1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Here we go at Tour two. We're in Chicago World 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: Baseball Classic. It's been great, a lot of things going on, 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on. I know why you 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: think I pick on Lebron. I had been the biggest 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Lebron advocate for twenty years. But you have to be 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: honest about is that when Luca Dontage and Austin Reeves 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: play together without Lebron, they're nine to two and they 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 1: are clearly better defensively, and Luca and Austin aren't even 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: good defenders. You just have to be honest about this stuff. 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: You got new owners. They're looking at all this data. 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: They're bringing in a new fresh set of eyes, which 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: the Lakers need. The other story is this Malik Willis 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: so people are freaking out. Well, it's only got six starts, 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: number one, how many stars do you need to know 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: that Justin Herbert was good or Joe Burrow. I've told 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: the story. I remember Cam Newton's first start in the NFL, 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: and I wasn't a big Cam Newton fan, but I 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: think they played Arizona. He made one throw up the 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: left sideline and I'm like, Okay, that's going to work. 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: I remember Matt Ryan the first time I watched Matt Ryan. 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: I think again, fuzzy memory, rookie year, Matt Ryan's playing 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: the Bears. He makes a throw up the left sideline. 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, Yep, that works. I watched Malik Willis against 31 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: Baltimore eighteen to twenty one, no turnovers, three total touchdowns, 32 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: great touch I watched them against the Bears. I'm watching 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: them against the Ravens. Every time I watched him, I'm like, 34 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: athletic smart, makes good decisions, and don't forget a couple 35 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: of weeks. You know John Eric Sullivan, the new GM 36 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: of the Dolphins, who is in Green Bay with Malik 37 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: Willis kind of foreshadowing it. Just listen to the quality 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: of human being they're getting at quarterback. 39 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: Any team that is potentially in a quarterback situa where 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: a needy quarterback situation. If they tell you they're not 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: talking about Malik Willis, that would be a lie. 42 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: Very happy for Malik. 43 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: On a personal level, the situation that he's put himself in. 44 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: Malik's a very very good kid. He's it's a testament 45 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: to him and how he played and the opportunities that 46 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 3: he got a lot of, like for the human being, 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: He's a great kid. 48 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: Yeah. Not everybody's journey is linear. This stuff is bumpy. 49 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold Baker Mayfield. I think he's really talented and 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: people say, oh, he's like two ways undersize totally different players. 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: One is hyper athletic, one has a much better arm, 52 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: one doesn't have an injury history. They're not the same player. Yeah, 53 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: that was I right about the Cam Newton first start 54 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: with it against Arizona. He had four hundred and twenty totally. 55 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: I watched that game and I'm like, I'm not even 56 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: the Cam Newton guy. I'm like, that's what a franchise 57 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: quarterback looks like. You don't need that many starts, you 58 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: don't need that many moments. That justin Herbert when the 59 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: team doctor pierced some was at the lung of Tyrod 60 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: Taylor and they insert Justin Herbert against Steve Spagnolan Kansas City, 61 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: and you're watching this big, strong kid. Everybody say he's 62 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: a little stiff at Oregon, and after about two series, 63 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, he's a house with a huge arm that moves. Well, 64 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: that's a franchise quarterback. I feel the same way with 65 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: Malie Wilson. I don't know the level of franchise quarterback. 66 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: That's what a franchise quarterback looks like. And now we 67 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: know he's a great kid. Diana Russini is joining us 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: the athletic Senior NFL Insider. She won the day yesterday. 69 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: She was crushing he was crushing everybody. And I see 70 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: now and you're a little Twitter your avatars, you talking 71 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: to Jerry Jones and prodding him for information. You are 72 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: all dialed in. Okay. I want to start with Malie 73 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: because I think when when Green Bay guys go to 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: Miami and they both are like, that's the guy to sign, 75 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: that's the tell. So was there a market beyond Miami? 76 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: Well, for yes, there was. The Malie Willis's agent was 77 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 4: doing a really good job of sort of gauging the interest, 78 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: and there was there was a lot for him. He 79 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 4: chose Miami. That was his call, his decision. He wanted 80 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 4: to be with Jeff Hafley. He enjoyed his time with 81 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: him in Green Bay, and I think he was also 82 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 4: being advised, even by other people outside his agency, to 83 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: go to Miami, to be there and to have success. 84 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 4: He could live a good life there, of course in 85 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: South Beach, and he's going to get a legit opportunity 86 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 4: and chance to be the franchise quarterback that you're talking of. 87 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: I'm glad that you're highlighting the character because even coming 88 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 4: out that was that was something that was obviously at 89 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 4: the top of the chart when you talked about who 90 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: Malik was as a man. And Colin, You've met tons 91 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 4: of athletes in your career. And when I was at ESPN, 92 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: I always had to go to these rookie camps and 93 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: I remember I got sent down to Nashville and it 94 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: was the year that the Titans had taken Malik and 95 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: I had a photographer, an audio guy, and someone else 96 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 4: holding the mic, so like three guys in my crew, 97 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: which was great, and so I go up to Malik 98 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 4: and I'm like, Hey, how you doing. I'm Diana Rassini 99 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 4: from ESPN. And he goes nice, he shook my hand. 100 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: He went right over to my crew and just shook 101 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 4: each of their hands and asked them what they did, 102 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 4: how long they'd been working there. And meanwhile, like the 103 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: Titans PR guy standing there like, hey, we only got 104 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 4: like five minutes. We're not doing a whole introductory thing. 