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Listen to Too Many 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: Lawyers on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 11 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcastle's So Diary, John Annick, 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: Kenny Florian. 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Do you want a podcast, great spy have some audio 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: on your website that nobody goes to. 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: Here're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: Ah Little Sun Splash can flow on the video side 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: Today Monday February twenty four, twenty twenty, Episode two thirty 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: eight of the Anticiplorian podcast. Barry Foley scores about forty 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: eight forty seven. Felder, David let the Bee scores the 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: about forty eight forty seven Hooker, and Howard Hughes scores 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: the about forty eight forty seven For your winner by 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: split decision Dan the Hangman Hooker. It is such a 23 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: fine line in this sport, especially when you have two 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: lightweight contenders hoping for that first championship opportunity, both taking 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: part in their first UFC main event. Epics a strong adjective. 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: I thought it was an outstanding fight. Not a fight 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: of the year per se, but I thought it was 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: just a great, high level main event that had the 29 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: back and forth had it all, you know, for my 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: friend Paul Felder in broadcast partner, I certainly was happy 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: to see him shine on the biggest stage of his 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: career by far. You know, one thing I've always known 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: is that the moment wasn't going to be too big 34 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: for him. But Dan Hooker got off to a good 35 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: start Kenny in this fight, and ultimately that was enough 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: on two of the scorecards that matter. 37 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: I agree with pretty much everything you said. Man, It 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: was a tremendous fight. It was a high level fight, 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 4: really good technique back. 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 5: And forth between. 41 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 4: I think, you know, you really nailed it in regards 42 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: to the start for Dan Hooker, he just seemed to 43 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 4: be a little bit looser to start that fight. 44 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 5: He was way more relaxed. 45 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: He did a great job of establishing his jab and 46 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: not letting Felder into the range that he wanted to be. 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 4: And I thought that Felder actually loosened up and got 48 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 4: better as the fight went on. He was making the 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 4: proper adjustments and was finding success, especially with that left 50 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: hook that really had a hooker's jaw just not looking right. 51 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: Both of these men really showed so much heart, so 52 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: much determination, a lot of skill, uh, and it was 53 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 4: hard to see one of those guys lose at the 54 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 4: end of the night. You didn't want to see either 55 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 4: of those guys. Both those guys really did everything possible 56 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 4: to win that fight. You know, that was a tough 57 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 4: one man, and it may have come down to that 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 4: last fit, you know, that fifth round. 59 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: It was certainly a close fight. 60 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: Again, hard to say cartrovert because both men again did 61 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 4: everything they could. It was super close, but man, what 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 4: a fight. Neither of those guys lost that fight. Let's 63 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 4: put it that. 64 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: Way, so very quickly on the scorecards, because again, these 65 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: shows oftentimes go down this path where it's like an 66 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: MMA judging and scoring show, and that is not our intention. 67 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: Ken Flow hates that scoring discussion. I do so very 68 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 3: fully gave Hooker rounds one and two, then Felder three, 69 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: four and five. Leth the bye gave Hooker rounds one 70 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: through three, and then gave Paul Felder rounds four and five, 71 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: and then Howard Hughes. This is the scorecard, right, So 72 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: Hooker round one, Felder round two, hook around three, Felder 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: round four. So for Howard Hughes, he's sitting on a 74 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: tie scorecard going into the fifth round. And he gave 75 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: that fifth round to Dan Hooker. So as far as 76 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: I'm concerned, that is a Paul Felder round. It was 77 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: an effective striking round for the most part. I don't 78 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: know how you quantify the effectiveness of Dan Hooker's grappling. 79 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: To me, Dan Hooker was grappling because he was afraid 80 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: something really bad was gonna happen on the feet, So 81 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to call it desperation grappling. 82 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: He changed the narrative of that round, was able to 83 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: get a takedown. And I understand the Hooker fans out 84 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: there who say, hey, if you're Paul Felder in that 85 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: fifth round, stop that shot. Take that out of the equation. 86 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: To me, though, that round shouldn't have come down to 87 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 3: that late takedown. Your thoughts on round five. 88 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, I think that the takedown does matter. 89 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: Not only is it a takedown, but you know, again 90 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 4: your ability to control an opponent and take away their effectiveness. 91 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 4: I think a huge Felder was not going to be 92 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 4: able to land a lot of strikes on his back, 93 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: wasn't able to do a whole lot. I think the 94 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 4: aggression in seeking out that takedown was able allowed him 95 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 4: really to be effective in switching up the narrative a 96 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 4: little bit and getting Felder that much more frustrated and 97 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: taking away how effective he was. 98 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 5: And listen, it was close. 99 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 4: I thought Felder was winning the striking absolutely, but it 100 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 4: was still close. It wasn't to the point where it 101 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 4: was a dominant round for him. Was he edging out 102 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 4: Hooker on the feet, no doubt about it, right. I 103 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: talked along Ago this morning. 104 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: He feels like this fight was harder for him to 105 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: score than John Jones and Dominic Christ. Yeah, it was 106 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: very close on the feet, but certainly Dan Hooker got 107 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: off to a good start. Paul had some shining moments. 108 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: Of course, came very close on a few power shots 109 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: to maybe getting Hooker out of there. But again in 110 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: that fifth round. For people who suggest that the takedown 111 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: was the swing factor, I would not disagree with you. 112 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: I do believe if you're Howard Hughes sitting there. I 113 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: hate to speculate what a judge is thinking, Kenny, but 114 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: I think he saw it as a pretty close round 115 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 3: on the feet, not enough from one guy or the other, 116 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: and then that late takedown and what Dan Hooker was 117 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: able to do with it was enough for him. All right, 118 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: let's bring Ian Parker into the conversation. So Ken Flow, 119 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 3: by the way, did have Dan Hooker to win by decision? 120 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: You know you thought Ian going in that Hooker would 121 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: get the finish. Overall thoughts on those twenty five minutes 122 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: in Auckland over the weekend, my men, I was. 123 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 6: A great fight. 124 00:05:58,880 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 5: You know. 125 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 6: I hope Paul Felder to retire. I think there's still 126 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 6: plenty of fights for him. You know, it could easily 127 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 6: have gotten a NOD as well and got the win that, 128 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 6: you know, with a couple of interesting rounds that you know, 129 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 6: I felt like his way that obviously the judges didn't feel. 130 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 6: But overall, great fight. I think Dan Hooker is gonna, 131 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 6: you know, really have to use this and tune up 132 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 6: on some things because the way he fought against Felder 133 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 6: will not work against the rest of the division. I 134 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 6: can tell you that. But you know, hatch Off the 135 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 6: both guys incredible fight overall. 136 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: It's interesting because Paul Felder in his last two fights 137 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: has been on both sides of this emotional spectrum. And 138 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: I tweeted about it, right, but he's sitting in Abu Dhabi. 139 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: He just beats Edson Barbosa as usual. He can barely walk, 140 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: and you open up your Twitter machine and everybody's saying 141 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: you lost the fight right as you're eating a cheeseburger. 