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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark ken You. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host Mark Kenyan in this episode number three

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Speaker 1: forty one, and today in the show, I am joined

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Speaker 1: by Dan Johnson to discuss it is very exciting, although

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Speaker 1: very long delayed, decision to finally leave the promised land

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Speaker 1: of Iowa to experience a deer hunt in the great

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Speaker 1: state of Michigan. All right, welcome to the Wired Hunt podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by on X. Today, I got my

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Speaker 1: man Dan Johnson with me for from much need to

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Speaker 1: catch up. Um, the main thing I want to at

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Speaker 1: least the main thing I think I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about today is an exciting thing. It's like a fun,

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Speaker 1: happy thing that I am stoked that we're finally talking

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Speaker 1: about after years and years and years and years and years.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but before we before we dive into that

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Speaker 1: which which folks listening will know what I'm referring to

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Speaker 1: now by the title of this podcast, But before that,

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Speaker 1: we're recording this on Wednesday, March eighteen. This is going

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Speaker 1: to come out a week from now, so who knows.

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Speaker 1: What the world's gonna be like seven days from now

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Speaker 1: when people are listening to this. But I can tell

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Speaker 1: you that right now, Dan stuffs pretty weird, pretty different

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Speaker 1: than the world we're living in about a week ago. Um,

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Speaker 1: how are you? How are you doing? How are you

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Speaker 1: in the family doing well? Mark? We're we're just getting by,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's kind of it's kind of

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Speaker 1: it's kind of hard over here, all right. I know

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Speaker 1: that you're kidding, because in Iowa you're pretty well sheltered

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Speaker 1: from what it is serious for a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: I know it is. I know it is. They've closed

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Speaker 1: everything in Iowa, bars, restaurants, they've closed school for four weeks. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Rumor has it they're gonna just close schools down for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the year, going right into into summer um.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that's the same way it is everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Right We're we're practicing our social distancing. We are trying

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Speaker 1: to wash our hands as much as possible. But you

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Speaker 1: know how little kids are, and they're touchy feely, and

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Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be one of those things where

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Speaker 1: if one of us gets it, all of us are

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Speaker 1: gonna get it. Yeah, Yeah, it seems like with kids,

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Speaker 1: it's it's inevitable. The the one blessing of this whole

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Speaker 1: thing seems to be that kids are not, in fact

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Speaker 1: and not impacted nearly as much as as other groups

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Speaker 1: first time I start paying attention to it, the first

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Speaker 1: who's you know, just a month old and that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff. That was really scary at first. But knowing

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Speaker 1: that our kids will probably be okay, that gives me

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Speaker 1: a little peace of mind. But it's pretty crazy stuff

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Speaker 1: ever seen anything like this before, no man. And what

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Speaker 1: this point, I feel like, right, I mean, we need

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Speaker 1: then then there's people like I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 1: the that's the gospel. It's like, oh my god, I

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Speaker 1: like or some you know, just the craziness of it

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Speaker 1: good time to be a hunter or angler or forger

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Speaker 1: have your Mad Max appare? Already? My my wife leads

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Speaker 1: me around in a choker all day? Have you seen that?

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Speaker 1: Those movies? The most recent one, oh, the most recent one. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: the originals. So the Originals, Okay, I haven't seen the Originals.

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Speaker 1: I just saw the newest one. But that's some pretty

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Speaker 1: wild stuff. I hope it doesn't get to that, right.

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Speaker 1: need to learn how to learn who to listen to,

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Speaker 1: Who are the experts. How do you ignore the noise

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Speaker 1: That's badass stressful as ship. Yeah, I guess this might

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Speaker 1: so I'll sit right now. I'm watching a show called Snowfall. Um.

427
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever seen it. It's based

428
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: off of the nineteen eighties crack epidemic, how crack cocaine

429
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: was actually introduced to South central Los Angeles, and how

430
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 1: the CIA was actually helping provide cocaine to drug dealers.

431
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: It's like, it's loosely based on on that, but crack

432
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: cocaine was supported by the CIA back in the eighties.

433
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: So is this a fictional show or this is a

434
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's a fictional show, but it's based off

435
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: of a true story. Yeah. So, because let's see, the

436
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: CIA was selling drugs, the money coming in was used

437
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: to buy weapons that they were flying down to a

438
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: Southern American country and giving to those rebels to help

439
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: overthrow a government. Y. Yeah, it's crazy, it's pretty but

440
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: it's a pretty cool show. I know there's documentaries on

441
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: it as well. But other than that, Man, I watch

442
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: one hour a TV and night these days. Man, you're

443
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: bringing me down with the story about what's going on

444
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: in the eighties. Well it's it's I mean, you know,

445
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: the whole Ronald Reagan crack epidemic thing, and uh, it's

446
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: it's a really cool, it's a really exciting, it's a

447
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: fast paced show. It's it's kind of like a shoot

448
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: him up gangster. You know you have you seen Narcos?

449
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: You haven't. You haven't watched Narcos The Story of Pablo Escobar. No,

450
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: I've heard about it, but I haven't seen it. Dude, Dude,

451
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: there's three there's like three or four seasons of it.

452
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: You definitely need to watch Narcos on Netflix. Now's the time. Yeah,

453
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: I guess I just don't watch a lot of TV.

454
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: Um and when we do, I feel like I've been

455
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: airing towards the comedy right now, Like, if we're getting

456
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: to watch TV, I need like something's gonna give me

457
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: those kinds of endorphins or whatever. Oh dude, you wanna

458
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: you wanna listen to a really funny um god? What's

459
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: her name? Fortune? I think her name is actually Fortune.

460
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: She's a bigger, blonde, shorter, curly hair, heavy set lady

461
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: who's a lesbian and dude, it is. It is a

462
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: hilarious stand up hour. You can find it on Netflix

463
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: as well. I think her name is Fortune something. I'll

464
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: check that out, dude. We did watch the stand up

465
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: special from a guy named Mike Barbiglia. I don't know

466
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: if you've ever heard of him. U super funny dude.

467
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: And it is all about his journey from not wanting

468
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: to have kids to his wife convincing him to have

469
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: a child, to then the whole process of his wife

470
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: being pregnant and what that was all like, and then

471
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: what the first year was with the baby. Uh, something

472
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: that I know you and I can both relate to

473
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 1: a lot right now. So that's another going It's called

474
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: the New One. Yeah, really good stuff. So so I

475
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: also have to tell you what else I've been doing

476
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: lately too. You know, when I do have time, well

477
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: I kind of I'm in a way making time whenever

478
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: I'm uploading a file or downloading a file, or waiting

479
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: for something to load, or you know, maybe I'm on

480
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: the toilet or whatever. You know what I mean. Like

481
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: those those moments, yeah, are spent straight up e scouting nice,

482
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: whether it's my home farm, whether it's Michigan, whether it's

483
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: South Dakota, whether it's you know, some other states. Because

484
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: there's a very small chance that I go to Wisconsin

485
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: maybe to do a turkey hunt right on the Mississippi River.

