WEBVTT - Draft Show: Sifting Scenarios

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<v Speaker 1>Is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and now your host, Kyle Yeoman's. It is Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>February sixteenth, and we are alive from the Star in Frisco,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy one days away from the NFL Draft in Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are back on the Draft Show presented by

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<v Speaker 1>Miller Lite here from the SWBC studios. We've got Bobby

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<v Speaker 1>Belt back in the building. Guy Brian brought us, of

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<v Speaker 1>course back in the building, and Aisha Morrison back in

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<v Speaker 1>the building. We're all together again in one spot. How's

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<v Speaker 1>everybody doing great? Never better, never better? How is your

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl? Brian? How is my super Bowl? You're good?

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<v Speaker 1>You did it? Goes okay, it was okay, you did

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<v Speaker 1>a good job. It was okay. I thought it is

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<v Speaker 1>the grand post. We closed on a strong note, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh went out on a high note. Yep, yep, tried

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<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, so it didn't suck so bad. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>ain'tle a loud of y'all. Like seeing Philly Lows, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know what off seasons sky a little

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<v Speaker 1>better for me. Oh yeah, in my opinion, makes it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit easier. We didn't hurt as bad. I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to buy souvenirs without any Kansas City or

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<v Speaker 1>Philly logos on it, and that's a hard task to

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<v Speaker 1>have to do it a super Bowl they didn't have,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Generics they did. I went out, had to buy,

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<v Speaker 1>had to buy, had to go to the Aaron Andrews line. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this was a gift for a lady there, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it was like I had to go to the Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Andrews route where she puts out Super Bowl clothing without

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<v Speaker 1>logos on it. I found there was one shirt I

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<v Speaker 1>saw on the gift shop at the Arizona Airport that

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<v Speaker 1>was just said super Bowl. Yeah, that just said XCEL whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>x L V I. I are you good with all

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<v Speaker 1>those Roman numerous Man, I wasn't ntil super Bowl forty.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you started going like, Okay, why isn't so

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<v Speaker 1>it's XL it's ten minus fifty, And then I started

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<v Speaker 1>getting all messed up, and he gets really weird because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever he went to forty it was XL. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to you just got an L now, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's just lv II, got it. Yeah, very interesting. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk some draft stuff, of course being on the

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<v Speaker 1>Draft Show, but we're gonna really hit some scenarios for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys in this show. I love that segment number three,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go through scenarios of first and second round

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<v Speaker 1>potentials and I ran through six different simulations and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna choose which one we feel like fits the best,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can ask questions if you wanted to switch

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<v Speaker 1>a prospect out, you could maybe if he was available,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can kind of talk about it when we

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<v Speaker 1>get there. But I want to start by something that

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Dane and I talked about yesterday, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>really prioritizing picks and how you can shuffle your board

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<v Speaker 1>around whenever those picks are available based on value in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft and where you can find that value. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about how free agency can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>affect that, Brian, because we said yesterday you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to window dress your board, right, but you also don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to ignore value where the draft is coming to you, right.

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<v Speaker 1>How does that change whenever you go and get some

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<v Speaker 1>guys to plug some of these holes in free agency

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<v Speaker 1>early on. I think the team that you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some teams that are super aggressive early in free agency.

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<v Speaker 1>The first two three days you can kind of fill

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of what you know, maybe it prevents

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<v Speaker 1>you from having to go out and use draft picks.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, Okay, we're going to spend money on this

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<v Speaker 1>particular position because we feel like this other position is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty weak. You know, you could kind of or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, listen, we just can't get a guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft that's going to be as good for us here.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think that you have to be very

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<v Speaker 1>mindful of that. The team like the Cowboys that tends

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of let the first week of the draft

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<v Speaker 1>go and then they bottom fish at that point. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean bottom fish in a bad I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of like let the market kind of run

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<v Speaker 1>its course and then they go in and grab particular

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<v Speaker 1>players the way they grab Curse and guys like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then you know, but there's certain teams out

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<v Speaker 1>there that absolutely love to draft. I mean, they just

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<v Speaker 1>love to draft. They free agency. Yeah, you pointed at

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<v Speaker 1>this one issue finger went straight down to the and

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<v Speaker 1>she's absolutely right at this No, no, but that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I think there's some teams that are just

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<v Speaker 1>totally comfortable. If you're a bad drafting team, you probably

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<v Speaker 1>have to play in free agency. But if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>team that kind of has a handle on that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking with some guys this morning about compensatory picks,

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<v Speaker 1>the possibly of getting a next or four, a five,

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<v Speaker 1>and a six here. You know that, man, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's heaven for these guys. They love it. Give them

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<v Speaker 1>two fourth round picks, give them two fifth round picks,

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<v Speaker 1>give them two sixth round picks. They will make some hay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean we always talk, well, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to take all the picks. No, these cats here

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<v Speaker 1>will draft and and they're done at the last two

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll keep every single one of them too, is

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<v Speaker 1>what they'll do. So, you know, if you're a bad

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<v Speaker 1>drafting team. We were poor in the early two thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>We couldn't get the combinations between free agency and the

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<v Speaker 1>draft right. And what happened when when that, When that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>we just had to go all in on free agency

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<v Speaker 1>and that and that can hurt you. That can hurt you.

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<v Speaker 1>And so but these guys are very cap mindful of

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<v Speaker 1>where they're at. They've got a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got some flipping of switches. I know Bobby covers

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<v Speaker 1>this team from one oh five three the fan, He'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you there's gonna be switches that they have to flip.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to do this that to create money. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this team is more into drafting and signing their

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<v Speaker 1>own than going out and getting other players. I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think generally that's that's the way they like to

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<v Speaker 1>approach it now. Jerry talking and at Senior Bowls sounded

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<v Speaker 1>more open to doing some things in free agency. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably be Odell Beckham. Well, yeah, Odell,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's part of it. Yeah, that name Will. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the new Earl Thomas. And so you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the way Jerry talked at Senior Bowls sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>he's taking notice of Okay, like you know, you take

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<v Speaker 1>Philly and how they performed and the aggressive moves they made,

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<v Speaker 1>you take the aggressive moves that a team like the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams were last year made, and just to go through

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<v Speaker 1>outside like the Buccaneers, like go back through history I

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<v Speaker 1>had I've got I keep meaning to go look this

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<v Speaker 1>up again. Because it's relevant, I think, but it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe each of the last ten years, the team

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<v Speaker 1>that won the Super Bowl the previous offseason spent more

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteed money on an outside free agent than the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>spent that same offseason and guaranteed money on their whole

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<v Speaker 1>free agent class. And so, like I mean, you talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, when they went out the most they've splurged

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<v Speaker 1>was like twenty twenty, I think they gave out thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six million guaranteed outside free agents. Well, the Buccaneers that

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<v Speaker 1>you're acquired Tom Brady and he was more than thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six million guarantee that he made. Same thing. You go

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<v Speaker 1>back through the years, you know, one offseason it was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>when the Patriots won, Durrell Reevs got more guaranteed money

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<v Speaker 1>from the Patriots then Dallas's whole outside free agent class.

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<v Speaker 1>So not including the resigns and the guys you're keeping

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<v Speaker 1>on your own. So I think eventually you have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at that and go like, Okay, maybe there's a

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<v Speaker 1>happy medium, maybe we don't have to go this way,

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<v Speaker 1>but but you do got to feel like there's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be some sort of an evolution. I think at

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<v Speaker 1>some point but I you know, to me, when you

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<v Speaker 1>start to look at what happened and I saw this

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<v Speaker 1>and correct me if I'm wrong. Cowboys I think were

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<v Speaker 1>second in the league in games played by their rookies.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Kansas City was number one and Dallas was

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<v Speaker 1>number two. I don't know if that's the set that's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that sounds right. They need but see that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that's what they do, that's what they're that's their

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<v Speaker 1>whole mindset right there. Like they as long as they

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<v Speaker 1>keep drafting, well, I don't see this philosophy changing as

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<v Speaker 1>far as free agency feels like so much pressure you

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<v Speaker 1>put on your personality. But they but will lives for that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really does, and it appts resolutely. Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's something that they like and they enjoy that

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<v Speaker 1>person and they like that, that's great. But it's like

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<v Speaker 1>help him out a little, you know, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>like like Jaylen Tilbert for example. I mean Jaylen Tilbert

