WEBVTT - Predictions Are Hard!

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Forward Thinking. Hey that everyone, and welcome to Forward Thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast that looks at the future and says, at

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<v Speaker 1>once I awoke to a futuristic world that were flying

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<v Speaker 1>cars and gigantic metal bugs on Jonathan Strickland and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren volc obam Our third co host, Joe McCormick is

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<v Speaker 1>out today, so we are we are forging bravely ahead

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<v Speaker 1>into the future alone. I have a feeling he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be very upset with us when he comes back

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<v Speaker 1>and finds out what this topic is, because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he would have wanted to have been a part of this,

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<v Speaker 1>actually that that had occurred to me. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be touts unhappy. But maybe that just means that we

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<v Speaker 1>can do a sequel episode. There's there's no shortage of

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<v Speaker 1>what we're about to talk about, which is bad predictions

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<v Speaker 1>about the future. See, this show is all about talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the future and kind of extrapolating from what we

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<v Speaker 1>know out and guessing what is going to come in

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<v Speaker 1>the future. But as it turns out, that's really tough

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and history is filled with examples of people

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<v Speaker 1>making bold, unfounded predictions that they're they're beautiful in their

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<v Speaker 1>scope and ridiculousness. Yeah, now we've got we've got a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of those listed that we're going to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them actually either come close to the truth

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<v Speaker 1>or you can understand why they were wrong at the

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<v Speaker 1>time that the prediction was made, because the conditions were

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<v Speaker 1>so very different at that time and you could not

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<v Speaker 1>have necessarily anticipated the changes that would make our reality

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<v Speaker 1>as we know it possible. Sure, and some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are founded in a pure misunderstanding of things like physics.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. So first, before we even start off, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to give a huge shout out. There's an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>blog called Paleo Future, which researches, collects, and presents a

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<v Speaker 1>rich assortment of predictions, both accurate and hilariously off target.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can just go to paleo future dot com

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<v Speaker 1>and they have the blogs there. That was incredibly helpful

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<v Speaker 1>because it's all divided up by decade if you really

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<v Speaker 1>want to go decade by decade. Most of the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that I have for the early predictions came from there,

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<v Speaker 1>not all of them, but a lot of them. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the later predictions came from multiple places, because you'll discover

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<v Speaker 1>that inaccurate predictions about the future are not limited to say,

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<v Speaker 1>the late nineteenth century. We're still doing them today, Lauren

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually do them annually because on our other

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<v Speaker 1>show Tex stuff we make at the beginning of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>we make a predictions episode where we predict what will

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<v Speaker 1>happen in the following twelve months, and then at the

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<v Speaker 1>very end of the year we come back and rate ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>This this it's always a sliding scale. This past year

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<v Speaker 1>was squid basses last year. But you never know. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's look, I just I just follow the instructions

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<v Speaker 1>that get slid under my door along with some weird

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<v Speaker 1>sticky smoke stuff. I don't I don't question it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>every every year we're pretty wrong. We liked make that

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<v Speaker 1>annual tradition, so more in good company we are. We

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<v Speaker 1>are in such good companies. Starting back in eighteen seventy six. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is a prediction from Sir William Priest, who

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<v Speaker 1>was of the British Post Office, who said the Americans

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<v Speaker 1>have need of the telephone, but we do not. We

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<v Speaker 1>have plenty of messenger boys. How's that working out for

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<v Speaker 1>you England? Yeah, good job. I bet those messenger boys

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<v Speaker 1>are awful busy swimming across the Atlantic to deliver the

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<v Speaker 1>missives over here for people who want to make those

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<v Speaker 1>long distance messenger boy calls. Oh yeah, Um, one of

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<v Speaker 1>those moments where someone saw a technology and saw no

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<v Speaker 1>practical use for it whatsoever and just snootily lifted his, well,

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<v Speaker 1>his his noble English proboscis into the air. Also, being

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<v Speaker 1>that he was, you know, affiliated with the post office,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be that there was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, a little a little little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a bias. Share absolutely and next one also from eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six, and also with a little bit of a bias.

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<v Speaker 1>The quote is this telephone has too many shortcomings to

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<v Speaker 1>be seriously considered as a means of communication. Um. That

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<v Speaker 1>was from a memo within Western Union. Yeah, also a

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<v Speaker 1>little conflict there. Western Union definitely didn't really care if

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<v Speaker 1>the telephone. In fact did not want the telephone to

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<v Speaker 1>to succeed. Uh. Spoiler alert for those who had not

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<v Speaker 1>been keeping up with news, the telephones wildly popular. One

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<v Speaker 1>could say Western Unions send it's less telegram back in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six, so just saying eighty nine a

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<v Speaker 1>Cornhill University professor named Dr Thurston said that steam engines

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<v Speaker 1>would remain the most important technology for centuries, and the

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<v Speaker 1>gas engines and electricity would only be used for small industries,

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<v Speaker 1>not great ones, and that steam would even drive the

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<v Speaker 1>engines of quote flying trains end quote that could cross

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<v Speaker 1>the continent in two days. And that's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>basic misunderstandings of physics. I think, I I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that that's how steamed. Well. I think Cornell

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<v Speaker 1>University professor he might have had a good grip on

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<v Speaker 1>on physics, but just thought that you would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to constantly scale up steam power, which is not the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't constantly scale it up unless you were able

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<v Speaker 1>to generate incredible amounts of heat that would melt anything

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<v Speaker 1>closely resembling a steam engine. And I suppose to be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>most forms of electricity are are still based around steam power.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all. It's all turbines burning stuff to make steam

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<v Speaker 1>to turn turbines. Yeah. So I guess, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be really um, I guess technical, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>steam ish, But yeah, it's not steam engines the way

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<v Speaker 1>that he was he was envisioning now to be fair. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, gas engines were not terribly safe or

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<v Speaker 1>productive there. This was right around the time that the

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<v Speaker 1>carburetor was being designed, and before the carburetor had really

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<v Speaker 1>taken form. Gasoline engines were more dangerous than useful. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you spark really flammable liquid, yeah, stuff burns, as

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out, So unless you've got the right mix

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<v Speaker 1>of air and fuel, you stand the chance of burning

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<v Speaker 1>down whatever it is you're trying to power. So it's understandable,

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<v Speaker 1>but it still was a very wrong prediction. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>steam power would fade from prominence rapidly after the the

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<v Speaker 1>late nineteenth century and gasoline would take over. Um, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was that one was pretty wrong. Eighte we have

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<v Speaker 1>the Newark Daily Advocate, which had four journalists make predictions