486
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: So h just been doing a lot of getting on

487
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: on X and just scouting. Well, that's a perfect segue, dude,

488
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: you just said the magic word. Yeah, it's been years

489
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: in the making. It's been a dream of mine. It's

490
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: been on my every every year I set these goals

491
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: for the year, and then for my five year goals,

492
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: and for years now, right at the top of my

493
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: list of my year the goals has convinced Dan Johnson

494
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: to hunt Michigan. And every year it's there. Every year

495
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: I check it off as not not achieved, not achieved,

496
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: not achieved. Now, finally, two thousand twenty, I can say

497
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: Dan Johnson is hunting Michigan. There's been a commitment made.

498
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: It's amazing. How I mean we talked years what happened? Like,

499
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: how did this is? It? Is it? Honestly the fact

500
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: that you finally realize that you couldn't put off the

501
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: verbal contract that you made five years ago or whatever,

502
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: or it was the peer pressure. Did enough people bother

503
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: you about it? How did this happen? This is a

504
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: PC peer pressure, to be honest with you, So we

505
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a technicality when we

506
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: made this agreement if I ever am able to quit

507
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: my job and go full time. Well, I didn't necessarily quit,

508
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: oh jeez, I was laid off right, So off of

509
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: a technicality, I kind of pushed it off, and then

510
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: I I made the mistake of putting out a post saying, Hey,

511
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going on my elk hunt this year. Give

512
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: me an over the counter state to where you know,

513
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: you know where I where I can get a tag easy,

514
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: where there's a lot of public grounds so I can hunt.

515
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: Did you not expect that response you got? Well, I

516
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: thought everybody was going to be real, right, and nobody

517
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 1: was real about I mean, people were real, but they

518
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: were just like, dude, you know you need to go

519
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: to Michigan because you made a promise, and I was.

520
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: You know, there were people who weren't even just commenting

521
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: in that post. They were sending me direct messages saying

522
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: things like, Hey, Dan, I think it would be really

523
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: cool if you would hunt Michigan because you know you

524
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: mentioned you you know, your full time now like going

525
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: through it, not necessarily calling me out, but just like, yeah,

526
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: giving me the timeline of what actually happened. I know

527
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: the timeline, right, but people were just like so here's

528
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: what happened. Dan. You were laid off right promised Mark,

529
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: you know this, this, this, and now it's time to

530
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: pay up. It's almost like it's almost like no one

531
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: really gives a shit about me. They're just minions for you.

532
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's been my plan all alone. Dan.

533
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: It's worked out wonderfully, right, But hey man, I'm getting

534
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: I said, you know, screw it, I'm gonna hunt Michigan.

535
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about this whole thing is for

536
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: everybody who in the past has said Michigan is a

537
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: dogship place to hunt. I have been getting double or

538
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: triple positive feedback from people saying, dude, don't sleep on Michigan.

539
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: You know, if you work hard and you put yourself

540
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: in the right position, there is a chance that you

541
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: run into, you know, something in the pope and young category,

542
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: or a two or a decent two or three year old,

543
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: or even a chance at a dough And it's it's

544
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: people are offering me up their properties. People are one

545
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: to give me spots, and I'm kind of turning them

546
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: down at this point because I kind of want to

547
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: go in and do more of a self test and

548
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: rely on anybody else because I think me and you've

549
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: had a conversations like, dude, I'll do scouting for you,

550
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: I'll run show cameras for you, and I'm just like,

551
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: calm down. Just I was all excited. I was like,

552
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna help out here. But but I

553
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: like what you're getting at though. Too. I think it's

554
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: it would be a good personal challenge for you. Yeah,

555
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: and you know, for me these days, it's not necessarily

556
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: about walking into a piece of property and trying to

557
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: kill the biggest buck that's there. I'm just down for

558
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: a new experience, right, And I think this is gonna

559
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: be It's gonna be an awesome learning experience for you

560
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: because you have done out of state like l cohns

561
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: and mule deer hunts, but you've never really done a

562
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: fully focused, just white tail out of state hunt before, right, Nope,

563
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: never have. So this is gonna be. This is gonna

564
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: be awesome. You're gonna it's gonna be different, way different

565
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: than Iowa. It's gonna be fun, it's gonna be challenging. Um,

566
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: and yeah, you know, we talk a lot about the

567
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: I talk a lot about the challenges of Michigan, but

568
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: it is by no means a dogship place to hunt

569
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: like it's it's a it's a great spot. There's there's

570
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: good deer, there's good opportunities. Um, I mean you can,

571
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: if anyone's watched my hunt's over the last ten years,

572
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: you've seen that. You can. You can see some nice

573
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: deer and get some opportunities. Um. It's different, it's challenging

574
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: in certain ways, but by no means is it impossible

575
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: or not fun or not rewarding or any of that stuff. So, yeah, dude,

576
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm curious though, given what you've heard from people recently,

577
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: given you know, you're following my stories and stuff over

578
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: the last almost ten years, now, um, what kind of

579
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: expectations and goals do you have for it? So so

580
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: I guess maybe maybe should rewind. First off, what's the plan?

581
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: Like when are you coming? For how long? Um? Let's

582
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: cover that, and then I want to talk expectations and goals. Yeah,

583
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: so my goal, you know, obviously it's not ideal, right,

584
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: but my goal is to come opening week, I believe,

585
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: and I am going to honestly, I think. Let me

586
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: pull up October here on my calendar, August September, October, alright,

587
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: So Uh, October one is a Thursday, so I think

588
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: I might come. I might drive up on Tuesday, the

589
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: twenty nine, and scout Wednesday before the season opens, and

590
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: then hunt to Thursday, Friday, Saturday, three day hunt and

591
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: drive back on Sunday. So I'm back late Sunday night.

592
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: So I think that might be the the goal there

593
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: um expectation wise, public ground Michigan. You know it's not

594
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: Iowa obviously, So I think I'm just I'm gonna I'm

595
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: not gonna put any expectations on myself. If it comes

596
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: down to last hunt, last day, and there's a doe

597
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: standing at ten yards twenty yards from my stand, I'm

598
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: sending an arrow her way. I guarantee that I would

599
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: love to walk away from that with something. And I

600
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: think that that would be a great you know, in

601
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: a way, it would be a great success. Now, what

602
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: about a buck? What's it going to take to send

603
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: an arrow at a buck? Let's say day one versus

604
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: Dave four or three or whatever it is. Man, I

605
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: have to I have to answer that question by asking

606
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: you a question, right, So you know, I have the

607
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: luxury of hunting in a state that is known for

608
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: a higher age class, it's known for big antlers. It's

609
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: you know, I talk about that a lot. I talk

610
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: about how you know I passed this deer, but the

611
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: playing field necessarily isn't the same in Michigan. So if hey,

612
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't necessarily want to piss people off.