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<v Speaker 1>was drafted as a guy they expected in a third

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<v Speaker 1>round scenario to come in and play immediately. I would

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<v Speaker 1>have taken him in the second yeah, I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't work out. And what happened. You were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hamstrung that wide receiver for a good part

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<v Speaker 1>of the year and you had to go get a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like t Y Hilton. That's a move you had

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<v Speaker 1>to make. Well to me, I mean, I'm looking at you.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned like, can a guy come in that's a

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<v Speaker 1>free agent that's going to be better than any rookie

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<v Speaker 1>that you draft? And so when you do look at

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like we talked about DT and how important

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<v Speaker 1>has been for your linebackers and stuff, is there any

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<v Speaker 1>DT in this draft? I don't know that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>come in and immediately be better than to Ron Payne

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<v Speaker 1>or she just hit the new Hargraves Is Hargraves is

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<v Speaker 1>also a guy that's a free agent, Like, are there

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<v Speaker 1>any of those gentlemen that are going to be better

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<v Speaker 1>right away? Because that's the problem. I love that the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys draft and developed well. I mean, I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>just we see also dig Zua coming along, like I

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<v Speaker 1>just I love Chauncey gold and like I like that

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<v Speaker 1>these guys come along and stuff. But it takes some

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<v Speaker 1>time to put on weight, takes some time to understand

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<v Speaker 1>the position and how to play it at a high level.

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<v Speaker 1>So then you get you I think you're waiting like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, maybe a year for this guy

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<v Speaker 1>to get this position, and the other parts of your

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<v Speaker 1>team are ready to win now. So I I think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>like Bobby said, like you're gonna have to make the

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<v Speaker 1>decision depending on the position, Like, is this gonna help

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<v Speaker 1>us win right now? Is this like? Especially like for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think DT is such a huge thing because it

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<v Speaker 1>just it changed your run defense, It changed your linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>that need to be free. It just really opened up everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting here like, is there any guy that you

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<v Speaker 1>can draft right now that's gonna come in and immediately

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<v Speaker 1>make an impact on your defense that's gonna do it

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<v Speaker 1>like that? I don't know yet. I think the position

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<v Speaker 1>that you could draft it would make a difference at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six, is corner Okay? Tackles really? Yeah? I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the corners now. I love what you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>about the defensive tackles because I'm one to five three

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<v Speaker 1>the fan. Yesterday I was talking about if you gave

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<v Speaker 1>me a scenario where I could go and get a

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle and pain. If we said you're pushing the

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<v Speaker 1>chips in and you're going to get durn Pain. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>totally about that. I think if you know what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, Digs, the wide receiver at Buffalo. If you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if all of a sudden, I mean, you're starting to

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<v Speaker 1>hear whispers about, well, maybe they might move on from

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<v Speaker 1>him by all means twenty six, take twenty six, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can, you know, give me Digs that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all about that. But those are but you're right

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<v Speaker 1>about You're right about players that you know. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that a lot of these teams looking like

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's already established. This is an established player, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Cowboys feel like, hey, we can draft, we

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<v Speaker 1>can deal. They've done that. Look what they did. They

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<v Speaker 1>redrafted this thing. And Tyler Smith was what the eighth

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<v Speaker 1>pick in the draft on a redraft and we're all

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here talking about him at what twenty seven, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and the league's now going, wait a minute, this was

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<v Speaker 1>the eighth best player on the board. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would keep drafting. No, I just think

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<v Speaker 1>I keep drafting too well. No, And I but why

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<v Speaker 1>not supplement though, Like why not have them draft like that?

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<v Speaker 1>And then also add you can do both It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like you're limited just because you're choosing to draft. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with you, guys, But sitting up with these cats, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's what they do. Not they don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that they have to do that. Yeah, how can

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<v Speaker 1>you not? Though? How can you not when you see

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<v Speaker 1>like and we talked about we just talked about on

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<v Speaker 1>Girls Talk, Boys Talk Listen, man, like these young players,

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<v Speaker 1>you're young stars that you want to resign. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking out loud. They're talking out loud, micah CD, Trey Von.

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<v Speaker 1>They're talking of they are they want to win, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they're talking about bringing people in and adding talent

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff because they see across the league that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to draft well and supplement it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Bobby said, but you mentioned dB, though I listen,

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<v Speaker 1>has Israel mquamu and darm Blend have they made dB

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<v Speaker 1>a little I think Izzy might have made things a

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<v Speaker 1>little weird. I think you might have to go get

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<v Speaker 1>a safety, like not mosting the year already moving him

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<v Speaker 1>over permanent. I mean you might have to get a

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<v Speaker 1>safety for a number of reasons. Donovan Wilson's a free agent.

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<v Speaker 1>Malie Cooker is a potential cap savings. Mcamo can play corner.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she's wrong. No, Rather, at corner, mcuamo

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<v Speaker 1>was better at corner throughout training camp than from Texas

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<v Speaker 1>A and m would do my heart pretty good. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to get him in the first round, though. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you okay spending twenty six I know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just wondering if it's changed to the urgency

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<v Speaker 1>to to to to go get corner early because you

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I think obviously easy came along and I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to see that. But Jordan Lewis is he's

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<v Speaker 1>still on contract. Run. Yeah, he's still on contract, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be a slot guy. Dron Bland is here,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you got Israel mcquamo, who obviously show flashes

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<v Speaker 1>at corner. Has that changed the urgency If you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get a corner in the first round possibly or

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<v Speaker 1>second round, I think you need to do it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>asking you, guys. No, no, I think you're right. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what I would think of it. As

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger picture thing. It might be for Diggs that

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<v Speaker 1>that they if they picked a corner in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think that's more indicative of we need to

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<v Speaker 1>protect ourselves on Trayvon, I think this is more about

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<v Speaker 1>Digs than a Yeah. If I were to look into

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<v Speaker 1>a crystal ball and try and project out what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen over the next thirteen months from now, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're thirteen months from now, Trayvon Diggs has the

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<v Speaker 1>franchise tag on him. I agree, I say that, I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't. I just don't think it's gonna get done

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<v Speaker 1>this office. If you told me which is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the easier, and I asked this again the on

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<v Speaker 1>the question yesterday on the on the break, which is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the easier negotiations between Diggs and Lamb, Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>give me Lamb everything. It's gonna be Lamb this guy

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<v Speaker 1>because because Diggs, Diggs is literally gonna dig in. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks he's one of the best corners in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that I think that, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got he's got a good argument, he really does.

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<v Speaker 1>But but this this crew, let this let this crew.

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<v Speaker 1>Let Byron Jones walk yep and Byron Judge round picked. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Jones was having a good It was having a

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<v Speaker 1>good season for them. You could argue they proved correct

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<v Speaker 1>that one. I mean he's something right, I mean he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's been solid, but he has not been what he was.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what that's the whole idea here. If this

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<v Speaker 1>Digs thing turns contentious, then you know, and hell I

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<v Speaker 1>want him to sign Dicks. I absolutely do. But if

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<v Speaker 1>it turns bad, that you know, and and it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna move on. I think it's not so

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<v Speaker 1>much about the guy playing opposite Digs. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>about the guy that all of a sudden Bland Mukuamu

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<v Speaker 1>and whoever plug in, whoever you want uh Banks from

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<v Speaker 1>Maryland or whoever you want to plug in, could be

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that all of a sudden that steps in

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, no, we're just gonna move on. The

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<v Speaker 1>ease of the Digs or the ease of the Lamb

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<v Speaker 1>negotiation is going to be it's you you can. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's gonna be easy either. No, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is like in terms of I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>that one gets done this offseason, okay, and because I

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<v Speaker 1>think the framework is there easily. Tory Dandy, who represents CD,

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<v Speaker 1>has represented a couple of the other top receivers. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>represented one of the most recent deals that got on debo,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's easy to work off that framework and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got this contract here that debo signed. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>calculating for the inflation of the cap that would mean

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<v Speaker 1>that CD would be do this, and it gives them

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<v Speaker 1>a much easier base to work around with DIGS. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>some people think he's j. C. Jackson, some people think

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<v Speaker 1>he's Jayar Alexander, and it's like, where's the difference and

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<v Speaker 1>jac Jackson, j C. Jackson and jay Ere Alexander are

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<v Speaker 1>five million apart on their average as salary. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's a harder in the middle ground with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to find where you agree. Also, not

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<v Speaker 1>to mention, Micah Parsons is coming up next year in

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<v Speaker 1>that start of the conversation and moving into that too.

