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Speaker 2: you are. Welcome man, I'm Mike Carmen alongside me Ryan Hollins.

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Speaker 2: Ten years in the league, working over with the fun

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Speaker 2: and exciting world of the upcoming Houston Rockets squad in

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Speaker 2: the Western Conference. Lots of NBA chatter. Busy week in

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Speaker 2: the league. How are you, mister Hollins?

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Brother?

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Speaker 2: Another you do another day in paradise, you know, so

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Speaker 2: some big stuff afoot. I'm days away from a vacation,

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Speaker 2: so starting to plan that, you know, these particulars for

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Speaker 2: some of the day day events kind of things. Kids

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Speaker 2: team advanced in their playoffs to Virginia, So a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks for more soccer going East Coast style. So

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Speaker 2: that's fun and exciting, and we crowned a new champion.

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Speaker 2: should be. And in the ultimate act of pettiness of

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Speaker 2: the Lakers said, Hey, we're gonna hire a coach before

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Speaker 2: your duckboat parade Celtics. We're gonna steal back the news

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Speaker 2: cycle because you know that game that you played and

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Speaker 2: you won, that was all fine and good. That was

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Speaker 2: days ago. Nobody cares anymore. Moving on, But one story

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Speaker 2: that was under the radar that I wanted to bring

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Speaker 2: in off the title is that you now have a

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Speaker 2: surgery set for Christaps porzingis so all the Hey, immediately,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about repeating and all this other stuff. There's

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Speaker 2: a guy that was pretty pivotal to a lot of

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Speaker 2: surgery for the quote rare condition which we really never

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Speaker 2: had explained to us though, Ryan, But you know, coming

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Speaker 2: fun stuff, thought, you know, maybe Dallas after that game

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Speaker 2: four win, maybe signs of life was I guess I

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Speaker 2: just hoped and wished way too much, because as we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you're you're right, but hey, congratulations to

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Speaker 3: prozingis I felt like he came in with so much

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Speaker 3: of let down, a lot of frustration with him in

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Speaker 3: his youth and maturity, and for him to sacrifice himself,

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Speaker 3: that's his legacy. You know, this year was a legacy

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Speaker 3: move for porzingis not that it means anything to any

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Speaker 3: of any of us or you know, or to him

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Speaker 3: definitely gonna be this this move in this series. And

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Speaker 3: you know how well that he played, and I think

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Speaker 3: that's great news. With the surgery, the reason I say

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Speaker 3: through it. It doesn't seem career ending, but hey, if

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Speaker 3: So hats off to porsingis Man, And you know, for me,

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Speaker 3: it was fun kind of watching him really just buy

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, anytime, and we talk about it in

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Speaker 2: And psychologically where that goes In this case, this guy

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Speaker 2: So full credit. Last week we did a deep dive.

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Speaker 2: People can go back and find the podcast on the

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Speaker 2: Wiley stylings of the thirty five year old Joe Missoula

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Speaker 2: as much as he did protests throughout the entirety of

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Speaker 2: the NBA playoffs, now you picked the Celtics to win it,

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Speaker 2: so fine. The fact that Porzingis had a huge role

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Speaker 2: It's several teams ago. It's okayme like, nah, we're watching

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Speaker 2: you die a little bit inside. That's something y'all can

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Speaker 2: do on your spare time as well. Wherever you get

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Speaker 2: from particularly right after the finals, you know, went final

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Speaker 2: Now that it's an official like, we can really extrapolate

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Speaker 2: what it means. We've got some Austin Reeves sound talking

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Speaker 2: Browny going? Otherwise there's not a lot of buzz for

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Speaker 2: this year's draft. Ryan Hollins. I know we can always

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Speaker 2: talk about, well, we don't have expectations. There's not these

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Speaker 2: Right you're coming off the title, You've got your your

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Speaker 2: who else can you add? I mean Derek White's getting

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Speaker 3: No, you know, man, you're you're absolutely right. Here's the

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Speaker 3: And this is why those players are called generational talents.

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Speaker 3: There are no Whimby's, you know, there are no uh,

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Speaker 3: that you know, some people's eyes the goat the greatest

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Speaker 3: Tar East and alprinshing Gun. These guys are all late

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Speaker 2: Club's let's talk about that for a second. The due

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Speaker 2: you know, again expanded in a in a draft that's

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Speaker 2: you don't actually get the opportunity to build in most situations, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: same exact experience, you know, for the Rockets right now,

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Speaker 2: that especially in a Western conference that's loaded, it's got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's well, if we didn't learn anything this year,

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Speaker 2: If you wanted to sing along, Ryan Hollins. I mean

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Speaker 2: he was at Fox Sports Radio. Genie's husband there. You

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Speaker 2: go see it all times to get.

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Speaker 3: And I do want to hear Chris say my sources

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Speaker 3: say one more time. I haven't heard it in a while.

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Speaker 3: I love when Chris does a shout out, mister Bissard,

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Speaker 3: do it a great job. Odd couple.

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Speaker 2: There you go get you got a shout out at

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Speaker 2: six point thirty in the morning. We'll make sure we

435
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Speaker 2: cut in front of that show. Yeah, but it's just

436
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Speaker 2: that kind of thing. I you know, on the I

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Speaker 2: talked to a couple of people, all right, you know,

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Speaker 2: I talked to a guys at the end of the bar.

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Speaker 3: Well, I do want to say this because I used

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Speaker 3: to hate that too. But you know, in the media

441
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Speaker 3: on the the the other guys I saw Carmelo a

442
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Speaker 3: couple days ago and say, welcome to the dark Side, Carmelo,

443
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Speaker 3: and it brings validity, and it sparks the eyes up,

444
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Speaker 3: and there's that question of oh, who's who's the source?

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Speaker 3: So even myself, you've heard me, and I had to

446
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Speaker 3: learn the dark side and the sources, you know. But

447
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Speaker 3: it's bad when you know, hey, your source is the

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Speaker 3: ball boy.

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Speaker 2: You know, hey, you're But what's the point, right, there's

450
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Speaker 2: just such a wide berth on what constitutes a source.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: The hairstylist on down.

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Speaker 3: In an NBA organization, you have no idea where half

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Speaker 3: the information comes from. So to try to put it

455
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Speaker 3: on one or two things, it's it's it's literally, it's

456
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Speaker 3: nearly impossible. It is nearly impossible to do because everybody

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Speaker 3: has so many differing opinions, you know. So for instance,

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Speaker 3: like let's say the Lakers. Yeah, half the Lakers organizations,

459
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Speaker 3: it's like, hey, whatever Lebron wants, he gets, you have

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Speaker 3: another half that's saying, man, we're tired of that dude.

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Speaker 3: You know, he wants too much. We didn't win. He's

462
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Speaker 3: all this, he's all that. Or you could, Hey, you

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Speaker 3: have the business side who loves him. You got the

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Speaker 3: basketball side who says, man, we can't really you know,

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Speaker 3: do anything with this roster. He's holding us back. You know.

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Speaker 3: So there there's so much that at the end of

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Speaker 3: the day goes into it and hey, you know, I

468
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Speaker 3: guess we're here for all of it. That that's as

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Speaker 3: part of being on the dark side. Well, Carmelo officially,

470
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Speaker 3: Welcome to the dark side.

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Speaker 2: Brother took took a long time. He was certainly a part.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look in that New York media. He had

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Speaker 2: anonymous sources coming at him from all angles at any

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Speaker 2: point during his career, no question about that.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But you know, back to the hiring itself, like first priority,

477
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Speaker 2: obviously it's four to five relationships with Lebron and a

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Speaker 2: d uh. It seems that you know, the conventional thinking here,

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Speaker 2: Ryan is that this becomes the true push towards making

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Speaker 2: a d the best player that he can be. Right, obviously,

481
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Speaker 2: all the defensive time and time again, health wise, you know,

482
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Speaker 2: generally a concern. But got through this year unscathed, but

483
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Speaker 2: really unleashing him offensively and making him a focal point.

484
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Speaker 2: But from a roster perspective, I mean, what's the first question.

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Speaker 2: If you're you're JJ Reddick and you're going to Rob

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Speaker 2: Polinka and the Basketball Odd Brain Trust, you know your

487
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Speaker 2: list of demands. If I said, all right, here's here's

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Speaker 2: my top three things I need to do, what are.

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Speaker 3: They established culture? That's first and foremost. Uh So, culture

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Speaker 3: would tell Rob Polinka. For those who don't know culture,

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Speaker 3: let's say, hey, I want to be For example, Ime

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Speaker 3: Udoka in Houston said, I want to be a tough,

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Speaker 3: gritty defensive team. I need a roster rafel and I

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Speaker 3: need to draft guys that help me defend. If if

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Speaker 3: you give me guys that can defend, I can where

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Speaker 3: I need to go. So JJ rettikin have to come

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Speaker 3: in and say, hey, these are these are my two priorities.

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Speaker 3: I want I want defense, or I want shooters, you know,

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Speaker 3: or hey, I want I want somebody on the offensive end.

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Speaker 3: And then you plug those guys into a culture and

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Speaker 3: for the Lakers, for JJ Reddick. As you talk about

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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis, I think you know, here's here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: For first off, Anthony Davis was when he's on the floor,

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Speaker 3: for the most part, he's he's a monster. Okay, he

505
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Speaker 3: does this thing, but you need people to get him

506
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Speaker 3: easy looks because now it's pick your poison. Anthony Davis

507
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Speaker 3: is a great finisher. So if you curl off of

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Speaker 3: him he sets a screen or something, you know he's

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Speaker 3: gonna get open. He's gonna make a play. Uh, he's

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Speaker 3: gonna put you and the team in a really really

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Speaker 3: successful position. And that's what a D that you know,

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Speaker 3: you kind of got to buy into, you know, is

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Speaker 3: is it's not just give him the ball and let

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Speaker 3: him work out and you know, do whatever he needs

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Speaker 3: to do. It's no, let's let's get people around him

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Speaker 3: that get a D easy looks because outside of Nicola Jokic,

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Speaker 3: he may be the best finisher, uh finishing big in

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Speaker 3: the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Right Ian Hollins, Mike Harmon, Fox Sports Sunday. Here Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio some more into the JJ Reddick hiring in

521
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Speaker 2: LA because I mean that it reverberates throughout the league

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Speaker 2: and you got a lot of guys raising an eyebrow

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Speaker 2: going what if? How about? So we'll talk about that

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Speaker 2: a little bit next hour. But coming up after our

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Speaker 2: update from Isaac Lowancron, we're gonna go and there's a

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Speaker 2: rumor about the draft that has me mightily intrigued, and

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Speaker 2: it comes from our guy Mark Stein. I want to

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Speaker 2: get your thoughts on this, Ryan Hollins, But first, why

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Speaker 2: don't we go and pay a visit to our friend

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Speaker 2: Isaac Loewen Kron still licking his wounds. A difficult loss

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Speaker 2: last night for Angel City FC. Another great call though, iloh,

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Speaker 2: thank you, you're on it, Bonnie, thank you. But yes,

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Speaker 2: that was that was tough.

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Speaker 6: My only consolation is that Angel City scored the exact

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Speaker 6: amount of goals that Houston did last night.

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Speaker 3: Oh wise, Low and Kron, boy, that was kind of

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Speaker 3: a jerk move on my pardon.

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Speaker 2: That was pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Going to you too.

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Speaker 2: I know he'll send you a breakfast sandwich, fia, not

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Speaker 2: from what.

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Speaker 6: A burger Anyway, there was a lot more.

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Speaker 2: Whoao low?

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Speaker 6: Are they even open for breakfast?

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Speaker 3: Anyway?

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Speaker 6: There was a lot more offense last night at Dodger

547
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Speaker 6: Stadium because the Dodgers defeated the Angels seven to two,

548
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Speaker 6: and the offense provided in part by Shoe Heeyo. Toddy

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Speaker 6: is twenty third home run of the season to lead

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Speaker 6: the National League, as he homered for a third consecutive game. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 6: on the Mount, Tyler glasnow ten strikeouts, no walks in

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Speaker 6: seven innings for the win. The Colorado Rockies rallied for

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Speaker 6: two in the bottom of the ninth thinning, the best

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Speaker 6: the Nationals eight to seven. The winning run scored on

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Speaker 6: the first walk off pitchclock violation in Major League history.

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Speaker 6: Here's how it sounded.

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Speaker 7: On KOA three balls, two strikes, tied at seven. The

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Speaker 7: pitch time called time violation. Pitchclock violation on Finnegan.

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Speaker 1: And that's the game.

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Speaker 7: The Rockies on the pitcher Finnegan taking too much time.

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Speaker 7: That becomes ball four and for the first time in

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Speaker 7: the new rules, the Rockies have a walk off on

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Speaker 7: a pitch violation.

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Speaker 6: The Yankees over the Braves eight to three. Aaron Judges

565
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Speaker 6: major league leading twenty eighth home run of the season. Finally,

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Speaker 6: Mike and Ryan, we have an air conditioning update. Okay,

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Speaker 6: the US Olympic team will be supplying air conditioning units

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Speaker 6: for US athletes at the upcoming Olympics in Paris. Because

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Speaker 6: Paris Olympic organizers are not providing air conditioning for athletes

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Speaker 6: at the Olympic village, They'll instead be utilizing a system

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Speaker 6: of cooling pipes in the floors in an effort to

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Speaker 6: reduce the games carbon footprint. So a massive shipment of

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Speaker 6: air conditioning units heading to Paris for Team USA.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, does that count his performance enhancing? Probably?

