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Speaker 1: Smith and now your host, Kyle Yeoman's. It is Thursday,

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Speaker 1: February sixteenth, and we are alive from the Star in Frisco,

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Speaker 1: seventy one days away from the NFL Draft in Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: And we are back on the Draft Show presented by

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Speaker 1: Miller Lite here from the SWBC studios. We've got Bobby

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Speaker 1: Belt back in the building. Guy Brian brought us, of

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Speaker 1: course back in the building, and Aisha Morrison back in

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Speaker 1: the building. We're all together again in one spot. How's

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Speaker 1: everybody doing great? Never better, never better? How is your

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Speaker 1: super Bowl? Brian? How is my super Bowl? You're good?

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Speaker 1: You did it? Goes okay, it was okay, you did

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Speaker 1: a good job. It was okay. I thought it is

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Speaker 1: the grand post. We closed on a strong note, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh went out on a high note. Yep, yep, tried

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Speaker 1: to Yeah, so it didn't suck so bad. Like I

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Speaker 1: ain'tle a loud of y'all. Like seeing Philly Lows, I

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Speaker 1: have to do it a super Bowl they didn't have,

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Speaker 1: those Roman numerous Man, I wasn't ntil super Bowl forty.

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Speaker 1: And then you started going like, Okay, why isn't so

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Speaker 1: gonna talk some draft stuff, of course being on the

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Speaker 1: Draft Show, but we're gonna really hit some scenarios for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys in this show. I love that segment number three,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go through scenarios of first and second round

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Speaker 1: potentials and I ran through six different simulations and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna choose which one we feel like fits the best,

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Speaker 1: and you can ask questions if you wanted to switch

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Speaker 1: a prospect out, you could maybe if he was available,

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Speaker 1: and we can kind of talk about it when we

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Speaker 1: Brian Dane and I talked about yesterday, and that was

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Speaker 1: really prioritizing picks and how you can shuffle your board

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Speaker 1: affect that, Brian, because we said yesterday you don't want

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Speaker 1: How does that change whenever you go and get some

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Speaker 1: just it changed your run defense, It changed your linebackers

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Speaker 1: It's money. They pick offensive lineman and the especially in

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Speaker 1: we've seen with Philly, how if you have a dumbant

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Speaker 1: offensive line, I mean, think about it. Though the city

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427
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Speaker 1: I don't know when you're gonna get tearing still back,

428
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 1: but he's playing like one of the best tackles in

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Speaker 1: the game. Another year of Tyler Smith's getting trained in

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Speaker 1: working with Duke, all this stuff he's doing, He's come

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Speaker 1: back probably putting that big boy weight on. You're good

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Speaker 1: at tackle. Then you have Tyler beyandis who's gonna He's

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Speaker 1: continuing to develop. He played well this year. You know

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Speaker 1: that's pro bowler. Let me fix myself, Zack Martin, but oh, God,

435
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Speaker 1: you go. You Patty, You're Patty. But with this offensive line,

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Speaker 1: you get a guard, a good left guard. You might

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Speaker 1: be cooking with gas, like just being honest for your

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Speaker 1: tackles are kind of shut it up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We kind of need to look at guard. But your

440
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Speaker 1: center is pretty good too. So I'm looking at guard

441
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Speaker 1: my guy, maybe a guy that has some swing ability.

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Speaker 1: There are so many spots on this roster, so many

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Speaker 1: spots on this roster that you could fill and plug

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Speaker 1: and play. You're gonna have to supplement some of it

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Speaker 1: with free agency. We're gonna talk about some of the

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the slot receivers or not

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Speaker 1: so slot receivers, because Mike McCarthy likes Ceedee Lamb in

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Speaker 1: the slot. He likes to put him in there and

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Speaker 1: let him go to work. And of course Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: is calling them plays this year. Which attainable receiver on

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Speaker 1: the outside would fit into this offense. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: throw a twist on this, this is uh, he said.

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Speaker 1: In general, we've talked a lot about first round receivers.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about some of the day two guys,

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Speaker 1: second or third round potentials. Anybody on the outside that

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Speaker 1: you could take in the second or third round that

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Speaker 1: would really excite you. Uh, specifically for the idea that

505
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Speaker 1: if they're going to play West Coast. Yes, Rashi Rice, absolutely, yeah,

506
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Speaker 1: Now Rashie. Like, I think Rashi's traits are nice. I

507
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Speaker 1: think that he's a physical receiver. I think he's a

508
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Speaker 1: guy who will make like the tough, the contested catches,

509
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Speaker 1: things like that. There's a little bit of like, I

510
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Speaker 1: hate like saying this word because it always sounds so dirty,

511
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Speaker 1: and I don't I just don't have a better revert

512
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Speaker 1: DC laziness at times with rice, like in the route

513
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Speaker 1: running and just like kind of nonchalant. Yeah, I think

514
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Speaker 1: you're fair all right, so but and look, you're going

515
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Speaker 1: to fight that. I wasn't trying to fight fight it, no,

516
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Speaker 1: fight it, No, I want you to fight. Think you.

517
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Speaker 1: I think you were you. I know you really like

518
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Speaker 1: the player. I love the want. I want to hear

519
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Speaker 1: it because I I you know, with the sometimes in

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Speaker 1: the receivers, I I think I've seen something the right way,

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Speaker 1: and I think I'm pretty good at receivers, but I

522
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Speaker 1: do see some a little bit of nonchalant. That's the

523
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Speaker 1: better word. Nonchalant, not lazy. Give me something. I just think.

