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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio, another.

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Speaker 2: Week of the Bachelorette. This is the almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: with my co host, who is incredible, who is very

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Speaker 2: excited right now, very pumped up about this week's episode.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot to talk about, a lot to

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Speaker 2: break down. It's Hometown's week. Hello Ashley, Hello Ben.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I am super stoked about talking about this episode.

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Speaker 3: It was such a good episode. There's so many feelings,

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Speaker 3: so much warmth. I loved all the families, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I was, I was really so engaged. This is so

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Speaker 3: funny when Charity ends up meeting Jesse at the end

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Speaker 3: to just kind of deliberate, deliberate about the week. I

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Speaker 3: was expecting to see Chris Harrison. I haven't been like

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Speaker 3: that invested in that long that I expected Harrison to.

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Speaker 2: Just be there. You're just like, this feels like a

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Speaker 2: Harrison week. Yes, Wow, wasn't.

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Speaker 3: But we still love Jesse. We still love Jesse. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so loved this episode so much because so many reasons.

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Speaker 3: One we got to know so many great people, and

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Speaker 3: two you just didn't know what the heck was going

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Speaker 3: to happen at the end, and it wasn't because multiple

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Speaker 3: things had gone wrong during the week. It was because

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Speaker 3: so many things went great. There was only one wrong thing,

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Speaker 3: and it happened with somebody, Joey, who I thought was

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Speaker 3: too strong leading up to this week to have just

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Speaker 3: one fault bring him down.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to break down. We're going to

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Speaker 2: go in order here of hometowns. Ashley is right, I think, Ashley,

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Speaker 2: would you tell me that I'm right if I made

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Speaker 2: this statement that in seasons past, this has been the

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Speaker 2: most I don't want to say likable. That's not the word.

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Speaker 2: I want to use. The most peaceful, the most, the easiest,

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Speaker 2: the the the least bizarre hometown's week in recent memory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because usually you get the whole protective parents or

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Speaker 3: and then you get somebody who got riled up and

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Speaker 3: made the lead feel uncomfortable. We didn't have that either.

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Speaker 3: We just had an Uncle Joe. We'll get to Uncle Joe,

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Speaker 3: who I wonder if Joey is named after in a

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Speaker 3: few Let's start with Aaron. Why we call him? Why

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Speaker 3: we still call him an Aaron B. But it just

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Speaker 3: feels like Aaron B. Rolls off the tongue. Aaron Bee's hometown.

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Speaker 2: It's Aaron's hometown in Houston, Texas. It's hometown week. We're

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Speaker 2: going to go in order today with Aaron, Joey, Xavier, Doton,

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Speaker 2: Ashley coming into this week. Aaron Bees the one that

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Speaker 2: we felt like was most likely to go home. Now

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Speaker 2: we did, I will say, and you kind of mentioned

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Speaker 2: it at the beginning of this podcast. This was the

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Speaker 2: hometown I was most intrigued by going into this episode

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Speaker 2: because we thought he was going home. We thought I

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Speaker 2: expected something to be clearly go wrong here where we'd

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Speaker 2: be like, of course, now he's going home. It's not

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Speaker 2: a shocker. But as you mentioned the beginning of episode,

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Speaker 2: after watching the first couple of dates, you and I

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Speaker 2: both felt like we didn't know who was going to

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Speaker 2: be eliminated because this hometown went really well. Kick it

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Speaker 2: off with Aaron Be's.

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Speaker 3: Hometown, all right, So Aerin kind of goes straight into

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Speaker 3: Later we meet his two parents, who are standing stand outs,

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Speaker 3: Eddie and Ethel. Amazing. Aaron says, yes, Ethel is the

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Speaker 3: name of my dog, so it's a special name for us.

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Speaker 3: We had a Lucy and then we had an Ethel. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so Aaron kind of Warren's charity that his mom can

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Speaker 3: be tough on girls. She doesn't like a lot of

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Speaker 3: and she is warm and she loves charity, not without

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Speaker 3: I told them my boys and don't bring home girlfriends.

