

902
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: willing that home run. Always always remember, oh, thank you

903
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: for the phone call, Mike. That's a great call. Because

904
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: then the Red Sox and the Reds came back to

905
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: play a game seven, and the Reds won that. But

906
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: when you think Carlton fisk with that home run at Fenway,

907
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: stay fair, stay fair. They won that game but lost

908
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: the next night. Let's see JR and Arkansas. Hey Jr.

909
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Hey, I gotta commend the Riders.

910
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: They've done a good job on today's sell like they've

911
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 1: done in the past. But you know, there's some there's

912
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: some things who got to work on dan Um. We've

913
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: we've got to get Paully back going on this thirty

914
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: seconds of soccer that he used today. I really miss

915
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: that and uh Jr. It was five good seconds that

916
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: I was pushing it. It was five good seconds. Maybe

917
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: go thirty. But we also we gotta get some new

918
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: people doing doing some limericks and stats of the day.

919
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: You know, I like Ryan and Andrew, but maybe they

920
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: could write as some new guys um. But you know,

921
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: I do have to commend them one on Seemen's larger role.

922
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: I really do like Semen's larger role in the show.

923
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: It's really really good. All right, Well, thank you Jr. Yeah,

924
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: America's sweetheart and American Treasure Seaton and National Treasure, America's sweetheart.

925
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: We can keep stacking them on. Yeah, pretty impressive. Yeah, Paul.

926
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: Nothing tells the tale of our callers more than complimenting

927
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: Seaton while calling him Semen. Yeah in National Right, you

928
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: know that's somebody who's the show, right, Yes they do.

929
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: That's somebody who gets the show. Yes they do. Well done, Semen.

930
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: And as many times as I would tell my mom

931
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: that's not his name, she would still say, how Semen,

932
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: I go, it's Seaton, Mom, whatever, and I go okay,

933
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: And then you wanted to follow up by saying, no,

934
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: it's not whatever, mom, that's his name. Well, and then

935
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: I go okay, never, And then conveniently you seem to

936
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: forget what my real name was too. I really seen

937
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: it is. It is a funny thing about this place

938
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: where all of a sudden, I'm just as comfortable answering

939
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: to the names Patrick, Seton or Semen interchangeably. It really

940
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. And I think at the Christmas party one year,

941
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: I said we were in a group of people want

942
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: to go, hey, semen, you wanna whatever. It was like

943
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: a bear like people were like, I think you just

944
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: called it. There was one time we had in the

945
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: New York Man Cave. We had like the vice president

946
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: of a huge sponsor at the time coming in and

947
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: they're all this brought in a dozen people, right yeah,

948
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: they're going through and talking. It's like, oh yeah, we're

949
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 1: gonna bree up, We're gonna close this deal and blah

950
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: blah blah. That's all the supportant stuff. And you're like, hey, semen,

951
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: what was that thing we did last year? And I

952
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: could see the dude just do like a doubletake, like

953
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: what and had I answered without a beat. I don't

954
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: even know if I registered necessarily that you called me

955
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: semen in front of all these people, but it was

956
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: just like, oh, yeah, no big deal. Thanks for listening

957
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch

958
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or

959
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,200
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960
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,680
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961
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,480
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962
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R or stream

963
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: us Live on the Peacock act no to Big a

964
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: NBC Sports Golf Channel analyst joining us from Augusta. Noe

965
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: to how are you today? I'm doing great. I'm so

966
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: excited to be on your show. I dressed up for you.

967
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: How does that sound? I like it. I like it.

968
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: Shirt and tie. I like that he and Dan we

969
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: go back a long way. You've got to promise me

970
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: one thing. If I ever go into a coma, don't

971
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: discuss it on the show. Please. Okay, do you do

972
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: you have something of importance that you could loan me

973
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: and then I could keep it, and then if you

974
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: went into a coma, then I would just hold on. Yeah,

975
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: it seems like a very sticky situation. Let's just not

976
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: go there. Okay. I'd rather talk about my buddy and

977
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: the Masters, and this is a great week we're having here. Okay.

