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Come in 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: and explore and see what other deals you can find. 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Quick reminder that tomorrow the Gary and Shannon Show will 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: be a bravery brewing in Lancaster doing one of their 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: news and brewis the entire show from ten to two. 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: Very exciting, John, they'll be cornhole to play m p no. 23 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: But I'd like to hold pizza beer prices. That's tomorrow 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: in Lancaster. I heard Chanlenge cornhole and I guess they're 25 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: unveiling the KFI uh Brew Oh k I p a right? 26 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: We have our own? Yes? Yeah, just well where is 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: don't we get one? Well, it's it's being introduced tomorrow 28 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: as well. We shouldn't have probably bring some back? What 29 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: we should We should get a sample, an advanced taste. 30 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: I think it's debuting tomorrow. That's the whole idea to 31 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: really build up the They named it, but I would 32 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: have thought it would have been a KFI shard nay her. 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: I just well, well we'll look forward to that. Somebody 34 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: should bring us a bottle. I've already told Jacob I 35 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: wanted some, so I'll get you some. And there's been 36 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: a trio of deaths today that we're announced the actor 37 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: Ray Leota from Goodfellas died. We don't have Ray here, 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: so I don't know about the Google pool. I can't 39 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: really answer. Yeah, that would have been a tough one 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: for people to sixty seven, died in his sleep. He 41 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: was in a film shoot in the Dominican Republic. The 42 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: founding member one of the founding members of Depeche Mode, 43 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: Andy Fletcher, a keyboardist, died at sixty and Alan White, 44 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: long time drummer for the rock group Yes, died at 45 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: seventy two. So just weird thing. They all just came 46 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: within a few hours of each other. What we're gonna 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: do now at one eight hundred five to zero, I'm 48 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: going slow because I don't know what to expect. One, five, three, four. 49 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: We're fully loaded. We got all ten. That doesn't mean anything. Well, 50 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: we got ten choice remember the cats, I know, but 51 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: I'm saying we have material to play with here. So 52 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna pick and choose who you want to think 53 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: you might have a point. I'm gonna start going in 54 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: order here. This is your reaction. What do we need 55 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: to do after the latest mass shooting in Texas or 56 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: as I said, maybe nothing. We have to live with 57 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: this part of life. Don't try to come up with 58 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: something you think would work instead of all the oh yeah, 59 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: don't get in the weeds, tired cliches and arguments. Yeah, 60 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't you get in the weeds, will pull the plug. 61 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear a gun esoteric descriptions. Let's 62 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: start with Griff. Griff, you're on the John and Ken Show. 63 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: What do you think we ought to do well? I'm 64 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: living in Australian Indonesia. I'm in Native California, grew up 65 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: in South Bay. I pulled my daughters out of the 66 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: country in the mid nineties and the mid two thou 67 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: fifteens because of the school shootings. So I will say 68 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: there's a two pronged approach. The immediate and original effect 69 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: is locked down the schools. The other one is the 70 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: social Internet is unregulated. You regulate radio and TV. You 71 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: can allow kids to be destroyed online. That's my point. 72 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: But that's a consider. Are you calling from Australia. No, 73 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: I'm in Indonesia. My wife's Indonesia, so I've in my 74 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: house in Jakarta. But we've retired in Australia. And I'm 75 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: telling you my nephew, who worked for Google in San Francisco, 76 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: lived there permanently. My daughter lives there permanently. It's like 77 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: America in the nineteen fifties. It's amazing. Yeah, no, I 78 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: think our culture has really gotten poisoned badly by by 79 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: social media. What time do we come on the air 80 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: in Indonesia? Well, I mostly use your podcast right now, 81 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,559 Speaker 1: it's at seven o'clock, so you come on pretty early, 82 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: about five or four am. But I love you guys. 83 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: You remind me of you know, the old days of 84 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: Jerry Rest and Roy Rogers and the TLAMA. So so 85 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: it's it's seven am tomorrow morning, where you are a 86 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: word day a hit. Yeah, okay, yeah, let us know 87 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: what happens. Yeah, how is Friday going so far? Well 88 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: it's great. You know, Jakarta is a bit of a 89 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: third world capital. But I'm flying home to Australia on 90 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: Monday morning. But you know two things about what our 91 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: culture used to be. If you're an Australian, you go 92 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: out in the crowd and you look and you see 93 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: two or three hundred people, you cannot find more than 94 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: one person on their phone. We've been lost to the 95 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: technology and the social media. Our our society. I don't 96 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: think it can recover. Yeah, all right, very good, thank you. 97 