1 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: It's February seventeenth, and some of the biggest quarterback names 2 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: of the past decade or two are in limbo. Where 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: does Aaron Rodgers play in twenty twenty five? What about 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and the rest of the thirty something QB crowd. 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: We will tell you what we know is the countdown 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: to free agency continues. Some big decisions also await teams 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: on other high profile free agents and potential franchise tags. 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Our buddy Adam Rank will be here to break down 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: how things could play out for t Higgins, Chris Godwin 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: and many more. Meanwhile, it was only eight days ago 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: that the twenty twenty four season ended, and if you 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: missed any of the highlights, boy do we have a 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: treat for you. It is the world debut of the 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: season in four Consider this our four minute drill and 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: no we are not just trying to run out the clock. 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the insiders alongside Judy Matista, I am 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: Tom Pellisero. Happy President's Day to everybody who got to 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: enjoy a day with your kids at home driving you 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: completely nuts while you had to continue to go to 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: work and try to do your job. We had a 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: lot of excitement. Right now, Gene, we are three weeks 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: out from the free agent negotiating window opening. What excites 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: you most about the action that's to come here over 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: these next few weeks. 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: Well, not surprisingly, I want to see where all the 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: quarterbacks land. There's a whole lot of teams that need them, 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: and there's a whole lot of older ones available, so 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 2: I want to see how the musical chairs play out. 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: It'll all start tomorrow with the franchise tag opening. 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: That's right one day away from the tag opening. We'll 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: get to those quarterbacks in a second, but let's talk 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: about one of the top candidates for the franchise tag. 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: That is the Bengals standout receiver T Hates. My understanding 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: is the Bengals focus is on getting a long term 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: done deal done with T Higgins, something that Joe Burrow 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: would certainly be a big fan of. The hope I'm 37 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: told is that the franchise tag is not going to 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: be needed on Higgins. However, if the Bengals can't work 39 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: out the deal prior to March fourth, then a second 40 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: franchise tag is considered likely. This will be the second 41 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: tag for Higgins. Me it's one hundred and twenty percent 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: of last year's salary would come in a little over 43 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: twenty six million dollars. But in a year where a 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: free agent receiver like Higgins potentially get paid thirty million 45 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: dollars plus, it would make some financial sense. That tag 46 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: deadline still fifteen days away March fourth, so the Bengals 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: have time. One decision that has already been made by 48 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: the New York Jets. They announced that last week officially 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: that they are moving on in partying ways from Aaron 50 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: Rodgers after two seasons, one major injury, all of five wins, 51 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: and a lot of expectations that fell where well short obviously, Judy, 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: We'll talk more about the Jets where they go a 53 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: quarterback as this show rolls on, but let's start out 54 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: with a forty one year old four time NFL MVP. 55 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: Will not officially be released until March twelfth. That's a 56 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: cap calculation issue here, But because they announced it, teams 57 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: can talk to Aaron Rodgers right now. Well, I've been 58 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: told that there are certainly conversations happening, but doesn't seem 59 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: like anything is imminent. Where do you think this all leads? 60 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I look forward to hearing from 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, because we have not heard from him since 62 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: the Jets made their decision official that they would be 63 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: moving on from him. Presumably he wants to continue playing. 64 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: If that remains the case, I'm really curious to see 65 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 2: how this plays out, because again, presumably he will want 66 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: to go someplace where he can win. He doesn't want 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: to end his career on a five win season. Understandable, 68 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: but there are not that many teams in dire need 69 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: of a quarterback who are in a position to win 70 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: big next season. The Pittsburgh Steelers are probably the team 71 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: that you would look at and say, well, they've got 72 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: an unsettled quarterback situation. Would they be interested in Aaron Rodgers. 73 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: He would be an upgrade from their current situation. He 74 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: would be an upgrade for most of the teams that 75 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: need quarterbacks. But let's be clear about this, he is 76 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: not going to be a franchise savior. No matter where 77 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: he goes. He is going someplace to be a bridge quarterback. 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: He will want to win as much as he possibly 79 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: can here, but this is going to be a tricky 80 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: decision where he chooses to go. Again, he's a free agent, 81 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: so he will get to pick the landing spot. Very 82 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: interesting to see what teams are in a position to 83 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: offer him what he wants. And another thing, he is 84 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: going to have to fit into another team. This is 85 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: not a situation like the Jets where he's going to 86 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: go someplace and everything is going to be built around him. 87 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: And I've had comments by decision makers to me about 88 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: that is do you want all the other stuff? Even 89 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: though it seemed like in the Jets' locker room they 90 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: liked him, Aaron Rodgers the player, they found him to 91 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: be somebody who could leave that team. But there's a 92 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: variety of other things you're taking into consideration now. Historically speaking, 93 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: older former Packers MVP quarterbacks who go and have a 94 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: disappointing season with the Jets then go to the Vikings 95 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: try to win a Super Bowl. Minnesota's got other things 96 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: that they got to figure out first, starting out with 97 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Judy the rare twenty seven year old Pro 98 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: Bowl quarterback coming off of his best season. But you've 99 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: got to make the decision. Can you get it deal 100 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: done at a number that you can live with? Do 101 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: you tag him? Do you potentially tag and trade him? 102 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: A lot to consider when also remembering, oh, yeah, you 103 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: got your first round pick last year. JJ McCarthy waiting 104 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: in the wings. 