WEBVTT - 2025 NFL Combine: GM Eric DeCosta & HC John Harbaugh

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into the Ravens Press Pass podcast. The twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five NFL Scouting Combine is now in the books. The

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens had a chance to take a look at the

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<v Speaker 1>incoming class of prospects and put in some work to

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<v Speaker 1>build out the draft board for the upcoming draft in April.

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<v Speaker 1>Now during the week in Indianapolis, we had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from several of the Ravens executives, including GM

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Costa.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, everyone, We'll get started with questions. Thanks for coming man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a that's a that's a deep question. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>blessed to be a part of an organization where we've

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<v Speaker 2>had three head coaches and two gms. I think that that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, continuity is huge in decision making, having support

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<v Speaker 2>from ownership, putting processes, play systems, feeling good about the process,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing the other people in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think shared experience, calling on historical things that have

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<v Speaker 2>happened in the past to help you make decisions. I

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<v Speaker 2>think factors in the biggest thing is really just having

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<v Speaker 2>an owner that believes in you and has put you

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<v Speaker 2>in place to succeed and believes you will succeed, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've been blessed to have Steepashaty in my life for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. Here. Well, I think you're always you know,

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<v Speaker 2>every smart team is always looking for quarterbacks. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback league, and whether you're looking for a backup, a

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<v Speaker 2>practice squad quarterback, a starting quarterback, you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to win without one. We're blessed to have Lamar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>Before that, we were blessed to have Joe Flacco. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>living in a world without a quarterback is a tough

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<v Speaker 2>world to live in.

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<v Speaker 3>We understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys drive the league, and so you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a tough position to be in.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think if you've got to write people and.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust the process, you can find one. Well, I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot goes into that. First of all, a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate the question. The allegations are serious, concerning the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of allegations are serious and concerning. I think we're fortunate

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<v Speaker 2>that the league is doing an investigation. We'll wait as

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<v Speaker 2>patiently as we can for as much information as we can,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll make a decisions based on that. Well, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>like every position, we're going to evaluate rank the board.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been doing that for the last twenty nine years.

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<v Speaker 2>We're blessed to have a really good kickers coach and

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<v Speaker 2>Randy Brown, who does a phenomenal job evaluating punters and

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<v Speaker 2>kickers and long snappers for us every single season. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>meet with Randy throughout the process. Over the coming weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll travel all over the country looking at these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll build the best board that we can give it.

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<v Speaker 4>Zero that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think again, it's a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest thing that we have to do

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<v Speaker 2>first of all is look at every single case differently.

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<v Speaker 2>There are no absolutes, and I think in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>we're still a waiting as much information as possible. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>we're fortunate that the league is it's come down to Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 3>I met with the league.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe the league is meeting with other people in

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<v Speaker 2>Baltimore as well. We'll wait for the details of that

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<v Speaker 2>investigation and we'll make a decision based on that. I

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<v Speaker 2>really can't because again, we look at every case differently,

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<v Speaker 2>and the facts in every single case.

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<v Speaker 3>We do this for a living.

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<v Speaker 2>We study players, we look at background, we consider all

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<v Speaker 2>these different things. Every case is entirely different, different facts,

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<v Speaker 2>different situations. So we'll wait for the investigation to take

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<v Speaker 2>place and we'll make a decision based off of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So, we were aware that local media outlet was getting

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<v Speaker 2>prepared to do a story on Justin Tucker, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was the first time that we became aware of those allegations,

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<v Speaker 2>of the potential allegations.

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<v Speaker 3>That might result.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I think, you know, I've answered what four questions

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<v Speaker 2>on this situation. I did meet with Justin. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>keep those comments to myself and personal conversations with Justin.

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<v Speaker 2>I think is probably the smart thing to do. But

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, we did, you know, meet, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm gonna say about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know, I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's a good, you know, a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good class draft wise, free agency wise as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we do a really good job.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very happy to see the development that our young

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<v Speaker 2>receivers have made the last couple of years. Greg Lewis

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<v Speaker 2>does a great job coaching those guys up. Our players

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<v Speaker 2>really did a good job this year. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>there's a good opportunity for us to find some good talent,

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<v Speaker 2>either through free agency or the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, in every round, uh and every.