142 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 3: So it's like, fuck, man, I just want a comin 143 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: event against Edson Barbosa and everybody's telling me I lost. 144 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: Then this fight happens, right, crazy back and forth main event, 145 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: and he loses on the scorecards, and he's the apple 146 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: of everybody's eye. 147 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 6: You know. 148 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: It's just very interesting how emotionally you get hugely built 149 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: up when you lose a close fight and everybody tries 150 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: to tear you down when you double your paycheck and 151 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: win a close fight, which is why. 152 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 4: It's the worst idea ever to go on Twitter after 153 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 4: your fight. 154 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: Yes, or you're commentating I think you know or you 155 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: comment exact exactly so so Ian In terms of Hooker, 156 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: you know, for Felder, in his last two fights, he 157 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: has finished both fights as the fresher guy. If there 158 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: was a fourth round against Barbozi, he probably puts him away. 159 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: If there's a six round against Hooker, I think there's 160 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: a pretty good chance he's the better, more cardiovascularly inclined guy. 161 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: What didn't you like about the way Hooker fought Felder? 162 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: I heard you reference something there. 163 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 6: Well, no, I just don't think that. You know, he 164 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 6: was just getting touched off a lot. I think in 165 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 6: a fight against someone like a Justin Gagee, he gets 166 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 6: knocked out that situation. You know, we talked about him 167 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 6: using the range. His hands were a lot lower than 168 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 6: I'm used to seeing. Every time he was throwing that 169 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 6: outside think on Felderfelder was popping him with that right hand. 170 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 6: Hooker was getting hit more than I think I've seen 171 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 6: his entire career outside of the Barboza fight where he 172 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 6: just took all those leg kicks. You know, it was 173 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 6: almost the opposite, and it was just it was interesting 174 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 6: to see that. I just thought that Paul landed the 175 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 6: more significant, more damaging strikes. I know he doesn't wear 176 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 6: damage well in his face. That eye looked pretty clothed 177 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 6: rather quickly. Just I think the Dan Hooker some of 178 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 6: those shots. You know, again, I guess the guy like 179 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 6: dat Chie won't work. I mean he left himself open 180 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 6: for takedowns too. Paul just wasn't really looking for it, 181 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 6: you know, he was. I haven't seen Hooker on the 182 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 6: move that much like that. You know, he just seemed 183 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 6: like he was backing up, running around the lot. When 184 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 6: he was leading with his jab and throwing the combinations 185 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 6: that was working, and when he was throwing an outside 186 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 6: leg kick, and Kenny, I don't know if you felt 187 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 6: the same way when he was throwing that calf kick 188 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 6: almost he was getting hit really hard with his hands 189 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 6: just were down and he wasn't changing it at all. 190 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 6: You know, there was a couple of times where he 191 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 6: got caught in the combination and Feldo kephitting with that 192 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 6: left hook also, and Dan just wasn't changing anything. So 193 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 6: I felt, like I said, in another fight against a 194 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 6: guy who may have some more aggressive, powerful striking and 195 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 6: a guy like gains you throws massive leg kicks, I 196 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 6: think Hooker will be in trouble. 197 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 4: You know, I agree with some of that. I think 198 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 4: that you're wrong about the footwork in a lot of ways. 199 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 4: I would argue that because he kept circling, that's what 200 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 4: that's what did not allow Felder to come forward, that's 201 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 4: what made him hesitant for the majority of that fight. 202 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 5: If he wasn't moving, Felder was going to eat him up, period. 203 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 4: Like you know, that's what Felder does best, his ability 204 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 4: to get on the inside and bust you up with 205 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 4: elbow's knees, all that stuff. I think, actually, Hooker did 206 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 4: a pretty decent job early on of circling for the 207 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 4: majority of that fight. I thought when he stayed stable 208 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: is when he was getting hit. I think those shots 209 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: early on, off of the leg kicks, I would argue 210 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: the leg kicks were a little bit more effective against 211 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 4: Felder than the shots were. 212 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. 213 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: I think when Hooker stopped throwing the kicks, that's when 214 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 4: he actually started getting beat up. 215 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 5: In my opinion, But you know that's the way well, 216 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 5: I know. 217 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 6: And I don't disagree with him circle why he was 218 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 6: And I don't mean when he was stationed. I'm just 219 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 6: saying that when he was moving back and forth, right. 220 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 6: He was kind of doing it a little too prematurely. 221 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 6: I felt he was kind of exiting his combinations quickly 222 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 6: because he was getting tagged. You know, if you watch, 223 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 6: he was landing that straight left off the jab when 224 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 6: he doubled it, and then he circled it and the right, 225 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 6: and then when he threw the right hand, he kind 226 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 6: of went back. Like I said, I just felt like 227 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 6: when he came forward a little bit more. Trust me, 228 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 6: I don't know, I agree with you. He was getting tagged, 229 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 6: and those leg takes, the castics, they were effective, but 230 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 6: it was almost like he was getting one to give one, 231 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 6: you know. Yeah, either, I'm just saying his hands were 232 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 6: just kept very low the whole fight. 233 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 234 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 4: I think the way that he was exiting, he was 235 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: exiting over to his right, which was getting him caught 236 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 4: with that left hook. I think that was more the 237 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 4: problem than anything else, and Felder really started eating him 238 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: up with that hook. Man Again, I hope Hooker's jaws Okay. 239 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 4: I don't know if we have any reports on whether 240 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 4: it was broken. 241 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: Or not, but yeah, man, I thought there was an 242 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: orbital or a thing racial fracture very early on in 243 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: this fight. I think it was an elbow, Kenny. I 244 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: don't know what the weapon was, but you saw that 245 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: protrusion very early on in the fight. Quickly on Paul 246 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: Felder's future, because I do want to get to Deontay 247 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: Wilder and Tyson Fury before we let Ian go and 248 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: make way for Ray Longo. So in terms of Felder's 249 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: fighting future, right, I don't like seeing guys cut a 250 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: bunch of weight. I know what Paul Felder has to 251 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: go through over nine to ten weeks to make one 252 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 3: fifty five. So the reason why retirement is at the 253 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: front of his brain on a night like this is 254 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 3: because he's in this to win a championship, to get 255 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: a UFC title shot, not unlike you, Kenny, right, and 256 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: so like your last UFC fight was a championship fight, 257 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it's like for Paul 258 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 3: at this point in time, if this is going to 259 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: be a loss and matchmaking is going to proceed accordingly, 260 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: then at fifty five, I don't know that he sees 261 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: the upside. There are big fights at seventy, but he 262 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: also has the broadcasting career and potentially could go. 263 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 5: Back to acting. 264 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: I think it it's easy for his manager Brian Butler 265 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: and Duke Rufus to quickly dismiss that retirement talk, and 266 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: I respect it, but I don't see the upside for 267 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: Paul at this point in cutting down to one hundred 268 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: and fifty five fifty six pounds three or four more times, 269 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: you know, at thirty five plus years of age. And 270 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: that's why I hope he he grabs a microphone and 271 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 3: chills up. 272 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: I agree with you, John Listen. This is a brutal 273 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 4: sport to begin with. He's had a lot of wars 274 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 4: in his career. Just his fighting style, that's probably what's 275 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 4: going to happen at more times than anything else. And 276 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: I think Felder has proven himself as a fighter repeatedly 277 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 4: as far as his heart, his determination. He's become a 278 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 4: popular fighter because of that style. He has a career 279 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 4: now as a commentator. He can do that for the 280 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: rest of his life. And you know, it depends on 281 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: why he's in this. Is he in this sport to 282 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 4: just fight and make money, Well, okay, he can. 283 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 5: Continue fighting for me, and I'll speak for myself. 