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Visit Azycardinals dot com Slash podcast. 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: Here we go, one handed catching a touchdown. Oh baby, 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm that fail. 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Grioloud, Paul Calvic and nine year NFL veteran 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson. 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 4: So you really got to hand it to the NFL 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 4: to make sure they stay top of mind. And yes, 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 4: it is Super Bowl week, but the news of the 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 4: weekend and the National Basketball Association certainly hopped everyone's thought 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 4: process still to this day. Yet what happened on Monday morning? 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 4: Oh yes, the NFL says we'll raise the stakes a 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 4: little bit. Miles Garrett, I want out of Cleveland. And 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: then right before Super Bowl Monday nights, Cooper Cup posts 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 4: on social media, Hey I just have been informed I'm 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 4: going to be traded. So yes, it is all about 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 4: the movement and making sure you are our top story 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 4: above the fold, as they like to say for those 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: that still read newspapers. Rob But again, it's all about 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 4: making sure you are the story of the day, maybe 29 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: now more of the story of the hour, because things 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 4: happen so fast in the sports world. 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 5: The NFL does not want to allow the NBA to 32 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 5: have their day in the sunshine and all the attention. 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 5: Of course, it's got to be about the NFL and 34 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 5: Miles Garrett, Cooper Cup. Those are big names. Two big 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 5: names right there that are either requesting a trade or 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 5: informed that they're going to be traded. So yeah, there's 37 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 5: there's a lot of things starting and brewing in the NFL, 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 5: and as we enter into kind of the free agency 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 5: period and the push for the draft, it'll be it'll 40 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 5: be exciting and interesting to see what goes forward. 41 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 6: I mean, we went into February and all of a sudden, 42 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 6: it's trade wars everywhere. It's not just the NBA, it's 43 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 6: the NFL, it's the world economy. It's Mexico, it's Canada, 44 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 6: it's China. I mean, pretty soon you're gonna be NFL 45 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 6: and NBA owners throwing tariffs on guys. I mean it's 46 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 6: they're trade wars everywhere. 47 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: When you played rob, I mean, this is this is 48 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 4: kind of relatively new as far as first happened in 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: the NBA with that player empowerment. Hey I want to 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 4: I want more of a say on where I play, 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 4: where I live. But this is again there's a there's 52 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 4: a fine line on on how you do it and 53 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: then whether it stays private or it goes public. But 54 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: this is, this is unheard of because guys, back when 55 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: you were played, even going ten years ago, you just 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: you got drafted and you stayed there until you were 57 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 4: told we don't want you anymore. 58 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how it was. And and look, social media 59 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 5: has changed so much, right we we didn't have that. 60 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 5: If you wanted to get something out, you had to 61 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 5: get some reporter to come into the top room, tell 62 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 5: me some Paul KELVC type guy, and hey, I want 63 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 5: to be traded now. It just didn't happen back then. 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 5: You're right, And even with college like college, you you 65 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 5: picked a college, you went to that college you stayed 66 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 5: at that college, that's all changed now. So yeah, there 67 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 5: is certainly an element to that where the players are 68 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 5: more empowered now, uh to really to dictate or try 69 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 5: to where they go, what what the terms are, and 70 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: and uh, you know it's it could be good and bad. 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 5: I can see it both ways. And and you think 72 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 5: about college, right, I see that that it's important for 73 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 5: the players to have some ability to to kind of 74 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 5: mark their future and to establish their future. And then 75 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 5: in the pros, obviously, yeah, if coaches can go anywhere 76 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 5: they want, you know, there's got to be something there 77 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 5: for the players too. 78 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 6: I mean, Cleveland GM Andrew Berry can stand there at 79 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 6: the Senior Bowl and say, we are not trading Miles Garrett. 80 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 6: I won't even take two first round picks for him. 81 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 6: And then Miles Garrett says, hey, you're not the boss 82 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 6: of me, and I'm going to release my own statement 83 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 6: and I'm going to force my own way out. And 84 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 6: then twenty four hours later, NFL dot Com runs a 85 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 6: story nine best fits for Miles Garrett. So you know, 86 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 6: there he is speaking it into existence. And oh, by 87 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 6: the way, Cardinals are on that list. Yes, they are 88 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 6: just saying they are tops, not tops, but they are 89 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 6: among the top half on that list. So it's going 90 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 6: to be interesting to pay attention to. But it is 91 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 6: the one thing in the National Football League that is constant, 92 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 6: and that is change, whether coaching changes or player changes. 93 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 6: The Cardinals, though for the first time under head coach 94 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 6: Johnathan again and Paul, are going to have some changes 95 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 6: to the coaching staff. Two that we know for sure, 96 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 6: Clayton Adam is moving on the offensive line coach going 97 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 6: to the Dallas Cowboys to be their OC, and inside 98 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 6: linebackers coach Sam sifkaz get into promotion on the college ranks, 99 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 6: becoming a defensive coordinator at Virginia Tech. So those are 100 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 6: the two that we know. Everything else is just kind 101 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 6: of reported. We'll wait for the official announcements. We can 102 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 6: touch on some of the names, but that's not what 103 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 6: we saw a year ago. At this time, the coaching 104 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 6: staff remained intact. Year two under JG however, you're gonna 105 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 6: have maybe up to a half dozen new faces on 106 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 6: the staff, all right, So two takeaways. One, it's extremely 107 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 6: rare not to have any turnover on a coaching staff 108 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 6: from one season to the next, especially when you have 109 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 6: nearly two dozen guys on an NFL coaching staff these days. 110 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 6: So last year was definitely the exception. But guess what. 111 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 6: When you show market improvement from one year to the next, 112 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 6: then guess what, a lot of your coaches are going 113 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 6: to be in demand. So you're seeing guys getting elevated. 114 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 6: You're seeing guys taking promotions. At Clayton Adams now all 115 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 6: of a sudden, he's going to be a coordinator. Even 116 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 6: the report today Spencer Whipball going from past game specialists 117 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 6: to the Jags QB coach according to multiple reports. So 118 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 6: that's what happens. And JG hinted as much in his 119 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 6: final media availability that, yeah, we have guys who are talented. 