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<v Speaker 2>Price point and uh, and you know, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>other point is that we've got some really good tight

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<v Speaker 2>ends as well. And I think this year we really

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<v Speaker 2>he did see kind of our vision for the offense

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<v Speaker 2>come together with playmakers across the board, whether it's running back, receiver,

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<v Speaker 2>tight end, backup running back, back up receivers, backup tight ends.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, Uh, it was kind of what we've hoped

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<v Speaker 2>for the last couple of years, and we had a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to see that come to fruition. Well, Ronnie and

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<v Speaker 2>I did a deal the last time, so that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. He and I have a good friendship. We've known

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<v Speaker 3>each other for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a great agent in Kim Miale. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, never want to say one hundred percent, but

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<v Speaker 2>I feel good that we'll have a good, healthy debate,

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<v Speaker 2>a good process. We're going to meet with Kim in

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<v Speaker 2>Indy this week, and Uh, I'm optimistic that we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>able to get a deal done. Well, that's a coaching question.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've seen you know, we think Roger had

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<v Speaker 2>a great year last year. He's a very good athlete.

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<v Speaker 2>He's way mature than a typical young player. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he proved that this year with how he played and

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<v Speaker 2>competed the week in week out, whether it was on

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<v Speaker 2>field performance against good players coming back from injuries and

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<v Speaker 2>things like that. So he's definitely a factor on the

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<v Speaker 2>left side if need be. I think we'll try to

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<v Speaker 2>find the best five guys we can. I think there

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<v Speaker 2>were a lot of questions about the offensive line last year,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think we did a pretty good job of

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<v Speaker 2>putting a pretty competitive offensive line together on the field

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<v Speaker 2>last year, and I would expect the same to be

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<v Speaker 2>whole true this year. Yeah, I mean, I think Cliff

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<v Speaker 2>it really just comes down to the best player at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and we're always gonna say that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's something that we've said every single year, he's starting

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<v Speaker 2>back to nineteen ninety six with Ozzie as the GM.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna draft best available players. So I think if

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<v Speaker 2>we're picking at you know, twenty seven, and there's an

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<v Speaker 2>edge rusher and he's the best guy, we're probably gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pick him and it's gonna hold through with every round.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's an important position. I think we were

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<v Speaker 2>maybe second in the league in sacks last year, but

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<v Speaker 2>having a continuous influx of young pass rush talent, guys

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<v Speaker 2>that can set the edge and play the run, guys

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<v Speaker 2>that play like Ravens, physical players who can.

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<v Speaker 3>Get to the quarterback. I think that's a priority for

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<v Speaker 3>us for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Derrick Henry, I mean, Derek is just a phenomenal worker.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a pro, does everything the right way, the way

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<v Speaker 2>that he practices, the way that he takes care of

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<v Speaker 2>his body, his mentality on the field, his leadership, his talent.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's freakishly talented. I mean his combination of

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<v Speaker 2>size and speed. So he was just the perfect player

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<v Speaker 2>for us. I think last year the right addition, and

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<v Speaker 2>he brought a lot to the table on the field

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<v Speaker 2>and also off the field with intangible qualities. We're blessed

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<v Speaker 2>to have him, and I would expect his successes last

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<v Speaker 2>year to continue this year.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's a tough question.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's you know, running backs are kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like the stock market. They've been up. When I was

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, running back was was was arguably the most

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<v Speaker 2>important position on the field. You know, I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>a Cowboys fan, and you know, Tony dors said, Emmitt Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>guys like that were my idols. And then we went

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<v Speaker 2>through this period of the last what five ten years,

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<v Speaker 2>the analytics emphasis sort of de emphasized the position. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think last year you saw the impact that some

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<v Speaker 2>of these guys had. And you know, Howie Roseman a

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<v Speaker 2>great GM went out and got Saquon and they won

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<v Speaker 2>a Super Bowl. And you know a lot of credit

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<v Speaker 2>to Howie, and but I think you know, these are

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<v Speaker 2>guys that touched the ball. These are guys that impact games.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're looked at is probably replaceable by some people,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you've got a great one, if you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a historic one, you can't replace those guys. They impact

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<v Speaker 2>the game in many different ways and they create nightmares

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<v Speaker 2>for defenses. Well, I think that you always want to

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<v Speaker 2>be strong, you know, through your middle, and something that

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've prioritized with Kyle as a safety, Rokwan,

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<v Speaker 2>our defensive tackles, Travers, Nmd, Linderbaum, Lamar, all those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I believe in that as well being strong

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<v Speaker 2>up the middle. It's always going to be an allocation

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<v Speaker 2>of resources and where you spend your money every year.

