1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian a future driverless car using holographic displays for 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: dash controls and buttons and things. You turn on Energy 3 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, and you look at it and you say, 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: isn't that from Star Trek Voyager? You know, you look 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: at the electronics and the technology, and and that's what 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: the first thought I've got is, who's going to afford it? 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Who's gonna fix it? Welcome to the radio home of 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: Ron and Nannian the Car Doctor. Since this is where 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. 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You 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: know many of people have come to lunch and they've 30 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: gotten back and there's that voicemail going and that was me. 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: So anyway, UM, we are here to talk about your car, 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: talk about your car and it's problems and um all 33 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: that that entail. So I look forward to talking to 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: you this hour and many many hours more to come. Hey, 35 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: the top ten most expensive car and I don't want 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: to talk about that, Actually I want to. I'll talk 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: about that a little bit. I was reading an article 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: about the top ten most expensive car models to repair. Um, 39 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: it's interesting. What's at the top of the list. Well, 40 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. The top five. That the the 41 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: number five most I should have read this last hour. 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: I was looking at it during the pause. We just 43 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: came in from the second hour over the top of 44 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: the hour break the number five most expensive car to repair. 45 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: And this is out of what magazine? Is this out 46 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: of Ratchett and Wrench. It's a mechanics journal. Um uh, 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: they're citing the ten most expensive cars. And let's see 48 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: number We'll start at the top. The number ten most 49 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: expensive car to repair in the country right now is 50 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: the midsize Chevy Malibu. Average cost UH to maintain at 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: three dollars. Who is this done by? Wait minute, let 52 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: me read the whole article so I look like I 53 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. Um oh, I'm sorry. This is 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: by repair Pal. Repair pal conducted to study and the 55 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: average cost of common orto repairs. So the most popular 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: cars in the US. Using a proprietary database of water 57 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: repair pricing, repair Pal calculated the average cost of four 58 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: common repairs water bolt in it or brake pads, and 59 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: oil change on forty popular car models. The survey found 60 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: Hunday to have a higher MPG and the most affordable 61 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: average cost of repairs. The Volkswagen Jetta and Mitsubishi Lancer 62 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: are both on the most expensive list and cost more 63 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: to repair. The most luxury models and all the SUVs. 64 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: So that being said, on the scales, Chevrolet Malibu came 65 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: in at number ten, Infinity G thirty seven came in 66 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: at number nine, Mitsubishi Lancer number eight. Really, Mercedes Benz 67 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: came in. A Mercedes ben C three hundred came in 68 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: at number seven. A BMW came in at number six. 69 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: The number five most expensive car to repair in this 70 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: survey Volkswagen Pasade. What does that say about Volkswagen. Volkswagen 71 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: cost more to repair than a BMW and Mercedes. I 72 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: wonder if that accounts for the tow truck that they 73 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: they get the car back into the drag it into 74 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: the eight right, you know, It's like, aren't that covers it? 75 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: You know? And the cost of having the owner standing 76 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: on the side of the road waiting in the chair, 77 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: um lounging um. Let's see. Volkswagen Jetto was number four, 78 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Lexus I S who fifty was number three, and Audie 79 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: was number two. That's German engineering. And the most expensive 80 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: car to repair in this class was a Lincoln Mkzy 81 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: luxury vehicle in the luxury class. But I can't get 82 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: over Volkswagen. The Jetta and the Pissade were in the 83 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: top five of most expensive cars to repair out of 84 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: that survey, So like, wow, what are they thinking? Um, 85 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: that's just that's just kind of mind boggling. Anyway, let's 86 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: kick the garage doors open. There was something I was 87 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: gonna talk about, but I'll be darned if I know 88 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: what it was. I'll just keep rolling along because I've 89 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: learned sound on radio is very important. Let me keep talking. 90 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: Let me go over and talk to Lloyd, who's waiting 91 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: very patiently there in Louisiana Way with a Ford pickup 92 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: and a misfire problem. Lloyd, Welcome to the car doctor, sir, 93 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: How can I help? Uh? I've replaced Okay, Well, I 94 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: took it. I took the truck to thettle parts. They 95 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: put the data UH recording only and I said that 96 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: number seven slander the coil was not firing. So another 97 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: one put it on and still the same thing. Okay. Uh, 98 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: So I took and put it on number eight and 99 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: put eight on number seven, and now then the UH 100 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: data recorder says that seven and eight is not working. 