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Speaker 1: I just think when you block as willingly as he does,

525
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Speaker 1: like yeah you might, he might take a couple of

526
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Speaker 1: plays off and you I mean, I don't. I don't

527
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Speaker 1: know about that. Like the nonchalantlant thing that I do

528
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Speaker 1: feel like he's he's so into blocking and doing so

529
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Speaker 1: many things that we naturally we see players doing in

530
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Speaker 1: the NFL all the time where they're just like, Okay,

531
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Speaker 1: I'm into this play and maybe it's not the right thing,

532
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Speaker 1: but I'm just like, I don't know if I see nonchalant. Okay,

533
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I see that. I saw somebody

534
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Speaker 1: who struggled with really creating separation all the time. I

535
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: think he's a good route runner, but I don't think

536
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Speaker 1: there was that that window of opportunity all the time.

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Speaker 1: I'm right there with you, guys. I think he's a

538
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Speaker 1: really good player. I think if you were to get

539
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Speaker 1: him at fifty eight, I'd be doing cartwheels. I'll go

540
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: he's a phenomenal player. But I just in terms of

541
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Speaker 1: the true separation, the speed, that next level burst, I

542
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Speaker 1: didn't really see it as much as some of those

543
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Speaker 1: other guys. Kilford I should go together. I mean, he's

544
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Speaker 1: a big slot type situation. So I do agree with you.

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Speaker 1: You took that. That's what I was going to say

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Speaker 1: when you brought up like who can win on the

547
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Speaker 1: outside and whatever, But um not, You're You're fine, Bobby.

548
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Speaker 1: The thing about it, no, No, I'll tell you what though.

549
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Speaker 1: To me, though, this guy, he's used to catching the

550
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Speaker 1: ball in traffic. Yeah, that, and you mentioned the lack

551
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: of separation. He is used to going to get in

552
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: the football, and I think that's what makes him intriguing

553
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: is because I don't think all the time in the

554
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Speaker 1: NFL you get operation which if McCarthy wants to run

555
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: slant flats here, he can run it. Yeah, he can run.

556
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Speaker 1: And he's got his eyes and he's strong and he

557
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: can he'll he'll make the tough Can you remember last

558
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: year what you're clamoring for all year, Like, get me

559
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Speaker 1: a receiver who has my ball. Mentally, he does have

560
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Speaker 1: my ball. Mental he is you're, you're you're. Because you're

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Speaker 1: talking about toughness as a blocker. I think he's got

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Speaker 1: toughness as a receiver because I think he's willing. I

563
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: think he's willing to go get it. That's you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's a little bit of some lack of

565
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Speaker 1: day school stuff, but I'm not going to question this

566
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 1: guy's toughness. I will say, though I agree with you, Kyle.

567
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he runs away from people. That's the

568
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: thing that I you know, I think that. Did anybody

569
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: do Tyler Scott from Cincinnati? I have not. I haven't

570
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: seen him. I'm gonna watch it, all right, Tyler Smith.

571
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: Tyler Scott from Cincinnati is a smooth route runner. He

572
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: gets in and out of his brakes. No wasted motion

573
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: with this guy, you could put it. He could put

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Speaker 1: a defender in a bad spot right off the jump.

575
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: And so I mean he catches the ball really easily,

576
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: very natural, the way he goes about his job, great radius,

577
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: he tracks it down the field. Uh you know, inside

578
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: concentration routes, all those things you talking about. I don't

579
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: see him miss many balls at all. So keep an

580
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: eye on a guy like Tyler Scott. Another guy. I

581
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Speaker 1: want to mention, did anybody happen to see where's my

582
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: guy here that I'm looking at the at Perry from

583
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Speaker 1: wake Forest? Yeah? Wake Forest? Okay, did you see him

584
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: at all? Asia? Have you done him? All? Right? All right,

585
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: Well here's another guy. He's six five, he's two oh five, okay,

586
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: and he's he's got really impressive length for a receiver,

587
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: and he could just the any ball is thrown high low.

588
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: So you're again you're talking about these routes, we are

589
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: running slants inside routes and stuff like that. I kind

590
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: of feel like that he can adjust the ball over

591
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: his head all levels of the field. He's not shy

592
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: about anywhere where he's going. There's really another again that

593
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: smoothness to his game. He can set upright, and he

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00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: also will make contested plays. So I saw a little

595
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: bit of both at Perry wide receiver Wake Forest. Take

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Speaker 1: a peek at him at the camp. Would he be

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00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: a second round or a third round guy? Probably third round?

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00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: I think he's more closer to probably a third. Dane

599
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: always did this thing with us. What I thought was

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Speaker 1: kind of like, because I always want to I don't

601
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: ever want to stand on the fence. Sure Dane will

602
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: throw you. He's a two three, you know, And I'm like,

603
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: is he a two or three? Yeah? Tell which one?

604
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: Which one is he? You know? And so I think

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00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: there's some other receivers that are probably a little bit

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00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: better this guy. This This at Perry guy. He was

607
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: able to show out because Sam Hartman, who is his quarterback,

608
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: is one of the best in the country. And so

609
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: you see him getting like really good passes, you know,

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00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: from a quality quarterback, which I think makes a difference

611
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: in the world. Does does that scare you a little bit?

612
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: The fact that he didn't have a ton of production,

613
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: because he had just barely nicked a thousand yards thirteen

614
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: and a half per catch. I just kind of was

615
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: seeing when I when I was watching him play, because

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Speaker 1: when wake Force plays, they play this really slow. They

617
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: act like they're reading the ball. They're gonna they're gonna

618
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: hand in hand in hand in hand and handed pull

619
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Speaker 1: and then throw the ball kind of an offense. And

620
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Speaker 1: so to me, I think if he get with the

621
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Speaker 1: right and I mentioned Hartman because I do feel like

622
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Speaker 1: the ball when they did throw it was accurate to him.

