1 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, we begin to look 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: at this week's opponent, the Los Angeles Rams, and specifically 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: their defense. It is one of the best, if not 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: the best, in the NFL. We know the Cardinals offense 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: has struggled in the past two weeks. A huge challenge 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: awaits on Sunday, but first the team is getting healthier. 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, episode three sixty two, and it 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu 9 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday, 10 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. 11 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Visit acy Cardinals dot Com Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: the right, throws near sight of fence Bob he Us 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: into the zone for the touchdown. Here's Craig, Griolou and 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: Nrecky So. After two days away, MJ, coaches and players 15 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: return to the Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals training Center today, 16 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: which I'm sure everyone enjoyed. Because it's one thing to 17 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: be on zoom, it's another thing to actual socially distanced, 18 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: but at least in the same room and in this case, 19 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: on the practice field earlier today, and we are seeing 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: this team knock on wood a little bit here, get 21 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: a little bit healthier, at least some more bodies out there. 22 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: One in particular, Trent Sherfield activated from the reserve COVID 23 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: nineteen list. He was placed there on Thanksgiving Day, same 24 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: day as Larry Fitzgerald was placed on that list. Yet 25 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: his name not on the list of players activated today. 26 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: So we just we wonder. I don't want to speculate, 27 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: but one glad for Trent Sherfield, but we wait fits 28 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: and of course we also wait news on Deonte Thompson 29 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah. I don't know if you've got a 30 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: chance to listen to Patrick Peterson's pie casts. I mean 31 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: it's almost must listen just because you don't know what 32 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: the topics going to talk about. I think him and 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: McFadden do a good job. But he really thought they 34 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: misfits in that game. And we just you know, because 35 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: Larry's not putting up numbers. But again, the space sing 36 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: with the receivers and people are texting me journey game. 37 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: Why is this it a beellgatting all these reps or 38 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: targets I said, because Larry's out, Yeah, Kirk on the outside, 39 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: Hop on the outside. And then but I do think Larry, 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: you know whether it's a catch or not. I mean again, 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: I do. You brought up a really good point on 42 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: Sunday night during our postgame show and I drove home 43 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: and I thought about it. I mean, Trent Cherfield, that's 44 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: what he does. He covers kicks, he covers punts. I mean, 45 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: that's where how he's on the roster. And Zeke Turner 46 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 1: and Dennis Gardeck and you know, Isaiah's getting more an opportunity. 47 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: So you know, every team's has injury. Unfortunately this this 48 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: was COVID, but they when you look back, they definitely 49 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: missed two of their guys. You know, one's still a 50 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: top third receiver on the roster, whether it's two or three. 51 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: And then Sherfield again, the reason why he's on the 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: rosters because of team. So it's unfortunate, but hopefully those 53 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: guys can get healthy. And it was nice to see 54 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: trend out there. Another thing I was able to see, 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: and we're gonna go through some of the roster roses 56 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: that we were ten defensive lineman practicing now Jordan Phillips 57 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: was out there. He was on the slid um. I 58 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: know he's still maybe a ways away from practicing and 59 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: on that for sure, but right now he was out there. 60 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: But they had ten d Lineman and Craig. Usually, you know, 61 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: when you go with the three to four, you keep seven, 62 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: you go with the four to three, you keep nine, 63 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: and then how many are active on game day. But 64 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: it was nice to see some bodies out there because 65 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: that's where a game plays. I'll always played in the trenches, 66 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, and that the offensive line has been you know, 67 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: healthy for the most part of guys you know, missing 68 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: maybe a snap or maybe a couple of possessions, but 69 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: it's nice to see that. And then the linebackers, you know, 70 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: it seems like, you know, I want to learn more 71 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: about Derek Cannard only getting eleven snaps, but I think 72 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: it's Red Vons done that a few times. I think 73 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: it's really because of Golden and Reddick and Isaiah two 74 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: because he could rush the pastor. But it was to me, 75 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: it was nice to see some guys out there because 76 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: we've talked about the safety position was you know, hasn't 77 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: been healthy pretty much for the entire season. Spots, and 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: then you know the linebacker position, you know, you look 79 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: at it. You know Devandre Campbell. I thought he played 80 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: really well, one of the better players. Buddha really did 81 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: show up when I went back and watched the film, 82 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: and it's going to happen when they try to neutralize you. 83 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: But it was nice to see some guys out there 84 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: where they're gonna have to make some decisions come game day. Now, 85 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: Phillips just a spectator. He still remains on IR but 86 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: for defensive line coach Brentson Buckner, I'm sure he loved 87 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: to have all of these pieces back. He did get 88 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: Richard Lawrence activated from the injured reserve designated to Return list, 89 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 1: so he is available this week. He last played against 90 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: the Jets in Week five, suffered a calf injury in 91 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: that game and then we hadn't seen him since. And 92 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: then Lecky Foe to designated to return from the injured 93 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: reserve list, so he can begin practicing this week, and 94 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: if so the progress is may and the team believes 95 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: he's capable, he can be activated at any point now 96 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: over the next three weeks. As well as cornerback Kevin 97 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Peterson probably more of a special teams guy, But at 98 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: least you're getting some depth in terms of numbers on 99 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: that defensive side, because, as we chronicled yesterday on Cardinals 100 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: Cover two, our Tuesday edition of our daily podcast, during 101 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 1: the week, bench Joseph decimated with injuries and a COVID 102 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: nineteen lists and it's trying to figure out who's available 103 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: any given week. And yeah, you got a plug and play, 104 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: but it is good to hear and see some of 105 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: these players getting back out on the field this late 106 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: into the season. Yeah, and you know, we always talk 107 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: about guys making the jump for one year to the 108 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: second year, and obviously it's all going to be dependent 109 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: on the vaccine. If we get back to a normal offseason, 110 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: we'll just we'll chew on that in the off season. 