978
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: The best piece of memorabilia you have from Tiger is what,

979
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: um you know? I have? You know, each of the

980
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: flags that he won during the Tiger Slam. I have

981
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: one signed, each of one signed by him, all in

982
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: the sort of the same pile. I like that. I

983
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: like that pretty simple, but still you know unique if

984
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: you put them all together. How much time did you

985
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 1: spend with him yesterday or last night? Not a whole

986
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: lot um, you know, with the pandemic. The most time

987
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: that I'd spent with him was during the PNC Championship

988
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: this past December. I got a chance to catch up

989
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: during the practice round. I had my son with me.

990
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: Charlie was there. They're the exact same age, and you know,

991
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: Tiger knows my kids, and you know, he was there

992
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 1: when they were very young, as I was for Charlie.

993
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: So it was just kind of a fun, relaxed atmosphere

994
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: to talk about everything, the accident, the rehab, you know,

995
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: what the future holds, and certainly didn't think we'd be

996
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 1: sitting here talking about what's transpired over the last forty

997
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: eight hours. When do you think Tiger got it in

998
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: his mind that this was actually possible to play in

999
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: the Masters. I think when he saw the quality of

1000
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: shots that he was hitting at P ANDC. I mean,

1001
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: I know, he's riding in a cart and you know

1002
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: it's a it's a fun family type of event, but

1003
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, he hit some high quality shots. He had

1004
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: a little pop in the bat, a little bit more

1005
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: than I thought was going to be there as far

1006
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: as clubhead. Speed hit some wonderful approach shots with his irons,

1007
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: and so it made me sort of step step back

1008
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: a little bit and like, you know, if he could

1009
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: just figure out how to walk seventy two to ninety holes,

1010
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of people say, well, seventy

1011
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: two holes is the tournament, but you got to play

1012
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: practice rounds too, so um, you know, that was the

1013
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,479
Speaker 1: whole part of the equation, was a ninety hole type

1014
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: of is it possible? And he, you know, told me

1015
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: shortly thereafter that he's taken no days off. Every single day.

1016
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: There's some part of his schedule that's dedicated to this

1017
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: rehabilitative process with the future being unknown, but obviously a

1018
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: pencil circle around the masters, which you know has made

1019
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: many players over the decades do some pretty crazy things. Well,

1020
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: you've known him for such a long time. There are

1021
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the world of sports where

1022
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: you say, well, that'll never happen, or that could never happen,

1023
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: or that that guy could ever win, or that team

1024
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: can't win. You know, we've learned not. I've learned not

1025
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: to say that, whether it's Tom Brady or go down

1026
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: the list of great players of all time, and here

1027
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: we are with Tiger. I had a friend who was

1028
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: at Medalist where Tiger plays at practices, and he said

1029
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: he can hit shots, he can't walk, and I thought, well,

1030
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: that he can't play Augusta. And then all of a

1031
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: sudden he gets to Augusta and he's hitting shots but

1032
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: he's able to walk a little bit. So what what

1033
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: is that experience like for him? You know, you would

1034
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: think hitting shots at Augusta that's the hard part. It's

1035
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: the hard part is in between hitting those shots at

1036
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: Augusta for Tiger, right, and you know, just to put

1037
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: things into focus, you know, this is one of the hiliest,

1038
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: if not the hiliest course the players will face all year.

1039
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: You know, the only other one might might be the

1040
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: Plantation course at Coppolua that starts the year off at

1041
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: the tournament the Champions, and so you know, this is

1042
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: not an easy walk, you know. I I thought that

1043
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: there was a better chance that he would show up

1044
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: at Saint Andrew's. It's it's a very flat golf course,

1045
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: it's not as long as Augusta, and so you know

1046
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: that might have been a better fit. But like I said,

1047
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: the Masters kind of makes players do do crazy things

1048
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: and push their bodies to the limit, and Tigers very

1049
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: comfortable with pushing his body, putting the time in doing

1050
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: the rehab, and you know, he has access to all

1051
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: the available treatment modalities that exist in sport are all

1052
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: at his house. You know, cold pools and saunas and

1053
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: different types of hyperbaric chambers and things that he can

1054
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: just you know, add to his whole recovery regimen, which

1055
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: which I think has helped him get to this point.

1056
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, he's put himself

1057
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: through a lot of discomfort to get here. I've said this,

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00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, in the last two hours it felt like

1059
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: as I'm watching him that he's already won that that

1060
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: he set the goal of getting here, and then he

1061
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: played well and he heard the crowd, he saw the

1062
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: fellow competitors like that, there was a sense of that's

1063
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: a victory. Now his sites are set on another victory.

