1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: What are we even doing? What are we even doing? 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to what are we even doing? We are rolling. 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Maclaughlan, your host for the day. This is 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: a program where were sitting down with actors, musicians, creatives 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: of all type and we talk about their process, what 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: moves them in the crazy and wild world of social media. 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: And today we have a very very special guest. I'm 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: so excited Noah Beck is here and you are. You're 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: an actor, your influencer, you are, like I don't know, 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: you're a champion of the Internet as far as I 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: cans are. You make me feel both kind of cool 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: that you're here and very old at the same time. 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: But welcome. I'm so glad you're here. Thanks, thank you 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: for coming in. Man from not too far away, you said, 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: West Hollywood, So that's not too bad. I know. I 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: just rolled down out of the hills and here we 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: are a little studio undo these chairs. You got the comfy, 18 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: cozy heart that you're. 19 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: Sure do Like I was saying, I feel bad for 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: not having it on displays. 21 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, I got my hands here just in 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: case for coming for people are going to go like, 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 1: what the hell. 24 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: Is going on? 25 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 26 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: Well, welcome, welcome. I want to start. I want to 27 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: ask you a little bit about kind of how you started, 28 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, kind of maybe that first spark of like wow, 29 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm actually this is something that I like or that 30 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm good at, or how did you find yourself kind 31 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: of falling down the rabbit hole of social media? Was 32 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: there a beginning? 33 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: Do that? 34 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: What do you think? 35 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: I mean, there was a beginning, but it's so hard 36 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: to like, No, it's actually quite easy to pinpoint when 37 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: it was. The start was it was COVID and like, okay, 38 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: I grew up my whole life playing soccer, and so 39 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: the very athletic background. I played just about every sport, 40 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 2: but whenever soccer wasn't season, that was priority. 41 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: And you started when you were a kid, imagine like. 42 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: Three, since I could since I could stand. Yeah, so 43 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: that was my passion. 44 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: That was my love. 45 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to do. There was really no 46 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: plan B in that sense, but it was more, Yeah, 47 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: that's just what I wanted to do. That's where my 48 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: heart was. My dad was also a coach of my 49 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: local high schools growing up, so he had definitely some 50 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: influence on that. 51 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: Here of course, of course, was he a soccer player 52 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: as well? I mean was he was? 53 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: He grew up more baseball, funny enough, but then he 54 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: fell into the coaching and you know then has been 55 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: coaching the local He just retired this year from coaching, 56 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: but he's coaching for just over thirty years. 57 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: That is such like a noble amazing thing because I'm 58 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: sure he was a great coach. 59 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 60 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: Man, the kind of influence that that can have on kids, 61 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: you know, particularly if it's if it's a positive thing, 62 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: if it's an encouraging thing. And I had that experience 63 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: when I was growing up, you know, when I was 64 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: like the ten eleven, twelve, thirteen, and we had a 65 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: coach he just was he was kind of like that 66 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: tough but compassionate. So you'd work really hard, but he 67 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: always like would give you a kind of a hug, 68 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: you know around your shoulder pads. 69 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 70 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really important. 71 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: I think a coach and a parent in my case 72 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: that can tiptoe on that line and can really yeah, 73 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: be that guy that pushes you but then also will 74 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: be the first one to hug you after a loss. 75 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: And so I think he was that for me, and 76 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: it's amazing because my I come from like a family 77 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 2: of educators. Funny enough, both my parents are teachers as well, 78 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: and my sister. Both my sisters got their degrees and 79 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: teaching oh oh wow, yeah, and one of them's pursuing 80 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: it now. The other one did a year of it 81 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: and was like not for me, which what grade was 82 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: she teaching? 83 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: She wanted to teach English high school. 84 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: Oh so there was not like that's tough all that 85 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: to say. 86 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: March March or twenty twenty was when we kind of 87 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: got the blast email when I was walking at campus 88 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: and just we all looked at our phones, like I 89 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: remember this, like I remember it so vividly because it 90 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: felt like a scene out of a movie where everyone 91 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: looked at their phones like we got like an amber 92 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: alert or something. 93 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 94 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: It looked around and we were like, you guys getting 95 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: this too? Am I getting pranked? 96 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: And it was like need to evacuate campus. 97 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: I first thought was we're getting pranked here or something 98 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: was happening. Yeah, Like it didn't. 99 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: Feel real, it was, yeah, and it was so out 100 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: of the blue, and I just from remember being like 101 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: all right, well, surely this will blow over in a week, 102 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: not really knowing what to expect. Yeah, of course not 103 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: and in hindsight, not realizing that it would be a 104 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: two year thing. 105 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: So you were on track playing soccer at school, yes, 106 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: and you were like, this is going to be my 107 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: life and it's a D one school I think, right, yeah, 108 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: which is pretty intense. Yeah, And I imagined the training, 109 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: which was pretty I mean, that's discipline. 110 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: You got to have this truly, And yeah, I think, 111 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: like I said, it was a mix of my dad 112 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: kind of being that influence on me growing up, and 113 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: then a culmination of all my coaches. I think from 114 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: being a kid. I loved it, like I loved the 115 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: hard work. I loved the competitiveness. I loved every training 116 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: feeling like nothing's given and it has to be earned. 117 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: And I think I've definitely, in ways that may or 118 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 2: may not be healthy, have translated that to my life 119 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: now without having the. 120 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: Well I'm curious about it. I'm curious about that because 121 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: if you grew up with that kind of discipline, we're 122 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: talking about social media and the kind of demands that 123 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: that makes on your time, I can only imagine. I mean, 124 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm just scratching the surface here, and I'm finding it's 125 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: a you know, It's a not a full time job 126 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: in my case, but it takes a lot of time 127 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: and energy, and not just from me, but the people 128 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: that I work with, some of whom are here in 129 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: the room with me right now, and they work hard, 130 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, just to sort of stay current and 131 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: relevant and you know, in the world. So I was 132 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: saying as you were talking about that that discipline that 133 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: you have for playing soccer, because it's you know, it's 134 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: every day, yeah, and it's focused. You kind of have 135 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: to bring that, seems like into this world of social media, 136 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: which you you've created this, I mean, you've got you've 137 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: covered so many different things and you've done many many 138 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: different things already. Thinking of sway, of course, I mean 139 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: that was living your life, and you know, I mean 140 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 1: it's that was a little different than living in a dorm. 141 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean there were similarities, but yeah, 142 00:05:59,480 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 3: it was. 143 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, if that was leaning towards the question of like 144 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: what was that like, it was my experience of living 145 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: in a it was a frat house, and it was 146 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: very much that. And then you throw in a lot 147 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: more money than we should have been making us. 148 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, very very helpful. Exactly make good choices exactly. 