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Speaker 2: Good point?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Legitimately, I mean just because you're not you know, injecting,

578
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: inhaling or swallowing. Hey, you know, is that wrong? What

579
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: am I wrong for asking that much? Not wrong at all.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's a legal performance enhancer.

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Speaker 2: The fact that you get to train in the altitude

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Speaker 2: is a whole other things.

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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: See, I asked, I asked the tough questions here.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable, man, what Islo gets on just as anarchy breaks out?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, he's a rule breaker. What do

587
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: you think about the pitchclock violation? Real quick? Before we

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Speaker 2: get to our break, here isilo you got a thought

589
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Speaker 2: on this?

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Speaker 6: I can't wait for the World Series to be decided

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Speaker 6: by a walk off pitchclock violation. If only Kirk Gibson

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Speaker 6: and Dennis Eckersley had a pitchclock violation involved right.

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Speaker 2: Or any game involving Carlton Fisk or anybody else who

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Speaker 2: would get up in Adjustin's for every p.

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Speaker 6: Instead of waving the home run fair, he's waving the

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Speaker 6: pitch clock down to zero.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was truly a human Reiin delayed get up

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Speaker 2: and adjustice cup and his chest protector, and he'd stand

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00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: there for twenty seconds at a time. What do you

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Speaker 2: think about this? Ryan? I mean I saw this last

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Speaker 2: night and just had to shake my head. This is

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Speaker 2: not what the founders intended.

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Speaker 3: As an athlete, you know, the NBA has had a

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Speaker 3: number of rule changes. You don't like it at first,

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00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 3: you fuss, you're gonna be upset. It's better for the game.

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants to sit through these elongated just games. I

607
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Speaker 3: mean they cut what how much was cut? What? An

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Speaker 3: hour and a half off of what they may come

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Speaker 3: out and do is say, hey, final inning, do whatever

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Speaker 3: you want. You know, take your time figure it out

611
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: or they stick with it. But guess what athletes suggest

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Speaker 3: the rules? Yeah, no, exactly, and that's on coaching. That's coaching, dude.

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Speaker 3: So unfortunate loss. But you hope that those things will change,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think that, uh, you'll see too many

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Speaker 3: of those in all reality since the rule, Like, am

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Speaker 3: I wrong? Are you surprised that there's only one? Did

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Speaker 3: you think there'd be more?

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Speaker 2: Well, not for walkoff situations? No, I mean there's plenty

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Speaker 2: of violations. Just I guess it was inevitable. And now

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Speaker 2: they get to put this in Cooperstown. Hopefully that ball

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Speaker 2: that was in the pitcher's hand that never won gets

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Speaker 2: put off, gets put in Cooperstown. Here's the first the

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Speaker 2: new rules are working. There you go, you either have

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Speaker 2: to get a hit, a walk or take one for

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Speaker 2: the team.

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Speaker 3: And there's a term mess around and find out, and

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Speaker 3: they messed messed around and.

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Speaker 2: They found out right way to clean it up for

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning. He's right all to Mike Harmon here Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. And coming up next, Yeah, the aforementioned rumblings

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Speaker 2: and rumors concerning the number one pick coming up in

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Speaker 2: the draft. I think this is fascinating. We'll talk about

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Speaker 2: it next here on Fox.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radios. Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Mike Garment alongside Ryan Hollin's coming up in ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: When you go and try to rewrite history agendas or

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Speaker 2: just plain old good research and truth telling, we'll try

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Speaker 2: to sort it out here. Coming up about ten minutes

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Speaker 2: from now. But first address a rumor that's out there.

641
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Speaker 2: Mark Stein joins Jason and I each week NBA Insider.

642
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Speaker 2: He's based in Dallas. Is rumors that the San Antonio

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Speaker 2: Spurs may look to move up to the number one slot.

644
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 2: Now we know at the Atlanta Hawks and Landry Fields

645
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: and the he's saying that they're gonna stand pat, but

646
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 2: there's always the potential of that sweetheart deal that makes

647
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: the makes the world su a little bit. We know

648
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: the Hawks are overall kind of open for business right now.

649
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: We've had trade rumors for pretty much everybody on that roster,

650
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: including their two biggest stars, so potential to go. But

651
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: the idea that all of a sudden, it's the hey,

652
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: how do we link someone up with Wembin Yama, and

653
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: that who is it? Is it Sar, Is it another

654
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: Frenchman to come over and play with him, or is

655
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 2: you know, Donovan Klinging or someone else making some noise.

656
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: But san Antonio Spurs didn't really advance much in the

657
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: first year of the Wemby era as well as he

658
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: played Ryan Hollins. But you know, to hear the potential

659
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: of them trying to slide up to the number one

660
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: spot color me intrigued.

661
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, again we talked about earlier in the show,

662
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: there is a front office. Even though you're saying it's

663
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: not a deep draft, there's somebody that's been identified, and

664
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: the Spurs must be saying it's either a smoke screen

665
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: or they're saying, this be our guy. Because a lot

666
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: of times too, you know, you don't want to let

667
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: that intel out. You may see someone that you think

668
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 3: is the next it, you know, and you're not saying, hey,

669
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: you know, we think they're this, you know, and I know,

670
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: hey for this year is Cam Whitmore. And front office

671
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: was a static, you know when he became available, and

672
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, playing that game of cat

673
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: and mouse, playing that game of chicken, Right, Hey, do

674
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: I have to move up? You know the other team

675
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: to go, well, why do you want to move up?

676
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: Or why do you want to move down? What do you?

677
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: What do you? What do you think is that you

678
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: that you like? So you know, keeping that stuff close

679
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 3: to the vest is very important, and hey, who knows

680
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: that this san Antonio may be playing the game here,

681
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 3: you know? Or or hey you know sometimes you put

682
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: out I don't want to say fake news, but you go, well, well,

683
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: we tried to get Trey Young, guys, because the fan

684
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: base is probably fed up and saying, you know, no

685
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: one's there to throw the ball. We have a guy

686
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 3: who's seven foot six and athletic and mean and jump,

687
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: and nobody's can throw the ball to him high enough,

688
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: you know, so they'll say, hey, well we try to

689
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 3: get Trey Young. It just didn't work out well.

690
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: But I mean, that was the kind of thing not

691
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: to make it all about the the Lakers hiring process,

692
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: but that's certainly the big story that's been lingering over

693
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: the NBA the last couple of weeks. You know, a

694
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: lot of folks walked away when Danny Hurley said no,

695
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 2: It's like, well, see they took their big shot. That's

696
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: good enough, ye right, so same thing here. As you know,

697
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 2: you get a little bit out there and then if

698
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: you can't pull off a major deal. Look, as a

699
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: guy who's a fan, and I say this publicly again

700
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: for those new to the show, welcome in. We appreciate you,

701
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: Thanks for giving us a few minutes of your time.

702
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: I am a White Sox fan. I am from the

703
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: South Side of Chicago. Long have the White Sox been?

704
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 2: The quote unquote mystery team revealed after big signings and trades,

705
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, the White Sox were in it. It's like,

706
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: were they really or you just kind of tagging them on.

707
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 2: It's because someone in the organization wants to feel good, said, hey,

708
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: we gave it our best shot. So that's kind of

709
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: where we're at here for the after. There'll be a

710
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: million and one rumors between now and when the commissioner

711
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: takes to the podium to get booed and then welcome

712
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: everybody in. But it's just intriguing, you know, trying to

713
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: figure out building around Wembin Yama Popovich and rebuilding that

714
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: roster because you've got a couple of pretty decent component parts.

715
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 2: But again, Wemby played as well as he did played

716
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 2: more games that I think most of us thought Ryan

717
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: in terms of acclimating to the schedule, the wear and tear,

718
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 2: I think, you know, he overachieved, if that's even possible

719
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: given the level of hype that he came in with.

720
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: But you know, now it's trying to figure out, all right,

721
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: what are the best fits to work with him and

722
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: a draft and look, I have no doubt. And you know,

723
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: when I listened to the true NBA draft knicks and

724
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: folks around the league, when they say, hey, you know,

725
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 2: there's nobody overwhelming in here, doesn't mean you won't find

726
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: fifteen guys that have nice, long careers. It's just there's

727
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: not the the obvious, at least consensus number one guy.

728
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but but again teams are probably not telling

729
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 3: you no. Of course, this is the guy I like.

730
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: You know, and hey, remember when you know we talked

731
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: about Porzingis, But nonetheless as a prospect, he was a

732
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 3: heck of a prospect and he came out of nowhere.

733
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: Porzingis. See it all ties back to Porzengis, the Unicorn

734
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 2: as it were, which is the name has now been

735
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: transferred to Victor wembin Yama. Had you watched the guy

736
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: in a the local shop doing his h his break

737
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: yesterday he pulled a one of one Wemby for somebody.

738
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I'm surprised he stayed his comments. He did

739
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: because he probably just paid that guy's mortgage for a year. Yeah, crazy,

740
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: crazy stuff, no question about it. At the Ryan Hollins

741
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: where you find Ryan on Twitter find me over at

742
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: swollen dumb uh. We again, we thank you all for

743
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: being part of the extended family, hanging out with us

744
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: a little bit here on a Sunday morning. As you're

745
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: out and about here in the summer heat, obviously be

746
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: safe and make sure you hydrate. Hydrate, hydrate. Coming up next,

747
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: we turn our attention to another story dominating the NBA,

748
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: but it's all about history and possibly rewriting one of

749
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: the greats. We'll talk about it next.

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Speaker 2: my guy Ryan Hollins ten years in the league, fictionalized

764
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: version of him on Clipped, He's in Uncut Gems, the

765
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: opinionated seven Footers podcast out there. What else could I

766
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: plug for you?

767
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, You're too kind. You make me

768
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 3: feel feel like a lot more than what I really am.

769
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: You're an accomplished man. And in the end, if we

770
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: can't sell sell the greatness in ourselves, how can we

771
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: expect other people to do it?

772
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, look at you?

773
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 2: There you go Sunday mornings, positivity, there's your there's your

774
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: thing looking in the mirror. I'm good enough. I'm gonna

775
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: go full Stuart Smallly on you as we do. But yeah,

776
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: big day in sports, we get to watch another Fever

777
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: and Sky Game later, Iowa. Sam is raising his arms

778
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 2: triumphantly because he's, you know, normally working in the afternoons

779
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: here Ryan during the week, so he's blessing us with

780
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: an appearance here on a Sunday morning. So the fact

781
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: that he got up this early and he'll be rewarded

782
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: but being able to be paid to watch Caitlyn Clark,

783
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: I think he's very excited about, Wow, did you go?

784
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: We'll see we got a Wahoo and we got a

785
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: Howard Dean. That's how we know. I was an as

786
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: plugged in on a Sunday morning. So we'll get into

787
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: the the Clark and and Reese and and all of

788
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: that fun stuff a little bit later, because you know,

789
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 2: we've got all Star voting out and we keep seeing

790
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: the arenas and arenas, and Caitlin Clark said something you know,

791
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: pretty big that I like was a kind of a

792
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: challenge a dare to the w NBA as we go,

793
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 2: and it might out help me in my pop culture knowledge,

794
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, as well as to a reason why something

795
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: she wanted couldn't get done. But we got folks that

796
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: are trying to go back and rewrite some history in

797
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: the NBA. A story came out the other day that

798
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: there's a project that started going back into old games,

799
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: specifically targeting Michael Jeffrey Jordan. So as as soon as

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00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: I say that, what's the first thing that you would

801
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: speculate as to who, what, why, and how someone would

802
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 2: be undergoing such a project, Ryan Hollins.

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00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: You want to know why the project? Oh?

804
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: I want to see if you'll you'll agree with me,

805
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: but I don't want to lead the witness.

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00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: Okay, So so you you want me to say, why

807
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 3: are they going after Jordan's Why?

808
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: Why would they go back in a well stats project? Well,

809
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: here's the thing, Michael Jordan's history.

810
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 3: Here's the thing one uh maybe a Lebron fan, so

811
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: one big about the Lebron thing, but there's been a

812
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: big push. Uh. There's a guy who's been doing these

813
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: Instagram videos or YouTube video I'm not sure what what

814
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 3: he started the property on and he's you know, it's

815
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: it's kind of like he's kind of spoofing you know,

816
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: eighties and nineties basketball and all of our great legends.

817
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: He's going back and he's chopping down these clips and

818
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: he's going these guys were horrible and he's he's one

819
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 3: of the nineties were trash and he and it's kind

820
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 3: of sparked this thing where people are going back and

821
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: looking or like, you know, he'd had a clip of

822
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: you know, he's done it to like everybody, any great player.

823
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 3: He's going and chopping him down. It's sometimes comical because

824
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: he's just searching. He goes Michael Jordan couldn't drive to

825
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: with his left hand, and he finds all these clips

826
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: where Jordan's fumbling the ball off his leg going to

827
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: the left. So, you know, I think it stirred up

828
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Speaker 3: some controversy. A lot of people say that those legacies

829
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 3: are just cemented and sometimes people are going back and questioning, Okay, well,

830
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 3: what really was the legacy of Michael Jordan. No one

831
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: can doubt that he's great. In The biggest compliment that

832
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: I believe Jordan gets is from the people he played against,

833
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 3: from his teammates. You know, that's the true when you

834
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 3: when those people are giving you props, that that's the

835
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 3: biggest love you can get. Forget us fans.

