1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. Look at all the different things they're 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: doing with oil over the days when an oil oil 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: is just meant to lubricate cool and carried dirt away. 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Now it's doing everything else. I don't Thank God, you know, 5 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: is that car doctor. The answer for why one car 6 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: is designed the way it is and the others that 7 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: way is physically because there's an accountant involved. Welcome to 8 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Anian, the car Doctor. 9 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 10 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 11 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 12 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: call in the garage. Orders are open, but I am 13 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 1: here to take their calls. At eight five five five 14 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: six and now he running. Hey, welcome moning in the 15 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: car dockers five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 16 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: Thank you God to be here in part of your 17 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: day as we go forward and try to repair cars 18 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: this hour as we have for the best twenty five 19 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: plus years. Eight five five six zero nine nine zero 20 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: zero is seven. You can call leave a message if 21 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: we're not on the air, and fast Terry if ever 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: comes back from vacation, we'll call you back and get 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: you in the lineup for that. You think he's coming 24 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: back to n Tony shaking his head. He's not really sure. 25 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: What do you think, Tony? You think Harry's ever going 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: to come back? He's in love, he's in love. Well, 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: that's true. We're having fun, so be nice. You know 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: he's out there listening. You know, he's probably out there 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: listening right now in Louisville, Kentucky. You guys want to 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: but but we we don't have to take his call 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: if he calls in, so you know, we can just 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: talk about him and keep going. I don't think he 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: would call in. Uh somehow, somehow, I think he's in love. 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: He's uh, he's out there watching the horse races. But 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: in any event, fast Harry. We'll call you back if 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: he ever comes back from vacation, and I get you 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: in line up for the following show. The show is 38 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: live Saturday afternoons to to four pm Eastern Time, and UM, 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: if you call it zero, we will get you in 40 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: the lineup and UM get your message and you can 41 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: leave a message there as well. So when we set 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: that up for you, naturally, of course podcasting, what would 43 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: radio show be without podcasting in this day and age. Um, 44 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, you can go to tune in, you can 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: go to my Heart, you can go to iTunes, you 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: can go to Google Play. 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We've 54 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: just been too busy fixing cars and too many other 55 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: projects going on, Just far too many things to deal with, 56 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: and there's only so much for me to go around. 57 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: And I made a promise to my family the past week. 58 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: I haven't touched a car in a week. We're just 59 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: coming off of our staycation. Monday, we'll get back into 60 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: the shop and I'm sure I'm nothing to talk about 61 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: next Saturday. Uh, you know what could possibly go wrong 62 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: on a repair shop back on a Monday after a 63 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: week off we closed the shop, so I'm sure that 64 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: will be some stories to tell. By the way, I 65 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: should point out where's that piece of paper. Tom gave 66 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: it to me. Um, I understand my my my cell 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: phone went off at four o'clock this morning, I got 68 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: a text from my engineer, Tom Ray that he's booked 69 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: me into the dead Man's Curve Wild hot Rod Weekend again. 70 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: Of course he waited the two weeks before to tell me, 71 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: so I have to get ready now to do that. 72 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: So if you are in Mahwah, New Jersey, uh, Labor 73 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: Day weekend, I guess that's the third. Yeah, that looks 74 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: like September the three, and I realized this is a 75 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: national show, but I never know where anybody's coming from. 76 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: It's um you know, we can kind of play it 77 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: out that way. But if you're in Mahwah, New Jersey 78 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: the weekend of September the three, that's Labor Day weekend, 79 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon to to four pm, we will be doing 80 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: the radio show live from the Sheridan International Crossroads there 81 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: in Mahwah, joining the gang from dead Man's Curve and 82 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: see what's going on there. You can find more at 83 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: their website. What is their website? Thomas A DMC dot M. 84 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: Tom will find it for me and we'll get it 85 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: up on their um No, that's not it. That's that's 86 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: something else. But Tom will find it for me. Tom 87 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: find me their website for dead Man's Curve and if 88 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: the listeners want to get more information, and um, you 89 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: know Hot Rods are gonna have an Elvis tribute show. 90 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna have Uncle Floyd, which you would know who 91 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Uncle Floyd is if you're from New Jersey. That's a 92 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: Jersey thing. Um, but oh, there it is. Dead Man's Curve. 