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00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna saying, maybe you know Megatron and

624
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: those guys that I remember back in the day, Calvin

625
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: Johnson went to school and what Georgia Tech. Yes, they

626
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: were running what read option? Not read option? They were

627
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: running like Veer stuff, run play stuff. I mean, these

628
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: some of these receivers don't get in the right right scheme.

629
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like this guy at his size

630
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: at six five two o five is gonna be He

631
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: looked like to me one of those like La Charger receivers.

632
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: You know those they when you watch the Chargers play.

633
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: They got all these big, kind of long, tall guys

634
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: they're playing. Maybe they're not the fastest, but they go

635
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: and get every single ball. What about I know that

636
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: he's dealt with injuries stuff, but if we're talking about

637
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: Day two or Day two, Day two, Round three, yeah,

638
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: second or third round, Okay. I think a couple of

639
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: teams might take a chance on Michael Wilson, Like I

640
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: think his route running, his size, like he can win

641
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: Oh Stanford as Stanford my bad because obviously the characters

642
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: there all that stuff to work ethic. I actually looked

643
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: at it quite a bit. He looked a great at

644
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. But his size, it's kind of what

645
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: makes things weird because I think he could play on

646
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: the outside but be a big slot as well. But

647
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: his route running is so good he's gonna beat people

648
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: at the line of Scrimmage's just a deal of keeping

649
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: him obviously keeping him healthy. But I do see him

650
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: as a guy that could go in the third round

651
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: because people are gonna be willing to take the risk

652
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: on him, even though he's been healthy. He's been injured,

653
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: but he just seems so refined as a route runner.

654
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: He can get open in a lot of different ways,

655
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: but he also has size to beat you and have

656
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: size on those smaller corners. I haven't watched him yet.

657
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: He was actually on my list to I had to

658
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: knock out over the next couple of days. Has anybody

659
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: watched Mingo? He was the last Yeah, he's the last

660
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: guy because I was down to the point where I

661
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: was watching Wicks from Virginia and Mingo was the last

662
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver that I had to do in this thing.

663
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: But I know a lot of people. Everybody's everybody's mocking

664
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: when you do those. I get those cowboy mocks. Yeah,

665
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: everybody seems to put him if they're not putting, you know,

666
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: if they're not putting the Tennessee receiver in there at

667
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, at number two, which I see every single

668
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: time Hyatt. Yeah, I mean everybody puts him as the second,

669
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: the second which I have watched Hyatt. And while I

670
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: haven't watched Mingo, everything I know about Mingo sounds like

671
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: those are about the two most polar opposite receivers we

672
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: would be talking about here. Yeah, I mean one guy

673
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 1: is like DeVante Smith's skinny with like three nine speed,

674
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: and the other guy is, you know, running a five

675
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: one and just trying to make tough contested catches. Yeah,

676
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: but you guys real quick on that one. Zay Flowers

677
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: from Boston College. The thing, he's five nine and one

678
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: seventy is what I was working with get out for

679
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: this team. Then yeah, okay, what a player? Huh Yeah,

680
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: he's what a player? Phenomenal player, what a player? And

681
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: are you gonna look at that one and say the

682
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: Cowboys are not even not even considers Zay Flowers because

683
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: I again a mock draft from the fans. Somebody had

684
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: him going to twenty six to the Cowboys, and I

685
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: kind of just smiled because I'm thinking, sir, you know,

686
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: this guy's a really good player, and you probably put

687
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: him at the right spot. Yep, you probably put him

688
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: with the wrong team. I put in my scouting report

689
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: of Flowers. I said his burst is the best in

690
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: the class. I mean, do you talk about put a

691
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: foot in the ground and get around the defender. Yeah,

692
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: straight off the line of scrimmage, I thought Flowers. I

693
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: watched him against NC State, Syracuse and Wake Forest. I

694
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: had two minuses the whole time. Yeah, it was the

695
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: two minuses. He's a really solid player. The biggest knock

696
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: is this, Yeah, I'm working off five. Have you done him? Yeah? Yeah?

697
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: What you got on him? Well, what I mean? You

698
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: mentioned his birst? I like his hands. I think he's

699
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: he's just one of those guys like I'm a dude,

700
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: Like I feel like he knows he's a dude, and

701
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: you can see it in his play. But I feel

702
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: like his releases are nice as well. But yeah, more

703
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: than anything, what the size thing, dude, I just think

704
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: it depends on what you what you need, what you

705
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: do schematically, and so if the Cowboys drafting him, where

706
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: where where is he going to play it? That's what

707
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he would have where is he gonna play it?

708
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: But see, that's the thing about it. Twenty five years ago,

709
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: when I started working in scouting, this this player wouldn't

710
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: have been a guy you would even considered. Now and

711
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: now and now we've we've kind of come to the

712
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: point where, you know what, as a coach, it's your

713
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: job to figure it out. It's your job to figure

714
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: out because you're absolutely right. You guys are right about

715
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: this kid. He's going he's going a one hundred miles

716
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: an hour and he stops on a dime and comes

717
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: back and comes back to the ball. He catches everything

718
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: and he runs after catch. You know, I, as as

719
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: a personnel guy, I can't sit there and say I'm

720
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: telling you this guy could play football in this day

721
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: and age, he could play football, and it's up to

722
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: you guys to figure out where he could play. Yeah.

723
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to guy all of a sudden like go, oh, well,

724
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers. He doesn't fit our profile in our scheme.

725
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: I get it. You can't have a team that looks

726
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: like up and down, up and down, up and down.

