1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Ron Anian folks, the car's twelve to fourteen years old. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: How can you ask for a recall on something that's 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: rusted out and been through ten or more winters, especially 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: in the harsh Midwest where they have this thing called 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: salt that melts snow and ice. The car Doctor, you know, 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: my experience has been the aftermarket catch are typically three 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: quarters the size of the original equipment. 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: Cat. 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: I mean they're cheaper. There's a reason why they're cheaper. 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 3: It's the same material, there's just less of it. 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 4: Welcome to the radio home of ron Aanian, the Car Doctor. 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 4: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 4: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 5: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal. 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 4: Pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 4: are open. 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 5: But I am here to take your calls. At eight 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 5: five five five six, ninety nine hundred and now he 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 5: years running. 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 6: Start spreading the news. 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 7: I'm leaving today. I want to be a part of it. 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 5: New York, New yr. 23 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 6: Ron An amiens. 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 5: Hey, how far can I ride on a flat tire? 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 3: That was the question at the shop this week. Hello 26 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: and welcome ronnin Adie and the car doctor here is 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: always at eight five five five six zero nine nine 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: zero zero, real honest to god phone call, folks, call 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: comes into the shop. Hey, I've got a flat tire. 30 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: If I put air in it, how far can I go? 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: I thought about it, and I said, I really need 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: a good answer for this, because I've got to like 33 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 3: nip this in the bud, because if this is somebody 34 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: that thinks they can drive around on a flat I've 35 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: got to give them something to think about it. My 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: second question was what color are my eyes? And they 37 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: said I don't know. I said, well, that's right. You 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: haven't seen my eyes and I haven't seen your tire. 39 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: And that's why either one of us knows what answer 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: to give. So the safe answer is fix the tire 41 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: and get it towed, which they did. But it brought 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: up an interesting point in my mind, and that how 43 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: many of you are capable and willing and able and 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: ready to deal with flat tires, spare tires? 45 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 5: Where are they? 46 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: What kind of jack equipment is in the vehicle? And 47 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: it made me think I have to start banging the 48 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: drum again. With regards to young drivers, we had a 49 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: young driver come into the shop this week. She was 50 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: thirty five hundred miles overdue for her oil change. She 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: came in because the license plate light bulb was out, 52 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 3: and that's. 53 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 5: Great, I told her. 54 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: I said, I'm really glad that you were paying attention 55 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: for that, but you know, the oil change has gone 56 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: thirty five hundred miles late. And she wasn't even aware 57 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: of where the sticker was or what it meant, and 58 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: nobody had ever taken the time to explain it to her. 59 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: And that's when I realized. Between that phone call and 60 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: her showing up, I said, what would happen if you 61 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: got a flat? Would you know how to deal with it? 62 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: She thought about it, eighteen years old, stuck on the 63 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: side of the road. 64 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 5: No, I wouldn't. Nobody's ever told me how to deal with. 65 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: That either, And it made me think that it's really 66 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: time for the experienced generation, us older folks. We've got 67 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: to really start teaching the kids. 68 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 5: Listen. 69 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: We know we can't teach them to work on cars 70 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: the way my generation did in the generations before and 71 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: a little bit after, but we've got to teach them 72 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: how to change flats. I told her the story that 73 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: when my kids all got their driver's license. Everybody first 74 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: stay out, they went down, they got their license, they 75 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: came back used cars. 76 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 5: I'm ready to go. 77 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 6: Good. 78 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: Put the air out of one tire. When you learn 79 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: how to change that, I'll let you go out tonight. 80 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: And that's a true story. That's how all my girls, 81 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: all my girls know how to change a flat tire. 82 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: And that's something they've never forgotten. And I'm glad to 83 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: say that I was able to do that for them. 84 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: Anyway, something to think about. 