105 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. This is to me the most interesting decision of 106 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: the offseason, And again it starts with the franchise tag 107 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: window opening tomorrow for the next two weeks. What do 108 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: they do with Sam Donald? Certainly, I think if you're 109 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: Sam Donald, the ideal situation would be to stay with 110 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: the Viking somehow. He had a career renaissance there with 111 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell. They won fourteen games, they were a wildcard team. 112 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: He played great for most of the season. However, as 113 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: you mentioned, JJ McCarthy is there. They loved him before 114 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: he got hurt in the preseason. So the question is 115 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: going to be do they want to keep Donald short term? 116 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: Does Donald want to stay someplace short term? Would he 117 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: prefer to go someplace that can offer him a longer 118 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: term contract. Certainly, if the Vikings let Donald go, that 119 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: tells you everything you need to know about where they 120 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: think JJ McCarthy is in his recovery. They then and 121 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: Key is prepared to become the starting quarterback. But as 122 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: you pointed out, they could also tag Sam Donald's and 123 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: try to trade him certainly. Again, there are plenty of 124 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: teams that need a quarterback, and he is a young 125 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: one who is coming off a really good season for 126 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: Sam Donald, I think the most important thing is going 127 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: to be finding the right fit. Where is the right 128 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: place for him to go. 129 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: The Viking's former starting quarterback, Kirk Cousins also potentially could 130 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: become available Judy in this off season, though to this point, 131 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: the Falcons have shown no signs that they are actually 132 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: going to move on from Cousins. They've got probably many 133 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: reasons to potentially do that, but he's owned twenty seven 134 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: point five million fully guaranteed this season. There's another bonus 135 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: that would best if he's still on the roster March sixteenth. 136 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: How does this send in Atlanta? 137 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: Well, certainly it seems that they are all in on 138 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: Michael Pennox. They're a young quarterback. They made the move 139 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: to him during the season last season, So we assume 140 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: that Kirk Cousins will not be there. That would be 141 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 2: a very unusual and awkward situation for him to still 142 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: be there. The question is can they find a trade 143 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: partner or are they going to have to release him? 144 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: Either way, again, this will be an interesting decision because 145 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: kirk Cousins is older, but most players coming off achilles 146 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: injuries are better in year two. As a matter of fact, 147 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers should be better. He was better at the 148 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: end of the season than he was at the beginning. 149 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: More time goes by, the better he should be. So 150 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins will probably be better next season than he 151 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: was the previous season. Could he, for instance, be in Cleveland, 152 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: which needs a quarterback with Deshaun Watson's own achilles injury 153 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: being an issue. Kirk Cousins is another very interesting case 154 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: about where he lands and where the right spot is 155 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: for him. 156 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins in a similar spot to Russell Wilson last 157 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: year up indeed's release, getting paid a lot of money 158 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: by somebody else, can play someplace for the minimum. Where 159 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: does that all lead Russell Wilson in twenty twenty. 160 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: Five, Well, let's just go back. Russell Wilson has been 161 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: adamant that he wants to be in Pittsburgh. He is 162 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: focused on Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh has a decision to make. Art 163 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: Rooney too, who is the owner of the team, has 164 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: said he expects to sign either Russell Wilson or Justin fields. 165 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: It would seem like they are going to tilt towards 166 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: Justin fields. He is younger. There was a lot of 167 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: support for him in the building last season, even though 168 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin made the switch to Russell Wilson, So that 169 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: means Russell Wilson will be on the move. Lots of 170 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: people have speculated could there be a reunion with Pete 171 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: Carroll in Las Vegas. Maybe he is another one older quarterback. 172 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: He would be a bridge guy to get you to 173 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: your younger guy. This is another one. He falls into 174 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: the pod of players who could maybe be an upgrade 175 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: for teams that really need a quarterback. But where does 176 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: he fit and who is going to want again a 177 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: late thirties quarterback who's looked at the end of last 178 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: season to be on the decline. 179 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: More on the quarterbacks later on in the show. Right now, though, 180 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: we're going to look at some of the potential members 181 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty five draft class down at the 182 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: HBCU Combine in New Orleans. Our Bucky Brooks and Steve White. 183 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: You're there, Bucket. 184 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: We just wrapped up the fourth combine for historically black 185 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: colleges and university prospects. Another good turnout to year. About 186 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: fifty players got to show off for all thirty two 187 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: teams which we were represented. But let's talk about the 188 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: big picture of this because not a ton of players 189 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: from HBCUs have gotten drafted the past few years, but 190 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: several who have participated in this combine have made NFL rosters. 191 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: It it's a great event. 192 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 4: It's a great events for HBCU players to really show 193 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: their whereas we've seen guys like Xavier Smith, Ian work 194 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: Ian Whiller, we've seen Brandon Cogginson use these opportunities to 195 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 4: jump start to NFL careers. Anytime you have an opportunity 196 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: to work out in front of thirty two teams, you 197 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 4: want to put on your best. This gives them a 198 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: chance to hear their name called eventually as a free agent, 199 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: if not a draftable prospect. 