101 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: What's going on? Well, and let me say this, it's 102 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: uh just got a slight miss in it and it 103 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: wants to bog down. If if I put my foot 104 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: in it and get it on up to speed of 105 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: or fifty miles an hour, it does find But if I, uh, 106 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: if I grandpa, it just let it kick into each 107 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: gear it wants to bog down and start kicking in. 108 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: First first lays the mule. First of all, Lloyd, that 109 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: scan tool that plugged into the underdash connector what what 110 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: years this truck? What year was this truck with coil 111 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: with coil packs? Yes, sure, yes, sure, okay, we'll fix it. 112 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: We'll fix it. We'll fix it as it's still a car. 113 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, uh I said ninety one. I 114 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: was talking to you about ninety one, listening to you 115 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: about years in the two two one. That's okay, that's 116 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: all right, I but you know what, I okay, we're good. 117 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: Two thousand one. So a misfire? What what? What the 118 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: scan tool is saying? It had a P zero three 119 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: oh seven? Al right from my seat here, a P 120 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: zero three oh seven says there is a misfire on 121 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: cylinder seven. It's not saying ignition coil. There's two parts 122 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: to this problem. Would all right? Um? So a P 123 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: zero three oh seven is a misfire do you have 124 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: a small engine, do you have a you have a lawnmower, 125 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: you mode the lawn, use use use a snow thrower, 126 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: et cetera. Okay, if that, if that had a miss, 127 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: you know what could it be. It could be the 128 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: spark plug is fouled. It could be a problem with 129 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: the carburetor that's fuel. It could be a problem with 130 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: the cylinder that's mechanical. All three of those conditions would 131 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: cause a misfire. Same thing with the engine on the 132 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: in the truck. It's just a bigger it's just a 133 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: bigger lawnmower engine. It's just got eight cylinders. So when 134 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: it says when it says right, when, okay, ten, when 135 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: it says misfire on cylinder seven, it's just saying that 136 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: there's a miss. It's not saying it's the coil. The 137 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: general assumption is always that it's the coil because that's 138 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: people's interpretation. Could be the injector, it could be mechanical. 139 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: It could be the spark plug. It could be a 140 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: vacuum leak. It could be that a mouse chewed through 141 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: the wiring harness feeding the trigger going to the coil. 142 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: For number seven, there's a there's a ton of things here, 143 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: all right. So a big problem on changing pout cover 144 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: test which I saw the number five uh with spark plug, 145 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: is that it's sitting in a little bit of oil. 146 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of work. But let's go let's 147 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: go back over and let's let's let's finish with this 148 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: number seven and number eight conversation. So you bought a 149 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: new coil, stuck it number seven and had the same result. 150 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: Now you swamp, you swap number seven with number eight, 151 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: which is the right move, start moving it around. If 152 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: you have no test equipment, that's where you're gonna go. 153 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: And now you've got a misfire on two cylinders. Okay, 154 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: hopefully you're marking these coils before you take them out 155 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: of the head. Just take a magic markers swap you perfect. 156 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: Then let's take that number seven coil that's now in 157 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: number eight. Just just to be as certain as we 158 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: can be, let's take that number seven coil and move 159 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: it somewhere else. Okay. If that coil shows a dead 160 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: hole on that cylinder, you know, let's say you move 161 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: it to number one. Then you've learned the hard way 162 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: that you know what news stands for. You know what 163 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: news stands for never ever worked, and that that new 164 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: coil is no good? All right? So now you're gonna 165 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: take that coil back to the parts store. Was it? 166 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: Was it a white box part? Was it the house brand? 167 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: Or was it was it? Was it? Was it a 168 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: motorcraft piece? Or what? What was it? Do you know? Yeah? Okay? 169 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: Was it a was it their house brand? Was it cheap? 170 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 1: I don't even remember. I've been having this problem for 171 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: almost It was over too much. You don't remember what 172 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: you paid for it? Twenty bucks, thirty bucks, forty bucks. 