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Speaker 3: She even admits to the mom that if she had

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Speaker 3: She said no, which is honest. But then at the

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Speaker 3: she's crying because she feels bad. But then the episode

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Speaker 3: So we're totally thrown off of what happens at the

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Speaker 3: let's continue to talk, Lak. Is there anything that you

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's unique. Well, I think one thing

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Speaker 2: I want to mention is it's always exciting Eddie and Ethel.

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Speaker 2: They had thirty two years of marriage, I think was

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Speaker 2: to that. But then also, you know, it's interesting to

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Speaker 2: watch this episode for me Ashley now knowing how it

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Speaker 2: ends right with Aaron be going home and seeing him,

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Speaker 2: fallen behind. I think these other three relationships had such

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Speaker 2: but knowing what we know about Charity so far through

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Speaker 2: it's going to be so hard, like these next steps

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Speaker 3: Like I think she's stressed. I think she would be

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Speaker 3: stressed at the end of this date, thinking like, oh crap,

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Speaker 3: this was the guy that I was supposed to kind

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Speaker 2: Of this Yes, but she's not. She's feel I don't

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Speaker 3: I think she's truly happy, and I wonder what the

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I wonder. I wish she was here

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Speaker 3: truly look at this like each day was with a

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Speaker 3: plotting them against each other?

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Speaker 2: Yep? I agree. Well, next hometown date is Joey's. It's

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Speaker 2: Joey's hometown date, which is in Collegeville, Pennsylvania, which I've

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Speaker 2: of it. But Charity is very excited to meet Joey's family.

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Speaker 2: I think there's reasons for that. I think she's very

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Speaker 2: Joey and Charity have felt like they've always been in

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Speaker 3: No, she's not saying it's great. So I think that

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Speaker 3: but it wasn't. It was his uncle. Asked Charity, if

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Speaker 2: We kind of well, I just want to pause you there, though,

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Speaker 2: It was just a good teaser. It necessary, It doesn't

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Speaker 2: It wasn't necessarily overblown. It was very much what we saw.

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Speaker 3: So he decides to take her to a tennis court

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Speaker 3: I'm like, obviously, like everybody's been really into Joey the

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Speaker 3: him directly next to a date with Aaron B I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I understand she's she's definitely like more crushing on Joey.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 3: So they they're in there, they're doing the in and

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Speaker 3: if there's anything like from he He basically just says, like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And I also think that like he's always been

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Speaker 3: This is a podcast, guys, I'm just throwing out things

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Speaker 6: Hi, I'm Chris Harrison, host of the most dramatic podcast ever,

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Speaker 6: If you will, I've got you listen to the most

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Speaker 3: So the family great, the mom super emotional, she seemed

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Speaker 3: really sweet. Everybody was really excited that he found him

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Speaker 3: found a girl to give his heart too. It seems

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Speaker 3: like he does not give his heart easily. And the

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Speaker 3: huge thing is just the whole exit. Because she was

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Speaker 3: ready to say I'm falling in love with you. She

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Speaker 3: didn't say this about any other guy during this episode,

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Speaker 3: but she was preparing to possibly say it to Joey

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Speaker 3: if it seemed like the right timing if things went great.

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Speaker 3: But because they, as she said, didn't go great, and

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Speaker 3: because I think he didn't really say anything along those lines,

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Speaker 3: she doesn't say anything. She puts them in the car crying.

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Speaker 3: She keeps saying, I'm crying because I'm gonna miss you.

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Speaker 3: But he can pick up that that is not the

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Speaker 3: whole story, and he says that he feels like he

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Speaker 3: might be on the chopping block because they always leave

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Speaker 3: each other excited to further explore their relationship and this

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Speaker 3: just felt off.

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Speaker 2: So where do you think it goes? I mean, at

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Speaker 2: this point in the episode, actually you're watching this scene,

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Speaker 2: you're seeing unfold. Where's your mind at.

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Speaker 3: My mind is that she likes him too much to

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Speaker 3: have this be the last straw, because it's really the

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Speaker 3: first Strawstan.