613
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: You know, obviously I want to hunt my hunt. But

614
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: if I if I shoot a four cohorn or if

615
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: I shoot like a fifty inch six pointer or whatever,

616
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, like I would love to,

617
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: but I don't know if that would make me look

618
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: bad and and being like, oh, this dude's a hypocrite,

619
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: or if I'm if I'm passing a three year old

620
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: in Iowa, but I'm not passing a two or three

621
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: year old in Michigan. I guess that's see what you're saying. Yeah, Um,

622
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't feel bad about it because everyone's

623
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: got a hunter on hunt. And when you're on out

624
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: of state hunt and you're just exploring a new place,

625
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: and I mean I get that. I would like when

626
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: I went to Minnesota last year on that hunt, very

627
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: different experience, had no idea what to expect, new would

628
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: be low deer densities. I was going to take whatever

629
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: buck I saw. Um. But when I'm in Iowa or

630
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: when I'm hunting, like the spots in Michigan that I

631
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: know really well and I've hunted for a long time,

632
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: I've got different goals and expectations. So I mean, I

633
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: I would tell you that Michigan's age structure is definitely

634
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: different than I was, big time, very very different. But

635
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: it's getting better, Like from when I first started trying

636
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: to target mature bucks to where it is now, it's

637
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: definitely better. Like more and more people are passing on

638
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: younger bucks. You're seeing older deer more often. Um. But

639
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: it's it's it's leaps and bounds different than Iowa, Ohio

640
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: or Kansas. Um. I mean, as you've heard me talk about,

641
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: I would say I hunt a couple of pretty good spots.

642
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: Pretty good spots for Michigan is not the best. It's

643
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: not like a thousand acre managed farms. But I've got

644
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: a couple of small sixties seven I've got a couple

645
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: of good spots that are between sixty four and ninety

646
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: acres or so. And you know I'm seeing one to

647
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: like on one property, like the back Ford right there's

648
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: one mature buck I saw um and then got trail

649
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: camera pictures of a couple. Others never saw them, but

650
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: I did get pictures on the other main Michigan spoy.

651
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time on um. You know,

652
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: I had two three year olds that I saw and

653
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: passed on, and then one buck that I thought was four. Um.

654
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: Of all these deer though nothing I mean if we're

655
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: talking like antler size, nothing more than like one thirties

656
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: mid one thirties. UM. And then another farm my hunt,

657
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: another property area I hunt, you know, uh, one three

658
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: year old, couple two year olds, that kind of thing.

659
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: Um So, I would tell you I think most people

660
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: around here would point to a three year old and

661
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: or pope and young type buck, depending on what criteria

662
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: you want to look at, as being like a top

663
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: tier buck. Um So, if you somehow shot a three

664
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: year old or a pope and young buck on your

665
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: pop on your public plan hunt, that would be like

666
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: a super Bowl win I would consider for you. That'd

667
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: be huge, to be amazing. It'd be it's possible. I

668
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: would not tell it's not impossible, it's totally possible, but

669
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: it would be a huge win to do that. Um

670
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: even to kill a two year old, would I would say, like, damn,

671
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: that's pretty good man, if you killed the two year old.

672
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: If I walk into Michigan and kill a two or

673
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: three year old, and I hate to put it, uh

674
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: a rack size on it, but at the one mark pointer,

675
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: I feel like that's that would be a win. Yeah.

676
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: I would be stoked. Even if I mean, even for

677
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: me to kill public land in type Buck that's three

678
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: years old, I'd be really stoked. And I live here.

679
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: Um So yeah, man, I think that's totally doable. I

680
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: don't know which area you're gonna end up choosing, but

681
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: the two areas that you and I have talked about

682
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: that I know of and that I have history with

683
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: totally possible in either one of those spots. Um. So

684
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: that said, you could jack to play the game, and

685
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. Yeah, You're just gonna be excited

686
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: about the game in the process, and as long as

687
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: you enjoy that, then it's all gonna be good. Yeah.

688
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: All right, we gotta take a quick break here to

689
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: thank our friends over at Lacrosse Boots. I was just

690
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: out yesterday helping a friend do some scouting on a property,

691
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Speaker 1: and the boot of choice was the Navigator series. The

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694
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Speaker 1: comfortable for longer hikes, for preseason work like what I

695
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696
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697
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Speaker 1: still going to be like get you into the tree

698
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Speaker 1: if you have to, or hiking in the woods, whatever

699
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Speaker 1: kind of plan you have in place, These boots seem

700
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701
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702
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703
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: crazy when especially the hardcore guys, when we're sitting I

704
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: take off the satellite imagery. Once I find a place

705
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: that I want to hunt, I take off the satellite

706
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: imagery and I'm just looking at lines on a screen

707
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: and I'm just like evaluating that in my head. Okay,

708
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: this is how I've seen de or moved through terrain.

709
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: How many people are just like, dude, that that's some

710
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: crazy people stuff. Well, we are crazy, Dan, We definitely are. Um. Interestingly,

711
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: the two areas that we've been talking about. Both of

712
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: them are much hillier than almost anywhere else in Michigan.

713
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: Um So you those if you end up settenly on

714
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: one of those two areas, you're going to have more

715
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: terrain features than most Most of Michigan, at least the

716
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: Lower Peninsula is is pretty darned flat, open farm country.

717
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: But those two chunks have a nice amount of topography

718
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: that will funnel deer movement, that will allow you to

719
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: make some guesses about deer bedding based on ridges and

720
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: stuff like that. That's not super common around here. Um

721
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: So that's why I think those are those are pretty cool.

722
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: Are you Are you still thinking about one of those

723
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: two or are you looking at anything different? Uh? So, yes,

724
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: But I found a piece and I'm really interested in

725
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: this place. I'm not going to give too much detail

726
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: on it, but I think I could ba door it.

727
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: So basically, here's what I'm looking at. I'll just tell

728
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: you what I'm looking for. I'm obviously looking for any

729
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: piece of public right now. Then I'm looking at the

730
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: time of year that I'm going around. You know, I'm

731
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: gonna be hunting there early October, so I'm looking for

732
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 1: an egg field that borders it, maybe a private egg

733
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: field that that borders it. Then I'm looking at access

734
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: points on this piece of public where this access is,

735
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: and so far I haven't found any of these giant

736
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: pieces where you're walking miles and miles to get in. However,

737
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: I'm looking for us obstacles that I could possibly go through,

738
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: like streams or rivers or creeks or or marsh where

739
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: I can back door it and get something coming to

740
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: one of these pieces of private ground that it's gonna

741
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: take some effort to just number one get back there.

