1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Ravens Press Pass podcast. The twenty twenty 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: five NFL Scouting Combine is now in the books. The 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Ravens had a chance to take a look at the 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: incoming class of prospects and put in some work to 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: build out the draft board for the upcoming draft in April. 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Now during the week in Indianapolis, we had a chance 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: to hear from several of the Ravens executives, including GM 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Eric Costa. 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, We'll get started with questions. Thanks for coming man, 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: that's a that's a that's a deep question. I've been 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: blessed to be a part of an organization where we've 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: had three head coaches and two gms. I think that that, 13 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: you know, continuity is huge in decision making, having support 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: from ownership, putting processes, play systems, feeling good about the process, 15 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: knowing the other people in the room. 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: I think that's a big part of it. 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: I think shared experience, calling on historical things that have 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: happened in the past to help you make decisions. I 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: think factors in the biggest thing is really just having 20 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: an owner that believes in you and has put you 21 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: in place to succeed and believes you will succeed, and 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: I've been blessed to have Steepashaty in my life for 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: a long time. Here. Well, I think you're always you know, 24 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: every smart team is always looking for quarterbacks. It's a 25 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: quarterback league, and whether you're looking for a backup, a 26 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: practice squad quarterback, a starting quarterback, you know, it's it's 27 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: hard to win without one. We're blessed to have Lamar Jackson. 28 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: Before that, we were blessed to have Joe Flacco. You know, 29 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: living in a world without a quarterback is a tough 30 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: world to live in. 31 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: We understand that. 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: These guys drive the league, and so you know, it's 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: a tough position to be in. 34 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: But I think if you've got to write people and. 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: Trust the process, you can find one. Well, I think 36 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: a lot goes into that. First of all, a good question. 37 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: Appreciate the question. The allegations are serious, concerning the amount 38 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: of allegations are serious and concerning. I think we're fortunate 39 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: that the league is doing an investigation. We'll wait as 40 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: patiently as we can for as much information as we can, 41 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 2: and we'll make a decisions based on that. Well, I think, 42 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: like every position, we're going to evaluate rank the board. 43 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: We've been doing that for the last twenty nine years. 44 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: We're blessed to have a really good kickers coach and 45 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: Randy Brown, who does a phenomenal job evaluating punters and 46 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 2: kickers and long snappers for us every single season. We'll 47 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: meet with Randy throughout the process. Over the coming weeks, 48 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: he'll travel all over the country looking at these guys, 49 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: and we'll build the best board that we can give it. 50 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: Zero that. 51 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: Well, I think again, it's a good question. 52 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing that we have to do 53 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: first of all is look at every single case differently. 54 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: There are no absolutes, and I think in this case, 55 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: we're still a waiting as much information as possible. Again, 56 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: we're fortunate that the league is it's come down to Baltimore. 57 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: I met with the league. 58 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: I believe the league is meeting with other people in 59 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: Baltimore as well. We'll wait for the details of that 60 00:03:48,520 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: investigation and we'll make a decision based on that. I 61 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: really can't because again, we look at every case differently, 62 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: and the facts in every single case. 63 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: We do this for a living. 64 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: We study players, we look at background, we consider all 65 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: these different things. Every case is entirely different, different facts, 66 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: different situations. So we'll wait for the investigation to take 67 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: place and we'll make a decision based off of that. 68 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: Right. 69 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: So, we were aware that local media outlet was getting 70 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: prepared to do a story on Justin Tucker, and that 71 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: was the first time that we became aware of those allegations, 72 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: of the potential allegations. 73 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: That might result. 74 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 5: Right. 75 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: So, I think, you know, I've answered what four questions 76 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: on this situation. I did meet with Justin. I'm gonna 77 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: keep those comments to myself and personal conversations with Justin. 