85 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: Just be aware of flat tires and how to deal 86 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: with flat tires and spares and never have to ask 87 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: the question, how long can I write on a flat 88 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: Probably not too far anyway. Let's one thing we want 89 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: to do is we want to mention the fact and 90 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: welcome to the Car Doctor Family WRCR AM seventeen in Ramapo, 91 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: New York. 92 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 5: We're glad to have them. 93 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: They are the voice of the Hudson Valley and we're 94 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: happy and proud to be on them here now in 95 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: the New York City area, in the Tristate area is 96 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: a growing part of the car Doctor family and once 97 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: again a radio station that gets it. And we're glad 98 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: to add them to the list and we're glad for 99 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: our listeners in New York. And the Car Doctor is back. 100 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 5: Thank you. 101 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 3: Let's get over and open the garage doors, which I 102 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 3: know is what everybody is waiting for. Let's kick them 103 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: open and go talk to Mike ninety nine expedition with 104 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: some problems in an AC code. Mike, you're on with 105 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: the car Doctor, baby, How can I help? 106 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 6: Well, it's if you got a toad's telling me that 107 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 6: I'm lean on bankline. I just got done replacing the 108 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 6: engine on it. I have the engine replaced. Okay, backyard 109 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 6: mechanic guy. 110 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 5: That's all right. So what you've got a P zero 111 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 5: one seven to one fault code on the left side, 112 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 5: I think so all right? 113 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: And nothing no other fault codes in the system, No 114 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: other fault codes. 115 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 6: Okay, but the air conditioner compressor qu work at the 116 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 6: exact same time. I didn't know if it was just 117 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 6: coincidence or maybe there's a wire harness that isn't connected. 118 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the answer the answer to all of 119 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 3: that is possibly maybe. 120 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 5: Sure. 121 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: Besides the fault code, does anybody scan this? Can you 122 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 3: tell me what any sort of fuel trim readings are? 123 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: Do we have any answers. 124 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 6: There, No, I haven't had it scanned, okay. Uh. 125 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 5: Basically, think of it like this. 126 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: You've got a V eight engine, right, You've got two 127 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: four cylinders under the hood, all right. And the way 128 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: the computer looks at it on this car is it 129 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: looks at the left side and the right side, so 130 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 3: it's setting a fault code for P zero one, seven 131 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: to one until you know what the right side is doing. 132 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: It's it's really not a safe bet to start diagnosing anything. 133 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 5: You ever get sick, Mike, not very often, well, but 134 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 5: you do, right, I mean, you get a sore throat 135 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 5: of fever. 136 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: You ever noticed, like a couple of days before, you're 137 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: just not feeling right, and it slowly creeps up on 138 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 3: you and you kind of say to yourself, I don't 139 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: feel too good. I better get to bed early tonight, 140 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: or I better stop doing this or doing that and 141 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: start taking care of myself. That's your brain, that's your 142 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: body computer saying, hey, we're about to set a fault code. 143 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: You gotta be ready. The car computer does the same thing. 144 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 3: It looks at the fuel trim, left side, right side. 145 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 3: The left side already has the aches and pains. It's 146 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: set the code if the right side has aches and pains, 147 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: but it's a little slow and catching up, it's not 148 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: as fast. 149 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 5: It hasn't set. 150 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 3: The P zero one seven four Foult code yet, which 151 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: if it's a lean code, that's what it's going to be. 152 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 5: All right. 153 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: Now, if you look at fuel trim and the left 154 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 3: side fuel trim is plus twenty five percent and the 155 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: right side or bank two is zero, then we've got 156 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: a left side fault, and then we can start to 157 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: think about oxygen centers. 158 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 5: We can start to think about vacuum leaks related to. 159 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 3: The left side and the left side only or bank 160 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: one only, whichever side it is, and kind of pursue 161 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 3: it that way. So before we start jumping around and 162 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: looking at wiring and maybe making it worse. 163 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 5: Do you have access to a scan tool? 164 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 6: I just have the one that it's part of my tuner. 