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<v Speaker 1>for what the year n three would look like, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the highlights was saying that Chicago would be

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest city in the United States, that out of

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<v Speaker 1>all the cities, Chicago would be number one, and that

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to go out west, there would be

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<v Speaker 1>many grand cities, but none so grand as Salt Lake City,

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<v Speaker 1>which would be the most beautiful and extensive city in

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<v Speaker 1>all of the West and that Denver would end up

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<v Speaker 1>being as large as New York City. I pulled the

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<v Speaker 1>census from the nineteen nineties and by Chicago was down

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<v Speaker 1>to being the third largest city in the US, having

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<v Speaker 1>fallen behind Los Angeles, and Denver was in twenty sixth place,

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<v Speaker 1>with six point four percent of the population of New

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<v Speaker 1>York City. So at the end of the nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the idea was that there was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be this explosion of population growth in the West, not

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<v Speaker 1>the West coast, but as far as Denver, that that

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<v Speaker 1>was just an area of opportunity that was going to

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<v Speaker 1>really catch on. And it just, uh, you know, it grew.

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<v Speaker 1>It just didn't grow exponentially the way they had anticipated.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure in other cities. I mean I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>anyone really anticipated that suburbs of San Francisco We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to grow the way that they did. Well yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>before Silicon Valley, no one would have imagined that San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco would have been what it is today. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>today it's one of the most expensive areas in the

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<v Speaker 1>world to live in, if not the most to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like San Francisco Paris, like they're there are a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of cities that are that are rivaling each other for

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<v Speaker 1>a most expensive city ever. Uh. Meanwhile, right around the

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<v Speaker 1>year nineteen hundred UM exactly when is somewhat of a

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<v Speaker 1>mystery because we don't have the actual dates on the illustrations.

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<v Speaker 1>A French illustrated by the name Albert Robida created a

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<v Speaker 1>lithograph depicting what it would be like to travel to

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<v Speaker 1>the opera in the year two thousand, because clearly traveling

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<v Speaker 1>to the opera is still going to be at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of everyone's list of things to do. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta Opera Company wonderful organization, but I don't make

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<v Speaker 1>it out there nearly as frequently as I think Albert

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<v Speaker 1>would prefer. But in this lithograph you see the well

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<v Speaker 1>to do all wearing late nineteenth century French clothing because

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<v Speaker 1>clothing apparently doesn't change in a hundred years. Although to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair, if I had the option to, I would

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<v Speaker 1>wear late nineteenth century French clothing everywhere. I'd go for

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<v Speaker 1>late uh, late probably eighteenth century, because that like the

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<v Speaker 1>really tall weeks. But then after that they board flying

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<v Speaker 1>busses and personal vehicles, flying personal vehicles that looked like

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<v Speaker 1>something out of uh the Jewels Vernish tomorrow Land stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you've been to Disneyland and seeing like the

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<v Speaker 1>the rockets that look like they came straight off a

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<v Speaker 1>Jewels Verne novel, that's kind of what these things look like.

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<v Speaker 1>They were pretty infatuated with with flying vehicles right around

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<v Speaker 1>that time. Yeah, I've got another one I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about a little bit later, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to spoil it. So also around nineteen hundred, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a big one. So there's a civil engineer named

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<v Speaker 1>John Watkins, and he wrote an article for the Ladies

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<v Speaker 1>Home Journal that had a host of predictions in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a huge, huge article and I will

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<v Speaker 1>link it when we we put this podcast out because

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth the read. There there's some predictions that were

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. There are other predictions that were completely wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, he thought that within a hundred years this

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<v Speaker 1>this was supposed to be by the year two thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>we with a limit the letters C, X, and Q

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<v Speaker 1>from the alphabet can just get rid of them. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not doing anyone any good. He clearly underestimated the impact

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<v Speaker 1>that low cats would happen. The letter X Yeah, text speak.

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<v Speaker 1>As it turns out, really needs that X letter there

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<v Speaker 1>so C and Q al right, yeah, sure, who needs them?

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<v Speaker 1>But that X you can you can do you can

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<v Speaker 1>do that with a k people. Yeah. So he also

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<v Speaker 1>predicted that all animals everywhere, with the possible exception of Menagerie's,

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<v Speaker 1>would go extinct, would be eradicated in fact, like including bugs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he said that flies and mosquitoes are unnecessary. Therefore we

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<v Speaker 1>would actually take the take the end cockroaches, we'd take

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<v Speaker 1>the effort to completely extinguish all forms of them. We

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<v Speaker 1>would kill all of them. But this if you think

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<v Speaker 1>this is a crazy idea that mankind would just get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of all animals, it was incredibly prevalent at this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I didn't include every instance of it because it

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<v Speaker 1>just one it got depressing, and two and two it

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<v Speaker 1>was just you know, you really only have to mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>at once. But he was not the only person to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, we're not even gonna have animals, because

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<v Speaker 1>what use are animals? They don't have any useful purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>Therefore we could just we don't even need to They're

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<v Speaker 1>they're not even a consideration. I'm just ever here cringing,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm which is playing really well. On radio, I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but ye, yeah, it's it was pretty pretty rough. He

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<v Speaker 1>also said all cities would be free of noise because

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<v Speaker 1>vehicles would move on cushioned wheels, street cars would not

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<v Speaker 1>exist in major cities, and trains would either be high

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<v Speaker 1>above ground or below it as a subway. That is

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful dream. Yeah. Yeah, anyone who's listened very carefully

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<v Speaker 1>to our podcasts knows that that dream has not become

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<v Speaker 1>a reality. Our our podcast room is on the eleventh

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<v Speaker 1>floor of a building and faces out towards a busy street. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you could say the busy street in Atlanta, because it

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<v Speaker 1>is Peachtree and occasionally you might hear some some noises

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<v Speaker 1>from there. So not so not so free of noise

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<v Speaker 1>after But some of the predictions that he did get right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So he predicted that we would have climate controls for homes,

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<v Speaker 1>which was not something that was common back in the

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<v Speaker 1>but it's pretty common these days. Yeah. He he thought

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<v Speaker 1>of it as spigots that would have either hot air

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<v Speaker 1>or cold air delivered to your home, So you would

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<v Speaker 1>actually turn the spigot on and would fill your home

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<v Speaker 1>either with cool air or hot air. Now, obviously that's

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<v Speaker 1>not accurate to how climate control like h VAC units

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<v Speaker 1>work today. But that but the concept is there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he saw a technology that would allow us to be

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<v Speaker 1>more comfortable inside, and in fact, that has happened. He

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<v Speaker 1>also predicted that we'd be able to buy ready cooked

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<v Speaker 1>meals at establishments without a problem to be reheated at home,

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<v Speaker 1>so you could go to He he thought of it

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<v Speaker 1>as like a bakery where you would go and pick

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<v Speaker 1>up something that had already been cooked and you would

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<v Speaker 1>just you would take it home and that would save

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<v Speaker 1>you the trouble of having to cook a meal yourself. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>if this didn't exist, I would only eat about one

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<v Speaker 1>out of seven days. If it didn't exist, college students

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<v Speaker 1>would be extinct, is really what it comes down to.