93 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: USA dot Com is their website and they're also out 94 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: on Facebook along with hot Rod Gasters, Comes Customs, Eddie 95 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: Eddie Munster is gonna be there, Paunch from Chips is 96 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: gonna be there, Ericastrada, so you know, it should be 97 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: a good time. It was a good time last time. 98 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: They've been doing it for a good many couple of 99 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: years now, and um, I think this is number five? 100 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: Is this number five or six? I've lost track, but 101 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: they've been doing it a while now, a good many 102 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: couple of years. And that's Labor Day weekends. We'll be 103 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: there doing that. That being said, before I open up 104 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: the garage story that you want to make one comment. Um, 105 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: a couple of questions lately, people are asking me what 106 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: is the most critical opponent of a car today? And 107 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: I've got to think it comes back to batteries. And 108 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: I and I've got a reason I'm bringing this up. 109 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: And I'll go here in a second. And I think 110 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: it's a battery because everything starts with a battery. The 111 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: battery has got to be you know, proper sized type, 112 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: cleanliness at the terminals and all that stuff. And and 113 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: I'm not here to beat up and talk to you 114 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: about power frame grid technology. And it's a better grid. 115 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: You know it is. You've been listening to the radio show. 116 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: You know why power frame grid technology is a better 117 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: grid and a better battery design and internally and you 118 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: can read more power frame dot com. I get all that. 119 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: I'm not here to tell you about that. What I 120 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about, though, is you know, 121 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: we're going into fall. This is what triggered it Labor Day. 122 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: We're going into colder time of the year, and everybody 123 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: traditionally starts to think battery. Although more batteries are sold 124 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: in warm weather, more batteries fail as a result of 125 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: warm weather, which is part of the power frame grid 126 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: technology design and why it's better and all that. But 127 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: that isn't even what I really want to talk about. 128 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: What I want to talk about up is jump packs. 129 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: And we've gotten a lot of questions in the last 130 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: couple of months over jump packs, and evidently everybody wants 131 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: a jump pack, you know, a little booster pack. And 132 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: it was It's funny because I saw someone the other 133 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: day on the side of the road jump starting a car, 134 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: and I thought of how dangerous that is. They had 135 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: one car going the right way and one car going 136 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: the wrong way, and it was a busy thoroughfare and 137 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: they're out there standing at the fender in the battery 138 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: was on the driver's side of the car, so they 139 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: had to stand out more in the roadway. And I'm thinking, 140 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: how convenient would it have been, how how much safer 141 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: would it have been had they had a jump pack? 142 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: And then I started thinking that kind of goes along 143 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: with what everybody's talking to me about with jump packs, 144 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: and everybody wants to buy a little jump pack. And 145 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: you know how big they are now there there They 146 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: look like your cell phone on steroids. They're just a 147 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: little bit bigger. But the problem is not all of 148 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: them are really safe and rated for the car. And 149 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: I Remember we were supposed to have this conversation you 150 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: and I a couple of weeks ago, and I failed 151 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: to get to it for all the other things that 152 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: the phones just don't stop ringing. And I went back 153 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: and I found my notes from my friend Gary McKie. 154 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: He's the VP of of a communication over there for 155 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: the folks that Associated Equipment out in St. Louis, Missouri, 156 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: and he sent me a letter that they were sending 157 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: out and earlier this year. And the letter starts out, 158 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: Associated Equipment is proud to be an approved source of 159 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: battery chargers and jump starters for use on General Motors vehicles. Recently, 160 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: a communication was sent to GM dealerships cautioning them against 161 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: using non approved equipment during repairs. It states, in part, 162 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: the General Motors testing has shown that the use of 163 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: non approved chargers and booster packs can damage you. Ready 164 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: for this, Using a poor quality booster pack can damage 165 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: headlight bulbs, control modules, and other electrical components. Some non 166 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: approved devices have exceeded twenty volts during a jump start 167 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: event and damage both low beam headlimb filaments. I thought 168 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: this was the biggest bunch of nonsense I ever read 169 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: in my life. And then I talked to a friend 170 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: of mine during the week this past week, just you know, 171 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: not working, but just trying to get ready for working 172 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: because I kind of got a little board of my staycation. 