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Speaker 2: So you have Tom Habistro is the gentleman's name goes

837
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 2: up on Yahoo and it's specifically targeting the nineteen ninety

838
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: eight season and talking about the disparity in steals Home

839
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: and Road from Michael Jordan, and yes, noted Lebron fans

840
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: sick aphant, whatever word you want to use for it.

841
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: Nick Wright got in the mix and said, well, I

842
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: might have had a part in this as a consultant,

843
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: so you know, so you know it kind of goes

844
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: to that end. He put it on video. I didn't

845
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: make that up, so you know that. That's the thing. Look,

846
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: it's not me being a protector of Jordan. It just

847
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: becomes the all right, what's ruled, what's real, what's imagined,

848
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: because it naturally it now starts the slap fight in

849
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: the social media spheares of folks going through Lebron James

850
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: games and the reading of the rules of what constitutes

851
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: a rebound and finding clip after clip of Anthony Davis

852
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: kind of palming the ball and tapping it Lebron's way

853
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 2: and getting a tick in the rebound category for Lebron James.

854
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: So it seems like we're now going to play that

855
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: game in the media and see where we can take

856
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: stats and run them down area.

857
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: Well, they've already questioned Lebron's Rookie of the Year in

858
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 3: that Carmelo should have got it. That's the one for

859
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 3: Lebron that's going now, Rookie of the Year is not

860
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: as big as Defensive Player of the Year, you know,

861
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: and for Guard to get out of I think Michael

862
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: Cooper got it, that's a huge accolue. And they talked

863
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: about Michael Jordan. That's a big like and he was

864
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: Defensive Player.

865
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: Of the Year, you know, multiple times. Yeah, yeah, so

866
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 2: certainly Guard played. I mean, normally it was the big

867
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: men ruling the world. The Rookie of the Year voting

868
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: looked like these votes, right, I mean, because if we

869
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: just go into a more recent phenomenon, was Jalen Brown

870
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: the MVP or was Jason Tatum? There seemed to be

871
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: a lot of consternation and handwringing over the way that

872
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: vote came out for the finals MVP.

873
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: Ryan, Yeah, yeah, well, you know what would the sports

874
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: be without controversy. I mean, I think Jaylen Brown got

875
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: the MVP. He's just the momentum from everything he did

876
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, rode the wave there. Jason Tatum, man,

877
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: you could split hairs with that. But I think Jalen

878
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 3: Brown was a little bit more locked in. You know,

879
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: you could say, well.

880
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: Hit more shots, because folks immediately went to the accumulative

881
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: for Jason Tatum and leading them in points, rebounds, and assists.

882
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 2: But a lot of that came in the blowout final game.

883
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 2: It doesn't take away those stats, but in terms of

884
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: building the lead to three to zero and everything else,

885
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: you know, there were more signature moments I would say

886
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: from Brown along the way, shots don'ts et cetera. But

887
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: you know that's just to say a vote wentz what

888
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: seven to four and immediately the hands were up, going, well,

889
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, same thing as we go through back

890
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: to some of these others. You know, first Team All

891
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 2: Defense versus who wins Defensive Player of the Year, right,

892
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 2: this year, a lot of folks raising their hand going

893
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: how did win Benyama? Just because his team didn't win games,

894
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: doesn't mean he wasn't, you know, impactful or perhaps more

895
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 2: impactful than we saw. And certainly Rudy Gobert is never

896
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: winning another Defensive Player of the Year award after the

897
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,959
Speaker 2: playoffs this year.

898
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 3: No, it's tough and that's the end of that one. Well,

899
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: to me, Defensive Player of the Year comes a lot

900
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: with success. You know, what success have you had, you know,

901
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: the team's success and their team didn't have the success.

902
00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: So I think that's where, you know, those questions were raised.

903
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 3: That's why he ended up not getting it. But by

904
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 3: far Wimby was once he kind of figured out that

905
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: second half of the season what his length is and

906
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: he moved over from playing the four to the five.

907
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: I mean, he's I haven't seen anything that intimidating defensively

908
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 3: in a while. And you know a lot of times,

909
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: you know, you go over a defensive scouting report about

910
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 3: how you want to guard the other team, and it's rare,

911
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: I want to say, for me since Dwight Howard that

912
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 3: you'd go into the paint and you know, in practice

913
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 3: you had to work on jump you know, shot fakes,

914
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 3: you know shot fakes, work on those shot fakes to

915
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 3: try to you know, get him in the air or

916
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 3: something like that. And that's that's a big thing there, man.

917
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, even in that recovery and the fact that he

918
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: can go out and guard the perimeter and all is

919
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: such a big deal. Jordan, that nineteen ninety eight defensive

920
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: player that year, nine time first team defense Player All NBA.

921
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: So you know, you go to that, but it's just

922
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: it's curious, right as we go in the annals of history.

923
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: One of the big things that happened this year was

924
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 2: also going back to baseball, right the implementation of negro

925
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 2: league stats into Major League Baseball and trying to come

926
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: to grips with you know, the two separate leagues, but

927
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: home run leaders, win leaders, all of these great accomplishments.

928
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: Josh Gibson. You know, Willie May has passed away this week.

929
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: In going back through he you know, he had a

930
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 2: couple of hits had been added to his career total

931
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: during that project as well. So you know, it's it's

932
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: trying to figure out, you know, the the good from it,

933
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: and then I guess, MythBusters do we do we have

934
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 2: an extension of that? Who does that for the sports

935
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 2: side of it? Because you got to have a cool

936
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: beard and wear jaunty hats if you're gonna do that.

937
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I got a lot of jaunty hats, so

938
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: I could be that guy. We can get there. I

939
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: just you know, I find it funny, especially when some

940
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: of these are going to be subjective and look, I

941
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 2: haven't watched all the old Jordan tape, And let's face it,

942
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 2: what do we see for any of these guys twenty

943
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: years later. It's only the good highlights. We don't see

944
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: the turnover when they threw the ball anticipating the big

945
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: was going to get to his spot and he didn't,

946
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: and it's an easy turnover and fast break the other way. No,

947
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 2: we don't see that. That doesn't get romanticized, and certainly

948
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: it is not laid out the same way that we

949
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: consume sports these days, between betting, fantasy and just the

950
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 2: availability of every team, every game, etc. You know, there's

951
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: always agendas in terms of myth building and getting a

952
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: guy to the next I mean, how many conversations have

953
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: we had about who is going to be the face

954
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: of the NBA once Lebron James has done? Plenty of

955
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 2: guys have turned over their microphone to callers to allow

956
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: them to stand for their guy. You know. So it's

957
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 2: it's a curious time, you know, if they're going to

958
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 2: do this league wide, I'd be curious to see what

959
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 2: some of those breakdowns start to be? Right? How many

960
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: how many assists go away from John Stock?

961
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: Oh goodness, you know what I mean?

962
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 2: Like, let's let's start checking and ticking the you know,

963
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: the boxes for some of our great statistical leaders. You know,

964
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: you want to go back. Some of it was just

965
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: word of mouth. We don't even have video for some

966
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: of the earliest incarnations.

967
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: Well, think about the battle too. Right on the other end,

968
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 3: you know, here's the thing. The older generation says, you

969
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 3: got subpar players averaging fifteen to seventeen points because per game,

970
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: because the game is so fast, it was harder to

971
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 3: average that. So for the guys who were in the

972
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 3: twenty to twenty five point rings are going and you've

973
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 3: heard a couple comments on average fifty points, stay right,

974
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 3: I'd average fifty easy. The way they guard they couldn't

975
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 3: guard me. You know, that's being thrown around. And it's

976
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 3: not that the rules aren't different or there's less protection

977
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: in the paint. What it is is the game is

978
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 3: so much faster. Can you run at that pace so

979
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 3: you can get your thirty? But you walk the ball

980
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 3: up and down the floor, you didn't need to sub out. Hey,

981
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 3: you're resting on defense. The other team's holding the basketball.

982
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 3: So can you play the same amount of minutes night

983
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 3: after night to be able to get there? And to me,

984
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: that's the question. But you know you're wondering where, you know,

985
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 3: all this drama's raised from, and it's the debate and

986
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 3: the differences in style and saying, hey, could Jordan do

987
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: what he did back in the day in this in

988
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: this era? Hey Lebron who you know, you know, I

989
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 3: guess flops and knows how to use the referees and

990
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 3: many people's eyes, will he be able to do what

991
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 3: he did in this era? You know? And that's where

992
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 3: all the questions are. Ray, that's the big hooplah.

993
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's the beauty of the AI world. We could

994
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: get that drawn up for us, because otherwise, you know,

995
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: it's just theorizer going whenever we do the hey, let's

996
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: transplant this player thirty years later, how would they match up? Well,

997
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: if they have the same training advantages, flight schedules, trainers

998
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 2: and everything else that they get the medical marvels, you know,

999
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 2: modern science for a lot of the recovery stuff that

1000
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: didn't exist in the eighties, the seventies, the sixties, hell

1001
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 2: for most of the nineties. I disagree to that led

1002
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: to what we have now.

1003
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 3: Well, well, yes and no, So this is where I disagree.

1004
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: You know, I always look back at Kareem and the

1005
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 3: longevity that Kareem had. And one of the things that

1006
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 3: I kind of looked at is what did Kareem do?

1007
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 3: You know, he didn't just do basketball training. He was

1008
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: doing you know, the martial arts training. Sure, so a

1009
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 3: lot of you know now the stretch.

1010
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: Swan doing the yeah is ballet and whatever else.

1011
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the yoga those things. But no as far

1012
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 3: as technology, no, not even close. So no, they couldn't

1013
00:54:58,800 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 3: just go.

1014
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: But I mean you can go and hooked up to

1015
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: a machine right now and and just sit there and

1016
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: take a nap.

1017
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well they did it the old I think

1018
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 3: there was a big difference. They did the old fashioned way.

1019
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 3: I know all the stories of Michael Jordan and he'd

1020
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 3: go out and just smoking, drink and do all these things.

1021
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that he didn't, but I also

1022
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 3: believe there's no way that Michael Jordan didn't take care

1023
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 3: of his body. No, sure, right, And I don't think

1024
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 3: that you're saying that. So I'll give you I'll give

1025
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: you a story real quick. We had Dion Sanders on

1026
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 3: the podcast, and you know what was funny is that

1027
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: Dion said he'd get his buddies together from an opposing team.

1028
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 3: They'd want to go out. He'd take them out. He'd

1029
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 3: fill everybody's drinks up. He'd have water and hit his

1030
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 3: drink and he'd go out the back door and the

1031
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: next day they'd be trashed, they'd be going prime. How'd

1032
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 3: you do it? Man? I was at the door by

1033
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: about eleven thirty. Yeah, you guys didn't even know I left. So,

1034
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 3: you know, I do think there's a little like you said,

1035
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 3: you know, the the story maybe doesn't always fit because

1036
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 3: they're they're juicing a little bit, or those guys weren't

1037
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: just out there going crazy or better. Yet, you know,

1038
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 3: they they cracked the code of nutrition to be able

1039
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: to play at that level and for that amount of time.

1040
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 2: No, that's it, right, And obviously, you know it's always

1041
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: you know, one of the things when you go to

1042
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: the outliers of things. Right when we look at Brady's longevity,

1043
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: you know, Rogers, you know seeming you know, he got

1044
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: deep into his thirties, then he has this serious injury.

1045
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 2: We'll see what the comeback is. But Drew Brees before

1046
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 2: his arm fell off, he got to the league thirties.

1047
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 2: He's no, he said, it. I could have played another

1048
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: four years if it wasn't from my shoulder. I'm like, yeah,

1049
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: you're a quarterback. That's kind of an important thing.

1050
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 3: Oh goodness.

1051
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: But like with Kareem, I mean, he's he's a unicorn.

1052
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 3: But think about the training, about the training that he

1053
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 3: was doing, you know.

1054
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: But again to the point of, you know, someone's got

1055
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: to be a trail blow that way, and it's cool,

1056
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 2: but you know, I'm sure he was looked at with

1057
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 2: everybody going, what the hell are you doing over their

1058
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: Kareem until he was, you know, hanging out with Bruce

1059
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 2: Lee and stuff, then he was cool.

1060
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but but but nonetheless, yeah, he for sure

1061
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 3: had to have extended his career, you know by doing

1062
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 3: such one hundred percent.

1063
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: Well, the style of game helped as well, right, and

1064
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: not that there wasn't the same wear and tear on

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00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: the knees that I certainly don't need to quote airplane

1066
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: here in terms of dragging big man up and down

1067
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: the court. But to your point, different pace game, different

1068
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: style style, make fight and and all those. You know, yes,

1069
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: there's been some rule changes, but again it's a much

1070
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: faster game, and you know, in terms of possessions per

1071
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: minute and everything else. He's Ryan Allins. I'm buy Carbon

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Watch for that story to continue as

1073
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: more games get shown out, as the week goes on,

1074
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: and the battle lines being drawn between generations, which is

1075
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: always fun. Ryan at the Ryans at Swollen Dome at

1076
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio is where you find me. Hey, let's

1077
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: circle back to what has been a dynastic run. At

1078
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: what point does it become a nostalgia tour. We'll talk

1079
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: about it next on Fox. Hey, welcome back in Fox

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00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: Sports Radios. Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carbon alongside Ryan Hollins,

1081
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: Big day of sports. I had euro Copa America, got

1082
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: some golf going on, F one race rolling through and

1083
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: then obviously the fever and Sky Tomorrow night Stanley Cup Final.