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<v Speaker 1>So not only are you having to talk about these

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<v Speaker 1>two guys going into contract years, but then Micah Parsons

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<v Speaker 1>is going to come up in seasons as well. You

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<v Speaker 1>do have that fifth year you do have with CD,

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<v Speaker 1>and with CD both and and what we've seen with

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys and listen, Hey, I respect all those guys

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<v Speaker 1>and gals upstairs at work on these contracts, but they've

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<v Speaker 1>also waited on contracts. Yea, they have waited on some

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<v Speaker 1>contin Stephens said that. Stephen said his biggest regret and

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<v Speaker 1>reseingers was we should have got Dacked done earlier. So

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<v Speaker 1>they know I had people screaming at me. You could

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<v Speaker 1>have had this thing done for twenty three years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You get this thing done for twenty eight you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, okay, I mean you know, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>a guy talking about it here. So going back to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the stem of this conversation, corner, No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not your bad, that's actually really good. Sing. Yeah. Corner

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<v Speaker 1>is something where like you said, you could go and

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<v Speaker 1>get a guy in the first round or second round

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<v Speaker 1>and you could plug and play and he's gonna he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna improve a football team. Is there any other receiver

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<v Speaker 1>or any other hum I just gave away my thought process.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any other position offensive line in the draft

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<v Speaker 1>that you could do that? Yeah? The Cowboys have proven

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<v Speaker 1>this as well. Any offensive lineman that they draft in

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<v Speaker 1>the first round, isn't they think it's much. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot it is. It's it's like when we always talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this, who is the safest player in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we were talking with danis or about Sanders.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Dane about Sanders, the linebacker from Arkansas. Not

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<v Speaker 1>a safe, clean, nothing wrong with him. Man, He's just

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<v Speaker 1>plug and play. You know. That's that's what Cowboys do

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<v Speaker 1>with these offensive lineman they did. They drafted as Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Smith that what did they do? They forced, They forced

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<v Speaker 1>to Taco Charlton pick. They forced a couple of these

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<v Speaker 1>picks and what happened. It didn't work. But they just

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<v Speaker 1>naturally say, well, Tyler Smith's up there. We kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like him, you know, we're okay with him. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, boom, make the pick. Guy starts at

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle, and now he's the eight you know redraft,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the eighth best player on the board. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>team has a knack, an ability, whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 1>call it, a just a will to draft offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round and have him work. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>if they took a first round lineman in this draft,

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would just pencil that in. Is up,

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<v Speaker 1>guy's gonna plug and play. If it's a guard, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I'm having problems with a guard. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about yours. Yeah, I know they're all stressing me out,

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<v Speaker 1>the little stress. I don't think it's a good class.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're talking about that top head, well, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you have Scroonsky? Do you have him as

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<v Speaker 1>a guard? Tackle? Well, tackle tackle, I've must tackle him.

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<v Speaker 1>Dane's got him as a guard. Yeah, And because the's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a shorter arm guy, it's what

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<v Speaker 1>the will get, you know, when the combine rolls. It

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<v Speaker 1>was it was another Northwestern typle by the way later Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, that's my guy. No, no, but that the

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<v Speaker 1>I think the I mean, if you're talking about guards,

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<v Speaker 1>the only one you're talking about in the top fifty

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<v Speaker 1>right now realistically would be Torrens on it. Yeah, drop

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<v Speaker 1>off from Osiris Torrens. Then you get into the Avlas

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<v Speaker 1>from TCU. And I mentioned him last because he's you

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<v Speaker 1>know how they like hometown people, you know how they

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<v Speaker 1>like people close to the house. I mean Tyler Smith

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<v Speaker 1>was technically hometown for it also helps. It also helps, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because they get a closer look at those guys than

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<v Speaker 1>they do some guys who are not from they do that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's money. They pick offensive lineman and the especially in

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of that first round, they go back, Travis Frederick,

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<v Speaker 1>go back. They figure it out. Yeah, they got they

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<v Speaker 1>got a good they got a really good handle on this.

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<v Speaker 1>But that could also just be honestly too, when you

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<v Speaker 1>start looking at this US Coast offense, Solari just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how they like to run the ball, Dude, like

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<v Speaker 1>guard is guard is a need for this team? Like

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's keep it a book. I mean you have, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go as a tackle in the background, I mean Tyler, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. You got Tyler, you have. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if Tyrn's coming back. You don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Peters coming back. McGovern's a free agent. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>depth there at tackle, maybe at guard. Oh what you

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<v Speaker 1>got there? What you got there? And so with me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at I really don't want to think of Farniac.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe yeah, maybe maybe maybe the backup center. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know Farniac's the backup everything. They think

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<v Speaker 1>he can play all five. I mean I like him

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<v Speaker 1>as a rotational yeah guy, as a Yeah, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>in a league that's starved of offensive lineman. A guy

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<v Speaker 1>who can adequately like play off five positions. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>to have on. You think you think they lose McGovern

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<v Speaker 1>free agency tots. I don't know they really like him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they do. They really like him, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think they can lose him because I think they feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>like we just talked about, they might be able to

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<v Speaker 1>draft a guy that can come in here and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>do it better or do it at the same level

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<v Speaker 1>at least to start. And my thing is is, like

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen with Philly, how if you have a dumbant

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line, I mean, think about it. Though the city

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilt there. Yeah, I don't know when you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when you're gonna get tearing still back,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's playing like one of the best tackles in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Another year of Tyler Smith's getting trained in

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<v Speaker 1>working with Duke, all this stuff he's doing, He's come

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<v Speaker 1>back probably putting that big boy weight on. You're good

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<v Speaker 1>at tackle. Then you have Tyler beyandis who's gonna He's

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<v Speaker 1>continuing to develop. He played well this year. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that's pro bowler. Let me fix myself, Zack Martin, but oh, God,

0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:52.399
<v Speaker 1>you go. You Patty, You're Patty. But with this offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a guard, a good left guard. You might

0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:58.959
<v Speaker 1>be cooking with gas, like just being honest for your

0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:00.880
<v Speaker 1>tackles are kind of shut it up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>We kind of need to look at guard. But your

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<v Speaker 1>center is pretty good too. So I'm looking at guard

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<v Speaker 1>my guy, maybe a guy that has some swing ability.

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many spots on this roster, so many

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<v Speaker 1>spots on this roster that you could fill and plug

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<v Speaker 1>and play. You're gonna have to supplement some of it

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about the slot receivers or not

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<v Speaker 1>so slot receivers, because Mike McCarthy likes Ceedee Lamb in

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<v Speaker 1>the slot. He likes to put him in there and

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<v Speaker 1>let him go to work. And of course Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>is calling them plays this year. Which attainable receiver on

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<v Speaker 1>the outside would fit into this offense. But I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw a twist on this, this is uh, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>In general, we've talked a lot about first round receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about some of the day two guys,

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<v Speaker 1>second or third round potentials. Anybody on the outside that

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<v Speaker 1>you could take in the second or third round that

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<v Speaker 1>would really excite you. Uh, specifically for the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>if they're going to play West Coast. Yes, Rashi Rice, absolutely, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Now Rashie. Like, I think Rashi's traits are nice. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that he's a physical receiver. I think he's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who will make like the tough, the contested catches,

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>things like that. There's a little bit of like, I

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<v Speaker 1>hate like saying this word because it always sounds so dirty,

0:24:57.560 --> 0:24:58.959
<v Speaker 1>and I don't I just don't have a better revert

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<v Speaker 1>DC laziness at times with rice, like in the route

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<v Speaker 1>running and just like kind of nonchalant. Yeah, I think

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you're fair all right, so but and look, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to fight that. I wasn't trying to fight fight it, no,

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>fight it, No, I want you to fight. Think you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you were you. I know you really like

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:20.199
<v Speaker 1>the player. I love the want. I want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>it because I I you know, with the sometimes in

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<v Speaker 1>the receivers, I I think I've seen something the right way,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I'm pretty good at receivers, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do see some a little bit of nonchalant. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>better word. Nonchalant, not lazy. Give me something. I just think.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think when you block as willingly as he does,

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah you might, he might take a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>plays off and you I mean, I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about that. Like the nonchalantlant thing that I do

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he's he's so into blocking and doing so

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<v Speaker 1>many things that we naturally we see players doing in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL all the time where they're just like, Okay,

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm into this play and maybe it's not the right thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just like, I don't know if I see nonchalant. Okay,

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I see that. I saw somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who struggled with really creating separation all the time. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's a good route runner, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>there was that that window of opportunity all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right there with you, guys. I think he's a

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>really good player. I think if you were to get

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>him at fifty eight, I'd be doing cartwheels. I'll go

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>he's a phenomenal player. But I just in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the true separation, the speed, that next level burst, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really see it as much as some of those

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>other guys. Kilford I should go together. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a big slot type situation. So I do agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You took that. That's what I was going to say

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<v Speaker 1>when you brought up like who can win on the

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>outside and whatever, But um not, You're You're fine, Bobby.