78 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: I think is probably the smart thing to do. But 79 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: at that point, we did, you know, meet, and that's 80 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna say about that. 81 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: Don't know, I have no idea. 82 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a good, you know, a pretty 83 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: good class draft wise, free agency wise as well. 84 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: I think we do a really good job. 85 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: I'm very happy to see the development that our young 86 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: receivers have made the last couple of years. Greg Lewis 87 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: does a great job coaching those guys up. Our players 88 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: really did a good job this year. I feel like 89 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: there's a good opportunity for us to find some good talent, 90 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: either through free agency or the draft. 91 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: Uh, in every round, uh and every. 92 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: Price point and uh, and you know, I think the 93 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: other point is that we've got some really good tight 94 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: ends as well. And I think this year we really 95 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: he did see kind of our vision for the offense 96 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: come together with playmakers across the board, whether it's running back, receiver, 97 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: tight end, backup running back, back up receivers, backup tight ends. 98 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: I think, Uh, it was kind of what we've hoped 99 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: for the last couple of years, and we had a 100 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: chance to see that come to fruition. Well, Ronnie and 101 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 2: I did a deal the last time, so that's great. 102 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: Uh. He and I have a good friendship. We've known 103 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: each other for a long time. 104 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: He's got a great agent in Kim Miale. You know, 105 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: you know, never want to say one hundred percent, but 106 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: I feel good that we'll have a good, healthy debate, 107 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: a good process. We're going to meet with Kim in 108 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: Indy this week, and Uh, I'm optimistic that we'll be 109 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: able to get a deal done. Well, that's a coaching question. 110 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen you know, we think Roger had 111 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: a great year last year. He's a very good athlete. 112 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: He's way mature than a typical young player. I think 113 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: he proved that this year with how he played and 114 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: competed the week in week out, whether it was on 115 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: field performance against good players coming back from injuries and 116 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: things like that. So he's definitely a factor on the 117 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: left side if need be. I think we'll try to 118 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: find the best five guys we can. I think there 119 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: were a lot of questions about the offensive line last year, 120 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: and I think we did a pretty good job of 121 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: putting a pretty competitive offensive line together on the field 122 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: last year, and I would expect the same to be 123 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: whole true this year. Yeah, I mean, I think Cliff 124 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: it really just comes down to the best player at 125 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: the time, and we're always gonna say that. I mean, 126 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: it's something that we've said every single year, he's starting 127 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: back to nineteen ninety six with Ozzie as the GM. 128 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna draft best available players. So I think if 129 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: we're picking at you know, twenty seven, and there's an 130 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: edge rusher and he's the best guy, we're probably gonna 131 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: pick him and it's gonna hold through with every round. 132 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: I think it's an important position. I think we were 133 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: maybe second in the league in sacks last year, but 134 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 2: having a continuous influx of young pass rush talent, guys 135 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: that can set the edge and play the run, guys 136 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: that play like Ravens, physical players who can. 137 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: Get to the quarterback. I think that's a priority for 138 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: us for sure. 139 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, I mean, Derek is just a phenomenal worker. 140 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 2: He's a pro, does everything the right way, the way 141 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: that he practices, the way that he takes care of 142 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: his body, his mentality on the field, his leadership, his talent. 143 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he's freakishly talented. I mean his combination of 144 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: size and speed. So he was just the perfect player 145 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: for us. I think last year the right addition, and 146 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: he brought a lot to the table on the field 147 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: and also off the field with intangible qualities. We're blessed 148 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: to have him, and I would expect his successes last 149 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: year to continue this year. 150 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 3: You know, it's a tough question. 151 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: I mean it's you know, running backs are kind of 152 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: like the stock market. They've been up. When I was 153 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: a kid, running back was was was arguably the most 154 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: important position on the field. You know, I grew up 155 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: a Cowboys fan, and you know, Tony dors said, Emmitt Smith, 156 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: guys like that were my idols. And then we went 157 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: through this period of the last what five ten years, 158 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: the analytics emphasis sort of de emphasized the position. And 159 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: I think last year you saw the impact that some 160 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 2: of these guys had. And you know, Howie Roseman a 161 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: great GM went out and got Saquon and they won 162 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. And you know a lot of credit 163 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: to Howie, and but I think you know, these are 164 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: guys that touched the ball. These are guys that impact games. 