742
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: So you know, I'll be hunting a corner or you know,

743
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: off of a field edge or chline that may have

744
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: some obstacle between the parking lot and the private ground. Right,

745
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: so there's there's these little slivers that might be hard

746
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: to get to. So that's kind of what I'm looking for.

747
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: And then I'm basically just leaving way points there so

748
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: I can come back and look look at it. That's

749
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: I think that's a good that's a good way to

750
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: approach it. Um, I think that makes sense for these

751
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: kinds of spots I know of. UM, some of my

752
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: own hunts in some of these places and a couple

753
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: of buddies that, um that exactly what you're describing has worked,

754
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: where finding a crop field that's got bucks in, especially

755
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: pre opening day, and then looking back from that into

756
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: the public land to try to figure out where that

757
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: buck betting area is, and then back during in between it.

758
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: Um is exactly how a mutual friend of ours killed

759
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: a nice buck. I'm one of these pieces and uh,

760
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: and it's how I've tried to a handful of times

761
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: I've gone in there, um and I have seen some

762
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, like possible three year old, possible one to

763
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: any type bucks in adjacent private land fields to these

764
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: places that we're talking about. Um, so they're they're in

765
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: the area that kind of buck. Um, it's just a

766
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: matter of getting a swing at them. And I don't

767
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: think that you're making a bad decision with that early season. Um,

768
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: the rut you know, great, but there's will be a

769
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: bunch of hunters out there. I think you've got a

770
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: chance to have less pressure and the deer are gonna

771
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: be more comfortable that that opening day hunt is going

772
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: to be like a great, great opportunity. Um. I would

773
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: swing for the fences with that first time, like pick

774
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 1: your best spot probably, um, and go for it because

775
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: you've got a really good chance. I think that first day.

776
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: What's the let me let me feel you out here. Right.

777
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: Let's say there's a farmer who his property butts up

778
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: next to public land, but he doesn't necessarily have any

779
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: timber on it. It's all egg from your experience. Do

780
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: do people let you walk through their fields to backdoor?

781
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: So I'm not necessari if I walk up to a

782
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: or I have a couple of places like this in Iowa,

783
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: and I don't want to hunt your property. I just

784
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: want to walk through it to get to the public Yep.

785
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's totally fifty fifty. There will absolutely people

786
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: that will be okay with that. But so many places

787
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: are bow hunted that you're gonna have a whole lot

788
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: of them that they said, Well, I've got guys that

789
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: are gonna be out there hunting. I don't want to

790
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: mess up their hunt. Um, but it can't hurt to

791
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: ask I had. I've had one person give me permission

792
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: to do that. Um, others have not. But it's worth

793
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: a shot. I mean, it's definitely a good idea. Are

794
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: you are you planning on? Um? What's your plan as

795
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: far as mornings and evenings, you're gona hunt every chance

796
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: you can, or you're gonna start What are you thinking there,

797
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm hunting everything. I think that's I mean, if I

798
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: was in Iowa, I probably would lay off early season

799
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 1: mornings unless I had actual trail camera data that's telling

800
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: me you need to go hunt right now. But because

801
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: this is a short time frame and only time you

802
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: can kill a deer's when you're actually in a tree stand,

803
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hunt mornings and evenings. Yeah, I think I

804
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's smart. I think in in

805
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: that circumstance, i'd do the same thing. Um your first

806
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: night so here, I like, I'm really glad that you're

807
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: going to come in a night beforehand and scout. Um,

808
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: will you allow me to help you at least scout

809
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: that night unless I've got something going. If I if

810
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: I can get free, I'd love to be able to

811
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: provide at least a second set of eyes on a

812
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: different place. You get a cute a few places, um,

813
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: because I'd be so huge if we can find a

814
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: nice buck or some deer that are on some adjacent

815
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: private that will help so much. Just helping you pinpoint

816
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: where to get in at. Yeah, and I have. I

817
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: don't know about you, but you know I've done these

818
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: elk hunts. I've done these mules your hunts now where

819
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: you're you're constantly figuring things out as you go. But

820
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: with my Iowa hunts, right yes, I'm mobile. I already

821
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: know where I need to go because I've been on

822
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: the property before. What I'm really excited about is this

823
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: like an early season grind, if that makes sense right

824
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: where it's I'm doing the same stuff that I would

825
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: do during the rut, but I'm doing it early season.

826
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot more vegetation. But I think

827
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: what's what's gonna what I'm excited about is instead of

828
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: laying off on an observation hunt, I probably won't do

829
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,959
Speaker 1: any observation hunts. I'm gonna go straight gut, I'm gonna

830
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: find the sign, and I'm gonna set up right over

831
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: top of it, not necessarily any field edges, but doing

832
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: what I do in Iowa, you know, I don't hunt

833
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: the field that just go in, but just go in

834
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: that much further and be aggressive on every hunt, and

835
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: if I bump something, at least I know where this

836
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: deer went. And I know when you know whatever, can

837
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: I can I give you a little bit of, um,

838
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: a little bit of Michigan insight, Okay, on a few

839
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: things on those lines. So I'm thinking about like how

840
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: you're being aggressive and going in and trying to get

841
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: tight to stuff. Um So, like I said, there's not

842
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: as much of the hilly country as you have in Iowa,

843
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: so you're gonna depending on where you pick, there's gonna

844
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: be more betting. Particularly buck betting is usually going to

845
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: be I think in the areas you're looking at, it's

846
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: probably gonna be on points extending into swampy stuff or

847
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: islands in the swamp. Um that's usually like the best

848
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: buck bed stuff around here. Um. Now, you might get

849
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: to a spot where there's some hilly stuff, but most

850
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: of the hilly stuff around here, though, it's pretty wide open,

851
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: and a lot of that public land has trails along

852
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: the tops of the ridges and stuff, so there might

853
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: be less betting on those than you might otherwise think.

854
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: Um So not I'm making generalities here, generalizations, but um,

855
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: I would really focus on those swamp points and islands.

856
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: That's just like dynamite buck betting and a lot of

857
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: these Michigan spots. So think about that when you when

858
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: you find your food source that you like and you're

859
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: trying to go back from their backtrack from there and okay,

860
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: figure out where they're betted. Look for spots like that. UM.

861
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: And then the other thing I tell you is when

862
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: it comes to like pressure, like there's gonna be hunting pressure,

863
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 1: there are gonna be other hunters. UM. It can be variable,

864
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: like you might get out, it might get to the

865
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: only spot, especially the first place we talked about. You

866
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: might get out there and there might not be anyone there.