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>The thing about it, no, No, I'll tell you what though.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, though, this guy, he's used to catching the

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<v Speaker 1>ball in traffic. Yeah, that, and you mentioned the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of separation. He is used to going to get in

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<v Speaker 1>the football, and I think that's what makes him intriguing

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>is because I don't think all the time in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL you get operation which if McCarthy wants to run

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>slant flats here, he can run it. Yeah, he can run.

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>And he's got his eyes and he's strong and he

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>can he'll he'll make the tough Can you remember last

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>year what you're clamoring for all year, Like, get me

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.479
<v Speaker 1>a receiver who has my ball. Mentally, he does have

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>my ball. Mental he is you're, you're you're. Because you're

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 1>talking about toughness as a blocker. I think he's got

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 1>toughness as a receiver because I think he's willing. I

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>think he's willing to go get it. That's you know,

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe it's a little bit of some lack of

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>day school stuff, but I'm not going to question this

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.719
<v Speaker 1>guy's toughness. I will say, though I agree with you, Kyle.

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he runs away from people. That's the

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>thing that I you know, I think that. Did anybody

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<v Speaker 1>do Tyler Scott from Cincinnati? I have not. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen him. I'm gonna watch it, all right, Tyler Smith.

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Scott from Cincinnati is a smooth route runner. He

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>gets in and out of his brakes. No wasted motion

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>with this guy, you could put it. He could put

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<v Speaker 1>a defender in a bad spot right off the jump.

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 1>And so I mean he catches the ball really easily,

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>very natural, the way he goes about his job, great radius,

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.919
<v Speaker 1>he tracks it down the field. Uh you know, inside

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>concentration routes, all those things you talking about. I don't

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 1>see him miss many balls at all. So keep an

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 1>eye on a guy like Tyler Scott. Another guy. I

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>want to mention, did anybody happen to see where's my

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>guy here that I'm looking at the at Perry from

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>wake Forest? Yeah? Wake Forest? Okay, did you see him

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>at all? Asia? Have you done him? All? Right? All right,

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>Well here's another guy. He's six five, he's two oh five, okay,

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's he's got really impressive length for a receiver,

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and he could just the any ball is thrown high low.

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>So you're again you're talking about these routes, we are

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>running slants inside routes and stuff like that. I kind

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>of feel like that he can adjust the ball over

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>his head all levels of the field. He's not shy

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>about anywhere where he's going. There's really another again that

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 1>smoothness to his game. He can set upright, and he

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>also will make contested plays. So I saw a little

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>bit of both at Perry wide receiver Wake Forest. Take

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>a peek at him at the camp. Would he be

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>a second round or a third round guy? Probably third round?

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I think he's more closer to probably a third. Dane

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>always did this thing with us. What I thought was

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, because I always want to I don't

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>ever want to stand on the fence. Sure Dane will

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>throw you. He's a two three, you know, And I'm like,

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>is he a two or three? Yeah? Tell which one?

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Which one is he? You know? And so I think

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>there's some other receivers that are probably a little bit

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>better this guy. This This at Perry guy. He was

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>able to show out because Sam Hartman, who is his quarterback,

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>is one of the best in the country. And so

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>you see him getting like really good passes, you know,

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>from a quality quarterback, which I think makes a difference

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>in the world. Does does that scare you a little bit?

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>The fact that he didn't have a ton of production,

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>because he had just barely nicked a thousand yards thirteen

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>and a half per catch. I just kind of was

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>seeing when I when I was watching him play, because

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:03.479
<v Speaker 1>when wake Force plays, they play this really slow. They

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>act like they're reading the ball. They're gonna they're gonna

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>hand in hand in hand in hand and handed pull

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and then throw the ball kind of an offense. And

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>so to me, I think if he get with the

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>right and I mentioned Hartman because I do feel like

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>the ball when they did throw it was accurate to him.

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just gonna saying, maybe you know Megatron and

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>those guys that I remember back in the day, Calvin

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Johnson went to school and what Georgia Tech. Yes, they

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>were running what read option? Not read option? They were

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>running like Veer stuff, run play stuff. I mean, these

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>some of these receivers don't get in the right right scheme.

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I kind of feel like this guy at his size

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>at six five two o five is gonna be He

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>looked like to me one of those like La Charger receivers.

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>You know those they when you watch the Chargers play.

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>They got all these big, kind of long, tall guys

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>they're playing. Maybe they're not the fastest, but they go

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and get every single ball. What about I know that

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>he's dealt with injuries stuff, but if we're talking about

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Day two or Day two, Day two, Round three, yeah,

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>second or third round, Okay. I think a couple of

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>teams might take a chance on Michael Wilson, Like I

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 1>think his route running, his size, like he can win

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh Stanford as Stanford my bad because obviously the characters

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>there all that stuff to work ethic. I actually looked

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>at it quite a bit. He looked a great at

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the Senior Bowl. But his size, it's kind of what

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>makes things weird because I think he could play on

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the outside but be a big slot as well. But

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>his route running is so good he's gonna beat people

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>at the line of Scrimmage's just a deal of keeping

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>him obviously keeping him healthy. But I do see him

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>as a guy that could go in the third round

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>because people are gonna be willing to take the risk

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>on him, even though he's been healthy. He's been injured,

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>but he just seems so refined as a route runner.

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>He can get open in a lot of different ways,

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>but he also has size to beat you and have

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>size on those smaller corners. I haven't watched him yet.

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>He was actually on my list to I had to

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>knock out over the next couple of days. Has anybody

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>watched Mingo? He was the last Yeah, he's the last

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>guy because I was down to the point where I

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>was watching Wicks from Virginia and Mingo was the last

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver that I had to do in this thing.

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>But I know a lot of people. Everybody's everybody's mocking

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>when you do those. I get those cowboy mocks. Yeah,

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody seems to put him if they're not putting, you know,

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>if they're not putting the Tennessee receiver in there at

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, at number two, which I see every single

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>time Hyatt. Yeah, I mean everybody puts him as the second,

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the second which I have watched Hyatt. And while I

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>haven't watched Mingo, everything I know about Mingo sounds like

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>those are about the two most polar opposite receivers we

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>would be talking about here. Yeah, I mean one guy

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:49.479
<v Speaker 1>is like DeVante Smith's skinny with like three nine speed,

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and the other guy is, you know, running a five

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>one and just trying to make tough contested catches. Yeah,

0:32:55.960 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>but you guys real quick on that one. Zay Flowers

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>from Boston College. The thing, he's five nine and one

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>seventy is what I was working with get out for

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>this team. Then yeah, okay, what a player? Huh Yeah,

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>he's what a player? Phenomenal player, what a player? And

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna look at that one and say the

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are not even not even considers Zay Flowers because

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I again a mock draft from the fans. Somebody had

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>him going to twenty six to the Cowboys, and I

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of just smiled because I'm thinking, sir, you know,

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 1>this guy's a really good player, and you probably put

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>him at the right spot. Yep, you probably put him

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>with the wrong team. I put in my scouting report

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>of Flowers. I said his burst is the best in

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>the class. I mean, do you talk about put a

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>foot in the ground and get around the defender. Yeah,

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>straight off the line of scrimmage, I thought Flowers. I

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>watched him against NC State, Syracuse and Wake Forest. I

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 1>had two minuses the whole time. Yeah, it was the

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>two minuses. He's a really solid player. The biggest knock

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>is this, Yeah, I'm working off five. Have you done him? Yeah? Yeah?