165 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: I think they're looked at is probably replaceable by some people, 166 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: but if you've got a great one, if you've got 167 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: a historic one, you can't replace those guys. They impact 168 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: the game in many different ways and they create nightmares 169 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 2: for defenses. Well, I think that you always want to 170 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: be strong, you know, through your middle, and something that 171 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: I think we've prioritized with Kyle as a safety, Rokwan, 172 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: our defensive tackles, Travers, Nmd, Linderbaum, Lamar, all those guys. 173 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I believe in that as well being strong 174 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 2: up the middle. It's always going to be an allocation 175 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: of resources and where you spend your money every year. 176 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: There's different schools of thought, but you've got to be physical. 177 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: We've always prided ourselves on being a physical football team 178 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 2: that can stop to run, run the ball, protect the quarterback, 179 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 2: rush the passer, and win games in the fourth quarter. 180 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: I think this draft class is pretty strong, you know. 181 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: I think you've got on the defensive line, You've got 182 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: some guys, some defensive ends that when we say defensive end, 183 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: we mean outside linebackers. So that's you might hear me 184 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: reference outside linebackers. Other clubs might calm defensive ends. But 185 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: I think you've got some defensive tackles that are fine prospects. 186 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: And then on the interior, we see a number of 187 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: guards that could get picked in the first and second 188 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: round and probably provide early value and start right away 189 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: for their drafting clubs like to do. 190 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: Well. I see Michelle over here. 191 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 2: She helps Deck rate my office wall, and I think 192 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: we have a picture of Derek going up on my wall. 193 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: So what does that tell you? Lamar's got a great voice, 194 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: and uh, he's a student of the game. He watches players, 195 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 2: he knows talent. Now we do does love the Miami 196 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: guys and the Florida guys, but listen, Lamar has a 197 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: he's a stakeholder, he's a partner. He's earned that right 198 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: to be to have that type of input and opinion, 199 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: and a lot of guys haven't earned that right, but 200 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: Lamar has earned that right. It's important, it's necessary, and 201 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: I welcome his input and I'll get texts from him. 202 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: And there have been some years where I've gone down 203 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: and visited visited with him and probably do to do 204 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: to do that again, to take a trip down to 205 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: Florida and spend some time with him. But he's got 206 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: a great command of the offense. He made great strides 207 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: this year in every fact. You know, he's my MVP, 208 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: and uh, I think his impact on our team is 209 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: is impossible to measure. 210 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 3: I don't know how to answer that. I mean, you know, 211 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 3: I mean Lamar is Lamar. 212 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: He's a two time MVP, in my opinion, should have 213 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: been a three time MVP, so different status. 214 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: So that's what I would say. 215 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: I think you have to earn those kind of rights. 216 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 3: Uh. 217 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: I mean, upside is how good can this guy be? 218 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: Position need is like we need a player to play 219 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: right away my opinion. You know, with positional need, it 220 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: sounds great at the time you draft the player, you 221 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: pencil him in, but if he doesn't have the ability 222 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: to play at a high level. Then typically you're gonna 223 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: be disappointed, your fans are gonna be disappointed. 224 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: You're gonna look at. 225 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: As a as A as a bad pick. So you 226 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: want the best player in any given situation. You need 227 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: to change day to day. I mean, We've been in situations. 228 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: I've been on teams where I felt like we had 229 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: great depth at corner, great depth at tight end. In 230 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: the matter of a couple of weeks, we had no depth. 231 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: I go back to the year that in a matter 232 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: of a couple of weeks we lost you know, JK 233 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: Gus Edwards and Justice and had no running backs. Literally 234 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: a Friday afternoon calling agents, trying to find somebody to 235 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: come to Baltimore. And fortunately we're able to get a 236 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: couple of guys that came in and really saved us 237 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: that year in many different ways. 238 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 3: And so, you know, need changes. But you win with talent, 239 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: you win with players. 