WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Are They Done? 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.080 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:15.440 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Let's go. Are 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:18.320 you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:23.440 a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and so 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:27.320 much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:33.440 Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:39.680 Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, March twenty third, 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:44.080 twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, Episode number one. Welcome to 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.040 the latest edition of The Break. We are live Nest 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.839 WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Are you looking like 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.720 that you didn't know this episode one? I guess we 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:55.840 didn't started. We did start the new calendar year, right, Mike. Yeah, 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.800 we're going We're going back to the numbers. What I'm 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:03.840 just kidding? What numbers? Bro? You mean like the Jersey numbers. 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.120 I mean, you got a one? You want to throw 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.080 it out there? No, I don't know who the number 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.280 one is gonna be this year, so it'll be interesting. 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.040 There'll be some people fighting for it if they're not already. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:19.120 Really yeah, number one, it's no, it's the number one. 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.120 I mean everybody wants that. They still want it. That's 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.320 what they They're not too far removed from college where 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.040 that's a big deal. So yeah, yeah, I would imagine 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.039 I would. I don't I really don't know this. I 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.280 would think Tony Pollard, Kelvin Joseph, those guys they had 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.600 it in college. Oh well, Tony did have it in college, right, 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.160 you know somebody will get into it. Yeah, all right, Um, 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:39.920 we got a lot of stuff we're gonna talk about today. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.480 We're gonna talk about some of these recent signings, talk 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.040 about some big picture stuff around the defense and offense 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.040 and where they have to go from here, knowing what's 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.800 happened so far in free agency. Uh. And then we might, 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:51.880 if we have enough time, we might start a little bit, 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.800 a little bit extra this week of getting ready for 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.000 draft to have a couple of these guys give us 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.280 some of their thoughts on guys that they think could 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.360 possibly be there at twenty four. We'll do that over 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.320 the next four or five weeks getting ready for the draft, 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.880 and let you guys know what thoughts are, what thoughts 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.520 we have around those players that might be there. Let's 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.360 start first of the recent signings. I'm gonna throw out 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.120 a name, and then you guys, tell me what's the 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.799 deal and tell me your thoughts on the deal. We'll 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:18.480 go around the table when you guys can talk about it. 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.240 Let's start first with Dante Fowler. He was signed by 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.880 the Cowboys. What were your thoughts on that deal? What 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:25.560 was the deal first of all? And what were your 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:30.880 thoughts on him? I don't I don't even remember the numbers. Honestly. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.960 I thought it was one, three, Yeah, all I know 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.240 it was all underneath fourteen, like combined. That's what I know. 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.520 The Dante Fowler move is is it was a pivot 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.519 move um after you know Randy situation, and then they 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:46.760 they were like, all right, we're gonna get Drans, We're 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:48.959 gonna get another guy. And you know, this is a 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.080 this is a dan Quinn type signing of somebody that 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:56.360 he's coveted two other times in his life, and uh, 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:58.200 this is the third time that he got him in. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.520 So I think he's he's just a another pass rusher, 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:03.960 another body who's had some potential. I mean, he's had 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.720 some big years at times. But you know, we'll see 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.040 how they use them here. We can just put all 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.519 of this under the same umbrella like they reached under 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.079 the table and grabbed the big old Dallas Cowboys Free 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.480 Agency playbook with the star on it and opened it 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.359 up and they're just following it page by page. Don 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:25.120 after Randy. Yeah, yeah, because the Randy thing was like, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.119 we're just gonna do this, and then this is this 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.919 is not smart, but we're gonna do it. And then 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.240 then and it was gonna mess up everything else. It 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.320 was gonna That was why that thing was under the table. 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.760 But once Randy did that, then it's like, we'll go 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.600 back to what we I would argue that the Randy 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.600 thing would have fit under the purview of what they do, 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.720 considering resigning your own not breaking the bank to do it, 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.160 but a deal that both sides can agree on. And 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.280 they pivoted to signing about five guys with the money instead, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:04:00.440 But like resigning your own player at not top of 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.080 the market still fits under what they prefer to do 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.200 in my opinion. But anyway, yeah, I mean Dante Fowler 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.800 was a top five pick. He hasn't achieved that potential. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.600 They love signing guys like that. They've done it the 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:16.040 whole time I've been here. I don't really have any comments. 