867
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: It might be all yours, But at the same time,

868
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: there might also be guys never parking lot. I don't know. UM.

869
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: I would have a minimum of three to four backup plans. UM, like, Okay,

870
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: here's my spot, I want to check out first. If

871
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: there's people that are there, Okay, then I gotta plan B.

872
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: Then I gotta plan C. Then I got a plan D.

873
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: Like I had a day last October where I literally

874
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: had to go to my fourth spot for an evening

875
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: on I went out, Oh, there's three guys that went

876
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: to my number two, two guys that went to this one,

877
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: three guys that are hiked into a spot ran by

878
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: two other people in tree stands. Um so, so I

879
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: would have a whole list. I have like ten and

880
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: and just so you you do never find yourself like,

881
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: oh shoot, where am I going to go? Um? That

882
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: would be that would be a big recommendation. So I

883
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: like your ideas of scouting the fields the night before,

884
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: having a bunch of spots of backdoor and them through

885
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: tough to access places. I think that's smart. Um. Let

886
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. What about are there on

887
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: the Michigan public Are they allowed to drive four wheelers

888
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: or trucks into it? So most all the spots that

889
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: we're talking about, no, so you shouldn't have anyone driving

890
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: in there. On that stuff. There will be like mountain

891
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: bikes though, and I don't know what the e bike

892
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: rules are tell you the truth, I'm unsure about that.

893
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: Um So, I wouldn't worry about trucks though in the

894
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: spots we've looked at. Um what else? Uh, if you're

895
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: leaving up to restands, they're supposed to be labeled with

896
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: your name and information on it. That's a little thing

897
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: to keep. I know you're probably gonna be running a gunning.

898
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 1: But if you decide to leave one up for a

899
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: couple of days for some reason, that's what you're supposed

900
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: to do. UM. I don't know what other things like

901
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: high level would be helpful. I don't know what other

902
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: things are you wondering about that I might be able

903
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: to give you some insight too, you know, I really don't.

904
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: I really don't know at this point. I, like I said,

905
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still in straight up scouting mode. UM. Obviously

906
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: only digital scouting can only only tell you so much.

907
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: But I'm just looking for corners. I'm looking for, you know,

908
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: especially inside corners right where the the property is on

909
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: the outside of it and the field might go into

910
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: the private or excuse me, the private field might go

911
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: into the public. And looking for those corners. UM. I've

912
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: seen deer throughout the years take advantage of those places. UM.

913
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: But a lot of it has to do you know,

914
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: just be straight up. Um. You know, once once I

915
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: get there, once I get the boots on the ground,

916
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: I'll find out more information. But it's funny that you

917
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: mentioned these islands and these peninsulas into marshes, because I

918
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: have let see one, two, three, four points marked on

919
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 1: this one piece of public that I've been scouting already

920
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: that are exactly what you said they are. It's like

921
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: a point that leads into public or a point that

922
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: leads into a marsh. So most of these spots that

923
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: get protected his public land here in Michigan, they're they're

924
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: usually the spots that couldn't be farmed, and the spots

925
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: that couldn't be farmed are the wet stuff. So a

926
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that we have is public is

927
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: super swampy um, which which is good because that's the

928
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: stuff that most hunters don't want to go into. So

929
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: you've got you have the possibility to hold some deer um.

930
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: I know we've talked about this before, but even when

931
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking for private into hunting Michigan, I almost always

932
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: been trying to get something with a big swamp because

933
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: that is like sometimes the only place where buck can

934
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: survive a gun season. So definitely keen in on that. Um.

935
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: Oh crap, I had something I was just oh, man,

936
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: I knew what I was going to ask you. I

937
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: think you may have answered it in a text message.

938
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: But am I allowed to pull my truck into a

939
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: parking lot and sleep there overnight? Yeah? So I actually

940
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: I didn't respond to that question because I don't know. Um,

941
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: I think the answer is probably no. Actually I'm unsure,

942
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 1: but I do know that there are campgrounds um near

943
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: some of these places where you can camp, but you

944
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: have to pay the camping fee. Um. But yeah, I

945
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: I can point to to a couple of close campgrounds

946
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: to some of these places that Oh, I know what

947
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna tell you. Um, let me write this

948
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: down before I forget. Yeah, so camping options are relatively

949
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: close to some of those places that we talked about.

950
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: And also if you are hunting in some spots that

951
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: are kind of close to me, like I told you,

952
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: you're always welcome to camp at my place too. Yeah.

953
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: So the other thing I was thinking about this is

954
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: kind of a hot tip that I use a lot

955
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: here in Michigan. Um, it just takes some legwork that

956
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 1: most people probably don't want to do, but in Michigan

957
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: we're very dependent on other folks. Managing was similar, with

958
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: a similar mindset to get to the point to have

959
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: some older box and bigger box. So the good spots

960
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: of Michigan are usually good because either no one's allowed

961
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: to hunt around it or be there's a bunch of

962
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: landowners or a bunch of like minded people that have

963
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: all decided to pass on younger deer um. And so

964
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: in Michigan we have I think the highest number of

965
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: q d m A co ops in the nation, so

966
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: co ops as you know, Dan, or these groups of

967
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: landowners that decide, hey, we're all going to kind of

968
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: manage our deer hunting, our deer populations somewhat similarly, and

969
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: we're all gonna work to try to pass on your

970
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: year and a half olds or two and a half

971
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: year olds or whatever it is. Um. So there's a

972
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: bunch of these scattered all around the state. And something

973
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: that I've done when trying to hunt public land around

974
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: here or trying to find new private land hunt is

975
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: trying to find pieces that are close to those or

976
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: adjacent to those, or in that zone where there's a

977
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: better chance than otherwise that people are passing on younger

978
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: deer um. So I would look up qu to MC coops,

979
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: find out where some of those are, and see if

980
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: there's any of that are near public land you can hunt.

981
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: Another thing I do that's kind of creepy, but I

982
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: do it. I did this when I was trying to

983
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: find the back forty property to to buy that. And

984
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: then also when I'm looking for just places to ask

985
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 1: permission or anything, I would you know, google the area

986
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: and names of people that own land around there, or

987
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: hunters and look on Facebook or look on Google and

988
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: try to see if people have posted pictures of deer

989
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: they shot around there, or if there's been a news

990
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: article about a big buck that was shot around here,

991
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,959
Speaker 1: or if there's a buck pole picture for the QT

992
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: make co Op in that area. Different things like that

993
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: can just give you an idea like, oh, yeah, this

994
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: area is pretty decent, or oh wow, this property that's

995
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: right next to that piece of public land. That dude

996
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: posted a picture of two four year olds he shot

997
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 1: last year. That's interesting. UM. Basically Facebook, yeah, Facebook, Instagram,

998
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: Google stock these areas, UM, it's it really can help. UM.

