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Hi, everybody, Welcome 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:59.800 in to the Thursday Morning Podcast. Chris Webber Seaweb will 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:04.440 join us his thoughts on the NBA Playoffs and the 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:08.720 play game so far so Baker Mayfield did an interview 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:14.000 on a podcast and he just sort of let it rip, 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.520 let it fly. At one point he said on the field, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:22.240 I'm a dickhead that's never changed. He admits he's got 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:26.360 a Napoleon syndrome. He says he felt disrespected by the Browns, 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.119 and he says he liked to go into somebody's office 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:33.240 and boo them to see how they crumble. He admitted 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:38.600 his critics also got to him. You know, Marshall McLuhan 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:43.440 is a famous scholar of communications. He famously said the 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:49.800 medium is the message, meaning not so much what you say, 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.320 but how you say it and where you choose to 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:57.160 say it. Baker was lake house with a bunch of buddies. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.840 Host is there camo hat drinking a b're very casual, 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.920 it's very let it rip. This is where I think 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:10.640 Baker Mayfield's personality has never been right to be a quarterback. 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:15.799 My wife's an artist. I'm more the compartmentalizer, the observer. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.840 We have different personalities. We make it work, but I 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:23.040 will never be able to paint like her, and she 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:25.959 won't be able to do certain things I can do. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:31.200 I think the greatest quarterbacks have talent, but their personalities 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:35.480 match the position. Tom Brady obviously is a great example. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:42.000 So is Peyton Manning. Very calculated, obsessed with preparation, from 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:48.520 the podium to a podcast, to preparation to the sidelines 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:56.600 to pre snap. You'll see very brief emotional outbursts a 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:01.600 fist pump by Brady. Peyton manningle ocasionally bark at his center, 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:08.280 but they're very much under control. Baker's personality is much 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:16.040 more comedian, surfer artist, highly emotional letter rip. That, of 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.000 course is a big advantage in surfing or a comedian. 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.560 You lean into your talent, don't overthink it, and just 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:26.919 let it go. But the Russell Wilson's, the Peyton Mannings, 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:33.399 the Tom Brady's, they understand being a franchise quarterback, everything 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:38.480 has to be planned. It's not a letter rip position. 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:45.600 Jay Cutler, Cam Newton, Baker, Mayfield sort of letter rip personalities. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:49.880 Don't think before they speak, often way too casual. It's 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.480 one of my knocks on Drew Locke, the now Seahawk quarterback. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.920 I don't need to know. Baker's got a Napoleon problem. 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.920 Right now, he's interviewing for a job with every other 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:05.560 GM in the league. Do you think they want a 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:09.400 quarterback with a short guy complex. Do you think they 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:13.320 want a quarterback who says he was bothered by the 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.400 criticism and how to get off social A quarterback who 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.360 said I'd like to go into fans cubicles and boo them. 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:25.600 He's showing weakness, He's showing an inability to control his 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:30.679 emotions that he doesn't have control of them. They control him. Again, 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:36.320 There's a reason certain people flourish in certain jobs. I 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.359 talked to myself all day. I was meant to talk. 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.360 It's what I do. I could never have been an artist. 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:47.000 There are certain positions I just don't have the right 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:51.039 emotional state for. I think Baker's talented, but he almost 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:56.960 has a linebacker's personality, a wide receiver's personality, highly emotional, 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:01.159 very casual, says the first thing that comes into his mind. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.360 There are a lot of great jobs for that quarterback. 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:10.920 In my opinion, it's not perfect. So there was a 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:15.400 baseball situation yesterday. They got people really worked up. Clayton Kershaw, 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:22.760 perfect game, after eighty pitches, he was pulled. And this 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:27.120 is something that's important. First of all, it was game two. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.920 He's six months off surgery. He's an older pitcher. He's 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:38.400 very valuable of their World Series chances. It was under 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:43.279 forty degrees under forty degrees, and this is an older picture. Now, 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:48.400 managing that arm and his health becomes really important. We 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:53.400 know this in all sports. I totally understood why the 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:57.400 Dodgers did it. Folks. Sports are not just there. Athletes 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:01.520 are not just there. For your personal and enjoy Colin, 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:05.560 There's only been twenty three perfect games and Clayton Kershaw 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:11.400 only has one left arm this franchise. The Dodgers are 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:16.560 favorites to win the World Series. Okay, the perfect game 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:22.240 is like an award. It's cute. Kershaw's a Hall of 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:26.760 Famer first ballot, his legacy is set. Got one World Series, 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:30.120 would like to have more over one hundred million dollars 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:34.680 in the bank. Okay, to win an award, throw a 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:38.920 no hit or perfect game is wonderful. But Clayton Kershaw 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:44.080 totally understood the situation. Sports is not just there for 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:50.200 your enjoyment. Big picture. If Clayton Kershaw's twenty four and 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.640 plays for the Mariners or A's with no shot to 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:56.159 win a World championship, the Royals or the Pirates, and 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.520 he's a kid not coming off surgery and it's game two, 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.480 you go for it. But the bigger picture for the 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.800 Dodgers is we're not risking an injury. I'll give you 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:12.080 an example. Kevin Durant. Remember years ago he got hurt. 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.280 He came back in for the Warriors in the playoffs, 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:20.600 and there were going to be minute limitations, but he 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.080 came back and he was on fire, and they stretched 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:28.360 how many minutes he played and he got hurt. 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And I 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.560 know it's a weird place to start, but but but 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:03.880 you know, Bill Lambier tackled people, Dennis Rodman was a 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:07.800 pain in the ass, and you know, as a Fab 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.599 five guy, as a Michigan guy, is that there is 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:16.000 absolutely in my opinion room for Patrick Beverley. But what 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:21.800 is the line, Chris, between being physical and screwing with 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:26.440 guys knees, hurting them like as a pro athlete, I 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.800 don't know what the line is. What is it with 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.120 Patrick Beverley? What does he do that bothers you? And 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.840 what are you okay with? Man? That's a great question. 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.480 Thanks for having me on, I think first, I think 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.720 everybody would want to play with them. In a quick 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.960 Bill Lamber story one of my favorite players ever growing 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.520 up in Detroit, and I used to love it. He's 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.000 one of the reasons why I love playing on the 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.559 road and would do like this, the booze, the antics. 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:53.520 He really taught us to embrace. You're gonna get hated anyway. However, 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.920 when I played against some true story my first time 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.760 in the NBA going home, I knew the guy. I 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.280 go up and get a rebound. Happened against the backboard 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.719 to show how high it could jump and go down 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.360 to the court. You know, it's like old trick and 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.800 catching tapped. The next time I go up and I 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.000 see him, he sticks his leg out and I twist 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.280 my ankle. I think maybe seventeen seconds or two minutes 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.600 into the game, something like that, and I was out 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:20.880 probably six games my rookie year. And so even though 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:22.280 he's one of my favorite players, it's one of the 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:26.280 dirtiest things that I've seen. So I did the game. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:30.839 I believe I commentate the game when he and Westbrook 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.640 pumpans like after a late time out, I don't think 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.240 that was dirty. Because I've seen players do that their 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:41.280 whole careers. However, I think the answer is not saying 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.640 anything and maybe taking one technical with a quick elbow. 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.080 It's really it's really easy if you don't get caught 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.439 up in an antic, especially in the two three game series, 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.160 it's really easy to shut them down because then they 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.920 start looking like a little clownish. The only way they 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:57.960 don't look like the clown is when they bring you 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.319 into the argument and you have to try to figure 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:04.000 out who's really you know, active who's the bad actorings, Yeah, 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:05.559 I know that's what he did with Morris. He got 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.839 him worked up, he got into his head. Was there 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.480 ever a guy in the league that was a talker 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:14.440 with you and try to reel you in? Not a talker? 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:16.640 Because you couldn't get me that way. So if you 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:20.600 wanted to slide under the Collins brothers, I hated playing 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:27.800 them Naharah Mattson. Any guy then that would fly smarten, 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.240 use their brain, get in front of you. But I 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.040 hated those guys because they got the benefit of the doubt. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.120 They're beating you up just as much and they're getting 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.520 the benefit of the doubt. And to me, those guys 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.200 were I'm gonna say just as a fact that they 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.200 don't have the winning record of a Rotten and but 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.480 in games they're just as you know, as effective as 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.120 a Beverty as well. So yeah, those guys I used 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.160 to I used to hate hate playing this stuff guys. 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:54.160 So I'm not going to ask you necessarily to pick 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.040 a series, but I want to talk kind of fundamentally 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:02.800 holistically about the league. So I don't buy the Celtics 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.720 and I don't buy the Heat. And my reason is, 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.679 and I do buy Brooklyn because my theory is when 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.920 the playoffs start, refs swallow the whistle, they get out 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.679 of the way, and this is when stars can really 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:24.680 manipulate marginal players and average players. And outside of Jason Tatum, 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.280 Celtics don't have a closer out. I don't think Miami 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.959 does have a closer. I think Jimmy's just a great athlete, 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:36.360 same with Bam and so Brooklyn's got so many things. 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.760 I don't like, their size, their bench, the lack of chemistry. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:47.319 They're so KD Kyrie centric. Would you rather play a 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:51.080 Boston who grinds your ass on the defensive end? Who 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.559 has they don't have the star power, but every time 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:59.400 down the floor, or would you rather play you know, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.600 that kind of team but they don't have stars or 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.240 a Brooklyn who's got two guys that are unstoppable, but 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:09.320 all sorts of holes all over the team. I remember 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:12.640 playing against Dallas, who at the time had the fastest pace. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.520 It was Finley, Nash and Dirt. Remember those teams, you 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.840 don't want to play them. You just don't because you 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.600 just have no rest of thought because when those three 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.640 on the court, you really have to be engaged every 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:27.040 single player, every because every play is a threat. I 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.480 really thought Cleveland could have come back. I told someone 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.280 I called him early in the second half. I said, 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.520 Cleveland's going to come back and win this game. But 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.080 I didn't take into effect that Duran is one of 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.120 the best shooters ever to play, right. But yeah, I 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.520 could definitely, you know, I'm like you, I would take them, 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.160 but I would rather, you know, play a team that 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:48.160 doesn't have those options in the Boston and that as well. 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:53.240 I agree. Yeah, so you're basically what you're saying Brooklyn 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:57.840 does is they put such immense pressure on you because 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.880 if you're not alert, they will score it. Well, I 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.360 mean the shots that Katie was hitting into me and 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.160 basketball the hardest shot in the game. And Jordan Master 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:12.360 m k D Master. You can Curry's mastered every shot. 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.040 Kobe Master is too dribble pull up going baseline because 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:17.720 you really don't know how to check the guy if 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:19.600 you pump fakes, can you continue to go? And the 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.120 shots that Kade was hitting, you know, it was terrible. 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.640 It was great defense, and he pulls up and shoots 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.840 that tough shot that really if you're another team, if 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.800 anybody else but those two, I'm taking my chances with 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:33.760 that shot, making the guy take a shot off the 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.360 dribble fading right too. And so I just yeah, I 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.280 just it gets so deflating. It's almost like a dump 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.280 used to be worth more than two points because it 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.960 would take the air out of your team. And it's 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.800 it's the same way as a bomb. It's seven points, 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.400 but you know it hurts more than the one yard running. 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.560 So you know, I totally agree with you in that theory. 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.760 And I think a lot of people you know, are 0:15:55.080 --> 0:16:00.480 over they have two high expectations on Boston. I feel 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.160 you that way. I think people don't take for granted 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.720 you need a couple closures in the playoffs, and you know, 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:06.760 one of those guys get cold, you can go to another. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.440 And that's why Brooklyn and he has, you know, definitely advantage. 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.440 What tell me the difference between regular season and playoff basketball, 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.560 Like last night, they don't count the playing game as 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.480 the playoffs. And I said on the air, I said, 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.720 that's playoff basketball. You can call it whatever you want. 