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Speaker 1: I know there's been some talk about the fourth down rules,
Speaker 1: the on site kick revisions, of of trying to think
Speaker 1: of new, potentially fun ways to to give teams more
Speaker 1: of an advantage there. So I want to hear your
Speaker 1: thoughts on some of these proposed changes and what you
Speaker 1: think they could mean. Well, I kind of like the
Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen on site kick alternative. It's something that
Speaker 1: has been kicked around in the media and you know,
Speaker 1: behind the scenes for a couple of years now, um,
Speaker 1: and it looks like there might be on the verge
Speaker 1: of put that into play. Uh. You know, the basic
Speaker 1: idea is that made a bunch of changes to how
Speaker 1: you kick off, which has in turn made it very
Speaker 1: very difficult for an on site kick to work. It
Speaker 1: used to be about sixteen percent success rate and now
Speaker 1: it's about four or five percent. And all those changes
Speaker 1: were made for safety reasons. So you really don't want
Speaker 1: to go You don't want to backtrack on any of
Speaker 1: those rules. I don't think anytime the NFL ever implements
Speaker 1: anything aimed at player safety does it ever go back
Speaker 1: from that um So you have to come up with
Speaker 1: another way. If you look at the numbers of third
Speaker 1: and fourth down and fifteen to go, uh, it's about sixteen.
Speaker 1: So it's pretty much right on the money, and you
Speaker 1: do that from your own twenty five. So if you
Speaker 1: don't convert it, then obviously it's the same penalty as
Speaker 1: an onsite kick, although maybe a little bit worse, and
Speaker 1: that you're giving the other team really good field position.
Speaker 1: But you know, you can only have so much sympathy
Speaker 1: for a team that's a couple scores down and is
Speaker 1: looking for a way to get back into the game.
Speaker 1: You know, they should have to keep everybody interested. There
Speaker 1: should be a way, but it shouldn't be that easy.
Speaker 1: The team that built that big lead, you know, just
Speaker 1: serves that big lead. And so I think it's a
Speaker 1: good compromise. And you know, from a personal standard point,
Speaker 1: I guess from a Buck standpoint, I think the Bucks
Speaker 1: would be in pretty good position one of the better
Speaker 1: teams to take advantage of this rule. Hopefully won't be
Speaker 1: down by two scores very often, but if you are,
Speaker 1: I mean, the Buccaneers led the NFL in past plays
Speaker 1: of twenty or more yards last year. So if you
Speaker 1: have an offense with guys like Mike Evans who can
Speaker 1: make those plays down to feel I mean, think of
Speaker 1: a great fourth and fifteen or third and fifteen play,
Speaker 1: a back shoulder sideline fade to Mike Evans, I mean,
Speaker 1: he runs that play perfection, and now you got Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: you can probably put it right on the money. So
Speaker 1: you know, I like the idea, and I also think
Speaker 1: that the Buccaneers would be in good shape to take
Speaker 1: of it. Okay, and uh, I know that we've also
Speaker 1: we've talked so much about the offense this offseason for
Speaker 1: for very understandable reasons. But the last couple of weeks
Speaker 1: we've got a chance to have media availabilities. They don't
Speaker 1: look like they used to their over zoom. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: normally we'd be having things like O T A S
Speaker 1: and Recommennicamp and stuff like that. It's time of year
Speaker 1: and you just get a chance to hear from a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys as they come off the field. Are
Speaker 1: some of the guys taking the podium. But they've had
Speaker 1: um a few players doing Zoom media availabilities and uh
Speaker 1: in recent weeks it's been Sean Murphy, Bunting and Devin White,
Speaker 1: and of course they're kind of saying, hey, don't don't
Speaker 1: forget about us defensive guys. You know we we were
Speaker 1: pretty good at this football thing too, So I want
Speaker 1: to hear what are some the things that you got
Speaker 1: out of those media availabilities and their attitudes and just
Speaker 1: their optimism about the defensive side of things this year. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the one thing we should point out about
Speaker 1: that is the Bucks have started doing that pretty regularly
Speaker 1: at least once a week, and this week there's gonna
Speaker 1: be two of them. And you know, a fan can't
Speaker 1: get into the Zoom meeting in order to ask questions,
Speaker 1: but you can watched the stream live on buccaneers dot com.