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<v Speaker 2>There's different schools of thought, but you've got to be physical.

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<v Speaker 2>We've always prided ourselves on being a physical football team

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<v Speaker 2>that can stop to run, run the ball, protect the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>rush the passer, and win games in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this draft class is pretty strong, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've got on the defensive line, You've got

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<v Speaker 2>some guys, some defensive ends that when we say defensive end,

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<v Speaker 2>we mean outside linebackers. So that's you might hear me

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<v Speaker 2>reference outside linebackers. Other clubs might calm defensive ends. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've got some defensive tackles that are fine prospects.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on the interior, we see a number of

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<v Speaker 2>guards that could get picked in the first and second

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<v Speaker 2>round and probably provide early value and start right away

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<v Speaker 2>for their drafting clubs like to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. I see Michelle over here.

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<v Speaker 2>She helps Deck rate my office wall, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>we have a picture of Derek going up on my wall.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does that tell you? Lamar's got a great voice,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, he's a student of the game. He watches players,

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<v Speaker 2>he knows talent. Now we do does love the Miami

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<v Speaker 2>guys and the Florida guys, but listen, Lamar has a

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<v Speaker 2>he's a stakeholder, he's a partner. He's earned that right

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<v Speaker 2>to be to have that type of input and opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of guys haven't earned that right, but

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar has earned that right. It's important, it's necessary, and

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<v Speaker 2>I welcome his input and I'll get texts from him.

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<v Speaker 2>And there have been some years where I've gone down

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<v Speaker 2>and visited visited with him and probably do to do

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<v Speaker 2>to do that again, to take a trip down to

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<v Speaker 2>Florida and spend some time with him. But he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a great command of the offense. He made great strides

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<v Speaker 2>this year in every fact. You know, he's my MVP,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, I think his impact on our team is

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<v Speaker 2>is impossible to measure.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to answer that. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Lamar is Lamar.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a two time MVP, in my opinion, should have

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<v Speaker 2>been a three time MVP, so different status.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what I would say.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to earn those kind of rights.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, upside is how good can this guy be?

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<v Speaker 2>Position need is like we need a player to play

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<v Speaker 2>right away my opinion. You know, with positional need, it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds great at the time you draft the player, you

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<v Speaker 2>pencil him in, but if he doesn't have the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to play at a high level. Then typically you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be disappointed, your fans are gonna be disappointed.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna look at.

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<v Speaker 2>As a as A as a bad pick. So you

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<v Speaker 2>want the best player in any given situation. You need

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<v Speaker 2>to change day to day. I mean, We've been in situations.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been on teams where I felt like we had

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<v Speaker 2>great depth at corner, great depth at tight end. In

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<v Speaker 2>the matter of a couple of weeks, we had no depth.

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<v Speaker 2>I go back to the year that in a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of a couple of weeks we lost you know, JK

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<v Speaker 2>Gus Edwards and Justice and had no running backs. Literally

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<v Speaker 2>a Friday afternoon calling agents, trying to find somebody to

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<v Speaker 2>come to Baltimore. And fortunately we're able to get a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of guys that came in and really saved us

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<v Speaker 2>that year in many different ways.

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<v Speaker 3>And so, you know, need changes. But you win with talent,

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<v Speaker 3>you win with players.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always, if I have my choice, I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>going with upside and I'm always going with talent. What

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<v Speaker 2>was that, I mean, you guys know the Ravens. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, right player at the right price. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have a lot of cap room we have

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Mattio working tirelessly to find some space for us.