149 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: It was just everything was like just heightened at that time. 150 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: The drama that if it were happening at any other 151 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: high school or any other college in or any town 152 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: or whatever it is, the drama that would happen between 153 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: our house and the other house, and just like that 154 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: world and that time of Creators, everything was just so heightened. 155 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: Like someone would you know, people would date similar people 156 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: and then it would it was just stuff that happens, 157 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: but because we were in the spotlight, it was just 158 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: like the biggest news ever. And then all of a sudden, Yeah, 159 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: going from a dorm room and like there's no training 160 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: for that, and there's no like preparation you can do 161 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: to all of a sudden like be in la and 162 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: have like seeing like glares of camera lenses from like 163 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: paparazzi and it's what do you want from me? Yeah? Yeah, 164 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: it was. 165 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: It was pretty It was pretty surreal. 166 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: And that did you handle because I know, I mean, 167 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: you've you've spoken about you're pretty shy person, you know 168 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. In your life, you know what I mean. 169 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: But at the same time, here you are, did you 170 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: just jump in and say, yeah, what the heck was 171 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: try this was it one of the just like sounds fun. 172 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's funny. We've been kind of like 173 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: going back to COVID when it first kind of happened, 174 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: and then the pandemic hit and we got sent home. 175 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: I went back to Arizona, which is where I'm from, 176 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: and then purely out of boredom, just started posting on 177 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: social media and just started. It started with the silly 178 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: little uh a little bet with my sister being an 179 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: annoying younger brother. I was like, I bet I can 180 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: get more followers than you on TikTok and she was like, 181 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: I don't do it for that, and I was like, 182 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to do it for that. And so there 183 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: was some out of body experiences that I was like, 184 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: in hindsight, like what right, what led me to posting that? 185 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: Or I don't know, it was when you. 186 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: Spoke about waking up one morning and suddenly you had 187 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: like twenty thousand something. 188 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: Just yeah this that day that I posted that video, 189 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: I posted at night and then woke up and it 190 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: literally twenty thousand followers, And it was did you think. 191 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: Of like, oh, I'm going to do something like another 192 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: influence out there or somebody that you had seen or 193 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: you said, oh, I kind of like this and maybe 194 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: I'll do something in the same vein or for. 195 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: That first video, I don't know what I was. I 196 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: think I looked up just I don't know. I did 197 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: my research and I looked at what other people my 198 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: age were doing, and you know, guys that looked similar 199 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 2: to me. I was like, what's working out there? And 200 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 2: I was like, I can copy this, And the thought 201 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: of my coach potentially seeing this, my teammates potentially seeing this, 202 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: like didn't even cross my mind. And so it was 203 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: just like, yeah, I'm gonna do this and set up 204 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: my phone used like my sister's laptop as like my 205 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: ring light like low, hey, less is more in that sense, 206 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: and so I just I think it was a I 207 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: think it was a Meg Thee Stallion song featuring right 208 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: Oh that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, as my first video, 209 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: and it was very uh. I think I threw in 210 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: some really bad transitions in there, but something happened and 211 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 2: something worked. 212 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: Well. Yeah, the camera loves you, first of all. That's 213 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: a nice thing. That's you never know until you sort 214 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: of get out there, and you never know how is 215 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: it going to translate? Through the lens. So that's that's 216 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: that's a cool story. 217 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty true. 218 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: That's that's pretty cool. So you're in Portland, you were 219 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: at school, you went back, you went back to Arizona 220 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: to kind of wait out COVID thing, and then did 221 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: you sort of say at some point, hey, I gotta 222 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: go to l A or was there a yeah, back 223 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: to Portland or how did how how did that work? 224 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? So fast forward from that video from that night 225 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: three months and you know this, this is gonna sound ridiculous, 226 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: but like four or five million followers later in those 227 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: three months, which. 228 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: Is that's incredible. 229 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: It was surreal. 230 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: But it also again if it was just a number 231 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: on a phone, because I didn't know, it was so 232 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: foreign to me, Like this concept and just like seeing 233 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: how that would translate to real life didn't even like 234 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: apply to me yet. 235 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: And so it was when I started. 236 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: To receive emails and dms from brands other influencers at 237 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: the time and being like, Yo, we should work together, 238 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 2: or Yo, we should collab, you should come hang out 239 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: with us. It was just like this thing that was 240 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: so I was like, look, I'm just waiting for that 241 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: email to come back to school, like I just want 242 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 2: play soccer. And then that email never came and it 243 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 2: really just felt like this lightning in a bottle moment 244 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 2: and I don't know, all you have is your instinct, 245 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: and I had this weird feeling in me that I 246 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: was like, all right, well soccer is going to be there. 247 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: Like I'm not all of a sudden just gonna lose 248 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: all my ability over the span of a month if 249 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: I decide to go out to LA and give this 250 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: a shot. Yeah, And that's what I did, and yeah, 251 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 2: it was pretty It was pretty surreal like that. I 252 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: remember that first month in LA in June to kind 253 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: of like test the waters, and not even not even 254 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: with the thought of I'm. 255 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: Going to live out here and I'm gonna do this thing. 256 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 2: It was more of just like I'll go out there 257 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: for like a week, hang out with these guys that 258 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: have been texting me basically being like you should come 259 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: over and like we should make videos. 