999
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: I think that's something that is worth doing if you're

1000
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: trying to come in and find a new place, figure

1001
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: out if it's worth spending some time. UM. Now I

1002
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: can tell you, based off my own previous stocking that

1003
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: the two areas we've talked about I have potential for

1004
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: those reasons. UM, but you might find some other spots

1005
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: similarly to that too, So that's something for you to

1006
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: keep in mind and for other people in other states whatever.

1007
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's something you can do anywhere,

1008
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: um and help a little bit. Yeah. I don't know, man,

1009
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, every time, whether it's an elk

1010
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: hunt or a mule er hunt or now this hunt,

1011
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: I just keep going back to the excitement of planning.

1012
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't like, if if there was another job out

1013
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: there other than doing what I'm doing, I think it

1014
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: would help people playing hunts, right, and just it was like,

1015
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, like, hey, man, um, I'm gonna gonna draw

1016
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: an Iowa tag and I want public ground or I'm

1017
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: gonna draw this state. I help them go out and

1018
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: achieve that, like kind of what this conversation is right now, right,

1019
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: I think that would be so cool just to al right,

1020
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: so I'm looking at this terrain right here, you might

1021
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: want to do this and this, this this, you know, hey,

1022
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: this guy does this whatever. I don't know. It's funny

1023
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: mentioned that because honestly, like, I have this boost of

1024
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: excitement because I'm getting to do that with you right now.

1025
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: So I totally get what you're saying, because that is

1026
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: so much fun. Um he Speaking of camping places, what's

1027
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: your plan like camping set up? Are you gonna do

1028
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: a tent or you to sleep out of your truck?

1029
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: Are you bring a camper? What's your thoughts there? Yeah,

1030
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: I'll probably Um, I got a top around my truck,

1031
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: so I think I'm just gonna stuff all my stuff

1032
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: in the back and you know, cook my meals inside

1033
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: the cab. If it's nice out, you know, be outside.

1034
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: If I go to a campground, I'm still gonna I'm

1035
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: gonna bring my tent with me just in case. But

1036
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: I think just camping out of my truck is the best.

1037
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: You know, sleeping in the back is just gonna be

1038
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: the best thing because I don't have to set up

1039
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: or tear down anything. Just wake up, eat my breakfast,

1040
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: get after it. Yeah. Man, that's that's my favorite too.

1041
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: I think that's it's you're so mobile that way, you're

1042
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: not stuck in any place. So when you set up

1043
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: the tent, and not that I don't do this sometimes,

1044
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: but when you set the tent, you're a little bit

1045
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: burdened or you're a little bit locked in, Like the

1046
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: you just have this new feeling like I don't really

1047
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: want to tear it down, all this stuff and go

1048
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: to a new place. But when it's always in your truck,

1049
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: if stuff isn't going good after the day and a

1050
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: half or two days, you're like, whatever, let's just go

1051
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: to the next spot. Ums, nothing holding you down. So

1052
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: I like that truck camper camping lifestyle for this kind

1053
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: of hunt. Um so so that and just you know,

1054
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: other than the potential to maybe have some electricity at

1055
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: some point, you know, like I don't know, charge my

1056
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: osonics or you know, charge my phone or something like that,

1057
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: I might, I might take you up on I don't

1058
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: know your your garage or something like that. But other

1059
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: other than that, man, I think it's pretty self sufficient,

1060
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: especially on that time frame, you know, really just three days,

1061
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: I'll be able to have a cooler of food that

1062
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: that will last me, uh deer salami and cheese and

1063
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of beers and water, and I don't

1064
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: necessarily need to take a shower, you know, just like

1065
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: kind of a Western hunt and go for it. I

1066
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: love it. I love it. That's a lot of fun.

1067
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'll bug you to use my shower and

1068
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: to eat good food. If you're willing to take it,

1069
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: but I also fully support your dirt bag lifestyle of

1070
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: choices to right there. You know how it is, though,

1071
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: there's there's something about going out and doing it all

1072
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: by yourself that it's not like I don't want to

1073
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: hang out with people, but I I just want to.

1074
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's this this solitude that we all

1075
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: kind of and and not the quarantine solitude, but like

1076
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: the solitude right just like go out and be closer

1077
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: to nature and be by ourselves. And I don't know,

1078
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: it's like I I long for that kind of thing. Uh,

1079
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: right there with you? What do you think we should

1080
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: do as far as covering this, Um, I feel like

1081
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: we should do at a minimum a pre hunt podcast

1082
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: and a post hunt podcast. But I wonder if it

1083
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: to do like a daily breakdown. I'm sure you're gonna

1084
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: do your own thing, but I wonder if we could

1085
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: do some stuff together kind of to to capture it

1086
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: in a special way. I think what we should do

1087
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: is the day that I come into Michigan, I'm gonna

1088
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: I'll go scout or we can go scout together or whatever.

1089
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: Then we do a podcast after we do like a

1090
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: morning or afternoon of scouting. Yep, Okay, we do that

1091
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: and maybe halfway through the hunt we can do a

1092
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: touch base and then after the three days we do

1093
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: a full one. Yeah, that works for me. Um, I

1094
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be fun. I think it's be awesome,

1095
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: and uh, I gotta I don't know. There's there's nothing

1096
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: I enjoy. There's a few things I enjoy more than

1097
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: when you've got a group of buddies that are all

1098
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: at hunting and then someone has some success and then

1099
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: you get the phone call and everyone's gonna come out

1100
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: and help track or help with whatever it is. Like

1101
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: that group, that that excuse for some camaraderie during hunting seasons.

1102
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: Like my one of my very favorite things absolutely how

1103
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: far does further to live from you? About an hour?

1104
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: An hour? Okay? So he definitely is in in range. Um,

1105
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: And you know our buddy Andy mayor buddy Andy Bradley,

1106
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,439
Speaker 1: Dusty Corey, all those guys are right in this general zone.

1107
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: So you'll we're gonna have to bug you at least

1108
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: one night with beers in the campfire or something. Yeah.

1109
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm up for I'm up for just about anything. Man.