1064
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: You know, Tiger as well as anybody can you sense

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00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: that during rehab, my goal was to play in the

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00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: Masters as a victory. Well, I think today will be

1067
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: the telling round where where whether or not he feels

1068
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: like he can actually win. You can you can train

1069
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: for an event. You can train as much as you

1070
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: want for a competitive game, a cycling race around a

1071
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: golf but until you actually go through it with all

1072
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: the pressure of the stress, the adrenaline, the highs, the lows. Uh,

1073
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, they were out there for a long time.

1074
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: Yesterday the round took a long time. And he said

1075
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: it in his post round comments. He's like, you know,

1076
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: I'm extremely exhausted, and I'm as tired as I thought

1077
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: i'd be. I'm sore. And now he's he had about

1078
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 1: twenty to twenty one hours to recover and today we'll

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00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: see within the first probably three or four holes, whether

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00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: or not it's all still there, which I think will

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00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: be some compelling television No to Be Gay NBC Sports

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00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: Golf Channel analysts joining us from AUGUSTA, do you think

1083
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: Tiger can win? I do. He's not in a player

1084
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: that's going to show up to an event, and I

1085
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: know he's talked about it. You know, he coined the

1086
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: phrase second sucks, and he still believes that, like he

1087
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: wants to come out and not sort of have people

1088
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: celebrate him or him celebrate himself for overcoming these physical

1089
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: hurdles and injuries. But you know, he shows up here

1090
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: in as peak condition as he can, with his game

1091
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: as much intact as possible, and he went out there

1092
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: and he beat players that have played over the last

1093
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: two years which was his last start, have played over

1094
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: forty events, some high caliber players justin Thomas colin Morikawa,

1095
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, players that have won majors and and you know,

1096
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: are at the top of their game. He went out

1097
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: there and he outperformed him, which I think is extraordinary.

1098
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: How many contenders do you think we have to win

1099
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: it all? Right now? Usually every year it's about a

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00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: dozen players that can really can ten and win. Here

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01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: at Augusta, it's you know, you throw the first timers out,

1102
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: ninety one players in the field. There's twenty first timers.

1103
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: You throw sort of the players that have aged out,

1104
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: the couples, the longers, the alot of balls, and then

1105
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: you throw out the players that aren't playing very well.

1106
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, you know, maximum

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01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: you're looking at fifteen to twenty. But I usually try

1108
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: and circle about ten to twelve names on that list,

1109
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: and it's a list of usual suspects. You can't this

1110
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: is not an event. You can come from off the

1111
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: pace very well you know, winners have proven that you

1112
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: need to be within five shots after the first round,

1113
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: and if you're not, you've pretty much eliminate eliminated yourself

1114
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: from from the winning. It feels like Tiger's embracing the

1115
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: media just a little bit more than he used to,

1116
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: Noda Dan, He's embracing everything a little more than he

1117
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,479
Speaker 1: used to. You know, he's really approaching golf and life

1118
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: with a sense of appreciation. I think a near death

1119
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: experience would would hopefully do that to most people. He

1120
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: realizes that if it wasn't him, you know, there was

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01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: probably a better than fifty percent chance they would have

1122
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: amputated his leg. After the accident fourteen months ago, and

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01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: the fact that it was Tiger Woods, they spent fourteen

1124
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: hours in surgery trying to save the leg. They saved it.

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01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: He was in such bad condition. Let's not forget that

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01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: they couldn't move him for three months. You know, this

1127
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: is a guy that has the axis and the means

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01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: to everything, to medical and transportation and private jets and everything,

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01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: and they still could not move him for three months,

1130
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: and it precluded him from being able to see his family.

1131
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: And it just kind of speaks to the seriousness of

1132
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: the injury and the fact that he's here and in

1133
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: a competitive frame and only four shots back of the league.

1134
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here telling you this, still dumbfounded by how

1135
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: this all happened. What was that call or text like

1136
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: when you were told Tiger had been in the accident.

1137
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: It was a dark, dark time. Your your mind starts racing,

1138
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: and then you start texting and calling your own network

1139
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: to see if you could get any information on you know,

1140
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: good he survive, Is he gonna survive? What's what's the outlook?