1084
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: Leave off the s because otherwise Hockey guy will come

1085
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: and to attack you. Ryan Hollins. Game seven where we

1086
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: did not think this series was going. Just like the

1087
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: Mavericks getting blown out early. It seemed like, ah, this

1088
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 2: is gonna be done and we'll be coronating the Florida Panthers. Instead,

1089
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: we go back to a Game seven, We're hearing the

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00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: tirak Fox Sports Radio Studios. You can find Ryan on

1091
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: Twitter at the Ryan Hollins. Find me over at Swollen Dome.

1092
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: Lots swirling around in the NBA coming about twenty minutes,

1093
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: a fun thing for baseball. Normally, Mets talk is reserved

1094
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: for Jason Smith and me yelling at him. But there

1095
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: was something that happened in a game yesterday that I

1096
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: want to highlight because well, I'm gonna get on my

1097
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: soapbox and scream at people just like the Mets announcers did.

1098
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 2: But up in the Bay Area, once Oakland now San Francisco,

1099
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors trying to tread that and find

1100
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 2: that line right some parallels to at least where the

1101
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: Lakers are theoretically right of older guard trying to figure

1102
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: out how do you bridge to the next how do

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00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: you in this new Jj Reddick era for the Lakers,

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00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: how do you take the Lebron and ad and what's

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00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: left of their run and push towards that next next

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00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 2: iteration of what you're team is going to be? And

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01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: for the Warriors, one of the guys that's been standing

1108
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: out most consistently as a well he probably isn't there anymore,

1109
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson. They're currently at what they call they've hit

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01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: a wall in contract negotiation. Remember the last time we

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01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: saw him thirty two minutes. Oh for ten from the field,

1112
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: oh for six from three point range, defensive range, everything else.

1113
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: Points per game, down four from the year prior. Still

1114
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 2: have Draymond under contract for another couple of years. Steph Curry,

1115
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: still with his game. But Ryan, if you're looking at

1116
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson at this point, if Golden State were to

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01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: pay him, what is perceived market value, whether it be

1118
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 2: Orlando or some other suitor. Are we just buying into

1119
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: a nostalgia run or is there still something that Steve

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01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: Kerr can can get from him to still make them

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01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: at least on the edge of being a contender.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot that you can get from Klay Thompson.

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Speaker 3: Make no mistake, Listen, Golden State's going to prepare a

1124
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Speaker 3: number and they're gonna say, Clay, this is what we

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Speaker 3: think we value you at for us to stay competitive

1126
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 3: and still, you know, go after other free agents to

1127
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 3: kind of bolster our roster. And then it seemed like

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Speaker 3: the Magic is going to say, well that's where they

1129
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 3: value you. We're going ten million, five to ten you know,

1130
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,439
Speaker 3: probably ten to twenty million. Who knows over that that

1131
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 3: that's where we value at and they're not going to

1132
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 3: be willing to do that. We're before it's like, hey Clay,

1133
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 3: here's his max contract. Boom, take it, here's the extension.

1134
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 3: Take it. They're going, we don't know if that's the

1135
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 3: wisest choice, you know, And Clay's going to ask himself,

1136
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 3: do I make a run with my guys? Want to

1137
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 3: get up and pack up and move? I've never played

1138
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 3: for another organization. How important is the money? Can I

1139
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 3: make that money off of the court? Where does my happiness?

1140
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 3: Way in? It may not even be about money. Hey

1141
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 3: are they respecting me? Because guess what, they don't pay you.

1142
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 3: They can bench you. You don't have the same say

1143
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 3: when they're paying you. They gotta play you. They gotta

1144
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 3: put you out there, you know, and they were intrigued

1145
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 3: to see that. Keep in mind, man, Clay Thompson just

1146
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 3: it's probably a miracle he's playing basketball, you know, tearing

1147
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 3: his knee up, then the Achilles, all those things you

1148
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 3: know happened. So just impressive that he's there. And you

1149
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 3: know it's the competitor, and Clay's gonna have to speak.

1150
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember, I mean, I never was any

1151
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 3: bit of the player of Klay Thompson. But you know,

1152
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 3: as a player, you hey, I'm better than this guy.

1153
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 3: I'm better than this guy. You know, I can play

1154
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 3: at this level and you want to demand that type

1155
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 3: of money. But when that money's not being offered, I

1156
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 3: had to swallow some pills and say, let me just

1157
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 3: go out and be grateful for what I have. Be thankful, man,

1158
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 3: you're you're here. So I don't know where Clay Thompson

1159
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 3: sees himself, but I know other teams will likely be

1160
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 3: willing to offer more. Maybe he can, you know, use

1161
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 3: some of that juice. If were talking about Hurley using leverage, juse,

1162
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 3: get some leverage to say, Golden State. If they see

1163
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 3: me this here, you you you should feel the same way.

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01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the curiosity, right, what's the value

1165
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: proposition for him at this point in terms of and

1166
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: I hate the term legacy, but let's call it what

1167
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 2: it is. That's what we do a lot of here

1168
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: in sports talk radio and TV, of trying to define,

1169
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: you know, what a player was, his place in history,

1170
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: et cetera. Oftentimes unfair, oftentimes with blinders on to circumstances

1171
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 2: surrounding you know, some of the decisions that get made.

1172
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: But from Mike Dunleavy Junior and company, you're looking at

1173
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 2: a Western conference and you and I have talked about

1174
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: this a lot towards the end of the season and

1175
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 2: then through these playoffs, Ryan is, you've got a younger,

1176
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 2: younger batch of guys coming up. We talk about all

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01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 2: the veterans being in the play in games at best,

1178
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 2: or missing the playoffs altogether. And it's a laundry list, right.

1179
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: It's that end of a cable movie when they're already

1180
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 2: starting the other one in the picture and picture, so

1181
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: the credits go by really fast. That's the list of

1182
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 2: stars of our NBA history of the last ten to

1183
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 2: fifteen years that really didn't have an impact in the

1184
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 2: playoffs at all. So when we talk about trying to

1185
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: stay with this, this next iteration of the West and

1186
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 2: all these young teams on the come Klay Thompson if

1187
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 2: he can't defend the way Klay Thompson used to do

1188
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: and the shooting marksmanship has dipped, then for the Warriors,

1189
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 2: it would seem that, you know, you start embarking on

1190
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 2: what becomes more nostalgia versus forward thinking, right, unless he's

1191
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: a role player and those minutes get diminished, like it

1192
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 2: is a curious balance that Steve current company have to

1193
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: argue as well of what that next formation of the

1194
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: squad is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think about Chris Paul and you know, I

1196
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,439
Speaker 3: think we all kind of thought that Chris was done

1197
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 3: because you knew the way that he played the game,

1198
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 3: high usage ball in his hands. You know it's going

1199
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 3: to get you twenty and ten a night. Those days

1200
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 3: were over with it. Crystal smart enough to say, hold on, man,

1201
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 3: my value is assisting getting guys in the right spots,

1202
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 3: leadership development. I can change your organization. And he became

1203
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 3: worth every single penny later in age. And you know,

1204
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 3: I think the challenge for Clay is adjusting, you know,

1205
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 3: because a lot of times Clay can kind of get

1206
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 3: angry or get that Clay zone that we've seen and

1207
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 3: he just it's it's it's remarkable, and he's saying, I'm

1208
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: going to kind of figure out am I still that guy?

1209
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 3: Or do I need to adjust? And can my value

1210
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 3: be seen in other places? I may not be the

1211
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 3: defenders you noted that he used to be, But you know,

1212
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 3: how about me getting guys open, are things going smoother?

1213
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 3: What's my effect on the floor and ultimately, you know

1214
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 3: winning And for him it may chime back to, you know,

1215
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 3: developing the guy the group of wings around him. Sorry

1216
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 3: to go ahead, Chris, Chris Paul right, and Shay Gilds

1217
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 3: as Alexander. They're going, wow, this was great for Shay.

1218
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 3: He he kind of got to learn under Chris. It

1219
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 3: sped his development up.

1220
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,919
Speaker 2: There's no question about it. We look at for Chris Paul,

1221
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 2: he's got one more year left on the deal as

1222
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: it currently stands. His name speculated quite often as well

1223
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: of whether he is retained there with the Warriors. A

1224
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: lot of potential movement, and we did actually have a

1225
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,919
Speaker 2: trade that went down this week. We'll break that down

1226
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 2: as it would be. Contender make some moves and shuffles

1227
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 2: up things and I have to raise my hand, going

1228
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: how did you not get more? We'll do that in

1229
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: a minute, but first it's our guy, Isaac loewen Kron.

1230
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,919
Speaker 2: I believe his coffee is kicked in, so let's see

1231
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: what it's good.

1232
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 6: Lord boy, you're not kidding, you are not kidding.

1233
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: His eyes just looked a little wider this hour.

1234
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 6: Not justin Timberlake Wide with that's another story.

1235
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 2: I can't wait. Well, you don't see what. No, but

1236
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: they're trying to smear that the officer that pulled him over.

1237
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: You see this nonsense because the guy's being, you know,

1238
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 2: diligent about potentially impaired drivers out there. He's got a

1239
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 2: family history and and that's been one of the hallmarks

1240
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 2: of his early tenure as a police officer, saying he

1241
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 2: was over, he was too aggressive.

1242
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 6: Ryan, you would know this the best. Wouldn't that officer

1243
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 6: make a good NBA referee someday?

1244
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 3: Dude? I mean really, I'm just I'm.

1245
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 6: Just saying I'm getting I'm getting Scott Foster vibes.

1246
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 8: If I got that strike, sir, he's been drinking tonight.

1247
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 6: Unfortunately not. I'll tell you who was obviously not. That

1248
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 6: was Show Toddy. On Saturday night for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

1249
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 6: He homered for a third consecutive game for a second

1250
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 6: consecutive game. It was against the Los Angeles Angels seven

1251
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 6: to two. Is twenty third home run of the season

1252
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 6: to lead the National League. This one traveled four hundred

1253
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 6: and fifty nine feet. It was his second straight game

1254
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 6: with a home run of four hundred and fifty feet

1255
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,759
Speaker 6: or longer and his sixth home run of four hundred

1256
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 6: and fifty feet or longer this season. Meanwhile, on the mound,

1257
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 6: Dodger starting pitcher Killian Murphy. Excuse me, I mean Dodger

1258
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 6: starting pitcher Tyler Glass.

1259
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 8: They got that, Isaac. No, it looks like uncanny.

1260
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 2: It's the word I just stay from me in Yeah,

1261
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen this Ryan Killian Murphy

1262
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 2: of Oppenheimer and the Peaky Blinders. I don't think I

1263
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 2: could say it without the blanket in it, can I?

1264
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 8: Glass now looks like a professional athlete, but like a

1265
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 8: model version of Killian Murphy.

1266
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 6: You know it's it's remarkable. Well he he was flawless,

1267
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 6: just like Killian Murphy's performances. No walks, ten strikeouts and

1268
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 6: seven innings for the win Rockies Riley for two in

1269
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 6: the bottom of that n I'm thinking to beat the

1270
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 6: Nationals eight to seven, winning run scored on the first

1271
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 6: first walk off pitchclock violation in Major League history on

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Speaker 6: Koa the.

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Speaker 7: Pitch time called time violation, pitchclock violation on Finnigan.

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Speaker 2: And that's the game.

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Speaker 6: Yankees over the Braves, eight to three Aaron Judges Major

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01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 6: League leading twenty eighth on Ron John Carlos Stanton left

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Speaker 6: that game due to left hamstrings tightness and is scheduled

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 6: to undergo imaging today. Today's action gets underway at eleven

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Speaker 6: thirty five Eastern is the Phillies host the Arizona Diamondbacks

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Speaker 6: in a rematch of last year's National League Championship Series.

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Speaker 6: Mike and Ryan, thank you for humoring me back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 3: That's two strikes.

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Speaker 6: Ilo, you have to understand that I'm going for the

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Speaker 6: third strike. I'm I'm I'm just agitating today for any

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01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 6: challenge has been issued. Ripped Houston, I've ripped justin Timberlake. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I need to cut down to the coffee baseball.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Ilo at Isaac Low and crowd check him out.