284 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: I was in it to try to become a world champion, 285 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: and you know, at that point when I was injured 286 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 4: and had already fought for the bell three times. 287 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 5: It just wasn't worth it. 288 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: I wasn't going to destroy my body to continue doing 289 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: something that I didn't think was going to be really 290 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 4: possible at that point. You know, for Felder losing at 291 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 4: fifty five against someone like Hooker, you know, and you know, 292 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 4: going up to one hundred and seventy pounds and having 293 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 4: to deal with all those guys, there are so many 294 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 4: people unfortunately ahead of him, both at one fifty five 295 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: and one hundred and seventy pounds. That title, you know, 296 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 4: shot is just not gonna come probably for the next 297 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 4: two years. Even if he was undefeated for the next 298 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: two years, it would still probably be difficult for him. 299 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 4: So that's tough man. He's got He's got a daughter 300 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 4: to take care of, a family to take care of. 301 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 4: He can go and make a bunch of money as 302 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 4: a commentator. He's done amazing things in the sport, So 303 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 4: you know, why would you continue if it's going to 304 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 4: be that much more. 305 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 5: Difficult to be a champion. 306 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: And if Paul Felder had won this fight, it's not 307 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: out of the realm of possibility that he would have 308 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: gotten the Justin Gatchee fight, But I just am not 309 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: convinced that gay Chee was to take that fight anyway. 310 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: So you can argue that Felder might not lose too 311 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: much in terms of his next fight, right it could 312 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: be Ally Aquinta. I think there's a lot of legs 313 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: for that fight because it was made before and it 314 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: didn't materialize. They're both in trench there in the top ten, 315 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: but the path obviously got longer on the back end 316 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: of this split decision loss. What do you think is 317 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: next for the iron lung Paul Felder. 318 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 6: I love that you're still pushing that nickname. 319 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 5: I'm with it. 320 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 6: I like it. You know, there is one name that 321 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 6: I would throw out there if the UFC was able 322 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 6: to make this happen. I don't think it's gonna happen. 323 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 6: I just think it'd be a good transition for him 324 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 6: because essentially, this opponent I'm going to name fight at 325 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 6: fifty five but doesn't like to cut weight. Imagine Paul 326 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 6: Felder versus Nyds. You know, for me, I think that's 327 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 6: a winnable fight for Paul Felder to get fight me 328 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 6: at one to seventy both or really fifty five ers, 329 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 6: and to make that's a money making fight for him, 330 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 6: and if he wins, that's a great name on his resume, 331 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 6: you know. But I do agree with you. You kind 332 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 6: of beat me to the punch. If he stays at 333 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 6: fifty five, Ali and Quinta would make a lot of sense, 334 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 6: you know. But to Kenny's point, I don't really see 335 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 6: what there is left for him at fifty five. You 336 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 6: know that table, that line is very, very long, you know, 337 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 6: it really is. And at seventy I think there's more 338 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 6: maybe money fights that fit to his style a little bit, 339 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 6: you know, outside of Dustin Pourrier stand up wise and 340 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 6: like a Tony Ferguson, a guy like Kabeb, which again, 341 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 6: Fellader's not going to get to We'll wrestle him to death. 342 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 6: So he's got a lot of good thus for him. 343 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 6: On the side, if you want to keep fighting, I 344 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 6: think there's just a couple of names out there that 345 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 6: for him. I would just try to make as much 346 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 6: money as possible, because either one of those divisions is 347 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 6: a long line to get to the title, regardless even 348 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 6: at welterweight. You know that division's all sorts of screwed 349 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 6: up as well. 350 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: And Ken full on the hooker side, I mean This 351 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: puts him in prime position in most divisions. But we 352 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: talk about this one hundred and fifty five pound log 353 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: jamp made even tighter by the fact that there are 354 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: just a lot of big names that traditionally have long layoffs. 355 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: What do you think is next for Hooker and ultimately 356 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 3: what do you think the lightweight seal is for him? 357 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: Well, listen, I think Dan Hooker gained a lot of 358 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: fans with this fight against Dan Felder, against Paul Felder, sorry, 359 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 4: and you know, just the way that he competed out there, 360 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 4: the kind of heart that he showed I thought was 361 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 4: really impressive. I do not like that fight against Justin 362 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 4: Geechee though. I think if he fought that same way 363 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: against Gee Chee, it would most likely not go so 364 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: well for him. He'd have to adjust his style, I 365 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: think significantly. But listen, I think it's not a bad fight. 366 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 4: It would be a huge fight for him. You know, 367 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 4: if he fought someone like Gai Chie, I don't think 368 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: he's ready for someone like that. I think he should, 369 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 4: you know, probably find someone else and then you know, 370 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: maybe one fight then perhaps ge Chee or someone near 371 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 4: the top five. 372 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 5: But it was a huge win for him. 373 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 4: Against a tough opponent in Paul Felder, and you know, 374 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a way more popular 375 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 4: fighter now, that's for sure. 376 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: Valuable twenty five minutes of fight time game by both guides, 377 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 3: and certainly both raised their stock. We'll see what happens 378 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: with Felder and Hooker and we will get Ray Longo's 379 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: thoughts on that fight coming up here shortly. But I 380 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 3: do want to get your collective thoughts on Deontay Wilder 381 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 3: versus Tyson Fury. I guess we should talk about the 382 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: fight first and then everything that the night encapsulated later, 383 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 3: because I do think it was a big night for 384 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 3: boxing overall, even though for me there's just not nearly 385 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 3: enough meat on the bone compared to a UFC pay 386 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: per view. But I don't want to steal their thunder 387 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 3: at all. As far as the fight is concerned, Kenny 388 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: Tyson Fury fought brilliantly. This fight was was more one 389 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: sided than a lot of people thought it was gonna be. 390 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: Deontay Wilder closed a slight betting favorite, Fury was absolutely 391 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: brilliant and as such he is the talk of the 392 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: town here on a Monday, kid, which you think of 393 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 3: the boxing pay per view over the weekend. 394 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 4: You know, heading into that fight, I think it was 395 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 4: pretty clear to everybody, even in the first fight, who 396 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 4: the better boxer was, and that was Tyson Fury. This 397 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 4: is the guy who knows how to get in, get 398 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 4: out adapt during a fight. He's very impressive, both defensively 399 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 4: and offensively. He knows how to use that gigantic frame, 400 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 4: and he's the only guy who's gonna be taller and 401 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 4: bigger than someone like Deontay Wilder, and he certainly used 402 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 4: that in that fight. What I was surprised with was 403 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 4: just his aggression in that fight and. 404 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 5: How he was moving forward. 405 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 4: He didn't play the counterfighter really like he did in 406 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 4: that first fight. He went forward right behind that job. 407 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 4: He was landing that one two with a lot of 408 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 4: success and confidence. He just knew he was gonna go 409 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 4: out there and take him out. I mean, he just 410 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 4: had that vibe about him. Really took control early on 411 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 4: and seemed to have Deontay Wilder just completely confused and 412 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 4: off balance throughout that fight, not only from the shots 413 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 4: that he was landing in and around the ear, but 414 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 4: also just due to his feints. His ability to get 415 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 4: in and out and slip out to the side. He 416 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 4: was leaning on him, just making Wilder suffer for each 417 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 4: and every second of that fight, and he just seemed 418 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 4: to turn it out, turn it on round after owned 419 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 4: after round. I was blown away by that Typson Theory performance. 