727
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: You can't have that. But there's certain guys in this

728
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: draft that if you said, hey, I'm gonna draft Say

729
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: Flowers for it, you cannot tell me watching his tape

730
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: he's not a good football player. He is. You can't

731
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: tell me that. And some coaches say, no, he's a

732
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: little short for what we do. And then you know

733
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: what he's gonna do. The Giants, the Commanders, the Eagles

734
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: like that are gonna draft him and he's and we're

735
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: gonna go, wow, that's Zay Flowers. And then you know

736
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose a game because Zay Flowers makes about

737
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: seven catches on you. I mean, he's a good player.

738
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 1: I think you're right, though, It's just you're you're mocking

739
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: to the wrong team. It's just it's not words though,

740
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: because you won't play light. Don't get the playmaker, my guy.

741
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: Should we start go get the flop being my guy?

742
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: Should we just lobby all the No? No, down the hall.

743
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: They sitting there handing out flowers. No they yeah, we're buttons,

744
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: big flowers. I'll tell you what that receiver's cut regardless

745
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: of the size. I'll tell you what they would not

746
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: love is they wouldn't love the drops that are on

747
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,959
Speaker 1: his tape. He's got a couple. His hands are not great.

748
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: I tell you what, though, to me, I kind of

749
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: feel like though that when you say not great, I

750
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: see him like he's the only weapon that Boston College has.

751
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: You know who he is, He's He's a more slightly

752
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: built to me, the like Watchman's player, which I liked

753
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: this player coming out, and he's been okay in the NFL.

754
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: He's a more slightly built Anthony Miller, remember him from Memphis, Memphis. Yes,

755
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: he reminds me of him. Okay it with the Chicago Bears. Yeah,

756
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: he's bounced around. I think he went to like Pittsburgh

757
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: in Atlanta since then or something, And I liked I

758
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: liked Anthony Miller, and I think they look similar. Miller

759
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: was stouter. Miller's like twenty pounds heavier, but they're similar.

760
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: Flowers had eight drops, by the way, That's what I

761
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: wrote down though, Bobby, I wrote down drops. I wrote

762
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: down drops our problem. But then also too, he got

763
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: targeted a whole whole, whole whole bunch. Yeah. So so yeah,

764
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: I gonna be up because he's getting the ball through

765
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: to him a little bit more than everybody else that exists.

766
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: I just I just know over the past, like forget

767
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: just the size. The size is one thing, but I

768
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: just know where the past like there's been hesitancy. I

769
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: know when I talk to people and try to figure

770
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: out what their thought processes. When you start talking about

771
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: maybe the hands aren't the best, that's usually like a

772
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: big ding for them, I feel. So they're probably thinking

773
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: hands and their fans, and you're so like, like great

774
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: that you're fast. But i'd like to just I'd just

775
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: like to go on record though, when this guy goes

776
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: off and plays well please uh, well he'll play it

777
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: at me when he's playing for some other team and

778
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: you and you're, hey, broadest you like that Zay Flowers guy,

779
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna be running all over with Trevor Lawrence to him.

780
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: He's gonna be great. Guy's a great finisher. You can't

781
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: you can't deny the guys know and do you want

782
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: to talk about like when we were talking about Rashi

783
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: Rice being a little lack of days, Well he's not.

784
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers is not eight Flowers like that's running hot.

785
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: Second question on Twitter on the twenty U We've got

786
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: two questions this week. Donald asked, what about fault you

787
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: should what about tight ends? What type of tight ends

788
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: should the Cowboys be looking at? Because of course Dalton

789
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: Schultz coming off of the franchise tag, he's unrestricted. Who

790
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: do you go get? Do you you rely on some

791
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: of these young guys or do you target some of

792
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: these high end tight ends that we talked about a

793
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: little bit with Dane yesterday. Brian, can I convince you

794
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: guys to take win at twenty six? No, you could, absolutely. Yeah,

795
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: there's there's two guys that I would be okay taking

796
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: in twenties. Man, A dynamic, dangerous tight end is one

797
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: of the biggest mismatches you can have in the NFL. Baso,

798
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: look at the two teams in the Super Bowl, look

799
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: at the four teams. At three of the four teams

800
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: in the Conference championship games. What do they all have

801
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: a dynamic tight end? George Kittle, Dallas Goddard and then

802
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: who am I missing? Oh? Of course Travis, I see

803
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: that one thing. Yeah, so yeah, that guy's pretty good.

804
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: So well, you like you really turned up your nose

805
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: on that twenty six. I wasn't. I just don't know

806
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: you out don't. I'm not out on it. I just don't.

807
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: I am about to get my hopes of some of

808
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: what this team here is this they like undrafted free agents,

809
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: they like fourth round tight ends, they like fifth tight ends.

810
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't get in my feelings about

811
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: oh oh oh, there's a if there's a position value

812
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: wise that this team has crushed more than any other

813
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: than tight end. I don't know what it is. You got.

814
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: Jarwin is an undrafted free agent. You drafted Schultz in

815
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: the fourth. McEwan is a it took a little while,

816
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: It took a little while. Uh. McEwan is an undrafted

817
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: free agent, hender Shott and Ferguson. I mean, they've generally

818
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: the guys they've evaluate it tight end. The last five

819
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: of them they've brought in here have been really good. Yeah,

820
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: the best one I've seen just Kincaid from Utah. You

821
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: like him more than Muscar I've I've watched I've watched

822
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: Myers pretty good though, too. See I like Myyer does

823
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: does Myer get to you? Though? I mean, I think

824
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that think that Meyer

825
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: is the best tight end at a Notre Dame. He's

826
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: my number one tight end, and I've seen him Washington.