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Speaker 2: Part of the Chargers team coverage as well as Angel

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Speaker 2: City FC play by play lost last night, but Ilo

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Speaker 2: standing out as always. Yeah, the Timberlake thing obviously a

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Speaker 2: serious situation. Folks. You know best be smart on the

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Speaker 2: highways and byways, and and hopefully if he needs a

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Speaker 2: little bit of help, that he finds the strength of

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Speaker 2: the people around him to get it. I mean, in

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Speaker 2: all seriousness, because I seen some pretty crazy punchlines rolling

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Speaker 2: through in clapbacks as the week war on. Not so

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Speaker 2: much as the the Kendrick Lamar stuff the other night

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01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 2: that got well. I mean, look, I tease the the

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01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 2: Caruso and Giddy trade, but that requires much longer than

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Speaker 2: we have time for right now. I just thought it

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01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 2: was curious, especially the meme that was going around with

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01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 2: someone from the third deck taking a shot of Lebron

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01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 2: and Savannah and putting the caps going you know, you know,

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01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 2: you gotta be careful here, and then others going, hey,

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01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: remember when hey, he was hanging out with Drake after

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Speaker 2: Brownie had his medical incident. So yeah, just an interesting timeline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that, you know. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 3: know what to say.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would say this, and you know, the summary

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01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 2: statement to it. For me, though, is watching the video

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01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 2: from that Kendrick Lamar concert and everything and all the

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01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 2: clips throughout the night, folks on stage and all one.

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01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 2: I was wondering what the net worth of everybody was there,

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01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 2: because that was an impressive collection of people. But the

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Speaker 2: bigger thing, Ryan is it's something I preach a lot.

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Speaker 2: People have heard this. If you in my sermon from

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01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 2: the Mount here on Sunday mornings. For a long long time.

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01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 2: Live music saves your soul. And it's the one thing

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01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 2: that you know, that's why we love sports and we

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01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 2: love music is that you know it'll bring people together.

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01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean that you're not necessarily warring with other people

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01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 2: in genre or whatever else. I'm talking about just the

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01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: togetherness of the twenty thousand people there. So that's all.

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Speaker 2: That's what I take from it. The positivity, the unity,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. All the other stuff with Drake, well, you

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Speaker 2: know that's for other folks to chop up another time.

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Speaker 3: You're unbelievable, man, You're unbelievable.

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01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 2: Come on, I made that positivity right there.

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01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 3: I love it. The Bluds and the crips got along

1331
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 3: that night, So that's what That's what's important. So people

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01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 3: did come together.

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01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 2: Hey man, When people can come together in any way,

1334
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,799
Speaker 2: shape or form for a few hours in this society anymore,

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01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to celebrate the hell out of it.

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Speaker 3: Ryan, Well, it is in the West Coast. Just need

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01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 3: a little beef to rally together. And you know, Kidsrick

1338
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 3: song is so popular. You got I've seen a kid

1339
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 3: you not Mike. I've seen it in old people's homes.

1340
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 3: I've seen children wrapping it at elementaries. I mean, it is,

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01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 3: it is. It's a lot. It's a lot, and I

1342
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 3: hope everything stays in the spirit of art exactly fun

1343
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:18,440
Speaker 3: and you know there's some resolve at some point one

1344
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 3: but in context, those two have been taking shots at

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01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 3: each other for a long time.

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01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And then Wednesday was something something else, no

1347
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 2: question about it. He's Ryan Hollins at the Ryan Hollins.

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Speaker 2: I'm over at Swollen Dome. Coming up next, we turn

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01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: our attention to Major League Baseball. No, no, no, we've

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01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 2: already talked about the pitch clock. No, We've got something

1351
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: else because it's just a general etiquette and enjoyment kind

1352
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 2: of talk, and it's all about positivity on a Sunday morning,

1353
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 2: He's Ryan, I'm Mike. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Little

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01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 2: Gary Clark Jr. I think I identified that right, Ryan Hollins.

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01:13:59,160 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 2: What do I get?

1356
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 3: Ah? You get uh? You gentlemen's smoothing.

1357
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 2: I thank you Gene Wilder for chiming in Fox Sports

1358
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 2: Radios Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carbon alongside Ryan Hollins having

1359
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 2: some fun with you next hour, We've got Austin Reeves

1360
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 2: on his new coach, we got Caruso for Giddy, and

1361
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 2: so much more as we roll through another hour here

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01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 2: on a beautiful Fox Sports Sunday with our crew, Iowa say,

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01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,879
Speaker 2: I'm in this morning alongside our guy Ian, our executive producer,

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01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: and of course Isaac Loewenkron on the update. This one

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01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: was kind of funny to me, Ryan, because it's a

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01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 2: long held tenant that I have in the wonderful world

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01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,480
Speaker 2: of sports. And if you go sit in the bleachers

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01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: at Wrigley Field, well there's always the push. Should you

1369
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,799
Speaker 2: catch a home run ball to where you were yelled

1370
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 2: at and cajoled, well, throw it back the Mets announcers.

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 2: After Francisco Alvarez hits a solo home run that's we're

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01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: down six nothing, but goes to left center field. You know,

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01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 2: the guy fires, gets fired up, and the Mets announcers

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01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 2: fired back for the fan.

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01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 9: Flyball deep left field looking up as Pete Crow Armstrong

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01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 9: and Francisco Alvarez for the second straight day with a

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01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,520
Speaker 9: solo home run and the Mets are on the board.

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01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 2: Wow, they made him.

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01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 3: That is you know what that is too?

1380
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 9: Much peer pressure, grow a spine man obviously not a leader.

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01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 2: So he throws it back onto the field because you know,

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01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: you have to return. As they call it, the trash

1383
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 2: of an opposing player. Dude, unless you're that guy that

1384
01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 2: makes his life's effort to go in and steal home

1385
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: run balls from children and people running section to section

1386
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: and showing up at every event, like how often are

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01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:07,879
Speaker 2: you going to catch.

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01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 3: A home run?

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01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 10: No, your squad all this stuff, like, I'm not throwing

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01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 10: that thing back, Like I agree with Ron Darling gross buying.

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01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the players are making or the fans.

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01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 2: The fans get after you, not the players. Players are

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01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: you know, hoping you just because well the players are

1394
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 2: hoping you don't because if it comes back on the field,

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01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 2: if you don't have a good arm or good aim,

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01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 2: you know, you might have you know, some incoming on

1397
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: you there. We've seen that before.

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01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 3: You're just jealous, That's that's what's going on. But it's okay,

1399
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 3: So it enlightened me. Is this a tradition that.

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01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: So it's a long standing tradition. Again, it's the like, well,

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01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: it's trash. You know, you don't you don't want the

1402
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: home run ball from the opponent, dismissiveness whatever, it's not.

1403
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 3: Let me say this. If you're gonna keep that tradition out,

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01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:06,759
Speaker 3: which is a good tradition, I get it, you gotta

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01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 3: compensate in some way and say, oh no, we're gonna

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01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 3: let you meet the players. We're gonna bring you back, say,

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01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 3: and we'll give you one of our balls.

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01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: But a team thing. If you're gonna you gotta give it,

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01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 2: but the team's not giving taking it from you. Yeah,

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01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 2: you're giving it back like a dope willingly because some

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01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 2: drunk jackass next to you says you're gonna throw that back.

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01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 3: Man, what I'm saying is stand up to them. I

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01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 3: get it. You don't want the other team's balls, so

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01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 3: you got to take the home team's balls, and the

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01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 3: home team it's a it's a pretty cool tradition to say, Hey,

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01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 3: we don't condone so you know, I think in fairness,

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01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 3: they got to give the you know, the ball back,

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01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,759
Speaker 3: you know, or do something, because then fans won't feel

1419
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 3: like what we're debating of why would you give that back?

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01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 3: It's a once in a lifetime opportunity.

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01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 2: You start going to the left fielder or center right,

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01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, buddy, I'm gonna do this now. Can

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01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: I get that back? Lead? Can we hemp this up?

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01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 2: It's got a funny a tradition that I've just never understood,

1425
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 2: you know, participating in and acquiescing something.

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01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 3: I can tell what you're doing. If you you catch

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01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 3: a ball, I'm giving that ball back.

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01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 2: They're so rare, the opportunity to catch and not potentially

1429
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 2: get elbowed in the face. I mean a lot of

1430
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 2: times you're scrapping for for a baseball that comes into

1431
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 2: the stage, particularly if you're in the bleachers of a

1432
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 2: Wrigley field, right, it's something if the guy's got to

1433
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 2: get out of his actual seat, you know. Sometimes now

1434
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 2: you get a little bit of help there.

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01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 3: Do you agree with me now that it would be

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01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 3: fair if hey throw back the trash right and we'll

1437
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 3: do something nice. We'll get you something special of equal value,

1438
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,799
Speaker 3: and you'll feel more comfortable, you know, keeping the tradition

1439
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 3: up because I'm with it. Hey, man, forget the other team.

1440
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 3: We don't we don't celebrate.

1441
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 2: That, right, but I'm keeping it. It's a prize for

1442
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 2: me paying.

1443
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 3: Is if you had a chance to get something of

1444
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 3: equal that should the team put up something of equal value,

1445
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 3: so the fans feel more like, hey, let's you know,

1446
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,759
Speaker 3: we're going to keep this tradition going.

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01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose you know there could be something to it. Again,

1448
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 2: I go back just to grow the spine thing. Nobody's

1449
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 2: forcing you to do this unless you're being threatened, which

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01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 2: might be the case too. Hey do you don't throw

1451
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 2: that ball back?

1452
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 3: Man?

1453
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: You know how we do it here? Oh wait, I

1454
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 2: don't remember ever on the back of my ticket. I

1455
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 2: know I can be photographed. I know I've got to

1456
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 2: you know, leave balls and play and not, you know,

1457
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 2: interfere in the game. I don't remember anything. If it's saying, hey,

1458
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 2: here's the caveat if you catch an opponent's home run,

1459
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 2: you have to throw it back. You can all beat it.

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Speaker 2: For By the way, in your analysis, I believe you

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Speaker 2: gave us a drop or a promo. Perhaps he's Ryan Hollins.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mike Harmon. Coming up next, shurt our attention back

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Speaker 2: to the Lakers hiring and one guy who's gonna be

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Speaker 2: full day of action ahead, College World Series, more Olympic Trials,

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Speaker 2: some photos, doing some good works, broadcasting stuff. Houston Rockets

1481
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 2: ten years in the league. Eventually, I'm gonna get you

1482
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 2: to watch Clipped, and you and I will compare notes

1483
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: and do a deep dive on it, because now we're

1484
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 2: in the heart of the matter and you're still, you know,

1485
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 2: blissfully ignorant of what's going on on this series.

1486
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 3: You like me? Are you locked in on Clipped? Oh?

1487
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? As soon as it's available, and I've got a

1488
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: free moment. Bam, let's go.

1489
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what's real and what was embellished. I'll

1490
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 3: do that.

1491
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: Oh, there's gonna be plenty. I'm sure you've already we

1492
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 2: had a couple. You haven't even had to watch a

1493
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 2: frame of it.

1494
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 9: WHOA.

1495
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 3: Everybody's convinced that Doc was like taking these personal family

1496
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 3: jabs that dudes turn practice, like just completely over the line.

1497
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 2: No, oh, that was but the scene was so great. Well,

1498
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: he was like running around like he was a great comedian,

1499
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: Like I thought he was gonna whip on a microphone

1500
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: and all right, I'm done with you. What are you

1501
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 2: chuckling at over there? Let's go.

1502
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 3: It's still can't get over Laurence Fishburn going, I had

1503
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 3: no idea who Doc Rivers is amazing, right, I don't

1504
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 3: watch sports. And then he goes, yeah, I invited him

1505
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 3: over for a barbecue.

1506
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 2: What Yeah, he shows up to a labor day outing

1507
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 2: and he sat and watched him. What was it? Wynton

1508
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 2: Marsalis was at the story. He told Dan Patrick on

1509
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 2: the network. Yeah, he goes, I picked up his uh

1510
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 2: cadences and his speech from listening to he and Wynton

1511
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 2: Marsalis talk about Bill Russell just crazy. But again, like

1512
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 2: in doing that, you know one he is an actor,

1513
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 2: So I take it all with a grain of salt.

1514
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:49,679
Speaker 2: But ponder that, right, how old is Laurence Fishburn? Anybody

1515
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: know anybody after Lawrence Fishburn? If you're listening, dial it up,

1516
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 2: you got the hotline. Lawrence Fishburn is sixty two years old. Okay,

1517
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 2: And look, I am readily acknowledged. I have plenty of

1518
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 2: blind spots in this world. I don't pay a lot

1519
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 2: of attention to political rhetoric. You know, it gets the

1520
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 2: boiling for everybody. I know enough to be informed. But

1521
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not leaning into a channel and dialing

1522
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 2: it up if you do good on you uh, you

1523
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 2: know sports talk radio and TV. I'm not consuming a

1524
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 2: ton of it. We talked about it with the inside

1525
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: the NBA. Normally I'm in the studio getting ready for

1526
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 2: a show, so there's there's no sound. So what Charles

1527
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 2: and Kenny and anybody in Shack and Ernie and everybody

1528
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 2: have to say, I'll get in clips later kind of

1529
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 2: a best of Like it's not appointment viewing for me.

1530
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 2: All the stuff from the Carnival Barkers, and you know

1531
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 2: who I speak of. In our sports media world, I

1532
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 2: don't pay attention until it's brought to my table. Music whatever.

1533
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 2: We all have our genres of music we listen to.

1534
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 2: You try to get outside and more all encompassing as

1535
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 2: you can, et cetera. But to go and be sixty

1536
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 2: two years old in the entertainment field and we know

1537
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 2: how the you are inextricably linked, right, entertainment and sports.

1538
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:20,719
Speaker 2: To not know who Doc Rivers was a man who's

1539
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 2: been involved in a lot of stuff. I mean he's

1540
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 2: been at the you know what, we had a front

1541
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 2: row seat to a lot of big things that Lawrence

1542
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 2: Fishburn didn't know who he was.

