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Speaker 1: What would you talk about on your on your podcast

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Speaker 1: funding show? Do we continue to debate? Uh, I'm down,

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Speaker 1: I'm down. You know. You know what Gandy brought up

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Speaker 1: a really good point actually when we were doing a

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Speaker 1: debate on the air. There's a lot of people that

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if we can say things about or

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Speaker 1: how we feel and whatnot. And so I don't even

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Speaker 1: want to get involved it into You don't want to

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Speaker 1: upset people because everyone has their own opinions exactly it.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to discredit and discount people for certain thing,

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Speaker 1: and you've really got to separate their artistry from there.

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Speaker 1: As Holary you're talking about you go first, well, not

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Speaker 1: saying it, I mean if if we're doing that right,

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Speaker 1: because obviously you know, Michael Jackson's to make it on

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Speaker 1: there and stuff like that. But Chris Brown, people would

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Speaker 1: make an argument that he's incredible if you look at

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Speaker 1: his sales, he's a great dancer, he writes all kinds

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Speaker 1: of stuff, artest artists of all times. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if any of these people are the greatest of all time.

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Speaker 1: I know mine are, but I don't know about Jerors.

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Speaker 1: I think I don't think Chris Brown's in a goat

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Speaker 1: conversation though, No, I don't think he's good. Been to

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Speaker 1: it really is. But I'm just I'm saying, when you're

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Speaker 1: I'm with you when somebody says, Kanye, you want to go, well,

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Speaker 1: what about all this other stuff? But then you it's

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Speaker 1: hard to find somebody who's done the other things he's done. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's done a lot, and he has spawned other artists,

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Speaker 1: and he is you know, he's a nut job and

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Speaker 1: we all know that, but he's still pretty damn creative

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Speaker 1: and has been, you know, on top. I just I

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Speaker 1: really want to give it to Rihanna. So I'm going

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Speaker 1: to what about Green Day? I mean, talented, but the

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Speaker 1: greatest of all time. I just have a problem with

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Speaker 1: voting for anyone who is manufactured by a record label.

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Speaker 1: Back in the day before before internet, before internet, um,

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Speaker 1: record labels would kind of like mold and you know,

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Speaker 1: my vote for Lady Gaga rather than discredit others that

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Speaker 1: will may nameless on that hill. Uh and they afore

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Speaker 1: age where she she struggled by playing small club to

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Speaker 1: small club. She in addition to writing all her music

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Speaker 1: when she won an Oscar and she's got all these Grammys.

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Speaker 1: You know she's a great actor, but she's she's a

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Speaker 1: show a show person. She's like meaning like she can

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Speaker 1: she did it in an age where there's so much

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Speaker 1: static and noise. By when I say static and noise,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's so much going on now, it's hard

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Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying, it's I mean, there's there's so

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Speaker 1: the labels put people in front of you and then

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Speaker 1: you consume them like good consumers do. Gaga jumped in

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Speaker 1: and just fucking just annihilated it, all shattered at all.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people that we're talking about they didn't too. Also,

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Speaker 1: Gaga want an Oscar for a song. I don't want

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Speaker 1: I'm saying there's a difference, but she was She's still

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Speaker 1: an actress in some films. But do you guys, but

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Speaker 1: she didn't win an Oscar for that? No, I see

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Speaker 1: the point you're trying to make. Listen, Yeah, we could

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Speaker 1: somebody else would come along and challenge who we were

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Speaker 1: all saying. I mean to to Danielle's point, like I

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Speaker 1: think ed Shearon is just phenomenal as far as songwriting

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Speaker 1: So maybe you can do that. At Sharon, Ryan Tedder,

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Speaker 1: the producer twenty five number one single since Baby One

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Speaker 1: pulling the strings? No way. Max Martin's like a factory

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Speaker 1: just gave me a reason to put jay Z in

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Speaker 1: because we didn't mention Beyonce is not the greatest of

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is what he's done in his career

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Speaker 1: of all times as well. She's a great performer period

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Speaker 1: but she doesn't play an instrument. She does she does,

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Speaker 1: And if that's the case, then Rihanna doesn't stand a chance.

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Speaker 1: the best singers, Sorry, she's not even top ten. Then, um,

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Speaker 1: she's not the best performer. Also, everyone writes for Rihanna.

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Speaker 1: like a businesswoman, right, so she's like, I don't I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily say she's the greatest artist. I think if

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about built and like manufacture influential parents,

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Speaker 1: Nation when they clearly back Beyonce. Also, Matthew her Mays

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Speaker 1: guys because I'm like, diamonds not there yet. She's not clapping,

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Speaker 1: But as soon as I saw a diamond start speaking

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Speaker 1: allow you to come from Beyonce like that greatest performer

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Speaker 1: I think he is a way better dancer singer. At

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Speaker 1: I think Sharon is a better performer. He doesn't even

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Speaker 1: need to dance ed. Sharon's music is powerful. Let's put

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Speaker 1: it like that. That is, he knows how to make music.

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Speaker 1: That feels good conversation for some of the He's one

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Speaker 1: the thing. Nobody is competing with Beyonce when it comes

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Speaker 1: to performing. They are, though Freddie Mercury jan it also doesn't.

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Speaker 1: The thing about it is is that Janet. The only

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Speaker 1: But if you don't have the technology, then isn't harder?

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Speaker 1: So doesn't that give you a little bit of an

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Speaker 1: were you saying? I said, could Beyonce put on a

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Speaker 1: concert if she didn't dance? Right, you're saying she's a

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Speaker 1: but a lot of her performance is choreo choreographed dance

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Speaker 1: that everyone on stage is doing the same dance. Right,

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Speaker 1: She's not reinventing dance. She's doing the same move as

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Speaker 1: the other people who dance. I feel like to be

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Speaker 1: a performer. For me, it's what you like, right, So

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Speaker 1: you like Beyonce's dancing. For me, I like a guitar

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Speaker 1: Kiss is a better performer than God because that's you.

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Speaker 1: You don't you know you don't like that type of music.

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Speaker 1: For for Froggy, he likes uh, let's say Brad Paisley

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Speaker 1: right or red because what they do, Keith well, they

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Speaker 1: do is what he likes to watch, right, I think

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Speaker 1: you need some of the boys. When the five of

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Speaker 1: them are dancing with those chairs, that's that's pretty epic.

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Speaker 1: Hell out of here with the back boys, I can't

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Speaker 1: say hear he likes the Beastie Boys and they don't

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Speaker 1: that they're the best performance that you can like different

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Speaker 1: things my personal taste. I'm surprised I didn't say that

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Speaker 1: you and I differ. Diamond, You're like, you're like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, because I'll tell you you personally feel I'm

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Speaker 1: taking my personal feelings away from that. Listen you too,

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Speaker 1: you too, Are we serious, Scary? I say this, if

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Speaker 1: Scary brought his personal feelings into this, he would have

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Speaker 1: brought a Britney Spears because nobody loves here. Guy. We

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Speaker 1: got to be logical, you two and Beastie Boy. But

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Speaker 1: even if I didn't like Beyonce, she's still one of

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Speaker 1: take that away. Right to me, she's the greatest, but

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Speaker 1: let's take me personally out of it. She's still one

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Speaker 1: without a doubt. I don't think he's an answer. I

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Speaker 1: think to everybody is going to pick who they think

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Speaker 1: is the greatest of all time. I think we need categories. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we definitely definitely need we talk about Barbie Girl. Come on,

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Speaker 1: even I know that that is enjoyable, but it is

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