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>What you got on him? Well, what I mean? You

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 1>mentioned his birst? I like his hands. I think he's

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>he's just one of those guys like I'm a dude,

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like he knows he's a dude, and

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you can see it in his play. But I feel

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 1>like his releases are nice as well. But yeah, more

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 1>than anything, what the size thing, dude, I just think

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 1>it depends on what you what you need, what you

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:29.719
<v Speaker 1>do schematically, and so if the Cowboys drafting him, where

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>where where is he going to play it? That's what

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, he would have where is he gonna play it?

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>But see, that's the thing about it. Twenty five years ago,

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>when I started working in scouting, this this player wouldn't

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>have been a guy you would even considered. Now and

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 1>now and now we've we've kind of come to the

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.359
<v Speaker 1>point where, you know what, as a coach, it's your

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>job to figure it out. It's your job to figure

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>out because you're absolutely right. You guys are right about

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>this kid. He's going he's going a one hundred miles

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>an hour and he stops on a dime and comes

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>back and comes back to the ball. He catches everything

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and he runs after catch. You know, I, as as

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>a personnel guy, I can't sit there and say I'm

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 1>telling you this guy could play football in this day

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and age, he could play football, and it's up to

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.839
<v Speaker 1>you guys to figure out where he could play. Yeah.

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to guy all of a sudden like go, oh, well,

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Zay Flowers. He doesn't fit our profile in our scheme.

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I get it. You can't have a team that looks

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>like up and down, up and down, up and down.

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>You can't have that. But there's certain guys in this

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>draft that if you said, hey, I'm gonna draft Say

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Flowers for it, you cannot tell me watching his tape

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>he's not a good football player. He is. You can't

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>tell me that. And some coaches say, no, he's a

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 1>little short for what we do. And then you know

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:44.760
<v Speaker 1>what he's gonna do. The Giants, the Commanders, the Eagles

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 1>like that are gonna draft him and he's and we're

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna go, wow, that's Zay Flowers. And then you know

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna lose a game because Zay Flowers makes about

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.800
<v Speaker 1>seven catches on you. I mean, he's a good player.

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:56.479
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right, though, It's just you're you're mocking

0:35:56.520 --> 0:36:01.399
<v Speaker 1>to the wrong team. It's just it's not words though,

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:04.879
<v Speaker 1>because you won't play light. Don't get the playmaker, my guy.

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Should we start go get the flop being my guy?

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Should we just lobby all the No? No, down the hall.

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 1>They sitting there handing out flowers. No they yeah, we're buttons,

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>big flowers. I'll tell you what that receiver's cut regardless

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>of the size. I'll tell you what they would not

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>love is they wouldn't love the drops that are on

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:24.959
<v Speaker 1>his tape. He's got a couple. His hands are not great.

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I tell you what, though, to me, I kind of

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 1>feel like though that when you say not great, I

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>see him like he's the only weapon that Boston College has.

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 1>You know who he is, He's He's a more slightly

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>built to me, the like Watchman's player, which I liked

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 1>this player coming out, and he's been okay in the NFL.

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 1>He's a more slightly built Anthony Miller, remember him from Memphis, Memphis. Yes,

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.439
<v Speaker 1>he reminds me of him. Okay it with the Chicago Bears. Yeah,

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>he's bounced around. I think he went to like Pittsburgh

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta since then or something, And I liked I

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>liked Anthony Miller, and I think they look similar. Miller

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>was stouter. Miller's like twenty pounds heavier, but they're similar.

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Flowers had eight drops, by the way, That's what I

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.439
<v Speaker 1>wrote down though, Bobby, I wrote down drops. I wrote

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 1>down drops our problem. But then also too, he got

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>targeted a whole whole, whole whole bunch. Yeah. So so yeah,

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I gonna be up because he's getting the ball through

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.280
<v Speaker 1>to him a little bit more than everybody else that exists.

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I just I just know over the past, like forget

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>just the size. The size is one thing, but I

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>just know where the past like there's been hesitancy. I

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:21.879
<v Speaker 1>know when I talk to people and try to figure

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>out what their thought processes. When you start talking about

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>maybe the hands aren't the best, that's usually like a

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>big ding for them, I feel. So they're probably thinking

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 1>hands and their fans, and you're so like, like great

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>that you're fast. But i'd like to just I'd just

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>like to go on record though, when this guy goes

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 1>off and plays well please uh, well he'll play it

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>at me when he's playing for some other team and

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you and you're, hey, broadest you like that Zay Flowers guy,

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be running all over with Trevor Lawrence to him.

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.240
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be great. Guy's a great finisher. You can't

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>you can't deny the guys know and do you want

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 1>to talk about like when we were talking about Rashi

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Rice being a little lack of days, Well he's not.

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.399
<v Speaker 1>Zay Flowers is not eight Flowers like that's running hot.

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Second question on Twitter on the twenty U We've got

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 1>two questions this week. Donald asked, what about fault you

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>should what about tight ends? What type of tight ends

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>should the Cowboys be looking at? Because of course Dalton

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:19.399
<v Speaker 1>Schultz coming off of the franchise tag, he's unrestricted. Who

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 1>do you go get? Do you you rely on some

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of these young guys or do you target some of

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 1>these high end tight ends that we talked about a

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>little bit with Dane yesterday. Brian, can I convince you

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>guys to take win at twenty six? No, you could, absolutely. Yeah,

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>there's there's two guys that I would be okay taking

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>in twenties. Man, A dynamic, dangerous tight end is one

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>of the biggest mismatches you can have in the NFL. Baso,

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 1>look at the two teams in the Super Bowl, look

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 1>at the four teams. At three of the four teams

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 1>in the Conference championship games. What do they all have

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 1>a dynamic tight end? George Kittle, Dallas Goddard and then

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 1>who am I missing? Oh? Of course Travis, I see

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>that one thing. Yeah, so yeah, that guy's pretty good.

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 1>So well, you like you really turned up your nose

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>on that twenty six. I wasn't. I just don't know

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:10.479
<v Speaker 1>you out don't. I'm not out on it. I just don't.

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I am about to get my hopes of some of

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 1>what this team here is this they like undrafted free agents,

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 1>they like fourth round tight ends, they like fifth tight ends.

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.320
<v Speaker 1>So I don't I don't get in my feelings about

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>oh oh oh, there's a if there's a position value

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 1>wise that this team has crushed more than any other

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.359
<v Speaker 1>than tight end. I don't know what it is. You got.

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Jarwin is an undrafted free agent. You drafted Schultz in

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the fourth. McEwan is a it took a little while,

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 1>It took a little while. Uh. McEwan is an undrafted

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:43.240
<v Speaker 1>free agent, hender Shott and Ferguson. I mean, they've generally

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the guys they've evaluate it tight end. The last five

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>of them they've brought in here have been really good. Yeah,

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the best one I've seen just Kincaid from Utah. You

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>like him more than Muscar I've I've watched I've watched

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Myers pretty good though, too. See I like Myyer does

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>does Myer get to you? Though? I mean, I think

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people that think that Meyer

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 1>is the best tight end at a Notre Dame. He's

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 1>my number one tight end, and I've seen him Washington.

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>He's bigger. I mean, he's bigger than Kincaid. I mean,

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I've got I was working on him at six five,

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 1>two sixty five is what I was walking about. Meyer

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 1>Meyer from Notre Dame six to four and a half,

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>okay and two sixty five. Okay, So he's big. Yeah,

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 1>he's big. That's no, that's but those yeas first round people, yeah, okay,

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't I don't know. I've got two

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>first round grades on and uncomplete incomplete reports, and it's

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:35.839
<v Speaker 1>Meyer and it's Kincaid. Those are might say a tight

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 1>end that I think that they might like because of

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>what he does. And Sam Laporta, you boy, you nailed

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 1>that back, dude, Yeah, yeah, you nailed it. What do

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you like about Laporta? I just I'll see if I

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>can follow you up. You get all them. Nah, I

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>just I like, I'll learn something from you here. I'd

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>like some of his scene work, but it's the akability.

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 1>It's the broken breaking tackles, Like dude, what like as

0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>a tight end and you talked about how much how

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>much that's like a threat or that can be a

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 1>difference maker. But I just think he understands to feel

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty well how to position hisself and whatnot. I do

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:09.320
<v Speaker 1>think his hands, his catch radius can get better. M

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 1>as far as like snatching balls or whatever. He just

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 1>to understand where to be on the field. I think

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 1>he gets it. We know IOWA guys already typically typically

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>a fundamentally sound He blocks pretty well also, but I'd

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.800
<v Speaker 1>like the yak ability from a tight end or you

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 1>build the guy. What you think, Bobby, what you think?