173 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: That should have been a decent quality, but doesn't mean 174 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean necessarily that's always the case. But you know, 175 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: new doesn't mean good. So let's verify. First of all, 176 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: is that coil good or bad? All right? If that 177 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: coil is bad, you gotta get another one, all right. 178 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: But the fact that number eight cylinder is now in 179 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: number seven and that and that cylinder is dead. If 180 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: that's the case, then we've got a problem on that 181 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: cylinder other than the physical coil. Just because the coils 182 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: in the hole doesn't mean it's getting triggered properly, doesn't 183 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: mean that it's got signal from the computer doesn't mean 184 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: that the injector is firing, doesn't mean you know, there's 185 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: a lot of what ifs here, So you know, first 186 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: things first, let's figure out the coil. Once you get 187 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: past that, then we've got to have a conversation. Do 188 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: we have a fouled plug? Do we have uh an 189 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: injector problem? Do we have signal to the coil? All right? 190 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: And for that you're gonna need some test equipment. And 191 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: if you don't have it, then you're gonna have to 192 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: find a shop that does it has the ability to 193 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: diagnose and pin this down. That makes sense? Can I 194 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: can I just put a d M oh if you've 195 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: got to, if you've gotta, if you've gotta, if you've 196 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: got a digital volt domemeter. Yeah, we want to see 197 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: power on one side, but you're not gonna a d 198 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: V O M isn't gonna be fast enough to see 199 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: the trigger point. All right, But what you could do, um, 200 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: if you want it to be daring, and I've done 201 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: this is I will take a known good coil, plug 202 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: it into the connector harness, take a spark plug up 203 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: the coil, boot ground the spark plug, use a test 204 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: spark plug if you want, Does it fire and if 205 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: it if it fires, If it fires, then I know 206 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: at least I've got spark on that cylinder. I've got 207 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: to look elsewhere. If it doesn't fire and doesn't trigger, 208 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: and I've got power on the coil on the one 209 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: leg of the coil, then I've got a problem with 210 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: the signal. Perhaps the driver in the PCM is bid. 211 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: All right, sir, try those things. I don't want to 212 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: get too far ahead of you. Try those things, then 213 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: call me back next week. Let me know how you're 214 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: making out. We'll go from there. All right. You're very 215 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: you have a yourself a good day, Yes, sir, thank 216 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: you very much. Zero, I'm ron in any of the 217 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: Car Doctor waiting here for your call. 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Tom Ray keeps an eye on it 236 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: all the time to make sure that it's up end 237 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: streaming and moving. It's um, it's uh whatever it is. 238 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: It's neutrons and protons and all that other stuff. Jail 239 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: love that kind of talk um out over the airwave. 240 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: So it's there for you. At Car Doctor show dot 241 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: com you'll find the stream. Let's get over to Tyler, 242 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. I guess that's Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Huh see, 243 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: I went to school and I'll see what's going on 244 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: here or one Honda Civic. Hey Tyler, welcome to the 245 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, Sir. How can I help. Thanks for having me. Okay, 246 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: I have this that's I'm in college and this is 247 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: my commuter car coown. And uh, in the mornings, I 248 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: can't get it to start, um without starter, putting starter 249 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: fluid in the breather. Um. Well, at least at least 250 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: you have at least you have a valid excuse for 251 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: wire late for that nine o'clock class all the time. 252 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: You know, listen, man, I was out of ether that day, 253 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: Professor I, could you know it's more original than the 254 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: dog ate my homework. Um, you know, Um, but every 255 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: time you hit it with ether, it fires right up 256 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: right and uh, once it warms up, you know, and 257 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: even after class, after it's been sitting for a while, 258 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: it'll start right up. It's like just when the engine 259 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: dead cold. Uh. So it's an eight hour what we'll 260 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: call it, an eight hour soaked period if it's if 261 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: it's eight hours of cold, uh you know, if it's 262 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: if it's a half a day, it seems to be fine, right. 