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: Time for us to go. You know, like Australia. Australia 98 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: sounds pretty good. I think. You know what's interesting is 99 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: when you get out of our culture, like grifted for 100 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: a while and you see other people how they live, 101 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: you don't you realize how just stupid and toxic our 102 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: culture is. You know, we've we've we've got all this 103 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: free them here that most a lot of other places don't, 104 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: but we use it for chest awful stuff. And I 105 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: to me, the world changed a lot around twenty ten 106 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, and it's when it's when iPhones became ubiquitous, 107 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: and then the social media exploded, and it was about 108 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: then that I noticed a lot changed. And it's it's 109 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: it's only gotten worse, a lot of it. I thought 110 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: maybe would be passing fads, but no, it's it's becoming 111 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: trench now. And now you have a whole generation who's 112 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: coming into the world and this is all they've known. 113 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: And I sometimes try to put my mind into their heads. 114 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: It's like, well, so what would be my perception of 115 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: the world is if this the last ten years was 116 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: all I knew. Uh, let's go to Neil. You're on 117 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 1: the Johnny Ken Show on CAFI. Yeah, sure, Hey, So 118 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: I think the whole point is is that, according to 119 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: the American Psychiatrics Association and the Humane Society. Statistically, virtually 120 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: every serial killer and mass murderer started by torturing or 121 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: abusing or killing animals when they were young. So therefore, 122 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: I believe we should be teaching our children vegan family values. 123 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, Johnson, I believe. I think Debor 124 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: is actually dancing in your studio and waving her arms. 125 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: That's right, this is true, great point. Author of the 126 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: book The Conscious Planet. I'm Neil M. Pine, author of 127 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: the book The Conscious Planet of vegan books. So if 128 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: we stopped eating meat, we'd had more respect for human 129 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: life too, Yes, and we'd also have eleven hundred and 130 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: seventy five percent more water if everyone we're vegan, because 131 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: forty seven percent of all the waters going for animal 132 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: agriculture crops and raising the animals. And what about their point, 133 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: I've always heard that meat eaters are more aggressive. Well 134 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: not if you're a mathrobiotic vegan that drinks sweet grass 135 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: every day like me, sweet grass. I feel I walked 136 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 1: into a weird church. Really, how did that call get? Okay? 137 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: All right, Mark Screen, all right, all right, well thanks 138 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: very much, Neil, Thanks thanks for coming on. I know 139 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: he was legit. I actually thought he was just being 140 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: a bit of a prankster by, you know, just pushing 141 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: the vegan diet that he's written the books though, I 142 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 1: was waiting for the punchline. And yeah, we both waiting 143 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: for it. Realize he's actually pushing a vegan diet. All right, 144 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: Well we will get two more of you. Right, we're 145 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: gonna keep going, or yes, you can call this. This 146 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: is a good start. Okay, you're liking so far, all right, 147 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: we are asking people to chime in whatever dancing. I'm happy. Right, 148 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: it's a crackdown on social media and vegan diets for everyone. Okay, 149 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: well one for two more coming up? Tryning had they 150 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: believe Steve Glegy because he cursed? We do that the 151 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: whole show. Yeah, you know something the last guy we 152 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: had on, Oh it's a k f I am six 153 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: forty live everywhere on the I Heart radio app, including 154 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: right now in Jakarta, Indonesia where it's seven in the morning. 155 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: And our first caller called in from Jakarta. So this 156 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: this this iHeart radio app. This is no hype. This 157 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: is the real dailier. Um Anyway, what and what that 158 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: guy called because we're having people call in with their 159 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: idea on how to do something about the school shootings. 160 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: And what he said is we the radio and TV 161 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: is highly regulated for language and content, right, god for 162 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: but not satellite and yeah. But the thing is, if 163 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: I dropped an public airwaves, yeah, the S bomb or 164 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: the F bomb here, right, there'd be a government investigation 165 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: and tens of thousands of dollars in fines. Yeah. Right, 166 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean that they find Howard Stern in his stations 167 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars for some of the indecent 168 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: stuff that he did years ago. So it's a real 169 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: thing that we have to be conscious of. But on 170 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: social media, I mean, do you know a group I 171 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: think it was in Myanmar actually organized a genocide online 172 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: on Facebook and pulled it off and they never did 173 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: anything to stop it. Yeah, having some of the terrorists 174 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: planned attacks, yes, yeah, Terrier's groups plant attacks. There are 175 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: people who have like live streamed murders and rapes and 176 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: all kind kinds of stuff. But geez, if I use 177 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: the S word, you know, we gotta have that we 178 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: have that kind of government control like China does. I mean, 179 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: but it's just it's just completely out of whack. The 180 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: stuff we're afraid of, the stuff we have regulations against 181 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to communications, is utterly harmless. The stuff 182 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: that actually leads to people dying in big numbers, no problem, 183 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: No problem. Because Facebook is the one that's trying to 184 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: keep the murders off screen. It's not the government. The 185 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: government has no role right now in regulating the violence 186 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: and all the sickness going on in social media. In fact, 187 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: they're creating the opportunities. I'm telling you, Without these these 188 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: horrific chat rooms that have popped up on the Internet, 189 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: you'd have fewer murders because these guys inspire one another, 190 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: They encourage one another to do this. All right, let's 191 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: go back online here, put laires on Lars. You're on 192 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: the John and Ken Show. Yeah, hi, hi um. Our 193 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: problem is street crime, and it's you would federalize all 194 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: gun crimes and make it a five year mandatory sentence 195 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: with the first offense. That would go a long way 196 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: and stop mystry crime. But the Democrats refused to do 197 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: that because they don't want to put a lot of 198 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: minorities in prison. You mentioned earlier in your broadcast that 199 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: George Gascon is not plussed is not using gun enhancement. Lastly, 200 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: you have to arm every one of the teachers. It 201 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: has to be a part of their uniform. One of 202 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: those teachers had a gun something may have been able 203 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: to stop this guy. All right, thank you very much, Lars. 204 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: I don't think most of the teachers are going to 205 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: want to carry a gun, not like I don't think 206 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: you can force people to carry. Let's go to a teacher. 207 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: Can you put Tracy online? Five? Tracy? Yeah, Hey, hey, hey, 208 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm a third grade teacher of thirty five years, and 209 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of associative passes in the making. 210 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: I believe if I had an opportunity to put some 211 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: names in a database in third grade, then the sixth 212 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: grade teachers put their names, and sime grade teachers, and 213 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, every three years, if that same name shows 214 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: up two or three times, you got to watch that. Kids. Okay, 215 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: we ask you this. Have you ever have you ever 216 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: traced anybody into the future that you would have put 217 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: on the list to see if they did turn out 218 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: to be a danger. Well, occasionally I do google kids. 219 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: I know locally one person was charged with attempted murder 220 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: and some are dead and wait, wait, wait, and you 221 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: had already flagged him in third grade? If yeah, well, yes, 222 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: I knew they were there was something about them. You 223 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: know what you're You're absolutely right. And this particular idea 224 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: I find most fascinating. I really do, because I had 225 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: read a long time ago that teachers say at five 226 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: years old you could pick out the sociopaths, and by 227 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: third grade they have matured even more and it becomes 228 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: more obvious because a lot of that is is the 229 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: brain you're born with and sometimes aggravated by your the 230 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: environment you grew up in. And that would be that 231 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: would be an interesting like pilot program. No, I do, 232 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: because I think you find it when they're You find 233 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: the seeds of it early on, before they've get the 234 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: capability of really really harming people. To talk about, Okay, 235 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: what do you notice in a kid who's sociopathic and 236 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: he's eight years old, he's in third grade? What is 237 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: how is he different than all the others or she 238 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: or she? Yeah, your lack of empathy. Um already defiant 239 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: with authority figures. They are manipulative, it is all get out. 240 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: So they will play along to get along to get 241 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: something they want. But then they would just as easily. 242 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: You know, look at you like you know, I just 243 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: wish you would drop that in front of me. And 244 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: what do you how do you handle a kid like that? 245 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: Do you manage them differently than the non sociopaths? He uh, well, 246 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm thirty five years I'm highly skilled, 247 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: so I don't get manipulated. I do try to find 248 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: something about them that I can relate to or or 249 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: share something about myself, just to build some sort of rapport. Um. 250 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: But I tell you I had a student come to 251 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: visit me in later years, and the first thing I 252 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: did was get on the phone and call the office 253 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: and said, this student is here visiting. And then I 254 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: whispered at least checked my room in ten minutes. O. Wow. 255 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: Now we now we have senses up, so they can't 256 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: students can't just roam on campus. When was it a 257 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: pleasant meeting or it was? It was quite nice? But 258 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: I still expect there will be something in the future. 