173 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: I hate to tell you, folks, but I really wanted 174 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: to get back to fixing cars. And I was talking 175 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: to my friend Dennis up with a local Catallact dealer, 176 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: and he's telling me, yeah, we do do a lot 177 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: of low beam headlights and a lot of headlights and 178 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: a lot of things. And he says, jump starting is 179 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: a real issue. So this is real, And you know, 180 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: I just want to bring it up that everybody's writing 181 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: me lately asking me about you know, what to use 182 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: and and uh um, you know, in terms of a 183 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: jump pack. And I've got to come back and and 184 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: and stay with what I've been saying. And as Gary 185 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: had told me that they're they're the approved for GM, 186 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm knocking something over here. And I wrote this down 187 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: on a piece of pay project gonna reach around and 188 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: get it the quick Start micro That's what I wanted 189 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: to tell you. Somebody out on Facebook had asked me 190 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: this to uh Lauren Holly Potter, I think it was 191 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: or something like that she wanted to know about what 192 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: jump pack to use, and I said, let me get 193 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: the name of it, but I figured, let me announce 194 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: it on air too. But if you get out to 195 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: the Facebook page, you'll see it's it's in the messenger 196 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: section of the notification section, the quick Start micro um 197 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: which comes from Associated Equipment. You can see more at 198 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: their website which is Associated equip dot com. But you know, 199 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: we're in such a technical age now, no news flash 200 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: there that even a booster pack can be of poor 201 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: quality or have issues if it's not calibrated or set 202 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: up to do the proper thing. And when Gary first 203 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: explained this to me, Gary McKee from Associated, oh beginning 204 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: of the year, you know it kind of I listened, 205 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: But how important could it be? You know what? Seeing 206 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: lots of issues with incorrect jump pack procedures, are incorrect 207 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: jump packs creating problems, and the problem is only going 208 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: to get worse going on. So what's the most important 209 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: part of the car today? What do I think is 210 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: the most critical? I think it's the battery, And I 211 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: think if you're gonna jump start the battery, you've got 212 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: to have a good jump pack. And if you don't 213 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: have a good jump pack, you're gonna create other bigger 214 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: issues because it goes from headlight bulbs to control modules. 215 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: So it goes from five bucks to five thousand UM, 216 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: which dollars signs. Anytime you put dollar signs in front 217 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: of a car for repair, all of a sudden that 218 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: becomes a bigger problem. So get out to Associated equip 219 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: dot com read more about the quick Start micro other 220 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: line of battery jump packs, and at least you're dealing 221 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: with an approved source for car companies. UM some some 222 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: interesting food for thought. I never would have thought it 223 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: was gonna be such a problem, but evidently it is. 224 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine zero zero. I 225 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: am running any in the car doctor. I'll be back 226 00:10:38,520 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: to open the garage doors right after this. M with 227 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: the wind and now stuff things in the hand. Hey, 228 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: welcome to Heck we're on eating of the car doctor. 229 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: I've got an attitude. I'm here to fix your car. 230 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: What's going on, Steve Cleveland, Ohio? Is that is with 231 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: the two thousand eleven Wrangler and some funny noises in 232 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: first and second gear? Steve, Welcome to the car doctors, sir. 233 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: How can I help fair on? Yeah? So it's an 234 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: is actually an automatic, so it's not a not a 235 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: first and second gear problem. But what it is is 236 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: what I start to vehicle up. For about a second 237 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: or two, there's just a loud clatter um and it's 238 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: not associated with hot or cold. It can be either way, 239 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: but it just sounds like metal one metal, and then 240 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: it quickly goes away and the engine sounds normal going forward. 241 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: Do you have any preference or alout on where it's 242 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: coming from front of the car, back of the car, 243 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: underneath your feet, underneath the seat, underneath, underneath the hood, 244 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: and it sounds like the other top side of the engine, 245 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: then okay. Anybody do any kind of diagnosis to this? 246 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: So far Steve, No, No, nothing uns okay. So you 247 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: know the first thing I want to do is let's 248 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: eliminate things. Can we just pop the belt their belts off, 249 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: started up, does the noise go away? And then? And 250 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: then if it does at least then we know it's 251 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: something driven by the belt and that cuts us down 252 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: to what three or four things power steering and air conditioning, 253 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: et cetera. Unless this is an EPs car. If if 254 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: that doesn't do it, my next question would be if 255 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: we started up and put it in drive. This is 256 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: an automatic, he said, and power break it. Can we 257 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: duplicate it? Can you create it? That I've tried and 258 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: I can't, so I'll I'll rabbit and but again it's 259 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: just it's almost to me it sounds like a like 260 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: a dry start, as if you know it's metal on metal. 261 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: Um it really it sounds not not like something spinning, 262 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: but more of just a like a clatter like spokes, 263 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: like cards in a spoke. You know, will it will it? 264 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: Will it do it? Every time you started, Steve, start, 265 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: it makes the noise. Shut it off. Start, it makes 266 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: the noise, shut it off, start, it makes the noise. 267 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: It'll do it on a consistent basis like that, No, 268 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: it won't. And also, to add to it, sometimes it 269 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: will actually be louder and um to the point where 270 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, you could almost pick out a specific clacking noise, 271 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, one that happens to be louder than the other. 