263 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: And I have a scan too, and I scanned it 264 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: and it doesn't have any codes or anything. And uh 265 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: replaced like the battery and the fuel filter and the 266 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: cool intemp censor. Um. But nothing seems to have worked. Okay, 267 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: So does your scan tools show data stream? Tyler? No, 268 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: it's just the basic Yeah. So, um, let me ask 269 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: you this. Do you have the old cool intempt censor? Yes? 270 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: Where did you buy the one that's in the car. 271 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: Where'd you get that one from? Riley? Okay? UM, nothing 272 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: against it, It's just that I'm trying to diagnose a problem. 273 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: And listen, you could buy a new one right from Honda, 274 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: and you know, we know what new means. So I 275 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: prefer that you put the old cool attempt censor back 276 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: in it, as painful as that might be. All right, 277 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: Just so we're working from the same page. Where where 278 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: I would go with this is there's there's a couple 279 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: of things I want to check, all right. I'd love 280 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: it if your scan tool had UM data stream because 281 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: I'd like to see cool intemp was a good thought, 282 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: but I'd like to see what the cooling temperature actually is. Now. 283 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: The car has an intake air temp sensor. So if 284 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: it's I don't know what's the weather like in Oklahoma 285 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: City today, what's the temperature out there? Okay? So if 286 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: if the car sits for eight hours and you turn 287 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: the key on, but don't start it and look at 288 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: it on a scan tool. The intake air tempt censor 289 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: degrees and the cool intempt censor should be within five 290 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: degrees of that. All right. If it's ten, twelve, fifteen, 291 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: twenty degrees apart, we got a problem. Somebody's somebody's lying. Now. 292 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: If the intake air attempt censor says eight degrees and 293 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: it's really eighteen or twenty eight where you are, then 294 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: it's the take circuit. But at the cool attempt censor 295 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: is the one that's at fault. And you've tested or 296 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: replaced the sensor in this case and it still shows wrong. 297 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: Something is a skew, you know, problem in the circuit, 298 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: problem in in a connection, something like that. Once we 299 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: get past that, then the next thing I'm gonna look 300 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: for on this is, uh, you know, it's all about 301 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: fuel pressure. How long does it take for fuel pressure 302 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: to build? You know, what sort of volume does it have, 303 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: and what sort of warm running pressure does the pump have? 304 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: When you when you get in the car called and 305 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: you know, when you put your head down on the 306 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: steering wheel and pray, oh gosh, I hope my homework 307 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: was good enough. Last night, so I can get the 308 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: school and get the heck out. Um, and you listen 309 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: quietly as you turn the key on. Do you hear 310 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: the fuel pump run? Yeah? I can hear it prime. Okay, 311 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: so it primes. So the next question is what's that 312 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: actual pressure? See the fact the facture right, well, the 313 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: fact that you're giving it ether ether is fuel? It's 314 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: looking or fuel? All right. The only other thing you 315 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: could try trying to diagnosis on a college kid's budget 316 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: is have you cracked the throttle plate? If you just 317 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: you know, touch the touch the throttle plate just a 318 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: little bit to see if that makes a difference in 319 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: the way it starts? Uh? Well, I mean yeah, I 320 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: honestly that would work for a little while, and it 321 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: it seems, um if it's warmer outside, I mean sometimes 322 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: if I crank it for a minute, it'll start up reluctantly. Okay, 323 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: But when it's cold, there's just no chance do this. 324 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: Then the last thing I want you to check. Do 325 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: you have a spark tester of some kind? Yeah? Okay, 326 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: did you check spark when it's cold? I have, and 327 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: it gets bar all of them, all four aspart okay, 328 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: but it doesn't have a good strong sparkle to jump 329 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: the gap. I'll tell you what, Tyler, stay put. I 330 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: want to come back to this. When I returned, I'm 331 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: n nading. The Car Doctor will be back to Tyler 332 00:18:54,840 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma City right after this. Don't go away. Welcome back. 333 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: The end of the card operated by five zero zero 334 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: zero more Car Doctor Show dot Com. Tyler, you're still there. Yeah, 335 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: we're talking to Tyler out in Oklahoma City. Tyler, you 336 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: know where I was thinking this needs to go is 337 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: when it goes into this no start condition. Have you 338 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: tested it for spark when it goes into no start? Uh? No, 339 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: I actually haven't. No, not when it's hasn't started. So 340 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: let's replicate the condition. Let's check it for spark when 341 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: it's in a no start condition. Let's make sure it 342 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: has spark. And the reason you want to use a 343 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: spark tester, which was the right thing to do. What 344 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: do you have the spark plug with a little uh alligator? Um? Okay? 345 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: Do you have? But is it an adjustable gap so 346 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: you can set it to vaults and so on? Uh No, 347 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: it's just like the basic one that's got to you know, 348 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: the to connect. There's in the light in the middle. Oh, 349 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: so you have a you have annoyed light. Uh yeah, yeah, 350 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 1: I guess. Okay, No, you want to spark tester. You 351 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: want you want to go down to your You said 352 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: you had an Arraillyota parts by you, So get down 353 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: to Raillyota Parts. Tell them you want to spark tester. 354 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: What we're looking for is something that's either gonna look 355 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: like a spark plug with a little alligator clips soldered 356 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: to the side, all right, Or it's going to be 357 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: about an inch and a half long black piece of 358 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: plastic with an end that will plug into the coil 359 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: connector and the other end is the alligator clip, and 360 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: it's an adjustable gap and there's a scale on it. 361 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: You open it up, it's vaults. Now you can adjust 362 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: and stress the coil out. What you're looking at, it 363 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: sounds like what you're looking at is the driver's side. 364 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: You're seeing that the coil is being triggered. Doesn't mean 365 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: the coils firing, You're okay. All that means is, you 366 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: know it's it's kind of like, uh um, you know, 367 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: somebody tells you to do something, How do they know 368 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: you did it until they actually saw it was done? 369 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: So you know, we wanna we want to see this 370 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: actually happen, all right, so let's do that. Chances are 371 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: it is. But then we can take spark off the 372 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: off off the table, all right. Once spark comes off 373 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: the table, and the next place I'm gonna go is 374 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: really I want to look at fuel pressure. You know, 375 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: you hear the pump run, how how much pressure does 376 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: it have and how long does it take to get there? 377 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: All right? Am I gonna have to take that to 378 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: like a mechanic. Yeah, now there's there's there's no quick, 379 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: easy way for that. And you know, so you know, 380 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure as a college student you're on a budget, 381 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to find somebody. You don't have to 382 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: ask around and find somebody. But it's a reasonable test. 383 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: It's not you know, it's it's maybe an hour shop 384 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: time by the time they got to unplug everything and 385 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: and and and connect it all up. But um, you 386 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: know that's part of the process. This could be a 387 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: bad fuel pump, not completely uncommon, because we want to 388 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: know what fuel pressure is. It should be around fort 389 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: p s I. And then we want to see how 390 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: long does it hold fuel pressure? Does it have some 391 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: kind of residual pressure. It should hold fuel pressure typically 392 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: twenty minutes. Let me ask you this. Have you tried crank, 393 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: no start, crank, no start, crank, no start. Does it 394 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: eventually start? Well? Like I said, Uh, I mean if 395 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: I do that when it's warmer and you know, just 396 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, it's just gotten worse when 397 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: I bought it. You know, it's got over two d 398 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: miles on it, it's been used. Um when I first 399 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: got it, it would it would take you know, four 400 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: or five revolutions before it would crank over and then 401 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: it's just you know, gotten more and more. But it 402 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: seemed like, uh, you know, I don't know if it 403 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: was just a problem getting worse or you know, when 404 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: it was warmer in the fall, but it would start 405 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: um after I would you know, I didn't want to 406 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: burn the starter, so I crank, crank, crank, and then stop, 407 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: let the fuel prime, you know, crank, crank, and then 408 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: eventually it would start. Right. It's it's because it sounds 409 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: like it's it's starving for fuel. From my seat, That's 410 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: what I was. That's what I was thinking too, Right, 411 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: it sounds like it's starving for fuel. And then at 412 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: that point, what you've got to do is you know, 413 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: why is it? Is it a I've seen voltage problems 414 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: to the pump. I've seen they had pumps. I've seen 415 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: fuel pressure regulators cause issues. So that's that's this is 416 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: where the