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<v Speaker 2>We call it couch cushion coins. You know, like we're

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<v Speaker 2>just we're trying to find fifty grand here, seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>grand there in a couch cushion. But you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>a team that's gonna make a lot of big splashes

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<v Speaker 2>generally speaking, I mean, we're probably gonna have eleven draft

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<v Speaker 2>picks this year. My goal would be to hit on

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<v Speaker 2>a large percentage of those draft picks, to find good, young,

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<v Speaker 2>inexpensive talent to put guys in for the future, because

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<v Speaker 2>the reality of it is, when you're paying guys like

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson and the Marlon Humphreys and the Namdi Mattabeks

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<v Speaker 2>and the Rokwan Smiths and guys like that, and the

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<v Speaker 2>guys like someday probably Tyler Linderbaum and guys like Kyle Hamilton,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a draft well every single year so that

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<v Speaker 2>you always have an open window. It gives us a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more, but when you're starting with as few

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<v Speaker 2>dollars as we have, it's it's a savior, but we

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<v Speaker 2>still would like to have more money, and then we're

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<v Speaker 2>a victim of our own success. In some ways because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you guys, remember when when I did

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<v Speaker 2>become GM, one of my main priorities was to retain

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<v Speaker 2>as much of our own homegrown talent as possible. And

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<v Speaker 2>we have a lot of homegrown talent, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>good problem to have, but it also means that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have as much money to go out and go

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<v Speaker 2>after players that are on homegrown talent. So any addition

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<v Speaker 2>of money we can get is very helpful. It still

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that we're going to break the bank and

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<v Speaker 2>free agency. We're still going to be going after those

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<v Speaker 2>Vetri minimum guys, which you know, Joy's Cokeyness and Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Asseveda do a great job finding those type of players.

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<v Speaker 2>We're still going to be trying to find the guys

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<v Speaker 2>that we can get that we think are good value,

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<v Speaker 2>that may be come to us and play better than

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<v Speaker 2>what we expected. And we have a lot of those guys,

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<v Speaker 2>right And you know those guys that come in and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, man, this guy's really good. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>the Raven's got this guy for a million and a

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<v Speaker 2>half dollars. Those guys are critical for us to sustain

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<v Speaker 2>the success that we've had because the reality is we

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<v Speaker 2>just can't go out and spend two hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>then offseason on players like some teams do.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just not gonna be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>Comp Yeah, I mean, I think Mark is a great player.

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<v Speaker 2>We're blessed to have three really good tight ends under

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<v Speaker 2>contract this year.

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<v Speaker 3>They all contributed in different ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Their chemistry, their camaraderie, their impact on the offense, the

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with the other skill guys is great. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark's gonna go down as one of our great players.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll be in the Ring of Honors someday. I love

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<v Speaker 2>having Mark on the team. He's an awesome player. I

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<v Speaker 2>know he's gonna have an amazing season.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll figure out all the roster machinations over the coming weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can tell you there's no bigger fan of

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Andrews than me.

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<v Speaker 3>And Uh. He's been a blessing to have on the team.

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<v Speaker 2>His leadership, the way he approaches the game, his attention

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<v Speaker 2>to detail.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just one of those guys. Thank you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We also heard from head coach John Harbaugh.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, good seeing everybody appreciate you all being here

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<v Speaker 6>for us.

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<v Speaker 5>What you got you focused on high school age students.

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<v Speaker 3>What draws you in a high school experience and what

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<v Speaker 3>makes it special?

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<v Speaker 6>That's the best question that we're going to have all

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<v Speaker 6>day to day. The best the high school experience. We're

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<v Speaker 6>doing something we all came through high school. We all

0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:46.640
<v Speaker 6>understand how formative that is, right, and the high school experience,

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<v Speaker 6>whether it's uh sports, football or basketball, or band or

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<v Speaker 6>theater or clubs or whatever, make a huge difference in

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<v Speaker 6>young lives, right, you know that? And the impact that

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<v Speaker 6>you have is a coach in any of those areas,

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<v Speaker 6>just like a teacher, can be life transformational. It can

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<v Speaker 6>be transformational for amazing things. It can be transformational for

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<v Speaker 6>not so good things or bad things too. And the

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<v Speaker 6>idea that that we want to help coaches in every

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<v Speaker 6>way we can to be the best they can be

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<v Speaker 6>for the young people that they're responsible for because they

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<v Speaker 6>took on that job of coaching them is something that's

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<v Speaker 6>really important to all of it. It should be important to

0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.000
<v Speaker 6>all of us. It's important to the Hardball Coaching Academy

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<v Speaker 6>to us, and we want to help out where we

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<v Speaker 6>can high schools. To take one piece of advice I

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<v Speaker 6>got from my high school coach. We had a coach

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<v Speaker 6>that his name was Pete Palmer. He was called push

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<v Speaker 6>up Pete. And if you did, he was my baseball coach.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you didn't run out of ground ball or

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<v Speaker 6>a fly ball, you got to run around the football stadium,

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<v Speaker 6>which is about a half a mile. You know, baseball

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<v Speaker 6>players don't like running too much sometimes, so hustle, you know, hustle.