200 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 3: And one thing we hear from these players from the 201 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: smaller schools as well is I just want an opportunity. 202 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: How can a player like let's say from Florida A 203 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: and M project into the NFL just so many events 204 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 3: like this combine. 205 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 4: Well, this event is really big bline testing, so you 206 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 4: have an opportunity to test him their speed. 207 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: There letticism and agility. 208 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: But you also know as an evaluator, these guys haven't 209 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 4: been exposed to all of the things that are available 210 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 4: for guys to get ready for combines, and so you think, 211 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 4: if all things are considered, small schools standout who participates 212 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: well in these events, he might have more upside than 213 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 4: some of the other guys that we see on that. 214 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: I love that. 215 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: I love that. So let's get it some guys who 216 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: showed some upside and Irv Mulligan, the Jackson State running back, 217 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: the Swack offensive player of the year, came out here 218 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: around a four five five forty and caught the ball well, 219 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: Bucky And the one thing he told me that was 220 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: huge for him because they did not throw him the 221 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: ball very much at Jackson State. Yeah, there's big. 222 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: It's big to show those skills that you don't have 223 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: an opportunity to do a lot in the regular season. 224 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: So for Mulligan, that is being able to run the 225 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 4: football physically, He does all those things when you look 226 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 4: at Jackson State, but catching the ball out of the 227 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 4: backfield there was a big question. He answered that that 228 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 4: is going to help him and give him an opportunity 229 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 4: to get into. 230 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: A camp prototype met theie test too, man a prototype 231 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: NFL body about five ten, two hundred a player who 232 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: just jumped out though that we didn't know a ton about. 233 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: With North Carolina Central wide receiver Joaquin Davis sixty four, 234 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: about one hundred and ninety pounds blast a four four 235 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: four forty, and everybody paid attention after that. 236 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: They certainly paid attention to four to four catches your eyes. Obviously, 237 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 4: when you see someone dead's all that athletic kind of 238 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: put together dead time. But it's also the forty in 239 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: vertical as the game transitions to one where you have 240 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 4: to have guys that can be threast in the rezone. 241 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 4: Davis shows that his athleticism his explosiveness could make him 242 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 4: a viable threat in the next level. 243 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: And Virginia Union running back Jada Byers, who is probably 244 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: the biggest name coming into this event, caught the ball well, 245 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: did not run the forty the way he wanted to 246 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: hit it A four to eight four forty tough for him, 247 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: but he's got the rest of the week going to 248 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: the Austate Legacy Bowl to get things going. Let's hit 249 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: a couple guys on defense right here, and you know 250 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: let's talk about Kenda Bowler, the cornerback out of Florida 251 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: A and m again burns it up with a four 252 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,359 Speaker 3: or five forty. 253 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, four five forty times four cornerback is solid. But 254 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 4: also the athleticism to ball skills. You saw the footwork, 255 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: the quickness, the movement skills. Those are the things that 256 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 4: you look for as an evaluator. You liked the four 257 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: four time, but it's more than movement skills that stood. 258 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: Up to me and the guy everyone really came to 259 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: see defensively, Robert McDaniel, the safety at Jackson State. 260 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 4: You have another standout from Jackson to say, you talked 261 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 4: about long, athletic lean. You like to see those traits. 262 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 4: He's a guy that can line up in the box 263 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 4: and plan in the deep middle. He really helped himself with. 264 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: His work to six two two thirteen ran a four 265 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: five five forty. And you talk about someone who passes 266 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: the eye test, he looked good. It's several players here 267 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: at the HPCU combine back to it. 268 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: He gets the twenty twenty five HPCU Legacy Bowl this Saturday, 269 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: February twenty second, at three pm Eastern right here on 270 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: NFL Network. 271 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: This is certainly a site for Soris. If you can't 272 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: make that out that is on the field, Aiden Hutchinson running. 273 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: That's the first time we have seen that since he 274 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: broke his leg in the middle of last season. Very 275 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: good news for the Detroit Lions. He looks like he 276 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: will be back in plenty of time for next season. 277 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: And for more on the Lions, Let's welcome in our 278 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: Stacy Dal's Tom Pallisero joins me. Judy Batista Stacey. It 279 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: has been a very active offseason in Detroit that Staph 280 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: has gotten rated. That's a real compliment to them. Both 281 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: coordinators are now head coaches elsewhere, But that means Dan 282 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: Campbell has had to do an awful lot of hiring. 283 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: Let's start on the offensive side of the ball. Johnny 284 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: Morton is back. What are they going to get in him? 285 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, hello, Judy and Tom. I could watch that on 286 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 5: repeat with Aiden Hutchinson over and over. He was on 287 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 5: pace to be a defensive Player of the Year candidate. 288 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 5: And hopefully they're healthy offensively, you expect really no drop off, 289 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 5: Dan Campbell. Really you lose Ben Johnson, who's outstanding the 290 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 5: new Bears head coach. But Dan Campbell's not he's becoming 291 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 5: accustomed to losing coaches. I don't know if it's the 292 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 5: best way to say it, but a victim of his 293 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 5: own success, and so enter in John Morton. They have 294 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 5: a long history together, of course, who was the recently 295 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 5: the past game coordinator with the Denver Broncos under Sean Payton. 