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:26.520 But even the officiating they were letting guys bump, you 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.080 know they I felt watching and I'm like, oh, that's 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.440 playoff basketball. You can call it whatever. So you tell 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.120 me go back to your career, Like where could you 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.240 really tell because you notice rookies getting tighter, young guys 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:46.000 getting tighter. I think two things for me, how loud 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.600 the fans were, Like everything was just over exaggerated, Like 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.800 now's the time you become a start, Like the guy 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.320 off the bistic gets one minute and one still there's 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.760 a hundred people outside waiting for him if you get 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:00.960 to win. So just that you feel you WWF. You 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.000 know you can cut the intensity with a not if 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:06.240 you really feel that. I always used to really notice that. 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.639 And then second, how tired you would get in the 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.600 first quarter, Like I can't explain I don't know what 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.680 that is, is that nerves enginer, is that how you're 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:19.440 boring up is everything? But it was almost like, you know, 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.080 you have no more excuses and you've been waiting, even emotionally, 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.720 to put everything into this moment. And so I think 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.400 it really is the energy and how do you make 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.120 sure you give your all the times but still conserved 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.119 at times you don't need to waste it pumping up 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.080 the crowd, you know, so you know the crowd, and 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.320 then kind of how your body reacted to the moment. 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.440 You know, it's it's kind of special. So when you 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:47.720 go over to the Western side, a team that I 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:52.960 find really interesting, Golden State. So Jordan Pool is now 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:58.119 emerging as a star. Clay Thompson's not quite what he 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.359 was off injury, and when Clay plays a lot of minutes, 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:06.200 I think it hinders Jordan Pool. And I think everybody 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:10.600 knows that on the roster. But Clays your guy, Okay, Clays, 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.280 you're dude. You travel with them, You've probably got into weddings, 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.159 you get into a weird situation where everybody in the 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.440 damn rooms like, should do Jordan Pool needs to play 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:23.280 forty two minutes? Tell me how difficult that is when 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:27.639 one of your guys, you know, he's eroding, he's not ascending, 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:31.080 and here comes the young buck. Can it screw with chemistry? 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:37.639 So I heard you today, and I hope that for 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:39.359 fans sake. You know, I love it when you go 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.520 off on tangents or rabbit holes, and I hope that 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.520 you really go down the rabbit hole of the draft. 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.040 Pick does not mean as much in big cities anymore, 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.000 and you're so right, you need to really go down 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.399 that rabbit hole. I'm sure the researchers can get you 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.639 a lot of them. LA didn't get shocked, you know, 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:58.679 they didn't draft, So I totally you know, I agree 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.639 with you on that. However, I don't know if I 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.880 can answer this question and not be sentimental. I think 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.399 that's the problem that Clay gives. They are a dynasty. 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.879 They were a dynasty. You're right in every way, but 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.919 I'm just adding the motion which you're gonna have to 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.679 take an effect for fans and other things, especially if 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:19.720 you don't win one and you're betting on Pool, who 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:23.320 is gonna be great. But you know you would do 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.680 that to Clay and he's not yet a full year 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:32.520 in Uh. You know he this dynasty never got a 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.600 chance to win once we saw a team get hurt 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.160 or Katie get hurt. You know, this unfinished business. He's 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.800 you know, of course Draymama, the last vestiges of that soul. 