165 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 5: Okay. Does it give you fuel trim readings? 166 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 6: No? It does not. 167 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: Okay, just spend one hundred bucks by a scan tool. 168 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: Cheap enough, all right, and let me explain to you 169 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: what you're looking for. All right? 170 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 5: What do you do for a living mic aircraft? 171 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: Okay, so so you understand technical stuff. If zero is 172 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: a balanced air fuel mixture. 173 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 5: All right. 174 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: If they have to add fuel to the mixture because 175 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: it's lean, you're going to see a positive number. If 176 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: they have to take fuel away because it's running rich, 177 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: it's a negative number. There is short term fuel trim, 178 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: what's happened right here. Now, there's long term fuel trim, 179 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: which is history. It's what happened over a certain time period, 180 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: and it varies by vehicle manufacturer and model year. So 181 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: what you're looking for or is you want to put 182 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: a scanner on it. You want to look at fuel trim. 183 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: You want to look at bank one, bank two. You 184 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: want to see fuel trims somewhere zero plus or minus 185 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: ten percent, anything extreme beyond that, that'll tell us where 186 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: to go. If you can do that this week, call 187 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: me back next week. I'll be glad to help you further. 188 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, sir. 189 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: If you need help during the week, let me point 190 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: this out too. If you do need help during the 191 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: week and you want to shoot me an email Ron 192 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: at cardoctorshow dot com. 193 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,559 Speaker 5: All right, sir, all right, thank you, you're very welcome. 194 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 5: Take good care. 195 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: Let's get on over and talk to Gene Marie Hertford 196 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: Connecticut online too. Jean Marie, welcome to the car doctor. 197 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 5: How can I help? 198 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: Hi? 199 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 5: How are you? 200 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 8: I caught you the other day because I was having 201 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 8: a problem with the ABS and rapel s on my 202 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 8: two thousand and three shetty s and four cylinder engine. Okay, 203 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 8: on the answernet and looked up what the problem might 204 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 8: be and replace the modular. 205 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: Okay, the ABS controller with all the brake lines going 206 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: into it. Yes, okay, did you scan any of this? 207 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: Did you scan any of this for fault codes? 208 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 5: Jean Marie? Now, okay, so yeah, we're rolling the dice. 209 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 5: Go ahead. 210 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 8: Okay, we didn't know who should bleed the brakes. 211 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 5: Well, you're going to have to bleed the brakes. 212 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 3: Well did you change did you change the entire assembly 213 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 3: disconnecting the lines or did you just try and change 214 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: the electronic portion? 215 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 8: Did we disconnected the battery cable and. 216 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 5: Then just put no? 217 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: If this was you did the electronic side, then the 218 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: hydraulic portion of the brakes aren't affected. They are they're 219 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: as good as they are now as they were before 220 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: you replaced what you replaced. 221 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 8: Okay, all right, they seem to be yeah. 222 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 5: Right, so is the lights are the lights still on? 223 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 7: No? 224 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 5: Okay? 225 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: And your question to me, okay, so was your question 226 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: to me just do you need to bleed the brakes? 227 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 7: Yes? 228 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Then if you didn't touch the hydraulics, if 229 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: you didn't open the hydraul as far as if you 230 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: didn't open the hydraulics, then you're fine right where you are? 231 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 5: All right? Oh yeah, you're very welcome. 232 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: I'm running Annie in the Card Doctor eight five five 233 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: five six zero nine nine zero zero. By the way, 234 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: if you're looking for more information about this radio show, 235 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: it's cardoctorshow dot com. You'll find a wide list of 236 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 3: websites there. Among them, iheartunes dot com for podcasts of 237 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 3: this radio show and subscription. And I'll be back right 238 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: after this. Glad to be here. 239 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 5: Say can hey welcome back run an Annie in the 240 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 5: Card Doctor. 241 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: The phone number is eight five five five six zero 242 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: nine nine zero zero. Call in, get your car question answered. 