260 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: So there's one that they just sort of said you, Hey, 261 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: whence you come out. Did you like consult with anybody 262 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: or like, oh who should parents? Yeah, I mean that's 263 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: the best, right, Yeah. 264 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, mom, dad, like there's some guys 265 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: on TikTok that are like some of the most fallowed 266 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: guys in the app, and they want to hang out 267 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: with me, like should and were they like, yeah, they're 268 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: like pumped the brakes, so what do you mean? And 269 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 2: I was like, look, I don't know what I mean. 270 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: But it feels like a good thing and they supporting you. 271 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: And ultimately I had to kind of go through the 272 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: channels here and I had to. 273 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: I was like, guys, is there an. 274 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: Adult I think they're all early twenties. I was like, 275 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: is there an adult round when you guys have a 276 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: manager or something my parents can talk to to like 277 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: exactly and. 278 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: Somebody with a prefrontal cortex exactly. 279 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: Okay, I developed in there, and fortunately there was, and 280 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: they spoke to him, and who they spoke to on 281 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: the phone is now my manager to this day, wow, 282 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: which is great. So yeah, he basically eased their nerves 283 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: and he was like, look, your son is doing really 284 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: well on this app. And I was like I was 285 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: sitting hearing this and I was like, doing really well. 286 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: Like I'm posting stupid videos. It's strictly out of like 287 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: building a hole. 288 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I was. 289 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: All these videos were fueled by my boredom during COVID, 290 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: and I think that's where I don't know if I 291 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: was a consumer, I guess that's where the authenticity shined. 292 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: Through because there was no niche. 293 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 2: There was no like one video I'd be dancing in 294 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: the bathroom shirtless, and then one would be baking with 295 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: my mom, and then one would be soccer video and 296 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: it was just all over the place and so and 297 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: then I like love to dabble with like the acting 298 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: audios and stuff like that. Yeah, So like I think 299 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: I found a weird love for that through. 300 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Well it was super authentic. Yeah, which I think that's 301 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: the one thing that I've learned during this process is 302 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: if you're just yourself, you know, Yeah, there's just really 303 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: people respond to that. Yeah, either they recognize a kindred 304 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: spirit or they just appreciate the fact that you're being here. 305 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: I am you know, kind of works on all of that. 306 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: I look great, you look great, you know what I mean, 307 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: You're like, this is meeah and putting it out there. 308 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: It sounds like it's a very creative process for you. 309 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: Was it something that was there other thing that pointed 310 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: towards that When you were younger, did you have like 311 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: a creative side or you know. 312 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: It's funny because I've recently been thinking about this because, 313 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: like I said, my parents and my whole family are 314 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: educators and I ironically dropped out of So that's kind 315 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: of exactly there you go. But it was to pursue this, 316 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: and it was I don't know, it's not even that 317 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: anyone in my family was like overly creative. It's not 318 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 2: even in hindsight that I was. It was more they 319 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 2: instilled this like curiosity into me. I think being teachers, 320 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: they like I never want to stop learning, and the 321 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: moment that I mean the day that I assume that 322 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: I have it all figured out, I need someone to 323 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: come and slap me because it's far from the truth. 324 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: And I just love learning. 325 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: I love being curious, and I love because I don't 326 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: know what's the latter, Like why would I want to be? 327 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I see that. And because you said, you know, 328 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: you post all these different things and curiosity, I think 329 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: is they think it keeps us young. I mean, for 330 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: goodness sake. I mean you are young, h but it's 331 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: a thing whereas you get older and older, you just 332 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: you want to keep learning. All the people that I successful, 333 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: people older, successful, even middle aged anywhere, are all curious. 334 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: So you know, you can be eighty five years old 335 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: and you're still curious about something and you stay young. 336 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: And it's kind of funny enough. It's why I'm here 337 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: doing this podcast, which is something unexpected and unusually. I'm 338 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: curious about a generation that I don't know that much about, 339 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: so nowhere here chatting about it, and you're telling me 340 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: what it's like to be an influencer. Would you just 341 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: call yourself an influence or what would you say? I 342 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: don't know, Maybe that's not the right. 343 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: Is there ever a right word? 344 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: Like, I don't know. 345 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: I think I've literally had talks with my with my 346 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: publicist about this. When people ask my title, what do 347 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: I give them? Because I mean, I guess that's a 348 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: good thing because I like to just do different things. 349 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: So it's not like I hope it's not an egotistical thing, 350 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: but it's more of just like, like, I don't know, 351 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: maybe a creator and a. 352 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: Creator is a good word that I was going to 353 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: say that or and with that course comes to a responsibility. 354 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: But I feel like you're really tapped into that. Maybe 355 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: that's part of the jig from a family of educators, 356 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: have responsibility to what you put out there. You know, 357 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: it's fun, maybe there's something you're something or showing something 358 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: or you know, but you I think I feel like 359 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: you you lead by example, you know, and I think 360 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: that's that's that's the strongest way to lead honestly. Yeah, 361 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, you know, I watched you cooking videos. I'm 362 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: a I like to cook as well. Love it is 363 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: that your mom, dad, sister is your own thing. 364 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: I mean, they're gonna kill me neither. 365 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: To be honest, I don't. 366 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: Have them make dinner. No no, no, no, okay. 367 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: Well, funny enough. 368 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: Growing up, my dad every every once in a blue 369 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: moon would hop on the grill and it was like 370 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: one of my favorite nights because I love grilled food 371 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, and my mom, I mean, bless her heart, 372 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: she was not the best cook. 373 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: And she knows. We have that in comment. 374 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 375 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: I think that that came later in life, because I 376 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: don't think I wasn't exactly whipping it up in my 377 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: dorm room in Portland either, and I wasn't doing that 378 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: at home, and so I think it honestly came when 379 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: I started to live on my own. Yeah, the uber 380 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: eats apps started to kind of run up, and I 381 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: was like, yet, I gotta cut back on this and 382 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: maybe learn how to cook a little. And so I've 383 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: really enjoyed it, and I've almost kind of like romanticized 384 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: cooking at home and like it's kind of a nice 385 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: therapeutic thing that I like to like set up. 386 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: Like meditation, I think for sure, completely completely takes your 387 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: time and focus. 