827
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: He's bigger. I mean, he's bigger than Kincaid. I mean,

828
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: I've got I was working on him at six five,

829
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: two sixty five is what I was walking about. Meyer

830
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: Meyer from Notre Dame six to four and a half,

831
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: okay and two sixty five. Okay, So he's big. Yeah,

832
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: he's big. That's no, that's but those yeas first round people, yeah, okay,

833
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: I mean I don't I don't know. I've got two

834
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: first round grades on and uncomplete incomplete reports, and it's

835
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: Meyer and it's Kincaid. Those are might say a tight

836
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: end that I think that they might like because of

837
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: what he does. And Sam Laporta, you boy, you nailed

838
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: that back, dude, Yeah, yeah, you nailed it. What do

839
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: you like about Laporta? I just I'll see if I

840
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: can follow you up. You get all them. Nah, I

841
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: just I like, I'll learn something from you here. I'd

842
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: like some of his scene work, but it's the akability.

843
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: It's the broken breaking tackles, Like dude, what like as

844
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: a tight end and you talked about how much how

845
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: much that's like a threat or that can be a

846
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: difference maker. But I just think he understands to feel

847
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: pretty well how to position hisself and whatnot. I do

848
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: think his hands, his catch radius can get better. M

849
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: as far as like snatching balls or whatever. He just

850
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: to understand where to be on the field. I think

851
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: he gets it. We know IOWA guys already typically typically

852
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: a fundamentally sound He blocks pretty well also, but I'd

853
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: like the yak ability from a tight end or you

854
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: build the guy. What you think, Bobby, what you think?

855
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: I have not watched him yet. I've watched two tight ends.

856
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: I've watched Meron, I've watched Luke Musgrave, and to me,

857
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: Musgrave is the modern tight end. That's the tight end

858
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: you win with in the NFL. Well, I think look like, look,

859
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: people are going to be frustrated that, like, okay, does

860
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: he have to play strength? Does he play as well?

861
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: As enline blockers. He like the run block you want,

862
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: Like maybe not, but like I mean, coach it up

863
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: like you coached up the tight ends throughout the year.

864
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: Because to me, like this is a guy who he

865
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: could play in line, he could line up in the slot.

866
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: He could run some of those slant flats for you.

867
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: He like, and he's an incredible athlete. He's big, that dude.

868
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: Like the footwork on him looks like a receiver. He

869
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: is really really good round these tight ends. Jalen Duncan.

870
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm maybe I'm actually right un down schools about

871
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: real quick. Rusgrave Oregon State. Yeah, sorry, I'm gonna so.

872
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: Michael Meyer Notre Dame, Dalton Kincaide, Utah, Darnell Washington, Georgia,

873
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: Luke Musgrave, that's a top eight playing tight end at Georgia.

874
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, excuse you talk about Darnell Washington foot seven,

875
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: two seventy. Yeah, I'm gonna put a pin in it. Yeah,

876
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: he's fun to watch. He's got some fun tape. Pain

877
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: Durham and then Sam Laporta out of Iowa. I thought

878
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: he would be like y'all's top. I thought he would

879
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: be one of y'all top guys. I haven't watched him

880
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: yet because Dane mentioned him. My bad. I'm sorry. Don't

881
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: kill me being I'm all far with my mic h.

882
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: But Pain Durham is somebody that I know. Dane mentioned

883
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: show from Purdue, and I mean he just showed his

884
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: tail at the at the at the Senior Bowl, especially

885
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: just as a blocker, so I thought he would be

886
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: one of y'all's guys that are really interested. I think

887
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: I had a knock on him. Give me an find it.

888
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: I gotta find. I'll tell you what I like what

889
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: Bobby's saying about Musgrave though he did have an injury

890
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: though that they're going to have to look at you.

891
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: But this guy can separate. He can he can be

892
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: tough down the field to cover, but when he's flexed

893
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: her in the slot, I didn't like. I say, you

894
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: don't play him in line, but you're talking about the

895
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: modern tight end doesn't play in line as much anymore. No, Yeah,

896
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly use him in the way Doug Peterson

897
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: used Evan Ingram. They figured out Evan Ingram down. Take

898
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: your cues there. And I mean, like I said, the

899
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: team's shown inability to use all sorts of different tight ends.

900
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 1: They found a way to use the inlines. They've also

901
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: found a way to use the more athletic ones like Jarwin.

902
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: And so to me, I just think Musgrave makes a

903
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: ton of sense. And that's more the you know, wal Meyer,

904
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: who's the only other one that I watched. I like him.

905
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: He's solid, but that's that's Jason Witten to me. And

906
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: that's fine. But like if in this area, if you

907
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: really want to create mismatch problems, you need Kelsey. Yeah,

908
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: and he's more Kelsey than he has Witten. Luke Musgrave

909
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: is I think Musgrave st Dad based off of based

910
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: off of what I've I think they think he's Jarwin.

911
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: I think because he's got some juice, he's got some

912
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: abill I think they like him. Yeah, I think they

913
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: do too. On the other side, with your producee tight

914
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: end paint Durham My my knock was the dude can't run.

915
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: He's not he's not a runner. He's physical, he's big,

916
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: you can block, you can do all that stuff, but

917
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: he can't run. You can use those guys too, you

918
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: can well Laporta. I mean, you're right about him, but

919
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: he can do crossers. I think you can. So when

920
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: you talk about like what's the modern tight end, like

921
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: can they do receiver type stuff? The only thing it's

922
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: so weird because he can run the routes and all

923
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: that stuff, but contested balls aren't his on his aren't

924
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: his steel low just yet? But can he run the routes?

925
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: Can he get open? Can you do it? Yeah? Sure?

926
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: What he has the athleticism in space for sure. The

927
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: one thing about Laporte is you'll see I will run

928
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: the ball behind him. You know. Sometimes these were these

929
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: tight ends they kind of avoid, they put him on

930
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: the back side, or they don't have him involved. Laporta,

931
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: they'll run the ball behind him. I always got a

932
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: history of putting tight ends in the league. He's their speed.