272 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: I've just noticed that on a few occasions. But sometimes 273 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: I'll started up and it's completely you know, it's fine. 274 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: How long has it been doing that? How long has 275 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: it been doing this? I started noticing about eight five, 276 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: seven thousand on it now and the first time I 277 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: think I noticed it's right around forty. So you know, 278 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you it's nothing critical. That's good. Then well, 279 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, if you listen in forty miles if it 280 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: was something critical, yea. With all the plastic and tin 281 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: metal they put underneath the hoods of cars today, I 282 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: would have fallen off by now. You know, no, no joke. Now, 283 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: if you really wanted to be serious and track it down, 284 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: not that you're not serious, but you know what I'm saying. 285 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: What I would do is I would if you if 286 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: you lift the hood and start it doesn't make the 287 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: noise of the mechanic in front of it, I'd stand there. 288 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: If we were at the shop, I'd have my stethoscope 289 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: out with with the tip offs, I get more of 290 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: a broader feel and try and zero in on whatever 291 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: it is we're listening for that way, Um, you know, 292 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes it's not rocket science, it's just common sense. 293 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: But that's why I say, if you take the belt off, 294 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: taking the belt off, change or eliminate anything. Yeah, that's 295 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: a great point. I've never never didn't even think to 296 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: try that, right, So yeah, then the only other thing 297 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: with it is at about that same time when I 298 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: started to notice that, I noticed I'm consuming oil uh 299 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: at at the rate of maybe you know, each oil 300 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: change I do every five thousand with full synthetic. But 301 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: I maybe down just not quite a court, a little 302 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: lesson of court, but in five miles. Yeah. Well, and 303 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: has it stayed consistent at a court in five thousand miles? Yes, 304 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: stay pretty consistent yet, so it hasn't. It hasn't increased. Um, 305 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: anybody try to do any kind of diagnosis to that, 306 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: to come to any kind of conclusions. No, So no, 307 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: I haven't done anything with that yet either. You know, 308 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: if it was if the two were somehow tied together, 309 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: forty thousand miles is a long time. A court in 310 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: five thousand miles, you would you would have to make 311 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: some kind of conclusion that it would go downhill quickly 312 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: from there. And it hasn't. It stayed consistent with that, 313 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: So maybe and I don't recommend this often, but maybe 314 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: what you want to do just for peace of mind, 315 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: so you know it's not you know, what you're hearing 316 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: is an engine or what you're you're not about to 317 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: have an in pending engine failure see here's where I 318 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: think an oil analysis is justified. All right, okay, And 319 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people that are long term listeners. I 320 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: don't know whether you are or not, but they'll they'll 321 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: sit there and you know they'll be like people want 322 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: to do oil analysis right from the get go with 323 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: a new car. I don't see the point. Here's a 324 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: car that's five years old, but ninety thousand miles on it. 325 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: You've got a noise, you've got an oil consumption issue. 326 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: This would be interesting to do an oil analysis. And 327 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's nobody, I really, no one specific. I 328 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: would just google it, talk to your friends. Does anybody 329 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: doing it on oil oil analysis? Who are they using? 330 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: There's a bunch of companies out there. I would get 331 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: one done and if it comes back with you know, 332 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: minimal levels and everything is okay, then you know what 333 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: the oil consumption is normal for the beast. A court 334 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: in five thousand isn't the worst. If we were having 335 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: a conversation about a court in a thousand, yeah, then 336 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: you know that's that's to me, that's an issue. Even 337 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: though even though the industry says a court in a 338 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: thousand isn't bad. To me, that's extreme, but I would 339 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: I would start doing an oil analysis and then, depending 340 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: upon what those results are, maybe the next oil change. 341 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: Take that. When you take the oil filter off, cut 342 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: it open, cut it open, spread, spread it out on 343 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: the bench. What do you see inside the polats? Okay? 344 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: All right, and then and we'll kind of go from there. 345 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: But I would definitely try starting this with the belt off. Okay, 346 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: all right, keep me posted, Steve, let me know what happens, 347 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: all right, babe, thank you. Um, yeah, it's you know, 348 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: if this was going on for two weeks, i'd probably 349 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: take a different text. But it's been going on for 350 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: what sounds like two years, two and a half years 351 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: and forty something thousand miles, So I don't necessarily see 352 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: where that's going to be. Um, you know, not that 353 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it, but clunks and rattles sometimes 354 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: cars make clunks and rattles for a very long period 355 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: of time. Now take the conversation the other way if 356 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: if it's possible. The other thing you can do in 357 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: a situation like this is power break it. If you 358 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: put it in drive, does it rattle in one direction? 