388 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. Like I said, it's fun just like 389 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: romanticizing it and just kind of like doing it. And 390 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: it's like this like self care that you can kind 391 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: of do that these little things that you can do 392 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: to help better yourself tomorrow. And like, yeah, I'm big 393 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: on that. And it's not that everything in life, because 394 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: there's that I'm constantly playing Devil's Advocate with myself with everything, 395 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: trying to always look at like two sides of a 396 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: coin of like, all right, well I need to eat 397 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: super clean because tomorrow, like myself will be thanking me, 398 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: et cetera. But then I'm like, okay, well, not everything 399 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: that I eat needs to be like for betterment, like 400 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: you can give a little and so yeah, I found 401 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: myself doing that quite a lot with just like mundane 402 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: things in life. I'm like, not everything needs to be 403 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 2: this stress on, like am I going to regret it tomorrow? 404 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: Et cetera. 405 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: And so you have a war, a little bit of 406 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 1: a war. I don't know. I'm OCD for sure, and 407 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: I battle that all the time. Yeah, decisions, you know 408 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: what I mean? And is it the right decision? 409 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: Is just good? 410 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: It's just bad? And sometimes you just go, I don't 411 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: want to I don't want to battle anymore. Exactly go forward, 412 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, exactly did you think about everything? And I 413 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: also think too. I mean, I don't know if it 414 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: comes out in the posting that you do, but you know, 415 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: there's a perfectionist thing that I have and I've had 416 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: to really just let that go. Thank you to my 417 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: team really help me. And they're like, say, it's great, Yeah, 418 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: let it be. And I think in some ways that's 419 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: what people want to see. They want to see the 420 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, not that everything's perfect. You know, you just 421 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: have fun with it, you know. 422 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. There is almost this like responsibility to make your 423 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: life seem glamorous or in ways like with the filter 424 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: on it. And I've learned to kind of just peel 425 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: peel that back, and I've almost learned that the more 426 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 2: I feel that like back, the better it seems. 427 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, like yes, things can still be. 428 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 2: Curated, but like not in like a perfected yea, it's 429 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 2: like this controlled. 430 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: Well, I think they may. I think you're you're in 431 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: this process and I know acting is something that you're 432 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: pursuing heavily, and that what you describe is exactly what 433 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: you do as an actor. Right, you start pulling off 434 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: these layers of this person of yourself and you start 435 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: showing things maybe not so proud of, but there are 436 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: things that are part of the human experience, which I think, Yeah, 437 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: it's just it's this process and then getting to the 438 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: point where you can actually go, Okay, you may see 439 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: some things in me that you're not going to like, 440 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: but you know, within the confines of the character, that's 441 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: who this person is and have no judgment on it. 442 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: So this is just who this person is and that's 443 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: what I'm playing, you know, And I think as you 444 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: go on this journey which you're on, I just encourage 445 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: you to continue to do that, to pull back that stuff, 446 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: you know, because it's that's the gold. 447 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, no, that's I mean that's really well put. 448 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 2: It kind of goes back to the never stop learning 449 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 2: kind of mantra of it all. It's like, I feel 450 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: like I'm constantly just exploring things, whether it's about myself, 451 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: whether it's about a character, and like really embracing it 452 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: and figuring out, like why is it that I'm this 453 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: way or the character is that way? And so I 454 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: think there's yeah, there's a lot to unpackt there. Yeah, 455 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: I think it's fun to do that. 456 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the journey. You're talking earlier about something and 457 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: I think about the frat stuff, and I remember thinking 458 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: part of what I was also in a frat for 459 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: a short period of time, which I wasn't really ready for. 460 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: But it was good. It was a good experience where 461 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: that was at the University of Washington. Okay, yeah, I 462 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: was a beta up there. Amazing, it was really Yeah, 463 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: it is amazing because you don't look at me. I'm like, 464 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 1: he doesn't look like a beta to me. But anyway, 465 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: they let me in somehow. But I don't think I 466 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: was ready for I don't think it was I could 467 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: handle it funny enough. And then I was thinking about 468 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: the team being on a team sport as soccer as 469 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: a team sport. And then you were talking about the 470 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: experience of being in with Sway and with your group, 471 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: and I feel like it's something that as an actor 472 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: I really enjoy. I enjoy the the group effort. I 473 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: enjoy having partners, you know, around, and we're this little team, 474 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: this little band of people, you know, and that, and 475 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: we're like the circus, you know what I mean. It's 476 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: like everyone's working together for like a greater a greater good, 477 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, a better a better thing. We're trying to 478 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: create something special, you know, and I really love that. 479 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's something you share as you know, 480 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: you talked about of course your film on to B Yeah, yeah, yeah, 481 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: Sideline exactly, and there's a new one to Yes. I 482 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: don't know if that was something the experience of that 483 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: working together with crew and actors and everything with something 484 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: that you really responded. 485 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 2: No, it's actually crazy. You took the words exactly right 486 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: out of my mouth. That is something that I mean 487 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: because when I first kind of felt like acting as 488 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: something that I'd like to explore, I was was kind 489 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 2: of a naive, delusional thought of mine that I was like, oh, well, 490 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: people seem to like me on this small screen, right, 491 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: maybe that'll translate to a big screen, right, And like 492 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: it was part of that, and it was almost this 493 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: like liberating thing of like I'm a little tired sometimes 494 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: of being Noah Beck. Like it's like like I want 495 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: to be someone else. I want to live in someone 496 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: else's shoes, and like maybe there will be something that 497 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: I enjoy about that process. And honestly, like call it ego, 498 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: ego or whatever, but I was like, and yeah, the 499 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 2: the ring of being a movie star has got a 500 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: nice like shit to it. I was like, that's a 501 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: cool title. But all that to say, like I did 502 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: what I know how I'm wired. I was just like, 503 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: all right, well I got to become a student to 504 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: this and I got a train at it. So it 505 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: was a mix of like what my parents instilled into 506 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: me and then the athletic background of like I'm gonna 507 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: work my ass off and continue to explore this thing 508 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: that I know nothing about, Like I didn't grow up 509 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: doing theater, and so there was like this chip on 510 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: my shoulder to consume everything and just be a sponge 511 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: because I know nothing about this and so talking to 512 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: people like yourself and just people that are experienced in 513 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 2: this space. I'm like, I love hearing their experience because 514 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: what I've learned about it is that it's so not 515 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 2: one size fits all and everyone has their own process. 