1141
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean, um, you really just start to go through

1142
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: sort of the worst scenarios in your head, and um,

1143
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, that was the time where I I, you know,

1144
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: I thought there was a good chance I was going

1145
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: to lose one of my best friends in the world,

1146
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: and it was a scary point. And the fact that

1147
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: he came out of there, you know, with the leg

1148
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: and was gonna you know, had a good recovery on

1149
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: the horizon was enough for me. But you know, he

1150
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: he just has this burning desire to compete and to

1151
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: get out there and to push himself. And I think

1152
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: that came from again a big part simply because he

1153
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: was so much better than everybody else at his peak

1154
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: period that he had to learn how to self motivate,

1155
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: and there's really no reason for him to be back

1156
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: here in terms of he does not need to prove

1157
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: anything to anyone. The twenty nineteen Masters win was his

1158
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: drop the mic moment in terms of, look, I've won,

1159
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: I proved you I can come back, and now I'm

1160
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: out of here, Like he could have ridden off into

1161
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: the sunset very easily, but that's just not how he's wired.

1162
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: He felt like he had some more good rounds in him,

1163
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: and he himself told me, he's like, look, it's not

1164
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: going to be the same version of Tiger that you

1165
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: saw early in my career. It's going to be a

1166
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: different version. And I'm gonna have to piece these rounds together.

1167
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: And you just saw him yesterday. I mean he was

1168
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: putting the ball in places that when he was in

1169
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: trouble seventh and the ninth hole he had really bad drives.

1170
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: Instead of trying to hit the miraculous million dollars shot,

1171
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: he laid up to a spot where he could chip

1172
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,919
Speaker 1: and he pieced together two great parts there which helped

1173
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: contribute to that overall score. So he's not trying to

1174
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: pull the rabbit out of the hat. At least he

1175
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: didn't yesterday. There will come a time where he will

1176
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: have to do it, but he's not going to do

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01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: that on a regular basis. It's going to be a

1178
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: different type of game he has to play. Augusta, the

1179
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: Masters finally got around to celebrating Lee Elder now rest

1180
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: in peace. He broke the color barrier. You're the first

1181
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: Native American to ever play at the Masters? Is that right?

1182
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: That's correct? Yes? How is that celebrated? I mean, I

1183
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: putting in your world? Is that a big deal? It was?

1184
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: It celebrated? Not really? Um. You know, if I was

1185
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: a basketball player coming from an American Indian community, I think, um,

1186
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: I would sort of have a bigger reach. But because

1187
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: golf's not all that prevalent in our reservation communities, it's

1188
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: because it's just by nature, it's a very tough sport

1189
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: to access, it's it's expensive. It you know, went sort

1190
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: of unnoticed in a lot of areas. But there's a

1191
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: small group of people out there that sort of appreciate

1192
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: sort of the things I've done in terms of breaking

1193
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: down some barriers and setting new standards about what's possible

1194
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,919
Speaker 1: for a young Native American kid out there that wants

1195
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: to be in broadcasting, that wants to be in professional sports,

1196
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: that wants to go to a school like Stanford and

1197
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: get an economics degree. And that's really all I'm trying

1198
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: to do. I don't approach life with any expectation. I

1199
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: just try and do the best I can with what

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01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: I have and the opportunities that are giving me. To

1201
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: try and get more of these young Native kids that

1202
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: are facing some pretty dire circumstance in their own life

1203
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis, a chance to dream

1204
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: big and hopefully, you know, do what they need to

1205
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: do to reach their dreams. Always great to talk to you,

1206
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Yeah, it's great being on your show, Dan,

1207
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: great weekend. That's a note of the Gang Golf Channel

1208
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: analyst live from the Masters. I always enjoy talking to them,

1209
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: and yes, uh no to the first full blood Native

1210
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: American to ever play at the Masters. And they got

1211
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: around to celebrating Lee Elder and Charlie Sifford. But Lee Elder,

1212
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: what a what a wonderful man, my wonderful person. And

1213
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: I remember being at this party they Monday after the

1214
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,919
Speaker 1: Masters with Hoodie and the Blowfish a couple of years ago,

1215
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: and he was just there and I went into a

1216
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: room and it was empty except for Lee was there.