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Speaker 2: There's ever been anything at all, even emotional in any

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Speaker 2: type of negative way. Is Again, as little as we

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Speaker 2: think this was a negative, this has been the first

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Speaker 2: time in their relationship, it was not. It was going

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Speaker 2: to be shocking to me. If Joey went home this week.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have expected it. Didn't see it coming, never

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Speaker 2: fully believed it could.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 2: Xavier hometown. Speaking of really sweet family dates, this is

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Speaker 2: definitely one of them. If you remember last week, Xavier

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Speaker 2: and Charity had a what I would say a very real,

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Speaker 2: difficult conversation about his experience mostly on the show, and

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Speaker 2: where he was at and where he thought he could

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Speaker 2: go and what he was worried about. He was I

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Speaker 2: don't think he snuck in to hometowns. In fact, I

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Speaker 2: would still say last week that Aaron b snuck into hometowns,

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Speaker 2: but there were questions about Xavier and Charity and where

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Speaker 2: their relationship would be going and could go. And so

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Speaker 2: with this hometown, I had a lot of anticipation as

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Speaker 2: I tuned in.

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Speaker 3: So first they go knit, which is cute. They went

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Speaker 3: to a knitting class. He taught her how to knit,

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Speaker 3: so like all the guys are trying to do like

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Speaker 3: their thing. It's like Joey did tennis and got to

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Speaker 3: touch her while teaching her form. The same thing is

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Speaker 3: happening here with Xavier holding her hands as they're learning

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Speaker 3: how Actually great pastime of this for her a first time.

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Speaker 3: Very sweet. And then they move on to the family portion,

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Speaker 3: and we are going to meet his mom, who we

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Speaker 3: know he's become a scientist because she has ms. The

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Speaker 3: woman lights up the room with her smile when she

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Speaker 3: sees charity. Everybody. This is another wonderful family. This sister

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Speaker 3: is freaking obsessed with charity. Xavier says one thing that

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Speaker 3: I was like a little bit of like a hmmm

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Speaker 3: for me. He says, I think Chelsea might like charity

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Speaker 3: more than may love charity more than I do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean I think in the past, like

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Speaker 2: I love Jessica's family. They are they I love them

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Speaker 2: a ton, And she used to like she's made a

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Speaker 2: joke about every single person and her family, like did

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Speaker 2: you marry me? Because of my dad, Did you marry

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Speaker 2: because of my mom? My brother's like, it's just a

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Speaker 2: it's a sweet joke. And I've made the same like

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Speaker 2: remarks back to her at times based on my family,

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Speaker 2: and I know where it comes from for me, and

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Speaker 2: I know where it comes from her. It's a place

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Speaker 2: of endearment because we are obviously so close with our

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Speaker 2: families and we love and respect our families a lot.

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Speaker 2: That when you find a partner who loves your family

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Speaker 2: equally as much and enjoys them equally as much, it

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Speaker 2: is like the sweetest thing to see and to be

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Speaker 2: a part of and to gift, And it's a big

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Speaker 2: answer to prayer. So I think Xavier says it with

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Speaker 2: like how cool is this? Like how fun is this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially since he said that his sister is really

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Speaker 3: protective and so charity. She sits down with the mom.

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Speaker 3: They have a great exchange. The thing that she really

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Speaker 3: learns from the sit downs with the sister and the

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Speaker 3: mom is that he is ready to be a husband

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Speaker 3: in a day that like all those things that he

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Speaker 3: was saying, you know, being scared about commitment is the

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Speaker 3: mom says, probably just because this is such a fast process.

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Speaker 3: And not that he has any fear of commitment, like

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Speaker 3: in general. And then he sits down with his dad

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Speaker 3: and they have this cute little convo about like, when

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Speaker 3: do you know that the person that you're with is

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Speaker 3: like the person that you should be with like forever,

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Speaker 3: like something that will last over thirty years, like you

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Speaker 3: and mom. And the guy just basically says, like, you

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Speaker 3: just know there's a feeling when you're with that person,

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Speaker 3: and the dad says that he says that he feels

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Speaker 3: like he sees that connection between the two of them,

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Speaker 3: and Xavier's saying that he feels like he can get