420 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 4: And uh, that is the best heavyweight boxer in the world. 421 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 4: And you put into the context of everything that he 422 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 4: has dealt with as far as the adversity and his 423 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 4: personal life of you know, coming back from you know, 424 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 4: being addicted and uh, you know, uh, you know, the 425 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 4: all all the issues with you know, you know, dealing 426 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 4: with depression and all. I mean, it's just amazing what 427 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: he has dealt with and how he has come back 428 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 4: to establish himself as the best best heavyweight boxer on 429 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 4: the planet. 430 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 5: It's unbelievable. 431 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: He is certainly that. And Ian Parker there's no way 432 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 3: you're gonna get him at five to one by knockout 433 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: in his next fight, no matter whom it's against. 434 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 5: Uh. 435 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 3: I know it was closer to three to one at close, 436 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: but uh did have a little scratch on Tyson Fury 437 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 3: by knockout at five to one. What did you think 438 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 3: over all of the boxing pay per view? And Uh 439 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: am I the only one who pays for these things 440 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 3: can flow. Everybody seems to be getting a free scream. 441 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 5: I paid. 442 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: I paid my seventy nine ninety nine. God damn it. 443 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 6: Yeah I didn't say I didn't pay to say at 444 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 6: ninety nine my buddy over the leg and I streamed 445 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 6: the shit out of that thing. You know, Yeah, listen, 446 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 6: I can't justify justify paying that because what if Wilder 447 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 6: knocked him out in the first minute, or what if 448 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 6: we had a boring fight. It's like fuck. And this 449 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 6: is why I never used to pay for Ronda Rausi 450 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 6: fights when people couldn't figure out how to defended arm 451 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 6: bar just it was terrible. But you know, this fight, though, 452 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 6: I think they did a lot for boxing in the 453 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 6: heavyweight division because it lived up to the hype as 454 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 6: the first one did. Tyson Fury. The story is amazing. 455 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 6: What a great personality to do this for the sport. 456 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 6: You know, a couple of nights before he was on 457 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 6: that roundtable they do and he discussed how he was 458 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 6: gonna take it for Wilder, that he was gonna knock 459 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 6: him out in the second round, and everyone thought he 460 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 6: was just fucking around playing mind games. But he really 461 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 6: just I mean the weight game people were concerned about that. 462 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 6: I thought so too, because he's usually very light on 463 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 6: his feet and then now he was gonna move around 464 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 6: at two seventy three. But he just put on a show. 465 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 6: And I guess that punch behind the ear his ear 466 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 6: drumb was not preparated and he didn't suffer a broken jaw, 467 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 6: but obviously it threw his balance off so much his 468 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 6: body shots that were landing. Fury just fought perfectly. He 469 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 6: just fought the best fight of his life against a 470 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 6: guy that could turn that fight around with that right 471 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 6: hand at any time, and that was incredible. You know 472 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 6: what's next for him? They talked about Anthony Joshua, but 473 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 6: I know Wilder has an immediate rematching his claw clause 474 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 6: in his contract. I try to hope that doesn't happen. 475 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 6: I'd rather see Fury fight Joshua first before another Wilder fight. 476 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 6: But man, good for Fury. You know that that photo 477 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 6: of him keeps floating around the internet right now of 478 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 6: him looking like fat bastard from Boston Powers, and you know, 479 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 6: to get cleaned up, to drop all that weight, come 480 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 6: back and do what he did, and the way he 481 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 6: came back in the first fight. Let's not forget that. 482 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 6: What I mean incredible. I don't think he's gonna win 483 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 6: back the world the boxing to be bigger than MMA, 484 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 6: but it did a ton for it. I mean, everyone 485 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 6: their mother was definitely watching Tyson Fury. 486 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: That may, oh doubt staying up late on the East coast. 487 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 3: Nothing easy about it. But the Europeans don't want to 488 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 3: hear that noise, that's for sure. All right, Ian Parker, 489 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: appreciate the time, buddy. We we obviously have John MMA 490 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 3: Charity Challenge winner making picks today, but we will talk 491 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 3: to you next Monday for the pay per view UFC 492 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 3: two forty eight. 493 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 6: Man, have a good week, you got it, man taking 494 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 6: these guys. 495 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: So Ken Flow Teddy Atlas was very critical Sunday morning 496 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 3: of Deontay Wilder, and I'd imagine if I was ingesting 497 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: more boxing content, I would have heard some of this 498 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: criticism leading up to the fight. But he just said, 499 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 3: Deontay Wilder, he's not a fighter, He's not a good fighter. 500 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: Was really denigrating the skills, you know, and he just 501 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 3: says he's you know, he's a born puncher, right like, 502 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: born with natural power and there's no denying that. But 503 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 3: we didn't necessarily see an evolution. I mean it was 504 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: he was flat throughout. I know he was compromised early, 505 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 3: but one man's triumph is another man's pain, and this 506 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: was about us forgettable showcase. Nitas could have possibly transpired 507 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: for water. 508 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 5: It was tough. 509 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 4: Well listen, you know he was truly exposed. I don't 510 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 4: think anybody out there thought that Deontay Walder was this 511 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 4: insane boxer to that. I think he was always kind 512 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: of criticized as that he was that guy though that 513 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: if he landed one shot perfectly, he could end the 514 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 4: fight in an instant, and that is always impressive to people. 515 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 4: Had what the highest I think boxing knockout percentage in 516 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 4: heavyweight history and heavyweight championship history, and it was impressive 517 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 4: to watch. But against Tyson Fury, he just never really 518 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: had the ability to land those shots, and Fury really 519 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 4: exposed him. Deontay Wilder did not make the proper adjustments. 520 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 4: You know, again, I think the commentators were talking about this, 521 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 4: but why aren't you getting better? Yes, just because something works, 522 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 4: and this goes throughout everything in combat. Just because something 523 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 4: works right now doesn't mean it's going to work later. 524 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 4: Why isn't while they're working on new skills. Why is 525 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 4: he and tried it? Why isn't he trying to improve 526 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 4: as a boxer. 527 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't get it again. 528 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: And if you look at that fight, you say, if 529 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 4: there's one guy who could have made adjustments to go 530 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 4: out there and win this fight, everyone thought it was 531 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 4: gonna be wilder if he just makes a few adjustments. 532 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 5: You saw him. 533 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: He started to tag Fury late in the fight, had 534 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 4: him out of there. He just didn't make those adjustments, 535 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 4: didn't learn from that first fight, didn't improve, didn't come 536 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 4: back with anything significant. It looked like he was just 537 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 4: looking for that right hand repeatedly, and of course it 538 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 4: really never came. He landed it here and there, But 539 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 4: again it's a huge guy, like a two hundred and 540 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 4: seventy three pound Fury. You're gonna it's gonna take more 541 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: than several big shots. 542 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 3: Well, in anything you're doing right, you're trying to get better. 543 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: Like our podcast is pretty regimented, right, there specific things 544 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: that we do do every week. But even though we 545 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 3: don't try to reinvent the wheels like we're you're trying 546 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 3: to get better. You're trying to make the content as 547 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: good as possible every week, no matter what you're doing. Well, 548 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: congratulations to Sison Fury. Long go here in two minutes. 549 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 5: Quickly. 