fuel pressure test becomes invaluable. Could it be 417 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: some other sensor, Yeah, it could be. The problem is 418 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: to play wood it could have, should have and I can. 419 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: I can play that game all day long. The problem 420 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: is without a scan tool to read it, you're never 421 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: gonna find it. Because remember, in order for it to 422 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: set a code, it's got to be outside the speck 423 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: of what the vehicle manufacturer finds to be bad. But 424 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: if it's if it's right on the borderline, then you know, 425 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: until it actually passes that that point in the in 426 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: the scale chart, it's not gonna flag and set a code, 427 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: all right, sir, But there are no there are no 428 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: codes in this vehicle, no no codes. All right. It 429 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: runs great once it's going, and it never you know, 430 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: bogs down or anything like that. But you gotta getting 431 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: it started in the cold Morning's gotta gotta look at 432 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: fuel pressure next and listen. It may not be fuel pressure, 433 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: but you know, what One of the things I learned 434 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: a long time ago is fuel pressure is the most 435 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: overlooked and it's the It's just it's just the necessary 436 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: part of the process. You just gotta know what it is. 437 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: Um Other than that, you're just guessing. All right, sir, 438 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: all right, thank you, you're very welcome. Good luck to 439 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: in your studies, and you give us a clue you 440 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: need anything else. Fuel pressure is critical, and you know, 441 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: even though it's tough on that car to check fuel pressure, 442 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: it's not the easiest. I'm still floored by mechanics would 443 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: call me. They've got problems with cars straighter test valves 444 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: right on the top fuel rail. It's to really three 445 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: minutes to plug gun and hook up. They haven't. They 446 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: haven't checked fuel pressure because they know it's not fuel pressure. 447 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: You know what, I never know what it is not 448 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: is you know what, I know what it is when 449 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: it's fixed. Until I know what until I fix it, 450 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what it not is. So I'm gonna 451 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: test everything because that's how you get to know where 452 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: things are and what they what they what they appear 453 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: to be. Let's pull over and take the pause. Five 454 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. When we return. We're gonna go 455 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: talk to Maureen in New York City. Oh three Pontiac 456 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: Grand Damn. So you guys stay tuned. I'll be back 457 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: right after this. I'm Ronaldinni in the car. Doctor. Hey, 458 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: it's my turn to talk Ronni in the car doctor 459 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: eight five five zero zero. Let's get back to the 460 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: busy phones and go talk to Maureen a New York City, 461 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: O three Ponty at Grandamn, Marie. Welcome to the car. 462 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: How are you good? You're welcome? How can I help? Yeah? 463 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: How should I put this? I got two opinions on this. Actually, 464 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: the first opinion of the car needs a intake guests, 465 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: and I uh uh an intake and it was quite high, 466 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: the price over well over a thousand dollars. The second 467 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: opinion was more like a local mechanic who I've been 468 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: going to for a long time and night sort of trust. 469 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: He said, well, yeah, you have that verified it. He 470 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: verified it and intake guests, and I think that's what 471 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: it's called. He said, well, just leave it because it's 472 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: gonna be too too much of too too difficult to 473 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: correct or something. I think those worries words. My question is, well, 474 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: can I leave it because um or is there another alternative? 475 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: Like I was looking on the internet about feeling feeling well, 476 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: let me let me ask you this, Maureen. What what 477 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: started this? You needed intake manifold conversation? Were you complaining 478 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: about something or did you go in for you No, 479 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't complaining. I just brought it in for a 480 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: simple diagnostic check. Oh yeah, I did feel heat onto 481 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: my feet, but that was after I was running the 482 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: heat it for a while. Um. I wasn't really complaining 483 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: about anything. Okay. Oh, well, after I popped the car 484 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: and got out, I smelled gasoline in the back, but 485 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: I I think would cause that age. That's normal. Well, no, 486 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: no car, you should have gasoline smell anywhere. So okay, 487 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: so let's let's let's back up the truck a minute. 