240 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: And I always, if I have my choice, I'm always 241 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: going with upside and I'm always going with talent. What 242 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: was that, I mean, you guys know the Ravens. I mean, 243 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: you know, right player at the right price. You know, 244 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: we don't have a lot of cap room we have 245 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: Nick Mattio working tirelessly to find some space for us. 246 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: We call it couch cushion coins. You know, like we're 247 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: just we're trying to find fifty grand here, seventy five 248 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: grand there in a couch cushion. But you know, not 249 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: a team that's gonna make a lot of big splashes 250 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: generally speaking, I mean, we're probably gonna have eleven draft 251 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: picks this year. My goal would be to hit on 252 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: a large percentage of those draft picks, to find good, young, 253 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: inexpensive talent to put guys in for the future, because 254 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: the reality of it is, when you're paying guys like 255 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and the Marlon Humphreys and the Namdi Mattabeks 256 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: and the Rokwan Smiths and guys like that, and the 257 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: guys like someday probably Tyler Linderbaum and guys like Kyle Hamilton, 258 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: you've got a draft well every single year so that 259 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: you always have an open window. It gives us a 260 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: little bit more, but when you're starting with as few 261 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: dollars as we have, it's it's a savior, but we 262 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: still would like to have more money, and then we're 263 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: a victim of our own success. In some ways because 264 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: you know, when you guys, remember when when I did 265 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: become GM, one of my main priorities was to retain 266 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: as much of our own homegrown talent as possible. And 267 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: we have a lot of homegrown talent, which is a 268 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: good problem to have, but it also means that we 269 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: don't have as much money to go out and go 270 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: after players that are on homegrown talent. So any addition 271 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: of money we can get is very helpful. It still 272 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that we're going to break the bank and 273 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: free agency. We're still going to be going after those 274 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: Vetri minimum guys, which you know, Joy's Cokeyness and Mark 275 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: Asseveda do a great job finding those type of players. 276 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: We're still going to be trying to find the guys 277 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: that we can get that we think are good value, 278 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: that may be come to us and play better than 279 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: what we expected. And we have a lot of those guys, 280 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: right And you know those guys that come in and 281 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: you're like, man, this guy's really good. I can't believe 282 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: the Raven's got this guy for a million and a 283 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: half dollars. Those guys are critical for us to sustain 284 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: the success that we've had because the reality is we 285 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: just can't go out and spend two hundred million dollars 286 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: then offseason on players like some teams do. 287 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: We're just not gonna be able to do that. 288 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 5: Obviously. 289 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 2: Comp Yeah, I mean, I think Mark is a great player. 290 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: We're blessed to have three really good tight ends under 291 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: contract this year. 292 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 3: They all contributed in different ways. 293 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: Their chemistry, their camaraderie, their impact on the offense, the 294 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: relationship with the other skill guys is great. I mean, 295 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 2: Mark's gonna go down as one of our great players. 296 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 2: He'll be in the Ring of Honors someday. I love 297 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: having Mark on the team. He's an awesome player. I 298 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: know he's gonna have an amazing season. 299 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: Uh. 300 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 2: We'll figure out all the roster machinations over the coming weeks, 301 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: but I can tell you there's no bigger fan of 302 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 2: Mark Andrews than me. 303 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 3: And Uh. He's been a blessing to have on the team. 304 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: His leadership, the way he approaches the game, his attention 305 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: to detail. 306 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: He's just one of those guys. Thank you, guys. 307 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: We also heard from head coach John Harbaugh. 308 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 6: All right, good seeing everybody appreciate you all being here 309 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 6: for us. 310 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 5: What you got you focused on high school age students. 311 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: What draws you in a high school experience and what 312 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: makes it special? 313 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 6: That's the best question that we're going to have all 314 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 6: day to day. The best the high school experience. We're 315 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 6: doing something we all came through high school. We all 316 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 6: understand how formative that is, right, and the high school experience, 317 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 6: whether it's uh sports, football or basketball, or band or 318 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 6: theater or clubs or whatever, make a huge difference in 319 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 6: young lives, right, you know that? And the impact that 320 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 6: you have is a coach in any of those areas, 321 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 6: just like a teacher, can be life transformational. It can 322 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 6: be transformational for amazing things. It can be transformational for 323 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 6: not so good things or bad things too. And the 324 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 6: idea that that we want to help coaches in every 325 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 6: way we can to be the best they can be 326 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 6: for the young people that they're responsible for because they 327 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 6: took on that job of coaching them is something that's 328 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 6: really important to all of it. It should be important to 329 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 6: all of us. It's important to the Hardball Coaching Academy 330 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 6: to us, and we want to help out where we 331 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 6: can high schools. To take one piece of advice I 332 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 6: got from my high school coach. We had a coach 333 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 6: that his name was Pete Palmer. He was called push 334 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 6: up Pete. And if you did, he was my baseball coach. 