243 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: Don't be afraid of your car. Let me help you 244 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: deal with it and understand that at a level that 245 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: makes you comfortable. Eight five to five five six zero 246 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: nine to nine zero zero. Let's do a quick piece 247 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: of email before we go back to the busy phones ron. 248 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: I just left my twenty fourteen Jeep Grand Cherokee at 249 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: the dealer for a P zero five twenty fourth code 250 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 3: and any recalls and reflashes it may need. 251 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 5: The service writer said. 252 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 3: The reflashes are twenty dollars each because I'm out of 253 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: warranty at forty thousand miles and I need six. Should 254 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: they charge for an improvement that that my car should 255 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: have from the factory or Am I wrong to think 256 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: that way? 257 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 5: Thanks? Tom? 258 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: I think you're wrong to think that way, Tom, and 259 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. Now you know, maybe forty thousand 260 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: miles isn't a whole lot to you, but the car 261 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 3: is one, let's. 262 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 5: See, twenty fourteen a year. It's still a lot of warranty. 263 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: That's kind of weird, though, I wonder if the reflashes. 264 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: My question would have to be are the reflashes emissions related? 265 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 3: And I'm wondering where that falls under what jurisdiction be 266 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: I believe there's an emission compliance warranty here as well, 267 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: and I would be mindful of that. But you have 268 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: to think of it as a software improvement. Now, you 269 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 3: buy Windows and they don't charge you for downloads, and 270 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: they guarantee it. I guess for the life of the 271 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: program or until the program has to be replaced. But 272 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: that's at a different level. Software reflashes are a modification 273 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 3: that may or may not affect performance, but may be 274 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: there for another reason. So unless you know what those 275 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: recalls actually are, four, I can't say that they're right 276 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 3: or wrong for charging it. The point you really need 277 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: to look at here is what are the reflash is for? 278 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 5: And they may not know. 279 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 3: They may just say, hey, there's a reflash for this 280 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: or a reflash for that, and the question becomes why 281 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: you need six. The part that bothers me about this 282 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: email I've got to tell you, Tom, is that they 283 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: need six because usually one supersedes and overrides the other. 284 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 3: I have not seen unless they're saying six separate components 285 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: six separates, which is very possible. So I think part 286 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 3: of the problem here I would have with this is 287 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: if you purchase the vehicle there to twenty fourteen. If 288 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: they're looking to build goodwill, I won't say that they 289 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: should do it for free, but I think they should. 290 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: I think they should cut you some slack here on 291 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 3: the price, because it's easy enough for them to do 292 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: it's something they do part and parcel of each and 293 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 3: every day. Good question for a warranty for a relationship 294 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: builder here, Tom, I would go back and talk to 295 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: them and see if maybe perhaps you can kind of 296 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: talk your way into would they do something for you 297 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 3: on a you know, Listen, I get my car service 298 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: here and I'd like to continue to do so. Can 299 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: you meet me halfway and give me it for a 300 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: half price? See what that doesn't? 301 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 5: Email me again? Ron atcardoctorshow dot com. Let's go back 302 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 5: to the phone. 303 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 3: Let's go over to Gloria, Sacramento, California, twenty ten Honda 304 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: Civic and some questions about fuel economy. Gloria, you're around 305 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: with the car doctor. How can I help at eight 306 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: five five five six zero nine. 307 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 5: Nine zero zero. 308 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 2: Well, I've only been driving this Honda Civic. It's a 309 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: two ten and I've only been driving it for two weeks. 310 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: And I specifically ask for a four cylinder and it's 311 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,359 Speaker 2: got a one point eight liter engine. It's an automatic. 312 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: I'm really disappointed in the gas mileage because I'm only 313 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: getting twenty miles to the gallon. I mean, everything else, 314 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: the air filter, the pressure in the air, the tires. 315 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 7: It's all good. 316 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: So I'm really needing to know what is it then 317 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: that determines the miles per gallon in the city on 318 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: a car. 319 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: Well, the way they come up with the CAFE ratings 320 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 3: of the corporate average fuel economy is they will run 321 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: a test cycle and they basically they being the federal 322 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: government in the agency that controls this rating, they will 323 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: take an average sampling of how people drive and decide 324 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: that this person goes here and this person goes there, 325 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: and this is going to be a city loop, and 326 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: this is going to be a highway loop, and we're 327 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 3: going to combine that. And here's the differences in you know, 328 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: this one is city rating, this is the highway rating. 