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<v Speaker 6>That's probably the best advice I got early on. The

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<v Speaker 6>hustle serves you well in life.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, NFL investigators on going earlier here when out

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<v Speaker 4>and a little the allegation serious and it's certain has

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<v Speaker 4>had does that sort of some up your reaction to.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, Uh, you know it's uh, it's not what you

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<v Speaker 6>want to wake up and read. You know, you don't

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<v Speaker 6>want to read about it. It's not something you want

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<v Speaker 6>to see. I don't care what it is in terms of,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, things that are are hurtful and harmful to people.

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<v Speaker 6>There's too many headlines like that, too many stories that

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<v Speaker 6>you hear that just make you just just sad, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>and disappointed. And you don't want to ever see a

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<v Speaker 6>circumstance of situation, especially as if it relates to you know,

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<v Speaker 6>your world where you know, anybody's made to feel less

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<v Speaker 6>than great when they come and are involved in a

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<v Speaker 6>work experience somewhere, you know, and as it touches all

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<v Speaker 6>of us in our lives, we want to do everything

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<v Speaker 6>we can to make sure that this is just the

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<v Speaker 6>opposite that everybody feels like they have a great work experience.

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<v Speaker 6>You guys have been in our place every day and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, you know what we try to do with that.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's just really a tough deal. And the NFL

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<v Speaker 6>is looking into it. Uh, they're gonna come up, but

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<v Speaker 6>they're gonna review it. They're gonna try to gather all

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<v Speaker 6>the facts and hopefully we'll have a I'm sure we'll

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<v Speaker 6>have an understanding of it at that time. And then

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<v Speaker 6>once there's an understanding of it, then you have a

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<v Speaker 6>chance to you know, uh make some decisions and determinations

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<v Speaker 6>and things like that.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's where we're at right now.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what you can fail.

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<v Speaker 6>First point of the yeah, and that's that's what we're

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<v Speaker 6>waiting to try to do, is reconcile it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. It's uh, it's uh, that's what the process

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<v Speaker 5>is for. You know.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why you've got to You've got to come to

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<v Speaker 6>an understanding if you can, about what happened. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>we've all got questions, but nobody knows exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 5>So let's see where the review takes us.

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<v Speaker 4>When did you first learn deplication? And second when you're

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<v Speaker 4>that confers.

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<v Speaker 6>Sitting there, Chelsea, Yeah, I learned after Eric told me.

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<v Speaker 6>I think right before it came out. Maybe the banner

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<v Speaker 6>had called Eric and told him that there was something

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<v Speaker 6>coming out. We didn't know anything about what it was

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<v Speaker 6>gonna be, so I knew what it was when I

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<v Speaker 6>read it, and then, uh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>A week and a half.

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<v Speaker 6>Two weeks after that, I gave Justin a call on

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<v Speaker 6>a Sunday morning and we had a conversation about it

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<v Speaker 6>and talked about it more about you know, just more

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<v Speaker 6>from a perspective of being together for all these years.

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<v Speaker 6>You know kind of what he was going through and

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<v Speaker 6>you know what he was dealing with with that and

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<v Speaker 6>kind of how he was handled with his family and

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<v Speaker 6>things like that, and that was really what we talked about.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you say it again?

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<v Speaker 4>Assuation likes frien.

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<v Speaker 5>Sa year great question.