933
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: To me, Yeah, in my pain and that's why my

934
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: eyes were drawn in. But I was like, oh, he

935
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: can do a little bit of this, but he can

936
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: block to Okay, he can do it. I was like, okay,

937
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: well maybe they might look at this human. So there

938
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: we go. We're on for tight ends at twenty six right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

939
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: she was the one. I've never seen anybody cheer more

940
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: for tight ends at twenty six nine, she's ready to roll.

941
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: She's shooting. Don't put that even on me. She just

942
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: can't stop. She said, she said she would have taken hendershot. Second, Bobby,

943
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: she told me first, she told me I could see

944
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: this draft. I can see this draft. All of a sudden,

945
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: twenty six, she takes that pin. It just throws it, y'all.

946
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: That's not That's not one of your fake pen throws.

947
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be shook it now. Unless she's shock. Unless

948
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: the dude seriously is like he could be a real

949
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: receiving threat, Like he could really be a guy that

950
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: makes a difference, Because I mean that's how I felt

951
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: about this season with the Cowboys. I was like, yeah,

952
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: you ain't got a whole bunch of receivers, but you

953
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: have tight ends that have some receiving capabilities. Get them involved.

954
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 1: It kind of can balance it out. In my opinion,

955
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: if Musgrave is playing full time snaps in this offense

956
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: next year, like as the primary tight end, Musgrave has

957
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: a thousand yards convinced Bobby, Okay, well you don't Musgrave

958
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: at twenty six, I'm gonna go since you you know Bobby,

959
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: so he's so calm, and I just really like him.

960
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: I think he's really really good. Bobby, I can't wait

961
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: for draft. We can't wait. You rip him about it

962
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: at some point, no matter if it's at twenty six

963
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: or if it's in day three, We're gonna pick a

964
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: tight end. And everyone's look is just gonna go wolf

965
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: to me because you hate tight ends. All right, let's

966
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,920
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00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,239
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968
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: some scenarios. All of them include a tight end, all

969
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Speaker 1: of them, all six of them. But now we're doing

970
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,520
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Speaker 1: Go for it. We got first and second round scenarios.

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00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna list out six of them, so you might

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00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 1: want to either write them down or try and memorize

1017
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: them if you got them. And then we're gonna pick

1018
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: which one you feel like fits best. The way I

1019
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: did this, I did different first round pick positions all

1020
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: the way through about guys that I think could potentially

1021
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: be there. First scenario o Cyrus Torrence, guard from Florida, who,

1022
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: of course we talked about yesterday with Dane. The wide

1023
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 1: receiver in the second round Jalen Hyatt, Tennessee, BiH receiver.

1024
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: Scenario number two involves taking a wide receiver in the

1025
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: first and I'm gonna give you an option here. You're

1026
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: gonna get really lucky at twenty six. Jordan Addison from

1027
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: usc falls and Jackson Smith and Jigba from Ohio State falls.

1028
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: Jack Campbell, though, is your pick in the second round.

1029
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: That's the Iowa line Iowa linebacker. Yeah, So you get

1030
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: lucky in the first round, you don't get so lucky

1031
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: in the second round. Scenario three is Aisha's favorite, and

1032
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: actually this is kind of funny because it's your non

1033
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: favorite and then your favorite Michael Meyer tight end out

1034
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame. Yeah, had twenty six. But in the

1035
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: second round you get Keanu Benton, interior defensive lineman from

1036
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: Wisconsin who in the second round. So you get pretty

1037
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: lucky in the second round's pretty good. Scenario four, you've

1038
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: got Deontay Banks, the cornerback from Maryland who we've talked

1039
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: about previously. Like him, and then in the you get

1040
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: him in the first round. Second round you get LSU

1041
00:50:53,719 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver Kashaw Boutet. Scenario five. Be Jean Robinson just

1042
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: lit up. She can't laugh, No, no, she just lit ups.

1043
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: Is kind of lit. We're adult, That's what I'm saying.

1044
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: You gotta figure it out. We're gonna have a fun day.

1045
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: If that's these work out. Scenario five. Scenario five, I

1046
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: did it for a reason. Be Jean Robinson Ward number

1047
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,479
Speaker 1: five for Texas, the running back. Then in the second

1048
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: round you get Kiley Ringo, corner from Georgia. Scenario six.

1049
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: And the final one you get Dane Henley. How do

1050
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: you say is do you know his name? Washington State linebacker.

1051
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: I do not either. Actually liked him. I watched him

1052
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: last week. He's pretty good. It's real. He's want in

1053
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: a modern line that We'll have to talk about his

1054
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: scouting report in a second. And then in the second

1055
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: round you get the offensive tackle to Wand Jones from

1056
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,959
Speaker 1: Ohio State. You get you go a little offensive line

1057
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: versatility in the second round. So there's your scenarios. What

1058
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: are we debating here? Don't ask me which one is

1059
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: your favorite. There's zero debate. It's five Wow. Be Jean

1060
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: Robinson and the key Ringo question. You give me like

1061
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: all world trades at corner in the second and you

1062
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: give me a top three overall player in the first go,

1063
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: So don't even think about it. Sounds very much like

1064
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: getting Lamb and digs that draft at the same time. Yeah, yeah,

1065
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean where it's a surplus on a

1066
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: skilled position. Yeah, and then you also turn around and

1067
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: you you shure up your corner spot. Ring I mean,

1068
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: Ringo is digs with better athleticism, Yeah he is. Yeah,

1069
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: maybe not the ball skills, but he's got really good

1070
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: ball skills though, I think. Yeah, but Trayvon's like Trayvon's different. Yeah,

1071
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: but can you read me the Addison one again? Please? Yes?