1543
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 3: You know what.

1544
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 2: I kind of aspired to that.

1545
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 3: How about to this too? How about to this too?

1546
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 3: Doc Rivers is probably the most emulated voice, right, and

1547
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 3: I'm a coach. Right, everybody does that, you know at

1548
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 3: some point someone's you know, tried it or whatever. You know,

1549
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 3: So it was double. It was double because everybody has

1550
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 3: a Doc impression.

1551
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 2: Like everybody know, it's not flex fault, it's not plex fault.

1552
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 3: That's what all of us.

1553
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 2: Jamie Fox with that one Smith does one he tries

1554
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 2: on our show seven to eleven Pacific Jason Smith and

1555
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 2: I hear on the network Monday through Friday. But you know,

1556
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,719
Speaker 2: everybody's had that impressions, Like nobody ran one of those

1557
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 2: in all these years. I mean Doc won the title

1558
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight.

1559
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 4: Man, well, he.

1560
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 3: Says he doubled it. He said. It's not just he

1561
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 3: said he's not a sports fan. No.

1562
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 2: I get that that is hard, but it still seems

1563
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 2: like some of the men we don't soak into your

1564
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: brain somehow, right, conversations around you.

1565
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 3: You don't watch TV, you don't have social media, you

1566
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 3: don't you know, he's he's People are like, he really

1567
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 3: isn't a patrix.

1568
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is my five year plan. You know though,

1569
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 2: oh god, stop it, dude, and disappear.

1570
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:56,520
Speaker 3: Stop it.

1571
01:25:56,680 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 2: But having a harmy no idea, no hello, oh yes,

1572
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 2: I thought that was funny as hell. So, like I've

1573
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 2: been entertained by it. The some very serious things, uh,

1574
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 2: and the discussions and certainly beyond the Clippers, going back

1575
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 2: to housing policies, procedures, et cetera. Uh, you know, there's

1576
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: some other other stuff to to do, some history reading,

1577
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 2: and that's you know, we always encourage folks go back

1578
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 2: and and find the books, find find the the articles,

1579
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 2: the history as you can, like Rick Wood as well,

1580
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 2: you know, the the game they played this this past

1581
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 2: week celebrated on Fox. Or you're gonna say, Ryan, I'm sorry.

1582
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 3: I will ask one thing, hit me? Does anyone do

1583
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 3: I say anything? Have I said anything on the show yet?

1584
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 2: Well we've been talking for two hours.

1585
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, dude, to talk about clip No.

1586
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 2: No, no, not about clip No.

1587
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 3: No. I haven't said it anything yet. So I'm just

1588
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 3: there looking.

1589
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty much it. Your guy hasn't I don't

1590
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 2: think he's had a line.

1591
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 3: Oh god, he's there getting a little more airtime though.

1592
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 3: Or is it a hit and miss?

1593
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 2: Well it's hit miss because I mean, you got some

1594
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: good basketball scenes, but let's face it, it's it's more about

1595
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 2: the legal wranglings and the Stiviano and and and all

1596
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 2: that background. So this last last episode did a lot

1597
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 2: of the history lessons, you know for Doc Rivers and uh,

1598
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: going going back to the riots in l A and

1599
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 2: and everything and discussing that point, Stiviano's origin story before

1600
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 2: meeting Donald Sterling, all of that. We we got some

1601
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 2: some of that this last time. So not. The players

1602
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 2: weren't in as much this one.

1603
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like everybody wants the player. The

1604
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 3: player scenes, the practice scenes are the money.

1605
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 2: Well, the practice scene was just fantastic. I mean he

1606
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 2: was playing dozens with guys. I mean as really was

1607
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: what are you smiling at over there? And his best

1608
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 2: doc So yeah, no, the practice stuff, the game in

1609
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 2: game stuff, you know, a lot of laughs at the

1610
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 2: casting and representations and like anything, You're not gonna find

1611
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 2: the carbon copy for a Ryan Owens or Steph Curry

1612
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 2: or a Clay Thompson, but some of them have left

1613
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 2: the Internet in stitches. There's no question about it. Now,

1614
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 2: if we make a TV show or a documentary about

1615
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 2: the next iteration of Lakers basketball, it seems like, at

1616
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 2: least for the moment I'll talk of, hey, this is

1617
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 2: one of your tradeable assets, it dies down a little bit.

1618
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves was asked about the arrival of JJ Reddick

1619
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 2: as his new coach, and he had some glowing things

1620
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: to say about JJ Reddick as we go go into

1621
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 2: this next iteration of Lakers ball.

1622
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 11: Yeah, I've gotten to know Jaja a little bit, you know,

1623
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 11: going on this podcast during the middle of the year.

1624
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 11: Is a basketball genius, I think, as everybody knows, and

1625
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 11: I think he's gonna make a good coach and I

1626
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 11: can't wait to get to.

1627
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 3: Work with him.

1628
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 11: He actually text me yesterday I wanted to get on

1629
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 11: a call, so, like I said, I just can't wait to,

1630
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 11: you know, put our brains together and you know go,

1631
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 11: you know, have a good year.

1632
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 2: Basketball genius there, Ryan Hollins.

1633
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 3: That's pretty strong. Basketball genius is strong.

1634
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 2: That was the I really anticipate a much larger role

1635
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 2: for me in this next season.

1636
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 3: I like it. Me look at you man, man.

1637
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: I got to read into it because a little bit

1638
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,719
Speaker 2: of it sing song, but that's kind of Austin Reeves cadence.

1639
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,639
Speaker 2: But just you know, you call the guy a genius,

1640
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,719
Speaker 2: not only are you buttering him up, but you're also

1641
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 2: whatever those conversations were color me intrigued as to what

1642
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 2: the direction of the offense may become.

1643
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 3: And I do want to say this to be clear,

1644
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 3: I think some of the the Clearly, it was a

1645
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 3: good move because it worked out, but I think some

1646
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 3: of the frustration. If I'm gonna be fair, and I

1647
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 3: like Jjjj's my guy, former teammate, that's my dude.

1648
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 2: But I guess it.

1649
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 3: Was the the questions of the way things were run

1650
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 3: and they don't need to be a secret. But on

1651
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 3: the podcast, so you know, hey, you guys didn't do this.

1652
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 3: You didn't do that, you know, and if that's something

1653
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 3: that you appeal to be a part of, that's what

1654
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 3: didn't look necessary. I think that's what frustrated you know,

1655
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 3: people in that It wasn't just having the part he

1656
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 3: was going, well, hey, also, you guys don't do this,

1657
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 3: you didn't do that. Well, we could do this different

1658
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 3: or that different, you know, that's what you know, It

1659
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 3: seemed unnecessarily like, hey, you know you could have That's

1660
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 3: the problem in the job that I think that I

1661
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 3: see in the frustration that you know people see. If

1662
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 3: I'm Darvin Ham looking, you know, hey, you didn't cut

1663
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 3: the question the way you know I ran things. You

1664
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 3: could have just you know, did your own interview you know, no.

1665
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 2: Sure, And that's I guess to take that part of it, right,

1666
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 2: Darvin Ham. The timing of it has been called out

1667
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 2: in questioned a bunch and look is the time. It's

1668
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 2: like anything in life, I mean, is the timing ever

1669
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 2: write right? Anything? You hope it is right. Hey, we're

1670
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,520
Speaker 2: gonna have a kid, all right. Do we have stability

1671
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,640
Speaker 2: in this that the other? I don't know. While buy

1672
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 2: a house again, do we have stability and this that

1673
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 2: the other? I mean, you can always argue yourself out

1674
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 2: of some of these large decisions, likewise, you know, starting

1675
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 2: business ventures, partnerships, whatever, all of those are. Well, it's

1676
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 2: a hot button topic. Let's go. And in this case,

1677
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 2: you know, for many it was you know, surmised that

1678
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 2: you know that Jane and Reddick had a long standing relationship.

1679
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 2: We've talked to folks Dan Woiki of the La Times

1680
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 2: and others that you know, they knew each other, but

1681
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 2: did they really you know, know each other kind of

1682
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 2: thing except for doing this this podcast run basketball x's

1683
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 2: and o's and IQ and you know, did it put

1684
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 2: Darvin Ham in a bad light? Is one of the

1685
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 2: questions that comes back out of it. I would hope

1686
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 2: to hell that it's survived, because I think that would

1687
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 2: be a fun little you know, hard knocks from a

1688
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 2: much different kind of decision making. Poet and JJ Redick

1689
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:32,600
Speaker 2: and Lebron James will still doing this all right. We

1690
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:35,799
Speaker 2: went out of three three game losing skid. This week, Lebron,

1691
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 2: let's talk about it. Come on, let me in the

1692
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 2: doors of that one.

1693
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 3: We just never seen it ever from a coach. Yeah,

1694
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 3: that's great, Like we've never seen it from a coach,

1695
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 3: and I think that that's the big difference, like a

1696
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 3: coach being a part of it, that that is different. Yeah,

1697
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 3: it's different. Well you know what, hey, hey, right, sorry,

1698
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 3: go ahead from You're right from our standpoint, Oh, that's gold.

1699
01:32:58,640 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 3: That would be gold.

1700
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,759
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, Like you know, let's basically do film review

1701
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 2: for a nationwide audience of what went right? What went wrong?

1702
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 2: I mean, that's one that would actually be appointment viewing

1703
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 2: for me, as opposed to the soporadic five minute listen

1704
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 2: now and again based on what someone clipped off that

1705
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 2: they thought was the interesting bits, as it were. But

1706
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 2: as a guy that's been around the league as long

1707
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 2: as you have, Ryan, I mean, what does this hiring mean.

1708
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:27,759
Speaker 2: Is there a bit of a celebration amongst ex players

1709
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 2: because I know from the long standing coach tree kind

1710
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:33,560
Speaker 2: of thing, there's been a lot of handwringing.

1711
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 12: I think JJ, it's just that the Duke Blue Devil

1712
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:44,799
Speaker 12: kind of entitlement mindset that people are.

1713
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:49,640
Speaker 3: Gonna kind of JJ. You know, like like JJ is hardworking,

1714
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 3: he's a grinder. He's got universal respect in every locker

1715
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 3: room he's been in, and if you don't know him,

1716
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 3: you don't know that. But from the outside, he's this

1717
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 3: you know, Duke Blue devil, golden boy that everybody's cheered

1718
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 3: against the losing. When he was in college, everybody hacked

1719
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 3: him up because he averaged twenty eight points a game

1720
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 3: and said he'd never be anything in the NBA, and

1721
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 3: he ended up being really darned good. Now, he clearly

1722
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 3: wasn't the star of the league, but as far as

1723
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 3: a role player, a guy who did his job, JJ's

1724
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 3: hit huge shots. He's always been ready, he's improved. Man,

1725
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 3: he's a pro. So, you know, he's as certified as

1726
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 3: they come from that standpoint. Has he won a championship, No,

1727
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:32,480
Speaker 3: he didn't, but he's definitely No, he's not as qualified

1728
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 3: as some Hall of Famer that might step in. A

1729
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 3: lot of times, hall of famers aren't good head coaches.

1730
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:39,679
Speaker 3: It's the role players that are good. So he's kind

1731
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 3: of prepped in that standpoint. And he's not a guy

1732
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 3: who had never played the game before, you know, but

1733
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 3: the biggest thing is someone that Lebron is going to respect,

1734
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 3: you know, and I think JJ is going to be that.

1735
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 3: But I get the understanding where the eyebrowns raised and

1736
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 3: I will say, hey, for me if I'm dark and

1737
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 3: have them going, dude, you didn't need to do that,

1738
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 3: you know, you didn't need to kind of raise questions

1739
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 3: the way we did things that did things my way

1740
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 3: and you can do things your way, you know, and

1741
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 3: you know, hey, I don't even know if maybe when

1742
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 3: the podcast started, we assume JJ this whole time had

1743
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 3: an idea of being the coach, but maybe they got

1744
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 3: to talk and he's like, look, this is something that

1745
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 3: I want to do. But maybe that wasn't his intent.

1746
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 2: Who knows no, And that's certainly part of the question.

1747
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,799
Speaker 2: Right he had talked to a couple of teams, reportedly

1748
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 2: Right Toronto being one of them in the past, so

1749
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:32,679
Speaker 2: we know it was at least on the radar as

1750
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 2: an ambition, and then you fast forward it and part

1751
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 2: of it, I think just still comes down to the

1752
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 2: Laker brand and what it means, like even if it's

1753
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 2: been a diminished product many of the years, like they're

1754
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,600
Speaker 2: still relevant because you're talking about them it's like the Cowboys.

1755
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 2: People get mad. It's like, if it didn't move the

1756
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 2: needle one way or another, people positively or negatively, we

1757
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,759
Speaker 2: wouldn't talk about it. That's just the way this medium

1758
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 2: works for the Lakers, Like if he'd been hired, Like

1759
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 2: if he be Manti Williams gets fired and he becomes

1760
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 2: the next Pistons coach, does anybody bad an eye?