111 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: But I think it's important for Leckey Foe two and 112 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: Richard Lawrence to return because it's important for these guys 113 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: to get reps. And when I watched him go through drills, 114 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: they got violent hands. I mean you could see when 115 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: they hit that bag. And you know another guy that 116 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, I was wondering, you know, what's his hell, 117 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: STAPs Zach Allen was out there, and you know they 118 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: need Zach Allen, whether he plays forty snaps. I mean 119 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: they need him. I mean we talked about Phillips and 120 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: Peters and Zach Allen. That was the starters in week one, 121 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: So that was encouraging to me. You know, there's times 122 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: he comes out and you know you're thinking, our army 123 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: are going to see him on the list coming up. 124 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, he was out there, and I think that's 125 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: important because you have a better rotation what they want 126 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: to do when it comes to possibly putting pressure on 127 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Yeah, Alan returned last week, appeared to get reinjured, 128 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: but then jogged off the field and was able to return. 129 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: So he might be one of those things that has 130 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: an injury that's that's lingering. He just got a monitor 131 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: during the course of the week. But I'm glad you 132 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: brought up Lawrence and Poet and I didn't include Allen 133 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: in that mix as well because he only played four 134 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: games last year and technically no longer a rookie. But 135 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: in terms of reps, and specifically Lawrence and Foe too, 136 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: when you have no off season, no preseason, getting back 137 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: is one thing, but getting on the practice field as another, 138 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 1: because then you can really get to work and hone 139 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: in your craft, get those feet right, the hands rights, 140 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: and certainly obviously help on Sundays to stop the run 141 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: or rush the quarterback clogged the middle. But I think 142 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: for them, because of this, I don't know how to 143 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: encapitalize twenty twenty. It's been a crazy it's been a weird, 144 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: it's sometimes been scary. But this team, certainly, when you 145 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: draft who you did back in April, they want to 146 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: see that progress made and in a part of the future. So, yes, 147 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: this is quality reps in an important time of the 148 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: regular season. You know, this is an example for me. 149 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: You know, in Philadelphia, obviously Carson Wentz. You know, he's 150 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: turned the ball over, he looks a little, he's not confident, 151 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: and you know, all of a sudden, they drafted Jalen 152 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: Hurts in the second round, and you know, so and 153 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: suppose that he was taking first round reps. But they're 154 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: sitting in a situation where they're trying to win football 155 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: games because of what the division record is and so 156 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: and then the media is saying, well, why don't you 157 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: play this guy? But you know how it is. I mean, 158 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: you've got to be in a float, and you know, 159 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: obviously through that late interception, just miscommunication with him and 160 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: Dallas cotterd But that, to me is an example. So 161 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: you can see the Cardinals are trying to win games, 162 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: but they feel like, based on Phillips on the shelf 163 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: and no Corey Peters, that these guys could be part 164 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: of the rotation and they'll get better as it goes on. 165 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: But I just think it's valuable reps. But they're also 166 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: trying to win games, and that's a little bit different 167 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: than other teams at this point in the year. Yeah, 168 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: and that's difficult when you're trying to win, stay in 169 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: a playoff chase, or improve your playoff position, yet at 170 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: the same time get these young players to improve and 171 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: see some progression, see some development. How do you balance 172 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: that as far as getting them game time snaps versus 173 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: some one else. But in the Cardinals case, with respect 174 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: to Lawrence and Foe too, you have no other options 175 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: at this point because of how banged up that unit 176 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: has been with Corey Peters on the shelf the rest 177 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: of the season and Jordan Phillips on i R for 178 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: the time being. Yeah, and I think I'm glad you 179 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: put Zach Allen there because as you said, he only 180 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: played four games, and you know, I'm glad he didn't 181 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: have to have surgery. But I think him and Mason 182 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: Cole and Dan Arnold really got stronger in the offseason. 183 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, I would put him in that same equation 184 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: because on paper, you know, Corey Peters is a free agent, 185 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: I would think he's playing at a high level, the 186 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: great locker room guy. You know, you don't know, you know, 187 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: if he wants two or three year deal. You know, 188 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: they'll obviously trying to figure that out. But those guys 189 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: are going to be part of the rotation next year. 190 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Phillips should be starting, Alan should be starting, 191 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: and then one if one of those two guys. And 192 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: I get the impression from Vans and maybe you do. 193 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: When it comes to Lawrence, they think he can do 194 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more than what Luck he can do, 195 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: just based on the body size and what they did 196 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: in college. I know it's the NFL, but they're really 197 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: intrigued with these prospects. Yeah, and that was something that 198 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: they brought up after the draft. Is like in college, 199 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: Lawrence and Foe two were asked to do one thing, 200 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals believe with some practice and some reps 201 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: you can expand that skill set a little bit to 202 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: whether they're more effective on the NFL level. Quick sidetrack here, 203 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: and because you brought up Corey Peters and the injury 204 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: and becoming a free agent, and then it hit me 205 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: the last time we saw a veteran player go down 206 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: to a season ending injury. It wasn't long after that 207 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 1: general manager Steve come we got the press release a 208 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: Q Shipley had been resigned for the following season. He 209 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: was going into his free agency offseason and he was 210 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: on the shelf. I wonder, and I know things are 211 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: different here in twenty twenty with the salary cap and 212 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: everything else. My guess is, without talking to anyone, MJ 213 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals would love to have Corey Peters back. I don't 214 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: know if it's feasible for something to get done before 215 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: the end of the season, but it certainly would make 216 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure Vans Joseph a lot happier. Brentson Buck, They're 217 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: a lot happier if you know going into twenty twenty 218 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: one that you have a Corey Peters to perhaps well 219 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: one play and play well, but two also be that 220 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: veteran presence in that defensive line room. Yeah, now that's 221 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: a great parallel. I mean, I didn't even think of that, 222 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: but we again, you know, the cap probably gonna go 223 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: down about one seventy five. I think some veterans are 224 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: going to get squeezed, and then you know, the Cardinals 225 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: have to id who they want to resign. You know, 226 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: some of these rookies will be coming off their rookie contracts. 