516 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, that is word for word what I fell 517 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 2: in love with it. It was purely the collaboration. I 518 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is what I've been missing for 519 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 2: because social media. 520 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: As you know, you and the camera, you know, yeah, 521 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: it's it. 522 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: Can be as lonely or as collaborative as you make it. 523 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 2: And yeah, but with a movie, it takes a village 524 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: and it takes like I just loved it. I fell 525 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: in love with everyone coming together and all for that 526 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: final product. Yeah. 527 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I like about it too. 528 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 2: Loved it. You know what's really funny. I get this 529 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: question in the past month like three or four times. 530 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: Like I got chirped the other day on like on 531 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 2: the street, this group of like I think it was 532 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 2: from young like baseball team. I was walking in like 533 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: Manhattan Beach like with one of my friends, right, and 534 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: they were all like renegade for us, And I was like, 535 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: come on, and I'm like, are we not past this? 536 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: But well, you know what's really funny and like there's 537 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: you can. My digital footprint is insane, So like good 538 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: luck finding it, but also like you won't because I've 539 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: actually never done the Renegade whatever. You couldn't find it. 540 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: There is no I've never done the the best it was, 541 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: it was slightly behind. It was slightly before my time. 542 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: Like I think it was like a really trending dance 543 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: like on right around that time, like May or April 544 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: or May of twenty twenty, and so it was yeah, 545 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: so it was right. Yeah, I wasn't exactly doing a 546 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: ton of dances when I was back home, and I 547 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 2: think I started to dance more and do just like 548 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: fun ones with like the Sway Boys and so this 549 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 2: was like azy TikTok and so like he was not 550 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: doing the Renegade and so like by the time I 551 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 2: came to La, there were other dances, but there are 552 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 2: other Renegade is. 553 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 3: Very complicated, crazy ones. 554 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've tried dances. I've tried. 555 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: You've done some dances. 556 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: This is a disaster. That's okay, that's okay, but that's 557 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: part of the fun. It's good things rise the top 558 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 1: and things that are not so good. It's like what 559 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: I do in my dancing. 560 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, all that matters is that you're having fun. 561 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean at the end of the day, yes, 562 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: exactly exactly. How are you finding it? Like being on 563 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: social media and doing the podcast? 564 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: Like, I am really enjoying it really, Yeah, just having 565 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: you here having a conversation. You know, I've been doing this, 566 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: I've I've got a few under my belt, really and 567 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know how I was going to react, but 568 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: I'm I am thoroughly enjoying it. I always say, you know, 569 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: I know, like my heroes, people that I followed, I 570 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: was coming up as an actor, you know, I was 571 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: looking at Marlon Brando. I was even looking at James 572 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: Dean and Cliff some of the older and I was 573 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: I was focused on theater. Yeah, so that was kind 574 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: of where I was going. Yeah, I don't know what's coming, 575 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, generations behind you know what I mean, that's 576 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: the people that are coming up and the waves that 577 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: are coming. I see names and I'm like, I don't 578 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: know who these people are. Yeah, like you know, I 579 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: should I can have broaden my my understanding of things. Said, 580 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: let's let's look and see and talk with people that 581 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: are creatives that are coming from a from another time, 582 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, and figure out hear their story and what's important. 583 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: Especially with the advent of social media now it's such 584 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: as such a huge impact on everything and how it's 585 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: being used by the people that actually grew up with it. 586 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: You know, you have a facility with it. Yeah, I 587 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: don't necessarily have, but I'm trying to learn. Yeah, it 588 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: goes back to learning. 589 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: I was just about to out. I was just going 590 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: to say, like, yeah, even like it doesn't matter how 591 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: old you are, it's like you just can never be 592 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: so stagnant in your ways, and I think it's really 593 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: cool that you're doing. 594 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: This, and it's like thank you. 595 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, And having listened to a few of the episodes, 596 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: like I love Dylan O'Brien. 597 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: Like he's great. 598 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, never met him. I'm just a big fan of 599 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: his work and. 600 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: I hate him absolutely. 601 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: You guys had such a good report. He's awesome, and 602 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: like being a fan of his work via via movies 603 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: or whatever. And there's some other interviews that I've seen 604 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 2: of his that I'm like, it seems like a cool 605 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: guy off off set as well. But having listened to 606 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: your guys interview, I'm like, oh, this just confirms like, 607 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: it's cool when you get a little bit more of 608 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: an insider on some of these people. But I feel 609 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: that i'm a little too. I think there are some 610 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: people that if they want to, they can know me 611 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 2: better than I know myself via online because I just 612 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: share so much. Everything is out there. Everything is out there, 613 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: and I think, yeah, I'm coming up at a different 614 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 2: time where social media you can choot pick and choose 615 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 2: what you share, but I've just chose to be an 616 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 2: open book online and so yeah, pretty much everything about 617 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 2: me is online. 618 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing when you think about it. It's scary, yeah, 619 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: but it's different. I mean, you're in I gotta uncharted territory, honestly. 620 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: And so I feel like again playing the Devil's Advocate, 621 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: Like there's so many drawbacks in this episode, but it's 622 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: it's so funny because I think going back, I'm like, well, 623 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: this is cool because I could kind of be a 624 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: pioneer in this space of like I really want to 625 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: act and like I want to do it. Like I'm 626 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: aware that having the following and having this platform could 627 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: potentially help me get into a door, but it's not 628 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: going to keep me in the room. At first, there 629 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: was this imposter syndrome and I was getting auditions that 630 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: I was like, that's insane because I'm like a fan 631 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 2: of this franchise or I'm a fan like I know 632 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: when this movie comes out, Yeah, I'm going to be 633 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: a fan of this movie, and so like to even 634 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: think that I have a chance of being a character 635 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: in it, or I. 636 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: Still have the imposter syndrome. 