488 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: But the endorsed system is safe in that car. I 489 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: did have a check. Okay, but let's let's let's let's 490 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: have this conversation. It's an O three cars fourteen years old. 491 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: Before you spend any real money on this. The place 492 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: that told you you needed the intake gask at first, 493 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: and it was or whatever it was, UM dealership. Do 494 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: you trust them? Do you know who they are, do 495 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: you know what they are? No? The second one said 496 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: that it was just to leave it, okay. But the 497 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: one that the one that gave you the higher price, 498 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: who is they the dealer? Is that the the first 499 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: one who said didn't say to leave it? He said, 500 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: he said you should get it fixed, right eventually? Right? 501 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: And they said you should get it fixed? Was that 502 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: it was that the dealer? Was that a mechanic you 503 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: go to? That That wasn't the mechanic that I've been 504 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: going to for years? Okay? Who was that? Was that 505 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: the dealership or was that an independent? That's fine? So 506 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: my my my point is that these particular engines did 507 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: go through intake gaskets, all right, It wasn't uncommon. The 508 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: issue is at what point and where and when does 509 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: it fail? All right? And yes, an intake gasket is 510 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: very important. It's it's the hand between the two slices 511 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: of bread, all right. If you don't put hand between 512 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: the two slices of bread, it's no longer a sandwich. 513 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: If you don't have an If you don't have a 514 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: gasket between the intake manifolding the cylinder head, you don't 515 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: have an engine. And the point becomes that at some 516 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: point that gasket will fail. Is it is it worth doing? 517 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: I'd have to look at this from a mechanical perspective, 518 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: not because, as your mechanics said, it's too difficult to job. 519 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: Degree of difficulty has no bearing on whether or not 520 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: something needs to be done in the laws of physics 521 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: or the laws of physics. If the gasket is deteriorating, 522 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: and my suspicion as it is, it's probably starting to 523 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: leak coolant and oil, which would not be uncommon, then 524 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: you know at some point the commitment or the decision 525 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: to replace the vehicle has to be made. My concern 526 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: is when you say you smell gasoline at the rear 527 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: of the car, are you saying gasoline or are you 528 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: saying you smell exhaust? Um, I know I'm smelling exhaust. Okay, 529 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: big difference. All Right, You're gonna smell exhaust from the 530 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: rear of the car. All right. So so here's here's 531 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 1: the answer. All right. The answer is that you know, 532 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 1: your mechanic or somebody that you trust has to do 533 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: an evaluation on the vehicle. What kind of overall shape 534 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: is this fourteen year old car? And how are the 535 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: brake lines, How are the front suspension rubber bushings? How 536 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: are and what if? And are there any major oil leaks, 537 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: transmission fluid leaks, things like that, because yeah, absolutely they don't. 538 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: They all know the problems with the car. I never 539 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: had a problem with this car. I was shocked to 540 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: hear this diagnosing, Okay, how many miles around the car? 541 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: Sixty If it's sixty five miles and it's got a 542 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: leaky intake gasket, at some point, it will fail, plain 543 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: and simple. And you've got to decide do you wanna 544 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: do you want to replace it and avoid the problem, 545 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: or do you want to just drive it and take 546 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: the gamble. It's there's no magic pill here. Well, what 547 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: would happen if I drive it and take a gamble? 548 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: When I get like a fire an engine by it? 549 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: You could You could also you could also lose all 550 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: the coolant, you could develop an oil leak, you could 551 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: do serious engine damage without a fire, you could. I mean, 552 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: there's a couple of different scenarios. You're you're you're basically 553 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: you're you're basically asking me, you know, if you walk 554 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: across this this this tight rope without a safety net 555 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: in a high wind, What are the chances you're gonna 556 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: make it? And what could happen to you on the 557 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: way down? A lot of things. So you suggest that 558 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: I get it repaired, right, provided the rest of provided 559 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: the best of the car justifies the repair. It's fourteen 560 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: years old, you know, Yeah, well, okay, thirteen, let's not 561 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: split hairs, all right, but it's it's it's close enough 562 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: that it's it's it's just something to think about, all right. Again, 563 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: it depends upon degree of severity. All right. If your 564 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: mechanic could come back to you and said it's not 565 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: that bad, all right, I could. I could