1072
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison wide receiver from USC or Jackson Smith and

1073
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: Jigbua wide receiver from Ohio State in the first round.

1074
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: Second round. It's Jack Campbell the linebacker for Okay, you

1075
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: like that one? No, I just was curious. I like

1076
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: Jack Campbell, but I don't know, I don't know, And

1077
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: that was me even saying, Okay, you got you got

1078
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: lucky in the first round, you didn't get lucky in

1079
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: the second round. And I still put Jack Campbell there.

1080
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: I like Jack as well, but I mean he's probably

1081
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: a top seventy player. He sounds like an accountant. He's

1082
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: a really he's a big one. No, I know, just

1083
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: the name. The name sounds like that shot kind of

1084
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: looks like like Jack Campbell's state farm when you watch him.

1085
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: That's kind of what you you yet like, Yeah, just

1086
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: really fundamentally sound, not super flashy, but is gonna do

1087
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: linebacker things at high wrong. The scenario three interest you

1088
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: at all? Say it again? Say it Michael Meyer, the

1089
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: tight end from Notre Dame, and then Keanu Benton, interior

1090
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: defensive lineman from Wisconsin. Round second, first and second round. Yeah,

1091
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they gonna take a d getting Benton

1092
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: in the second round. A guy like Benton could be

1093
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: a game changer. He can't, he can't, he can. I

1094
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: honestly feel like the first scenario is one of my favorites.

1095
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: And I only say that because those are the two

1096
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: I keep saying. Michael Meyer, it's mayor mayor, Yeah, because

1097
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, what is that Friday the thirteenth, whatever, the

1098
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: movie Michael Meyer, No, Michael Myers, mayor mask No, not

1099
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: the match, but the Osirius Torrence. He said in the

1100
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: first round Osirius Torrance, first round, Jalen Hyatt is your

1101
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: second round pick. I'm not gonna fight that. That's yours. Yeah,

1102
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fight I'm not gonna fight that situation.

1103
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: I think you get goodness on both sides. Now. I

1104
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: know that you guys talked about Osiris yesterday. I was

1105
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: listening to you guys talk about I'm more critical of

1106
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: him than I think than Dane is, just because if

1107
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: he continues to lose weight, I think I'll be okay

1108
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: with this one. And I think he can get in

1109
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: shape here. But too if you put him. You talk

1110
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: about Salari and those guys, they like a lot of

1111
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: combo blocks, all that stuff. Man, put them next to Tyler.

1112
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: You might be just moving people out the way on

1113
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: a very strength lip strength and strength going up against

1114
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: anybody clip and then Hyatt obviously like being able to

1115
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: stretch the field and all that stuff. I think I

1116
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: will be eye with that. What is your what do

1117
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: you see when you see Osirius Torrance because we're looking

1118
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: at footage of them. Now, what oh out of Wisconsin

1119
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: way back in the day. Who was that? No, Eric

1120
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: Gibson was a tackle from Wisconsin that the Lions took.

1121
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 1: He was massive. He was three hundred and seventy something

1122
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: pounds ended up here in Dallas for a little bhiit.

1123
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: He was so big, but he just couldn't move. He

1124
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: just couldn't. Bobby's being a troll. That's six six, three seventy.

1125
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 1: That's o Cyrus Torren's basic head in the NFL up. Yeah,

1126
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: Especial especially made helmet. Yeah, I think that to me,

1127
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 1: I know he's not hearing. GiB I'm kidding. I knew

1128
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: you were dying. Still makes me laugh. It does make

1129
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: me laugh because that pick was made. I'm like, I went, oh,

1130
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: not in a good way. I'm sitting in a draft

1131
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: room and went, oh, like that. The only thing that

1132
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: was the only thing that I think I had my

1133
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: computer just died. My bad job. But that's probably the

1134
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: only thing I had downe about him is like his feet.

1135
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: But that was something that with even with Tyler Smith

1136
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: did I was kind of like because coming out of

1137
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: his stance last when he was uh well in college,

1138
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't the best all the time. His feet sometimes

1139
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: for a big reason why, Like his kickstep was a

1140
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: big reason why he was messing stuff up. But with Osiris,

1141
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's he's a guard, Like he's he's not

1142
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to be in space as much or whatever.

1143
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: But I do understand why y'all say his feet kind

1144
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: of look heavy. It looked so strong seeing strong. That

1145
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: was the difference with Tyler. Though Tyler was not heavy footed.

1146
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: Tyler was sloppy, yeah, and Tyler needed stuff cleaned up. Oh,

1147
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: Cyrus's looks heavy, yeah, but like the technique is all

1148
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: Tyler needed. Tyler's nimble and he's quick and he's a

1149
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: good athlete. Right, I don't know, like I if I'm

1150
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: gonna spend resources on an offensive lineman in the first round.

1151
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know that I wanted to be Osirius Torrens,

1152
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: Like like I mean, like I think that there's enough

1153
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: talent that they're building on this offensive line right now

1154
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: that I don't know that Torrens is the guy that

1155
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: I'd be willing to pass up, but I think is

1156
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: probably a better receiver and probably a better corner at

1157
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: that same spot. Okay, yeah, I mean, I'm just hopeful.

1158
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be against towards if he's drafted here.