227 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: You know, I'm shooting assuming they want to get Kirk 228 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: done before he tests free agency. So that's a lot 229 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: of heavy lifting in the offseason. Gonna make a decision 230 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: at the running back position with Kenyan Drake. As I 231 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: told you yesterday, I looked at the running back free 232 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: agent list and he was number one on there. And 233 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: then this guy's like Tevin Coleman and Carlos High I 234 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: really like. I think they got a one two punch 235 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: and seattle't know with him and Chris Carson. But yeah, 236 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: but that's a really good idea because that's that's how 237 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: you take care of a player, and that's what they 238 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: do with Shipley, and Shipley bailed him out for a 239 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: long time. So that's a really good parallel to where 240 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: I could see them doing that and because not because 241 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: he's a great guy. It's because he's a leader and 242 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: when he's in the game, he's productive. Just be thinking 243 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: out loud again, it was just something that popped in 244 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: my head and I thought I'd throw it out there. 245 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: But I personally would love to see Corey Peters come back, 246 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: just because he said is not only a good guy, 247 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: but a good player on and off the field. 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You can go to as 263 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com for more information. Of course, this weekend, 264 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: that is Saturday now Sunday, the Cardinals will host the 265 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, the first of what will be two 266 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: meetings over the last month of the regular season, five 267 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: games total for the Cardinals, who are six and five 268 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: in the Rams at seven and four, And we spent 269 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: a lot of time Monday talking about this Cardinals offense 270 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: kind of stuck in gear. If you will, twenty one points, 271 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: it's seventeen points the past two weeks. They need to 272 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: get back on track. They need to get back on 273 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: that five game run where they had thirty plus points 274 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: and four hundred plus yards and that was what this 275 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: offense is built on. I don't know now the last 276 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: time this team was on a two game losing strick, 277 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: they were able to quote unquote get right by playing 278 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: the Jets. I don't know if you can get right 279 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: playing the Rams. Mj especially this Rams defense, which is, 280 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: if not the best in the NFL top to bottom 281 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: one of, And when I say one of, there might 282 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: be only two or three other teams that have a 283 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: defense like the Los Angeles Rams. Well, normally, when you're 284 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: building your defense, it's really you know, the outside pass rush, 285 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: and you know, Michael Barkis had a deal with the 286 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: Ravens and then he went and going back to the Rams. 287 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: And then you're throwing Aaron Donald. But I really think, 288 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, the way we watched Jamal Adams play, that's 289 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: way Jalen Ramsey even though he's a corner. So if 290 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: you get that shut down corner and give it the the 291 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: n there's a lot of credit because when Richard Sherman returned, 292 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: they were a different team. A lot of people think 293 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: when they're healthy in that second, they could be the 294 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: strength of this division and you know with both corner spots. 295 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean they And then he's throwing Aaron 296 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: Donald where I want to say, he's got ten sacks 297 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: already this year and he's done well against Cardinals at home, 298 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: like I'm sure every team in the division. But yeah, 299 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: I mean that that's where it all starts. But I 300 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: think they got the pass rusher, even though he's not 301 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: twenty five. They got the interior guy that can. I 302 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: mean literally you see centers, running backs and tight ends 303 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: basically try to stop him to get to the Courtmack 304 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: almost two to three guys. Not saying he's getting triple 305 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: team to the line of scrimmage, but there are times 306 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: when you have to at least put you know, a 307 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: kind of railroad up there, you know, layers, because you 308 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: don't want to get to the quarterback. So they had 309 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: the key players and the key positions. There was the 310 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: last stat I saw, with respects to Aaron Donald, that 311 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: he was the most double teamed defensive player in all 312 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: of football. And it was even triple teamed about a 313 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: dozen or a dozen and a half times this season, 314 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: which is just unheard of. But you've got Aaron Donald, 315 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: you've got Michael Brockers, You've got Troy Reader, who was 316 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: a tackling machine last week, and then of course Jalen 317 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: Ramsey and the secondary So at every level you've got 318 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: star or stars. And then this is what the Cardinals offense. 