Speaker 1: And Todd Bowles is going today too, I believe, and
Speaker 1: then Alan Mark pet tomorrow at one thirty I might
Speaker 1: have those two times backwards. I can't remember today's one
Speaker 1: thirty tomorrows too, But anyway, come around one thirty or
Speaker 1: so two Buccaneers dot com and you can watch Todd
Speaker 1: Boles today and el Mar pet tomorrow. But I think
Speaker 1: what you were alluding to is both John Murphy Bunting
Speaker 1: and Devin White, who were both very good rookie defenders
Speaker 1: last year and are probably gonna be cornerstones for this
Speaker 1: defense a long time. Both of them made comments along
Speaker 1: lines of, hey, we want to be the side, the
Speaker 1: unit the defense that sometimes puts his team on its
Speaker 1: back and carries. And everybody knows we have Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and all these great offensive stars, but last year the
Speaker 1: Bucks defense really came on in the second half is
Speaker 1: what was one of the better ones in the league.
Speaker 1: And they're confident they're gonna be even better this year.
Speaker 1: So it's just good to have those young, outspoken, very
Speaker 1: confident leaders on defense who want to say, hey, this
Speaker 1: isn't all just about that star studared offense. We plan
Speaker 1: to be the reason that the Buccaneers are winning games.
Speaker 1: And I mean, if this defense does play like it
Speaker 1: was at the end of last year or even better.
Speaker 1: Bucks sure seemed like they'll be hard to beat. I
Speaker 1: completely agree. And speaking of the defensive side, Jeffrey wanted
Speaker 1: to know, do you see Shack having double digit sacks
Speaker 1: again this year? Yeah, I think you can get to
Speaker 1: double digits. You know, I wouldn't be the first to
Speaker 1: say it. And there's no reason to expect Shack to
Speaker 1: get anything and to have sacks before. I mean, in
Speaker 1: the first forty three years of Buck's history, the highest
Speaker 1: anybody ever had with sixteen and a half, and that
Speaker 1: was by a Hall of famer warr And SAPs. So
Speaker 1: you know, Shack's nineteen and a half to lead the
Speaker 1: league last year was incredible and um and well, you know,
Speaker 1: every part of it was earned. I'm not saying anything
Speaker 1: like that, but sacks, like interceptions, can be a fickle
Speaker 1: stat sometimes you I think Shack could be easily be
Speaker 1: just as effect of rushing the password this year, and
Speaker 1: and you know, he had seventy eight I think combined pressures,
Speaker 1: hurries and sacks, and that's a ton. It was like
Speaker 1: third highest somewhere near the highest of the league. And
Speaker 1: and he could do that again, but not get near
Speaker 1: nineteen sacks, maybe ten twelves something like that, but certainly
Speaker 1: he's capable and absolutely mh and uh Lee wanted to know,
Speaker 1: is there any potential interest in Jamal Adams? Well, I
Speaker 1: mean Jamal Adams safety for the Jets. I don't know
Speaker 1: who would not be interested in Jamal Adams. He's a
Speaker 1: fantastic player. But first of all, there's no reason to
Speaker 1: believe that. I know there's been some discord there, but
Speaker 1: it appears like the Jets don't want to get rid
Speaker 1: of Jamal Adams, so it's probably a mood point. And
Speaker 1: then you also have to think about, uh, what do
Speaker 1: we take if the Jets decided to trade him to somebody,
Speaker 1: It's gonna take like pretty high draft capital again him
Speaker 1: think about Jalen Ramsey needing two first round picks to
Speaker 1: go to the Rams. I think corner maybe a somewhat
Speaker 1: more premier position than safety, but it would still cost
Speaker 1: quite a bit in draft capital, I assume. And I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if you're just drafting Antoine Winfield this year,
Speaker 1: Mike Edwards last year, Jordan Whitehead the year before that,
Speaker 1: that the Buccaneers wouldn't rather just keep that draft capital
Speaker 1: find out what they have in Winfield and and you know,
Speaker 1: build their safety position out of what's already on hand, right,
Speaker 1: Daniel lasked. He said, Tristan works has incredible speed, athleticism,
Speaker 1: Gronk is a great blocker. How much will that improve
Speaker 1: ball control with short yardage passes, especially in the screen
Speaker 1: pass and turnovers. Yeah, well, they're both. I thought that
Speaker 1: was going to go in direction of short yards in
Speaker 1: terms running the ball better, right, I think we could
Speaker 1: do both. The run game, you can you can take
Speaker 1: at that direction too. Well. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that are excited about Tristan Worse and Rob Gronkowski ning
Speaker 1: up next to each other on that side of the line.