335 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 6: And if you didn't run out of ground ball or 336 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 6: a fly ball, you got to run around the football stadium, 337 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 6: which is about a half a mile. You know, baseball 338 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 6: players don't like running too much sometimes, so hustle, you know, hustle. 339 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 6: That's probably the best advice I got early on. The 340 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 6: hustle serves you well in life. 341 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 5: Thanks. 342 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 4: You know, NFL investigators on going earlier here when out 343 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 4: and a little the allegation serious and it's certain has 344 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 4: had does that sort of some up your reaction to. 345 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: Oh? 346 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 6: Absolutely, Uh, you know it's uh, it's not what you 347 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 6: want to wake up and read. You know, you don't 348 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 6: want to read about it. It's not something you want 349 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 6: to see. I don't care what it is in terms of, 350 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 6: you know, things that are are hurtful and harmful to people. 351 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 6: There's too many headlines like that, too many stories that 352 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 6: you hear that just make you just just sad, you know, 353 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 6: and disappointed. And you don't want to ever see a 354 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 6: circumstance of situation, especially as if it relates to you know, 355 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 6: your world where you know, anybody's made to feel less 356 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 6: than great when they come and are involved in a 357 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 6: work experience somewhere, you know, and as it touches all 358 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 6: of us in our lives, we want to do everything 359 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 6: we can to make sure that this is just the 360 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 6: opposite that everybody feels like they have a great work experience. 361 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 6: You guys have been in our place every day and 362 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 6: you know, you know what we try to do with that. 363 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 6: So that's just really a tough deal. And the NFL 364 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 6: is looking into it. Uh, they're gonna come up, but 365 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 6: they're gonna review it. They're gonna try to gather all 366 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 6: the facts and hopefully we'll have a I'm sure we'll 367 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 6: have an understanding of it at that time. And then 368 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 6: once there's an understanding of it, then you have a 369 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 6: chance to you know, uh make some decisions and determinations 370 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 6: and things like that. 371 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 5: And that's where we're at right now. 372 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 4: That's what you can fail. 373 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 6: First point of the yeah, and that's that's what we're 374 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 6: waiting to try to do, is reconcile it. 375 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 5: You know. It's uh, it's uh, that's what the process 376 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 5: is for. You know. 377 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 6: That's why you've got to You've got to come to 378 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 6: an understanding if you can, about what happened. You know, 379 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 6: we've all got questions, but nobody knows exactly what happened. 380 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 5: So let's see where the review takes us. 381 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 4: When did you first learn deplication? And second when you're 382 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 4: that confers. 383 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 6: Sitting there, Chelsea, Yeah, I learned after Eric told me. 384 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 6: I think right before it came out. Maybe the banner 385 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 6: had called Eric and told him that there was something 386 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 6: coming out. We didn't know anything about what it was 387 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 6: gonna be, so I knew what it was when I 388 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 6: read it, and then, uh, I don't know. 389 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 5: A week and a half. 390 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 6: Two weeks after that, I gave Justin a call on 391 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 6: a Sunday morning and we had a conversation about it 392 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 6: and talked about it more about you know, just more 393 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 6: from a perspective of being together for all these years. 394 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 6: You know kind of what he was going through and 395 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 6: you know what he was dealing with with that and 396 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 6: kind of how he was handled with his family and 397 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 6: things like that, and that was really what we talked about. 398 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 5: Can you say it again? 399 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 4: Assuation likes frien. 400 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 5: Sa year great question. 401 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 6: When it rises to a national level, how do you 402 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 6: approach it Really it's not so much about like what 403 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 6: level national or what level of attention something gets. It's 404 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 6: the fact that it's so important to somebody in our program. 