319 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: And we're gonna get into try to figure out how 320 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: to correct this Cardinals offense and get into what Kyle 321 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: Murray had to say earlier today. But just so the 322 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: Bird gang is aware. This is what the Cardinals offense 323 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: is facing on Sunday. The Rams rank in the top 324 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: five in eight different defensive categories. Total yards per game, 325 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: net passing yards per game, takeaways, points allowed, sacks, rushing 326 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: yards per game, third down percentage, and passing percentage. That 327 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: basically at all MJ the run, the pass, and keeping 328 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: teams out of the end zona. And just by comparison, 329 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the Cardinals making strides from 330 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: the Steve Wilkes error, and then you know, obviously you 331 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: know last year they got better everything you mentioned with 332 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, they were in the top fifteen of a 333 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: lot of those categories. So just you can see the 334 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: difference in the defense is not clearly they went with 335 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: the new coordinator, but he was a position coach. They 336 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: rely on their offense to score points and then they 337 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: try to force you to you know, get you three 338 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: and out. So a little bit different personnel, but yeah, 339 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a situation where you know, and 340 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm old enough to know this, Craig and figured it out. 341 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: Stat w was helped me out here. Between two thousand 342 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: and six and two seventeen, the Cardinals had won fifteen 343 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: of twenty two games against the Rams fifteen. Things are 344 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: a little bit different now, including the nine game winning 345 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: streak is the longest and serious history for either team. However, 346 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: lost ange Us enters through a sweets contest, having won 347 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: six in a row in five straight in Arizona. But 348 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: I am old enough to know and watch those games 349 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: in two thousand and six to seventeen, fifteen and twenty two. 350 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: It's time to change the tide. Yeah, the last time 351 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals beat the Rams twenty sixteen, last time they 352 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: beat the Rams at home twenty fourteen. Of course, what 353 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: was the big mantro Bruce Arians The Rams always finish 354 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: eight and eights under the Jeff Fisher. That's no longer 355 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: the case. Sean McBay has turned that franchise around and 356 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: doing it with defense and then a capable offense as well. 357 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: We'll touch on the Rams offense on Thursday. But I 358 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: am thoroughly impressed. I always knew this Rams defense was 359 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: good with an Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey. But I 360 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: gotta admit, numbers wise, and we talk about it a lot. 361 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: Game's not played on paper, it's played on the field. 362 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: But numbers wise, You'd be hard pressed to find another 363 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: defense that is this good, top to bottom and basically 364 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: every statistical category you can think of. And then you wonder, 365 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: and it's because the offense turns the ball over. This 366 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: team should be a heck of a lot better than 367 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: seven and four. Yes, I agree with that. And you 368 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: know last year, if they wouldn't win with eight seven teams, 369 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: they would have got in. Yeah, I mean, but you 370 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: know anyone would take that defense. But again, how do 371 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: the Cardinals attack that that defense? And I think hopefully 372 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: if Larry's able to practice towards the end of the week, 373 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: we may not know anything until Saturday. Officially, I do 374 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: think the Cardinals feel like they could still line up 375 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: and run that football now. I think Belichick and Brian Floores, 376 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: maybe even a guy like Matt Patricia. After that ten 377 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: nothing lead last week, they started protecting the edges. And 378 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: we know that the Cardinals like to use every blade 379 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: of grass. It's a the air raid, the run raid. 380 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: It's predicated on using the entire field. And like I said, 381 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't mean to be redundant, but I didn't see 382 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: the spacing in there. And then you know, we're probably 383 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: gonna see some mass protection. Um, you know, they do 384 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: have Max Williams and Dan Arnold, and I think Arnold's 385 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: been open on that on that scene pass. It's just 386 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: but you know, obviously Kyler's got to see that. But yeah, 387 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: I again I trust Sean Coogler, and they got to 388 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: get it right with protection. But I do think we 389 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: could see some mass protections and maybe not so much 390 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: for wide where you go you maybe go eleven personnel, 391 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: one tight end, three wide and you get your playmakers 392 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: on the field Hopkins, Larry Kirk, Arnold, Williams and then 393 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: you know Chase or Kenyan Drake and then again Kyler 394 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: could be the luxury. So but they gotta win at 395 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage because you don't want to be 396 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: in third and long on this team and then you're 397 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: you're punting and you're playing for field position. So yeah, 398 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: clearly got their work cut out. But I think if 399 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: they go back and say, you know, hey, yes, there 400 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: could be a blueprint out there, but every team is 401 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: different and every coordinator calls it different even though they 402 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: feel like there's something out there that's keeping him in 403 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: the pocket. So I think they got to be patient. 404 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: Also that you can't foresting. You know, I feel it's 405 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: okay to punt in this league considering to get ten 406 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: to twelve possessions, and they got to get more than 407 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: fifty three plays well. And then the other thing, you 408 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: can't get discouraged. Yes, this doesn't work initially, and then 409 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: on the flip side, you can't get too high if 410 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: you jump out to an early league because as we've seen, 411 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: not only this past Sunday, but we've seen it across 412 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: the league. Every single week there's one or two or 413 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: three teams that are coming back from double digit deficits, 414 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: which hasn't happened in a long long time, if ever 415 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And that just goes to show you 416 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: just how dominant some of these offenses are that you're 417 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: never really out of it, even if you're down three scores, 418 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: depending on how much time is in the game. But 419 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: you brought up and we talked about it on Monday, 420 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: as far as the Bill Belichick, Tree and Kelvin Beacham 421 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: brought it up on Tuesday. The Lions, the Dolphins, the Patriots, 422 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: all losses and what are they all have in common? Well, 423 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: they fall under Bill Belichick. Now you've got Joe Judge 424 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: coming up with the Giants, do we see a similar thing? 425 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: But it also happens you got to have the right personnel. Yes, 426 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: and if you're the Cardinals, and we focused on it 427 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: and got a little upset and frustrated that these past 428 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: two weeks, you gotta change something, you gotta do something different. Well, 429 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: do you do something different if you're the Cardinals or 430 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: do you just keep doing with a little tweaks what 431 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: your philosophy is offensively and just do it a little 432 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: bit better? Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, I mean, 433 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: Craig at this point in the year, this is who 434 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: they are, and he says he wants to make decisions 435 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: in the pocket and now you know the passing lanes. 