WEBVTT - 2020 Big 12 Conference Preview 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:06.880 Welcome to the solid verbal. Hell that for me. I'm 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:08.080 a man, I'm. 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:10.039 For I've heard so many players say, well, I want 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:11.800 to be happy, you want to be happy for. 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.440 Dake Edo State? Is that woo woom? 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:21.000 And Dan and Tye, welcome back to the solid verbal 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:24.840 Boys and girls. My name is ty hilden Brandt. That 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:29.000 fine gentleman over there, his name is Dan Rubinstein and 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.200 alas we are the solid verbal. 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:35.680 At long last in preview mode, Dan, how are you, Ty? 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:39.199 I am hydrated, I am caffeinated. I took advil just 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.000 in case. Not a sponsor, anti inflammatory shout out to 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:46.199 all of you. And I don't know the significance of 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:49.720 this conference preview in terms of what it actually means 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.199 going forward for whatever happens these next few months with 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.920 college football and the rest of the world. But as 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.320 somebody who has led a nomadic existence since late month March, 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:05.880 we're talking, oh, six pairs of underwear, Max, We're talking total. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.960 I probably left three to four pairs of socks back 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:14.000 in California. We're talking my toddler, My eighteen month old 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.800 toddler definitely practices better hygiene at moments than I do. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:24.680 This single sliver this droplet of normalcy. Tie that we 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:29.920 get to do a conference preview on this show after 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:35.320 what Earth has looked like in twenty twenty. It brings 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.480 me so much joy that I had to harness it 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.240 by listening to both ACDC and Rage against the Machine 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.080 waiting for you to connect for this show. So I 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.000 am thrilled to be here, sir. 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.680 Yeah, I am fired up. I'm a little worried that 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:55.080 we're gonna run and burn hot out of the gate. Yeah, 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.520 got to pace ourselves here as we've got a Big 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:03.040 twelve preview before us. It's our first in preparation for 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.960 the twenty twenty football season. We are starting to see 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:10.200 a little bit more about what that season might look like, 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.400 and we'll talk about that as we do a quick 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.880 news hit at the top here before diving into the 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.160 Big twelve. But doesn't matter what happens the rest of 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.200 the way. They could scrap the whole damn thing tomorrow. 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.680 At least we'll have one preview, Dan, and. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:24.720 I'm excited about it. 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.880 I can't tell you, and maybe you would echo the 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.800 same sentiment. How good it felt to sink your teeth 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:36.960 into some Kansas offense twenty twenty or West Virginia Running 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:41.519 Game twenty twenty. It felt surprisingly good to even look 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.280 at the bad spots of the Big Twelve. 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:48.600 Yeah, some people have those trashy romance and sexy novels 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.040 to distract them from their life or the world at 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.800 large and all of their problems. I suppose I have 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:59.040 Malik Knowles, Andrew Parson, and Tylan Wallace while it's coming 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:00.760 back from an ACL and we've got a couple of 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:04.919 ACL injury returns, so it was a nice escape. And 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:09.240 I am I am hoping for the absolute best in 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.919 terms of not just this Big Twelve conference preview portending 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.400 things that we can react to during the actual season, 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:21.320 but across the board college football things, and I am 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.959 hopeful for improvement with everything surrounding the sport and the universe. 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.880 And we're just gonna we're gonna go from there all. 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:32.040 Right, Before we go any further, don't forget to subscribe 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.640 to the show if you haven't already. 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You know, 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:41.040 I don't want to spam people. 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.760 And frankly, there hasn't been a lot of good stuff 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:45.960 to talk about. Like we try to be positive if 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.040 we're going to be sending stuff to your inbox, and 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.480 hasn't been a whole lot of that so far. In 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.080 this young or old or whatever you want to call 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.000 it preseason that we've got so far. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.120 Yeah, you've pitched a weekly visual, a photo segment in 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.440 the newsletter for the season. It's the race to an 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.320 eight pack. And I don't know if I'm fully on 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.440 board with that, but like a week to week progress report, 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.840 we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. But we're 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.080 pitching things to each other constantly about what the newsletter 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:13.359 is going to look like and how we're going to 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.599 be adding to it and making it more. And this 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.839 is the favorite world of everybody who covers the sport dynamic. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.560 Dynamic, Yeah, the eight pack's all about lighting. I would 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:25.679 add just as a pro that it's all about the lighting. Yeah, 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.880 makeup and shading for me. Do you want to get 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:29.560 into some news? 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.320 I do want to get into news. Let's do it 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:36.760 Pricket news. 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:39.560 So I'm not going to really go for it today. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:46.440 We have a lot of information to transfer. I don't 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:50.360 want to ruin my voice. Okay, so we'll start here. 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.760 I'll follow your lead in this weird, funny form of 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:59.480 a preseason that we've been living through. As the season 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:03.400 does start to take shape, So have some conference schedules. 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.359 We saw that from what the big ten in the 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:10.080 ACC dan. Yeah, we knew the ACC schedule in terms 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.279 of what the home and road splits were going to 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.240 look like before, so we talked about that some of 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.120 the bigger winners and some of the bigger losers. But 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.200 in terms of where bye weeks land and where you 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.720 know there could be let down, look ahead sandwiches land 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.239 and you know, tough back to backs and road stretches whatever, 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.040 we didn't have a full concept of that. I'm sure 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.800 you looked at what Notre Dame schedule look like, which 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.760 is pretty good. Not the way Notre Dame schedule works out. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.240 They have who Western Michigan is. 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:40.240 They're confirmed correct non conference plus one uh Pitt big loser. 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:45.599 I chance Pitt has the final first open week on 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.080 the ACC schedule. They're the only team that I think 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.719 they play what what's looking like seven straight games to 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:55.800 open the season without an open date, whereas everybody else 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.799 has one within I don't know, three or four weeks. 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:03.160 So there's that. Otherwise, Clemson schedule looks pretty great. It's 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.240 an interesting end to their year. They have pit sandwich 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.680 between road games at Florida State and Virginia Tech. But 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.160 road games are not road games in twenty twenty in 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:12.920 the way that they've been, in the way that we're 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.320 used to. Louisville has a pretty interesting schedule. The middle 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.200 of their schedule gets a little bit tricky, but the 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.680 bread part of that that schedule sandwich is fine. So 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:27.080 the powers that be in the ACC, at least the 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.200 ones that we perceive them to be, look pretty good. 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.120 We have what two open dates for each of these teams, 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.360 and the championship game will either be on December twelfth 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.080 or December the nineteenth. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.840 That's right, that's right. And also in the scheduling department, 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.960 we mentioned the big ten, you know, the first thing 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.040 that jumps out at me, and looking at this schedule 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:52.480 matrix here, if Ohio State does not run right through 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:56.880 this schedule, then something's wrong. Maybe half their team ops out. 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.680 I suppose that's a possibility. We're going to talk about 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:04.200 some of those notable opt outs next. But starting your 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:08.240 season with Illinois, Rutgers, Perdue, Indiana, and then Abye is 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.680 a pretty good way to go four to zero. Then 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.520 it's also a pretty good way to ramp up to 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:14.560 I think your toughest game of the year in Penn 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:19.400 State in going from Nebraska to Michigan State, to Michigan 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.400 to Maryland and then Penn State. So they're like they 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.560 have a natural little ramp up there to the tougher 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.440 part of their schedule. It culminates in what they're calling 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.160 Week ten, first week in November against Penn State. 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.320 Yeah, most teams have two consecutive tough games Minnesota out 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:41.040 the shoot is Michigan State, Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, and then 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.800 we'll see about Nebraska. I know you're pretty high on 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.960 the Huskers, and three of those five are on the road. 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:50.360 I looked for sandwiches here Ty and the team, the 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:53.200 meat occupying the letdown look ahead sandwiches that I kept 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:57.400 coming across as Rutgers. So I don't know how profoundly 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.360 difficult the letdown look ahead sandwich situation is in the 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.560 Big ten if we're to get a full season, But 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.920 we won't really know until we have a sense after 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.280 three or four weeks what teams look like. 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:07.760 Both. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.760 I think Penn State and Ohio State get the Michigan 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:15.160 schools and consecutive weeks we'll see what mel Tucker's spartans 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.679 look like to sort of manage or figure out how 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.560 dangerous that actually is. We get Ohio State Illinois to 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.199 open the season on a Thursday night, that would be 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.880 the third I believe of September. And the other big 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:30.320 notable thing is some of the classic traditional rivalry games. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:31.760 And I know the Big Ten has a number of 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.040 those big trophy games, but the biggest of the big 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:35.960 they're sort of spread out through the season. We have 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.000 Michigan Ohio State on the twenty fourth of October instead 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:42.160 of what the second or third week of November. We 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:46.440 have the Acts Minnesota Wisconsin's in week four. Obviously no 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.640 Syhawk because there's no non conference for Iowa Iowa State, 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.320 but Iowa Nebraska has been that final week game and 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.120 that's now week four as well. So the Big Ten 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.480 sending a not so subtle message of we don't know 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.520 how long the season's going to last. We would love 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:07.360 for our bigger games to enter into the eyeballs of 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.960 America no matter what. So, yeah, Penn State Ohio State 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.760 is later on in the season, so I mean it's 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:15.360 a giant win. If we get to that far in 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:19.440 the season and we get that game, it's in Happy Valley. Correct, correct, correct. 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:23.320 I wonder if they'll do like we'll, will the entire 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.800 sideline just wear white as like a white out express. 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:30.920 In Michigan's schedule matrix in particular, I forget which game, 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.200 but one of the games was labeled as a maze out, 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.240 which we'll see. 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.000 How that Okay, how that goes. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:38.960 We'll talk more about that when we get to the 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.640 Big Ten preview, but it is notable that we're starting 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.839 to see dates for starting to see schedules out there, 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.120 and you know, we'll talk more about that certainly as 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:50.880 we move through our previews. The other component of this 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.280 here is the opt outs. 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:53.679 Right. 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:57.440 We talked about Caleb Farley on I Guess two of 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:01.000 our last three episodes, him opting out for his own reasons, 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:05.400 and since then we've seen Rashad Bateman, notable wide receiver 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.720 from Minnesota. We've seen Micah Parsons arguably Penn State's best 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:12.440 player and will be the top defensive player in the country, 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:16.760 top defensive player in the country, and Gregory Rousseau from Miami, 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.160 a red shirt freshman, opting out as well. I saw 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.320 our friend Adam Kramer from Bleacher Report commenting on Twitter 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:28.120 that after the Micah Parsons news broke, he was expecting 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:32.120 something of a wave that perhaps that gave clearance for 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:37.079 other big name, notable players to follow suit. So I 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.520 am bracing a bit for who may be next. 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.600 Yeah, Gregor Russo had a terrific red shirt freshman year 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.679 last season and has already been considered to be a 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:47.920 top ten ish and maybe the best. You know, Edd 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.760 Rusher in this upcoming NFL draft, And I don't not 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.040 that I've seen him say anything that he's going to 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:54.880 focus on preparing for the draft, just that he was 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.560 opting out for safety concerns, right, So, I mean, he 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.880 certainly has a lot of eligibility left, but yeah, it's 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:04.280 something to monitor. There's all sorts of context. Marvin Wilson 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:08.000 at Florida State said that he very much wants to play, 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:09.760 and I think there was a headline that sort of 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.719 misconstrued his words that he said that opting out in 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:15.600 the way that you know PAC twelve and now Big 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.240 ten players in their United Way and in the list 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.880 of asks from their conferences. It was sort of misconstrued 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.920 because he used the phrase the easy way out, but 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.320 it was it was more about Marvin Wilson saying he 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:31.400 decided to come back and not explore his NFL potential, 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:32.960 and so the easy way out would be to not 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.439 play and just sit around. And so he very much 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.280 is enthusiastic about playing with his teammates. So it's I'm 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.880 glad there's a conversation around it. I'm glad players are 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.360 just deciding what's best for them, whether that is playing 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:47.880 or not playing. And it's it's refreshing to see so 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.800 many players using their voices this way. So okay, yeah, 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.679 there will be more. I keep seeing that from going 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.079 to be more college writers, NFL writers is going to 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:56.440 be more. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.160 And that's okay, we get it, we get it, we 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.560 get it. Yeah, one d per, we get it. The 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.800 other interesting tidbit i'd add here before we move on 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:09.120 to Yukon canceling its season for the quote unquote pandemic. 