550 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 3: They wanted to get your thoughts on just the night 551 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: as a whole for boxing, because it's obviously a whole 552 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 3: different take on the West coast, right, So some of 553 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 3: this that you're gonna hear right now is probably dad 554 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: who wakes up at five thirty am Eastern, who's just 555 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 3: fighting it to stay awake, but just not nearly enough 556 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 3: meat on the bone for me as far as the 557 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 3: whole night was concerned. Now it's being celebrated as this 558 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: huge night for boxing, and I would preface it by 559 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: saying that I got into mixed martial arts as a 560 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 3: boxing radio journalist. I have covered twenty five HBO pay 561 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 3: per views boxing, right, so there was a time when 562 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 3: I was obsessed with boxing. That time has passed. Even 563 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: this fight that really was great, Way too much Kenny Baylists, 564 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 3: way too much referee, way too much holding for me. 565 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: I've seen Floyd Mayweather come out on a throne, which 566 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: was awesome seeing it live in person, Tyson Fury coming 567 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: out as the King was dope. Of course, lasted way 568 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: longer than I thought it should. You know, Deontay Wilder 569 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: seemed gassed by the time they took his costume off. 570 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I mean, like I just for me, 571 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: this night should be celebrated. I never thought boxing was dead. 572 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 3: I do believe the sport can grab the sports world 573 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: by the balls a few times a year. But overall, 574 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: for me, you know, I think the night as a 575 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: hole is a touch overrated. And I know that's not 576 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: popular opinion, right listen. 577 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 5: I can definitely agree with some of the things you said. 578 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 4: Again, the walkouts were a little bit over the top, 579 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: a little bit ridiculous. You know, I can appreciate that 580 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 4: to a certain extent. But you know, if you're waiting 581 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 4: thirty minutes for a fight to get started, it's like, 582 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 4: you know, I don't know, you kind of let the 583 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 4: helium out of balloon a little bit, so, you know, 584 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 4: and especially if you're watching on the East Coast, you're 585 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 4: just exhausted. By the time the fight starts. You're like, 586 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 4: come on, let's get this started. And you know, the 587 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 4: fight itself, I thought was great. It was a good 588 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 4: night for boxing in general. But like you said you're 589 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 4: only gonna get a few of those a year, and 590 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 4: you know that's the unfortunate thing. And just getting those 591 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 4: fights to get signed, it's a difficult thing in boxing. 592 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 5: No doubt. 593 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: And I'm not asking for this deep undercard, right. I 594 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 3: was the radio journalist who would show up for the 595 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: first boxing prelim of the night when the broadcasters weren't 596 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: in there, and I'm scoring those fights and everything else. Right, 597 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 3: But if you're gonna have undercard fighters and fights on, 598 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 3: I just think boxing still gets so many things wrong. 599 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 3: If you're gonna have these guys on, why not talk 600 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: about them and their stories as they're fighting. Yeah, instead 601 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 3: of showing the hand wraps for Deontay Wilder, I mean, 602 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: give the fighters who are actually fighting the respect. I 603 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: just don't understand in twenty twenty why that's still going on. 604 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 3: But uh, Ray Longo probably doesn't understand why he's still 605 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: on hold. So let us get to the Ray Longo minute. 606 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes. 607 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna points a hole in his fucking such. 608 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: On the Ray long minute during May Lock the John 609 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: Nick and Kenny Florian podcast. 610 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: Ray, you know, sorry for the morass of negativity. I 611 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: sound like a curmudgeonly old man at times, but I 612 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, maybe I just wasn't drinking enough 613 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: on Saturday night. I thought the fight itself was great, 614 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: but give me a UFC pay per view over that 615 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 3: shit every day of the goddamn week. 616 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 7: Hey, listen, it was a good surprise for boxing. I 617 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 7: was listening to your commentary. I didn't even see the walkouts. 618 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 7: You know, I'm moving around the house, I'm doing things. 619 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 7: So I just got back just to watch the fight. 620 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 7: So I heard he came out on the throne, but 621 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 7: I didn't see it, and that probably would have driven 622 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 7: me crazy. You know, I don't know. I just watched 623 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 7: the fight from the first round to whatever. I thought. 624 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 7: The two big guys that Fury's boxing skills for a 625 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 7: guy that size the phenomenal. 626 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 3: Yeah right. No, don't have enough good things, obviously to 627 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: say about Tyson Fury's performance. As far as the Felder 628 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: Hooker main event was concerned, Ray, I know we spoke 629 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: earlier and you thought it was an exceedingly difficult fight 630 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: to score. I think sometimes it's hard for fans scoring 631 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 3: at home when they see the judges scorecards, Kenny, and 632 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: then they say, all right, I had Felder rounds two, 633 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: four and five. I had Hooker rounds one and three. 634 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 3: I feel pretty convicted, and not a single of the 635 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 3: three judges had it, for example the way I ray. Nonetheless, 636 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 3: we sit here on a Monday after another very close, 637 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 3: very exciting UFC headline. 638 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, listen, it's one of those fights where absolutely 639 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 7: was no loser. But I thought Felder gutted that out 640 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 7: and he was moving forward every figure, every gut by 641 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 7: the jib and hooker, his movement slowed down a little bit. 642 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 7: He connected with the biggest shots by far. I don't 643 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 7: think the CAF kicks farmed him, and I think when 644 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 7: Felder started packing hook his leg it had a big 645 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 7: impact on his movement. So I don't know, man. It 646 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 7: was a great fight by both guys. But if I 647 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 7: was scoring it, I would have given it to Felder. 648 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 7: But I can see it going either way. 649 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: No problem, Kenny, when you fight twenty five minutes, and 650 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: I guess I'm just wondering how convicted in a close 651 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: fight guys are in the moment that they have done 652 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 3: enough to win, because I sure as shit. Two days 653 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 3: remove Paul Felder really thinks he won that fight, but 654 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 3: in the moment, you know, he was very humble in 655 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: defeat and not at all upset with the judges. Right, 656 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: But I think after having some separation, Ray Paul really 657 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 3: feels like he won this fight. But in the moment, 658 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: he didn't use that as an opportunity to scream from 659 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 3: the rooftops that he had been you know, harmed in 660 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: any way. 661 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 6: Right. 662 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 7: Well, look, look, he knows it was a close fight 663 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 7: either way. But what happens in that situation is you're 664 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 7: walking back and your coaches and people start talking to you, 665 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 7: did this, you did that, you won the fight, So 666 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 7: that he's being influenced after the fact. I think at 667 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 7: the time he gave that humble statements, he knew he 668 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 7: was in a great dog fight. It could have won 669 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 7: either way. He's in the guy's backyard, and I think 670 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 7: that's what he was expressing. And but then you know, 671 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 7: in hindsight, you know, as you're walking back, your coaches 672 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 7: are going, you were robbed and you did this, and 673 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 7: he didn't do that, you know, and all that type 674 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 7: of stuff, and then you start, you know, changing the 675 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 7: narrative in your own head because you have a different 676 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 7: You have a lot of opinions, but look, I had 677 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 7: told the winning the fight. He has every right to 678 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 7: he he has every right to think he won that fight, 679 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 7: and I think Cooka has and I don't know, I 680 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 7: think held the one to fight. 681 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, Kenny, you were very dominant in most 682 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: of your career wins, but like in the Jose Aldo fight, 683 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 3: right like I felt like you were maybe up to 684 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 3: one after three if memory serves, like, do you know 685 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 3: after those twenty five minutes, like, did you like what 686 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: were you feeling in that moment? 