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:22.400 I'm like, sorry, it's like, you get these guys. We 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:27.240 got a new guy that's how time here and he 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.480 comes here, he does an interview. I forgot with who. 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:34.760 I don't know if it was with Britt or they 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.719 do the interview. He sounds excited, you know, everybody that 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.960 comes here, it's like, yeah, I've always wanted to play here. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.039 It's exciting, and you're just at least me, I'm just 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.080 sitting here. I'm like, Okay, you seem like a nice guy. 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.560 I like you so far. Okay, let's see what you do. 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.880 That's that's good that you're happy. I'm glad you're happy. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.920 I'm not happy just yet. You know, like, right now, 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.960 I'm just having a hard time. And I'm not saying 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:03.200 that people shouldn't be excited or should be excited either way, 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.839 but it's just one of those things that right now, yes, 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:11.480 good at some depth, get ready for the draft, to 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:15.680 back yourself up where you're not having completely holes, like 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:20.200 full on holes in your list. But at the same time, 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.480 I mean, I'm not excited. Well, let me ask you this. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.320 They also added Dorance Armstrong. Do you think that at 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:30.440 this point they have enough at defensive end to be 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.240 able to keep Michael Parsons where they want him, which 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.320 is kind of a guy that's kind of roaming around 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.200 playing linebacker. Or do you think they're still they still 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:42.479 need more and he provides that more at defensive end. Yeah, 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.560 I mean, I think that's the strategy that I would 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.960 move forward with. I mean, Michael Parsons is going to 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.039 rush the passer. I don't care if they don't have 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.440 anybody else. He's going to do it and he should 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.599 do it. Not full time, but they have enough here 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.560 to allow him to continue to be a versatile player. 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:03.240 I said this yesterday Zadarius Smith signed in Minnesota. You 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.719 can't look at the and I want to be clear, 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.159 I don't think the Cowboys pass rush is great as 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.479 it's currently constructed. But I look out at the free 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.040 agent market and I don't see anybody that's worth splashing 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:17.599 that kind of money on that's going to make it 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:21.640 significantly better. Maybe what did that opinion change once Zadarius 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.320 Smith got signed or when he was still out there 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.040 At the same thing, I might have signed Zadarius Smith, 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.839 although the money that he got was pretty impressive for 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.440 a guy that missed the entire season with a back injury. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.719 I don't know that I would have been excited about 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:39.640 that deal for the money and the same you know, 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.960 Clowney's still out there again. Return on investment? What is 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.719 that JPP had offseason surgery. He's been in the league 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.600 for like twelve years at this point. What's your ROI there? 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.840 I just think I would rather spend that kind of 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.000 going back to Nick's point, I'd rather spend that money 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.000 on three or four other maybe decent players at other 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:02.640 spots than try to recapture that magic. And you got Fowler, Dorrence, 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:12.800 Tank Basham and Chauncey Golston. Yeah, fine, you're fine. Then 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.960 you add Mica to that and hope that it can 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.120 be better than fine. Right, And the saving grace to 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.440 me is that we still have dan Quinn and until 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.880 proven otherwise, based on what he showed us last year 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.880 and what he did with free agent guys, I still 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.280 have hope and I believe that he can show us 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.880 and give us a lot more than what these guys 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.200 have done around the NFL so far. And that's included 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.440 with Randy Gregory. I mean, like Gregory, his best season 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.920 was last year. We don't know for sure if he 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.960 can do it without dan Quinn. I mean, obviously people 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.000 think that he can. Denver thought he could, but you know, 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:52.960 he exceeded expectations, just like Micah Parsons did, just like 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:58.200 Dorrence Armstrong did the Curse. There's a lot of people 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:01.280 that had their best season last year, and so you know, well, 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.840 only time will tell on all that. Nick, you you 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:06.880 had told me in some conversations we'd had that you 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.240 were kind of interested in a guy like this guy, 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.040 guy like Jadevian Clowney. Do you think that maybe that 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.280 was a that would have been a better signing than 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:18.400 maybe Dante Fowler. Well, Clowney is really more of a 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.200 I mean, I wouldn't say he's just a run stopper, 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.679 but he is a pretty good run stopper. He's similar, 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.800 I think to DeMarcus Lawrence. And maybe you don't want 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.120 him to be your best pass rusher, but he's probably 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.640 a well rounded defensive end. I kind of liked that route. 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:37.240 They his name has never come up, so I don't know. 