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski is obviously a phenomenal blocker and always has
Speaker 1: been huge dude. Tristan Worse very athletic, as I said,
Speaker 1: And the Buccaneers didn't really run the ball particularly well
Speaker 1: last year. Um, they didn't run the ball well in
Speaker 1: the formation you would expect, which is two tight ends
Speaker 1: or twelve personnel. You don't you can run or throw
Speaker 1: out its twelve obviously, And the Buccaneers when they can
Speaker 1: put like Gronk and O J. Gronk and Cam or
Speaker 1: somebody together in the field it's gonna be tough for
Speaker 1: defenses and know what's gonna happen. But you also should
Speaker 1: be able to run the ball relatively well out of that,
Speaker 1: at least as well as you're running the ball out
Speaker 1: of other formations. And the Buccaneers, out of two tight informations,
Speaker 1: only ran about two point yards per carry, which isn't
Speaker 1: very good. And I think that's going to be a
Speaker 1: lot better this year. Uh. And so when you start
Speaker 1: running the ball better out of that, then obviously you're
Speaker 1: short passing your screens, your play actions are going to
Speaker 1: get better too. So you know, I think it'll all
Speaker 1: be better with those two additions. It's a great point.
Speaker 1: And I'm always amazed where you don't know these questions
Speaker 1: are coming and you can still spit out a stat
Speaker 1: like that, like, oh, you know about two yards, you know,
Speaker 1: just somewhere around there. I was writing about it yesterday,
Speaker 1: so I had the advantage. Okay, alright, Well you didn't
Speaker 1: have to tell us. We would have just thought you
Speaker 1: had all these numbers to start there, all Jack said.
Speaker 1: And he's he said, he's watching from Hong Kong, which
Speaker 1: is very cool, he said. Devin is such a confident man.
Speaker 1: Do you think he will break out this year apart
Speaker 1: from injury. I wonder what time it is in Hong
Speaker 1: Kong right now. I don't know the difference. Idea um
Speaker 1: could be happy are uh yeah, you know Devin White
Speaker 1: barring injury, but you would say that about anybody, So
Speaker 1: there's no reason to expect him to be injured. I
Speaker 1: know he had a little misfortune with his knee early
Speaker 1: on and that slowed down his progress. As Bruce Arian said,
Speaker 1: then you saw him really start to hit his stride
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. So let's say
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen again, because it probably won't knock on wood.
Speaker 1: So let's say that doesn't happen again. He should be
Speaker 1: able to come into the season, you know, with a
Speaker 1: full headed momentum and just be that all over the
Speaker 1: field range e, playmaking guy. And yeah, this could definitely
Speaker 1: be a breakout year for him. I think he sort
Speaker 1: of breakout at the end of last year, but this
Speaker 1: is the guy that could take it to the next level.
Speaker 1: And if you think about that, next to Lavonte David
Speaker 1: going strong. We always talked about how the Bucks have
Speaker 1: probably the best wide receiver duo in the league. Those
Speaker 1: two could probably make a case this year if Devin
Speaker 1: White really does break out for the best inside linebacker
Speaker 1: duo in the league, would be exciting. Yeah, completely agreeing. Um, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Lavante is probably one of people. I'm most excited for
Speaker 1: the fact that we have gotten Brady and Grunk, but
Speaker 1: now more people, hopefully we're going to see how amazing
Speaker 1: he's been for so long that we've all known about it. Um.
Speaker 1: Robert's watching from Denmark. I wanted to know what are
Speaker 1: our predictions on the Bucks record? You know, I did
Speaker 1: a thing the other day where I took other people's
Speaker 1: predictions media, you know, esp dot com, NFL dot com,
Speaker 1: various sites, and uh, what their win predictions were, what
Speaker 1: the power polls are actually power polls or something different,
Speaker 1: but win predictions. And just about every outlet I could
Speaker 1: find had the Bucks in double digit wins. Not everybody
Speaker 1: has this overcoming the Saints yet. And and that's that's
Speaker 1: like the next hurdle for this Buccaneers team. Back in
Speaker 1: the nineties, the first thing the Bucks had to do
Speaker 1: is they started to rise to prominence. You know, they
Speaker 1: made it back to the playoffs in nine seven. UM
Speaker 1: made it to the NFC Championship game in ninety nine.