120 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 6: We have guys who are forging a reputation for themselves 121 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 6: around the league. Other teams know. They watch film, they 122 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 6: see they see a Cardinals defense where a lot of 123 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 6: the schemes the Cardinals were running. We're starting to be replicated, 124 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 6: dare we say plagarized by other teams. The best compliment 125 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 6: is is when someone adopts your scheme and starts running it. 126 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 6: So towards November December, at Cardinals players saying, you know what, 127 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 6: we watch film now we're seeing our schemes being run 128 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 6: by other teams, and guess what that leads to the 129 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 6: coaches who are drawing up those schemes. 130 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 4: It's good for those individuals, especially when you get a promotion, 131 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 4: get on the flip side of Robison like, Okay, well, 132 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 4: now all of a sudden, there's a hole in that room, 133 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: in a position room. That's a large loud voice because 134 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 4: they are with those particular player groups more than anyone else. 135 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 4: As far as a coordinator or a head coach. 136 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 5: Well, they are. But typically if you keep the same 137 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 5: coordinators both offensively and defensively, the position coaches are going 138 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 5: to kind of fall in line. But you know, in 139 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 5: terms of what they're being taught, you know, the techniques 140 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 5: may change. Individual coaches may have different techniques and different 141 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 5: individual periods that they want to implement for the players, 142 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 5: but overall the scheme will remain the same, and the 143 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 5: overall just the overall scheme of the defense of the offense, 144 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 5: that won't change. As long as you have position changes, 145 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 5: that's something that is easily navigable by the players. 146 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: Now, don't forget Drew Petsing was among the candidates that 147 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: was interviewed for the Chicago Bears opening, and then all 148 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 4: of a sudden you get word that is a wolf work. 149 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 4: The Cardinals quarterbacks coach was talked to for the Bears 150 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 4: oc job, but those two are going to be back now. 151 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 4: The new names that are being reported out there. As 152 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: far as the Cardinals new offensive line coach, Justin Fry 153 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 4: out of Ohio State, Yes, he did coach Paris Johnson 154 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 4: junior and previously when he was at UCLA coach John 155 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 4: Gains the second so there is some tie in within 156 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: that offensive line room. A couple of the new names defensively, again, 157 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 4: these are all reported, not officially announced by the Arizona 158 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 4: Cardinals as of yet. Defensive line coach. According to reports, 159 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 4: the team is moving on from Derek Leblon and they 160 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: have signed again out of the college ranks from the 161 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: University of Minnesota, Winston de Ladi Boudair, who was teammates 162 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: with Nick Rollis once upon a time at Minnesota. Another 163 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: new name inside linebacker coach Christian Garcia, former Dallas assistant 164 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 4: dB coach last season. He's replacing Sam Sifkis. So those 165 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: are the names, Paul, that we have to familiarize ourselves. 166 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: Get to know, because it's a good point by rob 167 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 4: the fact that the head coach is the same and 168 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 4: your coordinators on both sides of the ball are the same. 169 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 4: That now again you're just looking for guys to kind 170 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 4: of take that message from the OC and the DC 171 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 4: and translate. 172 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 5: It to the players. 173 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 6: Players, no players, coaches, no coaches. You see the connection 174 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 6: between existing coaches and some of the incoming coaches. Some 175 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 6: really young coaches, guys who are on the up, who 176 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 6: are on the rise, They are ascending, and so it's 177 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 6: interesting to see who they have identified. Look, the vibe 178 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 6: I get from the college game. In the college game 179 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 6: pays well, but the non stop, relentless recruiting and everything 180 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 6: else involved in the chaos at nil, NFL coaching jobs 181 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 6: are more coveted and desired than ever. It's more, it's 182 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 6: as competitive as ever to get some of these gigs. 183 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 6: So I'm guessing some of these names you just read 184 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 6: off that are coming in, those are guys who have 185 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 6: targeted the NFL. Some are coming from the college game, 186 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 6: and from all accounts, they have proven themselves and forged 187 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 6: quite a reputation based on their resumes coming in. 188 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 4: And then you look at what's going on across the 189 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: league as far as coaches like a Chip Kelly who's 190 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 4: been in the NFL college now back in the NFL 191 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 4: as the Raiders offensive coordinator tripled his salary, have no 192 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 4: idea who he's going to quarterback that Raiders offense. But 193 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: I do think rob when you see some of the 194 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 4: names with this Cardinals coaching staff, it is and has 195 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 4: been a young coaching staff, and whether that is a 196 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: belief that there is a better tie in or you 197 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: can relate better to a younger player, but then these 198 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 4: are players that or coaches that have perhaps been more 199 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 4: familiar with the players that are coming into the league. 200 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: And then you know, obviously if JG is sticking around 201 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 4: for ten plus years, that changes a little bit, But 202 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: at least from the onset, there's good knowledge for some 203 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 4: of these prospects that are in their first year in 204 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 4: the National Football League or now as you get ready 205 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: for the draft looking at these seniors and juniors in 206 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 4: the college ranks. 207 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's a young team too, so that you 208 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 5: know you want to match those young players with coaches 209 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 5: that are young as well. And just back to Paul's point, 210 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 5: which I think is a great one, why would anyone 211 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 5: want to coach in college? Honestly, with the NIL, with 212 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 5: the transfer portal, you don't know what player you're gonna 213 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 5: have year to year, week to week almost and and 214 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 5: what's NIL going to do them? Are they are they 215 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 5: going to be all of a sudden empowered and and 216 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 5: not as receptive to coaching. So I agree with that 217 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 5: shift to the NFL coaching And always, you know, I've 218 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 5: always considered the NFL coaching to be the the really 219 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 5: the pinnacle. And when you think about it, it's it's 220 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 5: more of a collaborative relationship between coach and player. In 221 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 5: the NFL, it's not it's you know, it's first name, 222 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 5: it's you know what if we try this, let's do this? 223 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 5: Would this work? Do you like this? Whereas in college 224 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 5: it's more do this, get over here? What are you doing? 225 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 5: Get on the line? You know, it's it's uh, you know, 226 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 5: more seniority based in college, whereas in the pros it's 227 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 5: it's more collaborative. And I think that's a healthier relationship. 228 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 5: And to have young coaches come in that that are 229 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 5: more in tune with the young players of this team, 230 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 5: I think I think that makes for a healthy coaching 231 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 5: player relationship. 