1159
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: I don't know I'm against I'm not against it. I'm

1160
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: just not. Please please please, you can't. The strength is there,

1161
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: there's no question, and I is just right. You put

1162
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: him and Smith next to each other, and you got

1163
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: Martin and what they're doing on the other side over

1164
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: there with Steel and you know this, this head coach

1165
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: wants to get back to really running the football. You

1166
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: helped yourself running the football. You clearly helped yourself running

1167
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: the football. Well, I like, I like, Well, I don't

1168
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: think is a villa Via. Rather mean I feel like,

1169
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: if you're talking about technique, I feel like he's one

1170
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: of his hands are some of the best. Think. Yeah,

1171
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: and when you talk about, you know, maybe gett into

1172
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: the second I wouldn't. I mean not in the first

1173
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: round obviously, but if we're talking about we're not going

1174
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: to take an offensive offensive linement early, if this guy

1175
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: is available, I would. I just really seriously feel like

1176
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: he would fig very well. If you pass up Torrents,

1177
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: you pass up that opportunity or he doesn't fall. You

1178
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: got a body type that's very similar. I think a

1179
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: Via is not a Then I'm gonna use the word sloppy. Yeah,

1180
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I think that. I think. Yeah,

1181
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: but can a Via play center? Yes he can? He did.

1182
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: He played a lot of right and he did at

1183
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, and I felt like he wants something.

1184
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: He lose, he lost something, but just showing the ability

1185
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: to do that when we talk about like what is

1186
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: his offensive line need, Like obviously you talk about Matt

1187
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: Farniac and he can move everywhere, but like there's no

1188
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: short fire backup center. Yeah, Like so I just I

1189
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: don't think he would move the center with this team.

1190
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: I think a team might Tea eighteen might. But I

1191
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: when you mentioned the sloppiness of or whatever, Yeah, it's okay.

1192
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: In set Cyrus has cement shoes. Yes, yes, I don't

1193
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: see that from a Via. Can I say someth about

1194
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: Henley real quick? That linebacker? Yes that's due, Yeah, go

1195
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: ahead and fired, go for the No no, no, no, no.

1196
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: I just like him. I like him in coverage, dude,

1197
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: Like I was just so impressed with him coverage wise,

1198
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: Like I think I think in this and that Henley, Yeah,

1199
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: this guy is a downhill player. Yea. He is good

1200
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: in the open field. He's got really he reads well,

1201
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: he's got really good technique. He's not going to be

1202
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: out of position. He could play it pass carriage. Looking

1203
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: at you, You've got notes over there saying that if

1204
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken to see a former receiver he transferred from.

1205
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: He transferred from Nevada is where he went, and he

1206
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: went the former safety and receiver, and so you can

1207
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: really see that. Yeah, you can play a coverage. Yeah,

1208
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: the movement, the instincts, you can. He can carry guys

1209
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: and it clearly can do. I think that's important in

1210
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: this league. Now. I think that we see him times.

1211
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: Recruited to Washington State as a receiver, caught eight balls

1212
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: for one hundred and three yards in three touchdowns as

1213
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: a freshman in twenty seventeen. He runs routes four guys

1214
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: sometimes and I just said Nevada, Sorry at it as

1215
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: a linebacker in this league now, like, yeah, I want

1216
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: a guy that can come downhill, but I also want

1217
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: a guy that can cover when it's necessary, because that's

1218
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: seems like where a lot of coordinators are taking advantage

1219
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: of defenses now is like, can you're a linebacker covert too?

1220
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: Because we go tear him up? Do we may could

1221
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: determination what we would all do? Then on under his

1222
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: key he said five, She said scenario one. Did you

1223
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: have a favorite? A little bit? Me personally, I think

1224
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: the best players there are the one is the Bijan

1225
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: Robinson one myself, Yeah, I like, I think, I think,

1226
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: but that a lot depends what these guys do with

1227
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: a tag with moving on from guys and all that

1228
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: stuff like early this is just if you're a draft scenario,

1229
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: if you if you tell me who the best players are,

1230
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: the ones you just named, that scenario is the best

1231
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: the best players in the best second round player on

1232
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: that list is Keiley Ringo. The best first round players

1233
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: b Gen Robinson, and they're in the same stack. There's

1234
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: to me, there's zero chance if Bijan was there in

1235
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: the first and Ringo is there in second, there's zero

1236
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: chance there's a better player than either of them at

1237
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: those picks. The thing about it, too, is the likely

1238
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: scenario I think is number five. Last five is not

1239
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: the likeliest. Oh no, I'm sorry. The one with the

1240
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: guard with with O Cyrus Yeah, that's why I put

1241
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: it first, because it's hi will be interest. I think

1242
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: that'll be close. I think high. It's small for them too, Okay,

1243
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: I just like that. I think eleven Bobby's gonna eliminate

1244
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: everyone of these slight. It's a bunch of slight receivers.

1245
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: But so many of them are small, dude, and like

1246
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: just like even with the cornerbacks, like so many of

1247
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: them are long. All the receiver, all the receivers have

1248
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: warts this year, I think see And I like the

1249
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: second scenario with Jordan Addison and Jackson Smith and jig Bu.

1250
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: I would probably say Jordan Addison, he's above Jackson right now,

1251
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: just because of the injury concerns. When Jack Campbell in

1252
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: the second round, that'd be my favorite. And I think

1253
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: out of the bunch, but yeah, there's uh, there's our

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Speaker 1: second draft show this week. We'll be backbacks gonna tear

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Speaker 1: it up. The quarterbacks. The people are gonna I think

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Speaker 1: a quarterback at first round, bring them on, pick them

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Speaker 1: all before twenty six. Let's little make it happen. Drive

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Speaker 1: that drive them players down. Please all right, that's that

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Speaker 1: Miller Lite. Will be back on Wednesday to break it

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Speaker 1: down for you yet again for Bobby Belt, Brian brought

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Speaker 1: us Aisha Morrison and Beam. I'm Kyle Yoman saying so long,

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