1761
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 3: I think so when from the media, well, here's the

1762
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 3: thing that I will maybe if I'm if I'm gonna

1763
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:19,640
Speaker 3: be fair. Steve Kerr, you know, was calling games, you know,

1764
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 3: and JJ was you know, hey on first take, you know,

1765
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 3: and then podcasting, So maybe it's different, but it's it's

1766
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 3: a completely different era right now that we see. And

1767
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:35,640
Speaker 3: again JJ always has the entitled crown because he's a

1768
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 3: Duke Blue devil, and people felt like everything was handed

1769
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 3: to them and their teams were good, and it seemed like,

1770
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 3: you know, they just kind of had that you know,

1771
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 3: the whistle of the referee in the hometown crowd and

1772
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 3: you know, they you know, it's what it was going.

1773
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 2: That's a lot of latent hate that guy's been going

1774
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 2: from them. And Duke's not Duke anymore either, the same

1775
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 2: hatred level. Uh. And for Steve Kerr, I would I

1776
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 2: would defend him down, not only because he hit big

1777
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 2: shots for my beloved Bolts, but he did hang around

1778
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 2: Jackson and Popovich for a very long time. That's got

1779
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 2: to count for something, being in those rooms with those

1780
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 2: guys for years. He's Ryan Hollins. I'm buy garment here.

1781
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio is Fox Sports Sunday coming up next.

1782
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 2: We did have a trade involving the aforemenngined bulls. I

1783
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 2: gotta ask, how do they not get more? We'll talk

1784
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 2: about that next year on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back

1785
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 2: in It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday by Carmen

1786
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 2: alongside Ryan Hollins, having a blast with you as we

1787
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 2: roll through the sporting universe. Podcast goes up at the

1788
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 2: end of the show. Our guy Ian Roddy, our executive producer,

1789
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 2: will put it up. So if you missed Andy I

1790
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 2: have it, be sure to check it out search Fox

1791
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Wherever you get your podcast, be sure to follow,

1792
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,679
Speaker 2: rate and review it. Search Fox Sports Radio, Fine, Fox

1793
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 2: Sports Weekends, Holland's and Harmon and you'll see this show

1794
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 2: listed there. Right after we get off and then you

1795
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 2: go in evangelize friends, family. I mean, we're building a

1796
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 2: universe here globally, Ryan Hollins. This next week, I'll travel

1797
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 2: internationally and I'll have a picture of you on a shirt.

1798
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,759
Speaker 2: I'll make sure it's you and not your friend from clipped.

1799
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 2: You get proper representation globally.

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01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 3: And I'll make sure you get a drop on the network.

1801
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, Hollins, Harmon.

1802
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 3: We'll get a drop and we'll like, we'll have cool

1803
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 3: stuff that we say that will, you know, be played

1804
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 3: over and over again. Now I have no power, absolutely

1805
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,759
Speaker 3: at all to control that, you know, But I'm selling

1806
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 3: it is.

1807
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 2: I do get in there and sell, sell, sell, that's

1808
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 2: what it's all about. I'll probably smoke some meat and

1809
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 2: got that too. There are there are a lot of

1810
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:42,639
Speaker 2: random one off quotes for me. Yeah what else you got,

1811
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 2: Sam in the Harmon soundboard.

1812
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 8: The rest is probably not appropriate for Sunday morning.

1813
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, wow, that's I don't think I've ever said

1814
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 2: anything quite that offensive.

1815
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 8: But don't go there, you never know, don't make me

1816
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 8: go there.

1817
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 2: Uh yeah sounds nice stuff. I don't even know what

1818
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 2: he's talking about, but yeah, I don't know, But you

1819
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 2: know what you do a lot of radio, You say

1820
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,759
Speaker 2: a lot of things. I'd hugue, but you're not wearing pants.

1821
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 2: Well there's that.

1822
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 8: That's you know, Jason, that one's still kind of PG.

1823
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 8: But we don't want to go any for that.

1824
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 2: No, that's beautiful. Again. I'll have to go figure out

1825
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:20,599
Speaker 2: what the hell is in the soundboard a little bit later. Hey,

1826
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 2: we had a trade in the NBA. We're expecting a

1827
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 2: very busy couple of weeks here, Ryan, as we get

1828
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 2: towards free agency and the next calendar year in the league,

1829
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 2: you'll have the opt outs. One. That's kind of curious

1830
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 2: here in LA. We'll get your thoughts on that in

1831
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 2: a minute. But I think Dre that went down. Alex

1832
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 2: Cruso goes to the Oklahoma City Thunder nine to one

1833
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 2: on your odds board for the NBA title. Josh Giddy,

1834
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 2: twenty one years old, has embroiled in some off the

1835
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 2: court kind of discussion, and we'll push that to the

1836
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 2: side here for the moment. Talk about it as the

1837
01:39:56,840 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 2: basketball trade that it is. Twenty one years old, good passer,

1838
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 2: six ' nine guard Caruso, glue guy, one of those favorites.

1839
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:10,560
Speaker 2: There was some whispers a while back, hey, maybe he

1840
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 2: goes back to the Lakers. A lot of suitors, a

1841
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 2: lot of trade offers in for Carusa that were out there,

1842
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 2: maybe multiple draft picks and a player instead. It's a

1843
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 2: straight up deal Cruso to oka See. And I just

1844
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 2: have to ask this, Ryan as a handed off to

1845
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 2: you for the and Lovitia for the giant analysis. Okay

1846
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 2: See has some multiple dozen picks here in the next

1847
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 2: few drafts. How do the Bulls not at least secure

1848
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 2: one of those.

1849
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 3: Well, you know, without Lonzo Ball being able to play,

1850
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 3: they've been looking for a big guard to get easy opportunities.

1851
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,640
Speaker 3: So this was a plug and play trade. And the

1852
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 3: thing is, people were not guarding Giddy in the playoffs.

1853
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 3: It was kind of hard to keep them on the floor.

1854
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 3: The core. He's the only one that still kind of,

1855
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 3: you know, really struggles to shoot the basketball. So it

1856
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 3: really ended up being a fit. And I think they

1857
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 3: wanted when they traded for Gordon Hayward. It's kind of

1858
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 3: what they wanted. And I think they're saying, hey, we're

1859
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 3: gonna run this back and we'll see if this Caruso trade,

1860
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 3: you know, makes sense. And you know, Chicago's going. Giddy's young,

1861
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 3: he's still he's not even remotely close to you know,

1862
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:32,760
Speaker 3: how how good he's going to be. So I think

1863
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 3: it ends up working on both sides. And you know,

1864
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 3: they really wanted the youth of Geiney. There's a lot

1865
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 3: of value still there. He's a big guard, he can

1866
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 3: guard multiple positions, and they got enough shooting. They need

1867
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 3: to guy to you know, move the ball around.

1868
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sam Presty talked about the move, just saying, hey,

1869
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:54,559
Speaker 2: you know, in terms of roles for next year, playing time, minutes,

1870
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 2: shots and role that, you know, they couldn't promise Giddy

1871
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 2: that next step. You mentioned Lonzo Ball and remember when

1872
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 2: he opted into his contract. A lot of concentrations. That's

1873
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 2: why they you negotiated this, okay, the fact that he

1874
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 2: hasn't played for a couple of years. You'd signed a

1875
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 2: deal whereby he was able to opt in for twenty

1876
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 2: one million dollars. Congratulations to Lonzo Ball. That's the union

1877
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 2: doing some good work. Like normally I'm the first guy

1878
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 2: to you know, start pointing fingers and asking questions about

1879
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 2: some of the nose negotiations. But for the players, uh,

1880
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 2: there's a win. It's more so just from the Caruso side,

1881
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 2: I guess when we look at it, Ryan's like thirty

1882
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 2: years old, back to back all defensive team, one, first team,

1883
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 2: one second team, career high ten points. That's fine again

1884
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:46,639
Speaker 2: owing to some of the the injuries that the Bulls had,

1885
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 2: and let's face it that that team was a mess

1886
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 2: this year. But you look at it as as a

1887
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 2: guy who seemed to be pretty coveted out there, right,

1888
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,719
Speaker 2: So even with the upside of Giddy, you know, wondering

1889
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 2: if this was actually the best move they could make. Well,

1890
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 2: you know what for a guy who's not not ready

1891
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:13,919
Speaker 2: and look, you're nowhere near a contender, I guess.

1892
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well for Chicago, you gotta understand they need to

1893
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 3: lean more towards the future. I don't think they have

1894
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 3: a team that's necessarily going to win now Caruso. So yeah,

1895
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 3: Caruso was highly, highly sought after, But I think the

1896
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:29,719
Speaker 3: youth of Giddy and his size really intrigues front offices,

1897
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 3: you know. And then you know, again with the stuff

1898
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,679
Speaker 3: he went through, you know, probably just hey, a guy,

1899
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 3: this guy with a fresh start. They believe there's even

1900
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,519
Speaker 3: you know, better things to come from him, you know,

1901
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 3: And I don't know that details are any any of

1902
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 3: that not our business, you know, But I think that

1903
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 3: that's how they're saying it, that this is a mega

1904
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 3: asset that they have. But you're right, every you see,

1905
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,559
Speaker 3: but again, every team wanted Caruso, but when it probably

1906
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 3: came down to a first round pick or you're another

1907
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 3: certain player, they maybe weren't going to pull that trigger. So, no,

1908
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:01,679
Speaker 3: you weren't getting Caruso for free. Obviously the Lakers wanting

1909
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 3: him back, and they're probably going, we're not gonna swap

1910
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 3: any of those role players you have because he's he

1911
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 3: brings more to the table than they do.

1912
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, the giddy side of it, you know, because I

1913
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 2: saw a lot written about, hey, you know, Caruso's gonna

1914
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 2: want this as a contract, and some of the estimates

1915
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 2: for for eighty or whatever the case may be, it's like,

1916
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 2: well the ghinea well, but giddy at twenty one, Like

1917
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 2: he's already in the league three years and there's still

1918
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 2: a lot of unknowns to his game and he's gonna

1919
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 2: be up for a new deal here in short order.

1920
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 2: So questioning how quickly you'll be able to find out

1921
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 2: what exactly you have, I guess in terms of this

1922
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 2: because DeRozan's gonna be gone. He was part of the

1923
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 2: celebration we talked about last hour on the stage. And

1924
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 2: then you've got Zach Levine, who is, if you're to

1925
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 2: believe the reports, has been shopped to every other team

1926
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 2: in the NBA.

1927
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that yeh, they got to make it work

1928
01:44:56,920 --> 01:45:00,280
Speaker 3: with what they have. So again they said, we got

1929
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 3: a young asset for an older guy who's had some

1930
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 3: injury issues. We're all over it. And okay, see saying, man,

1931
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 3: we got enough youth, we got guys playing, we got

1932
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,840
Speaker 3: to get older, you know, we want to win now.

1933
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 3: Kind of they're good. They're there. They didn't plan we'll

1934
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 3: be there. They've ended up being so good they got

1935
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 3: to get in a win now, you know scenario. And

1936
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:25,600
Speaker 3: again that's what you're seeing with what Caruso brings to

1937
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:28,759
Speaker 3: the table. So I do I think it's a genuine

1938
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 3: trade that you know, this one works for both hides.

1939
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, as we look at it going forward, I mean,

1940
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 2: and with all the assets that they have in terms

1941
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 2: of trade chips, Uh, pretty active week, I would think

1942
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 2: coming ahead here for okay, see, we'll see what Sam

1943
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 2: Prest he's able to pull off as we go, we

1944
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 2: be're amiss if we didn't spend a minute talking about

1945
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 2: the game. A little bit later on, you've got Indiana

1946
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 2: and Chicago meeting up in the w NBA. It's become

1947
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 2: must watch TV, no question. Seems like uh, Sunday Marque games.

1948
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 2: It's like The Red Side and Yankees. Is it on

1949
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:06,600
Speaker 2: ESPN or Fox this week? No, it's both. So the

1950
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 2: WNBA once again, and we keep seeing Caitlin Clark in

1951
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 2: these bigger venues where they go from thirty four one

1952
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 2: hundred seats or four thousand seat spots to seventeen thousand

1953
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 2: and a full sellout. And there's another opportunity. She was

1954
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,679
Speaker 2: at the microphone and goes, surprise, we're not actually playing

1955
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:29,759
Speaker 2: at the United Center. Evidently there was a concert schedule

1956
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 2: and was by someone I'd never heard of.

1957
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 3: Wow.

1958
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:37,440
Speaker 2: Again, it goes back to the Lawrence Fishburn blind spots

1959
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 2: in your in your collective thinking, right, you may not

1960
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:46,719
Speaker 2: follow sports, so you don't have that in your purview.

1961
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 2: This was one where I saw the name and I'm

1962
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 2: gonna try to bring it up here real quick to

1963
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 2: where I just kind of went, huh, never heard of them.

1964
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 2: His name is russ Any idea.

1965
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 3: No, I've never heard of Russ. Only Russ I know

1966
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:02,880
Speaker 3: is Westbrook.

1967
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, a guy named Russ evidently had the United Center.

1968
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:09,679
Speaker 3: Well those are pre done, and sure Russ is paid

1969
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:12,080
Speaker 3: for it enough and advanced that.