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I have not watched him yet. I've watched two tight ends.

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I've watched Meron, I've watched Luke Musgrave, and to me,

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Musgrave is the modern tight end. That's the tight end

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you win with in the NFL. Well, I think look like, look,

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 1>people are going to be frustrated that, like, okay, does

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>he have to play strength? Does he play as well?

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 1>As enline blockers. He like the run block you want,

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Like maybe not, but like I mean, coach it up

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>like you coached up the tight ends throughout the year.

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Because to me, like this is a guy who he

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 1>could play in line, he could line up in the slot.

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 1>He could run some of those slant flats for you.

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>He like, and he's an incredible athlete. He's big, that dude.

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Like the footwork on him looks like a receiver. He

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 1>is really really good round these tight ends. Jalen Duncan.

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm maybe I'm actually right un down schools about

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>real quick. Rusgrave Oregon State. Yeah, sorry, I'm gonna so.

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Michael Meyer Notre Dame, Dalton Kincaide, Utah, Darnell Washington, Georgia,

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Luke Musgrave, that's a top eight playing tight end at Georgia.

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, excuse you talk about Darnell Washington foot seven,

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>two seventy. Yeah, I'm gonna put a pin in it. Yeah,

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>he's fun to watch. He's got some fun tape. Pain

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Durham and then Sam Laporta out of Iowa. I thought

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 1>he would be like y'all's top. I thought he would

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>be one of y'all top guys. I haven't watched him

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 1>yet because Dane mentioned him. My bad. I'm sorry. Don't

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>kill me being I'm all far with my mic h.

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:40.280
<v Speaker 1>But Pain Durham is somebody that I know. Dane mentioned

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>show from Purdue, and I mean he just showed his

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 1>tail at the at the at the Senior Bowl, especially

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 1>just as a blocker, so I thought he would be

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>one of y'all's guys that are really interested. I think

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I had a knock on him. Give me an find it.

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I gotta find. I'll tell you what I like what

0:42:56.920 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Bobby's saying about Musgrave though he did have an injury

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 1>though that they're going to have to look at you.

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 1>But this guy can separate. He can he can be

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 1>tough down the field to cover, but when he's flexed

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 1>her in the slot, I didn't like. I say, you

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 1>don't play him in line, but you're talking about the

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>modern tight end doesn't play in line as much anymore. No, Yeah,

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly use him in the way Doug Peterson

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 1>used Evan Ingram. They figured out Evan Ingram down. Take

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>your cues there. And I mean, like I said, the

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>team's shown inability to use all sorts of different tight ends.

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:31.919
<v Speaker 1>They found a way to use the inlines. They've also

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.800
<v Speaker 1>found a way to use the more athletic ones like Jarwin.

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>And so to me, I just think Musgrave makes a

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:40.919
<v Speaker 1>ton of sense. And that's more the you know, wal Meyer,

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>who's the only other one that I watched. I like him.

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>He's solid, but that's that's Jason Witten to me. And

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:48.319
<v Speaker 1>that's fine. But like if in this area, if you

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 1>really want to create mismatch problems, you need Kelsey. Yeah,

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's more Kelsey than he has Witten. Luke Musgrave

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 1>is I think Musgrave st Dad based off of based

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 1>off of what I've I think they think he's Jarwin.

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I think because he's got some juice, he's got some

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 1>abill I think they like him. Yeah, I think they

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 1>do too. On the other side, with your producee tight

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.919
<v Speaker 1>end paint Durham My my knock was the dude can't run.

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 1>He's not he's not a runner. He's physical, he's big,

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you can block, you can do all that stuff, but

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 1>he can't run. You can use those guys too, you

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:24.279
<v Speaker 1>can well Laporta. I mean, you're right about him, but

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 1>he can do crossers. I think you can. So when

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you talk about like what's the modern tight end, like

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.279
<v Speaker 1>can they do receiver type stuff? The only thing it's

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 1>so weird because he can run the routes and all

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:36.839
<v Speaker 1>that stuff, but contested balls aren't his on his aren't

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>his steel low just yet? But can he run the routes?

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Can he get open? Can you do it? Yeah? Sure?

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 1>What he has the athleticism in space for sure. The

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>one thing about Laporte is you'll see I will run

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:48.439
<v Speaker 1>the ball behind him. You know. Sometimes these were these

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 1>tight ends they kind of avoid, they put him on

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the back side, or they don't have him involved. Laporta,

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:55.800
<v Speaker 1>they'll run the ball behind him. I always got a

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>history of putting tight ends in the league. He's their speed.

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>To me, Yeah, in my pain and that's why my

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 1>eyes were drawn in. But I was like, oh, he

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 1>can do a little bit of this, but he can

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 1>block to Okay, he can do it. I was like, okay,

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 1>well maybe they might look at this human. So there

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 1>we go. We're on for tight ends at twenty six right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 1>she was the one. I've never seen anybody cheer more

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>for tight ends at twenty six nine, she's ready to roll.

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>She's shooting. Don't put that even on me. She just

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 1>can't stop. She said, she said she would have taken hendershot. Second, Bobby,

0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 1>she told me first, she told me I could see

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>this draft. I can see this draft. All of a sudden,

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, she takes that pin. It just throws it, y'all.

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 1>That's not That's not one of your fake pen throws.

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be shook it now. Unless she's shock. Unless

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.879
<v Speaker 1>the dude seriously is like he could be a real

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 1>receiving threat, Like he could really be a guy that

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 1>makes a difference, Because I mean that's how I felt

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 1>about this season with the Cowboys. I was like, yeah,

0:45:57.200 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 1>you ain't got a whole bunch of receivers, but you

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:02.360
<v Speaker 1>have tight ends that have some receiving capabilities. Get them involved.

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:04.760
<v Speaker 1>It kind of can balance it out. In my opinion,

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:07.280
<v Speaker 1>if Musgrave is playing full time snaps in this offense

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>next year, like as the primary tight end, Musgrave has

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:17.360
<v Speaker 1>a thousand yards convinced Bobby, Okay, well you don't Musgrave

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 1>at twenty six, I'm gonna go since you you know Bobby,

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 1>so he's so calm, and I just really like him.

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he's really really good. Bobby, I can't wait

0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 1>for draft. We can't wait. You rip him about it

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.879
<v Speaker 1>at some point, no matter if it's at twenty six

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 1>or if it's in day three, We're gonna pick a

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 1>tight end. And everyone's look is just gonna go wolf

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 1>to me because you hate tight ends. All right, let's

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:44.920
<v Speaker 1>take our second break. When we come back here on

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 1>the Draft Show presented by Miller Light, We're gonna give

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:50.200
<v Speaker 1>some scenarios. All of them include a tight end, all

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 1>of them, all six of them. But now we're doing

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 1>first and second round scenarios. We'll talk about it when

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:59.760
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<v Speaker 1>Go for it. We got first and second round scenarios.

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:33.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna list out six of them, so you might

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<v Speaker 1>want to either write them down or try and memorize

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 1>them if you got them. And then we're gonna pick

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:40.880
<v Speaker 1>which one you feel like fits best. The way I

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:45.040
<v Speaker 1>did this, I did different first round pick positions all

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the way through about guys that I think could potentially

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:52.359
<v Speaker 1>be there. First scenario o Cyrus Torrence, guard from Florida, who,

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of course we talked about yesterday with Dane. The wide

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:58.760
<v Speaker 1>receiver in the second round Jalen Hyatt, Tennessee, BiH receiver.

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Scenario number two involves taking a wide receiver in the

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:04.839
<v Speaker 1>first and I'm gonna give you an option here. You're

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna get really lucky at twenty six. Jordan Addison from

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:12.960
<v Speaker 1>usc falls and Jackson Smith and Jigba from Ohio State falls.

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Jack Campbell, though, is your pick in the second round.