232 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: The other news item of the week is what we 233 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: saw on Sunday the Pro Bowl better than fifty four 234 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: thousand watching the NFC beat the AFC. And yes, Trey 235 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 4: McBride and Buddha Baker each had a hand in the 236 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 4: NFC win. Buddha Baker with a pick six, Trey with 237 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: a touchdown reception, and y'all all in good fun. In fact, 238 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: as we take you back to Orlando, what happened on Sunday, 239 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 4: Trey McBride and Buddha Baker some of their highlights and 240 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 4: some miked up segments as well. 241 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 7: Golf four second clock, it's ticking back of the end 242 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 7: zone and there's McBride. 243 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, man that dude's just start completely agreed. 244 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 5: Hey, Trey McBride here has just been as a Pro Bowl, 245 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 5: NFC came out on top. 246 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: Man, has so much fun. Thanks for everyone to. 247 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 7: Travel out here. 248 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 8: Go Cardinals, baby. 249 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: Oh no, Buddha with a house golf. 250 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 6: And they're the Cardinals celebrating. 251 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 9: Hey, that is our rack, Go cars, nfcs got to day. 252 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 10: How'd you see that? 253 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: Bro Blis went right? 254 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 4: Bude Baker having fun his seventh trip to the Pro 255 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: Bowl for Trey, his first, the third straight year in 256 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: which under this new format that the NFC has won. 257 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 4: And I got a little bone to pick with what 258 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: Eli Manning made the decision, I believe as far as 259 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: defensive MVP, he went with Byron Murphy four marows on 260 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: a cardinal. He had a pick six, Budda Baker had 261 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 4: a pick six. So how do you differentiate which pick 262 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 4: six was better? There were three total by the NFC. 263 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: But come on, Budda Baker is a veteran. Byron Murphy 264 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 4: is he's a young cat. 265 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 6: I mean, one guy's in his seventh Pro Bowl, the 266 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 6: other guy's in his first, you know. And Buddha he 267 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 6: actually played in the full contact way back when I 268 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 6: use that loosely full tackle full by the way, After 269 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 6: the game, Buddha's saying, I like this format more meaning 270 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 6: flag because it gives fans a chance to see our 271 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 6: faces and just kind of see who we are off 272 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 6: the field as well. And he said, we compete, but 273 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 6: we keep it civil. I was wondering, you know, I'm 274 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 6: watching the game a little bit up on the screens 275 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 6: of the gym because rob of course I live at 276 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 6: the gym, and there I was, and I'm like, wait 277 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 6: a minute, is there still a winner share and a 278 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 6: loser share? The answer is yes. The winning team got 279 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 6: ninety two thousand per player. The losing team got forty 280 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 6: six thousand per player. So especially when the second half 281 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 6: hits and the fourth quarter hits, yeah, the intensity rises 282 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 6: a little bit. 283 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 5: Well, look, I'll tell you flag football is competitive. It's 284 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 5: very competitive, you know. You and I we've seen it 285 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 5: with the girls flag football in high school and boys 286 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 5: flag football is going to be an Olympic sport. Flag 287 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 5: football is the way to really get with the youth 288 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 5: and grow this sport. And you know, I like it. 289 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 5: I like where they're going. 290 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 6: Goodell said to the media yesterday the NFL is considering 291 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 6: a pro flag football league, and a lot of people 292 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 6: think it's coming after the twenty eight Olympics because that'll 293 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 6: be the platform that launches it. 294 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay wide receiver Mike Evans on Saturday quoted as saying, Hey, 295 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: this Pro Bowl quote good practice for me. In the Olympics. 296 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: There are a lot of NFL players that have their 297 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 4: eye on the Olympics and an Olympic medal in Los Angeles. 298 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 4: So again, a lot of moving parts within the National 299 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 4: Football League. We'll keep it current, We'll keep it local 300 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: here with the Arizona Cardinals. Kurt Warner his thoughts on 301 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 4: K one and MHJ next on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 302 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: Shot gunna snap Murray to throw a fade right side 303 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: of the end zone. 304 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: I'm the money to Marvin Harrison Junior. Touchdown. What a 305 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: throw by Murray. 306 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: That's his fourth touchdown pass, tying a career high. 307 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 8: You can see that coming a mile away, Marvin Harrison 308 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 8: Junior one on one against the corner, and he went 309 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 8: ahead and ran the fade, and sure enough, Kyler Murray 310 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 8: put it out there and Marvin Harrison Junior went and 311 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 8: got it. 312 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: Tex Fitz and let him know that Marvin Harrison Junior 313 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 3: just tied his rookie record. That's eight touch down catches, 314 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: tying in with An Kwon, Bolden and Larry for most 315 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: touchdown catches by a rookie and team. 316 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: Hisstery. Pretty good company right there, by the way. 317 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 4: If you're gonna text Fitch, you should also text An 318 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 4: Kwan as well. Although Fitz was in the building for 319 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 4: that Week eighteen win of the San Francisco forty nine ers, 320 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 4: and I still believe hash Wolf and you, Paul, you're 321 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 4: still waiting for that text message back from Number eleven. 322 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 6: Well, last time I texted Number eleven, it was to 323 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 6: appear on one of our radio shows, and he asked 324 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 6: in return that we attend Brophy football games to see 325 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 6: his son, and then he sent me the schedule. So 326 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, well, I'll look at the schedule. I'm 327 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 6: not going to sell Point because that's in Tucson, Larry, 328 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 6: but yeah, I'll take that under review. So yeah, that 329 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 6: Dave was having fun with that, because Larry likes to 330 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 6: have fun with us. 331 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 4: It was a quite the way to end a rookie 332 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: season for Marvin Harrison Junior his eighth touchdown reception as 333 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 4: the Cardinals beat the forty nine ers that day. Yeah, 334 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray with four touchdown reception or say four touchdown 335 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 4: tosses in that game. As we look at that connection, 336 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 4: if you will, between quarterback and wide receiver rob something 337 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 4: that we were looking forward to in twenty twenty four. 338 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 4: It was the talk of the offseason. It maintained the 339 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 4: talk of the season because we didn't really see it 340 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: on a consistent basis. That were flashes against the rams 341 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 4: against the forty nine ers in Miami. But that impact 342 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 4: that you were perhaps hoping for MHJ just wasn't there. 343 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: Statistically solid season, but I don't think just looking back 344 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 4: big picture, that there were enough impact moments within the season. 