105 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: And I share that story just a little insight into 106 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 4: the type of. 107 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 5: Man he is. 108 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 4: You just I do this all the time. You don't 109 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 4: get that a lot. Nobody's ever really asking about the 110 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: people behind the scenes. So that always stood out. So 111 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 4: when he was starting to have success, I will say 112 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: that jumped out at me only because I wasn't certain 113 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 4: I was sure he was really the guy, and we 114 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: saw such a limited amount of him until obviously in 115 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: that last year he was in Green Bay and Matt Lafleur, obviously, 116 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 4: I think we all can can give him his props. 117 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 4: He runs a phenomenal offense, and I think he got 118 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 4: the most out of Malik and really giving him an 119 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 4: opportunity and a talent that we hadn't really seen when 120 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 4: he was in Tennessee. So I think for Miami this 121 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: is a win. But he was certainly a quarterback that 122 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 4: teams that are in the quarterback market right now, teams who, 123 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: by the way, can get cheap quarterbacks a lot on 124 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 4: this you know, veteran minimal deal. They were still flirting 125 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 4: with him as well. So he lands in Miami and 126 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: the quarterback carousel is still swinging. 127 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: Here, Collins, what's going on with Kyler Murray? 128 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: All right? So Kyler Murray, it makes all the sense 129 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 4: of the world that Minnesota would be where he lands. Well, 130 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 4: let me prep before even say that. Everyone wants to 131 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: play in Minnesota. Okay, So that's kind of like everyone 132 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 4: knows that, all the agents chat about, all the players 133 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: talk about it. That is where they want to be 134 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: because we've seen the second chance quarterbacks have these rebirths 135 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 4: with Kevin O'Donnell, right, like, we've seen it. And you 136 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 4: get paid, right, you go play for Kevin, you win, 137 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: you look good, you go to see out of you 138 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: when a Super Bowl. Your name Sam Donalds. So you've 139 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: got a guy like Kyla Murray. And I do think 140 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: this is really interesting. I've been making a lot of 141 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 4: calls the last twenty four hours just to try to 142 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 4: get an idea and separate what I think we have 143 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: been talking about and perhaps have heard through the grapevine 144 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: versus reality? Who is he? Is Kyler really the guy 145 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: that's up late gaming and not study and not into football. 146 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: And I have to tell you from talking to players 147 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: that played with him, talking to coaches that are interested 148 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 4: in him over the last twenty four hours, everyone's doing 149 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: their own homework, it appears that he's still really passionate 150 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: about football. He is competitive, and I do think we 151 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: forget he was the number one overall pick. He is 152 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: a Heisman Trophy winner. And when we're talking about the 153 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 4: second chance quarterback spot, I mean, what better formula here 154 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: then for Kyler Murray to go into Minnesota where I 155 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: think Kevin O'Connell could probably do wonders. 156 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: So listen. I tried to be optimistic glass half full 157 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: calling on the draft and free agency. That said, there 158 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: are moves that I question. The Niners are officially the 159 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: oldest team in the league in a division with the Seahawks, 160 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: and the Rams are young, athletic, twitchy, fast, and the 161 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: Niners are now the oldest team. They signed Mike Evans 162 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: who was hurt last year. Love him, red Zone, unbelievable, 163 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: classy guy. I Kittles old McCaffrey's older Trent Williams, Fred 164 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: Warner Off an injury, Bose Off an injury. Probably they've 165 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: they've taken some big swings at wide receiver. I can 166 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: you explain the move? Why? 167 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 4: First of all, where are you going? Where are you 168 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 4: going to get the type of receiver you're talking about? Okay, 169 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 4: let's just unlike the perfect day. Okay, go try to 170 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: get aj Brown from Philadelphia. They don't have that ability. 171 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 4: You don't have the money to do that either. So 172 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: I think from Kyle Shanahan's perspective on this, and they 173 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: were fishing around the market for receivers here for a bit, 174 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: I think the Mike Evans situation made sense. It's not 175 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 4: costing that much money. It's roughly a year deal for 176 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 4: fifteen to sixteen million, right. And by the way, how 177 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 4: about Mike Evans walking away from Tampa Bay with a 178 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 4: lot more money on the table. That also tells you 179 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 4: where he's at in his career. He is not trying 180 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 4: to just go off in the sunset. He is trying 181 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: to win a Super Bowl. And if your guy like 182 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: Mike Evans, who wants to be used, and you look 183 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: at his production and his targets. Over the last few seasons, 184 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 4: they've gone down. They've lost seven out of the last 185 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 4: nine games of the year. You saw the frustration boiling up. 186 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 4: Now with all that and knowing all that, and we 187 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: all know it, I was surprised he still did it, 188 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 4: you know, because I really just thought, you know, this 189 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 4: is a guy that's only been in Tampa, this is 190 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 4: where he wants to be. Baker and him have a 191 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: great relationship. But I think for him this is he 192 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: looks over what the Rams did with Stafford and Devonte Adams, 193 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: and I think that was the blueprint in his mind this. 194 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: I want to go to a place where the coach 195 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 4: is going to figure out a way to make me 196 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: the centerpiece or maybe at least a big part of 197 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 4: what I want to do. And I think for the 198 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: forty nine ers, they think that Mike Evin certainly still 199 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 4: has enough and it's not costing them that much. 200 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you a player. I feel bad for 201 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Now he's got Max Crosby in his division, 202 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, TJ. Watt, and Trey Hendrickson Walks. Trey's good player. 