436 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: He's getting what I think he has twelve Benet balls 437 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: down this year stat So I want to I want 438 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: to do with what they do with Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers, 439 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: move him out of the pocket, cut the field in half, 440 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: you know, make you know, not to simplify things, because 441 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: he can make every throw and you know, I know 442 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: act receivers and you know Julio lines up on the 443 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: left or right side and Mike Thomas, they kind of 444 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: move them around because they got some speed guys. I 445 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: just I just wondered if you can move Hopkins around. 446 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: And one thing I really want to see more as 447 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: slant passes. We don't we see these bubble screens. You 448 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: know that we consider those extended run plays and start 449 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: off at the end. He isabella nineteen yard game, but 450 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: some slant plays where you know, the old Jerry Rice 451 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: and John Taylor not comparing, but John Montana would throw 452 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: a you know, ten yards eight yards slant and those 453 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: guys were off to the races. And I think Isabella 454 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: can benefit from that. Kirsten Kirk, even though he maybe 455 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: here's your intermediate to deep threat, and I don't know 456 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: if that's their offense, because I think it's the illusion. 457 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: Here's Hopkins. You have to decide to play man. You're 458 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: gonna put a safety over and then that should open 459 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: things up for other players. But I would like to 460 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: see him in this. I didn't have this in September, 461 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: October or November, but I started watching the games the 462 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks and I didn't like the spacing, 463 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: and again Larry wasn't out there. But I wonder if 464 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: you can get some more slant passes. Involved, and then 465 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: maybe moving Hopkins around a little bit just don't make 466 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: it so predictable. Well, what you do need is you 467 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: do need to have number ten targeted a lot more. 468 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: And you look at the number of times he has 469 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: been targeted this season. I went back and looked at 470 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: his game log. He's been targeted ten or more times 471 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: four different times this season. Cardinals are three and one 472 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: in those games. Now, I'm not saying you need to 473 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: target him X number of times and you automatically win. 474 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: But if you look at the last your abs go up. Yes, 475 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: he's averaging less than eight targets in the five losses 476 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: this season. Now our defense is taking him away? Or 477 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: does Kyle of the Orbaby not have the time to 478 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: focus in on number ten. Well, if you want to 479 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: look at I mean Stefan Gilmour, who was a Defensive 480 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: Player of the Year. I think we realize how good 481 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: those two corners are in Miami with Howard and Byron Jones. 482 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: And then you look in Seattle. Maybe they don't have 483 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 1: the best corners, but we're gonna see San Francisco here 484 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: soon and they got good corners. So you know you're 485 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: going against Hradavias White in Buffalo. You know, so he's 486 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: he's drawn that number one corner. It's just I just 487 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: want to see him move him around. But again that 488 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: may not be the illusion of the offense just based 489 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: on where he stands and lines up. We know he 490 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: can get off press coverage. But one thing Belichick did 491 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: a really good job was, you know how he gets 492 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: those screen passes, and we haven't seen as much as that, 493 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: and he can run down the sidelines and tiptoe. They 494 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: tackled him right away. They were tackling his ankles. They 495 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: were I mean, if they didn't get the past defense, 496 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: they were tackling right away, and so you didn't see 497 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: the yards after a catch. And that's coaching. That's something 498 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: they see on film where this guy is getting the 499 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: ball and he's tiptoed down the sidelines and we're not 500 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: going to push him out. We're gonna tackle him and 501 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: keeping him in balance and keep the clock going. Now 502 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: we say target Hopkins, Yet at the same time this 503 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: week he's got Jalen Rams. He lined up across from him, 504 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: one of the there go one of the better corners 505 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: in the game, certainly the highest paid corner in the game. 506 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: And you look at what that matchup is. Yet at 507 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: the same time, even if there's tight coverage, do you 508 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: not have to throw it in the direction of DeAndre 509 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: Hopkins just to kind of keep defenses honest, So you're 510 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: not basically ignoring one side of the field or the other. Yeah, 511 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: and we know that, you know sometimes body language, you know, 512 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: sometimes Hopkins at one game, I think it was last week, 513 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: he had four catches in the first half and I 514 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: think he was only targeted at once. That's not good 515 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: body language when he comes to the sidelines because but 516 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: I think early in the season Kyler and again in 517 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: Week one, they were covered him. So that's how the 518 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals won. And obviously, you know, making some stops. But 519 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: I think Kyler earning this season was I gotta get 520 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: I gotta get this guy involved early, and I think 521 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: he was forcing it a little bit, to be honest 522 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: with you. Now, again, oh body of work. Maybe it 523 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: got like that way in October in November, But when 524 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: he's that, you know, Larry and Kirk and Arnold and 525 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: Williams and Drake and Edmonds. I mean, to me, whoever's 526 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: open throw it to him. And I know I've heard 527 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: wide receivers come back to the huddle and say I 528 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: was open. You know what the quarterbacks say, don't tell 529 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: him he showed me. Well, I think at this point 530 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: maybe we need we need to see Murray maybe force 531 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: it to Hopkins, like perhaps maybe he got into a 532 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: quote unquote bad habit earlier this season. Yes, because as 533 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: good as DeAndre Hopkins is, he's been taken away over 534 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: these last three losses. Five catches, five catches and three catches. 535 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: It's no different than in the NBA. While you got 536 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: to stop the other team's best score, Well, the ball 537 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: is still gonna go to a Lebron James and James 538 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: hard So the ball still has to go to DeAndre Hopkins. 