405 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 6: I mean, to me, it's like people walk in the 406 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 6: door in this job, you know, kind of you know, 407 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 6: god appointment sometimes we call it, but things come up 408 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 6: all the time. You could be dug deep in the 409 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 6: middle of some football related task and someone walks in 410 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 6: your door with something that's number one important to them 411 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 6: and they're talking to you know, the boss, so to speaker, 412 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 6: the head or whatever, and they just they need your 413 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 6: time and they need your attention. 414 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 5: So to me, it's exactly the same as any one 415 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 5: of those conversations that you'd. 416 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 3: Have lost drafts going on. 417 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, well sure it's uh, you know, every position isupport 418 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 6: and we're gonnaok at every single position, but certainly different 419 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 6: years you look at different positions. Uh we we we're 420 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 6: looking at kickers. I mean, we're looking at a lot 421 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 6: of positions. We're looking at every position. But I'd say 422 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 6: the kicker position would have been a priority no matter what, 423 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 6: because you know, our Justin's our kicker. 424 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 5: We love him and I expect him. 425 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 6: Would have you know always expected him to keep keep 426 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 6: going forever, but nobody goes forever. So we've got to 427 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 6: look at every position like we do, not what you 428 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 6: all the big picture of the coaching changes. Yeah, that's 429 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 6: the thing that we found in the last three, four 430 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 6: or five years, we've had a lot of coaching changes, 431 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 6: and uh, different reasons for different coaching changes. Guys have 432 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 6: gotten opportunities. We've had a lot of success, and uh 433 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 6: that's a good thing, but it's a challenging thing because 434 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 6: you know, as the from the coaching side, there's nothing 435 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 6: more important than your staff. And we have a great 436 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 6: coaching staff. We've had great coaches come through. I'm gonna 437 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 6: be talking to Anthony Weaver and Mike McDonald later today. Uh, 438 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 6: and those guys are two of the great coaches that 439 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 6: kind of have helped us become what we are as 440 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 6: a program. So I'm excited about Chuck mcgonald. Chuck's been 441 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 6: there before, he's coming back. He's a great coach, he's 442 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 6: a great guy. He's he's uh, he started he helped 443 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 6: start it back in two thousand and eight, in twenty eleven, 444 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 6: you know, so love Chuck and I think he's gonna 445 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 6: bring a lot to the table. Then Donald Delacio is 446 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 6: a young guy who's got a lot of talent, and 447 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 6: Ty Santucci's gonna do a great job with the linebackers. 448 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 6: And Matt Peas really happy with all those guys. 449 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 5: Uh frendick chack. 450 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 4: Vs go. He's be gravitation was twenty er, you see him. 451 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 4: It's very sensive, tagular class and the fine. 452 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: Years. 453 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, it starts, Cliff, It starts there. You know, it 454 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 6: starts on the offensive defensive line. So we're gonna be 455 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 6: looking at both lines really hard. You look at every position. 456 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 6: It gets a deep running back classroom, I've been told to, 457 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 6: so we'll be looking at that position too. But yeah, 458 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 6: game wrecking defensive tackles kind of a big deal, you know, 459 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 6: you know, past past pressuring defensive ends. 460 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 5: That's kind of a big deal too. 461 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 3: Checks down. If you guys had the largest projects down 462 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: with the team last year and at. 463 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: Least your thought process may be halved on a sail legs. 464 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 5: Flying Yeah, well we we our analysts are in that 465 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 5: in that list. 466 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 6: So just so you know, we have about the same 467 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 6: number of guys on the field and coaches women coaches too. 468 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 6: On the field, we have the most women coaches in 469 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 6: the league, which I'm really proud of that. We've got 470 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 6: a very diverse coaching staff. I'm really proud of that. 471 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 6: And we have a great coaching staff most importantly, and 472 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 6: that's the thing I'm most proud of. So many well 473 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 6: everybody's got them, everybody's got them, but they're just not 474 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 6: listed under the coaching staff. We just we just give 475 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 6: them coaching staff credit. You know, I think the Browns 476 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 6: have twenty four people in their analytics department, so that 477 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 6: would make them the biggest coaching staff in the league. 478 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 4: John mentioned coaches gation, you guys have. 479 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 6: Oh the women's coach are Yeah, yeah, you guys conversation. 480 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 6: Our women coaches are doing a great job. They're coaching football. Uh, 481 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 6: they're they're they're contributing to our team. They're learning their 482 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 6: their younger coaches. Uh, in the weight room, on the 483 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: football side, through the administrative, through the analytic part of it. 484 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 5: Uh, we have we have some great young people coaching 485 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 5: for us. I'm excited about that. It's that me check you. 486 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's probably a better Eric quest I've I've I 487 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 6: personally watched the tackles and guards right now so far 488 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 6: on offense. 