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.079 I don't know whether they didn't like it obviously, but 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.319 I don't think they ever have. But that was I 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.679 don't know, I mean I would, but I mean I 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.400 would think, you know, he probably a lot more expensive 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.760 than Dorance Armstrong and Dorance. He's kind of that guy. 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.160 It's kind of a pornman's Clowney, I guess. I mean, 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.960 and I don't say this as in a bad way. 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:01.599 I get maximize your profits, my dude, But like Clowney is, 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.839 Clowney has like a mercenary attitude, which is fine, which 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.679 is again fine, but he's not I want to wear 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.440 at the star on my helmet and take less money 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.600 to work with Lynton. No, He's like, No, somebody eventually 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.599 will give me ten million a year or whatever it 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:17.360 is that I'm looking for. It'll happen, even if it 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.679 takes me until I get to wait until August, if 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.640 I have to. Yeah. Like, he's demonstrated that attitude with 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.560 his last two or three teams, and so the Cowboys 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.560 don't typically strike deals with those types of guys. Yeah, 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.040 all right, let's talk about late Vanderish linebacker. He signs 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.720 a one year deal. What are your thoughts on bringing 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.720 Layton back this year? I mean, I like it because 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:42.160 of what it does from Micah, I mean, more depth 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.920 you have at linebackers, guys that you're okay putting out there, 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:49.000 the more it'll free things up for him. I think 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.959 the money, you know, it's unfortunate what happened to him. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:53.760 I thought one of the teams or a couple of 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:58.280 teams kind of screwed him over, honestly, but that's the 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.800 way the marketing. But well, I think I think there 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:04.839 were deals in place, very close to agreed, and then 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.319 it then they switched gears on him, and it just 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.839 kind of you know, I think he was thinking it 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:12.880 was going to go one way and then next thing 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:14.679 you know, it's not. And then money drives up kind 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:18.400 of quick and his number goes down dramatically. But you know, 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.520 it's all on tape. I mean that they had a 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.040 lot of time, teams had a lot of time to 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.880 study this, and so I think he's a fit for 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.280 certain teams and certain games. There's gonna be some games 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.120 where the teams run the ball a lot, and I 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.280 think Layton will be a bigger factor. I don't think 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.880 it was a coincidence that his opinion, one of his 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.880 best games last year was a San Francisco and so 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.240 when games like that happen, he can help. When he's 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.520 chasing receivers and tight ends all over the field, it's 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.760 not going to be great. So I think, you know, 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:46.679 I think gone or the days where he's the all 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.760 Pro first round pick howling all over the stadium. I 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.920 think that's gone. But I think he can still have 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.880 a value there and he could be a really solid 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.840 player and at times he can be a really good player. Yeah, 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:02.000 I mean it feels different because he played here, he 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.079 has always played here, and he's a first round pick, 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.640 so you've kind of view it through that prism. But 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:10.920 like strip that away and it's a Dallas Cowboys signing 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.199 covers your tracks, so you're not forced to draft a 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.920 linebacker early. You have a veteran who can do it. 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.160 He's not going to light the world on fire, probably, 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.760 but you're not paying him that way anyway. Pair. I mean, 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:27.480 so between Micah Layton and Jabril Cox, you have like 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.120 three that you feel okay about. I'd like to see 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.559 them out another one, but before the draft, Like, it 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.280 doesn't have to be Keyan O'Neil. Apparently he's switching back 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:42.000 to safety anyway. Yeah, it doesn't have to be Keyan O'Neil. 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.640 It could be somebody else, but I'd like to see 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:48.720 them bring in somebody else again, Gifford's back now, right, Yeah, 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.839 he knows that, Derek. He's also saying somebody else. I 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.880 just thought I'd like to see them bring in somebody else. 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:02.920 But again it's they're again, they're following the playbook. They 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:07.000 just they're doing what they can to not panic about 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.880 the positions on their roster so that they can draft purely. Ever, 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:16.080 I hate, like you mentioned Luke Giffer, but now it's 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.719 like I hate when someone gets me excited and then 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:23.120 nothing happens. Like that's another guy that I liked the 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.640 moment he stepped here and I saw him a training game. 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.160 That used to be like you were like, okay, yeah, yeah, 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:32.960 because he like physically he has what you would want 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:37.080 in a linebacker and he fit the mold of that linebacker. 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.400 So he gave me a lot of whole and I 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.720 was like enthusiastic about him and really wanted to see 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.000 what the Cowboys could get out of him, and it 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:48.400 just never really happened. And he's had a few injuries 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:53.840 that just sidelined him, but it's just it's it's unfortunate. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.960 And then and you can go back to Laton Venderish, 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.160 another guy that comes in here, Shawnee gets hurt, he 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.920 steps in, takes the role, becomes that guy had an 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.319 amazing rookie year and then all of a sudden, because 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.560 of injuries, again, his game kind of changes and you're 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:13.600 not You're left to not seeing all that from him anymore. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:15.520 Like it just hasn't happened. I feel like his game 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.679 has to been declining since when he should really be 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:22.000 trending upwards, and it's just it's just not but this 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.560 kind of signing, it's fine. I'm not. I'm neutral right now. 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.160 I'm just like if money wise, you know, it's like, okay, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:31.800 what if he what if there's a guy out there 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.280 that was you know, he's played three or four years 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.680 and he's made a Pro Bowl, and you know he's 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.439 a second round pick and he's out there and he's 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.560 posting pictures on the Instagram of his nu chiseled body. 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:48.600 Would you sign him? You know? Dyalen Smith? Oh, Jalen, 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.800 I'm about Wagner. Yeah, Like I said, second round pick, 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.319 I was thinking Wagner. I was like, he's been to 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.880 more than a Pro Bowl. Those you follow him on 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:02.079 Instagram just checking him out, his body. I've seen it. 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.360 I've seen a lot of people talking about it, like, look, really, 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.920 I haven't even I've not seen a single Pete person 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.240 tweet about that. I mean, I thought he was still 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.520 under contract. I did too, but I didn't. All the 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.079 comments said signed this guy, signed this guy. I don't know, 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.839 not not all the comments. Some of the comments. Some 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:23.600 of them were like swipe, Cliff swipe. You shouldn't know 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.840 what that is. I just think, oh, sorry, I mean, 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.120 I'm looking at it. I mean, and and again, none 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.200 of these names are like light in the world on fire. 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.800 I don't they're not getting Bobby Wagner. I'm sorry to 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.640 those of y'all that think that's going to happen unless 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.520 he brings his price way down. Um agents a problem. 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.280 Gerard Davis, the former first round pick who was with 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:47.920 the Lions. Rashaun Evans, another former first round pick. Yeah, 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:53.480 just keep signing these disappointing first round picks. That's winning strategy. Well, 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:55.840 but you know, with a guy like Quinn, I don't 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.360 mind those kind of picks, because that's where you might 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.320 be able to find a guy. Again. If you're take 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.360 the strategy, which I don't know if I love the strategy, 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.560 but if you're taking the strategy we're going low budget, 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.040 then you'd rather take a shot on somebody that maybe 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.640 at some point someone thought could play. I'm not going 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.440 I'm not. If you're looking for over the top optimism, 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.000 you're not going to get it here. But it is 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:17.400 a strategy that has paid off more than once. I mean, 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.600 Rulando mcclan comes to mind, got some great production out 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.080 of him for a short time. I know there have 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:27.120 been more. I'm drawing him playing Colombo a you're talking 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.600 about just in general or a lightbacker. No, just like 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:34.160 failed high picks that came here and kind of resuscitated themselves. Yeah, 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.440 there's there's more, but you get my point. Yeah. Absolutely. 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:38.960 Now let me ask you guys this question. Do you 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.640 think at all that Leonard Davis we get to Yeah, 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.440 we get to the middle of this season, and because 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.800 my personal opinion is I think by middle of this season, 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.920 jabrol Cox, if not earlier, jabrol Cox is going to 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.960 be your starter with Mica. You guys see the same thing. 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:54.840 Or do you think that this in any way affects 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.880 that them resigning Latin for this year, for this year 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.080 of one year? I mean, I really hope. So I 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.960 have high hopes for what Jabril Cox can be. But 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.840 we didn't. I mean, we taught if you go back 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:08.560 to last train camp or like it's gonna be a 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.080 four to a round pick, you can't get any snaps. 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:11.800 What the hell is going on? We just we don't 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.080 know that much about him. We know the potential he's 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:18.160 His skill set is fantastic for the modern day NFL 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.520 in the sense that he's good in coverage. He's athletic, 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:26.680 he moves much quicker than your average linebacker. Yeah, I mean, 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.320 I hope that he can grab a starting job, but 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.760 I'm not ready to just give it to him, especially 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.120 he's not done with his ACL rehab as far as 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.360 I'm aware, what do we expect him back to anything. 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.040 I'm not falling into that trap anymore, and I'm not 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:41.760 trying to sit on the fence. But so, I mean, 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:45.760 he injured it week six, which it's an eight month recovery. 