359 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: Put it in reverse? Does it change the tone? Does 360 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: it change the pitch doesn't make noise in that direction 361 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: as well, And you know those are the kind of 362 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: things we look for. Noises can drive you out of 363 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 1: a car, and it's it's funny. I've fixed more than 364 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: a few that just we'll make you crazy. Um, i'd 365 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: also be creek curious. I forget failed to mention this 366 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: to Steve. If he put it up in the air 367 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: in a lift, you know, if he doesn't hear it 368 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: up high, does he hear it down low? And sometimes 369 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: you've got to start something up in the air and 370 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: listen to it from below and kind of poke around. 371 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: Noises are not easy. They do make electronic ear devices 372 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: that you can place around the vehicle and tune in. 373 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: But you know, at this point, start off slow, take 374 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: the belt off, see where that goes? Eight five zero 375 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: nine zero zero or on any in the car doctor. 376 00:18:49,119 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: I'm back right after this. The things I do to 377 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: keep Tony on his toes hey Ron and any and 378 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: the car doctor. I had to reach down in time 379 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: my shoe. I'm sorry I was away from the mic. 380 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm going you know, I hear the music. I bet 381 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: it's time to sit up and uh take another call. 382 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: So sorry, about that Tom So Tony was jumping up 383 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: and now going where wrong? Go anyway? Ron and any 384 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: of the card doctor zero nine zero zero. See that's 385 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: the sign of a seasoned radio veteran, right, nonchalant and easy. 386 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: They don't know the quivering mass and nervous nelly that 387 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: I really am. Before we go on air and during 388 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: the show, here comes Tom with the feedback. Go ahead, 389 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: do that again, and I have to give him mouth 390 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: to mouth. You're in trouble. Yeah, okay, you got me there. Um, 391 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: let's get on over and talk to John. Line to 392 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: Mustang John, Welcome to the car, doc or sir, how 393 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: can I help? Yeah? How's it going? I got a 394 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: problem with ninety nine Mustang gc um. The alternator charges 395 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: at thirteen volts, yeah, VA four point six to evalve, 396 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: and the alternator puts out thirteen votes. Now I put 397 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: a brand new alternator, brand new Ford alternator, brand new battery, 398 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: and still at thirteen voltes. Now you turn the st on, 399 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: you turn ther wipe is on, the lights on, still 400 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: thirteen voltes. You have it up thirteen votes. Now I 401 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: disconnect the fuse, that twenty fuse that actually feeds the alternator, 402 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: and it automatically full fields to fourteen volts. Now I 403 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: changed the alternator on the warranty again and still it's like, 404 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, its just stays dirt and voltes. Now it 405 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: seems to be a problem. Are you are you? I 406 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: was gonna say, are you looking at the charging rate 407 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: off of a vault meter or off the dash gage 408 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: off the offering a voltmeter? Okay? Okay? Does the car? 409 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: Does the car ever give you a problem where battery 410 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: doesn't charge or it leaves you disabled or no, no, 411 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: not at all. It actually gives me a problem. I've 412 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: actually I put it. It's kind of supercharger on it, 413 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: and uh, I'm having you know, I'm actually losing power 414 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: when it's in thirteen volts because I got a wide 415 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: band fuel ratio, a fuel gauge, and it's ten and 416 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: a half a fuel. Uh when it's thirteen volts. Obviously, 417 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: when it's fourteen volts, it goes down. It goes up 418 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: to eleven a fuel and I get a lot more 419 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: power out of it, you know, because it think is 420 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: blown out spark or something like that. Um, why is 421 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: it that? Let's well back up a second. Um, So 422 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: you've got an aftermarket supercharger, kid on it, right, okay, 423 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: and you took out you took out the O twos 424 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: and you put it in an aftermarket air fuel or 425 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: whatever it came with the kid. No, I ended a 426 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: bump for a white band. All right. So when you're 427 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: going into a full throw will pass, you're saying to 428 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: me that it's going lean. No, it's what the what 429 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: the one knows it's going rich? One of the dirteen 430 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: voltes um based on what what reading are you seeing 431 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: telling you it's going rich because I missed that. I 432 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: have a wide bandy, I feel, I feel gauge, and 433 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: uh when when it's not charging at fourteen volts it's 434 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: going rich because I think it's actually blown out spark, 435 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: I actually feel a power difference. Now my question is 436 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: why does FOD have like a like a feature that 437 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: it only charges like a thirteen votes at durteen point 438 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: two volts as opposed to the normal fourteen votes, Not 439 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: that I'm aware of Not that I'm aware of it 440 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: at all. Now, I'd be curious if you took if 441 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: you took that alternator off the car and bench tested it, 442 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: what is it charge it? Oh? I don't know, because 443 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: you know you know what's it's got too. It's got 444 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: the three prom connector going into the alternator, and each 445 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: of them a fuse, ones for the dash light, for 446 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: the battery light, and another is the toll vote the 447 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: feet that's that's on the twenty fuse. When I disconnect 448 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: that fuse, the alternative automatically full charges. Because if I'm 449 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: not mistaken, one of those the field control for this vehicle, 450 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: the alternator is done through the PCM, if I'm not mistaken, No, 451 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: it's not. According to schematic, it's not. It goes to 452 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: the one for the dashboard for the battery light that 453 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: goes to like a fifteen half fuse, and one goes 454 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: to fuse that goes to right to be plus battery positive. 