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<v Speaker 6>When it rises to a national level, how do you

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<v Speaker 6>approach it Really it's not so much about like what

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<v Speaker 6>level national or what level of attention something gets. It's

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<v Speaker 6>the fact that it's so important to somebody in our program.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, to me, it's like people walk in the

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<v Speaker 6>door in this job, you know, kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 6>god appointment sometimes we call it, but things come up

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<v Speaker 6>all the time. You could be dug deep in the

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<v Speaker 6>middle of some football related task and someone walks in

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<v Speaker 6>your door with something that's number one important to them

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<v Speaker 6>and they're talking to you know, the boss, so to speaker,

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<v Speaker 6>the head or whatever, and they just they need your

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<v Speaker 6>time and they need your attention.

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<v Speaker 5>So to me, it's exactly the same as any one

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<v Speaker 5>of those conversations that you'd.

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<v Speaker 3>Have lost drafts going on.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well sure it's uh, you know, every position isupport

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<v Speaker 6>and we're gonnaok at every single position, but certainly different

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<v Speaker 6>years you look at different positions. Uh we we we're

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<v Speaker 6>looking at kickers. I mean, we're looking at a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of positions. We're looking at every position. But I'd say

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<v Speaker 6>the kicker position would have been a priority no matter what,

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<v Speaker 6>because you know, our Justin's our kicker.

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<v Speaker 5>We love him and I expect him.

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<v Speaker 6>Would have you know always expected him to keep keep

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<v Speaker 6>going forever, but nobody goes forever. So we've got to

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<v Speaker 6>look at every position like we do, not what you

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<v Speaker 6>all the big picture of the coaching changes. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 6>the thing that we found in the last three, four

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<v Speaker 6>or five years, we've had a lot of coaching changes,

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<v Speaker 6>and uh, different reasons for different coaching changes. Guys have

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<v Speaker 6>gotten opportunities. We've had a lot of success, and uh

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 6>that's a good thing, but it's a challenging thing because

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<v Speaker 6>you know, as the from the coaching side, there's nothing

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 6>more important than your staff. And we have a great

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:19.640
<v Speaker 6>coaching staff. We've had great coaches come through. I'm gonna

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 6>be talking to Anthony Weaver and Mike McDonald later today. Uh,

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<v Speaker 6>and those guys are two of the great coaches that

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<v Speaker 6>kind of have helped us become what we are as

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<v Speaker 6>a program. So I'm excited about Chuck mcgonald. Chuck's been

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<v Speaker 6>there before, he's coming back. He's a great coach, he's

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 6>a great guy. He's he's uh, he started he helped

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<v Speaker 6>start it back in two thousand and eight, in twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, so love Chuck and I think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 6>bring a lot to the table. Then Donald Delacio is

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<v Speaker 6>a young guy who's got a lot of talent, and

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<v Speaker 6>Ty Santucci's gonna do a great job with the linebackers.

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<v Speaker 6>And Matt Peas really happy with all those guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh frendick chack.

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<v Speaker 4>Vs go. He's be gravitation was twenty er, you see him.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very sensive, tagular class and the fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Years.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it starts, Cliff, It starts there. You know, it

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<v Speaker 6>starts on the offensive defensive line. So we're gonna be

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 6>looking at both lines really hard. You look at every position.

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<v Speaker 6>It gets a deep running back classroom, I've been told to,

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<v Speaker 6>so we'll be looking at that position too. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>game wrecking defensive tackles kind of a big deal, you know,

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:27.680
<v Speaker 6>you know, past past pressuring defensive ends.

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<v Speaker 5>That's kind of a big deal too.

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<v Speaker 3>Checks down. If you guys had the largest projects down

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<v Speaker 3>with the team last year and at.

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<v Speaker 1>Least your thought process may be halved on a sail legs.

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<v Speaker 5>Flying Yeah, well we we our analysts are in that

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 5>in that list.

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<v Speaker 6>So just so you know, we have about the same

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:48.439
<v Speaker 6>number of guys on the field and coaches women coaches too.

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 6>On the field, we have the most women coaches in

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 6>the league, which I'm really proud of that. We've got

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 6>a very diverse coaching staff. I'm really proud of that.

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 6>And we have a great coaching staff most importantly, and

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:02.560
<v Speaker 6>that's the thing I'm most proud of. So many well

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 6>everybody's got them, everybody's got them, but they're just not

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:06.160
<v Speaker 6>listed under the coaching staff. We just we just give

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 6>them coaching staff credit. You know, I think the Browns

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 6>have twenty four people in their analytics department, so that

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<v Speaker 6>would make them the biggest coaching staff in the league.