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:49.120 You would think that's plenty of time. Blake Jarwin wasn't 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.800 one hundred percent ready for training camp after getting hurt 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.600 in week one. Meanwhile, Demante Casey, who tears as achilles 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.120 in like week five, is ready for the entire offseason program. 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.080 It's there's no, it's not a boiler plate answer, but 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.200 tearing your ACL in week six should give you a 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.119 wonderful chance to be ready for training camp in general. 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.120 All right, um, let's go on and talk real quick 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.760 about the latest signing. Carlos Watkins. He was just signed, 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:17.000 I guess today, or at least that's the report that 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.720 he's been signed defensive tackle, which to me is a 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:23.000 kind of an unheralded, pretty good signing for the Cowboys. 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:24.480 What do you got thoughts on this? Yeah, I think 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.320 if you realize that it's you know, and then it 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.320 goes to the Gifford thing too. I mean, if you 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.840 looked at the big board of one to ninety players 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.159 and realize how everything goes, I mean, those slots have 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:37.919 to be filled, and that's what it is. I mean, 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.359 they're not all gonna be. Oh, this guy is not 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.399 gonna be a pro bowler, Carlos Watkins, but he's but 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.440 you know, you need five or six defensive tackles that 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.320 you trust, and he's one of them in it and 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.359 he's probably the most trustworthy of that group. Yeah. I 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:53.600 thought I thought he was a good signing last year, 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:55.600 and I don't know, exactly what the money is so 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.200 this year, but I'm sure it's sure, it's not crazy, 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:01.040 and you know, I think it's It's one of those 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.600 guys that's good to have because you don't as good 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:09.119 as we think Gallamore can be and Tristan Hill maybe 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.840 and Osa they're still young and they haven't always been 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.479 reliable because they haven't been available. And I one thing 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.680 Carlos Watkins probably gives you. He's probably the third best 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.480 signing last year behind Jern Curse and Brian Anger. I 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.040 thought he was he was a useful member of this team. 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.480 I don't know the money, but like Nick said, I 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.760 guarantee you it's not huge. I would pencil him in 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.680 as you're starting one teak one technique right now, as 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:37.399 long as they don't do something crazy like draft Jordan Davis, 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:42.399 which would be fun. But yeah, no, I pencil him 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:46.040 asn't damn it. I can't talk. Pencil him in as 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.200 a starter, and I feel fine about that. Yeah, I 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.800 like that move. Yeah, very solid guy. And this is 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:56.040 gonna be terrible, But I kind of really forgotten a 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.960 little bit about him in free agency now until this 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.520 weekend and then today, and you're like oh yeah, wait, 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.480 wait a minute, Yes, that's a good guy to have back. So, yes, 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:09.160 he was someone that I was forgetting about, but very 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.480 very happy that he's back. Solid guy for you guys. 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:13.080 That's also the kind of player he is, Like I 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:14.960 remember there have been a number of times that I've 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.960 been watching games and somebody makes a play and I'm like, 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.960 who is that, And I'm like, Oh, that's that's Walkings. Yeah, 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:22.639 you know, he's that kind of player, Like he just 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.960 he contends to just be in the mix and makes 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.720 a play. Like I think he's a not always a 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:29.320 bad thing, No, it's not. He's I think he's a 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.640 very solid player for them and doesn't get that same 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.240 level of credit that a lot of people get, But 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.239 I think he's a very solid signing for them. Had 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.560 thirty two tackles last year as a guy that like 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:42.360 isn't known for his pass rush ability. He had seventy 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.280 four and four years in Houston, thirty two last year. Yeah, 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.879 so I think you know this, this scheme works for 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.960 what he does clearly and went to the house he did. Yeah, 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.560 scored one of the twenty two to score a touchdown. Yeah, 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:55.480 one of the few times that didn't that happen in 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:57.240 the game we were on the sideline there then, Yeah, 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.000 one of the first times we were on the sideline 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.400 this year. Yeah, during the at the end of the game. Um, yeah, 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:09.919 Brian Anger punter back. We'll see pretty Yeah. I did 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.840 put that out there. Nick put that out there, though, 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.160 I credit to you. It's a good stat Yeah. Yeah, 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.679 he doesn't. He doesn't do well in these first year. 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:21.800 This is the third time now he's had a three 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:24.200 year deal and the first year after he gets paid 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.640 it doesn't go so well. So let's that's why he's 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:29.119 been cut. He I don't think he's made it to 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.080 the second year of the of those deals. But I've 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:33.840 said it a bunch of times. We'll say it again. 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:37.480 He knows the value of playing with with um, you 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.719 know John Fossil and his scheme. His scheme is very 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:43.920