203 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Trey Well, I mean, I think Max Crosby outside of 204 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett's my favorite rush end in the league. But 205 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson, what's the story on him? Where's he gonna land? 206 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? 207 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 4: Right, the thirty five sacks so last two seasons, All 208 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 4: Pro Player, runner up for Defensive Player of the Year 209 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: two seasons ago. I think we forget a little bit, 210 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: and I think maybe teams are because last year he 211 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: was injured, right, and he only appeared in seven games, 212 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 4: and it got a little mucky with his contract last year. 213 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 4: It wasn't a good situation. And you can't really blame 214 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: them for that. Now that being said, Colin, teams have 215 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 4: so much information on players aging, Like That's something I've 216 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: been discovering over the last few days going through free 217 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 4: agency on why certain teams are are jumping in which 218 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 4: kind of connects you to the ky hoping with Mike, 219 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 4: Like you're willing to go for an older receiver, But 220 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: why aren't teams going for a pass rusher at thirty 221 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 4: two years old? Right? And I do think Trey is 222 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 4: in a position right now that's tough because I can 223 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 4: tell you I've talked to a lot of teams in 224 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: the last three days about who's in on Trey and 225 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 4: everyone's interested. I think everyone can establish that they that 226 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 4: they that they would want a player like Trey. They 227 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 4: just don't want to pay a number that starts with three. 228 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 4: They want it to be in the twos. And I 229 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 4: think that's where the rub is right now, and I 230 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 4: think Trey really wants to sit here and wait for 231 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 4: that market to get there. I just don't know if 232 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 4: it is. I think we're at that point of free 233 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: agency where the price is going to be the price, 234 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 4: and he may just have to take it. Look, he 235 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: can choose to wait some more time here and see 236 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: if a team gets desperate if they're not able to 237 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: get another pass rusher. Obviously, he sees Jalen for the 238 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: let's go get that thirty million from Carolina. He thinks 239 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 4: he can do it. And again, not a knock on Trey, 240 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: but I do think teams are going You're thirty two 241 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 4: years old, you know. Dallas they were in on Trey 242 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 4: before they made that trade for Rashad Gary with the 243 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers, They're not paying that price. They don't 244 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 4: need to. They can get a younger guy who's been 245 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: in the system, who's got teammates from Green Bay they already. 246 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 5: So Look, I. 247 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: Still think the Bills, the Colts, Tampa Bay, I think 248 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: they're all still kind of watching to see and perhaps 249 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 4: we could get some more teams jumping in if they 250 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 4: hear that the price is going down. 251 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: Okay, Eagles have lost three defensive starters. Jalen Phillips is 252 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: a real loss. He gave them a pass rush they 253 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: didn't have before he landed there. Howie Roseman either picked 254 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: a weird time to go on vacation or they've got 255 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: something brewing. What's going on in Philadelphia? 256 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, yesterday was like the day of goodbye for them. 257 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: It was like but we all knew that. Like, I 258 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: think Howie had been pretty transparent, like, look, I dreft, well, 259 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 4: I can't keep everybody, you know, I can't hold on 260 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 4: to all my free agents because they do have so 261 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 4: many players to pay. But remember, you've got the AJ 262 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 4: Brown situation just sort of hanging over them right now 263 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 4: as we try to figure out what they're going to 264 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 4: do there. Right Obviously, it seems that the New England 265 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 4: Patriots are the team that's in on them the most. 266 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 4: The Rams have been in and out a little bit 267 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: poking on it. 268 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: The Chargers. 269 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: We're poking a little bit, but I think we're at 270 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 4: a point now where until they can sort out what 271 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 4: they're going to do with aj Brown, I do think 272 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 4: it's hard for how We to make a lot of 273 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 4: these moves. Remember this is a general manager who also 274 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 4: doesn't my mind making trades later in the year. So 275 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 4: while it's not very entertaining if you're an Eagles fan 276 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 4: right now, I think they should just trust in the 277 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: fact that how We always kind of sorts this out. 278 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 4: Now that being said, they're still coming the market. They're 279 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 4: still looking for a pass rusher. You know, You've got 280 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: a few players available that I know that they've made 281 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: some calls on. So I'm not in paw mode about 282 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: where the Philadelphia Eagles are in terms of acquiring talent. 283 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: My kind of with the Philadelphia Eagles is dealing with 284 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 4: the talent that they have. Are they going to be 285 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 4: able to make all of this work this season? Because 286 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 4: I do think there is a lot of pressure there 287 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 4: for this to improve after how we saw them the 288 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: exit the playoff last year. 289 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk Chiefs. So they're going to sign Travis Kelce, 290 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: which feels like Gronk and Brady and Tampa. Kenneth Walker 291 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: I like, but he gets dinged up. He had a 292 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: great playoff run. They don't have a ton of picks. 