1217
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: And I grabbed my son and I said, I want

1218
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: you to meet somebody. And I just said, you know,

1219
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: this is Leelder. And I wanted him to talk to Leelder.

1220
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: And then when we left, he said, you know who

1221
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: is Leelder? And I said he broke the color barrier

1222
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: at Augusta. And he said, oh my gosh. She said,

1223
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, nobody knows that he's here. I said, I

1224
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: know that, but I said, Lee's okay with that. I

1225
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: think Lee probably that's sort of the way he approached golf.

1226
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: You know, nobody noticed him until they finally noticed him

1227
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: at Augusta to have him with the ceremonial first tea shot.

1228
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: But really a special person, Leelder, and link Soul is

1229
01:06:55,280 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: helping out his wife who has some medical problems. So

1230
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: you can go to linksol dot com slash Lee Elder

1231
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: if you'd like to contribute to a great cause. Kevin

1232
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: and North Carolina. Kevin, welcome to the program. What do

1233
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: you have for me today? Hey? Dan Um six seven,

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01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: two or three fifty. My question, you have long time,

1235
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: been been listening to the show. First question is what

1236
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: happened to Fill the Show Killer? We left him at

1237
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: the ESPN. Okay, I think he's still there, but yeah,

1238
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: when I left, I brought Seaton with me and Fritzie

1239
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: with me, and Fill the Show Killer was firmly embedded

1240
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: in ESPN Radio. Fair enough, uh. And my second question

1241
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: is what is one interview that you would love to

1242
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: do or love to have back redo. I don't know

1243
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: if I have an answer for that. I do look

1244
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: back to Chique myself, but I know I don't get

1245
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: the luxury of I wish I got to do that again,

1246
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: and I know there are some I was a little

1247
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: combative with David Stern, and I probably should have been

1248
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: a little more respectful to him, but he was combative

1249
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: back to me, and that was our relationship. I never

1250
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: wanted to be putting myself in a position that was

1251
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: equal to a commissioner. And I've had and have great

1252
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: reverence for David Stern. What he did, you know to

1253
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: the NBA. And we had a great relationship, but it

1254
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: was give and take, and we'd give each other some grief.

1255
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: I just didn't want people to read into something that

1256
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: maybe wasn't there, like I was being a little cavalier

1257
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: with my attitude towards him. I'm sure there was. I

1258
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: was combative with Pete Rose the first time I sat

1259
01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: down with him after you know, the gambling stuff, because

1260
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: I made it personal because I said, you embarrassed me,

1261
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: you embarrassed Cincinnati, and really that that's not my job.

1262
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: My job was to do the interview. I wouldn't have

1263
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: done the OJ interview because at the time OJ had

1264
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: been found not guilty. And this is probably twenty years ago,

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Speaker 1: and that's when I thought, well, okay, let me let

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Speaker 1: me talk to OJ the football player, because I grew

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01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: up watching OJ and he's one of those I remember

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Speaker 1: the moment when I saw him against Ohio State and

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Speaker 1: I just said, that's that's a different running back than

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen him. And Gale Stairs, Damn, I'd be

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Speaker 1: happy to sit down again. I don't know. And all

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Speaker 1: I was doing I was talking football, and that's when

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Speaker 1: we went thirty minutes that we had to change tapes

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Speaker 1: and then it was just OJ and myself sitting next

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Speaker 1: to each other and there's silence and then and that's

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Speaker 1: when he said, do you think I killed those people.

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Speaker 1: And then I said what people or which people? I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: which ones are you referring to? You know what you're

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Speaker 1: doing when you did that. I don't know if he knew,

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Speaker 1: but he might have. And then and then I said yes,

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Speaker 1: And then that was it. And then we started rolling

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Speaker 1: the tape and we did the interview. That's the only

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01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: part of it that had to do with, you know,

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Speaker 1: killing his ex wife and Ryan Goldman. But I just couldn't.

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01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't let it go for some reason that I

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Speaker 1: was in the moment. He wanted to talk about it.

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01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: He wanted to convince me he was innocent. And then

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Speaker 1: we were just sitting there and we're not even making

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Speaker 1: small talk, and I, you know, I made the mistake

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01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,799
Speaker 1: of pitching that as an interview, and I I regret

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01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: that because nobody cared about OJ Simpson talking about USC football.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm all bummed out. Great, yeah, great,