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.320 You know, one of the arguments against spring I'm not 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.320 like advocating for a spring move here though we've talked 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.280 a lot about it, but one of the comments against 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.440 a spring season is, oh, well, the big names are 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.280 just going to opt out. Well they're opting out anyway, 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.959 So we'll see, we'll see where this goes, but more 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:29.480 to come here. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:29.880 For sure. 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.640 I mentioned Yukon. They canceled their season, they opted out 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.480 of their season. It's notable here that they credited the 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.120 pandemic for it, and I do think that is obviously 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:43.640 the underlying and main reason why. However, Yukon's independent school 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:48.120 they lost a bunch of games on their schedule. In 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.280 a very weird and cruel Twitter world, I saw a 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.199 lot of commentary around, oh Yukon. 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.640 Still plays all is still? 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:58.960 I know, I know, I know, I'm just I gotta 0:13:59.000 --> 0:13:59.360 mention it. 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.480 Damn Orlovsky's school sucks that there's. 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.520 Not gonna be Yukon football. We love talking about Yukon 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:05.760 on the show. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:10.840 Wow, well, ty Le's words are important here. We love 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.640 talking Yukon football. Come on, we love. 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.559 It's the roots of Sexier than Edzel. 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.800 That's true, that is true. Uh yeah, it's a bummer. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.120 I like football, bummer. I have no problem with the 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.840 state of Connecticut. I've enjoyed watching Khalid la Meine play 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.720 basketball way back when. Yeah. Sure, yeah. And it was 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.680 notable that Randy Edsel mentioned that it was a big 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:34.160 conversation with players all deciding that this was best for them. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.240 And that's also fine. Did you see the coaches poll came. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.480 Out coaches Pole, That's where I was going. Next, we 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:43.040 have Clemson, Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, LSU as you were 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:47.400 top five, Oklahoma notably is six. We're going to talk 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.800 about them in just a little bit. We will have 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:55.160 a lively discussion, I believe, over whether Texas at fourteen 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.200 deserves to be over Oklahoma State at sixteen. Of course, 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.360 none of this really matters because it's a coach's preseason poll, 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.200 but it is fodder for idiots like us on a 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:11.000 weird podcast like this in you know, mid August, to 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.240 be able to have something to talk about. So any 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.160 big surprises, we got to move on and talk about 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.760 the Big twelve. But any really big surprises to you. 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.840 No, not especially good to see UCF and Cincinnati check 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.040 in at I think it's twenty one and twenty two, 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.760 and then seeing Tennessee, Boise and ASU on the outside 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.800 looking in as the I think the lead others receiving votes. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.160 Schools all seems to make sense a lot of the 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.960 schools that are on the outside looking and I'm you know, 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.000 you know, I'm high on Louisville tie you know, I'm 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.320 high on Louisville. I think they're a top twenty five 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.800 caliber team and perhaps don't have as many questions as 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:46.720 these other schools that didn't make it into the top 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.880 twenty five, even though the defense does need to improve. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.520 We'll get to Louisville at a certain point. But no, nothing, 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.640 nothing seems dramatically off at this point because these teams 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.960 didn't even play in the spring. Noice seems we'll know 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.680 how the fall camp. Have no idea. It's going to 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.400 be a very different type of early season. Whatever it 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:05.840 looks like. 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.280 All right, well again right in sliverbe at gmail dot 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:13.840 com if any of these news bullets inspire you to 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.400 do so, or if you just want to say hi, yeah, 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.800 we're always here. Okay, so the Big Twelve, Dan, I 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.960 don't you know, I don't have a sound to play 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:27.720 for the Big Twelve. How about this one? That's kind 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:31.280 of how I feel about the Big Twelve this year. Yeah, 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.840 it is not the deepest conference, is it. No? 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.240 And it's funny I've mentioned in years past where it 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.720 seems like, oh my god, there's so many good quarterbacks 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.800 in the Big Twelve. It's so interesting that you know, 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.000 even if a team is pretty flawed that they have 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.600 a good quarterback, like a West Virginia with Will Greer 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:53.000 or whoever Brandon Whedon with Oklahoma State. I was looking 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.440 through some old list of Big twelve quarterbacks, and there 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.000 are some years where like twenty eleven was great. It 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.840 was like casual dress. James Franklin and Colin Klein were 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.520 like the fifth and sixth best quarterbacks. That's a hell 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.520 of a hell of a year in terms of quarterback depth. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:12.120 But there were some years like thirteen fourteen where you're 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.880 talking steal Jance and Clint chellf you'll jet steal within 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.320 l e at the end, I believe, yeah, chance with 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:22.760 a Z, I'll due respect. But there were some years 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.640 there was like, oh, it's Bryce Petty and nobody else. 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.240 So I think, I don't know if it's one of 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:33.080 those type of years. I think the floor is pretty high. 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.439 But in terms of headlining quarterbacks specifically, and it's certainly 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.400 a football team is much more than just a quarterback, 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:43.200 it's tricky. I don't know if spicy is how I 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.639 would describe it, but you know, there's some cayenne dust 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:47.639 in there to be clear. 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.199 The floor is still Kansas. It might be about an 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.640 inch or two higher than it was a year ago. 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:58.080 We'll get into that and much much more, but general impressions, 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.359 general questions looking aroun the Big Twelve. I don't know 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.600 if anything struck you. I know one thing that struck me. 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.320 You mentioned the quarterback spot, and we'll get into that 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:10.680 as well. The quarterback position is a huge question mark 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.040 for me. We know a lot about Sam Ellinger and 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.959 Brock Party and even Spencer Sanders, but really questions abound 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:23.320 across the board. I am, in particular very curious about 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:25.400 that number two spot. 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:26.600 In the Big twelve. 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:29.280 You know, like I think we would probably agree that 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.680 Oklahoma is still the team to beat until proven otherwise. 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:38.040 But definitely Oklahoma State and Texas are of particular intrigue 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.840 to me In Iowa State. Iowa State's gotten a lot 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.119 better with regard to recruiting. Their depth is a lot better. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.719 We know we like Brock Party and Breece Hall. Defensively, 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.840 they've done a lot of cool stuff over the last 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.960 three years under Matt Campbell. That to me is the 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.040 real open question. I'm not going to throw TCU in there. 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.679 I don't want to commit the sins of the past 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.879 and dive back in head first TCU, though there is 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:05.040 reason be excited about their defense, but in particular that 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:07.879 number two spot in the conference for me is what 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:09.760 I'm most interested in right now. 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.480 You love talking number two, You love talking number two 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.480 of the deuces. Yeah, last year, I mean number two 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.399 to me is it's year two for all sorts of 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:22.359 head coaches. Right, It's year one for David at Baylor. 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.760 So good but so good. But Matt Wells and Neil 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:29.600 Brown and Less Miles and Chris climb and all entered 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.200 their second year. So last year it seemed like those 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:32.800 a lot of upheaval and like, what do we expect 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:34.600 from year one out of these guys, and what type 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.399 of continuity can we expect after you? Dania Holgerson had 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.240 so much success, and Bill Snyder had so much success, 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.199 and you know, Texas Tech had all sorts of up 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:44.840 and down situation with their coaches over these last few years. 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:48.160 But Cliff Kingsbury was fun. Don't get me wrong, Cliff 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:51.200 Kingsbury was fun. We only have one new coach and 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.080 David Randas, so we I think we know what to 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.920 expect more and we're just more curious about the next 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:59.919 step more so than what are they going to look? 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.560 So that to me is interesting. That is for sure interesting. 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:07.840 But you're right, it's another year of just a wide, 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.359 wide open middle class of the conference. So here's the 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.080 way that we structured it. Last year. 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:16.280 We got a lot of positive feedback. Yeah, when it 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.119 came to previewing conferences, but each of us went through. 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:22.640 I took half of the conference. You took half the conference. 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.160 Both of us looked at all of the conference, obviously 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.880 to be able to talk about it. But in looking through, 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:31.880 we formulated questions about each team, questions that we think 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:36.120 are a good build into just where is this thing 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.480 going to go in twenty twenty. Let's start at the 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:42.240 top with Oklahoma. I know you did the deep dive 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.760 of the Sooners, but I guess as you look at 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:48.280 this team and what they did last year under Alex Grinch, 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:52.760 there is no denying that there was improvement in the 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:56.520