345 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's where statistics can lead you. Astray, Right, 346 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 5: You look at his statistics are very similar to what 347 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 5: Larry Fitzgerald did as a rookie, and it looks great. 348 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 5: But with the eye test, you see things that clearly 349 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 5: can be improved upon. And I think that the good 350 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 5: news is there's a lot of room for improvement for 351 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison June you're and for Kyler Murray and that 352 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 5: relationship between the two, you know, and and you saw 353 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 5: it work when it when it did work, it was electric. 354 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 5: But there's just it was just too few and far 355 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 5: between those plays of those those impactful plays for my liking. 356 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 5: And you know, it's it's something that I know is 357 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 5: going to get better. I know that relationship, that chemistry 358 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 5: is going to improve in the off season. In year two, 359 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 5: that's when you typically see the biggest jump in terms 360 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 5: of players and the light turning on for them and 361 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 5: saying Okay, I got this and let me do my 362 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 5: thing and and the quarterback being on the same page 363 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 5: with him. That's when you typically see these things happen. 364 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 5: And so maybe you look around the league and maybe 365 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 5: there were some other rookie receivers that that statistically were 366 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 5: just going off the charts, and you wonder, well, you know, 367 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 5: why isn't Marvin Why, why why isn't Marvin Harrison Junior 368 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 5: doing that? Well, it's going to come. Everybody. Everybody advances, 369 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 5: everybody grows, everybody learns at a different pace, and I 370 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 5: think the time for Marvin Harrison Junior is coming in 371 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 5: this sophomore season. 372 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 6: A couple of weeks ago, Big Red Rage, we had 373 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 6: Frank Sanders as our guest. In longtime Cardinals fans will remember, 374 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 6: the former second round pick had a heck of a 375 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 6: rookie year. In fact, he's number three all time in 376 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 6: Cardinals franchise history receiving yards as a rookie. And he said, 377 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 6: one luxury I had one luxury fits had as we 378 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 6: had another bona fide legit receiver next to us. I 379 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 6: had Rob Moore's wide receiver. One Larry had Ankwon Bolden. 380 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 6: Coming off a ridiculous rookie season, they took a lot 381 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 6: of the attention away from coverages and Marvin Harrison Junior 382 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 6: did not have that and we saw that all year long. 383 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 6: He got Jalen Ramsey and every other name corner in 384 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 6: the league. And so it was a process and like 385 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 6: any rookie, it was a roller coaster ride. But Frank 386 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 6: was very bullish that you're quote going to see a 387 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 6: different player end quote in year two, that he really 388 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 6: is going to ascend his second year now that he 389 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 6: has a good handle on Okay, what is the challenge 390 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 6: playing in the NFL. 391 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 4: Well, the good news is is Marvin's going to put 392 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 4: in the work. That's we all know because he We've 393 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 4: seen it and he has said as much. And I 394 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 4: think he was really satisfied with his year. And you 395 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 4: can make the same case k for Kyler Murray as 396 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 4: well as far as his game this season twenty one 397 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 4: passing touchdowns, but for those in Week eighteen. So again 398 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 4: the numbers get skewed, but it's not always about the statistics. 399 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 4: When you want to ask someone about the quarterback play, well, 400 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 4: can't go much better than Kurt Warner, who was very 401 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: good in a Cardinals uniform recently on the Big Red 402 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: Rage talked about K one going into twenty twenty five. 403 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 10: I still believe that the best offenses in the league 404 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 10: are those teams that can consistently make those kind of 405 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 10: mid range chunk throws to make the game easier. So 406 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 10: you don't have to make tenants won't play drives to 407 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 10: be successful. So his ability to kind of have the 408 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 10: patience and timing to get from one to two and 409 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 10: make more of those number two type throws down the 410 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 10: field is where I believe they have to improve. Where 411 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 10: Kyler has to improve because he does a number of 412 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 10: things right with number one and getting to his checkdowns. 413 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 4: Talent Wise, there is no debate Kyler Murray is extremely talented. 414 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 4: Now what is keeping him? What is keeping this team 415 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 4: from the next step? Ie playoffs, postseason run, super Bowl. 416 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray, you ask him about his goals, he doesn't 417 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 4: mention super Bowl. He makes it super Bowls, he makes 418 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 4: it plural. But there was something this season that kept 419 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 4: this offense Robin I think more specifically this passing offense. 420 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 4: I don't know if it was held in check, but 421 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 4: there was just something missing. And the only thing I 422 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 4: can come up with is just the consistency of a 423 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 4: downfield passing offense and making those drives not nine, ten, eleven, 424 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 4: twelve plays, but more on that four or five sixty 425 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 4: seven play range. 426 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. So to have those big chunk plays, those those 427 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 5: big deep in cuts over the middle or down the sidelines, 428 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 5: you need the entire team to really be focusing on 429 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 5: the on the same thing and and to all be 430 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 5: doing their jobs. That starts with the offensive line. It 431 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 5: starts with the running backs either helping out and blocking 432 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 5: or or getting out into the checkdowns. And and it 433 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 5: comes down to the wide receivers and getting off of 434 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 5: coverage and and getting some separation. And that's that's one 435 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 5: area where I think has to be improved, the separation 436 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 5: for the for the wide receivers. You know, Trey McBride, 437 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 5: I don't know how much you can improve there. Interesting 438 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 5: you know, every time he had ten or more receptions 439 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 5: last season, the Cardinals lost. So, I I don't know 440 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 5: what that says, but you know, it's hard to improve 441 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 5: anything that that that man does. But there's room for 442 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 5: improvement across the across the line really in terms of 443 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 5: the yearson the Cardinals offense, UH, in order to get 444 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 5: those plays downfield, because it takes a little extra time. 445 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 5: It takes an extra second, second and a half for 446 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 5: those plays to develop downfield, and and so you know 447 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 5: there's there's enough accountability to go really from wide receiver 448 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 5: all the way down to the offensive line on those plays. 449 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 6: It's not surprising Kurt talks quite often about winning from 450 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 6: the pocket as a quarterback. That's the sort of quarterback 451 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 6: he was. Obviously, he was going to beat you with 452 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 6: his brain. He was going to beat you with his accuracy, 453 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 6: his anticipation. He was going to find the guy that 454 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 6: was open. He loved it when you blitz because he's like, Okay, 455 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 6: now I'm going to find the stress point in your 456 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 6: defense where you're not. And that is something that the 457 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 6: Cardinals need to improve as a unit as a passing game, 458 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 6: because what are defensive coordinators hellbent on doing making sure 459 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 6: Kyler Murray doesn't extend the play or break the pocket. 