687 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 4: It was tough, you know, Listen, I don't think I 688 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 4: I thought I should have done more in some of 689 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 4: those rounds. You know, I feel like in that five 690 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 4: round fight, it also can be a tremendous blur, so 691 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 4: it's hard to kind of keep track of what's going on. 692 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 4: And when it is a close fight, man, you really 693 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 4: don't know. And I think that that was a part 694 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 4: of it. I also think that you know, Felder, you know, 695 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: being coached during those corners, he understood he needed to 696 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 4: really go forward and win those rounds. He knew how 697 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 4: close that fight was based on what Rufus was telling him, 698 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 4: So you know, in the moment when you're taking damage 699 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: and you're not quite sure how the judges are singing it, 700 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 4: I think you're gonna be a little bit more reserved 701 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 4: and not going to be so appalled by by the 702 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 4: scorecard going the other way. 703 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, And the other thing is, you know, and it 704 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 7: shouldn't have any effect on anything, but he got bloodied 705 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 7: up early. I think he's got that type of skin 706 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 7: that reddens, and I think you know, from if you're 707 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 7: looking at who who won the fight that way, obviously 708 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 7: you know it doesn't look good for Felder, but I 709 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 7: don't know, you know, what his damage is are. But 710 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 7: you know, like again, he was getting popped with that Jeb, 711 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 7: So you know, I think once he figured that out 712 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 7: and the other guy slowed down, I thought he started 713 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 7: taking over. But it was a great fight, you know, 714 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 7: really was. But you know, I think during the fight, 715 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 7: Felda look like he was taking the worst damage, which 716 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 7: I don't know if that's actually the case, but I 717 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 7: think that could have a little impact, you know. 718 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I thought Paul won that second round, but 719 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 3: it's not out of the realm of possibility that he 720 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 3: dropped the first three round, right, I mean, he was 721 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: down three nil on David let the b scorecards. So Ray, 722 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put you on the spot here a little bit, 723 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: Not that you would have much for me. I know, 724 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 3: Ali a Quinta is trying to reel in a big fight, 725 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: but this Feldery a Quinta fight sort of should happen. 726 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: It deserves to happen. It was on the books, and 727 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: then Al was pulled to fight Kabib. I don't know 728 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 3: what Felder's appetite is to cut down to one hundred 729 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 3: and fifty five pounds several more times, but it would 730 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 3: seem to me like the calendar might just aligned for 731 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: these two boys to to finally fight. What do you 732 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 3: think about Alan Felder finally getting it? 733 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 7: Well, like you say, it was, it was supposed to happen. 734 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 7: But I don't know if the calendar is gonna relign 735 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 7: because I think Felder's gonna take some time. Yeah, fight now, 736 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 7: So we'll see what happens with that. But you know, 737 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 7: he's it looks like he's drying to get a fight 738 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 7: within two months. To me, he's, you know, going back 739 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 7: and forth. But if the line's and the lines, obviously 740 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 7: it'll be a great fight. Two guys are gonna throw 741 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 7: down and they have a common an opponent, so yeah, 742 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,239 Speaker 7: we'll see. But I think I look, I don't think 743 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 7: Felder's retiring, even though he said it. But you know 744 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 7: what it's like, you know, little children, Brian, when you 745 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 7: leave the house and then you got to go to 746 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 7: Australia and you you know, it's a tough fight. Who 747 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 7: knows what he's gonna do. But I don't think he'll 748 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 7: retire you. But I believe his sentiment at the time 749 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 7: was for real. 750 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we've all been there, you know what I mean. 751 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 7: And you know those kids could break your heart, you know. 752 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And you're right, Ray, the calendar almost assuredly 753 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 3: is not going to align if Al wants to get 754 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 3: one in here quickly. But uh yeah no. Felder's daughter, Ashley, 755 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 3: I think, is four years old right now, and you've 756 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 3: missed a lot already, you know what I mean. And 757 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 3: the other thing too, is that a training camp for 758 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 3: a super fight of sorts, that's probably the wrong adjective, 759 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 3: but for a selective fight at one hundred and seventy pounds, 760 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 3: it just takes on an entirely different thing. He has 761 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 3: to completely isolate himself to make fit fifty five where 762 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 3: maybe he could cheat that a little bit and still 763 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 3: have a productive training camp, be in home with his daughter. 764 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 4: You know, kill yourself to make one hundred and fifty 765 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 4: five pounds basically suffer for months or go up to 766 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 4: one seventy where you're going to take even more damage. 767 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 5: So I know that's a tough one. Man, that is 768 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 5: a tough one. 769 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 4: He's already again established himself as a top lightweight and 770 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 4: excellent fighter in two divisions. He's a talented guy who 771 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 4: can go ahead and do a lot of different things. 772 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 4: I think he's thinking about doing a lot of those 773 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 4: other things and spending more time with his family. 774 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, yeah, I felt that was heartfelt what 775 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 7: he said. I'm I'm agreeing with Kenny on that. I 776 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 7: think he and again, I think we've all been there 777 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 7: with little kids. It's it's you've got to make some 778 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 7: really hard decisions. 779 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 6: Man. 780 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 7: I know it sounds crazy, but uh yeah, I don't know, 781 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 7: you know. 782 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so al Jamn Sterling, Yodri, Jan, Cory Sandhagen, Magic, Marlon, 783 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 3: but I chose Aldo. They're all chasing Henry Sahudo. I 784 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 3: don't know what Henry's chasing if it's uh, it's a 785 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 3: seven figure pay day or what it is? But can 786 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 3: can we get some finality? Can we get a fight 787 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 3: booking at one hundred and thirty five pounds? 788 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 5: Ray? 789 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 3: Like, what is going on here? 790 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 7: I think they listen. I think they're trying. 791 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 5: I don't know. I was. 792 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 7: I was more clear three or four weeks ago, when 793 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 7: ye right now, I'm not so clear. So who knows? 794 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 8: I don't know. 795 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 3: I have no life of a fighter just waiting around 796 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 3: for a fight like Cory Sandhagen and Justin Gaetchee, all 797 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 3: these guys just sitting around waiting for a fight and 798 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 3: a high profile, huge life swinging fight at that, it's 799 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 3: got to be torture, just sitting waiting for the call. 800 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 7: I would think so, And I say, I think these 801 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 7: guys are put in a position where they earned the 802 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 7: right for a big fight, and some of these guys 803 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 7: aren't making the huge money yet, so it becomes a 804 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 7: business decision. Also, do you say active? 805 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 6: Do you wait? 806 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 7: You know I've earned the right, but I want to 807 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 7: be active, but I don't want to fight for this 808 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 7: amount of money. 809 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 6: Who knows. 810 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 7: I mean, there's a lot that goes into it, and 811 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 7: I'll tell you, before you know it, man, those years 812 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 7: starts flying by, you know. 813 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's tough man. All right, buddy, Well, hey, 814 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 3: thanks for the time. Thanks for shuffling your schedule for 815 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 3: us a little bit. We're still trying to get you 816 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 3: that video component there in Garden City, New York. At 817 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: some point, I mean it's embarrassing that we're five years in, 818 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 3: but at some point, with the YouTube channel launched just 819 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 3: a few weeks ago, we're gonna get you all set 820 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 3: up at your gym so that you look like a 821 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 3: real podcast co host. 822 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,479 Speaker 7: Let me tell you, man, I will do up my hand, 823 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 7: put on my lipstick, and let's get going. That was 824 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 7: a sorry. 