489 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 5: That's what I've gotten through. And I like a lot 490 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 5: of those guys, so that's what I can speak to. 491 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: Jim learned about himself in his first year back, and. 492 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 5: Jim learned about himself. 493 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: Uh. 494 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, he's he seems like the same 495 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 5: gym to me. 496 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 6: I you know, I think maybe I think people people 497 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 6: maybe in uh, but the Chargers learned much how good 498 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 6: he is, how much funny is to be around. 499 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 5: Every day. You're around him a lot, you know, and 500 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 5: he's he's he's Uh. 501 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 6: I was just talking to Joe Rties in the way 502 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 6: coming down the hallway here, and he said, we work 503 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 6: really hard and we have a lot of fun doing it, 504 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 6: you know. And I think that's something that Jim has 505 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 6: always been about. He's he's fun to be around. He's 506 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 6: he's all he's all ball. If you like football, you know, 507 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 6: you like being you like being a Charger. And I 508 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 6: feel the same way about the Ravens kind of run 509 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 6: similar type programs. 510 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 5: And and uh, you know, it's kind of what it's 511 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 5: got a ship about. I say, some changes to play 512 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 5: also the same years taking a step off. I'm talking 513 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 5: to you, colleague league and trying to express that. 514 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 4: Your viewpoint, man, I don't know how it goes from 515 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 4: the idea. 516 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 5: That's a great question. 517 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 6: I have been very involved in that, and you can 518 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 6: ask anybody that and they'll probably tell you that they 519 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 6: are they yeah, yeah, yeah. He's been a little bit 520 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 6: of a pain about that. But you know, the thing 521 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 6: I appreciate about the league is there's a great dialogue 522 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 6: with that and they do like Roger wants to hear 523 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 6: everybody's opinion and Troy wants to hear everybody's opinion. And 524 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 6: those guys are kind of at the top of the 525 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 6: food chain there and it kind of works from there 526 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 6: through the competition committee on. 527 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 5: So they're great. 528 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 6: You know, No, I haven't always gotten what I've suggested. 529 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 6: You know, I think most of the time that they 530 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 6: should be doing what I think is right. But the 531 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 6: coaches talk a lot too. And as far as replay, 532 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 6: you know, I'm I'm a I'm about I'm just as 533 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 6: much replays we can that makes sense, you know, some 534 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 6: things don't make sense and replay. But to me, the 535 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 6: idea at the end of the end of the deal 536 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 6: should be to get it right as much as we can, 537 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 6: and with technology that allows you more and more to 538 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 6: get it right through different avenues of replay. 539 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 4: When you have in your organization. 540 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 5: Got one vote right. Yeah, you guys ever have to 541 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 5: kind of come to an agree with. 542 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: You we do. 543 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 5: You know, Steve is the boss. 544 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 6: You know, Steve ultimately makes a call, but he listens 545 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 6: to all of us and then he it's not too 546 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 6: often we're like, he doesn't. 547 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 5: We all come to an agreement. I think one of 548 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 5: our philosophies is that we agree to agree. 549 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 6: You know, and you've got to come to the you know, 550 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 6: it might be it's either or a third option or 551 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 6: a fourth option or some you know, some way of 552 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 6: looking at that melds all the ideas together. 553 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 5: But we always try to agree to agree. 554 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: Because of that. Also priding you take it. 555 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: And hid it developing. 556 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks, Now, I do you take a lot of 557 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 6: pride in that, you know, you take a lot of 558 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 6: pride in the fact that your coaches are going off 559 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 6: and they're doing well, and you kind of see the 560 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 6: the personality of the teams that they coach or the 561 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 6: units they coach, and you feel like. 562 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 5: Man, that looks familiar to me, you know, and that's 563 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 5: something that you do. 564 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 6: You take a lot of pride in that, and especially 565 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 6: as you get older, you start feeling better and better 566 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 6: about that. So I love our guys, and you know, 567 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 6: I don't love playing against him all the time. That's 568 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 6: not so much fun. But you love what they're building. 569 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 4: Earlier. 570 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 5: And you've heard this question as you know, he's a 571 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 5: good the questions all after you. 572 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, yea work with a free agency. 