296 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 5: Sean Payton and that tree responsible for a lot of 297 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 5: the success of Dan Campbell in New Orleans and John 298 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 5: Morton in New Orleans. He's a former player. Dan Campbell 299 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 5: loves to hire former players to be coaches on his staff. 300 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 5: They're very relatable to the players. John Morton is a 301 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 5: very quarterback friendly coach, so that bodes well for Jared 302 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 5: Goff and this offense. Dan Campbell, if I'm not mistaken, 303 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 5: has used the word superstar to describe Dan Morton, and again, 304 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 5: excuse me, John Morton and working with bow Nicks last 305 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 5: year we saw the development of the rookie quarterback. Also notable, 306 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 5: just to throw in there, David Shaw obviously the greatest 307 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 5: coach out of Stanford in terms of football and winning 308 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 5: his coach in Stanford history and is known to develop 309 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 5: players as well and has great discipline in his coaching. 310 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 5: So a couple of great additions on the offensive side 311 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 5: of the football for Dan Campbell in this offense. 312 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: Kelvin Shepard another former player on that staff, Stacey. We 313 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: get to know him a little bit on Hard Knocks 314 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Here, what's he going to 315 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: be like in that DK funeral? 316 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 5: Tom, thanks for reminding us. Go back and watch that 317 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 5: hard knock stuff with Kelvin Shepherd. He spent obviously eight 318 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 5: years in the league, was a third round draft pick 319 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 5: out of LSU. He is so player friendly. These guys 320 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 5: love him and what he did with that linebacker group 321 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 5: one of the best in the NFL with Alexandzelonian company. 322 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: But he's also a media favorite. 323 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 5: You ask anybody on the Detroit Lions beat and Kelvin 324 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: Shepherd's name, it's not surprising he was elevated to the 325 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 5: defensive coordinator. And what he's going to do is, you 326 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 5: guys know Aaron Glenn right, the new head coach of 327 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 5: the Jets. He brings such fire and passion and energy, 328 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 5: there's going to be zero drop off with Kelvin Shepherd 329 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 5: as the new defensive coordinator. I think this is a 330 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 5: really exciting decision. And you're going to see really good 331 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 5: carryover with what we think guys will be a healthy defense. 332 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 5: Imagine what could have been had they not had all 333 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 5: those injuries throughout the course of the season, and all 334 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 5: the players upwards of sixteen seventeen guys on ir Kelvin 335 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 5: Shepherd's going to get to inherit that group with a 336 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 5: healthy Aiden Hutchinson. I'll also just throw in their Casey 337 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 5: Rodgers takes over the defensive line. We know about his 338 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 5: history with Bill Parcells and Todd Bowles and Tony Sperano, 339 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 5: some of the greats that we've ever had in the game, 340 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 5: and so that group should improve upfront as well after 341 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 5: some big losses to their staff. And we'll see how 342 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 5: Calvin Sheppard takes over. Though his energy there will be 343 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 5: no shortage. Ode I will assure you that. 344 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: Lots to look forward to in Detroit and Stacey, we 345 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: look forward to having you back on the show later on. 346 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: But first, when we return on The Insiders, our own 347 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: Adam Rank is going to join us to talk about 348 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: upcoming free agents, who should stay, who should go, including 349 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: this guy t Higgins who maybe is going to be 350 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: staying in Cincinnati after all. When we come back on 351 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: the Insiders. 352 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: The window for teams to apply the franchise tag opens 353 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and certainly one of the top candidates is 354 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: the Bengals standout wide receiver T Higgins, who otherwise would 355 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: be one of the top players in all of free agency. 356 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: My understanding is the Bengals remain focused on getting a 357 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: long term deal done with Higgins. However, if they can't 358 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: get one done before the March forth tag deadline, and 359 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: it is considered likely that they would tag Higgins for 360 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: a second time, bring him back for about twenty six 361 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: million dollars. Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Pellisero, Judy 362 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: Batize that join now by our buddy Adam Rank. And 363 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: what do you know, Ranks got a story right now 364 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: about exactly what certain players who are penny for agents 365 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: should be thinking about in terms of should they stay 366 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: or should they go? Might not be up to T Higgins. 367 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: Rank and tell me should he, from his perspective, stay 368 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: or go in Cincinnati? 369 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 6: Well, I really truly believe that the best opportunity for 370 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 6: him is to stay in Cincinnati and play with Joe 371 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 6: Burrow and Jamar Chase. And it's easy for me to 372 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 6: say obviously, he would be probably the most sought after 373 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 6: free agent if he was given an opportunity to truly 374 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 6: be a free agent. 375 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: But as I was talking to. 376 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 6: Dan Hord, the great play by play announcer for the 377 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 6: Cincinnati Bengals, down at the Super Bowl last week, you 378 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 6: know this, this Bengals team is now really taking care 379 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 6: of their players. You know, years ago they might have 380 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 6: been a little bit more frugal, but it feels like 381 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 6: now this organization has made a great shift and do 382 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 6: really focusing in on these homegrown talents that they've had. 383 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 6: So if they can find an agreeable number with T Higgins, 384 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 6: I think it's best for everybody if he remains in Cincinnati. 385 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: You know who, It's best for Joe Burrow, who is 386 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 2: going to be delighted if T Higgins actually ends up 387 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. He has been pushing and pushing and pushing 388 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: and pradding Bengals management over the last few months or 389 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: so to pay their guys, keep their guys. This is 390 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 2: going to be a really big offseason for the Bengals 391 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: because they've got a lot of contracts to do, But 392 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: this would be the one that keeps that explosive offense, 393 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: assuming they get Jamar Chase done too, keeps everything intact 394 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 2: going forward. 