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Speaker 3: there with charity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny. I was so mad at my

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Speaker 2: dad for years. And I've said on the podcast before,

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Speaker 2: but I asked him once, how do you know when

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Speaker 2: you found the right person? And his advice back to

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Speaker 2: me was when you know you know? And I I

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Speaker 2: said it, and I was like, that's such a terrible answer,

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Speaker 2: and I joke the cliche, you know, But then I

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Speaker 2: hear all of these people in my life and I

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Speaker 2: watch it on television like The Bachelorette, and I see

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Speaker 2: people who love their sons and daughters, and that question

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Speaker 2: is usually asked in hometowns in some way or another,

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Speaker 2: And it always can kind of be summed up with

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Speaker 2: that same thing when you know, you know, and I

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Speaker 2: say it was true for my own life, I'd say

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Speaker 2: it was true based on conversations you and I have

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Speaker 2: had about your relationship. It's it's actually a very sweet thing,

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Speaker 2: because how do you describe love and how do you

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Speaker 2: describe that you found somebody that you believe you can

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Speaker 2: spend the rest of your life with. You just know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: They leave and Charity says that she just feels like

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Speaker 3: their relationship is elevating and she's walking away so good,

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Speaker 3: so good that she says that she can see him

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Speaker 3: as her husband, And I'm like, holy crap, holye, who

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Speaker 3: is leaving actually knowing that Dowton is coming? And You're like, well,

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Speaker 3: he's a shoeling.

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Speaker 2: I just want to make sure that I state this again.

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Speaker 2: From week one, Xavier has been my top choice favorite.

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Speaker 3: You love him, I love him too. He's great.

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Speaker 2: I think he's great. I have no spoilers, I have

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Speaker 2: no information on how this plays out, but I have

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Speaker 2: said since week one I believe that Xavier will be

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Speaker 2: the one standing at the end. And I still will

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Speaker 2: say that to this day.

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Speaker 3: I still don't know how you can say that with Donton.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but like, I don't know what it is

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Speaker 3: of me watching Charity and Dowton is like me watching

584
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Speaker 3: one of the greatest Bachelor love stories.

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Speaker 2: It's sweet.

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Speaker 3: I still think you're playing Devil's Out every week.

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Speaker 2: I'm not, and I'm fully aware that I could be

588
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: wrong here, and I'm with you that this could be

589
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Speaker 2: one of and at this point is one of the

590
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Speaker 2: Bachelor's greatest love stories from start to finish without any

591
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Speaker 2: issues along the way. But I think Xavier could be

592
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Speaker 2: that sneaky kind of There's just this theory that I

593
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: have in my head that there's no way the show

594
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: would make it this obvious for this long. But we're

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Speaker 2: getting far enough along in the show that I'm starting

596
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: to be convinced and know they just made it this

597
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: obvious for this long. But I've always been surprised at

598
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Speaker 2: some point, and with the relationship with Dotten, which we'll

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Speaker 2: get into right now, I have yet to have a

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Speaker 2: surprise where I'm like, no, this is just still really good.

601
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Speaker 3: So like there's just no drama you've never seen like

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Speaker 3: a drama free coupling in the end.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know if I could remember one. I mean,

604
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Speaker 2: let's go back, let's just do this little game. Second,

605
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: remember Zach and Katie, great love story, tons of drama, tons,

606
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: Kaylan Sean come to mind, beautiful love story during the season.

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Speaker 2: They really especially being there that it felt right, you know,

608
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Speaker 2: it felt like it was gonna work. Tons. I mean,

609
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Speaker 2: the most dramatic ever.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's do another married couple Jojo and Jordan. They

611
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: are tons of drama there, tons of duma, them always

612
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Speaker 3: being like Jordan's here for the wrong reasons one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and hometown are and the uh the date at

614
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Speaker 2: the very end with Robbie where the family was kind

615
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Speaker 2: of on Robbie's side saying I think guy like Robbie

616
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Speaker 2: and we're like, what are you thinking? And now we're yea,

617
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: now we're all like that was really bad.

618
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Speaker 3: Rachel and Brian, they convinced us she wanted Peter.