293 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: They need a back. It's a bad running back draft. 294 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: I think they were a bit trapped. They've missed on 295 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: just enough wide receiver draft picks that they're kind of 296 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: trapped a little bit. They feel the Niners and the 297 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: Chiefs feel like they're getting a little old. They're keeping 298 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: the band back together, but they're in divisions with really deep, young, 299 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: talented rosters, the Broncos, the Chargers, Seahawks, Rams. 300 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: I mean, it's gotten better now. Travis Kelsey was just 301 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: talking about it, how their division it's not what it 302 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: was a few years ago. You know, we just didn't 303 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 4: count that. Now they're in. It's certainly picked up and 304 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: obviously getting the return of Travis. He's not twenty five anymore. 305 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: We know what Travis Kelsey is. But there are teams 306 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 4: who still were looking at that film knowing he was 307 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: hitting free agency, going, look, he still has the smart 308 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 4: and ability, you know. And our good friend Nick Wright 309 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 4: was giving me a hard time. I think because as 310 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: a Kansas City fan, I think he was just mortified 311 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 4: at the thought that Travis Kelsey would poke around the 312 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 4: market to see if perhaps there was another team they did. 313 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: They talked to other teams just to see what was 314 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 4: out there. And why wouldn't you, right, because you got 315 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: to figure out, Hey, let's just say the New York Giants, 316 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 4: the Tennessee Titans, you know, the Cleveland Browns, teams that 317 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: he would have connections to from a personal standpoint, right, 318 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: if they're going to give him a boatload, I don't know, 319 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 4: maybe that gets his price up in Kansas City. He 320 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 4: can get a little bit more money, or maybe he 321 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: makes some big decision decides to go somewhere else. Either way, 322 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 4: we know what he did. This All signs pointed him 323 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: to him going back to Kansas City. That being said, 324 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: they make a big investment in a running back, right, 325 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: and I think this is a team that had relied 326 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: on such a good run game for so long that 327 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 4: this is sort of the way for them to resurge, 328 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 4: go back to the way they were winning games. I 329 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: don't know if they hadn't spend so much money. I'm 330 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: not a GM. It seemed like a very pricey addition 331 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: for running back, but that's obviously been an area that 332 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: they know has been a problem. They still have so 333 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: many other spots got to fill. So yes, I'm with 334 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: you on the older, but it's obvious they're trying to 335 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 4: make more splashy moves to win next year, whereas you know, 336 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: you see some other teams like the Vegas Raiders. To me, 337 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 4: they're making amazing moves with the money and and the 338 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 4: options that they have, but they don't seem like they're 339 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: a team going all in for the super Bowl next year. 340 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 4: It's too hard. They're just trying to rebuild this thing 341 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 4: the right way. And you know, and I do think 342 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 4: John Spytech there and Tom Brady are doing a nice job. 343 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: Okay, by the way, do you want to break any 344 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: news on the show? Is your phone flying going on? 345 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 4: Trying to be respectful because I enjoy coming on here. 346 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 4: I'm checking in text right now because I'm waiting for 347 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 4: a tree. It has not happened yet, But I wish 348 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 4: I had like a little camera on my desk that 349 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 4: I could just like call you in. I guess I could. 350 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 4: I have a camera on by you just keep me in 351 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: the quarter of your show for two hours and I'll 352 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 4: just pop in when I got something for you. How 353 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 4: if you think it's boring, you move on. If you 354 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 4: think it's interesting, we do it. 355 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: You know, I am all for more Diana Russini and 356 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: the Hurt. I am all for you crushed it yesterday. Congrats, 357 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: we'll talk again, and thank you for stopping by. 358 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 4: It's fun. I love this stuff. Thanks for having me. 359 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, she did a great job yesterday. I'm telling you 360 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: the Raiders, it's unbelievable. And I got to give it. 361 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Poles the GM of the Bears, so he made 362 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: that stealer move, chaste Claypool move. I was like, eh, 363 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: but you know, wide receivers can be flaky and it 364 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: didn't work out. But it is also true that there 365 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: is no school for general managers. You can't major in 366 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: NFL GM in college. So a lot of these young 367 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: guys like Ryan Poles the Bears GM, they get jobs. 368 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: You're learning on the job. There's a big gap between 369 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: being like Scout Regional Scout director of Scout GM. What huh? 370 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: You have big decisions to make. So I thought Ryan 371 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: Pole's first year, I was like, he's a kid. I 372 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: think Ryan Poles had a great two years and I 373 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: like their defensive moves they've made and Ryan Pole's a 374 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: young guy from Kansas City. But it's you know, coaching 375 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: is different. You're a position coach, then you're a coordinator. 376 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you go to college route and then you become 377 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: a coordinator at a different place, and then you get 378 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: the head coaching job and you could have sixteen years 379 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: in coaching. It's there's a big difference to me. Like 380 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: Scout Regional Scout, you're the GM. It's hard and you 381 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: know a lot of these moves that are made. The 382 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: first time you make them, it's white knuckle time. You 383 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: don't know how it's gonna work out. But I gotta 384 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: tell you, last year, I thought they cleaned up. I 385 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: thought the DJ Moore move was really really smart, and 386 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: I like what they're doing now. Some jobs you got 387 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: to learn on the job. 388 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: One more Heard. 