329 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 5: And so on. 330 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: What determines that and the engine is a lot of factors. 331 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: It's tire pressure, it's filters, it's it's general maintenance, its 332 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: general condition of the car. But you will typically find 333 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: a ten to fifteen percent drop off from CAFE rating 334 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: to actual mileage around town. But one of the things 335 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: I want to point out is my first question in 336 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: this type of scenario, what kind of driving do you do? 337 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 5: You know, are you are. 338 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 8: You mostly stop and go or just yeah, it's always 339 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 8: in the city. 340 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: I hardly ever go more than five miles away from 341 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: where I live. But yeah, it's stopped and go all 342 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: of the time. 343 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: Right, And that's not the cafe rating. And you want 344 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: to know why, because if they did cafe rating based 345 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: on the person that goes five miles to the market 346 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: and back and six miles this way and back and 347 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: four miles that way and back, the cafe ratings would 348 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: be lower and nobody would buy the car because the 349 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: miles per gallon would be less. 350 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: So when they told me twenty five miles per gallon, 351 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: were they kind of like including freeway driving in that. 352 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: Well, it depends on who they is and what their 353 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: number is. There is a way you can go out 354 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: on the web and Google search, you know, twenty ten 355 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: Honda Civic Cafe ratings, corporate average fuel economy ratings, and 356 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: that will give you the government mandated listing and ratings 357 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: for what that car should be. Now, you just purchased 358 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: this car, Gloria, I've only. 359 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: Been drying ving it for a little over two weeks. 360 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: Okay, so it's five years old at this point, right, Okay, 361 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 3: so you. 362 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 5: Know it's a five year old car. 363 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: The first question you want to come back to is 364 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: you know, what sort of maintenance has it had? At 365 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: one hundred and thirteen thousand miles, it's not factory fresh anymore. 366 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: And if the person that you purchased it from primarily 367 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 3: did oil changes and that was it, you know, a 368 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: lot of things can be factored in. When was the 369 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: last time the fuel system had maintenance? Did it ever 370 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: have a car cleaning? You know, cars grow older cars, 371 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: cars from a dealership. 372 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: Okay, and there was a car facts list of things 373 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: that have been done to it. Yeah, okay, you. 374 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 3: Know it's it's it's remember the dealership is there to 375 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 3: sell it to you. Now now you know, it's like, hey, listen, 376 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 3: they're trying to make a living and they're you know, 377 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: it's it's so, you know, my questions are you know, 378 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: and I don't find twenty although twenty is a little 379 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 3: low for a civic, but I'm thinking it's the combination 380 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 3: of your driving style and frankly, when that car was 381 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: cafe tested back in two thousand and eight and nine, 382 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 3: before it was sold as a twenty ten, we were 383 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: into an entirely different formulation of gasoline at that point, 384 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 3: and that plays a factor too, So you know, all 385 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 3: being considered, I think the way I would tell you 386 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 3: to approach this is, do you have a mechanic that 387 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 3: you trust? 388 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 5: Yes, and it's time to go in and. 389 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: Talk to him and have that cup of coffee conversation 390 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: and say, look, you know, can we catch up on maintenance. 391 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 3: Can we make sure it had a ninety thousand mile service? 392 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 3: Can we do a fuel system cleaning where we you know, 393 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 3: blast away at carbon deposits and clean the intake tracks 394 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: and things like that. And can we make sure all 395 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: the filters and the tire pressure is done and check 396 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 3: the alignment and things like that. And then just for giggles, 397 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: take it out on the highway and take it out 398 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 3: for a little bit of a longer ride, go somewhere 399 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 3: for a half hour, or try to put one hundred 400 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 3: miles on it and check your miles per gallon and 401 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 3: I can almost guarantee you it's. 402 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 5: Gonna come up. And that's gonna make a huge difference. Glory. 