539 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: And maybe the onus is on Murray getting the ball 540 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: out quicker, Maybe the onus is on Hopkins to gain 541 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: a little bit more separation. It's gonna be a fun 542 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: matchup Hopkins and Ramsey. But that should not mean that 543 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Murray doesn't look at number ten's direction or the offense 544 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: goes away from that side of the field because you're 545 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: afraid or you're scared of turning the ball over or 546 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: an incomplete pass. Yeah, yeah, I listen. I don't like 547 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: the word force, but I get what you're saying. If 548 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: he's open, I mean, if he gets a sliver on 549 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: a guy and he can face the corner, then he's 550 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: going to catch it. But I do think there's other options. 551 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sure you know Kyler, you know, 552 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: here's it from. You know Hopkins on the sidelines. I'm open, 553 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm open, I'm open. But once again, show me you're open, 554 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: and you know, the guys that are open should get 555 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: the ball. The one thing we have seen is Hopkins 556 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: is targeted more on first down. If you look at 557 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: the splits on Pro Football Reference, it's a dramatic drop 558 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: off from the first down to the second down to 559 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: the third down, and then how he is targeted when 560 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: there is a blitz versus a normal rush, and in 561 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: a blitz situation, Hopkins hardly ever gets the ball. And 562 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, again, is that Murray not reading the 563 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: blitz and knowing where the open man is or you 564 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: got to read that hot time, you got to read 565 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: the hot and we watch it and Russell Wilson and 566 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: on that final drive when a Zaiah Simmons got that interception, 567 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: the receivers never looked at the ball. If they're blitzing 568 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: and teams are bringing four or five and six now 569 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: before they were rushing three or four and dropping seven 570 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: and the covers where you got thrown in a tight window. 571 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, like I said, it's it's you know, I 572 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: just think they got to get in a rhythm, get 573 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: in the sink. And I do like when they go 574 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: with the hurry up offense. I think they're more in 575 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: up tempo. Again, it's not like they're you know, snapping 576 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: the ball with twenty seven seconds. It's a normal play. 577 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: But also it doesn't allow the other team that the 578 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: substitute to get different matchups. So I do like that 579 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: wrinkle in the offense. I don't know if you can 580 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: do it all the time, especially when you get a lead. 581 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: But it's not like they're snapping the ball right after 582 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: the referee sets the ball on the field on this 583 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: passing offense. And again the Rams do a great job 584 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: of defending the past. Yet Kingsbury earlier this week had 585 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: an interesting phrase when he talked about the precision passing 586 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: game being on time with the ball having the right 587 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: depths of the routes. I think you've got to have 588 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: more sense of urgency there when teams are going to 589 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: make us throw it, and we get in situations where 590 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: we have to throw it. Precision passing game, well, that 591 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: tells me. And again I didn't like the spacing last week. 592 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean, when you have two receivers in the same 593 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 1: and you know it's going to happen, but it just 594 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like. We see a lot of crossing routes 595 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 1: from the Cardinals. Again, everything's predicated on getting off press coverage, 596 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: recognizing the defense, and then you have to change your 597 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: route and the quarterback and the wide receiver have to 598 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: be on the same page. But we don't see a 599 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: lot of crossing routes, and we see a lot of slants, 600 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: and again the illusion is we're putting our best wide 601 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: receiver on this side and you're you're gonna have to 602 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: defend it according to down in distance. I certainly would 603 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: like to see this passing game because right now it's 604 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: an average passing game as far as the numbers are concerned, 605 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: and I don't think we anticipated that this season, especially 606 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: in year two of Kingsbury and Murray, and then you 607 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: add one of the most dynamic wide receivers in the game, 608 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: it should be a lot better. We've had our moments, 609 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: but there's just hasn't been as many. And I think 610 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 1: if you look at when this team has been successful, 611 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: yes it's Kyle Murray running in the football, but it's 612 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: also DeAndre Hopkins being involved in the offense and probably 613 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: the numbers between eight and ten targets and maybe he 614 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: gets seven eight cotches. I mean, usually he's pretty accurate 615 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: thrown to him. You know, sometimes you get a PI call. 616 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: Last week they called it on both him and Gilmours 617 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: was offsetting. But yeah, I mean I think and if 618 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: he's I think you got to get feed him early 619 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: just to keep his confidence up where he doesn't have 620 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: that body language coming to the sidelines and knowing he 621 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: had four catches in the first half, because you know, listen, 622 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: these wide receivers they want to see their name in 623 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: the top three or four when it comes to the yardage. 624 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: And you know, one thing, Hopkins hasn't had a lot 625 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: of his touchdowns, but I think because of Murray and 626 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: the red zone and they're able to run the ball 627 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: and you know, the short gets shorter and so really 628 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: the goal line is a twelve defender for an opposing team. 629 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: But I you know, at some point, I think he's 630 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: going to string some touchdowns together because you know, just 631 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: the way the offense, but again they are trying to 632 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: run down there, or it's going to be one of 633 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: those rollouts where you know, Christian Kirk could have caught 634 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: that ball a couple of weeks ago, and he could 635 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: have caught last week. You know, I was also thinking 636 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: about this about Zane Benzalis and because you talk to 637 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: people and they're like, I don't know, we don't know 638 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: really what's going on, and I was thinking, it's like 639 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: a closer. You know, when that closer has got to 640 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: come in and whether he inherits runners or usually managers 641 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: will try to give him a free inning. You're judge 642 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: down what you do in that short amount of time. 643 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I think Zane's gonna have to show 644 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: us upside because I'll say this, it seems like for 645 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: right now he's the kicker. Oh, I don't think there's 646 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: any question about that. If we haven't seen or heard 647 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: of a move, And the only other move that you 648 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: could make at this point would be to elevate Mike 649 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: Nugent from the practice squad, and I just don't know 650 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: if that's a better option, although I am curious if 651 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: it is Zane Gonzalez and a situation comes up on 652 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: Sunday where you're between forty and forty nine and it's 653 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: fourth down, does these past three games influence Kingsbury's thinking 654 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, you're going forward on 655 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: fourth down, which we've seen Kingsbury do. Yet at the 656 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: same time, you're going forward because you're not quite confident 657 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: in who you have on your sideline as a place kicker. 