1110
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: I I uh, I don't know, I'm it's just another

1111
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: hunt to get excited about. You know. One thing to

1112
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: keep in mind, this is a little bit of a

1113
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: jump from stuff to be excited about, but something you

1114
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: will have to take into account if you do shoot

1115
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: a deer. You know, we've got c W D REGs here. Um,

1116
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: So if you shoot a buck, you're gonna have to

1117
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: keep it out and either drop everything off at a

1118
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: taxidermist if you end up wanting to do amount. I

1119
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: maybe if you shoot some huge old gagger buck and

1120
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: you want to get him mounted, you'll have to drop

1121
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: it off at a taxidermist here in um within the

1122
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: county because you can't cross out of the CTBD counties

1123
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: to to do that. UM. Or you can cut off

1124
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: the antlers and remove all the brain tissue, all tissue

1125
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: and stuff off it, so you just have the skull

1126
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: plate in the antlers. You can take that out and

1127
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: you can take de boned meat out um. But otherwise

1128
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: you'd have to do it within the Little Couple county region. Yeah,

1129
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: deal with all that. Yeah, if I shoot a deer,

1130
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: I probably just debone it all right there. Um, Can

1131
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: I have it processed out of state? Like I can

1132
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: take all the meat out of off the bone, yep,

1133
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: package it and then I can take it back to

1134
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: Iowa and use my yes, my process okay, yep. So

1135
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: if you de bone everything, um, you're good. You'll just

1136
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: have to it would be a good idea to get

1137
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: it tested. Um. That would be like the smart thing

1138
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: to do would be to drop off the head or

1139
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: stop at a check station where they can remove the

1140
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: lymph notes to get tested, just to be on the

1141
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: safe side, um, and to kind of do our part

1142
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: for uh citizen science. Um. But then yes, you could.

1143
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: You could take the skull cap and the antlers, and

1144
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: you could take the boneless meat and take off with

1145
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and you'll be good to go. All

1146
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: your deer get tested. Yep. I'm doing testing forever for everything.

1147
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: Though no positive um so in the county that I'm in, Uh,

1148
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: there's not been a positive yet. But there's a county

1149
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: adjacent to us where there is positives. Um so. Um.

1150
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: One of the spots you and I have talked about

1151
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: should be pretty far from where the CWD stuff is.

1152
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: One of them is a little bit closer, um, But

1153
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: neither one of them, neither one I think, is in

1154
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: a county yet it's they're both adjacent. Um, but still

1155
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: smart to just be safe. Absolutely. Um. But yeah, it's

1156
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of added regulation, but it's not

1157
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: a huge inconvenience. The whole process is really easy. I've

1158
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: done it multiple times now. You just if it's a dough,

1159
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: you just head in there, you cut the head off,

1160
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: put it in a bag, put in a box, and

1161
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: fill out a quick form and or there'll be people

1162
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: there they can help you do all that. Sometimes it's

1163
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: just a drop stations. Sometimes there's people there to help

1164
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: you with all that stuff. It takes less than five minutes.

1165
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: So not a big deal at all. Yeah, cool man. Um. Yeah,

1166
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: So Michigan, I'm pretty excited about it. I'm gonna keep

1167
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: doing my uh obviously, i love talking to people. I'm

1168
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna keep doing my digital scouting and anybody

1169
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: who's listening out there who you know. I'm not looking

1170
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: for places to hunt necessarily, I can do that on

1171
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: my own, but I just love communicating with people who,

1172
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: let's say, hunt Michigan and have maybe tips and tricks

1173
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: about you know, like this. This whole marsh hunting is

1174
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: new to me because I don't hunt very many marshes

1175
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: here in Iowa. Most of it either if it's wet,

1176
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: it's a river bottom type ground. Right, So just talking

1177
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: strategy with people or you know, hey, don't maybe there's

1178
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: a regulation that I need to know about or something,

1179
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: you know, just like just like an open conversation with people,

1180
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: is you know more than welcome. Well, uh, I'm sure

1181
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: you'll get a lot of help from people. And I

1182
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: know a lot of folks are excited to, uh, to

1183
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: welcome you to the land of the I don't know

1184
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: what it is. Not the land of the giants. It's

1185
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: the land of the of the some opportunity we'll call

1186
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. When I

1187
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: think of when I think of Michigan, I think of

1188
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: a a state that has a deep tradition in hunting

1189
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: and fishing. Um. Then another state that comes to mind

1190
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: right off the top of my head is Wisconsin. Right.

1191
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: So I think of Michigan as people who love to

1192
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: hunt and fish and take advantage of all these opportunities

1193
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: that we have in front of us, and who are

1194
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: sportsman at heart. And I'm excited to go hunt where

1195
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: these people hunt. Yeah, the only regret I have about

1196
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: this is that I wish you could get up to

1197
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: our northern Michigan deer camp and experience that, because that

1198
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: that is the essence of Michigan hunting tradition up there,

1199
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: getting out in the date in the big woods. It's

1200
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 1: totally different up there, like the cabin in the middle

1201
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: of nowhere and the wall of little tiny antler hers

1202
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: and the wood burning stove. That is uh, that is

1203
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: super cool. So how far is ken Roban from where

1204
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: you live? How many hours north of that? Three and

1205
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: a half hours north? Okay, so not that's not too

1206
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: it's not too terrible. If you if you tag out

1207
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: early and you want to just go for a day

1208
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: trip and check it out, we should do it. Yeah,

1209
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: I know. No, let me ask you this. I love food,

1210
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: and so Iowa is known for the big fat pork

1211
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: tenderloins right like that. They're as big as your play

1212
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: and they give you like a little bun basically, and

1213
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: you know what, you know what I'm talking about. I

1214
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: don't know. If I do, Oh, buddy, then you haven't

1215
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: really hunted Iowa, I guess not if you haven't taken

1216
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: advantage of the of the pork. The Iowa pork tender Yeah,

1217
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: I've always done like fish fries and stuff. Is like

1218
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: the special meal I get out there. Yeah, the I

1219
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: can remember that we went. What was that, like the

1220
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: all you could eat catfish dinner that one night we're there.

1221
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: But I'm talking. I'm talking about like Iowa is known

1222
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: because we have a huge pork producing community. I was

1223
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: known for these big giant pork tender loins. It's a sandwich, right,

1224
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: It's like a big breaded kind of thing, red readed

1225
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: pork tender loin. What is Michigan known for? Oh ah,

1226
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: it's a great question. So Northern Michigan, like the up

1227
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: has a thing that's definitely like I can point of

1228
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: right away. It's called a pasty. You ever heard of

1229
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: a pasty? It is like oversized kel zone kind of

1230
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: or a empanada. So it's like a pastry that is

1231
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: filled with meat and potatoes and rudabaga and other vegetables

1232
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: and like a gravy and it's sealed inside this pastry. Um.

1233
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,959
Speaker 1: That is like an Upper Peninsula tradition um, but Lower

1234
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: Peninsula gosh, we're kind of kind of milk toast. We're

1235
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: just kind of you get a standard Midwest fair lots

1236
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: of greasy fried bar food. Um Man, I'm sure someone's

1237
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: gonna be like, how did you forget about this right?

1238
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: Blanking on what our special food is? I don't know.