403 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 5: I appreciate the call. 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Real quick. 416 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: I want to flash back myself, no pun intended to 417 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 3: that twenty fourteen Grand Cherokee email as I sat here 418 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: thinking about it over the pause. 419 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 5: I think Tom's getting cheated, and I'll tell you why. 420 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 3: Because anything PCM Powertrain Control Module or TCM trans Control Module, 421 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: anything a mission related is covered under eight year, eighty 422 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 3: thousand mile warranty. So depending upon what modules are being flashed, 423 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: and I don't know that they can disseminate between the 424 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 3: two at what level. I think the dealer here is 425 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: trying to pick salt at or Yeah, he's trying to 426 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: pick apart salt and pepper with boxing gloves on, and 427 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: I think he's trying to make it difficult and make 428 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: a couple of bucks where he doesn't necessarily have to. 429 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: And I hate to portray it in that light, but 430 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 3: just something there doesn't sit right with me. That on 431 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: a one year old vehicle, whatever happened to bumper to 432 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 3: bumper coverage and something doesn't sound right, Tom, I'd go 433 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 3: back and I talk to somebody. I'd look for somebody 434 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: higher up and get a better answer, because that one, 435 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: that one kind of stinks. Hey, by the way, we're 436 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: giving away I should point that we're giving away an 437 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 3: MC truck prize this hour, a twenty five dollars gift card. 438 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: It's either gonna be with a hat or a T shirt. 439 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 3: It's kind of a grab bag for anyone that calls 440 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 3: in and if Ast Harry awards them to LMC truck. 441 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 3: If you want more information, get out to LMC truck 442 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: dot com. They are the guys if you've got a Chevy, 443 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 3: a Ford, or a Dodge vehicle, truck or suv, anything 444 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: from the late forties on up. They're the guys to 445 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: go to if you're looking to restore something or help 446 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 3: fix up your modern ride. 447 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 5: LMC truck dot com. Let's get over to the phones. 448 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 3: Let's get over and talk to Robert twenty ten Ford 449 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: escape in an airbag problem. Robert, Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 450 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 3: You're on at eight five five five six zero nine 451 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: nine zero zero. 452 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 7: Thank you for taking my call. 453 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 5: You're welcome, sir. What's up? 454 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 7: I bought McCarley because the airbag light came on. Got 455 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 7: a call from the dealer saying that someone at some 456 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 7: point installed an inhibitor sensor that actually blocked the sensor 457 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 7: to the airbags. So for four years I've been trying 458 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 7: it around with no airbaggs. 459 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 5: WHOA, Okay, well wait a minute, now, did you buy 460 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 5: this new or used? 461 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 7: I bought it new, and in February of twenty ten, 462 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 7: my son did have an accident in aug July twenty ten. Fuckay, okay, 463 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 7: we took it in to be repaired, which was substantial 464 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 7: under insurance. 465 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, And now it's now you're being told 466 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: that the airbag system. 467 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 5: Wasn't repaired properly. 468 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 8: Right, all right? 469 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 5: I talked to my insurance company. 470 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 7: Oh okay, I would after all this time, it would 471 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 7: still be well. 472 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: I think you listen, I think the liabil Let me 473 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 3: ask you a question this way, or say it this way, Robert, 474 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 3: God forbid. 475 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 5: That vehicle got. 476 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: Into another accident a year later and somebody was killed 477 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: because the airbag didn't go off. 478 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 5: How hard would you push for it? Then? Yes, right, okay, 479 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 5: I'd be a little annoyed here. 480 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 7: I'd I'm very upset that I had filed out this. 481 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 7: And I have to say that technician at the dealer 482 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 7: was seemed to be incredulous. 483 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: About it, right, you know, because somebody didn't do their job. 484 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 3: And this is exactly what I talk about when I 485 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: say an onobill is a two to three ton missile 486 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 3: going down the road at sixty miles an hour, and 487 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 3: if somebody doesn't do their job right, somebody dies. Here's 488 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: a case where somebody not only didn't do their job right, 489 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: they went out of their way to do it wrong. 490 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 3: And and they're playing well, why would. 