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Speaker 2: So it's just not the case where these love stories

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Speaker 2: play out without drama. And we're getting so far along

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Speaker 2: that drama I don't think is going to ensue and

622
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: we could be standing here being like, yeah, this couple

623
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Speaker 2: is just perfect for each other. I hope that's the case.

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Speaker 2: Let's go into his hometown. Though again, he's been at

625
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Speaker 2: the top of your list every week, He's been at

626
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Speaker 2: the top of most people's lists. People like him, people

627
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: enjoy people want to see his family where he comes from.

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Speaker 2: I remember on night one when he came in that

629
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Speaker 2: he said that most people in his life like like him,

630
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Speaker 2: like they kind of say that he is a likable guy.

631
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Speaker 2: And so obviously his family is very supportive and encouraging

632
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: because he believes that he is that man and I

633
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: think he is. So his family was an exciting one

634
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Speaker 2: for me to tune into.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is just the strong, silent type. There's definitely

636
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: a sex appeal about him. He's just like oods confidence.

637
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: And he tells her that it's such an unfortunate situation,

638
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: but her his parents are Nigeria. They go for four

639
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: to six weeks every year, and it just happens to

640
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Speaker 3: be this four to six weeks. They come over to

641
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Speaker 3: the house. The family's awesome. There seems so warm, really welcoming,

642
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: and then they go into the kitchen and meet his

643
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Speaker 3: grandma and this will and there's a gem to all

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Speaker 3: of us watching and to the earth. She's cooking up

645
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: a storm. She's too cute. She says that she sees

646
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Speaker 3: them as a match made in heaven right off the bat.

647
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Speaker 2: Now I want to get hers wording perfectly cricsuse. I

648
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Speaker 2: think it's so sweet. She said that she believes that

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Speaker 2: they are a match bonded from.

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Speaker 3: Heap, bonded in heaven.

651
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: That's beautiful, so gorgeous.

652
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: They go outside to eat and then his parents show up.

653
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm wondering. I'm like, ABC, you guys

654
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: better have sent them first class back home, and you

655
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: better be setting them first class back to Nigeria so

656
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: that like, yeah, because this is a commitment, you know,

657
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: like that's their their time there, that's what they're I'm

658
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: sure their extended family is. And they took a lot

659
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 3: of effort and probably money with a like halfway across

660
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: the world flight flight change.

661
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: Yes, it's not a short flight, that is a big flight.

662
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: I hope ABC treated them so well, but it is

663
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: so sweet to see them come in to see the

664
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: surprise and to have them there because you can tell

665
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: that Doton really really wants their input. And how weird

666
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: would it be if this all plays out like we

667
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 2: expected to and he never gets their input because they're

668
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: obviously a close family, it would be odd. So this

669
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: is beautiful.

670
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 3: Ben. I was so stressed that she wasn't going to

671
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: meet them because I knew how important it was to her.

672
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 3: Because I really, even though it's tricky at this point,

673
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: I really see the two of them together. I think

674
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: she does too, And she was like, I can't believe

675
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 3: that I'm going to get engaged in not having met

676
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: his parents, and now it's happening, they meet, it goes

677
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: over really well. He says that his mom is often

678
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 3: tough on the ladies he brings home, but she definitely

679
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: gets the stamp of approval and beyond when she says

680
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: that she's part of the family already, She's like already

681
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 3: accepted her as a daughter. I'm like, oh my gosh,

682
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: I got goose bumps when she said that. Anything.

683
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: Do you think they're seeing the same thing we're seeing? Like,

684
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 2: do you think her parents, because I mean from week one,

685
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: you were saying, hey, this is it and I wasn't convinced.

686
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: I'm still not convinced that it's gonna end up like

687
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: you think it will. But I you know, it's obviously

688
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: a good relationship. His parents know him well obviously, do

689
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: you think like immediately they can just be in the

690
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 2: presence of the two of them be like, yeah, this

691
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: is this is special, I think.

692
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: So I hope so for the woman to say, like,

693
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 3: I accept you as family. And she said, I have

694
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 3: a wedding for you that I am already basically mentally

695
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: planning for you in Nigeria. Uh yeah, she obviously sees it.