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<v Speaker 1>There would not be such a creature as the college

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<v Speaker 1>student were it not for pre cooked meals. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>say that as a former college student. I remember. So.

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<v Speaker 1>He also predicted that photographs will be telegraphed, so that

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<v Speaker 1>if something happens in China, you'd see the photos of

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<v Speaker 1>it an hour later in the United States. He says

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<v Speaker 1>this by two thousand, so he does. He foresees a

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<v Speaker 1>time where we are able to transmit information as in

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<v Speaker 1>the information and a photograph over radio lines essentially, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that was a very good prediction, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what we can do now, but because telegraphs

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly. But it's pretty cool. Yeah, So anyway, I'll,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I'll include a list of all his predictions,

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<v Speaker 1>because trust me, there are a ton more, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to include lots of them, but I knew that

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<v Speaker 1>if I did that, it would just be a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>about his predictions, which I guess we could have done,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would have been better if we had been

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<v Speaker 1>able to do that back in two thousand, the year

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<v Speaker 1>when those predictions would have either been true or false

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time, because it was one years. Hence, well,

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<v Speaker 1>in the next fifty years, when we actually create that

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<v Speaker 1>way back machine, well then we can go back and

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<v Speaker 1>our next episode will actually be recorded years before how

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff Works was really a thing in our lives. So

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be exciting. Nineteen o one, we have a French

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<v Speaker 1>illustrator apparently named Monier based upon the Ormonier, I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>based upon the signature on the art. However, the only illustrator,

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<v Speaker 1>French illustrator I know whose name is Monier is Henree

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<v Speaker 1>Monier who passed away about three decades before nineteen o one,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's clearly not him. But anyway, there's some sketches

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<v Speaker 1>of people using personal flying devices, you know, like jet packs,

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<v Speaker 1>except they're not jet packs. They were wings and propellers.

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<v Speaker 1>Like imagine a gentleman in a suit coat, a long

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<v Speaker 1>suit coat, obvious he's got he's got wings on his back,

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<v Speaker 1>and a propeller is sticking out of the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the suit coat allowing him to fly through the air,

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<v Speaker 1>so it looks like he's got a propeller coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of his posterior. Same thing with ladies, except out of

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of their dresses. Their dresses also outfitted with

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<v Speaker 1>very stylish Edison style lightbulbs to light the way, because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to fly in the dark. Um and

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, they because they're French illustrations. One of them

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<v Speaker 1>shows a lady flying off and a gentleman flying right

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<v Speaker 1>behind her, his hand over his heart. Clearly he's infatuated

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<v Speaker 1>with her, and it essentially the little message underneath says

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<v Speaker 1>how a man will follow a lady in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a New Zealand Star article that was called

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<v Speaker 1>the morning Tub a hundred years hence, which I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was a truly charming title for an article. It predicted

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<v Speaker 1>that by two thousand six, we would all be so

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<v Speaker 1>eager to spend our leisure moments pursuing various activities that

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<v Speaker 1>we would invent a tub that would get us clean

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<v Speaker 1>much faster than the traditional bathtub. So it would use

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<v Speaker 1>oxygenated water propelled against us to replace scrubbing. Um. You

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have to do any kind of physical scrubb because

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<v Speaker 1>the water does it for you. There'd be a drying cabinet.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd step into the drying cabinet and it would mechanically

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<v Speaker 1>use little soft brushes to dry the skin, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it would invigorate your skin, possibly using electricity, so that

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<v Speaker 1>you were full of them and vigor in the morning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I figured nothing. Nothing really gets the blood going like

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<v Speaker 1>electroshock therapy. Also, another thing I didn't really include with

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<v Speaker 1>these predictions, but is very true of this particular time,

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<v Speaker 1>the early early twentieth century, was that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people held magical beliefs about electricity. They thought electricity could

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<v Speaker 1>cure everything from mental disease to obesity. Uh. They thought that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they saw that electricity could have power over

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<v Speaker 1>where things like it can make a dead muscle contract.

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<v Speaker 1>They also knew that there were some electrical impulses going

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<v Speaker 1>on with the brain, and that if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>encounter electrical impulses that could totally short circuit you. So

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<v Speaker 1>some of their beliefs were understandable because it was based

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<v Speaker 1>upon a lack of information. But yeah, this is just

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<v Speaker 1>one example of an idea of using electricity for quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote magical purposes. So after you get all that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>showering done or bathing done and drying and electricity through

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<v Speaker 1>your skin, then you could take an elevator down to breakfast, right,

0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.600
<v Speaker 1>because no one in the future has time for stairs. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of moving sidewalks in these predictions too,

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<v Speaker 1>but I skipped those because come on anyway, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, take your news. You either read a newspaper

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<v Speaker 1>or perhaps even use a device that talks to you

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<v Speaker 1>and speaks the day's news into your ear. That's that's wild. Actually,

0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.440
<v Speaker 1>at the time, that was pretty wild. I was relatively wild. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The for news radio broadcast is believed to not have

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<v Speaker 1>happened until in Detroit. Public broadcasting itself began as early

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<v Speaker 1>as just four years after this prediction in nineteen ten,

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<v Speaker 1>when tenor Enrico Caruso sang from the Metropolitan Opera House

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<v Speaker 1>in New York to various receivers throughout the city, and

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, a lot of other interesting uh predictions said

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<v Speaker 1>that radio would allow in an unparalleled era of culture

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<v Speaker 1>because you would be able to listen to the world's

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<v Speaker 1>most famous artists performing music, singing opera, this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff by going to a place that has a radio

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<v Speaker 1>and being able to hear it, and it would be

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<v Speaker 1>just as good as if you were there. The idea

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<v Speaker 1>being that the technology itself would improve to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where you would listen to it from a radio and

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<v Speaker 1>it would be as if you were standing in the

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<v Speaker 1>venue itself. That was and again another way that people

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<v Speaker 1>were kind of projecting forward based upon the technology of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, How could this improve? What would it be

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<v Speaker 1>like in the future, And a lot of them were saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>in a hundred years, you'll be able to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>anybody anywhere doing whatever it is you want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>through the radio, because again that their minds were limited