Speaker 1: But the team that was always in the way, uh,
Speaker 1: the hurdle that they had to clear was Green Bay
Speaker 1: and they were winning the NFC Central. They had Brett Farve,
Speaker 1: had the great warrant set, Brett Farve battles. The Bucks
Speaker 1: finally started to overcome the Packers in like nine and
Speaker 1: ninety nine, and then you saw that they continued and
Speaker 1: then they had to beat the Eagles who they couldn't
Speaker 1: get past, and that and then got to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: This Bucks team that was hoping to get back to
Speaker 1: the playoffs and into long drought, it's the Saints that
Speaker 1: are standing in the white. The Saints have won the
Speaker 1: last three divisions. They were thirteen and three last year,
Speaker 1: and they can match Tom Brady Withdrew Brees, and they've
Speaker 1: got a good defense with the great off with a
Speaker 1: great pass rush. They've got a great offensive line. Um,
Speaker 1: I forgot where this question started. Griffin on the Saint
Speaker 1: What you think the record is going to be? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So if you if if I were just to agree,
Speaker 1: because obviously people are gonna think we're gonna be homers here,
Speaker 1: So if we just agree with what the outside media
Speaker 1: is saying Bucks are in the ten to eleven win
Speaker 1: drain wind range, but that won't necessarisarily be enough to
Speaker 1: win the division, So that's gonna be interesting. But I
Speaker 1: think double digits is the starting point for this team. Um.
Speaker 1: If you see odds makers, I think they usually put
Speaker 1: us on the over undered about nine point five wins.
Speaker 1: So ten is what I think is the baseline expectation.
Speaker 1: Obviously we're hoping for more like eleven or twelve, yes,
Speaker 1: for sure. Um. And it worked out really well that
Speaker 1: you happen to bring up the Saints because our next
Speaker 1: question is from Kenneth and he said, what's the key
Speaker 1: to stopping Breeze and Thomas this year? And he said,
Speaker 1: we gotta take the division over again. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: the idea of how to how to how to beat
Speaker 1: Breeze and Thomas, which you know, I'm pretty sure if
Speaker 1: we knew the answer to that, a lot of people
Speaker 1: in the league would be paying us a lot of money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas to me the Breeze to Michael Thomas combination, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, when you and I and Carmen were
Speaker 1: doing a roundtable week a couple of weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: one of the questions was what's the biggest challenge for
Speaker 1: the Bucks offense defense. My answer was Drew Brees to
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, and it's just everybody knows it's coming, and
Speaker 1: yet you can't stop it. He's very He's good at
Speaker 1: physically beating people, you know, like you know if the
Speaker 1: press or it breaks, and he's just such a good
Speaker 1: route runner. And then Drew Brees is so precise with
Speaker 1: his passes that you can know what's gonna happen, and
Speaker 1: he still catches passes on you. And by the end
Speaker 1: of the year he's got a hundred I think he
Speaker 1: had a hundred forty five receptions, so in sixteen games.
Speaker 1: That's like in the game. So I think that probably
Speaker 1: the key is accept the fact that Drew Brees is
Speaker 1: going to complete some passes to Michael Thomas, but keep
Speaker 1: them from being a big place. And sometimes with some
Speaker 1: of the some of the best players you face on
Speaker 1: either offense or defense, you know they're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 1: have some success against you. Just gotta try to limit it.
Speaker 1: M We also got a response from our guy watching
Speaker 1: from Hong Kong. He says it's ten pm, so he said, yes,
Speaker 1: happy hour it's been a long happy hour, Okay, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: happy hours. Cloral Dennis wanted to know what will key
Speaker 1: Shawn Vaughan's role be. Well, if you take what the
Speaker 1: Bucks had last year, and their primary carries were split
Speaker 1: between Ronald Jones and Peyton Barber, and now Peyton Barber
Speaker 1: isn't with us anymore, He's he's with Washington now, Keyshawn
Speaker 1: Vaughn to me would easily at the baseline step in
Speaker 1: there and take those number of snaps that Peyton Barber
Speaker 1: was getting. After the two Ronald Jones became the starter,
Speaker 1: about this eighth came in and then was the starter
Speaker 1: rest away and and then got more snaps, and he
Speaker 1: ended up with I think something like dventy two carries
Speaker 1: to pet Barber's hun forty five or something like that.
Speaker 1: So you can probably start that as the baseline because
Speaker 1: I think from comments you hear from both Bruce Arians
Speaker 1: and Jason Light is that there just aren't many teams
Speaker 1: anymore that are just giving all their carries carries to
Speaker 1: one back, you know, They're most teams are using a
Speaker 1: variety of running backs, and I think that's what we're
Speaker 1: going to be, like, uh Keshan I think could expand
Speaker 1: his role beyond that if he proves to be a
Speaker 1: good pass catcher and not just a guy screen passes,
Speaker 1: actually splitting out and running some routes. That's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna find out. They think he's capable of doing that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out if he can do that on
Speaker 1: the NFL level, And if he can, I think you
Speaker 1: could see his role expanding. But in the very least,
Speaker 1: I think he's part of the one to punch with.