637 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: I mean like wait a minute, they thinking of me? 638 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, my god. 639 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: But I read something the other day and it was 640 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: really interesting and like it completely shifted my perspective of 641 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 2: imposter syndrome. Is like basically along the lines of imposter 642 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: syndrome being a good thing, and it means that you're 643 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: doing something cool, and it means like chasing that imposter 644 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: syndrome because there are many people that will never experience 645 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 2: that feeling of like I'm doing something so amazing that 646 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: it feels like this shouldn't be happening to me or 647 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: for me yea, but in fact, like rethinking that, like 648 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: I love chasing that feeling. Now, Yeah, like let's see 649 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: how much crazier this life can get. Let's see what 650 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: more I can accomplish. And it's like it's a cool 651 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: thing to chase, but it's it's also kind of a 652 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: slippery slope, like. 653 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: What more can I do? 654 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: What more? 655 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: Am? 656 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: But I think with acting, at first it was very 657 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: much that and like playing the Devil's advocate of like 658 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: all right, well, growing up seeing these movie stars and 659 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: seeing these people that I was fans of and it 660 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: was like I know nothing about them and now trying 661 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: to do the thing where I'm like reverse engineering it 662 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: where I have this platform when I said yes to 663 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: that first film, like everything that I said prior to 664 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: you know, being a movie star, it sounds amazing, etc. 665 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: But I'm like, am I gonna love these? Like I 666 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: had people prep me for like it's gonna be long days. 667 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: Early mornings, I was like talking my language, I've been 668 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: craving this, like I need to be a part of 669 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: a team, and like yeah, I need to have these 670 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: bounce boards and like I want to fulfill this creative 671 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: side that I feel like it's so hard to which 672 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: just myself and the phone and I've I didn't feel 673 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: like I hit this plateau, but it was almost Yeah, creatively, 674 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: I was like I got to do something bigger and 675 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: like I want to and so thank God that I 676 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: had such an amazing experience with the first film, and 677 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: just knowing that that is what it takes to make 678 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: a film, I'm like, oh, sign me up, Like I'm 679 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: in this now. 680 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: Discipline. 681 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. And so if the if the industry 682 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: continues to have me, I I would love to continue working. 683 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: But it's I've been very humbled by the by the process, because, 684 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: like I said, the platform can get me in rooms, 685 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 2: but it's yeah, like I think I've done over hundreds 686 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: of auditions and it's like this is the journey. Yeah, 687 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: and I'm sure, yeah, if you have any tips in that. 688 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: Real oh man, no, you The tips are just keep 689 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: doing it, yeah, And I mean try and find the 690 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: best people to work with and work with them and 691 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: just absorb everything you know, and and as I said earlier, 692 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: continue to try to peel back and let yourself be there, 693 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: which I feel like in some ways, I'm like, no, 694 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: because you have lived in front of the camera, not 695 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: for your entire life, but for you know, a portion, 696 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: and so it's like being comfortable in front of the 697 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: camera is really important, which obviously that's something I feel like, 698 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: like that that's happening that's great. It's like getting inside 699 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: the skin of the character, understanding everything about the psychology 700 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: of the character as much as you can, and then 701 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: just really connecting with the person you're working with. You 702 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 1: know who, Remember that may be it's all that, it's 703 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: all that, you know. 704 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: Do you remember when you realize that act? 705 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 706 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: There were a couple of things. Yeah, a couple of things. 707 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: And I think when I was a kid, my mom 708 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: would encourage me to join There was a teen theater 709 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: group in town, and I was like, I can't be 710 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: bothered with this annoying and I would go to these 711 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: things and it was really really the social yeah, the 712 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: things that I really enjoyed. Hanging out with some of 713 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: my friends and there were two girls around and I 714 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: was like, not so bad, you know, Yeah, I liked 715 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: this b Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Did you ever do ballet? 716 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: I didn't, but I took two years of ballet. 717 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my god. It wasn't I was terrible cool, 718 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: it was no, it was a college. I was serious. 719 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: It was terrible. There were three guys and thirty five girls. 720 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: It doesn't sound so bad. 721 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,239 Speaker 1: I was awful, and I love my teacher, but I 722 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: was terrible. Yeah, absolutely terrible. But I you know, again, 723 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: try something, you try it. You know, this is fun 724 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: with the heck, how can I not be fun and 725 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: good hard work? I mean it was. It was a 726 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: good workout. Yeah, that was part. That was part of it. 727 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: And I think I said it it'll help me with 728 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: my fight training or something. I went to like a 729 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: program where I was trained. We had three years of 730 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: acting training for repertory theater. So that was it. Theater 731 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: and that's what I was going to do. And then 732 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: movies kind of came in and and I my first 733 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: film I came in. I was my first screen test. 734 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: I'd never seen a film camera before. I never no 735 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: one had ever done my hair in my makeup before, 736 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: and you know, I was like, what the hell is 737 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: all this? You know, I was green as can be, 738 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: you know. 739 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 3: And it was Dune, wasn't it. 740 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally totally. And I watched the movie now and 741 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't know what you're doing there, do you? 742 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: I can just watch my stiff the whole day. That 743 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: seems a critic Oh yeah, yeah, yeah totally. 744 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: What was that auditioning process like and how if you 745 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: felt like or if this was your first time seeing 746 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: a film camera and you didn't like, this was such 747 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: a foreign thing to you. 748 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, how'd you get the role? I just I you know, 749 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: I had a great good fortune to work with to 750 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: meet David Lynch. He and I had a connection right 751 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: at the very beginning. 752 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 753 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: And he was my on just a personal level, on 754 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: a personal level, yeah, So he was kind of we 755 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: were we were We bonded quickly, almost as brothers. It 756 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: was so interesting. So Dune was our first and he 757 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: helped me through that, and then Blue Velvet was the 758 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: second and worked together again, and then Twin p and 759 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: that whatever, that connection was, that magic that we had 760 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: and I, you know, I really trusted him and and 761 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: I had trusted my training too, and I was gradually 762 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: able to sort of interface film acting with what I 763 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: knew theater acting right, And it took a bit of time. 764 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: There was some rough edges, you know, such as I 765 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: had the background, oh just you know, just learning what 766 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: the camera does. Yeh. See, you have already had a 767 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: relationship with the camera. 