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<v Speaker 1>by what they already Sure, sure, no one back then

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<v Speaker 1>was really imagining YouTube right. No, not even even the

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube founder, as we'll find out, had his doubts much

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<v Speaker 1>much later than New York Tribune included a sobering warning

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<v Speaker 1>about all those flying machines that are going to be everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>pointing out that burglars would soon find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>fly aircraft silently and thus land on rooftops to rob

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<v Speaker 1>people blind. Nineteen eleven. Okay, so, Thomas Edison was asked

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<v Speaker 1>to write a little bit about what he thought the

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<v Speaker 1>future would be like, what the world would be like

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred years from nineteen eleven. Yeah, and uh yeah

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<v Speaker 1>he he had a lot of interesting predictions, some of

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<v Speaker 1>which were a little off the mark. For example, he

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<v Speaker 1>said that bars of gold would become as cheap and

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<v Speaker 1>plentiful as bars of iron or steel by because he

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<v Speaker 1>thought we were on the brink of discovering the secret

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<v Speaker 1>of transmutation like alchemy. Yeah, we're talking, you know, sixteenth

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<v Speaker 1>century ideas of being able to transform one material into

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<v Speaker 1>another through some form physical or chemical process. How is Edison?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm disappointed in you. He had to take a break

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<v Speaker 1>between electrocuting elephants to death to come up with some

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<v Speaker 1>other ideas so you know, we all know that was

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<v Speaker 1>an Edison who literally did that. No, he just condoned it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Also that elephant was a killer, but still I think

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<v Speaker 1>deserved a full trial and not just a summary execution.

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<v Speaker 1>He also predicted that the material of home furnishings and

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<v Speaker 1>construction would be primarily steel. We would move away from

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<v Speaker 1>wood home furnishing steel. Yeah, like your table would be

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<v Speaker 1>made out of steel, your chairs would be made out

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<v Speaker 1>of steel. Cradle, baby cradle totally made out of steel.

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<v Speaker 1>And that steel itself would become lighter and stronger over time,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you could have a sideboard, was his example.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have a sideboard made up of steel that

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<v Speaker 1>would be lighter and easier to move and more rugged

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<v Speaker 1>than a wooden sideboard. So when you have to move

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<v Speaker 1>the sideboard, as I'm sure we're all familiar with, I

0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know why I bother putting a sideboard in.

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<v Speaker 1>All I do is move it, um. But you would

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do so much more easily with a

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<v Speaker 1>steel one than woulden one. So he really thought we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to move away from that. He also thought

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<v Speaker 1>that books would move away from paper pages. He thought

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<v Speaker 1>that we would start making books using leaves of nickel,

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<v Speaker 1>and those leaves and nickel would be thinner, more flexible,

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<v Speaker 1>and more durable than paper. So you could have a

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<v Speaker 1>book that's more durable than a traditional one. A two

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<v Speaker 1>inch thick book with these leaves of nickel pages would

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<v Speaker 1>have enough pages in it to hold a hundred volumes

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<v Speaker 1>in one two inch book. So because very thin metal

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<v Speaker 1>in in congregate is obviously lighter than would pulp, well

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<v Speaker 1>might not be lighter, but it would be more compact,

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<v Speaker 1>is his argument. Um, yeah, it was. It was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an interesting idea, the idea of being able to

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<v Speaker 1>carry a library around with you, which in fact has happened,

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<v Speaker 1>although it's happened digitally, not physically. So his all of

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<v Speaker 1>these top few revealed to me a kind of basic

0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 1>misunderstanding of materials. Yeah, yeah, well, you know again, Basing,

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<v Speaker 1>he was making predictions based upon the world around him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was probably grouchy that day. Tesla man have

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<v Speaker 1>said something that really ticked him off, you know, But

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<v Speaker 1>but he did get he did get some things right.

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<v Speaker 1>He did. He said that steam engines would fade into obscurity.

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<v Speaker 1>He disagreed with our our Cornell professor from earlier He

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<v Speaker 1>said that they would fade into obscurity and that we

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<v Speaker 1>rely nearly exclusively on electricity, which granted Thomas Edison, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got he's got a stake in that whole electricity thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't mean to say he's going in

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<v Speaker 1>it without bias, but he was right. He also predicted

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<v Speaker 1>that we'd use large aircraft to fly at incredible speeds. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>his version of incredible speed was two hundred miles per

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<v Speaker 1>which is slow for a coramcial aircraft. However, he was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of, you know, think about it, like, at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of a large flying aircraft that could move

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<v Speaker 1>at these speeds was not a very common idea. The

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<v Speaker 1>idea of a heavier than air uh aircraft was was

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<v Speaker 1>still very much in this kind of weird experimental phase. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It had been less than a decade before that that

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<v Speaker 1>the Wright brothers had taken their first flight. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's it's pretty impressive for him to go on this. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a that was a pretty bold prediction that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being more or less true. Actually ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being a little modest because we can fly it much

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<v Speaker 1>faster than two under three. We get a really official

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 1>prediction from the Surgeon General Hugh S. Cummings, who predicted

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<v Speaker 1>that in the future all food would be in pill form.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always heard this action I did not realize. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not certain that Cummings was the first person to

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<v Speaker 1>suggest this, but I didn't realize how far back this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of in the future all food will be in

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<v Speaker 1>pill I think it has a nineteen fifties so. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he had, and he had talked about how people had

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 1>already started creating dehydrated food that reduced food down to

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<v Speaker 1>seventy of its original volume, and so that it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of time before we get this to a

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<v Speaker 1>point where you know, we no longer bothered by the

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<v Speaker 1>drudgery of eating a meal. Yeah, people had some as

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Joe and I went into in our three D Printed

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Food episode, we people had some really interesting ideas about

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<v Speaker 1>the bothersomeness of acquiring nutrition, which, which to be fair,

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>is totally bothersome. I mean, that's having to eat three

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.439
<v Speaker 1>times a day things. It doesn't make me think that

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<v Speaker 1>Cummings needed to go to a couple of the restaurants

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<v Speaker 1>I like, because once you once you experience like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, yeah burger, and you get one of those

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<v Speaker 1>yeah burgers, you would not want to replace that with

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<v Speaker 1>a pill. You would not know. All right, here's here's

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>where one of the guys have a very controversial person

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 1>in film history, uh, very influential and also made one

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>of the films that was possibly the most hateful movie

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen. D W. Griffith, pioneer filmmaker. He directed

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>The Birth of a Nation, which that's the that's the movie.

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Incredibly influential. It established a lot of editing techniques and

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 1>filmmaking techniques that people still use today. Also dealt with

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the the birth of the Ku Klux Klan, so not

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>exactly a charming story. Anyway. He predicted that there wouldn't

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 1>be any way to transmit moving pictures to Holmes, and

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 1>that the cinema would become more important, eventually replacing libraries.

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>You could go to a library and request a film,

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:53.119
<v Speaker 1>the idea being that kind of like you go to

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.440
<v Speaker 1>or you could go to a cinema and request a film,

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 1>like you could go to a library and request a book.

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:01.439
<v Speaker 1>So he thought that this this, uh, this concept of

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>something like television was completely baseless. Of course, filmmaker so

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 1>again you have that that bias you come from the

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>worldview from a certain perspective. We have Eddie Rickenbacker, who

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>is a pilot, who said within the next two decades

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>autos will be made with folding wings. He foresaw a

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:27.439
<v Speaker 1>time where the motorists would become a pilot. Okay, to

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>be fair, people had already been designing flying cars and

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:36.199
<v Speaker 1>or roadable airplanes since nineteen seventeen um, which for the

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 1>record is just fourteen years after the Right Brothers took

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>that first flight of theirs Um. But of course we

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>are still waiting to see a widespread version. And as

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 1>we have talked about on the show before and and

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 1>those early early car flying car thingies all either had

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 1>fixed wings, which meant that they were you know, roadable planes,

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 1>like they couldn't really drive on the road either because

0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>they were too wide, or they had detachable wings. But

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>not these weird kind of folding wings that could unfold

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>from a car and turn your car into a plane.

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>We're still waiting on those. I mean, we all know that,

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 1>we've done episodes about it. So but yeah, he he

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>said that by nineteen four they would be commonplace. So

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 1>that didn't happen personally, I blame World War two. Hugo

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Gernsback wrote some predictions about what the world would be

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>like within fifty years, so that would make it nineteen

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 1>seventy five. So here are his predictions for nineteen seventy five.

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>First of all, he correctly predicted that broadcast television would

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>become a thing that essentially he was saying moving pictures

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>by radio, which is more or less broadcast television. But

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>he was really really excited by radio, like kind of

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the way some of those other people were excited about electricity.

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>He thought that we would be able to teleport physical

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>objects using radio waves. So yeah, so you could take

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>you can mind coal and then you could teleport the

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>coal directly to the power plant without having to transport

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>it from one place to another, using this kind of

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 1>miraculous technology. And his point was saying that if you

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>look back, like the predictions I'm going to give are

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 1>going to sound crazy to you. But if you went

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>back fifty years and tried to tell someone about X rays,

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>they would think you were crazy. That was his his justification.

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 1>He also said that we would all wear electric skates

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>to get around instead of walking, and that these electric

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>skates would less travel eight or ten miles per hour

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and would be powered by radio waves. Would actually have

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 1>a wire going up from the skates all the way

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>up our bodies to us say, a hat, which would

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>an antenna hat that would gather energy through radio waves.

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I want I want this feature. I want it right now.

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like being Dazzler, except with with a really cool hat.

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure we can get you a hat with

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>an antenna sticking out of it, and maybe some of

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>those sneakers that have the skate the little skates worked

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>into them, and you could at least pretend that's I'd

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>take it. All right, This as close as I think

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I can get you. We have our first possibly apocryphal prediction,

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>This one from Thomas Watson, who was chairman of IBM,

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>who who allegedly said, I think there is a world

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>market for maybe five computers. This this one is is

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>in really quite heavy dispute. No one can find the

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>source of it outside of some Usenet posts, and Watson

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 1>was not active one no and and newspaper columns dating

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>from the nineteen eighties or later. Um. Some think it

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>might be a corruption or misattribution of a quote from someone,

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and and sources on who that someone is very pretty

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>widely from the nineteen fifties or so about the UK

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>only needing three to five computers ever, either way at

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>any rate shortsighted prediction. Well, you know, at the time,

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>computers were these vacuum tube house sized kind of things. Yeah,

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that could that could do very limited work, like very specific,

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:03.719
<v Speaker 1>very limited work. And so I can see I can

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>see that the world market only needing five of those. Well, yeah,

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a need for a house sized computer

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>that I have to program physically through punch cards or

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>plugs and switches. That would be ridiculous. You know, need

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>is a strong word. I'm not saying I wouldn't take one.

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if they made Hunt the Wumpus for such

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 1>a computer, I guess i'd try it anyway. In yes,

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>this one it comes from Darrel's Zenoch, who is of

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>twentieth century Fox and says television won't be able to

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 1>hold onto any market it captures after the first six months.

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>People will soon get tired of staring at Plywood box

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>every night. Yeah. So this is a guy who had

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>already produced over a hundred films by the stage. So

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>he's one of those people who had some steaks. D W. Griffith.

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>It's funny though there are other filmmakers. Um uh, I

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>think Cecil will be the mill. Actually predicted that cameras

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and film would become cheap enough for people to be

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>able to produce movies out of their own homes, and

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>that lenses and film production techniques would improve to the

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>point where you wouldn't need super expensive lighting to in

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 1>order to get a good picture. His point was saying

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>that one of the limiting factors was that only movie

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>studios at the time could produce pictures because you had

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>to have such incredible amounts of lighting in order to

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>even capture the images on film. He predicted, now within

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>a hundred years, we're going to have these movies done

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>in the home and they're gonna look better than what

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>we can do in the studio right now, which was

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing. I think that that is the difference in thought.

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>And forgive me Hollywood types who are listening to this

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>between a a director, you know, a kind of creative force,

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and a producer who is a money making force. Any

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>producers out there who would like to make some money

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>on my ideas, just give me a call. Lauren clearly

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't understand your importance, but I do. I'm certainly not

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>saying that producers cannot also be a creative force. But

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>but this guy, this guy does not sound like and

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>again he also had a steak like you said, he

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>had a steak in. This was one of those things

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>that if you were to say, give credence to what

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>could potentially be a really disruptive technology to your business,

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>then that's considered a bad idea. You know, you don't

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>want to tell everyone that the other guy has got

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>a legitimate fight on their hands, that that's not you

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>want to dismiss it and try and hold SOE Mechanics

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Illustrated published an article that claimed that helicopters would replace

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>cars and we would fly everywhere, because giving average drivers

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>a flying license is a really good plan. Not to

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>mention a flying license for a helicopter one of the

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>most difficult types of aircraft to fly. UH. This was

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>based off a single person aircraft design that had reached

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>some popularity a few years earlier. UH. It was somewhat

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 1>of a dangerous design because the landing gear for this

0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 1>personal helicopter was the pilot's legs. Oh I don't want that. Yeah,

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>where you have to land and you have and it's

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 1>like a flint stone car. That's no, that's a terrible plan.

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Funny because the video I saw this in specifically made

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>that comparison. So yes, it is like a flintstones car. Um.

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Nineteen fifty five, we have Alex Loot of the Loot

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Vacuum Company who said nuclear powered vacuum cleaners will probably

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>be a reality within ten years. Hey, you remember in

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty five when all those nuclear powered vacuum cleaners

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>hit the market and then the market exploded. Literally Yeah, no, this, Um,

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:35.479
<v Speaker 1>this was right in the middle nine. That was the

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>atomic age. Yeah, that's when you have everyone's like automic

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>power will solve everything. This was before we really had

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>a full appreciation of the dangers of radiation, of the

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.479
<v Speaker 1>other dangers of of of of nuclear power. I mean,

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 1>obviously we knew some of it because the Manhattan Project

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>had been over for a decade. We had already seen

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the proof of the atomic bomb. Yeah, but we were

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>still like painting glow in the dark things with radium

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>to make them glow in the dark. So so yeah,

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>so we had not quite learned our lesson yet Yeah,

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting. Ninety eight, NASA predicts that we would

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:10.280
<v Speaker 1>have a permanent moon base by two thousand seven. Where's

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>my moon base, NASA, We're holding you personally accountable. I

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>understand that you might have had a couple of budget

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>cuts over the past couple of decades, but really, no excuse, no,

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 1>no note at all. Uh. Nineteen fifty nine, IBM sent

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>a message to Xerox saying the world potential market for

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>copying machines is five thousand at most right up there

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 1>to that three to five computers that the world needs.

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Right again, it was one of those things where the

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>business case was something that was not obvious to one

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>party turned out to be incredibly important. Sure well, also

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>at the time, that's another scalability issue of people not realizing.

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming those people at IBM didn't realize that copying

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>machines would come down from the near two car sized

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing that they were at the time to

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the merely half a car size drink cart sized. That's

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:09.280
<v Speaker 1>also true. Um. Yeah, nineteen sixty one, we have T. A. M. Craven,

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the FCC commissioner at the time, who said there's practically

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>no chance communications space satellites will be used to provide

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>better telephone, telegraph, television, or radio service inside the United States. Wow,

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that's really wrong. That's quite wrong. I mean they

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>depend upon satellites now, Like without the satellites, we would

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 1>not have these these services the way that we do

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>right now. It's yeah, no, that's needless to say. Um

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>did not stay FCC commissioner for forever. No. No. In

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty six. Another another gem of one. Uh.

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>This quote is from Time magazine. Remote shopping, while entirely feasible,

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>will flop. And again, at the time the prediction was made,

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>you can understand why they would say that. I mean,

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 1>think about it. In nineteen sixties six, remote shopping essentially

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>meant that you've got us years Roebuck catalogue and you

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:04.919
<v Speaker 1>placed a telephone call. Yeah, and then you would wait

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>for something to get delivered to you. You know, all

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>this kind of stuff. You might have C O D

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:13.280
<v Speaker 1>cash on delivery. That world. At the time, I assume

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>they were still using like monkeys or impovertis children, mostly

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>flying monkeys. Yeah, so, but they refused to fly when

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 1>non delivery. They said, that's just for fun Time. So yeah,

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:28.879
<v Speaker 1>the No Time magazine. The article goes on to say that, uh,

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to apologize to Lauren before I even go

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 1>into this. I did not write the article, but that

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>women really want to go to stores and try lots

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>of stuff on and feel it with their hands, and

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 1>they don't trust anything that they can't actually see or

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.879
<v Speaker 1>touch or hold, and therefore they would absolutely refuse out

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>of hand any kind of remote purchasing option for anything. Well, okay,

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 1>that's that's almost half true, because it is pretty true

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that I want to try clothes on before I buy them,

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't necessarily I mean, I mean, I have

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>tape measures. And also that you would want to try

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 1>things like hold a pot before you buy it, or

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 1>rolling pin or all the other womanly things. Machine would

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>be a big one. Now, I'm I mean, clearly, female

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:18.399
<v Speaker 1>brains are so tactile as opposed to male brains. There's

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 1>so many hard, hardwired differences between the genders. Being really sarcastic,

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:28.879
<v Speaker 1>your domesticity leanings are leave a lot to be desired learn.

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>We gotta work on this. But yeah, no, it was.

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>It was one of those where said that this this

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:35.760
<v Speaker 1>idea just wasn't going to take off now. Granted again,

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty six different world from today, but of course

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>today online shopping, this remote shopping idea is enormous, so

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>much so that we're talking about flying drones delivering packages

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>and impossible near future and all kinds of brick and

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.439
<v Speaker 1>mortar stores are being closed down right now they are

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>like today. So nineteen sixty six we've got a reader's

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:59.959
<v Speaker 1>Digest story where the writers predicted that we'd have jet

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:04.760
<v Speaker 1>packs by nine and cities would be climate controlled domes.

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't generally take a lot of stock and readers digest, um.

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess that this is probably one of those things

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 1>where no one there had really thought about the possibility

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>of a jet pack and how mostly you're just setting

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>yourself on fire constantly. Yeah, I like, uh, I always

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 1>like comedy routines where they show what a jet pack

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>would really be like, and it almost someone's just careening

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.320
<v Speaker 1>out of control and smashing into things at high speed

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know, there's no sense of direction. Yeah, their

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>pants are on fire. Yeah, that's pretty accurate. Also, the

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 1>idea of cities in in climate controlled domes, I mean

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 1>that would be well, we did have biodome. Yeah, a

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>little a little more modest than a city sized dome,

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 1>but yes, I'll allow it. Nineteen sixty six, we also

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>had Arthur C. Clark making some predictions, including that by

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.399
<v Speaker 1>the year two thousand one, we'd have flying homes. We'd

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>free ourselves from the grid, and our homes would be

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 1>able to produce everything necess terry like water and electricity

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 1>using some sort of compact power source which he had

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>not quite defined. But that wasn't he was saying, that

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the point. By then we will have that, and

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>then we'll have these flying homes. Uh. No, we don't

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:18.840
<v Speaker 1>have flying homes. Unless your name happens to be Dorothy

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and there was a big storm passing through Kansas. You

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>don't have a flying home. We also don't have that

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of power source. No. No, we have Ken Olson

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 1>of Digital Equipment Corps saying there is no reason anyone

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>would want a computer in their home. Now, this is seven,

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>This is after hobbyists have already started building things like

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the Altaire that was the first first hobbyist computer. The

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 1>first kits were already out, I mean people one had

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 1>been out and now the Apple two was coming out

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>in seventy seven, so it's it. But yeah, it was

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 1>one of those things where, I mean they were really

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 1>expensive when they first came out. Computers were incredibly expensive

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and had really limited functionality. But still it was one

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:00.839
<v Speaker 1>of those things that caught on quick lee and never

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 1>let go. So that was a very wrong prediction. One.

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Here's another possibly apocryphal quote, because the person who supposedly

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.760
<v Speaker 1>made it denies that he ever made it. That person

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 1>is Bill Gates. This is one of those ones that

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.440
<v Speaker 1>you see quoted all over the place, which was boils

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>down to sixty k ought to be enough for anybody

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>that's six of memory. Memory, yeah, which, uh, you know

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>our phones dwarf now, so our thumb drives dwarf that, yeah,

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:35.240
<v Speaker 1>yea for storage space certainly. Yeah, yeah, you're talking about

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 1>a world of difference. But again, possibly apocryphal. Bill Gates

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 1>that he never said it, So it's very possible that

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 1>that's a misquote or was misattributed to Bill Gates. So

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.839
<v Speaker 1>one that we're pretty sure of the accuracy of one.

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Cellular phones will absolutely not replace local wire systems. That

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>was Marty Cooper, who was the father of the cell phone.

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>If you ever heard the story worry. He worked for

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:04.399
<v Speaker 1>one company and then he made the very first cell

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>phone call to the to the head of his opponent company.

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>We're talking too big telecommunications companies and saying, guess where

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm calling from. I'm on the street outside your office. Yeah,

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 1>but he did not foresee cell phones becoming a replacement

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 1>for the local wires service. And at the time, you

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>can understand why. I mean, the cell phones were enormous.

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 1>They had very limited range, they had limited power. Oh yeah,

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>it was at least suitcase sized, I mean on the

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:36.880
<v Speaker 1>on the low end. Yeah, and you're talking about an

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:39.759
<v Speaker 1>infrastructure that didn't exist yet. You know, you didn't really

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>have an infrastructure to tap into for the longest time

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 1>with cell phone service. If you can also listen to

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:49.280
<v Speaker 1>tech stuff, we have an UH podcast about mobile telephones

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 1>and things like the radio service where radio telephones, which

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 1>predates cell telephones, you would only be able to operate

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.359
<v Speaker 1>a few in a city at any given time because

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 1>there just wasn't enough capacity to allow more than maybe

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 1>four or five conversations going. Won't handle it, so I

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 1>can kind of understand it. But obviously that one turned

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>out to be wrong. So scientists from the science and

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Technology Agency in Tokyo predicted that we'd have orbiting factories

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 1>and laboratories surrounding Earth by so well, I mean we

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:25.360
<v Speaker 1>got the s S. Yeah, that's one, and some satellites

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and some telescopes, and in a way they do surround

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:32.919
<v Speaker 1>the Earth because they orbit it. That's a very loose

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>definition of surround. I think they were thinking of having

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 1>large manufacturing facilities out there in space where you're not

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 1>bound by the problems of gravity, which we are thinking

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 1>about doing that. That that holds some promise for the future,

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 1>as we have talked about, but just none of those

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:54.840
<v Speaker 1>things that's not in the near future, let alone. Todd

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Mill predicted that we would soon quote unquote be living

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>in underwater cities powered by fusion and reactors with lasers.

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I only wish we haven't figured out how to make

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:10.839
<v Speaker 1>the fusion work efficiently yet, although recent news have been

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:13.560
<v Speaker 1>very promising about the idea of actually producing more energy

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 1>that it took to initiate the fusion reaction that was

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:20.719
<v Speaker 1>the first. But we're still waiting on making that practical

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 1>so that we can actually use it as a true

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>nuclear power source. As for underwater cities, I mean there

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 1>are a ton of problems to work out. If you

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>listen to our underwater Hotels episode, you know that we

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>aren't close to that yet. Yeah. There there are basically

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 1>any number of land based places on Earth that are

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 1>much easier and cheaper to build cities. Yeah, I mean,

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:43.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe the view isn't as pretty if you if you

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:48.319
<v Speaker 1>haven't like fishies. Robert Metcalf, who was the founder of

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the company three Colm and also coinvented ethernet right, says,

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I predict the Internet will soon go spectacularly supernova and

0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:01.799
<v Speaker 1>did catastrophically collapse. Yeah, so he was looking at the

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Internet itself as being a bubble. Uh. If you don't,

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 1>If you weren't around in the early nineties, early to

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 1>mid nineties, you probably don't remember the incredible amount of

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:14.280
<v Speaker 1>hype and excitement around the Internet. It was this new tool.

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 1>People weren't sure exactly how to use it. They had

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 1>no idea what the the limitations or the possible applications

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>could be. That it was really a sky's the limit

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:28.799
<v Speaker 1>wild West frontier. Everyone try everything at once. Let's make

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 1>sure you have a website that says under construction and

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>a looping midi that you can't turn Off included on there,

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, everything looks like geo cities websites. You had

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:41.279
<v Speaker 1>people on the news having discussions about how does this

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 1>email thing work? What does this? What is it? What's

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 1>this weird symbol? It looks like an a in a circle?

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Why is that? They're like? These were all things that

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>were happening at this time, and so what Metcalf was

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:56.840
<v Speaker 1>saying was that all this excitement was not something that

0:44:56.880 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 1>could be sustainable. Yeah, you would eventually he have a collapse.

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>It would be similar to what we saw with the

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>idea of virtual reality. This idea where we get a

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:09.320
<v Speaker 1>concept in our heads what virtual reality is going to

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 1>be like, and when it pans out that it's not

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 1>up to the same level as what our expectation was,

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>then it falls apart. And it wasn't that the Internet

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 1>was a bad tool. It was just that once we

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:23.080
<v Speaker 1>all woke up from this hype dream, we would be

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 1>disappointed and we would just walk away, never to invest

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>again in the Internet now. He also famously said that

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 1>he would eat his words if he were proven wrong.

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen Metcalf delivered a speech to the WWW

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Conference and he brought out a printed copy of this

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:47.760
<v Speaker 1>article and a blender, and he put the article article

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 1>in the blender with some liquid. He said it on puree,

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>poured it in a glass and drank it him. He's

0:45:55.280 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 1>a man of his word. We have a quote from

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Clifford Stall, who was who's an astronomer, who said, well,

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:07.920
<v Speaker 1>soon buy books and newspapers straight over the internet. Sure,

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 1>dismissing it. He wrote an entire book called Silicon Snake

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Oil where he dismissed the whole idea of the World

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Wide Web as a passing fad and that we would

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>never ever get to a point where we would be

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 1>buying stuff straight off the internet. That was just ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah, well,

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean just like Time magazine said back in the

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties, clearly, and this entire remote shopping thing is

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that it's untenable. Uh he was wrong. So two thousand

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 1>three spoiler at three Steve Jobs. One of the great

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 1>quotes from Steve Jobs, and I could have included a

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:45.319
<v Speaker 1>ton of these. Two One was the subscription model of

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:48.279
<v Speaker 1>buying music is bankrupt. Now in two thousand three, you're

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about an earraw when iTunes is starting to really

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>catch on, and the idea of purchasing music on a

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:57.720
<v Speaker 1>per song basis was very popular, and so Steve Jobs

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 1>was saying things like Rhapsody, where you would subscribe ride

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:02.919
<v Speaker 1>to a service and get music that way. People don't

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 1>want that, They're not going to pay for it. But

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 1>now we have companies like Pandora, Spotify, r d O

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:13.359
<v Speaker 1>things that have subscription based services where you can either

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 1>get something for free but you get advertising so it's

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 1>ad supported, or you can opt in to purchase a

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:23.760
<v Speaker 1>an account and then get add free broadcast of whatever

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:27.280
<v Speaker 1>it is that you want. It proves that, in fact,

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:30.799
<v Speaker 1>that subscription model is not dead, it's not bankrupt. It

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 1>still works. You just have to be creative in the

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 1>way that you implement it. Two thousand four, we have

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Bill Gates with another quote, this one not apocryphal, where

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 1>he said, two years from now, spam will be solved.

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Bill. Yeah, man, do you remember that last time

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you got a spam message way back in two thousand

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and six? Gosh, sure is nice that I don't have

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 1>a hitt and box full of them every single morning

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 1>when I log on first thing. I mean, I even

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:01.399
<v Speaker 1>have I even have notifications from my spam filter letting

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 1>me know how many spam emails it caught on top

0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:08.759
<v Speaker 1>of the ones that it did not, but it did not. Yeah. Yeah. Uh.

0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Then two thousand five, Steve Chen, the co founder of YouTube, said,

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 1>there's just not that many videos I want to watch. Yeah. Yeah, so,

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean YouTube clearly doesn't have any place. I mean,

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 1>he co founded YouTube, but he was saying, you know,

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I just don't this thing that I built. I don't

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 1>know that it's really that useful because I mean, who

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:32.319
<v Speaker 1>wants to watch a little short videos all day? Yeah,

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:34.319
<v Speaker 1>he thought the service was probably going to fade away

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:36.279
<v Speaker 1>in the next couple of years. Then Google would come

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and six and buy it for a

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 1>cool one point six five billion dollars. So yeah, that

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 1>that whole idea. And of course now we got to

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:47.719
<v Speaker 1>a point where every single minute that passes, more than

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 1>a hundred hours of footage get uploaded to YouTube. Also,

0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 1>we're we're on YouTube. We're on YouTube. That's true. You

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 1>can watch forward thinking on YouTube. You can watch brain

0:48:57.120 --> 0:49:00.120
<v Speaker 1>stuff on YouTube. We have we have shows. What are

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:03.239
<v Speaker 1>other stuff shows that are also on YouTube? So go

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 1>check us out on YouTube. Hit that like button, subscribe,

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:08.399
<v Speaker 1>share it with your friends. You know the drill. So

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 1>then we have two thousand six. We have David Pogue

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 1>of the New York Times who said, everyone's always asking

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>me when Apple will come out with a cell phone.

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.880
<v Speaker 1>My answer is probably never. Apple came out with a

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:21.720
<v Speaker 1>cellphone the next year. Also related to that is our

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.399
<v Speaker 1>our final quote. This is from two thousand seven. Yes,

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:26.279
<v Speaker 1>now this is another one where you might say that

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:29.840
<v Speaker 1>bias played a role. Here's the quote, there's no chance

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share.

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 1>That was Steve Balmer of Microsoft, former CEO of Microsoft

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 1>at the time. He was the CEO of Microsoft. Now, again,

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:43.839
<v Speaker 1>this might have been very wishful thinking. Yeah, you if

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you are the head of a company that is in

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:51.799
<v Speaker 1>competition either directly or indirectly with Apple, and again you

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:55.320
<v Speaker 1>don't want to give too much credence to your competitors products.

0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 1>So there may have been some posturing there. It may

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:01.280
<v Speaker 1>have been that, or maybe the bomber really did believe

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 1>that the iPhone just was not going to get any

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of market share and that Windows Mobile at the

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:12.759
<v Speaker 1>time was fine. Um, it was not. Windows Mobile never

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 1>really cut on to the level. It never cut onto

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the level of the iPhone UM. Throughout numerous overhauls of

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the mobile operating system strategy that Microsoft had, none of

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<v Speaker 1>them came close to the popularity of the iPhone. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about the usability. If you're a Windows phone

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<v Speaker 1>fan like you, you you love that usability, that's great. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I I don't. I don't own an iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't have a dog in this fight. But

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<v Speaker 1>you have to admit it's nowhere near as popular as

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<v Speaker 1>the iPhone. Uh No, yeah, yeah, the the the iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>the last time I checked, was somewhere around yeah market.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look at it and you think this is

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<v Speaker 1>one line of phones, even if you divide it up

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<v Speaker 1>into the various moderations, Yeah, it's still one line of phones.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas andre wid you could say, yeah, but Android's got

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<v Speaker 1>a majority share. Yeah, but no one Android phone has

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<v Speaker 1>majority that's spread out over manufacturer, let alone models exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, interesting stuff. Well, obviously there are way more predictions.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, people say dumb stuff all the time, listen

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<v Speaker 1>to our podcast for example. But yeah, there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>other predictions we could have included on this. We hope

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe when he comes back will not be too

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<v Speaker 1>upset that we've done this one. We'll just make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we've marked these particular predictions down as ones we've

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<v Speaker 1>already covered, and maybe in a future episode will look

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<v Speaker 1>at some others. So if you have any thoughts of

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<v Speaker 1>things we should cover on this show, maybe you want

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<v Speaker 1>us to talk about really prescient predictions, things that actually

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<v Speaker 1>came true, things that people could not possibly have anticipated

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<v Speaker 1>and yet predicted. Let us know. We'll do an episode

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<v Speaker 1>about that too. That'd be a lot of fun. You

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