259 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Really Wow, all right, thanks very much. Yeah, interesting idea. 260 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: That grade teacher already flagging students that could be need 261 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: to be checked off. I you know what I was 262 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: thinking this morning exactly along those same lines. Have the tea. 263 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: You know, the teachers get together in the lounge, right, 264 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: and all they do in the lounges they talk about 265 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: all the students. So all the other teachers know who 266 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: the problem kids are starting in the early grades, and 267 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: they know what's coming. Right, You've got a reputation by 268 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: time you've gone to sixth grade. They've been hearing about 269 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: you for six years. And that's why some I think, 270 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: some students walk in and they say that teacher hates me. 271 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: How could she hate me? I just met her. It's like, no, 272 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: she's heard about you. She knows you're gonna be a 273 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: pain in the ass, You're gonna be trouble. And it's like, 274 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: so I was thinking, it's like, have have the secret 275 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: list and you know, try to keep a cone of 276 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: silence around it as best you can. And that's like 277 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: she said, a couple of years later, if other teachers 278 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: that got the person on the list too, it's time 279 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: to do some closer checking, right right, And and then 280 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe you know, have some psych psych 281 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: psychiatric help just to informally start talking to them, because 282 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: if they will, they'll say no though, just like the 283 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: homeless one take housing. Yeah, I know, I know, but 284 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: you disguise it as some sort of you know, some 285 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: gentle some some yeah, some counseling program we have. We went, 286 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: don't you just go down and talk to uh just 287 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: want to ask you a few questions. Yeah, we're doing 288 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: this with all the kids. Yeah, you have to, you 289 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: really have to do it on the slide, the whole 290 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: the whole thing. But but I but I bet you 291 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: every kid has been involved in the shooting would have 292 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: shown up on every teacher's list probably like like like 293 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: eight out of eight years they would have shown up. 294 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: All right, Mark, are you going on with this? You go, yes, 295 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: I like this. Look at that. We haven't talked to 296 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: people in a long time. So it's fine. You're getting 297 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: very low link. Okay, we'll take more calls on what 298 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: to do after the latest match. You thought I hit 299 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: bottom with Debrah huh And yeah, there's only so much 300 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: that'll get you. I'm a good companion around here. Johnny 301 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: can't caffide how many do a lot of people go 302 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: on four Chan in those places? Or yeah yeah, Reddit? Yes, oh, 303 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: Reddit's top ten most popular website in the world. Well, 304 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, just like the crowd, and you can call 305 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: them progressive or liberal, whatever you want, that wants to 306 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: take advantage of any of these shootings to take awaverybody's guns. 307 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: The other side really goes to town too, because they 308 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: sent out it's called the narrative, a story that the 309 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: Texas shooter was a trans illegal alien and apparently that 310 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: caught on. You see, they found two hate groups that 311 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: they figured would fire up people, and yeah, included a photo. 312 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: The photo actually turns out to be a real person 313 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: in Georgia who goes by the name of Sam, who 314 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: is a trans person. But it was like, wow, yeah, 315 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: so I just want to live without being attacked when 316 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: I leave my house. So then that person gets a 317 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: ton of abuse dumped on them. That was supposed to 318 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: be the shooter, poor Sam, and Georgia was supposed to 319 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: be solid to Aramas and and they do this to 320 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: create mayhem, and then a lot of the recipients believe 321 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: it's true, Yeah, because it taps into their hatreds of groups, 322 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: trans illegal immigrants or whatever, and they run with it. 323 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: This is that makes it better. The shooter was a 324 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: trans illegal aligen, of course, yeah, And this could be 325 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: you know, one one thousandth of one percent of the 326 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: population that Alex Jones echoed the misinformation that the Vivaldi 327 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: shooting suspect was trans of course, Alex Jones, Right, yeah, 328 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: but you know they put him out of Disney business 329 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: after the Sandy Hook thing. Uh yeah, because he got lost. Yeah, 330 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: but you know what, when he drops dead, there'll be 331 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: another guy. It's endless. It's an endless pride. Look at 332 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: all the quan On nonsense and that ended up with 333 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: millions of people following it. Doesn't qan On fading, though. 