460 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 6: They're doing anything and everything they can to keep him 461 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 6: in the pocket. And that's where the receivers have to 462 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 6: be on the same page, at the right place, at 463 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 6: the right time. And I still believe the first half 464 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 6: of this past season there wasn't enough of that. There's 465 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 6: a reason why Trey McBride had a record breaking season. 466 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 6: He's the guy in year three with the quarterback. Their 467 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 6: chemistry is to the point where they're beating any and 468 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 6: all coverages no matter. You can put Fred Warner on 469 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 6: him and he's beating them like a drum. And you 470 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 6: saw that in the season finale. That's how good they 471 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 6: are together. That's where the other receivers have to do 472 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 6: get on the same level with Kyler Murray. 473 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 4: And that might be why, to your point, Rob, that 474 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 4: Trey McBride was targeted so much, had so many receptions 475 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 4: because he's got a little bit more history with Kyler Murray. 476 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 4: It also helps that the tight end is certainly more 477 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 4: open underneath. And again for those shorter pass completions. But 478 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 4: again it goes back to that conversation, all right, yeah, 479 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: you can throw it to Trey McBride ten times, but 480 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: you might only gain fifty yards. A couple of deep 481 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 4: throws down field, and all of a sudden, you've got 482 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: eighty ninety yards on a scoring drive. 483 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I also think it comes down to play 484 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 5: calling and looking at the play calling from last season 485 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 5: and what worked for Marvin Harrison Junior specifically, we're talking 486 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 5: about him in my mind, when he was at its best, 487 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 5: at his best, and when Kyler was at his best 488 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 5: with Marvin Harrison Junior, it was those deep crossing routes 489 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 5: came off of play action and those are the type 490 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 5: of routes where Marvin was able to get some separation 491 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 5: and able to use his athletic ability. And so do 492 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 5: we incorporate more of those? You know, those are things 493 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 5: I think that need to be looked at in this 494 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 5: offseason and really, you know, kind of tailor the game 495 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 5: plan to get these guys to really get in a 496 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 5: position where we can exercise and take advantage of their strengths. 497 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 6: And to Rob's point, coming off the week seventeen game 498 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 6: at the Rams, Marvin Harrison Junior said he was afforded 499 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 6: the ability to run some different routes, telling the media, Yeah, 500 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 6: there was a little bit of a change or an 501 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 6: evolution or an expansion of his route tree and what 502 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 6: he's able to show, and it worked. It caught the 503 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 6: Rams by surprise a few times. He had a couple 504 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 6: of chunk catches, I know, coming out of the By 505 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 6: Jonathan Ganatolos in his TV show, he did want to 506 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 6: see some improvement from Marvin Harrison Junior and Kyler Murray 507 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 6: specifically outside the numbers. That's where he thought there was 508 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 6: room for improvement, and I think they did in December 509 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 6: and January. I think you did see that part of 510 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 6: their game get better. 511 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 4: We heard from Kurt on Kyle Er Murray. How about 512 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 4: one more from Kurt Warner before we take a time out. 513 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 4: What he saw from Marvin Harrison Junior in year one. 514 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 10: The biggest thing you always want to see with young 515 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 10: guys is growth, and to me, I saw that with 516 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 10: Marvin Harrison Junior throughout the year. Is that I saw 517 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 10: the growth from week one to where he was at 518 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 10: the end of the season. You saw him improved in 519 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 10: some of those areas that he struggled early on. So 520 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 10: that has to excite anybody in the organization or Cardinals 521 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 10: fans that hey, he's just learning it. And you know, 522 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 10: we often say the biggest drives for any players are 523 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 10: made between their first and second year. 524 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 4: Always good to hear Kurt Warner in a great conversation 525 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 4: if you missed the good Asycardinals dot com for the 526 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 4: full conversation on the Big Red Rage. But it goes 527 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 4: back to again, the numbers suggest that that relationship Paul 528 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 4: can be better because sixty two catches, one hundred and 529 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: sixteen targets, fifty three percent catch percentage. That's got to 530 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 4: be in the sixty five to seventy if you really 531 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 4: want that number one wide receiver Moniker and right now, 532 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 4: yes it's Marvin because he's the guy, but he's not 533 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: giving you the numbers of a number one wide receiver. 534 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 4: And it's a process. 535 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 6: Not only did he get number one corners the whole season, 536 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 6: but there's very physical play that he had to deal 537 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,239 Speaker 6: with that he didn't get a whole bunch of. And 538 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 6: Kurt Warner mentioned that you didn't see a lot of 539 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 6: that Ohio State. He's always wide opener. They're giving him 540 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 6: a huge cushion. A lot of teams went the opposite. 541 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 6: They came up pressman cover, and you got to dictate 542 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 6: what did drew Therell say the Cardinals passing game coordinator 543 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 6: wide receivers coach late in the year, meeting the media set, 544 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 6: I tell all my receivers, guess what they're trying to 545 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 6: defend us. It sounds really simple, but we dictate to 546 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 6: the defense. And I think that was a challenge at 547 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 6: times for not only Marvin Erson Junior, but any rookie 548 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 6: getting used to that physicality. But as the season went on, 549 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 6: you saw a little better, getting some more separation top routes. 550 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 6: And some of that is because you know what, he 551 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 6: was returning fire and he was competing and in the 552 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 6: U have to do that in this league because they're 553 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 6: going to test you physically too many times. 554 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 4: I think we always heard, okay, we're taking what the 555 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 4: defense gives us. Into Paul's point, Roberts, Okay, well, how 556 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 4: about how about the Cardinals start dictating to defenses. This 557 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: is what we want to do, even though it might 558 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 4: not be successful early on, but keep pushing that envelope 559 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 4: and making sure that all right, at some point it's 560 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 4: going to click. 