455 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: So then where's the field control for the alternators itself 456 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: regulating internally? Yes it is, So then that contradicts what 457 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: the car is actually doing. I take the fuse out 458 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: if it full fields the fourteen volts right, So what's 459 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: the fuse doing applying power to that terminal and that 460 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: that's telling the alternator internally to keep voltage lower. Something 461 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense there, that's exactly what it's doing. I 462 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: don't know why And like I said, I put an 463 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: elder in the Ford alternate run under warranty and it's 464 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: still doing the same thing. It only charges a thirteen 465 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: point one volte. Do me a favorite, John, do me 466 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: a favorite, Send me your Vin. Send email me your 467 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: seventeen digit vin. All right, and then if you could 468 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: email me, you know, obviously this car is modified. If 469 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: you could tell me what kits in there, let me 470 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: do a little research this week. Alright, Okay, because something's 471 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: doesn't I agree with you. Something doesn't make sense. You've 472 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: owned the carsons now or for a while. No, no, 473 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: I only had it for about a year, all right. 474 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: Did it Did it come with the supercharger on it? 475 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: Or it's it's no, no I put I put a 476 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: Kenny Bell super charger when I got it. Okay. And 477 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: then when prior to that, did you have the charging 478 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: system issue? I don't remember. You know what it is. 479 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: I never noticed it. You know, I'm only noticing it 480 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: now because i'm you know, I'm actually I think I'm 481 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: losing power. People. You're trying to turn it. Did you 482 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: happen to did you happen to talk to Kenny Bell? 483 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: If that's the manufacture of the supercharger and explain the 484 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: problem to them. No, I actually haven't because I think 485 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: it's more of an electrical issue than a supercharger issue. 486 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's more of a you know, tuning an 487 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: issue or whatever. Well, it can't hurt I'm sure they 488 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: I'm sure they've run into it before. If it's if 489 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: it's if it's something they've seen before, then it would 490 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: be a whole lot easier than reinventing the wheel trying 491 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: to figure it out. Um, you know, it depends on 492 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: how good their tech department is. I I you know, 493 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, I'm just trying to solve it 494 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: in my head myself right now. But the charging system 495 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: wiring is what I want to look at. That's why 496 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: I want to see the vent. So if you send 497 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: me the vent, I'll get you an answer on the 498 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: charging system, will start the ball from there. How's that? Okay? 499 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: Thank you? All right, you're very welcome. You got my 500 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: email Ron at card Doctor show dot com. Yes, okay, 501 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: cool beans. All right, you do that and we'll go 502 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: from there. Thanks John, I appreciate it. You're very welcome. 503 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: Eight zero. Let's pull over and take a pause. We'll 504 00:25:52,840 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: be back right after this. M Yeah, hey, Ronny and 505 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: your car doctor, lets bang on some fenders. Let's go 506 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: and talk to Tom with Nyack, New York, two thousand eleven. 507 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: Chevy expressed, Tom, thank you for waiting. You've been very patient, 508 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: my friend. How can I help you? Hey? Wrong? How 509 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: what's going on? UM? I got the It's a two 510 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: thousand and eleven Express for speed blow and motor UM. 511 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: The register is a six wire the I guess it's 512 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: like a sighten gauge. The red wire and the appin 513 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: with the black tracer right, that comes from the fuse 514 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: that comes from the fort M fuse that is very 515 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: hot to the point where it's melting in the plastic 516 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: on the connector. UM, but only on high because I 517 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: can hold my my finger on it. UM at any 518 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: other speed, it's cool as a cucumber. Put it on high, 519 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: you can't keep your finger on there from one twenty 520 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: seconds without getting Do you have access to can you 521 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: do you have any kind of a clamp on ampmeter? Tom? Um? 522 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: I'd love to see. I'd love to see what the 523 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: current roy is on that line. I mean that's a 524 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: forty M blower. Um, you know it's a forty m fuse. 525 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: It feeds that from the underhood fuse block. And if 526 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: it's if it's you know, if it's above thirty ams, 527 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: i'd be concerned. Well, I changed like going. At first, 528 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: I thought it was the resistance, because what happened was 529 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: UM high speed would cut out once in a while 530 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: and popped the hood go on the kneath just touched 531 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: the resistor. It'd come right on and right maybe to 532 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: resist this band. So I changed the resistance and it 533 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: ran fine, and it always works. By the way, the 534 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: high speed always worked. So after a couple of weeks, 535 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: does not let me just look at a curiosity see 536 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: if everything's okay. I'm there. I pulled it off again 537 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: and I could see the connector melted a little bit 538 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: more and a little bit of burning at the base 539 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: of the apin in the resistance. So I checked around. 