0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 1>That's the Iowa line Iowa linebacker. Yeah, So you get

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 1>lucky in the first round, you don't get so lucky

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:25.960
<v Speaker 1>in the second round. Scenario three is Aisha's favorite, and

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:28.279
<v Speaker 1>actually this is kind of funny because it's your non

0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 1>favorite and then your favorite Michael Meyer tight end out

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 1>of Notre Dame. Yeah, had twenty six. But in the

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:38.839
<v Speaker 1>second round you get Keanu Benton, interior defensive lineman from

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin who in the second round. So you get pretty

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:45.000
<v Speaker 1>lucky in the second round's pretty good. Scenario four, you've

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 1>got Deontay Banks, the cornerback from Maryland who we've talked

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:51.680
<v Speaker 1>about previously. Like him, and then in the you get

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:53.680
<v Speaker 1>him in the first round. Second round you get LSU

0:50:53.719 --> 0:51:00.080
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver Kashaw Boutet. Scenario five. Be Jean Robinson just

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 1>lit up. She can't laugh, No, no, she just lit ups.

0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Is kind of lit. We're adult, That's what I'm saying.

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:07.839
<v Speaker 1>You gotta figure it out. We're gonna have a fun day.

0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 1>If that's these work out. Scenario five. Scenario five, I

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:15.799
<v Speaker 1>did it for a reason. Be Jean Robinson Ward number

0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:18.479
<v Speaker 1>five for Texas, the running back. Then in the second

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>round you get Kiley Ringo, corner from Georgia. Scenario six.

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:27.239
<v Speaker 1>And the final one you get Dane Henley. How do

0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you say is do you know his name? Washington State linebacker.

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I do not either. Actually liked him. I watched him

0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 1>last week. He's pretty good. It's real. He's want in

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:40.320
<v Speaker 1>a modern line that We'll have to talk about his

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:42.319
<v Speaker 1>scouting report in a second. And then in the second

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:45.359
<v Speaker 1>round you get the offensive tackle to Wand Jones from

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:47.959
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State. You get you go a little offensive line

0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 1>versatility in the second round. So there's your scenarios. What

0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:54.800
<v Speaker 1>are we debating here? Don't ask me which one is

0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 1>your favorite. There's zero debate. It's five Wow. Be Jean

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Robinson and the key Ringo question. You give me like

0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 1>all world trades at corner in the second and you

0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:06.880
<v Speaker 1>give me a top three overall player in the first go,

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 1>So don't even think about it. Sounds very much like

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:13.480
<v Speaker 1>getting Lamb and digs that draft at the same time. Yeah, yeah,

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean where it's a surplus on a

0:52:15.160 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 1>skilled position. Yeah, and then you also turn around and

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:20.239
<v Speaker 1>you you shure up your corner spot. Ring I mean,

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:24.799
<v Speaker 1>Ringo is digs with better athleticism, Yeah he is. Yeah,

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:27.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe not the ball skills, but he's got really good

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:31.799
<v Speaker 1>ball skills though, I think. Yeah, but Trayvon's like Trayvon's different. Yeah,

0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>but can you read me the Addison one again? Please? Yes?

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Addison wide receiver from USC or Jackson Smith and

0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Jigbua wide receiver from Ohio State in the first round.

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Second round. It's Jack Campbell the linebacker for Okay, you

0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:48.279
<v Speaker 1>like that one? No, I just was curious. I like

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Jack Campbell, but I don't know, I don't know, And

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that was me even saying, Okay, you got you got

0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 1>lucky in the first round, you didn't get lucky in

0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:57.799
<v Speaker 1>the second round. And I still put Jack Campbell there.

0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I like Jack as well, but I mean he's probably

0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:03.680
<v Speaker 1>a top seventy player. He sounds like an accountant. He's

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:06.400
<v Speaker 1>a really he's a big one. No, I know, just

0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the name. The name sounds like that shot kind of

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:11.960
<v Speaker 1>looks like like Jack Campbell's state farm when you watch him.

0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:15.360
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what you you yet like, Yeah, just

0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:18.840
<v Speaker 1>really fundamentally sound, not super flashy, but is gonna do

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:23.160
<v Speaker 1>linebacker things at high wrong. The scenario three interest you

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:26.080
<v Speaker 1>at all? Say it again? Say it Michael Meyer, the

0:53:26.280 --> 0:53:30.320
<v Speaker 1>tight end from Notre Dame, and then Keanu Benton, interior

0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 1>defensive lineman from Wisconsin. Round second, first and second round. Yeah,

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they gonna take a d getting Benton

0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:40.960
<v Speaker 1>in the second round. A guy like Benton could be

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 1>a game changer. He can't, he can't, he can. I

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:47.360
<v Speaker 1>honestly feel like the first scenario is one of my favorites.

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:49.719
<v Speaker 1>And I only say that because those are the two

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I keep saying. Michael Meyer, it's mayor mayor, Yeah, because

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, what is that Friday the thirteenth, whatever, the

0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:01.440
<v Speaker 1>movie Michael Meyer, No, Michael Myers, mayor mask No, not

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the match, but the Osirius Torrence. He said in the

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:08.440
<v Speaker 1>first round Osirius Torrance, first round, Jalen Hyatt is your

0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:12.319
<v Speaker 1>second round pick. I'm not gonna fight that. That's yours. Yeah,

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna fight I'm not gonna fight that situation.

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I think you get goodness on both sides. Now. I

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:20.480
<v Speaker 1>know that you guys talked about Osiris yesterday. I was

0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:23.120
<v Speaker 1>listening to you guys talk about I'm more critical of

0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:25.600
<v Speaker 1>him than I think than Dane is, just because if

0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:29.120
<v Speaker 1>he continues to lose weight, I think I'll be okay

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:30.560
<v Speaker 1>with this one. And I think he can get in

0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 1>shape here. But too if you put him. You talk

0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:34.840
<v Speaker 1>about Salari and those guys, they like a lot of

0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 1>combo blocks, all that stuff. Man, put them next to Tyler.

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:40.560
<v Speaker 1>You might be just moving people out the way on

0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:43.400
<v Speaker 1>a very strength lip strength and strength going up against

0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:46.360
<v Speaker 1>anybody clip and then Hyatt obviously like being able to

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:48.800
<v Speaker 1>stretch the field and all that stuff. I think I

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 1>will be eye with that. What is your what do

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:52.759
<v Speaker 1>you see when you see Osirius Torrance because we're looking

0:54:52.800 --> 0:54:58.200
<v Speaker 1>at footage of them. Now, what oh out of Wisconsin

0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:02.799
<v Speaker 1>way back in the day. Who was that? No, Eric

0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 1>Gibson was a tackle from Wisconsin that the Lions took.

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:09.959
<v Speaker 1>He was massive. He was three hundred and seventy something

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:12.440
<v Speaker 1>pounds ended up here in Dallas for a little bhiit.

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:14.640
<v Speaker 1>He was so big, but he just couldn't move. He

0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't. Bobby's being a troll. That's six six, three seventy.

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:23.399
<v Speaker 1>That's o Cyrus Torren's basic head in the NFL up. Yeah,

0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Especial especially made helmet. Yeah, I think that to me,

0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:31.919
<v Speaker 1>I know he's not hearing. GiB I'm kidding. I knew

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:34.640
<v Speaker 1>you were dying. Still makes me laugh. It does make

0:55:34.680 --> 0:55:36.879
<v Speaker 1>me laugh because that pick was made. I'm like, I went, oh,

0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:40.359
<v Speaker 1>not in a good way. I'm sitting in a draft

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.759
<v Speaker 1>room and went, oh, like that. The only thing that

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:44.200
<v Speaker 1>was the only thing that I think I had my

0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:46.520
<v Speaker 1>computer just died. My bad job. But that's probably the

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:49.120
<v Speaker 1>only thing I had downe about him is like his feet.

0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 1>But that was something that with even with Tyler Smith

0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:53.880
<v Speaker 1>did I was kind of like because coming out of

0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:57.400
<v Speaker 1>his stance last when he was uh well in college,

0:55:57.480 --> 0:55:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the best all the time. His feet sometimes

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:03.160
<v Speaker 1>for a big reason why, Like his kickstep was a

0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:06.400
<v Speaker 1>big reason why he was messing stuff up. But with Osiris,

0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, he's he's a guard, Like he's he's not

0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:11.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to be in space as much or whatever.

0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:13.759
<v Speaker 1>But I do understand why y'all say his feet kind

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:16.880
<v Speaker 1>of look heavy. It looked so strong seeing strong. That

0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 1>was the difference with Tyler. Though Tyler was not heavy footed.