561 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 8: Yeah. 562 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 5: You see from Arizona Cardinals a lot of times personnel wise, 563 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 5: they'll have multiple tight end sets and so that kind 564 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 5: of dictates to the defense what personnel group they have 565 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 5: to be in. From there, now, the Cardinals want to 566 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 5: dictate what the plays are and what the routes are 567 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 5: going to be run. What's up to Marvin Harrison Junior 568 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 5: and Kyler Murray To really build on that relationship going 569 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 5: into the second season. 570 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 4: You want to see Kyler Murray, Marvin Harrison Junior and 571 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 4: action this upcoming season. Join the Cardinals Season ticket wait 572 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 4: list today for a list of all the twenty twenty 573 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 4: five opponents and to learn about season ticket member benefits. 574 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 4: God Asycardinals dot Com. Forward Slash Weightless. This is the 575 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 576 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: Snap to Daniels play action my step drop throws deep 577 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: middle and it is intercepted at the eighteen yard line 578 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: by Garrett Williams. He's tackled there picking off Jaydon Daniels. 579 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 8: Oh my goodness, what a play by Garrett Williams. Ill 580 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 8: located with one hand, his right hand went out and 581 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 8: batted it down to himself. 582 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: Snapped to Herbert, preached up straight, drop, looks over the 583 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: middle side, arms it in complete at the six yard line. 584 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: Garrett Williams knocking the ball down. It was intended for 585 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 3: Disley and it's fourth down. 586 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 8: What a great play by Garrett Williams getting that right 587 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 8: hand across and knocking the pig out. 588 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: So would my bias show if I said the following, 589 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 4: Garrett Williams the best cornerback for the Arizona Cardinals in 590 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, would you be okay with that. 591 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 6: Paul or okay, considering the Alma Mater connection, the Syracuse connection, 592 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 6: I really want to disagree with that. I'm not I'm 593 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 6: gonna have a full disclosure. I really want to blow 594 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 6: your take out of the water, and I'm having a 595 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 6: hard time doing that, especially when Pro Football Focus ranked 596 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 6: him as the second best cover corner in the league. 597 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 6: Did I see that ranking that analytic correct. 598 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 4: Behi patser Tan. 599 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 6: I mean when the list starts with pats or Tan 600 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 6: and then that's the only guy ahead of you in 601 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 6: any cornerback ranking. Yeah, maybe he had a better season 602 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 6: than everyone realizes. You're truly included, and it. 603 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 4: Was just his first full season in the league year one. 604 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 4: Remember he made his debut halfway through the twenty twenty 605 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: three campaign. As we say welcome back, it is the 606 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 4: Cardinals Red Sea report Craig Realu, Paul Calvic, and Rob Friderckson, 607 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 4: as we put the spotlight on a cornerback group that's 608 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 4: unbeknownst to me until our executive producer pointed out Jimal Mahundro. 609 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 4: No pending free agents on the roster, so technically everyone 610 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 4: we assume, of course, you know what happens when you 611 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 4: assume rob But right now that cornerback room, most likely 612 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 4: there'll be some tweaks, but maybe not a major overall. 613 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 4: But hey, what do I know as we speak here 614 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 4: in early February. 615 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 5: It's a young group, athletic group. You look at like Starlink, Thomas, 616 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 5: Garrett Williams, Control Clark, Max Melton, Yeah, and John Murphy Bunting, 617 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 5: so that you know it's a young group, right, And 618 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 5: I feel like they've really come on and they've really 619 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 5: last year they started to kind of galvanize around each 620 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 5: other and really develop into a solid personnel group. And 621 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 5: Garrett Williams a second best in terms of coverage from 622 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 5: Pro Football Focus. Well, just imagine, guys, if the Arizona 623 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 5: Cardinals had a consistent pass rush, that alone makes cornerbacks better, right. 624 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 5: You know, if you have a consistent pass rush as somebody, 625 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 5: the group of guys that can get to the quarterback 626 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 5: and really affect the timing of routes and the timing 627 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 5: of delivery, that really helps out the cornerbacks. And I 628 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 5: don't think the Cardinals have had that. So this group 629 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 5: has really had to dig in and cover guys for 630 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 5: three to five seconds. At times, and that's tough to do. 631 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 5: I don't care who you are, so I'd like this group. 632 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 5: I like kind of where they're at and in terms 633 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 5: of their development, in terms of growing, and you know, 634 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 5: I see a really good future for them. 635 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 4: Two interceptions this season for Garrett Williams. At the end 636 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 4: of the season, he was asked in the locker room 637 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 4: what type of players he would like to see added 638 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 4: or needed within that locker room in order for the 639 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 4: Cardinals to win. 640 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 7: Guys who love ball, high character guys, but it's also 641 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 7: the thing of in his game time, guys who can 642 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 7: turn it on as well. And I think they've done 643 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 7: a really good job of bringing guys in like that, 644 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 7: and only more people are gonna come in. I think 645 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 7: the goals of Super Bowl and I think we're really 646 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 7: building towards that. 647 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 4: You look at some of the numbers as far as 648 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 4: the set secondary in terms of interceptions, the Cardinals finished 649 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 4: in the bottom third passes defense. They were among the 650 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 4: bottom third as far as the total numbers are concerned. 651 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 4: And again it goes back to all right, does a 652 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 4: better pass rush or more consistent pass rush help with 653 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 4: those numbers or do you need more? Do you need 654 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 4: better quarterback play to get your hands on more football. Look, 655 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 4: if the. 656 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 6: Cardinals ad via the draft of the corner room, I 657 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 6: wouldn't be shocked. I do not expect it on the 658 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 6: first or maybe even the second day. I think they're 659 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 6: still building from the inside out. I think you saw 660 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 6: a couple of players beyond Garrett Williams, you know, on 661 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 6: the ascension towards the end of the year, in particular, 662 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 6: Max Melton, I thought, really got into his own and 663 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 6: got a lot of praise from the coaches, especially Jonathan 664 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 6: Gannon the final month month and a half on his 665 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 6: TV show, and that's his area of expertise that he 666 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 6: has coached the longest. He had a lot of positive 667 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 6: things to say about the progress that Max Melton made. 668 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 6: So that's big time there. Starling Thomas. I, you know, 669 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 6: I did not realize until he came on the Big 670 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 6: Red Rage late in the season. He ran a sub 671 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 6: four three forty at his pro day. He was not 672 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 6: invited to the combine. He ran a four to two 673 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 6: eight is pro day UAB So he has talent, and 674 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 6: he has the speed, and he's been smart enough to 675 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 6: attach himself almost literally to the hip of Buddha Baker, 676 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 6: he's been improving a lot. But once again, if you 677 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 6: can and look at the Eagles this year in the 678 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 6: Super Bowl with two rookie corners and Quinny and Mitchell 679 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 6: and Cooper de jene. So you know what, I think 680 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 6: the Cardinals are set at this position group. If they 681 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 6: don't put a high draft pick, I'm perfectly fine. If 682 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 6: they want to go elsewhere in this draft, I think, 683 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 6: you know what, there's a lot of justification for that. 684 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 4: You bring up Max Maltain. How about we hear from 685 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 4: someone who knows about the position, knows about the secondary. 