825 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 5: Get a nice ruby red. It will look great. 826 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 7: All right, guys, listen, man, enjoy today. It's beautiful here 827 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 7: in New York. It's February sixty degrees. I can't believe it. 828 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 7: I'm going out to enjoy the day. 829 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 5: Let's go there. 830 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 3: He is here right with us every week here on 831 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 3: the Anakin floor in podcasts. Now, I'm going to New 832 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 3: York City, Connecticut area on Friday, it says, uh, looking 833 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 3: at Low's and the teens this weekend, so I want 834 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,959 Speaker 3: my kids to fucking freeze. That's the goal, right, They'll 835 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 3: be properly clothed, but I want them to go to 836 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 3: New England and understand why we live in South Florida. 837 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 5: Honey, It's just how your dad grew up right here. 838 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, see these hard knuckles kids, But it is weird, 839 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 3: right like living in the Cole for thirty years, moved 840 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 3: to Vegas, moved to Florida. Now I don't know if 841 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 3: I could go back, but of course my kids want 842 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 3: to live where it snows. So we're hoping that they 843 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 3: experienced that chill this weekend and think otherwise. Yeah, let's 844 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 3: still after So in terms of the bantamweight stuff, just 845 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 3: to put a bow on that because we brought it 846 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 3: up with Ray. You know, there were rumblings that made 847 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 3: maybe al Jamain Sterling was going to fight Pyeodrijan. Then 848 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 3: the Corey Sandhagen fight started to gain some legs, you know, 849 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 3: Magic Marland. But ice factors in this mix, as does 850 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 3: Jose Aldo, who is likely going to get Henry Shudo, 851 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 3: you would think in Brazil. I don't believe that fight 852 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 3: has been a now yet. Dominic Cruz is on a 853 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 3: trajectory that would have him return in May or June. 854 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of big fights. But to raise point, Kenny, 855 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 3: you have guys who have a body of work like 856 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 3: Yon or Sterling that suggests maybe they've earned a title 857 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 3: shot already. You have Sanhagen, who is maybe the toughest 858 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 3: fight in the division for a lot of these guys 859 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 3: who they would strategically try to avoid, so it becomes 860 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 3: very difficult to get these fights in a pen put to. 861 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 4: Paper, absolutely and again, just go over those names. At 862 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty five pounds. It is absolutely ridiculous 863 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 4: how strong that division has become over the years. There's 864 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 4: so many skillful guys, so many different ways that division 865 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 4: can go, and it's further complicated by the fact that 866 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 4: Shudo is the champion one hundred and twenty five pounds 867 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 4: as well. So I don't know, man, is there any 868 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 4: word on Tuhudo and is he training yet? 869 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 5: What's going on? 870 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 3: Well, thankfully we will have a new flyweight champion this 871 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 3: weekend and that will no longer be a part of 872 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 3: the narrative. Yeah, no, oh, I think he's gonna fight 873 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 3: in May. I think Henry Judo's gonna fight in May. 874 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: He is training. Uh, pretty invasive shoulder surgery though, so 875 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 3: it's gonna be a tough first fight back after that procedure. 876 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 3: But uh, we'll see how it goes. We got to 877 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 3: spin this thing forward because uh, we do have a 878 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 3: UFC Live event on ESPN Plus this weekend in Norfolk, Virginia. 879 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 3: Before we get to the picks, of course, it is 880 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 3: the pronunciation of the week. TJ just really stole the 881 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 3: show a week ago. We'll see how he does here today. 882 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 3: They did call her Loma by the way on the broadcast. 883 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 3: If you noticed, I didn't hear a lot of Luke 884 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 3: boon me or whatever dolphin is in Thai. So TJ's 885 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 3: two to one on the year. This fighter today will 886 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 3: compete in the featured bout at light heavyweight this weekend 887 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 3: against Ewan kute Laba. TJ. DeSantis. Sorry about the LA 888 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 3: traffic this morning. 889 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 5: Oh it's horrible. Good morning, I'm here. We made it. 890 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So what are we talking about today? 891 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 5: Kid? 892 00:40:54,680 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 3: Magamed ank A Live? Oh you want to give me 893 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 3: that surname again? Before the file? Did you say Ankle 894 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 3: live Anka Live? Okay, let's hear uh, let's hear how 895 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 3: he says it, Na. 896 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 5: What do you mean, no, ank a live unc Eliah. 897 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 5: That's not what he said. I don't hear him say that. 898 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's ah and I hear the four syllables there, 899 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 3: t J uh I love. My favorite part of this 900 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 3: podcast is when Ken flow, what's the judge that, Randy Scott, 901 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 3: what's it? When you're like, that's a no for me, dog? 902 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 5: I don't, yeah, exactly, that's gonna be a no for 903 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 5: me dog. All right. 904 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 3: So my twin brother listens to every episode now because 905 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 3: he's on this running kick and he thinks that we're 906 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 3: not generous enough with TJ. But that's a no for me. 907 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's it's Alia mean. 908 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 5: Let's hear it again. You tell me where he says. 909 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 3: Anklath i'th. 910 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 5: Ankle live. 911 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 3: So part of the reason we do this segment is 912 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 3: to shine light on how difficult a process this is 913 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 3: to try to get these right. 914 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 5: You know. 915 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 3: TJ DeSantis is a credentialed mixed martial arts play by 916 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 3: play guy. We all sit here and hear the file 917 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 3: and obviously hear things differently, but uh, TJ, Unfortunately, all 918 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 3: you need is one of us to give you the win. 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But Team Florian, 963 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 3: despite going two and three on the fights, you predicted 964 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 3: almost exactly how these things were going to turn out. 965 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 3: You had Jimmy Krup by submission as an underdog. You 966 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 3: had Dan Hooker by decision, so extra two points there 967 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 3: for the round of the method on Hooker. You win 968 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 3: the week six to three, shave the lead down to 969 00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 3: two twenty two twenty as we hit UFC NORF Virginia 970 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 3: and with us who makes picks today? He is the 971 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 3: winner of the inaugural John Annex MMA Charity Challenge, which 972 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 3: took place back in November. Nick Contreras is on the line. Nick, 973 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,919 Speaker 3: good to have you with us. Manny there, Yes, I am. 974 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 9: Thank guys for having me. I appreciate it. 975 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for bringing that beautiful Southern drawl to 976 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 3: the program. So if you didn't play our charity challenge, 977 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 3: Nick beat a field of like six hundred people picking fights, 978 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 3: allocating chips. So absolutely crush this format. And we hosted 979 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 3: him at UFC two forty seven earlier this month in Houston, 980 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 3: and now he goes head to head with the UFC legend, 981 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 3: Kenny Florian. Nick, when I met you in Houston, you were, 982 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 3: I mean cold as ice in the best of ways, right, 983 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 3: calm cool, collected any nerves whatsoever. Knowing that you're going 984 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 3: head to head with the UFC legend Kenny Florian today 985 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 3: level with. 986 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 9: Me cools a cucumber. You know, Yeah, I feel pretty confident. 987 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 9: I've been a USP fan for a long time, but 988 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 9: I know Kim Plows definitely probably has one up on me. 989 00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 9: But I'm ready to go. 990 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 2: Don't pronounce anything, Okay, Hey, then. 991 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 5: Florian podcast jitters, it's a real thing. 992 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 3: It is a real thing, asked Joe Silva. Absolutely, it 993 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 3: is interesting though, and I think Nick, like a lot 994 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 3: of our listeners who in the past got a chance 995 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 3: to come on and make picks against Kenny, they are 996 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 3: very confident in their ability to watch mixed martial arts 997 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 3: and analyze mixed martial arts and have been fans forever. 