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Michael 409 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: Pittman to the Steelers is interesting because I've said I 410 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: think I said last hour that I think Pittman's a 411 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: little bit of a bat signal to Aaron Rodgers, which 412 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: is Aaron and Tom Brady have never loved young receiver 413 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 1: like they want to win. 414 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: Now. 415 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: Aaron's not going to be a mentor He's fine with it. 416 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: He was great with Jordan Love and Green Bay. But 417 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: Aaron wants if he's going to come back, he wants 418 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: guys that are ready to perform. I don't want to 419 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: teach him football. And you know, Michael Pittman's a tough 420 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: His dad was a tough player running back in the 421 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: NFL with Tampa. Pittman's smart, he's tough, dk Metcalf, these 422 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: are big Washington's coming back off the injury, and Aaron 423 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: made the Steelers smarter and better in the red zone 424 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: and fewer turnovers, fewer mistakes. So I think Michael Pittman 425 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: was a bit of a Hey, if you come back, 426 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: you know we've added somebody that day one can be 427 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: a seventy five cash guy for you. Now you could say, well, 428 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman's his numbers have regressed, but you got to 429 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: remember Alec Pierce took away some of those catches the 430 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: tight end at a Penn State with a stud He 431 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: took away some of those catches. And they also had 432 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: quarterback issues when Daniel Jones got hurt. So you can 433 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: look at Michael Pittman going to the Steelers from the 434 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: Colts and say numbers are dipping, and it's not an excuse. 435 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: I would say between the growth of their offensive weapons 436 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: around him and their quarterback mess at the end of 437 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: the year, that can explain some of it. So I 438 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: like Pittman to the Steelers, and I think it's a 439 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: bit of a Hey, Aaron, the biggest weakness that team 440 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: had last year too much money on defense and they 441 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: didn't have a number two wide receiver. Here's Jmack with 442 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: the news. 443 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 5: No, no turn on the news. 444 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: This is the herd line news. 445 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 5: There was a big deal over the weekend. 446 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 7: Trent McDuffie leaves the Chiefs for the Rams. 447 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 5: That was a huge one. 448 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 7: And then mcduffee signed a four year, one hundred and 449 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 7: twenty four million dollar extension, highest paid cornerback in NFL history. 450 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 7: He can play outside, he can play in. 451 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: The slality guy. He is a I mean, he's a 452 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: quality guy. They have basically said, what's interesting about this, Jmack. 453 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: In about a year or two, they're going to have 454 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: to start paying a lot of their defensive players and 455 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: they've mostly spent their money on the offensive side. So 456 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 1: for them, they've never really viewed corner They don't draft 457 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: corners high they just don't. They want guys that are 458 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: in the league. And so to me, this is a 459 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: it's a very interesting. First of all, it solves their 460 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: number one liability by a mile. And I'm a little 461 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,239 Speaker 1: surprised Kansas City let him go. I don't think they 462 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: had a choice because they've let some corners go. But 463 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: for the Rams to go all in on mcduffy tells 464 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: you the kind of guy he is. They've done that. 465 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: He played with the Huskies in Seattle. I think he's 466 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: a West Coast kid, so he's coming back home and 467 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: I think he's probably real happy. 468 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 5: Just a clutch player, makes plays. 469 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 7: I mean, you can see with some punch punches out 470 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 7: there past defenses. So it's interesting the Chiefs, Brett Vich, 471 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 7: your guy, for whatever reason, does not want to give 472 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 7: cornerbacks their second contract. Remember they moved off Tarvaria's Ward 473 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 7: Lagerius sneeded now McDuffie, now Watson, the other cornerback they 474 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 7: just lost also to the Rams. I guess he's thinking, 475 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 7: in my system, I can coach them up, but after 476 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 7: that we're. 477 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 5: Not paying them. And you said the Rams are the 478 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 5: opposite right that. 479 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 7: They want experienced quarnerbacks. Look what happened last year when 480 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 7: they tried to do it on the cheap Forbes is 481 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 7: barbecue chicken, and they just couldn't guard anybody. 482 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 5: So it's interesting seeing how the teams do it differently. 483 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you look at a prime example, 484 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: if you look at free agency. What you're trying to 485 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: do with free agency is find a veteran that plugs 486 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: a hole. The Ravens have lost more fourth quarter leads 487 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 1: than anybody in the NFL last five years. So they 488 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: go get Max Crosby. They go get their closer, like 489 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: we want a consistent edge rusher. The one thing people 490 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: forget about Max Crosby, he's been playing for the Raiders. 491 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: The Raiders trail in the fourth quarter. The Ravens lead 492 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, So Max Crosby is going to 493 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: have twelve fourth quarter snaps probably on average every week 494 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: with a chance to get a sack. With the Raiders. 495 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: They trail. Teams are running the ball underneath stuff right, 496 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: they're trying to kill the and get the game over. 497 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: In Baltimore, teams are playing catchup. Also, Kenneth Walker chiefs 498 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: Older dinged up. They don't have any juice in the backfield, 499 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: so when you look at Trent McDuffie, what the Rams 500 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: are saying is unless ween Land with our first pick, 501 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: the LSU corner, there's nobody on the market close to this. 502 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's one corner in this draft 503 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: that's in McDuffie's class, the LSU. 504 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 5: Cor unless you kid, yeah yeah. 505 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: Outside of that, there's nobody close to McDuffie in. 506 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 7: The So it's interesting. Chris Shula's defense for the Rams. 507 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 7: Really intelligent. Guy did some smart things last year. Remember 508 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 7: how they bottled up Caleb Williams inside the ten yard 509 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 7: line in that playoff game. Caleb couldn't do anything. He 510 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 7: moves his chest pieces around. He just got another one 511 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 7: in McDuffie. He has Lake and now he adds McDuffie Collins. 