1970
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm not him. It sounds like you're blaming Russ. Well,

1971
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 2: I mean, well, but that, but that's the question. This

1972
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 2: guy's selling out the United Center. Normally, I at least

1973
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 2: would have heard of him. So I'm not gonna say

1974
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 2: I would have like been on my radar as a

1975
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 2: you know, a guy that's deep in my playlist, you know,

1976
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 2: top five. It's like here's the Afghan Whigs, followed by

1977
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 2: Mark Lannagan, followed by Russ. I'm just saying I think

1978
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:42,760
Speaker 2: I would have heard his name. If he's to the

1979
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 2: point where he's selling out the UC, That's all I

1980
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 2: was saying. But for Caitlin Clark, she's putting pressure on

1981
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 2: the w NBA. It's like, hey, let's keep working ahead.

1982
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:56,799
Speaker 2: Now we we have proven, we have proof of concept.

1983
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:58,679
Speaker 2: Going back to what we were talking about a little

1984
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 2: bit earlier. You know, when we talk about coaches, we

1985
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:04,559
Speaker 2: talk about different policies and procedure to think we have

1986
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 2: proof of concept that this works. Get us in the

1987
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 2: bigger buildings and we will sell them out.

1988
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 3: That's fair. That's fair.

1989
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 2: Right, well again, you know, and then unfortunately, you know,

1990
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 2: Russ gets you know, caught in the side swipe because

1991
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 2: she just said, well, I don't know their schedule, so

1992
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, how if that could work.

1993
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 2: So he became part of the article because that.

1994
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 3: Russ definitely took astray from you just right there.

1995
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 2: No, no, no, hey, like he may be brilliant. I may

1996
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 2: listen to him on the way home.

1997
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, poor Russ. I mean, yeah, he definitely took astray.

1998
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 3: That was astray.

1999
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 2: Wow he did, I mean he did.

2000
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 3: I mean, you're listen you. I don't think he was malicious.

2001
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 3: But if I'm Russ, I go wow. That Hartman guy,

2002
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 3: I go wow.

2003
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:55,599
Speaker 2: I got mentioned on national sports talk radio and nobody

2004
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 2: knew who the hell I was good for me.

2005
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 3: You know, Russ is like I saw out the United Center.

2006
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 3: Let's see, let's see if if anybody else matches that.

2007
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's actually on something. I would go and see

2008
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 2: it was quote it was you all along tour. I'm in.

2009
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, the U probably is pretty pretty hot.

2010
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, I could get on board. But either way,

2011
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 2: that's the reason they're not at the United Center this

2012
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 2: time around. I mean, no disrespect. It's like anything, everybody's

2013
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 2: got their audience, right. A lot of what we've been

2014
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:30,640
Speaker 2: talking about in the w n B a is, you know,

2015
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:34,320
Speaker 2: people take their sides and get mad and Angel Reeves saying, hey,

2016
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:37,599
Speaker 2: you know there's we're here and we're playing. It's like, yeah,

2017
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 2: Angel Reeves has her fans, Caitlin Clark has her fans.

2018
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 2: W NBA gaining a lot of fans.

2019
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:44,720
Speaker 3: Are you a big Angel rees fan?

2020
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:47,560
Speaker 2: I like her. I like that she'll lean into the

2021
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 2: villain and you know me, I like the post post players.

2022
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 2: No question about it.

2023
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 3: Is she the edgiest w NBA player or I guess

2024
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 3: maybe me. I'm sure there's definitely edgier No.

2025
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 2: And that that's the thing, right, It's it's all about

2026
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 2: what gets covered mainstream because she's been set up real

2027
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:10,559
Speaker 2: or imagined as the you know, a host of villains

2028
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:14,720
Speaker 2: from the Batman world to Batman where Caitlin Clark is right,

2029
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 2: I mean that's how it's been positioned, and you either

2030
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 2: lean in or don't. And it seems like she's leaned

2031
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 2: into it enough to keep it going. I mean, you

2032
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 2: recognize what's good for brand, for building your efforts outside

2033
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:31,599
Speaker 2: of the court, because I mean, she's a double double.

2034
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean, she's not gonna, you know, really change her

2035
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 2: game and you know, starts extending shooting whatever, she's gonna

2036
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 2: work in and around the basket. But she's entertaining as hell.

2037
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 2: Like that squad's pretty entertaining. Not particularly good right now,

2038
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 2: but they've got some players there. So Yeah, for Angel Reese,

2039
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 2: you know, it's all part of the curve. And I

2040
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:55,719
Speaker 2: think for everybody, it's finding out what that new norm

2041
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 2: is in terms of coverage and what it's like to be.

2042
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 2: And she already had it in college to a degree,

2043
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:03,880
Speaker 2: but you know what that spotlight is every time you

2044
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 2: take the court, particularly in these types of matchups, everybody's

2045
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 2: looking for what might just be a good, hard nosed

2046
01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 2: basketball play and trying to infer something else on it.

2047
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:14,680
Speaker 2: Why because it's good for ratings?

2048
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:16,679
Speaker 3: Is it good for the league?

2049
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 8: Though?

2050
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 2: Long well? Short term? Yeah? Long term, I don't know

2051
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 2: how much juice you can squeeze from it.

2052
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 3: Long term, yeah, I mean, I listen, I hate to

2053
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 3: say it, but I mean it is. Controversy is always good. Yeah,

2054
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 3: you know, the popularity. You know, you can't have a

2055
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 3: hero without a villain. And I hate that she's referred

2056
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:43,000
Speaker 3: to as a villain at this point, but you know,

2057
01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 3: I think it's you know, part of it.

2058
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 2: Well, it's right, it's which side you're coming at it from. Cause,

2059
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 2: in a lot of fans' minds, Caitlin Clark's the villain.

2060
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 2: How about that, he's Ryan Hollins. I'm Mike Harmon. This

2061
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. I just blew

2062
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:00,800
Speaker 2: your mind. Let's get it to Isaac glowing crowd who

2063
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 2: promised the hat trick. So here we go. Update from

2064
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 2: the news desk with our guy, I Hilo.

2065
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 6: I'll probably let everybody down as always, but actually, guys,

2066
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 6: it's already been a really busy morning in Major League Baseball.

2067
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 6: The New York Yankees today placed John Carlos Stanton on

2068
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 6: the ten day injured list with a strained left hamstring.

2069
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 6: Major League Baseball this morning has suspended Toronto Blue Jays

2070
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 6: in theater Orelvis Martinez eighty games for violating the ped policy. Martinez,

2071
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,799
Speaker 6: a highly touted prospect who made his major league debut.

2072
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:37,640
Speaker 6: Just this past Friday, Martinez issued a statement through the

2073
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 6: Players Association, reading quote, for the past two years, I've

2074
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 6: been trying to start a family with my girlfriend. We

2075
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 6: were prescribed a treatment which included a medication that unfortunately

2076
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:53,520
Speaker 6: contains a banned substance called klamaphine. I take full responsibility

2077
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 6: for my actions and accept my suspension unquote. Today's action

2078
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 6: already underway. Phillies and Diamondbacks are scoreless at the top

2079
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 6: of the first inning on Saturday night, and the Dodgers

2080
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 6: seven to win over the Angels. Show Hey Otani homered

2081
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 6: for a third straight game. He now has twenty three

2082
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 6: home runs to lead the National League. On the mound,

2083
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:18,439
Speaker 6: Dodgers pitcher Tyler glass Now got the win. In seven innings.

2084
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 6: He struck out ten with no walks. Here's what glass

2085
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 6: Now had to say about his excellent performance.

2086
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 3: We've got one hope.

2087
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 8: All America's industrial minded, scientific innovation connected here in secret laboratory.

2088
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 3: Keep everyone there until its dome up.

2089
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:37,800
Speaker 6: Sorry, guys, I pressed the press the wrong button again.

2090
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 6: Those buttons were right next to each other. Let's try

2091
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:40,599
Speaker 6: that again.

2092
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,240
Speaker 2: I spent the last few You've been feeling good.

2093
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 9: I think the curve ball helped me out a lot tonight,

2094
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 9: just being able to drop it in for strikes and

2095
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 9: then bounce it later.

2096
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:48,680
Speaker 2: But every inning tonight.

2097
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 3: Felt a lot sharper.

2098
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:52,800
Speaker 6: I guess yeah again. I like the first one better

2099
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:55,599
Speaker 6: because it adds its own soundtrack, among other things. Back

2100
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 6: to you, Mike and Ryan.

2101
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 2: I fully anticipated with all the hero, villain and batman

2102
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 2: talk that you are gonna pull a doctor Jonathan Crane

2103
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 2: clip from Killy and Murphy from the Dark Knight series

2104
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 2: Rats Bad job by you Pad Isaac Lowincron where you

2105
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 2: find him in the Twitter verse. Thanks Ilo as always,

2106
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 2: Ian and Sam making us sound so pretty. Coming up next,

2107
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 2: we take a turn into NFL locker rooms and see

2108
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 2: if we can't apply it to the NBA, and maybe

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Speaker 2: we get some story time with Ryan Holland what's it

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Speaker 2: all about? I'll tell you next here on Fox Welcome

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Speaker 2: back in Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday by Carmen,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins with you as we wrap things up shortly

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Speaker 2: after the show ten minutes or so, our guy Ian

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Speaker 2: on Twitter at the Ryan Holland find me over at

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Speaker 2: Swollen Dome. As we finish things up in the Tire

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Speaker 2: Act dot Com. Fox Sports Radio Studios. We've got Dan

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Speaker 2: Byer and Carry Rhodes waiting in the take over ten

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Speaker 2: minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio. Ran I

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Speaker 2: thought I'd bring this one up. It was a pretty

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Speaker 2: good little run. Julian Edelman doing one of his spots

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Speaker 2: with Colin Cowhard for the network talking about Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: and missing the mandatory part of mini camps. Much has

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Speaker 2: been spoken about it, you know, outside looking in and

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Speaker 2: trying to, you know, glean some insights of how this

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Speaker 2: goes over and what it means overall. Robert Sala, you know,

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Speaker 2: admitting that he was not excused from the mini camp.

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Speaker 2: You got Reddick Off in Japan as well, So they've

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Speaker 2: got two big stars on both sides of the ball

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Speaker 2: that are away. But I thought Edelman's quote, we could

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Speaker 2: maybe apply it to the NBA. See what this situation

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Speaker 2: would would yield in a locker room like yours. Basically said,

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Speaker 2: you know, if your your veterans in the locker room,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's it's the idea that if you start

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Speaker 2: out strong and they're three and one and four and oh,

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Speaker 2: that it's not gonna matter. But if you start out

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Speaker 2: you know, one in three the team struggling, there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a lot of finger pointing, et cetera. That in

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Speaker 2: the moment, yeah, you might bristle a bit because you're

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Speaker 2: there working out in the ninety degree heat, but it

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Speaker 2: gets exacerbated, you know, if you get off and you're

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Speaker 2: off to a slow start and Rogers and his timing

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Speaker 2: with the receivers is off to some degree. NBA locker room,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I mean we obviously had

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Speaker 2: all the Kyrie stuff when he would take a day

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Speaker 2: off or whatever, and the whole load management thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: rub folks the wrong way. I got to imagine in

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Speaker 2: the locker room, guys, you know, grinding out and they

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Speaker 2: recognize it. Right, it's it may not like it, but

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Speaker 2: it's for the betterment it's the long term of the squad.

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Speaker 2: But you know, for for Rogers missing that one, you know,

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Speaker 2: how does it you as a guy who was going

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Speaker 2: through the grind in the NBA all those years.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, You know, you take the lead of

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Speaker 3: your best player. So when your best player is there,

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Speaker 3: you know, it makes everybody you know, they're they're gonna

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Speaker 3: follow what's happening. So for him to be missing, it's

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Speaker 3: not the end of the world. It's something Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: is always done. For a guy that was missing time

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Speaker 3: that you really want to give the reins to that

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Speaker 3: missed that all the you know, the hype was around.

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Speaker 3: You'd like him. You'd like to get a return on

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Speaker 3: the investment, and you want to go into the season

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Speaker 3: feeling like, you know, it starts there, it's there. So

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Speaker 3: him missing it is a thing. And the teams that

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Speaker 3: I was on that kind of you know, did best.

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Speaker 3: You know, a lot of that work started early or

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Speaker 3: early on. But those super super vets have their own

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Speaker 3: rooms teen So it's not the end of the world.

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Speaker 3: But for Aaron Rodgers in a brand new situation, it

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Speaker 3: may have been better to break one of his routines.

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Speaker 3: But again, it is not the end of the world.

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Speaker 3: And for a guy who was missing, guy who wasn't there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we get into a lot of the special rules

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Speaker 2: for special players. Right, And in any business, everybody out

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Speaker 2: there can relate to it. Right. You might have the

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Speaker 2: star sales person in your office. Maybe they show up

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Speaker 2: a half hour late, but if their numbers are consistently

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Speaker 2: better than yours, bosses are going to look the other way, right,

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Speaker 2: and brilliant in whatever that field is. So, but for

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, for a guy that was talking about keeping

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Speaker 2: all distractions out of the locker room, sure as hell

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Speaker 2: didn't help things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, it's kind of like me and you. You know,

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Speaker 3: for a long time at work, you know, I was

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Speaker 3: not allowed to have a key fob, you know, so

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Speaker 3: I'd have to call people to get led into the building.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you always had a fob.

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Speaker 2: I have had a fob. I don't have much of

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Speaker 2: this world, but I have a fog. He's Ryan. I'm

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Speaker 2: we'll talk back in next time. See