0:56:20.080 --> 0:56:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Tyler was sloppy, yeah, and Tyler needed stuff cleaned up. Oh,

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Cyrus's looks heavy, yeah, but like the technique is all

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Tyler needed. Tyler's nimble and he's quick and he's a

0:56:29.760 --> 0:56:33.759
<v Speaker 1>good athlete. Right, I don't know, like I if I'm

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:36.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna spend resources on an offensive lineman in the first round.

0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily know that I wanted to be Osirius Torrens,

0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:40.879
<v Speaker 1>Like like I mean, like I think that there's enough

0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:43.200
<v Speaker 1>talent that they're building on this offensive line right now

0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:45.400
<v Speaker 1>that I don't know that Torrens is the guy that

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I'd be willing to pass up, but I think is

0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:49.319
<v Speaker 1>probably a better receiver and probably a better corner at

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 1>that same spot. Okay, yeah, I mean, I'm just hopeful.

0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:56.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna be against towards if he's drafted here.

0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know I'm against I'm not against it. I'm

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:05.600
<v Speaker 1>just not. Please please please, you can't. The strength is there,

0:57:05.840 --> 0:57:08.359
<v Speaker 1>there's no question, and I is just right. You put

0:57:08.560 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 1>him and Smith next to each other, and you got

0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Martin and what they're doing on the other side over

0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:17.240
<v Speaker 1>there with Steel and you know this, this head coach

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:19.800
<v Speaker 1>wants to get back to really running the football. You

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>helped yourself running the football. You clearly helped yourself running

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the football. Well, I like, I like, Well, I don't

0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 1>think is a villa Via. Rather mean I feel like,

0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:35.200
<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about technique, I feel like he's one

0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:37.560
<v Speaker 1>of his hands are some of the best. Think. Yeah,

0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and when you talk about, you know, maybe gett into

0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:42.880
<v Speaker 1>the second I wouldn't. I mean not in the first

0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:45.200
<v Speaker 1>round obviously, but if we're talking about we're not going

0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to take an offensive offensive linement early, if this guy

0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:51.240
<v Speaker 1>is available, I would. I just really seriously feel like

0:57:51.320 --> 0:57:54.120
<v Speaker 1>he would fig very well. If you pass up Torrents,

0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you pass up that opportunity or he doesn't fall. You

0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:58.880
<v Speaker 1>got a body type that's very similar. I think a

0:57:59.000 --> 0:58:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Via is not a Then I'm gonna use the word sloppy. Yeah,

0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:04.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean I think that. I think. Yeah,

0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:07.000
<v Speaker 1>but can a Via play center? Yes he can? He did.

0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:09.320
<v Speaker 1>He played a lot of right and he did at

0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the Senior Bowl, and I felt like he wants something.

0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:14.360
<v Speaker 1>He lose, he lost something, but just showing the ability

0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:16.320
<v Speaker 1>to do that when we talk about like what is

0:58:16.400 --> 0:58:18.960
<v Speaker 1>his offensive line need, Like obviously you talk about Matt

0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Farniac and he can move everywhere, but like there's no

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:26.160
<v Speaker 1>short fire backup center. Yeah, Like so I just I

0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 1>don't think he would move the center with this team.

0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I think a team might Tea eighteen might. But I

0:58:31.160 --> 0:58:38.520
<v Speaker 1>when you mentioned the sloppiness of or whatever, Yeah, it's okay.

0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 1>In set Cyrus has cement shoes. Yes, yes, I don't

0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:46.560
<v Speaker 1>see that from a Via. Can I say someth about

0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Henley real quick? That linebacker? Yes that's due, Yeah, go

0:58:50.880 --> 0:58:52.520
<v Speaker 1>ahead and fired, go for the No no, no, no, no.

0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I just like him. I like him in coverage, dude,

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Like I was just so impressed with him coverage wise,

0:58:57.320 --> 0:58:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I think I think in this and that Henley, Yeah,

0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:02.680
<v Speaker 1>this guy is a downhill player. Yea. He is good

0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 1>in the open field. He's got really he reads well,

0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:07.920
<v Speaker 1>he's got really good technique. He's not going to be

0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:10.040
<v Speaker 1>out of position. He could play it pass carriage. Looking

0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:12.120
<v Speaker 1>at you, You've got notes over there saying that if

0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken to see a former receiver he transferred from.

0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:19.720
<v Speaker 1>He transferred from Nevada is where he went, and he

0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:24.560
<v Speaker 1>went the former safety and receiver, and so you can

0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:27.400
<v Speaker 1>really see that. Yeah, you can play a coverage. Yeah,

0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 1>the movement, the instincts, you can. He can carry guys

0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and it clearly can do. I think that's important in

0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:35.640
<v Speaker 1>this league. Now. I think that we see him times.

0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Recruited to Washington State as a receiver, caught eight balls

0:59:38.720 --> 0:59:41.120
<v Speaker 1>for one hundred and three yards in three touchdowns as

0:59:41.160 --> 0:59:43.600
<v Speaker 1>a freshman in twenty seventeen. He runs routes four guys

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:46.040
<v Speaker 1>sometimes and I just said Nevada, Sorry at it as

0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:48.360
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker in this league now, like, yeah, I want

0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:51.360
<v Speaker 1>a guy that can come downhill, but I also want

0:59:51.400 --> 0:59:53.440
<v Speaker 1>a guy that can cover when it's necessary, because that's

0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 1>seems like where a lot of coordinators are taking advantage

0:59:56.000 --> 0:59:58.640
<v Speaker 1>of defenses now is like, can you're a linebacker covert too?

0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Because we go tear him up? Do we may could

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<v Speaker 1>determination what we would all do? Then on under his

1:00:02.480 --> 1:00:05.880
<v Speaker 1>key he said five, She said scenario one. Did you

1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:09.000
<v Speaker 1>have a favorite? A little bit? Me personally, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the best players there are the one is the Bijan

1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Robinson one myself, Yeah, I like, I think, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>but that a lot depends what these guys do with

1:00:17.280 --> 1:00:19.360
<v Speaker 1>a tag with moving on from guys and all that

1:00:19.480 --> 1:00:22.600
<v Speaker 1>stuff like early this is just if you're a draft scenario,

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you tell me who the best players are,

1:00:24.960 --> 1:00:27.720
<v Speaker 1>the ones you just named, that scenario is the best

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<v Speaker 1>the best players in the best second round player on

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<v Speaker 1>that list is Keiley Ringo. The best first round players

1:00:33.360 --> 1:00:36.160
<v Speaker 1>b Gen Robinson, and they're in the same stack. There's

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<v Speaker 1>to me, there's zero chance if Bijan was there in

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<v Speaker 1>the first and Ringo is there in second, there's zero

1:00:40.600 --> 1:00:42.080
<v Speaker 1>chance there's a better player than either of them at

1:00:42.080 --> 1:00:44.160
<v Speaker 1>those picks. The thing about it, too, is the likely

1:00:44.240 --> 1:00:49.040
<v Speaker 1>scenario I think is number five. Last five is not

1:00:49.120 --> 1:00:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the likeliest. Oh no, I'm sorry. The one with the

1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:56.040
<v Speaker 1>guard with with O Cyrus Yeah, that's why I put

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<v Speaker 1>it first, because it's hi will be interest. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be close. I think high. It's small for them too, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I just like that. I think eleven Bobby's gonna eliminate

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<v Speaker 1>everyone of these slight. It's a bunch of slight receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>But so many of them are small, dude, and like

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<v Speaker 1>just like even with the cornerbacks, like so many of

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<v Speaker 1>them are long. All the receiver, all the receivers have

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<v Speaker 1>warts this year, I think see And I like the

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<v Speaker 1>second scenario with Jordan Addison and Jackson Smith and jig Bu.

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<v Speaker 1>I would probably say Jordan Addison, he's above Jackson right now,

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<v Speaker 1>just because of the injury concerns. When Jack Campbell in

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<v Speaker 1>the second round, that'd be my favorite. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>out of the bunch, but yeah, there's uh, there's our

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<v Speaker 1>second draft show this week. We'll be backbacks gonna tear

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<v Speaker 1>it up. The quarterbacks. The people are gonna I think

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<v Speaker 1>that whatever happens at quarterback, especially since so many I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a lot of teams are in need of

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback at first round, bring them on, pick them

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<v Speaker 1>all before twenty six. Let's little make it happen. Drive

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<v Speaker 1>that drive them players down. Please all right, that's that

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