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<v Speaker 4>John mentioned coaches gation, you guys have.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh the women's coach are Yeah, yeah, you guys conversation.

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 6>Our women coaches are doing a great job. They're coaching football. Uh,

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<v Speaker 6>they're they're they're contributing to our team. They're learning their

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 6>their younger coaches. Uh, in the weight room, on the

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 6>football side, through the administrative, through the analytic part of it.

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 5>Uh, we have we have some great young people coaching

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<v Speaker 5>for us. I'm excited about that. It's that me check you.

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's probably a better Eric quest I've I've I

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 6>personally watched the tackles and guards right now so far

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:12.479
<v Speaker 6>on offense.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I've gotten through. And I like a lot

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 5>of those guys, so that's what I can speak to.

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 4>Jim learned about himself in his first year back, and.

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 5>Jim learned about himself.

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, man, he's he seems like the same

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 5>gym to me.

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<v Speaker 6>I you know, I think maybe I think people people

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 6>maybe in uh, but the Chargers learned much how good

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:36.120
<v Speaker 6>he is, how much funny is to be around.

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 5>Every day. You're around him a lot, you know, and

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 5>he's he's he's Uh.

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 6>I was just talking to Joe Rties in the way

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 6>coming down the hallway here, and he said, we work

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 6>really hard and we have a lot of fun doing it,

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:46.959
<v Speaker 6>you know. And I think that's something that Jim has

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 6>always been about. He's he's fun to be around. He's

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 6>he's all he's all ball. If you like football, you know,

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 6>you like being you like being a Charger. And I

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 6>feel the same way about the Ravens kind of run

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 6>similar type programs.

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 5>And and uh, you know, it's kind of what it's

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 5>got a ship about. I say, some changes to play

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:14.640
<v Speaker 5>also the same years taking a step off. I'm talking

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 5>to you, colleague league and trying to express that.

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<v Speaker 4>Your viewpoint, man, I don't know how it goes from

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:23.199
<v Speaker 4>the idea.

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 5>That's a great question.

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.239
<v Speaker 6>I have been very involved in that, and you can

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 6>ask anybody that and they'll probably tell you that they

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 6>are they yeah, yeah, yeah. He's been a little bit

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 6>of a pain about that. But you know, the thing

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 6>I appreciate about the league is there's a great dialogue

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 6>with that and they do like Roger wants to hear

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 6>everybody's opinion and Troy wants to hear everybody's opinion. And

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 6>those guys are kind of at the top of the

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 6>food chain there and it kind of works from there

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 6>through the competition committee on.

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 5>So they're great.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, No, I haven't always gotten what I've suggested.

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 6>You know, I think most of the time that they

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 6>should be doing what I think is right. But the

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 6>coaches talk a lot too. And as far as replay,

0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.719
<v Speaker 6>you know, I'm I'm a I'm about I'm just as

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 6>much replays we can that makes sense, you know, some

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 6>things don't make sense and replay. But to me, the

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 6>idea at the end of the end of the deal

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 6>should be to get it right as much as we can,

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 6>and with technology that allows you more and more to

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 6>get it right through different avenues of replay.

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 4>When you have in your organization.

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<v Speaker 5>Got one vote right. Yeah, you guys ever have to

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 5>kind of come to an agree with.

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 3>You we do.

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 5>You know, Steve is the boss.

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 6>You know, Steve ultimately makes a call, but he listens

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 6>to all of us and then he it's not too

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 6>often we're like, he doesn't.

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 5>We all come to an agreement. I think one of

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 5>our philosophies is that we agree to agree.

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 6>You know, and you've got to come to the you know,

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 6>it might be it's either or a third option or

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 6>a fourth option or some you know, some way of

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 6>looking at that melds all the ideas together.

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 5>But we always try to agree to agree.

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Because of that. Also priding you take it.

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 4>And hid it developing.

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, thanks, Now, I do you take a lot of

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 6>pride in that, you know, you take a lot of

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 6>pride in the fact that your coaches are going off

0:29:57.720 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 6>and they're doing well, and you kind of see the

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 6>the personality of the teams that they coach or the

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 6>units they coach, and you feel like.

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 5>Man, that looks familiar to me, you know, and that's

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 5>something that you do.