512 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 7: I'm just I think the Rams are like in a 513 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 7: tier by themselves in the NFC. That's how good that rock. 514 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: The Seahawks have also had. They haven't lost great players, 515 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: They've lost good players end of the offensive coordinator. 516 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 5: Don't forget about that. 517 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I like Kenneth Walker, but it 518 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: should be noted that playoff run was fantastic. But Kenneth 519 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: Walker in his Seattle career. Two things are true, very 520 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: good after contact. He's a bully and he got dinged 521 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: up a lot, but. 522 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 7: He couldn't block me coming off the edge. If we're 523 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 7: being honest, and let's be real, I looked at his numbers, Colin, 524 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 7: I crunched him last night. So last season, remember, over 525 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 7: three hundred touches is a lot. You get to three 526 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 7: fifty three seventy, it's bad last year. Kenneth Walker three 527 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 7: hundred and twenty six touches, most in his career, and 528 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 7: as you just said, gets dinged up. I would just 529 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 7: a little buyer beware there. All right, let's move on 530 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 7: to the Indianapolis Colts weird saga, Colin, this is an 531 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 7: interesting one. So Alec Pierce, as you alluded to earlier, 532 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 7: got a huge contract eighty four million dollars guaranteed. 533 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah for this guy. 534 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 7: And again he had a great season, but let's be specific, 535 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 7: he had a great half season, and then he didn't 536 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 7: do as well when the quarterback play wasn't Daniel Jones. 537 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 7: Daniel Jones are could be out for half the season. Now, 538 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 7: I was digging into some of these Indianapolis reports. So 539 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 7: the reason that they had to pay Pierce and dump 540 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 7: Pittman is because of Daniel Jones. Colin, I'm sure you 541 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 7: saw this. Daniel Jones was negotiating and they thought they 542 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 7: could get him on the cheap, like a hometown discount, 543 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 7: three years, one hundred million. Daniel Jones said, I want 544 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 7: fifty million a year and they said no way, so 545 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 7: they had to transition tag him. So now you can't 546 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 7: tag Pierce. So it was a disaster. I'm just like 547 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 7: colch fans, I know they're excited. A we got Pierce back, 548 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 7: losing Pittman over the middle, and some of these numbers 549 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 7: on yards per route run for Pierce really good against 550 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 7: zone because he's just a zone buster down the field. 551 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 7: Deep against man not as good. And he won a 552 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 7: lot of contested catches last year. That's difficult to duplicate 553 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 7: year over year. So I don't love this contract. 554 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: No, I think you'll get too too much. But I 555 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: think he's a really good player. I think they're young 556 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: tight end Jonathan Taylor. I think they have some really 557 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: nice weapons. They were, yeah, let's be completely fair, before 558 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones got hurt, they were good. They went to 559 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: LA and they outplayed the Rams. If not for Mitchell 560 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: doing that goofy sideline act. They beat the Rams in LA. 561 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: So this this team, when Daniel Jones was upright, was 562 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: very good. 563 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 7: So our staff put together a full screen here. Sorry 564 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 7: in advanced Colts fans, Alex Biris has played four seasons. Yeah, 565 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 7: Pro Bowls zero, All Pros zero, fifty yard receiving seasons zero. 566 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 7: You're sensing a theme ten touchdown seasons, Colin. I don't know, man, 567 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 7: I know you're close to some guys in the Colts. 568 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 7: Ever since they made that Sauce Gardner trade, everything's just 569 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 7: kind of falling apart, like the Daniel Jones injury. I mean, 570 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 7: it's just they cratered. I don't know where are they 571 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 7: ranked them in the division right now? For me, you 572 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 7: got Texans, Jags, Colts, and Titans. 573 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: Third or fourth. Well, Liam Cohen and the Jags this 574 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: is just the first year of him implementing his culture, 575 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: so you would think Liann colem and the Jaggs would 576 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: get better. It's the second year coming up, and I 577 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: think the Texans defense and coaching is so good. 578 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 5: Texans aren't going anywhere. 579 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeh, yeah, that defense is the best in the league. 580 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: You turn the sound down, watch the Texans. They don't 581 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: look like anybody else, not even the Seahawks defense looks 582 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: like that. So yeah, I mean, listeners pass the daughters 583 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: take it over. So I think my take is it 584 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: does feel like the daughters have told Chris Ballard take swings. 585 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: He's gotten super He was always known as kind of 586 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: a conservative GM. He has gotten highly aggressive in the 587 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: last six months. 588 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 7: All right, Final story, conn is Trey Hendrickson. Mysteriously he's 589 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 7: considered on you look at all these free agent lists, 590 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 7: He's considered like one of the top five or six guys. 591 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 5: Where's the free agency? 592 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. 593 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 5: Well, that's the problem. 594 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 7: Apparently he and his agent went to market and were like, 595 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 7: we want thirty plus mill and everybody else is saying, yeah, 596 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 7: that's not happening. 