buy that. 566 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,239 Speaker 1: But for your mechanic to come back to you and 567 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: say it's not worth doing because it's too difficult to do, 568 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of a scary statement. So I would ask. 569 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: And this is a mechanic that I trusted, so everything 570 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: else is working on the cart, right, I understand that. 571 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: But you know what this is like? This is like 572 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: who you want to vote for to become president. Not 573 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: that this is a good analogy. You can't. You can't. 574 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: You can't believe what everybody says and just vote for 575 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: him on that basis. You've got to look at the 576 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: overall picture and that's the bottom for a couple of 577 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: months and like two or three months, and then I'll 578 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: consider repairing it. Right, But if you want to be 579 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: safe in that car, especially in the warmer weather, you 580 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: want to get that repaired. Zero mart on any of 581 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. What 582 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: this car is automatic, it's systematic, it's hard, dramatic. What's breeze? Lightning? 583 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back? Aren't any of the car doctor? Let's get 584 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: over and talk to Art in Maine. Oh seven Nissan 585 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: or Mata? Hey? Art? How are you sir? How can 586 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: I help? How you doing good? What's going on? Okay? 587 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: I have an old seven at eight thousand miles. I've 588 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: had it for about three years. Has always been a 589 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: deal of service until I bought it. Besides fluid changes, 590 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: what would you recommend to extend the life of the car? 591 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: My financial situation also my location, uh hips me from 592 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: going to a dealer, right, you know, it's all about 593 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: fluids at this stage and age or um. The biggest 594 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: thing I see this is a this is what a 595 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: V six are MODA? No, that's the five point six eight? Okay, 596 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: this is the V a there's a timing chain motor though, correct. Uh, No, 597 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you that. Yeah, I think this 598 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: is a chain motor. This is I think all the 599 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: Nissans of this generation are I'm always I'm always suspect 600 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: of Nissans as they age about chains, guides, intentioners, big 601 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: buck job and it can it can break the bank, 602 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: but it does have to be considered for longevity. Uh. 603 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: The issue is on a Nissan. The reason I'm very 604 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: cautious is their motor in the last fifteen years, if 605 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: not longer, are interference fit and if something breaks, you're done. 606 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: So you know you've got to look into that. And 607 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: probably the best way to know whether or not it 608 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: needs to change, the simplest way other than the name 609 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: badge on the side is when you started up and 610 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: drive it. How loud? Is it doesn't howl, doesn't have 611 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: a wind to it? Does it sound like a supercharger 612 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: like you're behind a New York City commuter bus? For 613 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: lack of a better way to explain it. If if 614 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: it's got that wine to it, then chance, then chances 615 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: are the chain, the chains and the tensioners are a problem. Um. 616 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: Do you have access to Facebook? Art. Yes, go out 617 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: to the car Doctor Facebook page and it's probably a 618 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: couple of posts back. But I put up some pictures 619 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: about a about an extra. I just did a set 620 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: of chains intentioners on and um, it's just amazing when 621 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: you look at how the the shoe or the guide 622 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: is worn down the better part of a quarter of 623 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: an inch, it's just like wow, because they make it 624 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: a cheap nylon. Uh, I was gonna ask you this nylon. Okay, 625 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: I don't. I used to have Suzuki dealership a long 626 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: time ago, and you know they all had chain drown 627 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: camp chafts and you could tell how they how loosely 628 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: were by rotating the clank and watching the end of 629 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: the camp Okay, if you've got more than uh, you know, 630 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, a couple of degrees uh lost motion there, 631 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: you know that it was bad, you know. And in 632 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: this case it's just you can tell by the howl 633 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: and the wine. But other than that, um, you know, 634 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: I would be aware of the radiator. Nissans had their 635 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: radiators radiator issues. These aren't as bad, but some of 636 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: the Nissans go through trans coolers inside the radiator and 637 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: creates any freeze and transmission issues. Other than that catalytic 638 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: converters be aware. But other than that you should be 639 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: good to go. I gotta go. I'm on any of 640 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: the car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive their prices, and 641 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: see you