1239
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm thinking of I think of this,

1240
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: but I just imagined you and your crew up in

1241
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: the cabin during the November gun season eating a like

1242
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: just passing around a jar of pickled eggs. Yeah, you know,

1243
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: that's kind of think my uncle would bring up there totally.

1244
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: So yes, that kind of thing could definitely fit into

1245
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:01,919
Speaker 1: a Northern Michigan vibe. Um Man, I'm I just feel

1246
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: like I'm letting you down here not being a don

1247
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: to think of what our traditional food is. But um,

1248
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's just it's it's anything, but just the

1249
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: quantity is lots of it. Yeah, maybe that's our tradition.

1250
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: Um we will have to think about this and come

1251
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: back and have some kind of traditional good meal at

1252
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: some point. Someone will somebody will tell me about it

1253
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: just from listening to this, someone like Mark Kenyon is

1254
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: a dipshit. Our our state food is this? Yeah, please

1255
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: please inform me as well so I never made this

1256
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: mistake again, you're letting down there. I know it. Well,

1257
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: it's not the first time. Dan, alright, man, well is

1258
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: there anything else on your mind about the Michigan Hunt

1259
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,440
Speaker 1: that we should cover off on, or any other questions

1260
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: or not? Really, Um, I do want to you know,

1261
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 1: I know you don't want to put any pressure on it,

1262
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: but I do want to stop and just take a

1263
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 1: look at the back forty see what the hype is about.

1264
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: Not necessarily drive through it or hunted. I just want

1265
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: to take a look and see just like the terrain,

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01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: right for sure, that's a great idea. And yes, it's

1267
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: not so far away that we can't scoot over there,

1268
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: and you know, we could probably do a little drive

1269
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: around some the edges and pull camera or something like

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01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: that that I want to do anyways, and give you

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01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: a view of it too. So what's nice about it

1272
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: is it's in one of those other one of those

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01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: rare places that has a little bit of a hill

1274
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 1: to it, so you can get a nice little vantage

1275
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: and see across parts from a few locations, which which

1276
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 1: can't do in most areas. So I'm excited for you

1277
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: to see it. I'm excited. I'm just excited to kind

1278
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: of show my little neck of the woods to you.

1279
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: Since I've got to spend so much time over by

1280
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 1: your stuff. Um, it's gonna be fun to get to

1281
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: return the favor. Yeah, absolutely, man, I'm jacked and uh

1282
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: I think you know what, what would happen? What would happen,

1283
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: actually happen if I shoot a frank right out of

1284
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 1: the gate first time ever day one an all. Obviously

1285
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: it's the os are against that. But would would people

1286
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 1: hate me more than they already do? Oh, without a doubt,

1287
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: you would be loathed. But that makes it dance gonna

1288
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know what you guys are talking about.

1289
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: This piece of cake. This is easy. There's booers around

1290
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: every tree, every tree, and then I never could give

1291
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 1: you sh about Iowa. And after that, Yeah, I I

1292
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: hope for you to have the best luck possible, but

1293
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: that would make my life more difficult if that happened.

1294
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: To defend myself, but not too much luck, right, It's like,

1295
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: but please not too much. Do me a favor and

1296
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: only shoot like one. You know what would be amazing

1297
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: is if you shoot a nice buck and I'm gonna

1298
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: be taking a stab at my best buck on that

1299
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: first night or two as well. So I'm gonna try

1300
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: to kill Tran the first night or two. So you

1301
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: shoot a buck and I kill Tran within the same

1302
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: day or two, and we will have the most epic,

1303
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: celebratory podcasts of Wired Haunt all time. Would this be

1304
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 1: the podcast where we both get drunk on air? Yes,

1305
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: within within safe limits, we will definitely do that. And yeah,

1306
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: we would have open can policy for the podcast. Oh nice,

1307
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: what's the what's the beer? A choice in Michigan? You

1308
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: should know this, hopefully. Man, It's so diverse, but happy

1309
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: be a Michigan brew brewery. Uh so, Founders is a

1310
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: great Michigan brewery. Um so I'm going for like all day.

1311
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: I p A would be a very good choice. Or

1312
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: another favorite of mine is the Dirty Blonde by at

1313
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 1: Water Brewing, which is out Detroit. Founders out of Grand

1314
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: Rapids where I grew up. So either one of those

1315
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: would be really good choices. That just tells you how

1316
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: different we actually are in almost every aspect of life,

1317
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, Like here you are, you know, it's like, hey,

1318
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: tell me about a Michigan beer and you're like, well, yeah,

1319
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: we got all these uh these craft beers. It's so

1320
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: delicious and ship just like, Man, I'm gonna bring a

1321
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: thirty pack more than likely of bush light because I've

1322
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: been drinking that ship since eighth grade. Hey man, more

1323
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:13,759
Speaker 1: power to you. Well, I'm pumped about this. I'm very excited.

1324
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun to be

1325
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: able to follow your preparations throughout the spring and summer.

1326
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 1: And um, I'm gonna have a hard time not wanting

1327
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: to do drive by as these places and get your reports.

1328
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna do my best to leave

1329
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: you alone and not interfere with your planning. But I'm

1330
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: also excited. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong.

1331
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: Mark like help and saying, oh dude, I saw a

1332
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: great deer in this field the other day are two

1333
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: completely different things. Like information is great, but I don't

1334
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: want anybody to hold my hand. Okay, okay, fair enough.

1335
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: Well we'll find a healthy middle point. So just tell

1336
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: me where Andy May hunts and we'll be good. Yeah.

1337
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: I can point you to a couple of spots right now,

1338
01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 1: He's like, he's happy. Don't talk about it. I'm gonna

1339
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: get a phone calling about noon on Thursday. Alright, dude, Well,

1340
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: good stuff, Thanks for taking the time to catch up. Um,

1341
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: be safe, keep the family healthy, and uh let's talk

1342
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: again soon. Alright, guys, that is it for us today.

1343
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, thanks for being part of this community,

1344
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: and thanks for being part of this larger community we

1345
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: call humans, we call Americans or North Americans, whatever it is.

1346
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: Wherever you call home, make sure you are thinking about others,

1347
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: practicing safe social distancing, being careful not to infect other people,

1348
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: just being safe and smart. That's all we can do

1349
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,759
Speaker 1: right now. And also support your local businesses in whatever

1350
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: way you can. You probably can't sit in a restaurant

1351
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: or go to many stores right now, but place to

1352
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: take out order or place an online order at a

1353
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: local pro shop or bookstore, whatever kind of thing you

1354
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: want to support. There's a lot of people out there

1355
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: right now that are struggling due to a lot of

1356
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: these current changes and channel and just so do what

1357
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: you can give back if possible, And until next time,

1358
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: thank you and stay wired to hunt h