334 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: Do you think it's still strong? For it's you know what, 335 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: it's don't hear much about it anymore? No, it's it's 336 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: it's still out That mentality is out there. I think 337 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: it's morphing into other weird things they believe in. When 338 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: just Trump announced that that jfk Junior is his running mate, 339 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: I wonder if there's people are still waiting on the 340 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: the Grassy Knoll Daily plazim for John F. Kennedy Dallas. Right, 341 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 1: all right, let's take some more. Oh yeah, right, what 342 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: should we do? What do we do? What should we do? 343 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: What should we do? Uh? Let's go to uh Joe, 344 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: You're on the John and Ken Show on kfive what 345 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: do we do about the shootings on guys. Yeah, I've 346 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: been listening to a lot of these callers and I 347 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: agree and disagree with some of them. So lock schools, 348 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: you know, me and me and my wife have been 349 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: talking about this for close to you know, since it started, 350 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: and uh we we came up with a lot of 351 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: good ideas. Number One, our school that our kids go to, 352 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: they don't lock the doors. There should be like a 353 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: sally port that the secretary or somebody should have to 354 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: bust somebody in. That's a good idea. Federal charges, that's 355 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: not going to work. No charges work for these guys. 356 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: If they want guns, they're gonna get ghost guns. They 357 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: don't care what the charges are. Teachers with guns scary, scary, scary. 358 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: Teachers were databases even scarier. Okay, these teachers are not qualified, 359 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: but they think they are. Sorry, teachers, I love you, 360 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: but you're not qualified to make those decisions whether he's 361 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: a psychopath or not. Okay, let's see. So what I 362 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: think should happen is it's not going to cost a 363 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: cent to the taxpayer. It should cost everything to the 364 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: person that's applying for the gun license. It should be 365 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: a federal gun license, just like any law enforcement officer 366 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: candidate would have to go through, just like any person 367 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: trying to adopt the foster kids should go through. There 368 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: should be an interview process. There should be vigorous training. 369 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: I guarantee you half the people in the state of 370 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: California don't know laws pertaining to their rights are in 371 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: their own house and their ability to even use their 372 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: firearm against an intruder. They don't know the laws, they 373 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: don't know their responsibilities. They're going to get themselves in trouble, 374 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 1: so they need to go through some type of rigorous training. 375 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: Next is a psychic vale from their own healthcare provider. 376 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: If a psychologist is willing to provide a written yes, 377 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: he's clear psychologically, just like any other law enforcement officer. 378 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: You know, great, awesome. You know, if they're not, I 379 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: don't think they're going to put their job or the 380 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: credentials on the line. You know. On top of that, 381 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: while you're applying for your gun license, a five thousand 382 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: dollars deposit that you'll get back. However, I mean unless 383 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: you don't pass the psycho vale and you don't pass 384 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: the training, which it should be a test. I mean, 385 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: voters voters that have a you know, a big boat. 386 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: They have to go through this rigorous training drives a boat. 387 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: Appreciate it's a lot. There's a do let. The idea though, 388 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: of teachers making a list of students, you know what, 389 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: you know what I do because I'm not giving them 390 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: the powers to eject them from school or put them 391 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: away in institution, but just a little watch list. You 392 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: know something, I'm trying to think, who else can evaluate 393 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: a kid fairly unbiased? Right? Mom and dad often are 394 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: out to lunch. Nobody thinks that their kids a sociopath, right, 395 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: none of us look at our kids. You know. The 396 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: mother of this kid said, oh, well he's not violent, 397 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: right exactly? So who else is there that sees them 398 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: every day and also watches their growth over a period 399 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: more neutral? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They don't have 400 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: an emotional investment. You can't go by parents and who else? 401 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: You know, who else is there? Neighbors? They're not. You know. 402 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: The thing is they may not be qualified to do 403 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: an official psychiatric diagnosis and prescribe medication or whatever, or 404 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: provide therapy, but they're qualified in identifying characteristics. Right. They 405 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: could tell you if the kid is easy warning, right, 406 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: easy going and upbeat, or he's depressive, or he's violent, 407 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: he's short tempered. We'll make it a tiny red flag. Yeah, 408 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: and it's the empathy thing that that that is really 409 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: key because mothers, if they're not you know, disconnected, can 410 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: tell when their kid doesn't have empathy. Right, he whacks 411 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: his little brother. The brother cries, older brother doesn't feel bad. 412 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: He laughs at it. He me, Now, you wait, which 413 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: end were you on? I better not answer anymore times 414 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: I lacked empathy? You too hunt me? Yeah, yeah, that's 415 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: the side of aspergers. No, I do like I can't 416 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: really figure out what the other person's feeling. Or yeah, 417 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: I know I do lack a little empathy. I mean 418 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: a little. You're soft and though hanging out with Debra 419 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: Mark and your wife, Debra used to be surrounded by DeBras, 420 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: he was much colder. All these women in his life 421 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: have softened him. See how his face is getting rounder 422 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: and gentler. We will finish up coming up, John Cane. 423 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: All right, a final reminder tomorrow, right at this time, 424 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: we'll be playing moistline calls. You can still participate. You 425 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: can leave a message to the iHeartRadio app. With the 426 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: microphone you can call toll free one eight seven seven 427 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: moist eighty six. The Daily Mail has a story that 428 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: includes pictures and video of these frantic parents who showed 429 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: up outside the school in Uvaldi and were demanding police 430 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: storm the place and rescue their children. Says here, a 431 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: woman by the name of angel Garza was handcuffed after 432 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: trying to run into the school. It's a man when 433 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: he heard that a girl named Amory had been shot. 434 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: He later found out she was among those who died. 435 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: Another parent, Angelie Rose Gomez, is a picture of her, 436 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: was handcuffed by police, but she was eventually released. She 437 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: jumped the fence and she got her two kids out herself. 438 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, if these stories pan out, you can't be 439 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: doing this. No, I don't don't. I don't know how 440 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: they sit there first, I'm reading now they tried to 441 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: negotiate with the suitter. You can't assume how are they 442 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: negotiating with him yelling through the barricade door. I guess 443 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: a negotiation. I don't know. I don't think they were 444 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: talking to him on the phone and it's I mean, 445 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: I can said we got to wait three days, wait 446 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: a week because some of this information is still raw, 447 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: but this footage is real. You can see people being 448 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: pinned to the ground and cuffed. I can't get out 449 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: of my mind, you know, nineteen kids bleeding to death 450 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: in the classroom while these armed officers are standing outside 451 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: not the way, waiting for like a real swad unit, 452 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: because they probably thought that's the best thing to use 453 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: to get in there with an active shooter who's apparently 454 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: so quite the automatic weapon. So in the police department, 455 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: there was never a session where they said, Okay, what 456 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: do we do if our cool gets attacked by one 457 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: of these shooters. What are we gonna do if he 458 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: barricades himself in a classroom and he's mowing down little kids. 459 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: Geriffy and the waves said, you've got to neutralize the 460 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: situation as fast as possible. I possibly some of you 461 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: are going to die if you start rushing the shooter, 462 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: and that that's likely right, twenty officers in there, he 463 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: may pick off a couple of right, So were they scared? 464 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: Remember the guy in Florida at the Parkland shoot he 465 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: was just scared. He didn't want to do it well, 466 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: and he was alone too. He got all the backup 467 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: there but even when the backup got there, there were 468 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: complaints that they didn't rush in there either. Yeah, I'm not. 469 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: It's it's possible. Not every cop wants to rush a gun. 470 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: Some of them were screaming, give me your vest, you're 471 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: not using it, give me your bulletproof vest. I'm going in. 472 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 1: I mean, if it was my kids, did you imagine 473 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: a frantic you would be No, one don't. I don't think. 474 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,239 Speaker 1: I don't think I could stand there. I'm not the 475 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: bravest soul in the world, but that would be I 476 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: think nearly impossible to stand it for an hour. Well, 477 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: the guys with the guns are refusing to go in. Yeah, 478 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: it's like, here, give me your gun. We have to 479 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: see if this is true. Yeah, I know. I don't 480 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: really want to go off until we find out. This 481 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: story changed so much in two days, and I think 482 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: the changes are far from Yeah, because even though there's 483 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: video and photos, I'd have to know what the discussion 484 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: was about and where the parents threatening was or something 485 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: for another reason that they got pin into the ground. 