395 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the Bengals keep t Higgins from hitting the 396 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: open market. Rank and maybe the top wide receiver out 397 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: there is Chris Godwin, who's already gotten paid once on 398 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: a second contract coming off of a significant injury. Should 399 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: he want to stay or go from Tampa Bay? 400 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, and he had another injury this past season, But 401 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 6: I think that if he gets an opportunity to hit 402 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 6: the open market, I would love to see him get 403 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 6: that chance to get another big payday. I still think 404 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 6: he has a lot of good football left in him. 405 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 6: So if he was given a chance to go out 406 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 6: there and test the market, and you know there's going 407 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 6: to be a number of teams who are going to 408 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 6: be looking for wide receiver help, I think the Rams 409 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 6: could be one of those teams in the mix. At 410 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 6: Cooper Cup is going to leave the team, as a 411 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 6: lot of us expect, I would like to see him 412 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 6: get a chance. And obviously for the Bengals or for 413 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 6: excuse me from the Buccaneers perspective, Jalen McMillan looks like 414 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 6: he is going to develop into a really nice player, 415 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 6: so it might be an opportunity where both of them 416 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 6: realize that, hey, it's time to move on, no hard 417 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 6: feelings and go out there and hit that open market. 418 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: God, when you remember, was off to a scorching start 419 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 2: before he suffered the injury last season, so he presumably 420 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: still has plenty left in the tank. All right, let's 421 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: look at defense, Khalil Mack. Should he stays, should he 422 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: go still really productive? 423 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 424 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 6: You know what, And Khalil Mack, I guess we'd be 425 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 6: labeled as somebody who wants to be a ring chaser, 426 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 6: somebody who's going to go cash in at the end 427 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 6: of his career. 428 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: What should he do? Well, here's the thing. 429 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 6: The Chargers have become a team that now are in 430 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 6: their super Bowl window, and. 431 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 1: They went out there. 432 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: They shocked me. 433 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 6: They did a lot better than I thought they were 434 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 6: going to do in Jim Harbaugh's first season. But when 435 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 6: you look at the history of Jim Harbaugh, they continue 436 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 6: to get better. He's done it in San Francisco, he 437 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 6: did it at Stanford, he did it at Michigan. I 438 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 6: think there's a real opportunity for this Chargers team to 439 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 6: make a further advance in the playoffs this season and 440 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 6: now that you're starting to build that culture. Jim Harbaugh, 441 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 6: you can't let guys like Khalil Mack go, so I 442 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 6: would do whatever it takes from the Chargers perspective. But 443 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 6: for Khalil Mack, I think he's found a really good 444 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 6: situation and I would stay if I were advising him. 445 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: Still playing at a high level, you don't see top 446 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: pass rushers hit the market very often here, so even 447 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: at more advanced age for Khalil Mack, there's probably a 448 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: pretty good payday still out there for him. Sam donaldywhile 449 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: still only twenty seven years old, feels like he's been 450 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: around forever here rank but coming off his best season, 451 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: he goes to the Pro Bowl. In almost any other 452 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: situation you go, they have to bring him back, but 453 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: they've also got young Jaj McCarthy waiting in the wings. 454 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: A lot of moving partsure for Minnesota. Should Sam Donald 455 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: want a state or go well. 456 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 6: I was listening to Judy earlier in the show, and 457 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 6: I agree with her. I think that's Sam Donald's best 458 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 6: situation for him is staying with the Minnesota Vikings and 459 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 6: with a coach who is able to really unlock what 460 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 6: he was able to do last season. Obviously getting to 461 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 6: the Pro Bowl, getting fourteen wins for the Minnesota Vikings. 462 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 6: So I look at it a lot like Baker Mayfield. 463 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 6: You know, obviously Baker Mayfield the Tampa Bay Buccaneers didn't 464 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 6: have a young emerging quarterback behind him, but still went 465 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 6: back to the team that he found the most success 466 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 6: with and gave it a go. And honestly, you know, 467 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 6: we don't know what we're going to get out of 468 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy. So if I'm the Vikings, I think it 469 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 6: would behoove them to bring back Sam Darnold as well. 470 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com slash rank that's where you can get 471 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: a lot more of that anything else you want to 472 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: break down for us rightfore? 473 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 6: You know what, Yeah, you know what, Listen, I come 474 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 6: on this network and I love talking about myself and 475 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 6: my accomplishment. So I want to I want to shout 476 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 6: out my soccer team by yeah, my you ten girls 477 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 6: team Fearless. They were shouted out. They were shouted out 478 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 6: by Travis kelcey during the Monday night, the Super Bowl night. 479 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 6: But you know what, we went out a couple of 480 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 6: weeks ago. We won our area tournament. We won all 481 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 6: we were, we were we were undefeated. Uh did allowed 482 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 6: just one goal. Then we went to the sectionals this weekend, 483 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 6: had another great run. Unfortunately our time ran out in 484 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 6: the finals. But want to shout them out. I'm so 485 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 6: proud of them. So before I cry on this network 486 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 6: once again, I just want to thank Team Fearless for 487 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 6: everything they did for me over the course of the season. 488 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: And I can't wait to see them again. Now, keep 489 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: the eyes forward here, Ranks. I've told four of those 490 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: little girls in that photo. Also, free agents coming up. 491 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: You're going to need to figure out you have the 492 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: cap space to keep that nucleus together. Look forward to 493 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: talking with you again very soon. There's a lot of 494 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: decisions around the league, by the way, at the quarterback position, 495 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: especially when you look in the top ten of this draft. 496 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: The Titans need a QB, the Browns need one, the 497 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: Giants are in that territory, the Raiders, the Jets, and 498 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. Let's go through some of 499 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: these here, Judy, starting out with what should be the 500 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: Titans plan and number one and to fill out their 501 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: quarterback position. 502 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: Can I just say that we're going to have a 503 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: whole lot more clarity after free agency, actually after the 504 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: combine when we get a better idea of how these 505 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 2: teams feel about the quarterbacks who are in the draft. 506 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: Having said that, what should the Titans do? Well, If 507 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 2: they love one of the top two quarterbacks, they should 508 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: take them cam Ward or Shudur Sanders. If they don't, 509 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: they made a comment early on about not passing on 510 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: a generational player, So do they think somebody else, for instance, 511 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: is a generational player, maybe a Travis Sumter, maybe an 512 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: obdual quarter If that is the case, might they move 513 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 2: down a few spots still get that generational player pick 514 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: up more draft capital. You could see a whole lot 515 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: of things going on for the Tennessee Titans. They need 516 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: a lot They obviously need a quarterback, but we'll see 517 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: how they're feeling as the days go on about the 518 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 2: quarterback class. 519 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: Brown's also in position to get one of those top 520 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: two guys. They are tied to de Shaun Watson for 521 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: another two years ninety two million, but his status at 522 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: this point up in the air for twenty twenty five 523 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: after a second tear of his achilles. What do the 524 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: Browns do to get that QB room right. 525 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: Again? This will be a lot clearer once we get 526 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: through free agency. It certainly appears that Deshaun Watson will 527 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: not be their quarterback, at least to start this season 528 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: and perhaps for the entire season, and maybe he never 529 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: plays for the Cleveland Browns. Again, with that in mind, 530 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 2: they've got to get a quarterback, whether it is a 531 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: veteran or they draft one. Again, do they love one 532 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: of the top quarterbacks in this draft? If not, are 533 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: they going to sign a veteran or trade for a 534 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: veteran during free agency that would also free them up 535 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: to take another player. This is a team that has 536 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: some weapons. The other issue on their plate is Miles 537 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: Garrett and his trade request. What happens there and will 538 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 2: that impact what they need to do in the draft? 539 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: Giants number three right in your backyard, Judy, This has 540 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: been an ongoing question here. What do they do a quarterback? 541 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: I mean, they need to get a quarterback, It's as 542 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: simple as that. And again, do they love one of 543 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: these two? Because if they do, they're probably going to 544 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: have to move up in the draft. Do they feel 545 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: as strong enough conviction about one of the top two 546 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 2: guys to give up capital to move up? Is there 547 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: somebody in free agency they would like one of the 548 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: veterans that they prefer over one of these two guys 549 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: in the draft. We will see. But the bottom line 550 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: is the Giants have to come out of this offseason 551 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: with a solid answer at quarterback. They have Tommy Devido 552 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: on the roster. That is not a viable solution. 553 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: The Raiders had a lot of speculation around them last 554 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: year going into the draft. Would they get a quarterback? 555 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: They did not, Then everybody got fired. It's a completely 556 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: new regime here. The sil Gardner Minshew under contract with 557 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: some guaranteed money, So they O'Connell under contract. What do 558 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: they do and how much of your revolves around what 559 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: they're doing at number six? 560 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 2: Again, they need a quarterback and they have to find 561 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: I think what's so interesting about this is Tom Brady's 562 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: role in this, and Mark Davis wants Tom Brady to 563 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: have a significant role in all of these big decisions. 564 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: So how does Tom Brady assess the quarterback situation? Does 565 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: he like any of the guys in the draft? Does 566 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: he like any of the veteran quarterbacks? He better than 567 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 2: anybody knows what it is to bring in an older 568 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: veteran quarterback and make it work. Don't forget though, the 569 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: Raiders have so many other needs. Pete Carroll has also 570 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: indicated that he would like to be able to run 571 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: the ball. We know that is something, so could they 572 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: look towards a running back in the draft and perhaps 573 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: get a veteran quarterback during free agency? 574 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: The Jets say it with me, Judy need a quarterback, 575 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: particularly after announcing their partying ways with Aaron Rodgers after 576 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: two seasons. Here at seven though, you're kind of in 577 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: that middle there. We're either going to have to go 578 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: up and get one or you're going to have to 579 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: get creative in some other fashion to fill out that 580 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: spot for twenty twenty five. 581 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: It's also worth saying this, We know this once we 582 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: get into the combine and the run up to the draft, 583 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: that quarterbacks start getting pushed up the draft order, right. 584 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: We see this every year, So we'll see if that 585 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: happens this year. Having said that the Jets need a quarterback, yes, 586 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 2: they also need a whole lot of other stuff. They 587 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: need a defensive tackle, they need more wide receivers because 588 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: presumably Devonte Adams is not going to be on the 589 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: team either, in addition to Aaron Rodgers. So yes, they 590 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 2: need a quarterback. Would they move up to get one 591 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: of the top two. I don't know. Might they like 592 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: any of the ones who will go later in the 593 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: first round, We don't know yet. There are a whole 594 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 2: lot of moving parts. Everything is new at the Jets. 595 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: What will Aaron Glenn want his signature move to be. 596 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: All his former other coordinator in Detroit, Ben Johnson, now 597 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: coaching the Bears. They don't need a quarterback. They think 598 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: they got the guy in Caleb Williams. They're hoping they've 599 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: now got the head coach to unlock him as we 600 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: head into twenty twenty five. So what else does Ben 601 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: Johnson have up his sleeve? If history is any guide 602 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: a lot. Stacy Dales will be with us right after 603 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: this to talk about what Ben's gonna do with Caleb. 604 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 2: It's the Insiders, the NFL Combine presented by Microsoft co Pilot, 605 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: where a dream that starts small can get big and 606 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: a name that's unknown can become the future. Next is 607 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: here the twenty twenty five NFL Combine February twenty seventh 608 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: through March second on NFL Network and streaming on NFL Plus. 609 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: And now let's welcome back our Stacy Dales, who I 610 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: know is going to be at the combine along with 611 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: Tom Pellisaro. I'm gdpatist, So we're all going to be 612 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: in Indianapolis before we know it. Stacy. First, let's talk 613 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: about the Chicago Bears. You live there, Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams. 614 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: What is Ben Johnson going to work on right away 615 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: with Caleb? 616 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 5: Oh, my goodness, He's going to spend so much time 617 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 5: with Caleb Williams. He's probably going to become annoying to 618 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 5: Caleb Williams. But that's a good thing. He told me 619 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 5: when I interviewed him on his you know, basically his 620 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 5: first day in his introductory press conference, that you see 621 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 5: right there, they are going to spend so much time together, 622 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 5: like as much as humanly possible in a healthy way, 623 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 5: a constructively positive way, in a productive way. And he 624 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 5: will be tasked with doing a few things and helping 625 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 5: Caleb build on learning cadence in the NFL, because he 626 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 5: really did some wondrous things with Jared goff as good 627 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 5: as Jared Goff is and another former first round quarterback, 628 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 5: and figuring out an offense that best suits Caleb Williams, 629 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 5: that is efficient, getting him to play with efficiency, getting 630 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 5: him to play with accuracy. He struggled on those explosive 631 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 5: throws downfield, like twenty plus air yard throws. That passer 632 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 5: rating dropped substantially. The accuracy was off and really just 633 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 5: proper timing with his playmakers. But it's all going to 634 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 5: start up front. We know how good the Detroit offensive 635 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 5: line was. Caleb Williams was sacked sixty eight times last season, 636 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 5: which I believe is second most for a rookie all time. 637 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 5: They are going to have to rebuild that group up front, 638 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 5: and they've got a bunch of free agents on the 639 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 5: list at Tevin Jenkins, Matt pryor Coleman Shelton, and I 640 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 5: just think really Ryan Poles is going to have to 641 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 5: target this draft with offensive line studs that they can 642 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 5: build a foundation for their quarterback in a run game 643 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 5: as well. 644 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 1: So beyond O line, Stacy, what else do the Bears 645 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: need to address here as we head into free agency 646 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: in the draft? Well, Tom, it is the O line. 647 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 5: It's I mentioned the free agents, but the poorest play 648 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 5: that we saw really on the interior and the defensive line. 649 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 5: To up those forty sacks from a season ago and 650 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 5: give Montes Sweat some help up front Keenan Allen. 651 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: They're going to have to make. 652 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 5: A decision on him in free agency. 653 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: That's a big one. 654 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 5: Remember he was on a one year deal. But for me, 655 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 5: the trenches for the Chicago Bears and the really domino 656 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 5: there is the run game. And so in this draft, 657 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 5: the Bears have nine picks currently, but they have four, 658 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 5: you guys through seventy two, and that is ten thirty 659 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 5: nine forty one seventy two. 660 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: Those are all really good draft picks. 661 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 5: And this draft is going to be so deep with 662 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 5: defensive lineman, defensive tackles, edge rushers. I was texting with 663 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 5: Daniel Jeremiah today. I'm so excited getting my cards ready 664 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 5: for the combine. But you know, I'm really looking at 665 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 5: this offensive line group, the interior players. You know, we 666 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 5: know about Gray's abel of North Dakota State. Do they 667 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 5: target a center like a Jared Wilson out of Georgia 668 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 5: or a Seth McLoughlin out of Ohio State and go 669 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 5: get a centerpiece. I'll say that pun intended for the 670 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 5: future to really certify the middle of their offensive line. 671 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 5: And like I said, there's going to be a ton 672 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 5: of defensive linemen drafted early and often, and I think 673 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 5: though for the Bears, they really need to target the 674 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 5: trenches and I'm guessing that they will. 675 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: Stacy, thank you very much. Look forward to seeing a 676 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: lot of you at the combine and talking a lot 677 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: more about this HSBCU we kicked off today in New Orleans. 678 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: They look at some of the running back drills here, 679 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: top draft eligible prospects from HBCUs getting an opportunity to 680 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: show what they can do in front of scouts from 681 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: all thirty two teams that included Jackson State standout running 682 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: back Irv Mulligan, who caught up with our Steve. 683 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 3: Watch all right erby came out here strong performance here 684 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: at the combine forty times around the four or five 685 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 3: caught the ball. Well, what do you think you showed 686 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: all the scouts out. 687 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 7: Here today that you know, all AHBCU guys, you know 688 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 7: we got talent too. It's not just the big schools 689 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 7: like the Alabama's, the Clinton you know those Natures a SPC. 690 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 7: You guys can ball as well. So I came ahead 691 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 7: and not just to perform for myself, to put on 692 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 7: for all the HPC guys and perform for them and 693 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 7: give them confidence as well. Because there's a lot of 694 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 7: guys that wish they could be here today and they wasn't, 695 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 7: so I had to put on for them and show out, 696 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 7: you know. 697 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 2: So that's what I did. 698 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: So I been saying that though you were the swack 699 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: offensive player of the year twelve hundred rushing yards in 700 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 3: just ten games, because you were coming off of an 701 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 3: ankle surgery missed the first few games. So your film, sir, 702 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: this is part of it. But what do you think 703 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 3: you showed on film that can entice one of these 704 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 3: teams to bring you in. 705 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 7: I showed that, for one, I'm a dominant guy in 706 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 7: the run game. I showed similar trace as current guys 707 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 7: in the league right now, like you know Alva Camaro 708 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 7: cook things of that nature. So I showed them that, 709 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 7: you know, I could be all around back, especially today. 710 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 7: They didn't see me get in the passing game a 711 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 7: lot during the season, but today I really showcase that. 712 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 7: Because I'll be honest, that was one of my weaknesses 713 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 7: some of my scouting reports. So I wanted to come 714 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 7: out here and show that I can really catch the ball. 715 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 7: I can catch it just as good as a wide receiver. 716 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 7: If they want to put me a slot. I can 717 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 7: play a slot receiver, so I'm a very versatile guy, 718 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 7: and I wanted to show that I'm all around back 719 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 7: because on film I did show that the all around back. 720 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: Okay, you got the guy. They got practices this week 721 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 3: for the AHPCU Legacy Bowl coming up on Saturday. Get 722 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: the pads on, get to play actual football. What do 723 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: you really want to show from here on out? 724 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 7: I just showed that, you know, I can move on 725 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 7: the field, I can catch the football. So the main 726 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 7: thing for me is I want to show them that 727 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 7: I can also protect the quarterback. When the linebackers come 728 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 7: we do one on one blocking, I'm gonna. 729 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: Show them that. 730 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 7: Just just like I called every ball today, I wanna 731 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 7: block every line back at practice. So that's my mindset. 732 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 7: I'm really focused on blocking from this like point on. 733 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 7: You know, they know I can run the ball, now 734 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 7: they know I can catch, so I want to show 735 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 7: them that I can block and protect the quarterback. 736 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 3: All right, good luck to the way off the good start. 737 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, thank you. You can catch IRV Bulligan and 738 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: the rest of the players in the twenty twenty five 739 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: HBCU Legacy Bowl this Saturday, February twenty second at three 740 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: pm Eastern. You thought football was over, Not yet. It's 741 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: right here Saturday on NFL Network. The Super Bowl course 742 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: ended the twenty twenty four NFL season eight days ago, 743 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: and Isaiah Rodgers Senior wasting absolutely no time getting a 744 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: gigantic leg tattoo to commemorate that is. That's when you're 745 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: showing off at the pool in the summer. Makai Becton 746 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: also adding the Lombardi Trophy to his biceps. Right there. 747 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: McKay might have a new team in twenty twenty five, 748 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: but for now and forever, he's a Super Bowl champ. 749 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: All which brings us to this very important question, Judy Batista, 750 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: if there were one accomplishment in your professional life that 751 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: you would want to commemorate with a tattoo, what would 752 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: it be. 753 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 2: There's nothing that I would commemorate with a tattoo, No chance, 754 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 2: especially not on the Somebody has to explain to me, 755 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 2: doesn't it hurt to have a tattoo on your calf? 756 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: That looks like it would really hurt a lot. 757 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: Believe most tattoos hurd in one regard or another. Some 758 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: area is certainly more sensitive. I think I personally, I 759 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: would do like the ironic version of this where you know, 760 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: in sixth grade, I was part of the winning team 761 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: in my house league basketball and I still got I 762 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: was looking in the garage for some of the our 763 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: day found like this enormous trophy. I would get that 764 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: like a full chess tattoo of the sixth grade house 765 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: league basketball champs trophy, just all the way across. It 766 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: would yield so many conversations. Again, when you're on spring 767 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: break or something, a man, you look like you really 768 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: accomplished something there. While I don't have bragg, but I 769 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: was twelve years old and the Royal Blue team Hornsteam 770 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: for the title. I think that's the direction that I 771 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: would want to go. Three weeks out from today, by 772 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: the way, we are at the NFL's freege negotiating window, 773 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: one of the many checkpoints to come here in the 774 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: next couple of months. Of course, the NFL scouting combine 775 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: begins one week from today. The on field drills begin 776 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: on that Thursday, franchise tag window opening up tomorrow offseason workouts. 777 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: They are like six weeks away at this point and 778 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: all leading us up to the twenty twenty five NFL 779 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: Draft in Green Bay Wisconsin, where Judy is somebody who 780 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: lives in Minneapolis. I'm hoping the cold snap. They had 781 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: a minus fifteen before my kids were getting up this 782 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: I hope that goes away before April. What do you think? 783 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 2: I will probably be standing outside the Giants facility for 784 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: like the fifth year in a row. It's always cold 785 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 2: out there. 786 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: And if they don't take a quarterback, we can make 787 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: it six. Thanks everybody for watching The Insiders. We are 788 00:37:41,040 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: back at seven pm Eastern tomorrow. See Dame Beloved Sain