573 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: Would you become going to Roger in a. 574 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 6: Year or two on the web side, absolutely, Yeah, Yeah, 575 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 6: that'd be one of the options we could go to. 576 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 6: It would depend on the draft and different things like 577 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 6: that and free agency. You know, I think we'll probably 578 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 6: keep Ronnie, hopeful that we will, but if we don't, 579 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 6: we'll have an option and that would be one of 580 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 6: them for sure. 581 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, boy, he's got a great shot at that. 582 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 6: He looked really good at the end of the year 583 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 6: when he played and uh and there's other guys in 584 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 6: there too in. 585 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 5: That mix. 586 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: Rotation. 587 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was early in his career, and you know 588 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 6: it just someone came in there and played really well. 589 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, Pat went in there and played great, 590 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 6: and that was a better option. But Andrew was working 591 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 6: all all the way through and developing then all of 592 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 6: a sudden boom, he's back on the field. You guys 593 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 6: don't see the practices. But then he's back on the field, 594 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 6: and he played really well, you know, and that was 595 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 6: because of all the work between then and when he 596 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 6: got his opportunity. 597 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 5: To push. 598 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 6: Okay, well, to me, it's okay, you got to take 599 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 6: all those rules holistically. Okay, what effect is one rule 600 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 6: change having the next thing? So if you take out 601 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 6: the touch push, then you've got to take out all pushing. Okay, 602 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 6: So you can't. Guy can't be downfield and the offensive 603 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 6: lineman come running in and push the ball carrier five 604 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 6: more yards. 605 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 5: You can't take one out and not the other. They're 606 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 5: they're the same. 607 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 6: Just like you're not supposed to be able to grab 608 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 6: a running back and pull them into the end zone. 609 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 6: That hasn't been officiated. They've allowed that to happen. That's 610 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 6: already against the rules. How you can officiate that. So 611 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 6: if we want to say that you can't, like you 612 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 6: can't you can't help push it back, then you can't. 613 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 6: Then you can take out the touch push if you 614 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 6: if you're going to say that that's still allowed. 615 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 5: In my opinion, you can't take out the touch push. 616 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 5: So I'm good. I'm good with you. I'm okay with 617 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 5: the touch push. Yeah. 618 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 4: How employant is. 619 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 6: This offseason at the pass rusher and being able to 620 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 6: get home four or not having. 621 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 4: The center in the bodies in the way. 622 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, we believe in both. 623 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 6: I think you want to be able to You want 624 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 6: to be able to get there with three, you know, 625 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 6: maybe make them hold a little longer. You want to 626 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 6: be able to get there with stimulated where you bring four, 627 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 6: but it's not the guy they expect to come and 628 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 6: make them hold the ball to coverage the guys. You 629 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 6: want to be able to get there with four rushers, 630 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 6: like some teams, the teams that have those guys, they 631 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 6: do a great job. 632 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 5: And we have those guys too, We've done that a lot. 633 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 6: You want to be able to get home with zone blitzes, 634 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 6: with man blitzeres, with all our blitzes, we like to 635 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 6: keep it moving, We like to keep people guessing. That's 636 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 6: kind of our format and for man rush, absolutely big 637 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 6: part of that. 638 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 4: Four minuts thous two thousand and two of ours, Aaron 639 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 4: was today humans play in. 640 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 3: The policy and definitely in your mind where if that 641 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 3: policy is a paid stuff. 642 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 6: That's that's to be determined. I think that's to be determined, right, 643 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 6: you know, that's something we got to find out. That's 644 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 6: what the reviews for it again, understanding of what we're 645 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 6: even talking about. You can't make a can't take an 646 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 6: act without understanding, right. You got to get the facts 647 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 6: and understand what happened as best you can, and then 648 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 6: you take the situation for what it is. But the 649 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 6: principle is the same. How do you define that principle 650 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,239 Speaker 6: that term a little bit? Maybe we will come out 651 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 6: and make a definition of that at some point in time. 652 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 6: You know, that's something that you know that would be 653 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 6: interesting to me. But I think everybody understands the idea there, 654 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 6: and let's see where the review takes us. 655 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 5: No, no, absolutely not absolutely not. 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