Speaker 1: Da Around the NFL Podcast would win a pickup game
Speaker 1: against Daniel Jeremiah. Welcome back to another edition of the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and
Speaker 1: I am joined by a room film with heroes Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up boys, Hey Dan,
Speaker 1: it's actually speaking of DJ. He was up here in
Speaker 1: the studio when we got upstairs. Of course, he was
Speaker 1: a guest on Friday show, and I think he might
Speaker 1: have taken my advice. I think he might have started
Speaker 1: a podcast here. Sounded like it. So if that's the case,
Speaker 1: everybody look into it. If Dan has a show, he's
Speaker 1: leveraging our appearance into his own endeavor. Best of luck
Speaker 1: to Daniels Eremiah. I missed this showdown between DJ and
Speaker 1: the rest of you, so some good feedback. People enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't It was kind of uh, a one on
Speaker 1: one battle with Greg laughing like a jackal every time
Speaker 1: DJ put down my appearance. I gotta check this out.
Speaker 1: Kind of a lot of reveal mcnifico a little bit,
Speaker 1: and and I shared with Greg. I said, there's a
Speaker 1: thing where I you know, where I come from, the
Speaker 1: coldtown it's called home team that he doesn't want You
Speaker 1: didn't want me laughing at DJs. It was all it
Speaker 1: was about the type of laughing that you were doing,
Speaker 1: and it was like, remember what team we're on. We're
Speaker 1: all on the same team here. You can't just jump
Speaker 1: around and defect. To be fair to Greg, I think
Speaker 1: I was probably laughing just as hard. Trust me, Trust me,
Speaker 1: I could pick up things. Sounds it's good natured from
Speaker 1: West Colleen, A little on the fence. Greg very clear
Speaker 1: as a mercenary in this. I mean, his whole bit
Speaker 1: was kind of a you know, fantastic, you know, absurd bit.
Speaker 1: So I didn't even know laughing hard at something so
Speaker 1: absurd there would be no offense to be taken from that.
Speaker 1: It was like absurd, Like Greg is always picking up
Speaker 1: the pieces socially after, you know, completely destroying someone without
Speaker 1: trying to. That's also why I'm not like mad at
Speaker 1: Greg was upset that I was mad after the show
Speaker 1: and even sent like a text later on like hey,
Speaker 1: that was a fun show, all kidding aside, just to
Speaker 1: see if I was mad at him. But I know
Speaker 1: that I know that Greg. You know, sometimes in these
Speaker 1: social situations he can get on people's radar. And I've
Speaker 1: learned that. And I love Greg matter because I don't
Speaker 1: you know, I don't pussy foot around as much as
Speaker 1: you guys. That must be in the way to diagnoseig um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was back in my cold town. We
Speaker 1: had a little thing called busting Balls. You know, don't
Speaker 1: get me started in your cold town with gorgeous views
Speaker 1: of the Atlantic, you know, