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Speaker 1: Sauce on the side. What's up, It's Gandhi with my

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Speaker 1: lovely producer Diamond Heather. Hi, we have someone on this

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Speaker 1: show today. I'm super excited about because one, I'm always

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Speaker 1: excited about every guests that we have on. But two,

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Speaker 1: he was the first guest on my podcast. He kicked

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Speaker 1: it off Bertie Gregory.

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Speaker 2: What great?

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Speaker 1: Well were you confused? Did you not think he was

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Speaker 1: a first guest?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was a first Okay, who did

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Speaker 2: I thought it was the guy who shouit it on

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Speaker 2: me about my dating profile because he has face but

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Speaker 2: I can't see real haird Freed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that was like way down the long whoa.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Bertie came in first. We did the whole

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Speaker 1: can I touch it? Thing? Oh, and that's where everything

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Speaker 1: sort of started. But now that you are saying this,

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Speaker 1: you're making me want to go check all of the episodes.

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Speaker 1: But since Bertie came in, because he came in to

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Speaker 1: talk about a series called Animals up Close, which I

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Speaker 1: was fascinated by. He talked about elephants and the Galapagus Islands,

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Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, and he won at least one

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Speaker 1: Emmy If not more for that specific show. So I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited. I was so proud of him. He was

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Speaker 1: he's here to talk about something called The Secrets of

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Speaker 1: the Penguins. I believe Secrets of the Penguins it's a

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Speaker 2: I would ask the most interesting thing he saw on

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Speaker 2: of talking about animals, like, you know, okay, actually saw

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Speaker 2: show me a picture maybe, or tell me a good

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Speaker 2: Well blah blah blah. Okay, I don't want to know

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you want to find out more about Bertie

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the first episode, Can I Touch It? Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Sauce on the Side. On this week's episode, Condy talks

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Speaker 1: with wildlife photographer Bertie Gregory about what it's really like

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Speaker 1: to create something. Huh interesting.

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Speaker 2: What was the date?

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Speaker 1: That was? February twelfth? Wow, of Year of Our Lord

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. I think twenty twenty four. Yeah, yeah, time's

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Speaker 1: just flying, man, I didn't know it was February twelfth.

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Speaker 1: I thought we released in April either or in uh January.

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Speaker 1: Huh. And here we are a whole year later and

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Speaker 1: now we're going to have a spinoff podcast. Let me

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Speaker 2: Well, Henry thought my name was gonna be PEPSI.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm like, I have to watch you open all

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Speaker 1: on this roller skating rink. Shit was good. Remember when

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Speaker 1: Do you know No, I wasn't there.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Okay, maybe please, I'm begging you, Okay, it's possible.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what this text message is that Bertie's here? No, Andrew,

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Speaker 3: Sure, Mary had little lamb, her fleece was white to

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Speaker 3: I can't give you too many specifics. Mickey Mouse will

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Speaker 1: The dots fair enough. So are you able to say

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Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not no. No. Sadly they've said I'm

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Speaker 3: to come back again, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Open door anytime. You want to come in, I would

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Speaker 3: it's all about you know, whilst I'm saying they're not scary,

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00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 3: they are potentially a very dangerous animal and you know

437
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,640
Speaker 3: they might just be playing with you, but they could

438
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,679
Speaker 3: still you take your arm off whatever. So it's all

439
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 3: about kind of you know, when you're in a bar

440
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 3: and everyone's getting more and more rowdy, and you know

441
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 3: at some point, like you feel like a bar fight's

442
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 3: going to break out. Yes, So it's all about knowing

443
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,959
Speaker 3: I'm going to leave just five minutes before the bar

444
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 3: fight breaks out. That's what you need to do. With

445
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 3: the Leopard seal. You're like, yeah, something, the mood has

446
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 3: changed here. I think it's time to leave.

447
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 1: You say that so casually, so you didn't have any

448
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 1: rough encounters with them, because you say, I can sense, okay,

449
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: about five minutes it's going to get bad here.

450
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 2: What is that like?

451
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 1: Is that environment?

452
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 3: There was one level steal actually that was that was

453
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 3: like bar fight mode before we even got in the water,

454
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 3: which has never happened to me actually, And it was

455
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 3: really funny because Neil and James who I was diving with.

456
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 3: Neil was driving the little rubber you know, ten foot

457
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,919
Speaker 3: rubber boat we were in and James was in the

458
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 3: water with me, and they'd never been in you know,

459
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 3: they'd never seen it was their first time in Antarctica.

460
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 3: They've never seen leopard seal. So I was kind of

461
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 3: talking them through what to expect, and I was saying,

462
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 3: like the bitey ones that are like you need to

463
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 3: get out of the water. They will get more and more,

464
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 3: they will like increase up to that level of bitiness,

465
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 3: and that's when we need to get out. But this,

466
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: the very first leopard seal we saw, was bitey from

467
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 3: like minute one it came. We were still on the

468
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 3: boat and it came flying over to us, zooming over

469
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 3: to us, and it went around one side of the boat,

470
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 3: bit down on the rubber tube. Immediately the tube goes punched.

471
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 3: It swims around the other side of the boat, and

472
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Speaker 3: now we're sinking because it's an inflatable boat.

473
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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

474
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I remember saying to Neil, like, you see

475
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 3: there's rocks over there. You just need to beat us

476
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 3: on those rocks or we're got to sink. So he

477
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 3: kind of went over and beached us on the rocks

478
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 3: and we're We're sat there now with no boat and

479
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: this lepond seal is like in the water, just like,

480
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 3: come on, guys, come on, come in. That was really fun.

481
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 3: Let's go, let's go. And we did actually while we

482
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: were waiting for our other boat to come help us,

483
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 3: me and James did actually just get in the water

484
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 3: with it because we're like, well, we've got to kill time.

485
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 3: We think it'll be all right.

486
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 2: And that is crazy.

487
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 1: That's crazier than me. I told you last time year here,

488
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Speaker 1: I'm always on the can I touch it thing? I

489
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: would want to touch it.

490
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 3: You don't want to touch leapond seals.

491
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Speaker 1: You want to get in the water and play with them?

492
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're good fun. Yeah. And the other thing

493
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: is they the key thing is I think as well

494
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: as interpreting their body language, they mirror your your mood.

495
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 3: If you're really nervous and jumpy and on edge, it

496
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 3: freaks them out. I mean they you know, our body

497
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: language transcends species in the same way with humans. You know,

498
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 3: if you want to put someone in the ease, you

499
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 3: need to be at ease. And so I really feel

500
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: like because I'm chill, they're they're way.

501
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: More relaxed was your partner that you were with.

502
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 3: Well, that's an interesting said James. Understandably, it was his

503
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: first first time in the water with the with the

504
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 3: leopard seals. He was kind of on edge and you

505
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 3: could really see the leopard seal behaving differently as it

506
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 3: went between us to check us both out. It was

507
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 3: much more relaxed with me, much more kind of on

508
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 3: edge and kind of pokey with with James, and of

509
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: course that makes you more more nervous. And what was

510
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 3: great was after that James was then like, okay, I

511
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 3: learned a lot from that dive. The next seal we

512
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 3: got in the water with he was much more chill

513
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 3: with And interestingly, I don't think it's a coincidence that

514
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 3: seal was much more chill with us. Interesting, so they

515
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 3: really mirror your body language, which is cool that you

516
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: can have like a body language conversation with an underwater

517
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 3: sea dragon.

518
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. So let me tell you this, You're the reason

519
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: that I'm probably gonna some day get bitten by something

520
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: because you're sitting here telling me. Something that I've convince

521
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: myself in my head is they can read the vibes.

522
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: I'll be cool, they'll be cool. It's fine, what.

523
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: I would say is I hope I don't. I haven't

524
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: encouraged you to go get a bit, because I think

525
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: part part of the job of filming animals and being

526
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 3: around them is how do you make sure that they

527
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 3: are comfortable? And you know, the media will have you

528
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: believe that many wild animals are just out to eat you, right,

529
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: And there's only a couple of animals that actually actively

530
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 3: hunt humans, and that takes very specific situation, which if

531
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: you do things correctly, you can avoid. So when you

532
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: see a human attacked by a wild animal, ninety nine

533
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 3: percent of the time, maybe even higher, the human has

534
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 3: done something wrong, or the humans that interacted with that

535
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: animal before that human who got bit did something wrong.

536
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: Try to feed it, So really or yeah, exactly, I

537
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 3: mean that's the classic one. You know, food conditioning is

538
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 3: a death wish for many large predators. And so really,

539
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 3: when we talk about, you know, coexistence of humans and wildlife,

540
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: it's not about changing the behavior of the wildlife. It's about,

541
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: you know, managing the behavior of the people. They're the

542
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: they're the problem.

543
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: Always. I always say it's people every single time. But

544
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: you say, there are a couple of animals that will

545
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: actually hunt humans. What are they?

546
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 3: Is it?

547
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: Polar bears?

548
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 3: Bears are one of them, yeah, and and tigers as well.

549
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, and there are a couple others which

550
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 3: in the right circumstances will or the wrong circumstances depending

551
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 3: on your perspective. Uh, but but yeah, yeah, polar bears

552
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: live in this fairly featureless environment and their survival is

553
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: based on you know, curiosity. Investigating anything is a meal

554
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 3: for them. And but there are also ways to manage

555
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 3: that based on interpreting their body language. So you know,

556
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 3: it's it's all about understanding. Really, you know, we're we're

557
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 3: we're scared of what we don't know. So you learn

558
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 3: enough about animals and and there's there's usually a way

559
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 3: to manage manage what you manage your own behavior to

560
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 3: manage theirs.

561
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: So when you're in that water with the leopard seal

562
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: that is the sea dragon, and there are all these

563
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: penguins around, and they are probably actively hunting those penguins

564
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: because they want food, you're not nervous in any capacity

565
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: that you might get caught up in the middle of that.

566
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: No, they're super smart animals. The other thing is as well,

567
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: like it's a bit like sharks. You know, leopard seal

568
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 3: is an ambush predator. You know, when you see them

569
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: hunting penguins, they come out of nowhere. Yeah, leopidzeals don't

570
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: show themselves to the penguins. The penguins see they're there

571
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: and then they attack them. You know, they need the

572
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 3: element of surprise. And so if a leopard seal really

573
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 3: wanted to eat you or attack you, it would come

574
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: out of nowhere and you know nothing about it. So

575
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 3: anytime a leopidzeel is kind of presenting itself to you

576
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 3: and being all curious and playful, that's exactly what it is.

577
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 3: It's curiosity. It's not it's not, you know, the precursor

578
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: to predation.

579
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Speaker 1: It's still terrifying. Good for you for knowing all of that.

580
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: What about other predators in the water, I mean, I

581
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: assume there are orcas down there?

582
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: No, yeah, yeah, half of the world's killer whales. Orcas

583
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 3: live in the waters around Antarctica. There are lots and

584
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 3: lots of them.

585
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: Did you see any.

586
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we saw saw lots of them. Yeah, they're

587
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: they're amazing. Been lucky enough to film them several times.

588
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

589
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: One of the episodes was on animals up close.

590
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, I mean they're they're incredible, incredible predators.

591
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: But you know, interestingly with them, there's a whole other

592
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 3: thing going on in that. You know, we humans are

593
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: not on the menu. That's just not what they do.

594
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: And you know, humans don't get attacked by killer welles

595
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 3: or at least today have not been attacked by kill

596
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: ol in the wild, only ever in captivity, you know,

597
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 3: when the animals are incredibly stressed. So yeah, I think

598
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: our relationship with animals, with wild animals, we are animals,

599
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 3: is fascinating because the way that we treat different animals,

600
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 3: you know, culturally, and and the way that they respond

601
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: to us. I think there's there's you know, why is

602
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,239
Speaker 3: it that you know, on the one hand, we you know,

603
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 3: many of us love dogs and have pet dogs in

604
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: our home. Yeah, you know, across North America, their closest relative,

605
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: the gray wolf, is is so aggressively persecuted. Yeah. Yeah,

606
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: it's it's it's so odd. It's fascinating our relationship with animals, truly.

607
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: So when you're this is going to sound like a

608
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: super super question, it is a dumb question. Are polar

609
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: bears down there?

610
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: No, So polar bears in the Arctic.

611
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so you didn't have to worry about that.

612
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: No, no, And that's the really lovely thing about filming

613
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: penguins is, yeah, they don't really have any terrestrial predators

614
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: land based predators. Yeah, so when they're on land with you,

615
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: on the ice with you, they're they're curious and kind

616
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: of Yeah, they're chill, which is you know, the if

617
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: you're filming, if you want to capture the you know,

618
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: the emotion and the drama of a human family, human

619
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: story a documentary, well you wouldn't sit in a bush,

620
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 3: you know, a couple hundred feet away with a big, long,

621
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: powerful lens and you know, one of those sniper Gillie

622
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: suits on and expect to catch the emotion. Well, that's

623
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: how we have to fill most wildlife documentaries with secrets

624
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: of the penguins. Because the penguins are chill, we can

625
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: be much close to them and use much much less

626
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: zoom lenses, less zoom lenses, that's terrible English, much much

627
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: wider lenses. And that's why this series feels so intimate

628
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: and really an emotional rollercoaster is because of that proximity

629
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: to them.

630
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: So without giving too much of it away because I

631
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: want people to watch so that they can figure out

632
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: what the secrets of the penguins are.

633
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: I feel like we can give lots away, and I

634
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: would hope people are still going to watch because it's. Yeah,

635
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: penguins are such cool animals, so charismatic, so hilarious. But

636
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: this animal of contrasts, like, on the one and they're

637
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: really funny and goofy and awkward, and then on the

638
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: other hand, you know, can deal with conditions that no

639
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: other animal on earth can deal with. I mean, that's

640
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: that seems so bizarre to me.

641
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: It is, and they look so goofy, yet apparently they

642
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: don't have a bird brain.

643
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: The very smart Yeah, well, I mean what's really cool

644
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: is that kind of collective intelligence. Like I feel like

645
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: the relationships between them have often been talked about, at

646
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: least with with the emperors, like the bond between the

647
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: mother and the father or between the parent and the chick.

648
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: But the coolest bond that I haven't really seen kind

649
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: of documented much, And that's what we really focused on

650
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: is the friendships that the chicks have. So unrelated chicks

651
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: from a really early age, the parents encourage chicks that

652
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: aren't related to kind of be friends, and they form

653
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: these little these little groups, these little gangs, and they

654
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: grow up together and then they kind of feed off

655
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: each other, not not literally, I mean they they their energy.

656
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: You know that they look for each other for confidence

657
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: and guidance, just like we do of our friends. And

658
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: I love that and that's a real big part of

659
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: the first episode is the teenage years of these emperor penguins.

660
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: And just like human teenagers, these penguin teenagers, their lives

661
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: are full of awkward moments and kind of experimental haircuts,

662
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 3: which is just hilarious.

663
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: That's so funny. So that was in the Antarctic, but

664
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: I also saw you filming in a much warmer, more

665
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: temperate climate.

666
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was sweet. I mean I've kind of

667
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: been pigeonholed professionally into filming in cold places. I spend about,

668
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: i don't know, eight nine months a year freezing my

669
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: butt off. So any opportunity to go to a hot place,

670
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: sign me up. So yeah, there are eighteen species of penguins,

671
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: and many of them don't live where we think penguins live, like,

672
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: you know, next to icebergs in Antarctica. I call them

673
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: the hot penguins. So there's some that live in the desert,

674
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: some that live in caves, some that lives in live

675
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: in cities. And my favorite of the hot penguins, I

676
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: need to get a T shirt with hot penguins right now. Yeah,

677
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: my favorite is the Glappagut penguin. So it's one of

678
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: the smallest and one of the rarest there's only two

679
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: thousand of them. And uh yeah, I mean you imagine, yeah,

680
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: you think of penguins, they live on icebergs and stuff. Well,

681
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: the ancestors of these penguins got swept north on a

682
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: crazy ocean current, ended up at the equator and got

683
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: out of the water on the side of a volcano,

684
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: covered in cactuses, looking at sea turtles, just being like,

685
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: we really took a wrong turn. Guys, I'm not sure

686
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: about this, but they're amazing survivors and they've figured it out.

687
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: They made it work. Where do they exist in the desert?

688
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: So we filmed them on the off the cost of

689
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 3: Namibia in Africa. Yeah, and yeah, there's a really cool

690
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of my favorite secrets. There's a

691
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: population of African penguins that live in this massive cave

692
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: and getting into that cave. You can only get in

693
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: on certain tides, so a couple times a month. So yeah,

694
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: our team were abs sailing down into the cave to

695
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: find these penguins that no one actually what's sailing? Ab

696
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: sailing like repelling I think is the American American term. Yeah,

697
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: using a rope to go down off a cliff and yeah,

698
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: it's yeah. No, So this colony has was kind of

699
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: reported on, but no one had been there for many years,

700
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: and so as part of the project, work with scientists

701
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: to go see if they were still there, and they are.

702
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: They just a bunch of penguins hanging out in a

703
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: cave in the desert.

704
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: That's crazy. And again you're talking about abs sailing. This

705
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: is just something a tool that you have in your backpack.

706
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: You know how to do this or do you have

707
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: to train before you go down there and figure out.

708
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 2: How to do it?

709
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of training involved. Ball. So you know,

710
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: one of the best parts about my job is that,

711
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: as well as getting to hang out with all animals,

712
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: get to hang out with cool people. Yeah, and our

713
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: teams are wicked. So in Antarctica, I was working with

714
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: this Scotsman called Scott Webster. He's like a polar specialist.

715
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: You know, I've spent quite a bit of time around ice,

716
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: but when you spend time with a real ice expert,

717
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: you realize that you know nothing. And his job was

718
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: basically to focus on kind of polar safety. And it

719
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: meant that I could focus all my effort on the

720
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: camera work and interpreting what the penguins were doing, and

721
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: he could occasionally come over and whisper, pack up your stuff,

722
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: We need to go in one minute because the piece

723
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: of ice were on has broken off of the main

724
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 3: piece of ice and is floating out into the Southern Ocean.

725
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: And that did actually.

726
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: Happen, and does it all calmly like that, And you're

727
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: like sure.

728
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he gave me a thirty minute warning. And then

729
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 3: I was like looking around, being like this looks very benign.

730
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: It was a lovely sunny day. And then yeah, he

731
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: came over and was like, you have one minute, let's go,

732
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 3: And I put my stuff on the snowmobile and turned

733
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: to drive kind of inland on the ice and I

734
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 3: had to dry. This crack was opening up in front

735
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: of me, and I drove over it and it was

736
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: about two feet wide. By the time Scott crossed it,

737
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: it was about three feet he like hopped over it,

738
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: and then we watched literally that piece of ice that

739
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 3: we'd spend the day on drift out into the sun

740
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 3: an ocean and disappear.

741
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: Well, that's terrifying. What's the insurance policy?

742
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: Like on the show, Well, I need to remember, on

743
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: the risk assessment it said, like worst case scenario, what

744
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: was it, catastrophic ice breakaway. Basically there's no like, there's

745
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 3: no like coastguard or or you know, helicopters they are

746
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: going to come rescue you. Certainly not in any you know,

747
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: quick time frame. So you just can't afford you know,

748
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: you can't break off on a piece of ice and

749
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 3: float away. That'd be really bad. Yeah, so we'd yeah,

750
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: behind our snowmobil is so funny, I mean sort of

751
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: half funny in a retrospect.

752
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

753
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. So we basically had this like a life raft

754
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: that we dragged around behind our snowmobils. And I always

755
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: found that so ridiculous that we were just tearing around

756
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 3: this life raft despite being on like solid ice, And

757
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: it was because there was a chance that the piece

758
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: of ice were on could break off and just drift

759
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: out into the ocean, and we need this life raft.

760
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: It was ridiculous.

761
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: Does your family when you go out to do these shit,

762
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: these shoots, worry about you?

763
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah for sure. But I don't know. I

764
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: think walking down the street here and New York's far

765
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 3: more dangerous statistically.

766
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, I think so. I think there's something like,

767
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: you're more likely to get bitten by a New Yorker

768
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: than a shark at any given moment.

769
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: I think it's far more likely. Yeah, I think it's

770
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: only Yeah, how many shark fatalities is a six or

771
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 3: seven or something? Yeah, yeah, compared to.

772
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: New York City fatalities much higher?

773
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

774
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely. So when you're doing these shoots back to back

775
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: to back, what does that leave you as far as

776
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: time for your personal life? Do you have one? Yeah?

777
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean sure. Yeah. It makes it challenging. I

778
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: find the like the re entry process, you know, like

779
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 3: astronaut re entry difficult because you're Yeah, I mean it's

780
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 3: like coming back from another world, you know, of icebergs

781
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 3: and minus thirty in tents and penguins to then you know,

782
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: fast forward a few days and you're in the supermarket

783
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: deciding what type of lettuce to buy. You're like, what

784
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 3: is what is going on here?

785
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: It would be wild ye home for you.

786
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: I live in Bristol, which is in the southwest of England.

787
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so do you just look around and you're like,

788
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm bored here. I got to get back out. Or

789
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: do you enjoy a little bit of time?

790
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah it's nice, you know, it's nice. It's nice to

791
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 3: mix it up. But yeah, after being at home for

792
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: a little while, I get pretty itchy to get back

793
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: out in the world.

794
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: You know.

795
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: I think modern day society have become so disconnected from nature,

796
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: and I think that's part of the reason that, you know,

797
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: the planet and humanity, because we rely on a healthy planet,

798
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: is in so much trouble because we've kind of distanced

799
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: ourselves from from nature. Was sort of forgotten that we're

800
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 3: part of it. And yeah, so I struggle with that,

801
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: you know, coming back to a different, different world.

802
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how long can you be at home before

803
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: that it starts and you're like, I gotta get out.

804
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: A couple of days? No, no, no, I don't know. Yeah,

805
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: sort of sort of depends. I think. Actually, the nice

806
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: thing about filming in Antarctica is it takes a very

807
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 3: long time to get there and come back, which is

808
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 3: kind of annoying in some ways. You know, the journey

809
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 3: can be quite boring, as many days quite sea sicky

810
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: as well, but it does mean you've kind of got

811
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: your brain has time to like process that this is

812
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: a really far away place from where you live. I

813
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: think with like you know, plains, it's it's I mean

814
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: it's almost like teleporting, Like you get from one place

815
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: to a completely different place very very quickly, and I

816
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 3: think my brain, I think many human brains struggle with

817
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: that concept that like how am I? How am I here?

818
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: Whereas you could sort of have this long period of acclimatization.

819
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 3: And I find when you go to Antarctica, just the

820
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 3: emotion that you experience when you see the icy wall

821
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 3: of mountains appear out of the mist on the horizon,

822
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: Like I mean, sure it might be because I'm like, yeah,

823
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 3: maybe high on sea sickness medication and like deliriously tired,

824
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: but you really feel something. And I find when I

825
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: go to other places where you might have got there

826
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: on a plane, it's very different. You don't feel as

827
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: much when you first see it, and then it takes

828
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: a while to kind of get into it.

829
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: When you do these incredible, amazing things that are not

830
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: just visually beautiful and spectacular and things that most people

831
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: aren't going to see, but you're also physically experiencing things

832
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: that most people are not going to do. You ever

833
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: have a hard time relating to normal everyday people when

834
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: you come back when you talk to them about the Kardashians,

835
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: No way, why not?

836
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 3: It's good to catch up on Kim's gossip.

837
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, right.

838
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: I think it sort of depends. I think it's recognizing

839
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: that everyone's lives are different and they're exciting in different ways.

840
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that. Yeah, people often say, oh, yeah,

841
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: your life's so much more exciting than my. I was

842
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: just you know, we get kicks out of doing different things.

843
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: Admit it is much more exciting than most people.

844
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 3: It's just different.

845
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 1: That's a very humble way to look at.

846
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: It is different. Yeah, And I mean if you live

847
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 3: in New York, yeah, a different kind of wildlife here.

848
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: It is wild here.

849
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. So so yeah, it's it's different. And I think,

850
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 3: you know, life's about enjoying the passage of time. And

851
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: I had a really interesting idea that, you know, the

852
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: best way to enjoy the passage of time is to

853
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 3: get in a flow state, you know, where you're kind

854
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: of you're so focused on the thing you're doing, you're

855
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: not aware of time going past. And so if if

856
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: enjoying the passage of time is the meaning of life, wow,

857
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: we got deep quick, don't we. If enjoying the passage

858
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: of time is the meaning of life, and then a

859
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: flow state is a great way of you know, being

860
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: happy and enjoying the passage of time. Figure out how

861
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 3: you get in a flow state, and then try to

862
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: do that thing as much as possible. And for me,

863
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: that's hanging out with cool animals. So that's that's that's

864
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: what I try and do.

865
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: So what's your favorite normal person thing to do your home?

866
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: How do you find your flow state at home? Do

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Speaker 1: you find your Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, you know, hanging out with friends and

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Speaker 3: family is awesome. I mean, I'm not sure this is

870
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Speaker 3: a normal personal activity, but it just sprung and popped

871
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Speaker 3: into my mind. A big fan of frisbee golf at

872
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Speaker 3: the moment.

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Speaker 1: I think that's normal.

874
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: Familiar with frisbee golf. I love it. It's sweet. Yeah,

875
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Speaker 3: and it's where I lived. There's like a couple of courses,

876
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 3: the run through this cool bit of forest. Nice way

877
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Speaker 3: to spend time out in nature and get competitive with

878
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 3: your friends, which is always a good thing. And yeah,

879
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Speaker 3: I got a lot of time for Frisbee golf. Whether

880
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 3: or not I hit full flow state on the Frisbee

881
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: golf course, I'm not sure. I'd have to think about that,

882
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Speaker 3: but it's certainly a lot of fun.

883
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Speaker 1: You're having a good time doing it, and then two

884
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: days later you got to get back out and do

885
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: something else. Do you have a dream, destination or animal

886
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: that you are trying to go after.

887
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: Next Yes, And to find out what those are, you'll

888
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: have to watch the next season of Animals up Close,

889
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: which sounds like which sounds like a shameless plug, but

890
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: it's true. I mean, that's why I love working I

891
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 3: seek yourself also love working on Animals up Close because, yeah,

892
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Speaker 3: I have a hand in where we go and what

893
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 3: we film, and they're usually stories, well they're always stories

894
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 3: that kind of I'm passionate about and want to tell.

895
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, excited to see what people think about the

896
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Speaker 3: new season.

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Speaker 1: Okay, are you in a position to call your shots

898
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Speaker 1: now where you say this is the animal I want

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Speaker 1: send me there or other people still saying, hey, maybe

900
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Speaker 1: we want you to check this on.

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00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: The cool thing about Animals up Close, you know, and

903
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: epic adventures, it's kind of early evolution is that that's

904
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: kind of always been the way. That's why it feels,

905
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: you know, very very real and kind of raw, is

906
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: because you know, it's following me and my team on

907
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: our adventures, like we want to go to these places

908
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: and this you know, we chose to go there. We

909
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 3: haven't just been kind of slapped onto a project going

910
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 3: to a place. And that's really cool.

911
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: What a life? How amazing You just get to decide

912
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Speaker 1: this is something that I want to pursue, and then

913
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Speaker 1: you have a team of people backing you up saying, yeah,

914
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Speaker 1: you're really good at this.

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00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: You should go. It's not quite that simple, are There's

916
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Speaker 3: a little more back and forth, but sure we can

917
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Speaker 3: leave it at that.

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Speaker 2: That's all okay.

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Speaker 1: So people want to watch Secrets of the Penguins, where

920
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: are they going to find it?

921
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 3: So Animals up Close the current season is streaming on

922
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: Disney Plus, and yeah, we'll be announcing the date when

923
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Speaker 3: new seasoned.

924
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: See I would ask you what you thought of the interview,

925
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: but I know you don't care about animals, so I

926
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Speaker 1: will just say, what do you think of Bertie as

927
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Speaker 1: a person?

928
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Speaker 2: Very nice guy. Yeah, cheers to Bertie and all his exploration.

929
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to be my friend and like take

930
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Speaker 1: me on one expedition.

931
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Speaker 2: No, you would get Bertie killed. So how would I

932
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Speaker 2: do that?

933
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Speaker 1: Oh?

934
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe hearing that a beer is near

935
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Speaker 2: and running towards the beer.

936
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Speaker 1: No. No, see, if I'm not in charge, I will

937
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: follow the leader and he would be the leader on that.

938
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Speaker 1: Is there a possibility that a penguin would get smuggled

939
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Speaker 1: a backpack? Yes? Actually too, because you can't just have one,

940
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Speaker 1: that's me to have one by itself, you have to

941
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Speaker 1: have two.

942
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Speaker 2: Didn't you learn your lessons with penguins a long time ago?

943
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

944
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: I got it. It was worse by in my life. Okay,

945
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Speaker 1: worse by serrated beak so they can crush fish. Ah

946
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Speaker 1: on my foot. It was terrible. That's okay. I still

947
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Speaker 1: love them and they have lovely little bellies and all

948
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Speaker 1: I want to do.

949
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Speaker 2: Is touch a little belly or No, so you have like.

950
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: No affection toward any type of creature. You're not like,

951
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's so cute.

952
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: I like dogs. Okay, that I like. Okay. I keep

953
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,479
Speaker 2: telling people this. It's like someone who doesn't like kids,

954
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: but then they have a kid, or they have a

955
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Speaker 2: niece or a nephew that they love so much. My

956
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: family members that have dogs, I love them. Yeah, if

957
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Speaker 2: it's a random dog on the street, unless they remind

958
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: me of a dog in my family, I'm like, get

959
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: that thing away from me, so I'll see a dog.

960
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: You're so cute, don't get a bye, don't touch me,

961
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Speaker 2: you know.

962
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Speaker 1: So Scottie dog Sawyer not a fan.

963
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm allergic, so I am too. Yeah, I

964
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Speaker 2: don't every time he brings him in my eyes.

965
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Speaker 1: Itch, no, let me tell you hear this. No Clareton, baby,

966
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Speaker 1: no no, I offer everybody my allergy meds so that

967
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Speaker 1: they can all go play with Slawyer because he said

968
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Speaker 1: a good boy. What about Ali and Max?

969
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 2: Oh they're cute.

970
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: Oh they're cute.

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Speaker 2: They're cute. There, they're cute, And I like the difference

972
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Speaker 2: between them. Max is like he used to come and

973
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Speaker 2: Elvis used to bring him in all the time. So

974
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Speaker 2: I was used to Max and he was chill, And

975
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Speaker 2: then I loved when he turned up on this one

976
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Speaker 2: person once and I was like, oh, Max, you're my guy.

977
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Speaker 2: I get it. Ali, The verdict is still out on him.

978
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Speaker 2: But because he's always with Max, I'm like, okay. And

979
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Speaker 2: he's a little older now, so I'm hoping he's not

980
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: doing the crazy shit he used to do. So like whatever,

981
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: who that.

982
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: Guy kicks down gates, Well, good for him, I love him.

983
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:45,479
Speaker 2: Okay.

984
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: Who else is Taz? You don't like Taz?

985
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: No, because Taz tries to attack me literally every time

986
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: he sees he's trying to play with you. No, but okay.

987
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: And what about Oscar? Who's Oscars? Rachel's Bessenji?

988
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: Hell no, that dog looks like he would bite a

989
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 2: chunk out of my cat. I say it all the time.

990
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: It's so cut all right, I love all of those dogs.

991
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: What about D'Angelo?

992
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 2: Who is that? Oh that dog? No, he bit up

993
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: the carpet he did.

994
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: That's because Andrew wasn't watching him.

995
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, why do we always have to watch animals

996
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: because he's a puppy. Back in the day, they used

997
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: to just let dogs run free in their back.

998
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: Talking about like the organ trail days.

999
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: Sure, I wasn't there for it. I don't really know,

1000
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: but you don't lie.

1001
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: Okay, So no dogs for Diamond unless they're a familial

1002
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: dog and then she'll like it and pay. So that's

1003
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Speaker 1: how I feel about babies. Yeah, I'm like, if they're

1004
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: babies in my family, I think you're so cute and

1005
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: I will, you know, be patient with you other people's kids.

1006
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: Please back up, please, A random baby crying on a plane,

1007
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: I'm like.

1008
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: Shut the crump, all right. So if you want to

1009
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 1: find Diamond on Instagram.

1010
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: She is at Diamond Sincere.

1011
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: And I am at Baby Hot Sauce and we're going

1012
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: to figure out what to do with this episode of

1013
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: our thoughts on things and what to name it. If

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Speaker 1: you have a suggestion, please push a little red talk

1015
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Speaker 1: back button and tell us what the spinoff episode of

1016
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: Sauce on the Side should be where we just discussed

1017
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Speaker 1: current events and our thoughts on those. Okay, until next time,

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Speaker 1: say bye bye.