768 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: Social media has kind of trained me to like be 769 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: I've had to become comfortable in front of the camera, 770 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: so that it's had a weird way of I guess, yeah, 771 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: training me for that because I had I had a 772 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: really interesting conversation with my with my co star on 773 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: on the movie, and like there were so many times 774 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: where I'm just I'm I was so self conscious and 775 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: so it wasn't even I was self conscious in the 776 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: right way. I was more I guess again, curious of 777 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: like are you believing this? Like after every scene, like 778 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 2: he'd say cut and I would be like, I would 779 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: say to her, name is Sienna, and. 780 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 3: Does this feel real? Like I feel like I could do. 781 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: It so many different ways and she's like, that's acting 782 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 2: like it's subjective and like how you're doing it is great, 783 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: you could do it ten other different ways. And I 784 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I don't say that because that makes 785 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 2: it sound. 786 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: Like there's no right. Yeah, there's no right exactly. 787 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: It's not a one size fits all. So I had 788 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: to learn that very quickly of like you just kind 789 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: of have to commit and like if you're going to 790 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 2: make a choice, make a choice, and like, but don't 791 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: have asst and just make it feel so listening and 792 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: the responding in it, and it really, yeah, it is. 793 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: So we had an exercise when I was in Classic 794 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: called talking and listening and basically that's it as if 795 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: you're hearing something for the first time and responding to 796 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: it in a new way, right, And it's one of 797 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: the things that sort of I've I've been working on 798 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 1: it too, to be honest, you know, in the past 799 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: ten years. It's like getting in front of the camera 800 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: and just sort of saying, I don't know where we're 801 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: going to go with this. 802 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 803 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: We always play a game great towards the end of 804 00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: the interview, and it's called name that heart throb. You're 805 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: You're you're more of a heart throb than I've an 806 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: older heart back in the day. But we're going to 807 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: take turns reading lines from that certain heart throbs have said, 808 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: and then we're going to try and guess who said it. Okay, Yeah, 809 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: it's a multiple choice. So when we come back, we're 810 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: back with our heart throb section. And the reason that 811 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: we're wearing these these it's not a costume. I mean, 812 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: I you know, I wear this occasionally. It's part of 813 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: my wardrobe. Is because nights were the original heart throbs. 814 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: I think at least that's what we're saying right now. 815 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 2: So that's true. 816 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: You look great, by the way, the whole. Yeah, the mess. Yeah, 817 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: it's nice. Glasses work too. I think it's kind of 818 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: a fun touch. I took my glasses off to warre these, 819 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: so I can't see a thing, but I'm just pretending. Okay, 820 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: we're back with our segment. Okay, name that heart throb. 821 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: Now I'm going to take I'm going to read lines 822 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: from various heart throbs throughout history, and we'll have to 823 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: decide which one it is. Oh yeah, and we have 824 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: candy here. So if you you're pretty I know you're 825 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: pretty pretty healthy, but if you win, we should be 826 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: thinking if you lose one, you have to eat a candy. 827 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 3: That's more of an incentive there, because they're very spicy 828 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 3: their heart. 829 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, spicy hot Tomali's okay, all right, first one, 830 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: here we go. All right, here's my line. What team 831 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: Wildcats A zach Efron, B Paul Newman, no help see 832 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: Charles Melton, okay or D Kyle McLachlin. 833 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go A. 834 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Zachron is correct? The right answer? Well done, 835 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: thank you, well done? All right to me, it happens 836 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,919 Speaker 1: you have been watching all your films. I'm very proud. 837 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: Of you. 838 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Ice musical was was one that I did not 839 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 2: need to like do any catch up on. My sisters had. 840 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: That right, repeat, I love it. 841 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 2: Movies are ahead of its time. Okay, here's mine. 842 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 3: I'm the king of the world. 843 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: That was me. No, I'm just kidding a. 844 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 2: Ethan Hawk, B Leonardo DiCaprio see Jeremy All and White. D. 845 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 2: Kyle mcla. 846 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: My sensor recurring theme here with my name. Oh well, 847 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: Ethan would have loved to have said that. Yeah, but 848 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 1: I think that's Leo. 849 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: I think that's yes. 850 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: Indeed the world. Oh bless him. Okay, prepare yourself. There's 851 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: some bad words in this. Gives it home. If you 852 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: were a fucking sweet person, you wouldn't have fucked your 853 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: best friend's boyfriend. Let me say it again, more passion. 854 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: If you were a fucking sweet person, you wouldn't have 855 00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: fucked your best friend's boyfriend. A carry grant. If you 856 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: were a fucking sweet person, you wouldn't have fucked your 857 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: best friend's boyfriend. I say it again, b Ryan Gosling. 858 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna try to one person. See Jacob 859 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: Lordi okay, D Kyle McLachlin. 860 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 3: Seem really doing. 861 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 2: I'm trying to walk you guys through my I'm really 862 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 2: doing process of elimination here. 863 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: I want to hear your process. 864 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think carry Grant said that. 865 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: Ah, you show you know. 866 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of the right Ryan Gosling is 867 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: like a north star for me, and so I think 868 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of his films. I just don't 869 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 2: remember him saying that. It is something that he I 870 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: feel like he'd delivered the hell out of that line 871 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: though film. 872 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 3: I think Drive. 873 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: I like Drive too. 874 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 3: I love Drive. 875 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's such a cool performance from him. Yeah, 876 00:39:54,640 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Jacob says that in Euphoria, not only. 877 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: The name of the actors as well the show or 878 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: the show I actould say as well, that's impressive. 879 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 2: Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me 880 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 2: back in. 881 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: That's good man. 882 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 2: Let me give you their choices. Okay, unless blindly you 883 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 2: know this, but that's. 884 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: Well. Paccino. I think they named we did not know before? 885 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 2: Wow, did not see these questions? 886 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: No, I didn't know. I don't know that. 887 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 3: That's impressive. 888 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: No, no, nothing nobody named iris. 889 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: Who stumped me there? 890 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: Deep? 891 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 2: I don't know Taxi Driver. Oh that I tell Okay, 892 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: I recently just watched Taxi Driver for the first time. 893 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's worth a rewatch a long time. Yeah, it's remarkable, 894 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: remarkable anyway, Okay, I it was good. We haven't had 895 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: to eat a sweet. 