696
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 3: She literally said, if you choose my son, I will

697
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: have a huge wedding for you.

698
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: Come on, let's go.

699
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: Well it's so freaking cute. Everything about this is amazing.

700
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 3: And the grandma just like hurt just her presence every

701
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: time she's on the screen amazing And I have to

702
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: like just talk about the little clip at the end

703
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: of the credits when the mom gives her gifts, so

704
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 3: she's giving charity gifts. She gives her a necklace like

705
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: a dress, all from Africa, and then at the end

706
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: she goes this beaded thing. She goes, that's for you

707
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 3: putting around your waist in the bedroom. And then the

708
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: sister goes, my mother, you'll learn is very giving.

709
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah.

710
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: Funny's so cute. All right, So love this love everything

711
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: about it seriously goosebumps at multiple scenes. And then they

712
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 3: go to the drive in movies and they have kind

713
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: of what we saw last season with Rachel and Zach,

714
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: where it's like a movie of the two of them

715
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: throughout time and at the end there's pictures of the

716
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: two of them together and Charity is just like so emotional. Hm.

717
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: I like this date. Do you remember? I like this

718
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: date last season. I think this could be a staple date.

719
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: I like seeing the pictures. I like seeing the reaction.

720
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 2: I think it's very real, it's very cute. I could

721
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 2: watch this date most seasons because I think it brings

722
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 2: out like a vulnerability too between the two people connection.

723
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. And when you go over to Jesse's house, do

724
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: you like looking at old pictures of her old photo albums? Uh?

725
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did, just I did actually this trip because

726
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: we were there for a baby shower and so we're

727
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: pulling out old baby pictures and see the best you've

728
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: learned about you mean you learn about them, right? You

729
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: learn about how you know the experiences they had?

730
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: Yes, you tell stories. Yeah, it's great based on the photos.

731
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: It's an easy convo starter.

732
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: Definitely all right.

733
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: Well, then Charity goes and talks to Jesse, who, like

734
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: I was saying, I was expecting Chris and the bottom,

735
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: you know. To sum up this conversation, it's holy crap.

736
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 3: I pretty much, I pretty much cold say. I'm falling

737
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: in love with all four of these guys, and every

738
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: hometown was wonderful. I see them all as husband material,

739
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 3: and it just confuses us more as to who she's

740
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: going to eliminate.

741
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: Well, I think at this point I'm still convinced Aaron's

742
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: going home. The only reason I say that is because

743
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: nobody moved down this week other than possibly Joey. Yeah, sure,

744
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: down other than Joey. But I didn't think it was

745
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: enough to send him home. I know, And I've I've

746
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: thought for two weeks, now, more than two weeks that

747
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: at some point Aaron was going home. And so I

748
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: think I've just had this build in idea that Aaron

749
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: was going home. Even though you're right, all four of

750
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: them this week, shine bright, they pull it off.

751
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: What you have to do is just think like, Okay,

752
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 3: is it Aaron that like got me this week? Or

753
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: is it Aaron's family that got me? And really it

754
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 3: was it was the whole family experience.

755
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: Sure that makes sense. Yeah, well, the conversation with Jesse,

756
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: it feels very similar to conversations in the past. This

757
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: is there's a moment every sea that I love and

758
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: I don't know why I love it. Actually, I love

759
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: when the people walk into the Rose ceremony after hometowns

760
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: and after Fantasy Suites because I believe we're kind of

761
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: looking at the hall of fame of the season and

762
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: it's a very relaxed vibe. When Jesse greets them and

763
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: they say hello, Jesse, and how are you. I'm doing good.

764
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: You know, it's less It just feels more into a.

765
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 3: Game show moment.

766
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: Yes, it's that's it. It's less of a game show

767
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: moment and more of a personal like, Hey, I remember

768
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 2: these moments from your season, and it's gonna be weird

769
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: now for me to see you go home because we

770
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: have connected with you as a contestant and we have

771
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: connected with your relationship with Charity. It is less of

772
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 2: a game show moment. It is more personal and there's

773
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: I just really like the entries. It's weird, but I

774
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: like the entries.