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.199 If you are right, I would not want to be 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.920 part of that. I was in Detroit again Pisiness band 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:52.920 when we had a parade, and I think the next 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.040 day and Rick Moore said, oh, thank you for helping 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:57.880 me lose all this weight. I love you. Like three 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:01.000 days later he was trading for I believe Mark require 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.360 and I mean as a pistess bander and we won, 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:05.119 but I was just hurting man, and I would not 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.240 want to be the man that trading play Thompson because 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:11.840 if it what works, like there's anything but a championship works, 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:15.440 And if not, I think keeping him around still trying 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:18.080 to win a championship may be the best. But I 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:21.640 do think that makes sense. Yeah, I mean, listen, this 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.720 is all It's a relationship business. I mean, the truth 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:29.399 is Steph Curry has made the owner a billion dollars 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:36.600 easily in in value of franchise. In marketing sales, you 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:39.080 do sometimes have to go to your star and say, 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:42.440 hey man, this is this is a go either way decision, 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.560 you know. I mean, I think I gotta get more 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:48.639 form though, I gotta get more and I think you 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:52.520 said Athony Davis earlier, I'm not I'm not taking him. 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.000 I don't, I don't you know, I'm not. I'm not 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:58.360 taking him for Clay for the community because it is relationship. 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:00.760 So right, if we're gonna do that, we gotta go. 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:04.080 We gotta go get maybe Bill and someone else and 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.560 give up our picks. Because I really believe you on that. 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.359 But I just don't think you know, we're gonna have 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:11.439 to go for a super superstar because that's who I 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:14.040 believe he would. I still believe he has two years 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:16.000 is left to be ever, so let's go to that. 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:22.280 Let's pivot to the Lakers that I'm I think people 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.000 tell you are who they are. I think it was 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.400 Maya Angelo who said that people tell you who they are, 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:32.040 believe them. So when Ad came in out of shape 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:35.920 off the Bubble Championship, I mean, Lebron is sitting everything 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:39.080 in time out. I'm obsessed with this sport, dude. I 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.240 just need you to be in shape as a pro athlete, 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.879 I would have moved off him there by low sell high. 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:50.080 Now with the injuries, this is who he is. He's 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.359 showing you who he is. He's not a workout fiend. 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.840 It's not really a leader. He's hella talented, but he's 0:21:55.880 --> 0:22:03.120 hurt increasingly more. What was your feeling when you were 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:07.679 in the game about athletes that get hurt? Is it 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:11.200 bad form to move off them? Or did you always 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:15.040 feel like, hey man, some dudes they just they can't 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.680 give you eighty two. They can mean how did as 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.520 a pro athlete, how do you view that? Yeah, and 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:24.320 I was plagued by injuries or like ankle injuries, things 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:27.199 like that. So AD's last injury you can tell like 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:30.320 it wasn't as fault, you know, like Curry suffered injuries. 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.840 But I think you know, if you're gonna get injured, 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:36.639 I want to know what guy will work is, you know, 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.359 tail off to come back the fastest. So then I 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.360 have to take your work ethic into a kind And 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:45.159 so I do think some guys is unfair. And I 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:48.480 do think as an athlete, you work out a lot 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.280 so that you can feel confident that you won't have 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:53.560 those breakdowns, and then you look at guys that don't 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.120 work out, and you say, see, that's why. And so 0:22:56.440 --> 0:23:01.480 it's not even the injuries, you know, I just I 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:04.560 just go back to the previous memory of anybody playing 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:09.000 with Lebron. That's how I just played because I know 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:13.040 it's a different day and you can win championships, and 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.680 I think, you know, my generation should kind of admire 0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:18.520 the fact that you can go play with friends and 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:25.920 free agency. But at the same time, you know, watching 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:27.879 a guy like Dirk even though he won a championship, 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:31.280 but you knew he was a winner even before if 0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:33.720 he would have never won one because of how you 0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.080 knew he put Dallas on his back and he could 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.600 trust that he just needed help. I never felt that 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:40.840 way with a d that he just needed help. I 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:45.560 felt that he could be that missing piece for someone else, 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.119 but that no one else could be that. And I 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.199 don't know when he's proven that. That's why he's a 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:56.159 wonderful talent. But you know, I I'm just looking, you know, 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:59.879 and he had some big shots with Lebron. I get that, 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.119 but you know, we're talking about him being an outfit, 0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.120 and I don't I don't know when when that's worked. 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:08.200 So I'm not as high on an injury or not 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.439