Speaker 1: Ron Okay and Christopher wanted to know, do you think
Speaker 1: we'll see O. J. Howard play more than last year
Speaker 1: or will we see more Cameron Brakes? So which one
Speaker 1: of those guys you think we're going to see more
Speaker 1: playing time from. Yeah, I don't think you're probably would
Speaker 1: expect O. J. Howard if to play more than you
Speaker 1: did last year when you've added Rob Gronkowski to the mix.
Speaker 1: So I guess the question is who's gonna play more?
Speaker 1: O J. Howard or Cam brad Um. Just based on
Speaker 1: the snaps last year, O J. Howard played significantly more
Speaker 1: than Cam in games where they were both healthy. Uh,
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't expect that to change, but I'm interested
Speaker 1: to see how all that shakes out. You know, I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be creative with those three guys, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll have a good role for cam Bread,
Speaker 1: especially in the red zone where he's always proven to
Speaker 1: be so effective. I mean, he's twenty four touchdowns over
Speaker 1: the last four years, that's fourth among all tight ends
Speaker 1: of that span, and almost all those are plays that
Speaker 1: are snapped inside the opponent's twenty So, um, that's where
Speaker 1: his bread and butter is. And he said that before,
Speaker 1: like his sweet spot is around the fifteen yard line,
Speaker 1: So I think he's still quite a weapon there. But
Speaker 1: if you ask me which one I think will get
Speaker 1: more snaps overall, probably Howard okay, And Cash said, do
Speaker 1: you think Scotty Miller is going to be placed in
Speaker 1: more packages? That probably depends on how how good Tyler
Speaker 1: Johnson proves to be. I mean, last year, Breshad Kerreman
Speaker 1: was your three, and if you look at it, the
Speaker 1: snaps snap differential between Breshade and Scotty Miller when all
Speaker 1: the receivers were healthy, it was pretty wide. Breshade was
Speaker 1: taking almost all the third receiver stabs and Scotty was
Speaker 1: getting you know, maybe ten a game or something like that.
Speaker 1: And then there were two games where Brushad was out
Speaker 1: and Scotty Miller played a ton of snaps, and then
Speaker 1: he got a little bit more towards the end of
Speaker 1: the year before he heard his hamstring. Um. So to me,
Speaker 1: if Tyler Johnson quickly grabs that third receiver role, then
Speaker 1: Scotty is probably in the same position again, getting a
Speaker 1: snaps where he can and and and getting more when
Speaker 1: some guys are out with minor injuries. But on the
Speaker 1: other hand, Scotty, I'm sure is going to come into
Speaker 1: this camp whenever it happens with his goal of winning
Speaker 1: the third receiver job. And um, you know that speed,
Speaker 1: he's got his real he might be the fastest receiver
Speaker 1: on the team. And when you go to three ride receivers,
Speaker 1: we often put god When Chris Scott went into the
Speaker 1: slot where he was very effective last year, and and
Speaker 1: if you put Scotty on the outside where he mostly played,
Speaker 1: you've got that guy that can clear out the defense,
Speaker 1: maybe make some big plays, but at very least sort
Speaker 1: of clear out the defense to give more room for
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin working over the middle of the field. So, uh,
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to who really wins the primary
Speaker 1: third receiver job between those two guys and maybe Justin Watson.
Speaker 1: But um, so that's what you know. We'll see, we'll see, uh,
Speaker 1: and we'll close with this. I think the name is East. I.
Speaker 1: I hope I didn't botch that. East. I said which
Speaker 1: position group will have the biggest battle this year. That's
Speaker 1: a good one. Sounds like a good roundtable discussion. Warners,
Speaker 1: you know, safety, Uh, that would be one. Yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: probably have to go with safety. I think at most
Speaker 1: most spots, at the first two levels on defense, the
Speaker 1: starters are probably pretty close to set um and then
Speaker 1: on offense, you you can predict the offensive line. You
Speaker 1: know who the Titans are gonna be playing quarterback receivers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be safety. And uh, that's
Speaker 1: a lot of young guys, including a rookie that they're
Speaker 1: really high on, that have to sort out. And that
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean just two guys win and everybody else watches.
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles will do some stuff with free safeties and
Speaker 1: they'll have different packages. So we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1: But I think that's probably the best battle. All Right, Well,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us on this edition of
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