486 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: Ye all right, well listen, thanks everyone for calling. Sorry 487 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: we couldn't get to MOREN had a good time, Yeah, 488 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: I had a good time, maybe we'll talk again. Uh, 489 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: but don't count on it, don't yeah, don't let this 490 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: go to here, use the moistline. Uh, Conway's here, Hey, now, hey, now, 491 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: all right. I was up me a news booth here 492 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, Devor a little dea caller and Aaron, 493 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm I can't quite hear the conversation 494 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: they're having. So I get a little close, a little closer, 495 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: and with the news going on, you know, around the 496 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: world talk about shoes, two of them, right, shoes, yeah, 497 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: right right? Talking about horses R I know, I understand, 498 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: But how many pair of shoes you have? An? I thought, man, 499 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: this cannot possibly be happening in this newsroom, this stereotypical 500 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: conversation going on about shoes, and yet it was right 501 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: there in front of me, right right there in front 502 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: of me. Unbelievable. How many pairs do you think Debor 503 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: Mark has I know, I now know because of that conversation. 504 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: Oh how many? I don't know. Take guess it's a 505 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: hundred hundred ken twenty five, that's exactly right. How did 506 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: you know that? I mean, if you had a conversation 507 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: with her, I can hear them too. I have microphones everywhere. Okay, 508 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: so I want what you say's great, man, twenty five 509 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: pair and she says that's not a lot. I'm like, 510 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: not a lot? About four? Only were two? That's what happens. 511 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: You know what. I have fifteen pairs of running shoes, 512 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: but I only wear two with yeah, right, like them? Yeah, right, 513 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: then the other ones just sit there in because you 514 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: gotta just sit there because dump to the batom doesn't 515 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: work for me, right, And you're not gonna throw them away. 516 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: You don't want to get to take it back. That's right, 517 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah. You know when I met my wife, 518 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: she had four hundred wait wait what fo Yeah sure, yeah, 519 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: it still has four hundred. Yeah. And I mentioned on 520 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: the air, I don't know if Kenn remember, I was 521 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna start giving them away, and she called up, freaking out. 522 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: Don't you dare do that? That's great, that's wild. Um 523 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: we have um ray Leota has passed away. That's horrible, right, yeah, 524 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: for months and fellas uh and then also the uh 525 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: the um the drummer for the group. Yes, Buddy's mind 526 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: is a bass player. Alan White passed away and a great, 527 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: great guy, right, Um, but um that that thing was 528 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: so of shocking. I thought he was young. He's like 529 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: his what sixty sixty seven? Okay, although I don't like 530 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: when people say that he was really young, right, because 531 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: you know a kind of hard life he had, right, right, 532 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: it's true. You know, the insides could have been old. 533 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. And then it's insulting to him 534 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: to say, oh, you you die so young. You didn't 535 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: take care of yourself, right, that's what that is. Yeah, yeah, 536 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: it's a moral judgment. That's right, that's exactly right. Oh 537 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: he's so young. If you why don't you be youngsides, 538 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: if he had sixty seven good years, right, sixty seven 539 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: great years was better than you know, eighty average years. 540 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: It's a movie star, that's right, right, And look eighty 541 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: you know he didn't reach George Carlin is a great line. 542 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: He goes eighty to ninety is not a good decade 543 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: for men. They really they really fall apart, right, Yes, 544 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: that's that's why would people talk about you know, if 545 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,959 Speaker 1: you did this, it's like, oh, I'm gonna make up 546 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: to eighty seven instead of eighty five, Yeah, right, over 547 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: the fun years. It's also a reason why the old folks. 548 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: Homes are not filled with guys because guys know there's 549 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: an end game to this, you know, you know, I went, 550 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: but my father in law was in one of those homes. 551 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: I went to lunch with him right in their cafeteria, 552 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: and I looked around and I counted women to men 553 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: twenty five to four. Wow. Yeah right, you're a stud 554 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: if you pull into one of those places. But yeah right, 555 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: you got the pick of the litter. Although the pick 556 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: is kind of wild sometimes, you know what I mean. Well, 557 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: there's always there's always like a horny woman or two. Yeah, 558 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: I know that's what I'm talking about, sitting next to you, 559 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: sick next year and start running her hand up and 560 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: down your leg. Yeah right, I'm told it's time for 561 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear more about elderly back to shoes. 562 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: What have you gotten tonight? Anything good? Uh? Yeah? We 563 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: have just on your list updates on everything. That's a 564 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: good one. We're gonna update everything. There's a lot to 565 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: go on. Where we gotta eatning updates. He's getting impatient, 566 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: all right. 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