658 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: That can be a good feeling. And I'm sure Cliffs 659 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: thinking of about that driving home at night, because you're right, 660 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's all gonna be dictating down to distance 661 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: and with the scores. I mean, there's a field goal 662 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: put you ahead where you got to, you know, try 663 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: to your defense makes a stop, there's a touchdown mean 664 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: more because you know they're gonna get the ball back 665 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: with five minutes. But yeah, it's just one of those 666 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: scenarios where it's got to be on his mind because 667 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: but he's an NFL kicker. I mean that's where he does, 668 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, So we'll see. But it's kind of my 669 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: analogy is for now and it's kind of like a 670 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: closer I mean, you got to come in and do 671 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: your job. And we know that guy blows says, and 672 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: guy can throw ninety five miles ninety eight babies, but 673 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: you can't hit it short and you can't hit it 674 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: wide right. You got to go right through the uprights. 675 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's it's not like you know, he's kicking 676 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: at why like twenty yards or he's just the balls 677 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: is squibbing and it's not even get a chance to 678 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: be accurate. I mean, accuracy has been an issue, but 679 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: I mean they've been close, just not close enough to 680 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: where you can score points. 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We 686 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: teased that we would get into what Kyler Murray had 687 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: to say with respects to this offense, and I'll give 688 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,959 Speaker 1: the media a lot of credit MJA earlier today trying 689 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: to get some answers out of the young quarterback into 690 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: a certain extent, you're not going to get a lot 691 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: from Murray. One, he's still young, he's still learning the 692 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: position as far as what it means to be a 693 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. And then the second thing is 694 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: is he's just not going to tell you a lot 695 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: that we want to hear. Maybe some of the more 696 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: long term quarterbacks will give you something, and then you'll 697 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: listen back to it and think, well, he didn't really 698 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: tell us anything. Murray's just is not going to give 699 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: it to you at all, because we want to know 700 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: what this team is going to do to turn around 701 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: the offense. Y and Z Yeah, and Murray's looking at 702 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: that guy and hearing what you want me to tell 703 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: you what we're going to do, And then someone's going 704 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: to hear it on the other side, and now the 705 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: Rams know what we're going to do. And I think 706 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: that was his feeling because a number of times a 707 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: question was asked, rephrased, rephrased again, and we want to know, Hey, 708 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: teams are taking you away. They don't want to see 709 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: you run. All right. If that's the case, what is 710 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: the adjustment? What do you do? And without again he 711 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: doesn't say anything, but he keeps repeating the same phrasing, 712 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: we just got to be better, just execute better. And 713 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: it's the same thing that Calvin Beecham said on Monday 714 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: quote it boils down to execution. That's why I wonder 715 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: is it just the execution or does a real adjustment 716 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: need to be made for this offense to get back 717 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: on track? If there's September, I would say, yeah, I 718 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: just think that this is who they are and they're 719 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 1: gonna have to get their way out of it. I mean, 720 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: football is about adjustments. I mean, I know I'm sounding 721 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: it's sounding simple, but when they watch film, I mean, 722 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: and he said, you know, and I really liked the 723 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: way that he spoke yesterday and Devandary Campbell just about 724 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: this is playoff football. Patrick Peters is probably gonna tell 725 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: us the same thing. This is playoff football. So there's 726 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: no no layoups here. But you know, he also said, 727 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: there's a way to practice, and some guys practice one way, 728 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: some guys practice the other. I always was told, now, 729 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: tone it down about fifteen percent. The way you practice 730 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 1: is the way you're going to play on game day. 731 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: So if you're loafening there in practice, everything's filmed, so 732 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 1: they will get called out and they better have a better, 733 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: really good excuse why they're loafing and and a lot 734 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: of times, I mean it's about how did you look 735 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: in practice? Are we going to elevate you from the 736 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: practice squad? And those get those opportunities. But yeah, it's 737 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: just one of those scenarios where you know, you look 738 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: at it and you just gotta figure you know, there's 739 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: really I don't think you can get yourself out of 740 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: this if you don't make adjustments. You can't force it. 741 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: But I think you just gotta make adjustments. And again, 742 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: they gotta win at the point of attack. A line 743 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: and d line that will go a long way to 744 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: whoever you're playing in these last five games. An adjustment, though, 745 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: is it a minor adjustment. It is a major adjustments. 746 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: It's like going to the mechanic and saying, hey, I'm 747 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: hearing this, and all it is is tightening the screw, 748 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: if you will, or tightening this bolt, as opposed to 749 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: go in and saying, well, X, Y and Z is wrong. 