998 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 3: So they want the opportunity to go head to head 999 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 3: with Kenny flori in and uh, that floor is nixt today, 1000 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 3: So let us get to it. First fight, light heavyweight 1001 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 3: Mago met Ankliab minus two sixty five against Ewan kutte Laba, 1002 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 3: who is plus two twenty five. So ank Eliab, however, 1003 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 3: you pronounce it his name. Good Fighters won three in 1004 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 3: a row since being submitted by Paul Craig and his 1005 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 3: UFC debut. He's twenty seven born in Daugastan, so has 1006 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 3: that combat sambo greco Roman background that you'd expect, but 1007 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 3: also a lot of power here. Nick, what do you 1008 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 3: think about aunk Elijah as the favorite against the Moldovan 1009 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 3: Ewan kute Laba. 1010 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 9: I definitely think that it's a He's a warranted favorite. 1011 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 9: I think I'm gonna go with e So. I think 1012 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 9: he had a really good performance against Khalil Rowntree. The 1013 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 9: takedowns were there, even the like sweep that he that 1014 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 9: he got on round Tree was really impressive. Definitely a 1015 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 9: lot of power from Maga Metev. But I think I'm 1016 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 9: gonna go with Ewan Via in round three. 1017 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 3: All right, he wont Laba by tk oh plus two 1018 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 3: twenty five tickle there ken flow, so little underwhelming for 1019 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 3: me on the Hulk overall right, four and three in 1020 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 3: the UFC, but he has won three of his last four, 1021 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 3: starting to show show some signs that maybe he's turned 1022 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 3: the corner. And again the only loss in that stretch 1023 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 3: to Glover to share. I like watching him fight. I 1024 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 3: like the violent style. I haven't seen much Kenny in 1025 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 3: terms of kote Laba's evolution your thoughts on him in 1026 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 3: this matchup against Anklith, I agree. 1027 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 4: With you along a lot of those things. But I 1028 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 4: can see why Nick is going with Kutlaba. He does 1029 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 4: have a heck of a lot of power. I I 1030 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 4: just don't think he matches up that well as far 1031 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 4: as you know the grappling goes. I think Uncle I 1032 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 4: have essentially is the gonna be the better grappler here. 1033 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if he mixes it up with 1034 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 4: some takedowns. I think both guys are about even in 1035 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 4: regards to the power. I like Uncle Iave here to 1036 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 4: take the win. 1037 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 3: All right, comane event widespread here, but we pick all 1038 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 3: comane events. Women's featherweight division Felicia Spencer minus seven seventy 1039 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 3: again Zada Fairn plus three thirty five will need the 1040 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 3: round of the method here. So Nick Spencer really impressed 1041 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 3: a lot of people in defeat to Chris Cyborg last July. 1042 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,280 Speaker 3: Pretty extended layoffs since and Zara Fairn hope I'm pronouncing 1043 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 3: that right. Six and three overall. Submitted by Megan Anderson 1044 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 3: and her UFC debut last October in Melbourne. Any shot 1045 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 3: for the French Woman fan here, Nick CONCHERA, So you 1046 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 3: think this is gonna be all Felicia Spencer. 1047 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, to be honest with I think Felicia Spicher is 1048 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 9: really gonna take this one. Like you mentioned, she showed 1049 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 9: just a tremendous amount of heart and grit against Chris 1050 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 9: Cyborg and even showcase for grappling ability a little bit. 1051 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 9: And she's one rear naked choke against me and Anderson 1052 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 9: as well. And now you can't really take mma math 1053 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 9: into the equation here, but I think in this case, 1054 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 9: I think she takes it via submission round two. 1055 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 3: All right, Felicia Spencer by submission in round two. Ken 1056 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 3: Flow Zara Fern obviously has that UFC debut out of 1057 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 3: the way. She's long pretty good stand up skills, but 1058 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 3: Vegas says she's overmatched. Here your thoughts on the comain, Yeah, listen, 1059 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,959 Speaker 3: I see Spencer hitting a takedown up against the cage. 1060 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 3: I see her pressuring her, getting a takedown up against 1061 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,240 Speaker 3: the cage, getting her on the matt early, and winning 1062 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,439 Speaker 3: this fight by submission in round one. All right, round 1063 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 3: one Felicia Spencer by submission to pick to click for 1064 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 3: Ken Flow, which brings us to the main event for 1065 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 3: the UFC's vacant flywaight title. Unfortunately, not more shine on 1066 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 3: this fight because we have UFC two forty eight coming 1067 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 3: up next week. This Felder Hooker main event really resonated 1068 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 3: with fight fans, but this is for a vacant UFC 1069 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 3: flyweight title. Joseph Benavidez slightly favored minus one thirty Davison 1070 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 3: figureto the underdog here at even we've seen some money 1071 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 3: come in on the Brazilian, so even this morning, I'm 1072 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 3: seeing minus one twenty five minus one oh five. Benavitez 1073 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 3: was in the minus one fifty five range a few 1074 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 3: days ago, So money coming in on the Brazilian who 1075 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 3: is seventeen and one overall. I had that loss to 1076 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 3: Juicya for Mega in March, and I can't get that 1077 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 3: performance and that fight out of my head. I know, 1078 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 3: MMA math doesn't always add up, but three months later, 1079 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 3: Benavitez just smashed for Mega and again for me, I 1080 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 3: don't know. I just that was not an encouraging sign 1081 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 3: or a good visual for me, but very close fight. 1082 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 3: Nick on paper a couple finishers here thirty one combined 1083 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,320 Speaker 3: stoppage wins between Benavetez and Figuretta. Nick, who do you 1084 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 3: think leaves Norfolk, Virginia the new UFC flyweight king? 1085 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 9: So I think it's gonna Benavitez. I think this might 1086 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 9: be one of his last chances to grab that flyweight belt, 1087 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 9: just due to the uncertainty of that division, and he's 1088 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 9: had a couple of chances before to get that flyweight belt. 1089 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,240 Speaker 9: But I think his last few performances were really impressive 1090 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 9: and I'm gonna go with benavite As. I think he's 1091 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 9: gonna pull it out bymous decision. 1092 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:08,399 Speaker 3: Our unanimous decision for Joseph Benavitez the favorite. Kenny Joe 1093 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,800 Speaker 3: B has won nine of ten since that last UFC 1094 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 3: title fight against Demetrius Johnson, which was in twenty thirteen. 1095 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 3: He is beyond worthy of this third championship opportunity. It 1096 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 3: could be a ten fight winning streak. The close fight 1097 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,800 Speaker 3: against Sergio pattis another close one in there against a hudo, 1098 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,720 Speaker 3: but I think he deserves the distinction as the favorite, 1099 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 3: albeit slightly. Your thoughts on on Figuretto and Benavitez and 1100 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 3: what we might see play out Saturday. 1101 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 4: Night without a doubt, and I would love to see 1102 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,320 Speaker 4: Benavetez finally get that championship belt around his waist, the 1103 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 4: guy who's been doing it forever. 1104 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,439 Speaker 5: Just love the guy. So I am obviously a little 1105 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 5: bit biased here. 1106 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 4: I do think Figdedo is a very tough matchup form, 1107 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 4: especially in tight where Benavidez has been caught trading in 1108 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 4: the pocket at times. And I think Joe needs to 1109 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 4: be very careful as he enters. He needs to faint 1110 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,399 Speaker 4: his way in, he needs to be all the way 1111 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 4: in or all the way out. And I do think 1112 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 4: he could really take advantage of the Brazilian fighter if 1113 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 4: he's able to take him down to the matt repeatedly. 1114 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 4: I would not be surprised if Benavite was able to 1115 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 4: get a TKO or a submission down there. 1116 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Benavidez. Buy TKO round three. 1117 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 3: Ben Avidez, TKO round three. All right, Nick Contrere's good stuff, buddy, 1118 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,399 Speaker 3: Appreciate the effort and uh certainly your contributions later last 1119 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 3: year in the charity challenge. Thank you for coming on 1120 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 3: today and as we always say, you beat kemflo head 1121 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 3: to head. You're back in the Q buddy, so thanks 1122 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 3: for the time. We'll talk to you soon. 1123 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 5: Thanks Nick, Thank you guys. 1124 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 9: I appreciate it all. 1125 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 3: Right, So we'll see how it plays out. Benavidez versus 1126 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 3: Figuretto that is your title fight coming up Saturday night. 1127 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 3: You can see that card wall to wall on ESPN Plus. 1128 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 3: And with that, we gotta get on out of here. 1129 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 3: I gotta like catch up on sleep after these boxer 1130 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,280 Speaker 3: pay per views. 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