775
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 3: I do too bad, I do too And I love

776
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: it when they do a rose ceremony at this airport, airplace, hangar,

777
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 3: wherever this might be. It really adds to the drama

778
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: and just like the sexiness to it all, sure does

779
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: all right. Well, when we see Aeron go home and

780
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: he was very emotional, he says that he's like holding

781
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 3: back tears and oh, it really got he got me.

782
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 3: You know, this episode he got me and he hasn't

783
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: got me all season.

784
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's an emotional exit for him. I

785
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: think he really likes Charity. I think some of his

786
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: behavior in the you know, protection of Charity and the

787
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: kind of like the anti Braden camp leading that I

788
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: think did come from a place where he just really

789
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: liked Charity, and I wasn't convinced of that most of

790
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: the season. I think this episode really solidified that a

791
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: lot of that kind of protection came from the fact

792
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: that he really believed that him and Charity could be

793
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: together and should be together at the end, which is

794
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: tough to see him go home, but it's also I

795
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: do think the one relationship that was most expected to

796
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: end it was it.

797
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 3: Was and I just really want to see him like

798
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: have success in Paradise now.

799
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I think he Will. I think he's gonna gonna

800
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: be great, but Aaron b Is going home, which leads

801
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: us leaves us with Doughton, Xavier, and Joey. Moving into

802
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: the next week, which is Fantasy Suits Week. It is

803
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: always an interesting week. There always seems to be something

804
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: pop up in Fantasy Suites Week that is shocking, surprising, different,

805
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: and it has helped most relationships on this show either

806
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: be solidified or end and we can pull back many

807
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: moments in Bachelor history for that well, actually we do

808
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: have Bachelor headlines to get to. This has been another

809
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 2: breakdown of Charity season of The Bachelor.

810
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: Right.

811
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: We're loving this episode, Ashley between Joey and Xavier, which

812
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: one falls second, because I know where you feel is first.

813
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 3: Then what I don't know? I don't know, and I'm

814
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: having fun with the fact that I don't know. I

815
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 3: just put a wild goose out, especially to humor you

816
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 3: and say that Xavier gets farther than Joey because maybe

817
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: the Joey thing. Next week, something weird happens. I also

818
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 3: am very curious to know who shows up that Charity

819
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 3: is mind blown by her brother. Oh you think so,

820
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 3: I don't know.

821
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: We'll see Hey, it's signed for Bachelor headlines. Let's jump

822
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 2: into it. The first headline is this Bachelor in Paradise.

823
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 2: Is Raven and Adam revealed baby number two's name?

824
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: Yes?

825
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 3: They also they also released the sex because we didn't

826
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: know if it was a girl or boy once you

827
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: get at birth last week it is Max Asa gotstock

828
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 3: and the baby boy obviously is was eight pounds, two

829
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: outs one ounce when he was born last Monday wasn't

830
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: Sunday or Monday. Yeah, so, oh my god. You have

831
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: to see Raven's instagram for just the cutest videos of Gates,

832
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: who's one and a half, interact with baby Max. Really

833
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: two freaking cute.

834
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: Very sweet. Well, next headline is this Serena Pitt reveals

835
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 2: why no Bachelor Nation stars were at her bachelorette party.

836
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 3: It's not very dramatic, guys, It's just that she's like, hey,

837
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 3: guess what. I went on The Bachelor two and a

838
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: half years ago. I was close to those girls, but

839
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: these are the crew of my closest friends, most of

840
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 3: whom I've known for eight plus years. So I will

841
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: have Bachelor Nation friends at the wedding, but this was

842
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: my core group.

843
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: That makes sense. Well, That's all the headlines we have

844
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: for you today. A very quiet week in Bachelor Nation.

845
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: Not a lot of drama, not a lot of stories happening,

846
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 2: but we'll have more next week. I'm sure they always

847
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: are existing. But until next week, I've been Ben, I've

848
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 2: been Ashley.

849
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 3: See you guys.

850
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,640
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851
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,880
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