491 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 7: Why would they even do that? I mean, if it's 492 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 7: a coming body insurance, if they're doing the work anyway, Yeah, 493 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 7: you know. 494 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 5: I don't know. 495 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: Listen, why do people do the things they do? I 496 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: don't I don't have that answer, and I don't think 497 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: I should go into it. This is a car show. 498 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: But although water repair is a study in human nature, 499 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 3: and I say that all the time too. I would 500 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: I would be talking to my insurance company and I 501 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: would ask for the adjuster to you know, they can 502 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: go back in their files. I'm gonna say that the 503 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 3: majority of in the way I understand it in New 504 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: Jersey and the majority of insurance repairs that they're always 505 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 3: talking about lifetime guarantees on the repair work, depending upon 506 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 3: how the insurance company has their connection built in with 507 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 3: the repair facility. I'm going to bet dollars to donuts 508 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: it's pretty much the same way in New York. So 509 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: I think the insurance company is on the hook for 510 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: this one, and I think you're I think your conversation 511 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: has to be with regards to the liability and ask 512 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: and ask them when they start pushing you off. Hey, listen, 513 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: I'm calling up because I wanted fixed. I'm not calling 514 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: you up saying somebody died as a result of the 515 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 3: negligence of the body shop you guys sent me to. 516 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 7: Okay, right right, yeah, right, you know, yeah, let me 517 00:23:59,240 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 7: know what. 518 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: Let me know what weapons here, because you can tell 519 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 3: them you were talking to me. And if we need 520 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: to discuss this on air, we sure can. Because that's 521 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 3: there's a huge liability factor here. There's a huge liability 522 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 3: problem here. They're playing with somebody's life. Okay, ye, all right, 523 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: you're very welcome, Robert. 524 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 5: Good luck to you. Yeah, that's hey. Listen. 525 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 3: You know what I always say, the liability for repair 526 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: is on the repair facility and something like that. As 527 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 3: somebody bypassed an air bag system. If somebody modifies anything 528 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 3: on a car without good reason or something against the 529 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 3: law because modifying an air bag system isn't legal. You're 530 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: playing with somebody's life here. You're not allowed to defeat 531 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: the system. That's why you'll notice people will call me 532 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 3: up and say, hey, Ron, can. 533 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 5: I take this out? 534 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: Can I disable the anti theft? Can I buye Listen, 535 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: There's a lot of ways to do a lot of things. 536 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: There's certain things I won't talk about, and that's one 537 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: of them. 538 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 5: And you know, I go back to will lighten up 539 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 5: the moment. 540 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: I go back to when I was teaching and yeah, 541 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 3: a million years ago, another lifetime, and I was teaching 542 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 3: the kids how to how ignition systems worked, true story, 543 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 3: and I figured the best way to teach. Now, I 544 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 3: was a young school teacher at the time, and I 545 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: didn't really make the connection. I taught them how to 546 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: bypass the ignition switch and hot wire the car, thinking 547 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 3: they would then realize that purple is hot you know, 548 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: red as switched power and so on, and you know 549 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: this would be a really good lesson like this would stick. 550 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 3: Unfortunately it did, because three days later one of the 551 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 3: kids showed up with his gto That shows you how 552 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 3: long ago this was, and I said, I thought you 553 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 3: were grounded. Your dad took the car away from you. 554 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: He goes, hey, he took the keys, he didn't take 555 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: the car. So I'd have the conversation with him and 556 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 3: his father and apologize and promise I would never do 557 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: that again. So always be mindful about how you say 558 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: things and what you talk about with regards to the cars. 559 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 3: It was. It was a rather funny moment that I 560 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 3: remember from thirty five years ago. Anyway, A five, five, 561 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 3: five six zero nine nine zero zero. I'mron on any 562 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 3: and the car doctor. Give us a call, and keep 563 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: in mind that LMC gift card is still for grabs 564 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 3: this hour. 565 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 5: We'll be back right after this. 566 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: They put a fucking road out a piece of linen 567 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: where the supermarket use is done. 568 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: Before that, they put up the bowling Holland,