686 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 4: Buddha Baker on what he saw from Max in year one. 687 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 9: I've seen him grow a lot, the knowledge of the game. 688 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 9: Played man a lot in college. So just understanding the 689 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 9: different type of zones that you know, we play with, 690 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 9: and I'm understanding Man as well, different techniques he can do, 691 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 9: but also getting that football knowledge. He's done a great job. 692 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 9: He's asking questions in the meetings, you know, just getting better. 693 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 4: You brought up the youth in that room, Rob And 694 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 4: there's another name that we did not see this season, 695 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 4: Elijah Jones third round pick. So there's a reason that's 696 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 4: an investment in a player at a position that always 697 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 4: you're looking for more cornerbacks, but with Jones, it's the 698 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 4: height six foot one. Do you need maybe a little 699 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 4: bit more of a taller, more physical cornerback against some 700 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 4: of the wide receivers that you're facing on a weekend, 701 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 4: week out basis, don't know. I haven't seen him on 702 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 4: the football field. But when you have Garrett Williams, when 703 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 4: you have Starlininge Thomas, when you have Max Melton, and 704 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 4: then you had a veteran in Sean Murphy, Bunny, that's 705 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 4: a solid group. Now it's okay, where do those younger players, 706 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 4: what steps do they take moving forward, whether that's year 707 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 4: two or year three, year four. 708 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of these guys. You obviously cut your 709 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 5: teeth on special teams your rookie season and maybe even 710 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 5: your second season, maybe get some play here or there, 711 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 5: but yeah, your development is important. And you mentioned the height. 712 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 5: If you if you have the benefit of being over 713 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 5: six feet tall at a cornerback and you can still 714 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 5: cover and run and you have the quickness, that's that's 715 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 5: a plus, right because those fifty to fifty balls against 716 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 5: six foot four, six foot five wide receivers, you need 717 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 5: some height, you need some some size to you. But again, 718 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 5: I just keep going back to, you know, the athleticism 719 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 5: of this group and what they've been able to accomplish 720 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 5: without a consistent pass rush. To me, I'm with Paul, 721 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 5: and I've said this before. If if in terms of 722 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 5: just the draft and where where your head, where my 723 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 5: head's at in terms of the draft is you know, 724 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 5: if you if your hand's not in the dirt, I'm 725 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 5: not drafting you. This team needs to build from the 726 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 5: inside out on both sides of the ball. And and 727 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 5: you know, skill positions you can you can always find 728 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 5: some guys you can always supplement in free agency and 729 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 5: later in the draft, But for right now, my focus 730 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 5: would primarily be on the interior offensive line and the 731 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 5: defensive line, including edge. 732 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 6: Elijah Jones has to win the offseason. There's no doubt 733 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 6: about it. He's behind. He's behind. He not only lost 734 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 6: all his game reps, he lost valuable practice reps because 735 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 6: of injury, so he needed to put on a little weight. 736 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 6: But he has great size, he has unbelievable athleticism and instincts. 737 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 6: He's a really bright guy. So they're still upside there. 738 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 6: Elijah Jones I would say, get ready to kill the 739 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 6: offseason and then play a lot in the preseason games. 740 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 6: You're going to play two or three quarters of every 741 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 6: preseason game, try and catch up. 742 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 4: And then again we'll keep our eyes on free agency 743 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 4: in the draft. As far as all right, is there 744 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 4: improvements to that front seven that maybe help that secondary 745 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 4: a little bit so they have the time to get 746 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 4: some hands on some footballs. Only nine interceptions last season 747 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,479 Speaker 4: by that secondary by the Cardinals in general, the goal 748 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 4: of every team the Super Bowl. Will take a look 749 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 4: at the big game coming up on Sunday. Next here 750 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 4: on the Arizona cardin Oles Radio Network. 751 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 11: Zero of the Clark the players fly skyward at the Eagles, 752 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 11: not just beat but Annihiley, the Washington Commanders. Fifty five 753 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 11: to twenty three. 754 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 2: What a day? Want to win? One a crown? What 755 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: a team? What a season? But it's not over yet. 756 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 4: One more snap puts the Lamar Hunt Trophy right back 757 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 4: into the Kansas City Trophy case going to a knee. 758 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 2: You can't doubt the Chiefs. 759 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 8: You can dislike the Chiefs, you can disrespect the Chiefs. 760 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 8: You're gonna have to deal with the Chiefs being the 761 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 8: first team. 762 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: In National Football League history to win back to back Super. 763 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 8: Bowls and go to the Super Bowl for a chance 764 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 8: for a three pet. 765 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 4: And then run began right in our own backyard, State 766 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 4: Farm Stadium two years ago, Chiefs beating the Eagles for 767 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 4: their first of what they hope will be a three peak. 768 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 4: Coming up on Sunday, mel Reice Eagles Radio metropolitis Chiefs 769 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 4: Radio with the final calls from the NFC and AFC 770 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 4: Championship games, respectfully, And yes it is coming up on 771 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 4: Sunday four thirty kickoff, Arizona time, Super Bowl fifty nine. Yes, 772 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 4: there are some of us, rob I'm pointing to the 773 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 4: gentleman to my right that has Chiefs fatigue. But these 774 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 4: are the two best teams in the National Football League, 775 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 4: are they nuts? 776 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 6: I mean, if Chiefs Radio says I can dislike the Chiefs, 777 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 6: then then I will. I'll take you up on that offer. 778 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 6: That's my stance. 779 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 5: Hot take here, Americans. We as Americans, we do not 780 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 5: like success. Okay, hot take here. Now. Look, we like 781 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 5: the comeback story, all right, we like the theg We 782 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 5: like the underdogs to get there, we knock them down, 783 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 5: sustain success. We loathe. We do not like it. I 784 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 5: think we get tired of it, we get bored of it. 785 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 5: You know, we want something different, we want something new. 786 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 5: And this is where the country is right now. 787 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, you go from hero to villain, there's no doubt 788 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 6: about it. But you know, there's also the ad nauseum factor. 789 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 6: I'll just throw it out there. 790 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 10: You know. 791 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 6: It's the repeated incessant commercials starring all members of the Chiefs, 792 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 6: and it's just the uh, you know, the celebrity aspect, 793 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 6: you know. I mean, I'm pulling for Bradley Cooper, you know, 794 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 6: just against Taylor Swift. You know, give me a new 795 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,720 Speaker 6: celebrity out there. You know, Bradley Cooper has some musical chops. 796 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 6: Just go watch Stars Born, watch the movie. So you know, 797 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 6: it's just different things all of a sudden. Once again, 798 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 6: I'm not consuming any of the hoopla, none of the 799 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 6: previews stuff, Craig. I'll be there for kickoff. And I 800 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 6: mean the fact that the Chiefs have turned me into 801 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 6: an Eagles fan, a Philadelphia fan, is absolutely remarkable. 802 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 4: Hey, to the victors go the spoils, and the Chiefs 803 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 4: have enjoyed their success off the field because they win. 804 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 4: What they also do and what both these teams do 805 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 4: is place all the defense and whether or not that's 806 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 4: a factor on Sunday, but which quarterback can beat the 807 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 4: other team's defense? And then, once upon a time, that 808 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 4: one Super Bowl that Patrick Mahomes did not win against 809 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay, that Bucks defense harassed Mahomes. He had no 810 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 4: time to throw in the pocket. And that's how you 811 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 4: beat most quarterbacks. Although it's been few and far between 812 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 4: that we've seen Patrick Mahomes struggle against another team's defense. 813 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 5: This has been a really interesting season for the Kansas 814 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 5: City Chiefs with no real star power at the wide 815 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 5: receiver position. Obviously Travis Kelsey still have him at tight end, 816 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 5: but he's aging. He didn't have a great regular season. 817 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 5: But come playoff time, he shows up and pen Patrick 818 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 5: Mahomes gets it done. And this Chiefs offense just finds 819 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,439 Speaker 5: a way to get it done. And you're right, their 820 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 5: defense gets overlooked. The Chiefs defense, they really do. They 821 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 5: get overlooked and they can ball and they've been playing 822 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 5: some really good defense, especially in the playoffs. So you're 823 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 5: right defensively, because the Eagles have a great defense themselves. 824 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 5: I'm looking at, really what Saquon Barkley how does he 825 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 5: fit into this game? Are the Chiefs defensively able to 826 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 5: stemy him? Are they able to slow him down? Because 827 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 5: Saquon has been running and having a season like no other, 828 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 5: and and to really to see him, uh, the way 829 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 5: he's performed in the playoffs. If this, uh, if this 830 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 5: Chiefs defense can corral him, I think the Chiefs got 831 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 5: a chance. 832 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 4: Does it reminded even one I just thought about it, 833 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 4: Larry Fitzgerald's postseason run. I mean, as far as yards, 834 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 4: touchdowns impact on games, it's very similar to what Saquon 835 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 4: is doing for the Eagles. 836 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 6: No matter what the defensive strategy, their commitment assets against 837 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 6: a certain player unstoppable that's been Saquon Barkley. I think 838 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 6: it's a referendum of sorts on the Arizona Cardinals and 839 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 6: every other team that's a run first offense that wants 840 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 6: to cram a vertical. There's only one Patrick Mahomes. How 841 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 6: do you beat him? He's got another decade in this league. 842 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 6: Can you run the ball, play that physical style of 843 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 6: ball and be a world champion? And then going back 844 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 6: to the defense, I would agree with you guys. The 845 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 6: two low key MVPs of this game would be Chris 846 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 6: Jones and Jalen Carter. And right now, Jalen Carter, if 847 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 6: you're moving Joe Tooney out of the interior O line 848 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 6: to left tackle out of necessity, can Jalen Carter be 849 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 6: that wrecking ball the interior O line of the Chiefs. 850 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 6: Is that the liability that gets Patrick Mahomes hit and 851 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 6: harassed and is the key to the Eagles winning this game. 852 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 4: Goes back to your conversation Rob about the interior of 853 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 4: the defensive line and getting some pressure, whether that's up 854 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 4: the middle or stopping the run. But if you have 855 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 4: that three technique, as Ron Woofley likes to say, an 856 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 4: Aaron Donald type or someone in that category, and all 857 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 4: of a sudden, it makes everyone else defensively behind you 858 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 4: much better. 859 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 5: And an attention magnet, right, somebody that really just draws 860 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 5: the attention, draws the offensive line to turn their protection 861 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 5: towards you and have an idea of where you are 862 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 5: in every snap. That's I mean, we're talking about theres 863 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 5: On Cardinals. That's what the Arizona Cardinals don't have, right, 864 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 5: they don't have that player and maybe they maybe they 865 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 5: do have it on their roster, but it hasn't. It 866 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 5: hasn't revealed itself yet. 867 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 4: Can I get you to like the Chiefs, Paul? If 868 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 4: it means that DeAndre Hopkins, Hollywood Brown, DJ Humphreys, Yeah, 869 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 4: that's true potent, especially hump I mean, come on, yeah, No, 870 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 4: you're right, You're right. 871 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 6: Absolutely. Those are all really good guys and former Cardinals. 872 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 6: I would like to see that happen. And you know what, 873 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 6: they have a good chance considering Patrick Mahlomes's career of 874 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 6: playoff record is seventeen and three and he's won nine 875 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,280 Speaker 6: straight playoff games. Wow, and seventeen straight one possession games. 876 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 6: What crazy? 877 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 8: Yeah? 878 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 4: The Chiefs the first team with five Super Bowl appearances 879 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 4: in a six season span. They excuse me. They went 880 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 4: on Sunday and they will accomplish something that has never 881 00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 4: been done before, and that is a three peats National 882 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 4: Football League. We'll see what happens on Sunday and then 883 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 4: talk about it in one week's time. Here on the 884 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 4: Cardinals Red Sea Report Special Thanks behind the scenes Jim 885 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 4: Molmhunro Cody Fincher, Evan Reiser, Ron Frederickson, plunk OUTBC. I'm 886 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 4: Craig real Lou. This has been the Cardinals Red Sea 887 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 4: Report on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. 888 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: You've been listening to the Cardinals Red Sea Report. 889 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 2: It is caught by McBride. 890 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,479 Speaker 3: Hey, it's a touchdown boot a Baker with the sack 891 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 3: strip the ball. 892 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 11: Hurry's gonna score touchdown, Oh baby. 893 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Red Sea Report is brought to you by 894 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals mobile app visit Azycardinals dot com, slash 895 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: app Touchdown Cardinals whim. This has been an exclusive presentation 896 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals football Club