896 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 3: This is this is one of the. 897 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: Things like that's the if you get one wrong, have 898 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: sugar exactly. 899 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 2: Okay, I have to have three because no one's getting 900 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 2: me wrong. 901 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 1: Right, Okay, okay, you ready? Okay, I don't sound like nobody, 902 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: hey Sterling, K Brown, B, Austin Butler, CE, George Clooney 903 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,280 Speaker 1: or d Kyle. 904 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 2: Mcgart Yeah, very good. 905 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 1: I helped you. 906 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 3: You sure did with the help. 907 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't sound like every single A 908 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: little wait, wait just a minute. 909 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, great. 910 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: Follow the money, Follow the money? Okay A Robert Redford, 911 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 1: B Michael B. 912 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 2: Jordan's see yours truly. 913 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: Follow the money? Which was Robert Redford? You said, yeah, yeah, 914 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: I think it's Robert Redford and that is correct. Yeah, 915 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: that's very good, very good reading. Credit. 916 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 3: What's it from? 917 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: Thank you? Follow the money? 918 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 2: Oh? 919 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: Ectra credit? Follow the money? Well, I want to say 920 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: all the presidents man you're correct. Well, congratulations, man, we 921 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 1: were sugar free. I had some before. Thank you so 922 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 1: much of course. Coming on, Oh my gosh, that's good. 923 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: Tell me what's what's the next? What's happening? Give me? 924 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: Give me like a you have film coming out? 925 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 2: Yes, the sequel to the first film of Sideline, The 926 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 2: QB and Me will be coming out. Uh Sideline intercepted 927 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving Day. Intercepted, Yeah, great, thanksaving on on to B. 928 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 2: What I said earlier still stands. It's it is one 929 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 2: of those things where I mean, as you know, nothing's 930 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: promised in this industry. So if I can have some 931 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 2: momentum from this film, or if the industry will continue 932 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 2: to have me, I would absolutely love to do more 933 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: film and shows or whatever. But all in all, I 934 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 2: just want to continue to to create. Literally what we 935 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 2: were just talking about, I want to create. I want 936 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 2: to tell stories. 937 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: I was going to ask, is there something that you like, 938 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: a story that you think resonates with you or a 939 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: character or like a book, you know something. Yeah, You're like, 940 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: I really feel a kinship to this. Maybe you know 941 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 1: it's just soccer related or yeah, I mean I don't know. 942 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 2: If we want to play close to home. I think, yeah, 943 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 2: it's something down the line or something within the realm 944 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 2: of soccer, which I mean, it's the only genre I've done. 945 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 2: But I love rom coms and I will continue to 946 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 2: throw my hat in that ring to pursue those, Like 947 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 2: if there's anything that I've learned from my career thus far, 948 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: not even in just an acting but in social media 949 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 2: as well as like I don't really believe in getting 950 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 2: pigeonholed just because we live in a world now where 951 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 2: it's so like you might as well become like a 952 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 2: jack of all trades just to kind of learn something 953 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 2: to potentially have it manifest to lead to something. And 954 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 2: I I'm a big believer on if it's like, if 955 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 2: it's not, don't fix it. And I think the the 956 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 2: rom com space is there's always going to be an 957 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,280 Speaker 2: appetite for it. And I'm a consumer of those films anyway, 958 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 2: and so I would love to continue to do that. 959 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, eventually branching out and doing it like I 960 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 2: want to do every genre there is, and I want 961 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 2: to because you got to try it. It's like ballet class, 962 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 2: you gotta try. 963 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: It, you see. I think this is a points to 964 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: the different a difference in generation, right you're talking about 965 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: you are looking to do many, many, many different things. Yeah, right, 966 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: and to explore a lot of different things, which I 967 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: think is true of this younger generation of people that 968 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: are that are really engaged in social social My generation 969 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: is like, no, you do this thing. You're an actor 970 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 1: and then maybe you know, eventually you become a director, yeah, 971 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: you know or something like that. But you sort of 972 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: stay in your lane. Seems pretty severe. I don't think 973 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: it's exactly that, but I hear you y's like that, 974 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: and I think that's a big difference between you know, 975 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: people my age people. Your age is just like, no, no, 976 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: you can do all this stuff and have success at 977 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: all of these different things. Nothing find you. And I 978 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: think that's just a just a wonderful thing. 979 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 2: Well, I think at the end of the day, like 980 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: I think my generation is still trying to break that 981 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 2: stigma in a sense, because I mean, what I've learned 982 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 2: is that there are a lot of people that are 983 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 2: gonna say, oh, you started on social media, what makes 984 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 2: you think you can go into this? Like, yeah, it's 985 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 2: kind of that stand in your lane, and trust me, 986 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 2: some comments are a lot more blunt than that. But 987 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 2: if there's one thing I've learned, it's just that you 988 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 2: don't need to ask permission and you don't need to 989 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 2: like just do it and like be undeniable. But I 990 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 2: think I respect acting too much to think that I'm 991 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 2: entitled to be in some of these movies because of 992 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 2: my following or whatever. It's like, like I said, it's 993 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 2: getting you in the room, but it's not keeping you 994 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 2: in there, and so it's kind of all up to 995 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 2: me on whether or not I put in the work 996 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 2: to stay in there. And so I think the athlete 997 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 2: and me would not let like, if there's any part 998 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 2: of me that was slacking in that realm or was 999 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 2: thinking that there was bits of a titlement creeping in, 1000 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 2: then I would. I'm harder. I'm harder on myself than anyone. 1001 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, yeah, I won't allow that. But well, 1002 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm excited for the future. Honestly, I'm just 1003 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 2: like I'm anxious to tell more stories. I just I've 1004 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 2: learned that I just love film and shows, and yeah, 1005 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 2: there's so much content to consume nowadays, and so I 1006 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 2: just want to continue being a creator of that. 1007 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: Brilliant Yeah, good, good, good, well, thank you, thank you. 1008 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 1: That's all the time we have today. I mean there 1009 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: is more time in the day. Yeah, this is as 1010 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: far as we're going to go. Did we solve the riddle, 1011 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: the riddle that unites us all? What are we even doing? 1012 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if we did, but we had a 1013 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 1: great time doing it, going on our way, going on 1014 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: this journey, and we're going to keep trying. So so again, 1015 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: appreciate you here, Thanks man, thank you so much for 1016 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: having me right. What Are We Even Doing is a 1017 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: production of iHeartMedia and the ls DURAN podcast Network, hosted 1018 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: by me Kyle McLachlin and created and produced by Full 1019 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: Picture Productions Yay, featuring music by Yata and artwork by 1020 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 1: Danica Robinson. 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