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 6>You take a lot of pride in that, and especially

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 6>as you get older, you start feeling better and better

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 6>about that. So I love our guys, and you know,

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 6>I don't love playing against him all the time. That's

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 6>not so much fun. But you love what they're building.

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 4>Earlier.

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 5>And you've heard this question as you know, he's a

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 5>good the questions all after you.

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 4>Now, yeah, yea work with a free agency.

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 3>Would you become going to Roger in a.

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<v Speaker 6>Year or two on the web side, absolutely, Yeah, Yeah,

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 6>that'd be one of the options we could go to.

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 6>It would depend on the draft and different things like

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 6>that and free agency. You know, I think we'll probably

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 6>keep Ronnie, hopeful that we will, but if we don't,

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 6>we'll have an option and that would be one of

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 6>them for sure.

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, boy, he's got a great shot at that.

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 6>He looked really good at the end of the year

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 6>when he played and uh and there's other guys in

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 6>there too in.

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 5>That mix.

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 3>Rotation.

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was early in his career, and you know

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 6>it just someone came in there and played really well.

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, Pat went in there and played great,

0:30:57.560 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 6>and that was a better option. But Andrew was working

0:30:59.880 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 6>all all the way through and developing then all of

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 6>a sudden boom, he's back on the field. You guys

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 6>don't see the practices. But then he's back on the field,

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 6>and he played really well, you know, and that was

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 6>because of all the work between then and when he

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 6>got his opportunity.

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 5>To push.

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 6>Okay, well, to me, it's okay, you got to take

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 6>all those rules holistically. Okay, what effect is one rule

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 6>change having the next thing? So if you take out

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 6>the touch push, then you've got to take out all pushing. Okay,

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 6>So you can't. Guy can't be downfield and the offensive

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 6>lineman come running in and push the ball carrier five

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 6>more yards.

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 5>You can't take one out and not the other. They're

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 5>they're the same.

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 6>Just like you're not supposed to be able to grab

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 6>a running back and pull them into the end zone.

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 6>That hasn't been officiated. They've allowed that to happen. That's

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 6>already against the rules. How you can officiate that. So

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 6>if we want to say that you can't, like you

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 6>can't you can't help push it back, then you can't.

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 6>Then you can take out the touch push if you

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 6>if you're going to say that that's still allowed.

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 5>In my opinion, you can't take out the touch push.

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 5>So I'm good. I'm good with you. I'm okay with

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 5>the touch push. Yeah.

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 4>How employant is.

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 6>This offseason at the pass rusher and being able to

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 6>get home four or not having.

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 4>The center in the bodies in the way.

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we believe in both.

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 6>I think you want to be able to You want

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 6>to be able to get there with three, you know,

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 6>maybe make them hold a little longer. You want to

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 6>be able to get there with stimulated where you bring four,

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 6>but it's not the guy they expect to come and

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 6>make them hold the ball to coverage the guys. You

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 6>want to be able to get there with four rushers,

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 6>like some teams, the teams that have those guys, they

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 6>do a great job.

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 5>And we have those guys too, We've done that a lot.

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 6>You want to be able to get home with zone blitzes,

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 6>with man blitzeres, with all our blitzes, we like to

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 6>keep it moving, We like to keep people guessing. That's

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 6>kind of our format and for man rush, absolutely big

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 6>part of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Four minuts thous two thousand and two of ours, Aaron

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<v Speaker 4>was today humans play in.

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<v Speaker 3>The policy and definitely in your mind where if that

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 3>policy is a paid stuff.

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 6>That's that's to be determined. I think that's to be determined, right,

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 6>you know, that's something we got to find out. That's

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 6>what the reviews for it again, understanding of what we're

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 6>even talking about. You can't make a can't take an

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 6>act without understanding, right. You got to get the facts

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 6>and understand what happened as best you can, and then

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 6>you take the situation for what it is. But the

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 6>principle is the same. How do you define that principle

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.239
<v Speaker 6>that term a little bit? Maybe we will come out

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 6>and make a definition of that at some point in time.

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 6>You know, that's something that you know that would be

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 6>interesting to me. But I think everybody understands the idea there,

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 6>and let's see where the review takes us.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, absolutely not absolutely not. Okay, great, Thanks, all right.

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