540 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: I looked at my owner's manual. But maybe there was 541 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: a relay. There's no relay for that. Went on a 542 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: couple of YouTube sites and googled and sort of like 543 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: what you were saying, The amper drawer on the blow 544 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: motor is no good. Replace the blow motor, he says, 545 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: You know what the heck, it's two and a half 546 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: years old. Anyway, it was originally replaced by Chevrolet back 547 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: too and years ago. So I said, all right, I'll 548 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: just replace it. The It's easy to do with It's 549 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: a no brainer. It's right there. No, And you did that, 550 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: and you still got the problem. Still did it, and 551 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: I still got the problem. But now what I'm wondering 552 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: It could the pin it's the nut topin but the 553 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: connection on the A wire is so badly singed. Could 554 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: that be creating a resistance? Absolutely? You know. Then there's 555 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: then there's another problem with these. Do you have access 556 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: to any kind of technical information? Tom? Um? Only what 557 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: I can find on the internet. Um. There's a document 558 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: from GM document I DAS to seventy four nine. It's 559 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: got an internal number p I E zero two oh one, 560 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: and it talks about blower motor and operative airflow issues 561 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: and high resistance in the blower. It's the twenty three 562 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: page document. I've seen it. I've read it, and it 563 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: starts talking about problems with wiring connectors, things like you're describing, 564 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: and it's probably it's probably something you want to try 565 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: and get your hands on to uh to read it, 566 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: to at least have a copy of it, and they 567 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: go through a detailed step by step because this was 568 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: an engineering problem back in twelve. But it's a good 569 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: pages long. But what I planned on doing tomorrow actually was, 570 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: since this plug the connector is so compromised as it is, um, 571 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: I was going to trend back to the plastic on 572 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: the and and release the the eight the red wire right, 573 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: and I was going to splice a new connection onto 574 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: it and then plug the other five in and then 575 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: plug in the power line it on. If it runs cool, 576 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: I know it was my connection. It's not gonna have 577 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: to go a little bit deeper, right, And then I 578 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: would I would definitely want to see an ampers draw 579 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: on that line, just to see what it's pulling. Okay, 580 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: so it could be beyond the bowler, right, it could 581 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: be beyond the blower. Like I said, you get your 582 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: hands on that document. They go through this. It's involved, 583 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: it's very elaborate, um and but it will it will 584 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: go into detail. I saw it, oh, five six months ago. 585 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: I remember coming across it for something else, and I 586 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: thought it was interesting. But it's something definitely for a 587 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: situation like this, you want to get your hands on 588 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: to read. So if I just if I do get 589 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: lucky and it is the terminal end and I do 590 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: what I want to do tomorrow, what it is running cool? 591 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: I could buy another wiring horness from GM. I know that. 592 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: Is there any way to take the good pins out 593 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: of the old horness and put them into the new 594 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: one instead of cutting and splicing perfectly good waters you 595 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: want to get you know, you want to use a 596 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: pin disassembly kit, which you know snap on Mac. A 597 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: bunch of manufacturers will having I'm sure it's out there 598 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: on the internet to thank God for the Internet. But 599 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: it's just you want to buy a pin release kit 600 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: where you can back the terminals out and work your 601 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: way backwards, you know, so it can be done, can 602 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: be done. Absolutely. I really don't want to compromise five 603 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: good wires for one right, Yeah, no, absolutely, But like 604 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: I said, let's do an amtro test too, Let's see 605 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: what it's pulling. Alright, kid, thank you very much, You're 606 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: very welcome. Good luck to you. Tom. Let's get over 607 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: and talk to Frank Congress New York. Frank your your 608 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: early son. And we're not into winter yet. We're just 609 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: finishing up with summer. But you're right, it is time 610 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: to think about winter, right, you know, you guys start 611 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: thinking about this. You know you gotta be pre pre 612 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: uh proactive, proactive actually early. Yeah, no, you gotta be 613 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: proactive because it's gonna be here before you know. It's 614 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: also early. You talk about oil change, I'm adamant on 615 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: changing oil. Oh. I watch