597 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 5: You're over thirty years old, that's no shot. 598 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 7: And I got to be honest, some of the attitude 599 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 7: and issues that he had in Cincinnati, I'm sure that's wing. 600 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 5: Do you want to bring that into your locker room? 601 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 5: I don't know if entitled is the right word. 602 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: Know, if it's him or it's the Bengals. 603 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 5: Could be the Bengals, could be the Bengals. Maybe I'm wrong. 604 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 7: But I just I wonder if people are looking and 605 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 7: be like, Eh, do I need that? Do I want that? 606 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: Well, when I look at Trey Hendrickson, I look at 607 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: like a Buffalo. What is a team? This is what 608 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens did. The Ravens had in the last couple 609 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: of years. They were bottom of the league in fourth 610 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: quarter sacks. That's why they bring in Max Crosby. Hendrickson 611 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: works on a team that's going to be leading games late, Buffalo, 612 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: That's where he makes sense. The Chargers probably looked at 613 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: him and re signed Khalil Mack. I bet they looked 614 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: at him. 615 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 7: Yeah it's coming back for like eighteen or nineteen million 616 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 7: a year, right. 617 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, andrews way more than yeah. So, but I think 618 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: there's a place where he fits on a good team 619 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: with fourth quarter leads and he can be your closer. 620 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: I don't think he's Max Crosby. I don't think he's 621 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, but I do think. I mean, remember when 622 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: when the Bills had Josh Allen, they gave Von Miller 623 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: that huge deal, and their take was, Yeah, we're scoring 624 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: thirty a game, we're leading games late, we just need 625 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: a closer. By the way, that's why when Stafford was 626 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: with the Rams, mcvah and the Rams, they like Von Miller. 627 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: We're leading games late, So Trey Hendrickson fits on a 628 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: very good news for him. The teams most attracted are 629 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: probably high quality teams with late game leads. 630 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 7: Super Bowl contenders like your Chicago Bears. I remember you 631 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 7: wonted Crosby, Dad le. 632 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: Well, they've scaped some money on defense. I'm not sure 633 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: how much left they have. Okay, Jmack with the news. 634 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 635 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: Herd Line News. 636 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: For the record. Very quietly, the New York Giants, my 637 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: pick next year is the most improved team in the league. 638 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: Went out and found themselves a pretty good tight end 639 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: Via Ravens. I'm telling you New York Giants. I already 640 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: bought a couple jet skis on my winnings. I feel 641 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: really good about that. 642 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 643 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: and neon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 644 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 645 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 7: The World Baseball Classic continues as Team USA takes on 646 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 7: Italy in their final game of the group stage tonight 647 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 7: at nine pm. 648 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 5: Eastern Radio on FS one. 649 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: Now they beat USA beat Mexico last night. Here is 650 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: their manager Benji Gill saying, Oh yeah, I want to 651 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: face USA again. 652 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 8: I hope we play the US again. That would be awesome. 653 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 8: I would be a static to face them again. For one, 654 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 8: it's probably the championship, right, it's the championship in Miami. 655 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 8: In fact, you know what, I want to face them 656 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 8: more than don't want anything else in the world. How's that? 657 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 1: Well, heay to go, probably going to happen. So whenever 658 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: you have like free agency or a trade, we all, 659 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: and I'm guilty of this, you want to proclaim winners 660 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: and losers. Sometimes when you move off a big star, 661 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: it takes a year or two. I always said this 662 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: with Shaq and Kobe, it was the right move to 663 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: choose Kobe over Shack. The Lakers for a couple of 664 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: years were going to have to eat a dirt sandwich 665 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: because Shaq was going to d Wade and a Miami 666 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: team that was ready to win now. And then Kobe 667 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: eventually had to find Paal Gasol. For a year it 668 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: looked really ugly, But over time Kobe was more obsessed, 669 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: you know he was. He was going into his prime, 670 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 1: there were no injuries. It was the right move, but 671 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: you had to wait for a year or two for 672 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: it to unpack. And I said this when the Cowboys 673 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: moved off Micah. I said, green Bay is going to 674 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: win it for the first year. They're a good team. 675 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: He's gonna get a bunch of sacks. They're going to 676 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. And the Cowboys defense, which was 677 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: bad with Michaeh, will get worse. Just give it a year. Well, 678 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: now have you noticed what happened this week? Dallas did 679 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: another move with Green Bay. They got Rashawn Gary, so 680 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: he'll come off the edge. And then they got Quinn 681 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: Williams from the Jets and Kenny Clark from Green Bay. 682 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: So directly or indirectly, three defensive linemen the Cowboys did 683 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: not have and would not have if it assigned Micah. 684 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: So Gary, Quinn Williams, Kenny Clark is a better defensive 685 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: line than if you just paid Micah a fortune. And 686 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: when you throw in Demarvian Overshown at outside linebacker and edge, 687 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: that front is excellent. Now it is excellent. And my 688 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: guess is with their two first round picks, I would 689 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: not be shocked if they didn't go get two corners 690 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: because our offense doesn't. You don't worry about the offense. 