750 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: It's going to be a total overhaul. We need to 751 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: keep the car for a week. I mean, I don't 752 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: know the answer to that. The way I look at it. 753 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about the number one or number 754 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: two rushing team total yards per game. I mean, you 755 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: look at the Rams Cardinals are pretty even. Even though 756 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: Rams may have more touch down passes and Cardinals will 757 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,479 Speaker 1: have eighteen rushing touchdowns, but I think they're at thirty 758 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: three or thirty five. It could be a little bit higher, 759 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: but it's pretty even. So we'll compare them to the 760 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: Rams in their offense. So I just don't think he 761 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: can do an overhaul. We know who the players are. 762 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of you know, sounds simple, but 763 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 1: play calling is execution. You know, it's easy to hindsight 764 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: or they shouldn't have done this. And you know, you 765 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: watch a game for three hours and these guys put 766 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: eighty hours in. Doesn't mean that they're going to be right, 767 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: but they have much more information than we do. Yeah, 768 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: it's going to be an interesting matchup. You almost don't 769 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: want to wait even more than we already have to. 770 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: You want to see that now because certainly a bad 771 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: taste in everyone's mouth on Sunday at Gillette Stadium, because 772 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: this team certainly needs to get back on track, if 773 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: for no other reason to change the perception to change 774 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 1: the narrative, and a win over the Rams on Sunday 775 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: would certainly do that and certainly make the playoffs that 776 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: much more attainable for this team right now, because the 777 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: loss to drop you to six and six, then all 778 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden you start looking and maybe the playoffs 779 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 1: don't happen in twenty twenty, and that certainly would be 780 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: a huge disappointment considering this team at one point with 781 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 1: six and three, first place in the division, with everything 782 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: on the line and in front of them, and then 783 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: they just didn't take advantage. And we've said that a 784 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: lot here in twenty twenty, Well, I mean, it's gonna 785 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: come down. Are you going to go two and three 786 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: or three and two? Now I'd love to sit here 787 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: and say you're gonna go four and one, because you 788 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: do want to be playing your bus football. But I 789 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 1: think the Cardinals they feel like if they can get 790 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: in with this offense and the way the defense can maintain, 791 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: they feel like they can be in every game. So 792 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 1: just get just take care of the Rams this week 793 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: and then we'll start worrying about what's happening. But two 794 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: and three is not going to do it. And when 795 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: you're six and three and you finish eight and eight. Yeah, yeah, 796 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: it's you know, we'll talk about next year and they 797 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: should be in position to make a run into the division. 798 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: But you're still going to deal with the Seahawks. Russell 799 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: Wilson's not retiring. We'll see what happens in San Francisco, 800 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: but we know they're well coached. They move may move 801 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: loser or Defensivecording to Robert Salm, he's gonna be up 802 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: for one of these jobs. He was the finals last 803 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: year in Cleveland when they went with Kevin Stefanski and 804 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: then the Rams. I mean they got a young coordinator. 805 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: They you know, we'll see what they do with GoF 806 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,959 Speaker 1: but they owe so much money to him, they're gonna 807 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: have to make it work for him, you know. So yeah, 808 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean two and three would not be good. But 809 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm really just trying to focus on this 810 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: because you get this one. Now you got four, and 811 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: then you can go three and one there again, because 812 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: you've got two division games to end the season. You 813 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: know that's going to parlay there. They're jockey and for 814 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: positions seating wise, but you want to be playing better football. 815 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: You just don't want to limp into the playoffs. Because 816 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: you want x amount of games in the first three 817 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 1: months of the season, Bird Gang, we want to invite 818 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: you to head to NFL dot com Slash Pro Bowl 819 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: Votes and vote for your favorite Arizona Cardinals player into 820 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one Pro Bowl. No, there will not 821 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: be an actual game play, but it is going to 822 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: be virtual thanks to EA Sports, Madden NFL twenty one, 823 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals certainly well represented by the early returns 824 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: on voting, which will run through December seventeenth. Again, NFL 825 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: dot Com Slash Pro Bowl Vote to send in your 826 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: favorite Arizona Cardinals player. Wednesday edition of Cardinals Cover two 827 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: presented by Honday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and 828 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: a first here on Cardinals Cover to MJ the first 829 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: time that we have done a show on a Wednesday 830 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: in which an NFL game has been scheduled, as the 831 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: Ravens and Steelers playing on Wednesday, a game that was 832 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: supposed to be played on Thanksgiving moved to Sunday, moved 833 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: to Tuesday, and now here we are on Wednesday. By 834 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: the way, I heard this interesting nugget that the NFL 835 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty will have played at least one game 836 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: on every day of the week. I can get used 837 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: to Wednesday afternoon football, obviously, Sundays, Mondays. We've seen a 838 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: couple of Tuesdays games we had. We'll have a Friday 839 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 1: night game on Christmas Day then that's on the schedule. 840 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 1: And of course coming up in December, we've got a 841 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 1: couple of Saturdays as Marmal NFL, the games excluding the Cardinals. 842 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: That's right in week sixteen, they'll host the forty nine Ers, 843 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: who will be here for the entire month of December. 844 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: It seems like so Cardinals and forty nine Ers and 845 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: a home game for both teams perhaps yeah, and uh 846 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: and and the Niners are hosting the Bills this Monday, 847 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: United State Farm Stadium. Sean mcderbert's ass was asked and 848 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 1: they gave up a hell married to Justin Herbert last 849 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: week and he's like, you can't defend it in practice. 850 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: You can try to, you know, simulate it. But he said, 851 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: we're not going to play the Cardinals. We're going to 852 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: play the San Francisco forty nine hours now. From a 853 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: travel standpoint, it's probably better for the Bills, certainly going 854 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: to be interesting. Code up on Monday to watch that 855 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: one on Monday Night Football. And on that note, here 856 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 1: on this Wednesday edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Unday, 857 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, we will put a 858 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: lid on this show special thanks as always to our 859 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: executive producer, Jim on a hundred for Mike Jarecki. I'm 860 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 1: freg Riel Lou. We'll talk to you next time they're 861 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two