it and it runs a 616 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: car nights the fel Because I talked to you about 617 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: and I've been away for a a while, I just 618 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: want to give a call and say I love the show. 619 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: And I got my card doctor shirt on uh and 620 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm walking around with that card you gave me. Write 621 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: my car here, So I just want to say thank you. Hey, Frank, 622 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna come down. You're gonna come down to Maha, 623 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: New Jersey. I think, yeah, I just heard that. Yeah, 624 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: I think I might. I'm gonna come down to you guys. 625 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: Come down for a secment. How that? Where are your car? 626 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: Doctor color stopping and say hello, We'll be down there 627 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: broadcasting the show in two weeks on Saturday, the three 628 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: of September. All right, kid, you got it. My man 629 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: keep safe and thanks for having he's doing great job. 630 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: Thanks for We appreciate that. We appreciate guys like you. 631 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely God bless, I'm runing any of the Car Doctor. 632 00:32:42,080 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. You're back, coming back, Welcome back. 633 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: Weren't n the Car Doc. A couple of things you're 634 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: looking for. The website, it's dead Man's Curve USA dot com. 635 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: That's the website for the car show we're gonna be 636 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: at this Labor Day weekend or the Wild Weekend. Actually 637 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: they called their Wild hot Rod Weekend dead Men's Curve 638 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: USA dot com. They're gonna have an Elvis impersonator or 639 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: an Elvis tribute. I'm sorry, Uncle Floyd. The only way 640 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: I think you know who Uncle Floyd is. I think 641 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: you gotta be from New Jersey. Uh, there was an 642 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: Uncle Floyd and Oogie a million years ago, back when 643 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: I was a kid. But he'll be there and as 644 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: well as Eddie months there and Ericastrada from Chips and 645 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor will be there Saturday doing the radio 646 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: show live two to four pm. A couple of comments. 647 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: We were talking about real quick um a couple of 648 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: weeks ago. We're talking about how hackers and you know, 649 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: getting into the cars. Article came out Jeep hackers are 650 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: back with a scary new trick to security researchers detailed 651 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: an apparent hacking toeen jeep Cherokee, recently sharing their exploits 652 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: at the black Hat Hacker conference in Las Vegas. Charlie 653 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: Miller and Chris Vealessic, two hacking experts behind the stunt, 654 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: demonstrated to a Wired reporter last year how they're about 655 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: to access the SUVs computer system and then rewrite the 656 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: firmware to plant a malicious code allowing them to control 657 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: everything from Americ conditioning and music to the jeep steerings 658 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: and breaks. D da da da da da da. The 659 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: new tricks this year are scarier. The article goes on 660 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: to state, including unintended acceleration, the ability to turn the 661 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: vehicle steering wheel, and slam on the brakes of higher speeds. 662 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: Their previous research only allowed them to commandeer these features 663 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: that jeep was going slower than five miles an hour. 664 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: While last year's hack was done remotely, this year's required 665 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: a laptop directly plugged into the jeep's network located just 666 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: under its dashboard. Uh you know again, we're back to 667 00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: this self driving car automation depending upon on the machine 668 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: to do what it's supposed to do, and you just 669 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: have to ask yourself, you know, where is this gonna 670 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: end up? Uh? You know we were talking before the 671 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: show today. If you get out to the Facebook page, 672 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,479 Speaker 1: Tom posted a little cartoon about the police officer pulling 673 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: over the driverless car and you know, him calling into 674 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: headquarters and saying, hey, just pulled over a driverless car. 675 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: Who do I issue the ticket to the manufacturer, the owner, 676 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: the lawyer, the guy who wrote the software, et cetera. 677 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: And you know that's a very big part of the puzzle. 678 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: But you know, now we're talking about hacking. And remember 679 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: if you were here two hours ago, that's when this 680 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: show started today, and I was talking about you know, 681 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: last man standing in reference to you know, who's gonna 682 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: be the last guy? Who's gonna be the last repair shop? 683 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: Not gonna be me, I can tell you that, but 684 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: you know who's gonna be the last repair shop? And 685 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: hundred years from now when they look back and say 686 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: the the the early part of the twenty first century 687 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: was where we saw the demise of auto repair and 688 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: the auto repair shops going away. Things like this are 689 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: definitely pushing that trend to becoming a reality because you 690 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: know they're gonna You're gonna see. You want my prediction. 691 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: If they can hack into cars, watches, they take away 692 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: civil liberties. Now I'm gonna get on the black helicopter 693 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: conspiracy conversation and the government will sit there and say, 694 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: you know what, no self driving cars unless we take 695 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: control of the systems. Nobody pickses it unless you're a 696 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: government certified mechanic. I don't know. It's getting scary and 697 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: scarier out there each and every day. I'm not an 698 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor. Good mechanics, while you can 699 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: still find one, aren't expensive. They're priceless. Se