691 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: Shottenheimert a good year, Dak's healthy, two receivers, old lines 692 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: getting better, already, a good run blocking line. They got 693 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: running back sealed off. So I could see Dallas going, hey, 694 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: we're just gonna go get two corners, and there's about 695 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: four in the first round, and they could get both 696 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: of them. So when they made the move on Micah, 697 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: the media reaction I got it was totally predictable. Green 698 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: Bay one cowboys or morons. I said, sometimes you make moves, 699 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: you get rid of stuff. Because what a rich people 700 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: want flexibility. Rich people can buy any asset they want, 701 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: some in a salary cap sport. If you're a billionaire, 702 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: what you don't have is flexibility. Jerry had so little 703 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 1: flexibility that two years ago they couldn't afford eight million 704 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 1: dollars to buy Derrick Henry, and they had no running 705 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: games and they couldn't make any moves. So moving Micah 706 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: gave them flexibility. Quentinn Williams, Sean Gary and first round 707 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: picks gives and by the way, they have two first 708 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: round picks. I could see Dallas because they already gave 709 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: out one of their two first round picks next year 710 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: to get Quentinn Williams. I could see Dallas with their 711 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 1: second pick or first pick moving down, pushing more draft 712 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: picks off into next year, or getting more this year flexibility. 713 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: So I like what they've done, Diana Russini, and the 714 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: opposite of dallas lack of flexibility reminds me of the 715 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: one move I don't know what I feel about it, 716 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: and that is Mike Evans to the forty nine ers. 717 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: So their roster is old, brittle and expensive, so they 718 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of flexibility. So I found it 719 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: a little bit curious, and they have overspent, in my 720 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: opinion at wide receiver for years, overdrafted and overspent. I 721 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: asked Diana Russini explain thirty year old Mike Evans on 722 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: an offense that already feels way too old. 723 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 4: I think from Kyle Shanahan's perspective on this, and they 724 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 4: were fishing around the market for receivers here for a bit, 725 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 4: I think the Mike Evans situation made sense. It's not 726 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 4: costing that much money. It's roughly a year deal for 727 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 4: fifteen to sixteen million. I think for him this is 728 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 4: he looks over what the Rams did with Stafford and 729 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 4: Devonte Adams, and I think that was the blueprint in 730 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 4: his mind this I want to go to a place 731 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 4: where the coach is going to figure out a way 732 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 4: to make me the centerpiece or maybe at least a 733 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 4: bit big part of what I want to do. 734 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: And what's interesting the one thing that j Mack and 735 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: I know you'll have an opinion on this, Mike Evans 736 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: could have made more money in Tampa. He bails on Baker, 737 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: he bails on the coach coaching staff. So Mike Evans 738 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: did he choose Kyle Shanahan here? Did he choose? Listen, 739 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make less money. By the way, Tampa is 740 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: in Florida, no state tax. California's thirteen and a half percent, 741 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: So you're taking less, You're going to an expensive state. 742 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: And that stuff matters to agents and players. It does. 743 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Mike's driven by money, but I'm 744 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: saying is Tampa's a nice place to live. Baker's a 745 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: more than capable quarterback. Do you find it interesting that 746 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: he goes and chooses Brock pretty in Kyle Shanahan across 747 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: three thousand miles away. Do you find that a little odd? 748 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 5: It was surprising. Now it's interesting. 749 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 7: On screen you see three for sixty mil, but the 750 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 7: guaranteed money is only sixteen point three million according to 751 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 7: one report. So, Colin, that's interesting. It's a one year deal. 752 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know how much Evans has looked at. 753 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: Me like he's ring hunting. He thinks this is the 754 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: best place to go win a ring next season. 755 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 5: Well, maybe he likes Shanahan a lot. 756 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 7: I mean, obviously, you know, Evans had a great run 757 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 7: with Tom Brady and now with Baker, they've pulled back. 758 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 7: They got passed by Carolina. I think Carolina wins that 759 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 7: division next year. By the way, they added two defensive stars. 760 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 7: The offense looks good. I think Carolina is the team 761 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 7: to beat there. So yeah, I don't hate Evans going 762 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 7: to the Niners. I just I don't know what they're 763 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 7: gonna be. 764 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:38,280 Speaker 5: Colin. 765 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 7: Did you see they have the most travel of any 766 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 7: team in NFL history next year? Yeah, and Trent Williams 767 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 7: is what's going on there? McCaffrey coming off a heavy 768 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 7: usage season, A Yuk's gone. Jennings looks like he's gone. 769 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 7: Can you tell me when George Kittle's coming back? A 770 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 7: lot of question marks. 771 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: Insane and Fred Warner and Bosa coming off injuries, like 772 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: I wonder as that's right. That's why I'm saying is 773 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: this team needs an infusion of youth, youth and speed, 774 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: and they just got older. 775 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 7: So this isn't Karl Malone going to the Lakers, is it? 776 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 7: Remember that two thousand? 777 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they lost to the Pistons and the finals. 778 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope it's not that. And you know, Evan's 779 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 5: really tell. 780 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: You and I should be duly noted. We love Mike Evans, 781 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: great red zone guy, great guy, terrific player, but man, 782 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 1: of all the places to go, the Niners are old. 783 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: We saw him play Seattle at the end of the year, 784 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: the fifth youngest team, and Seattle was so much quicker 785 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: and so much healthier, and so much deeper and so 786 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: much faster and so much more explosive. 787 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, maybe you want to be in a tech hub. 788 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 7: Maybe he's got a future in tech in Silicon Valley 789 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 7: out there. I don't sant Franz lovely as a city. 790 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: Sure, Matt Hasselback Hour number three coming up, on a Tuesday. 791 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: It's the herd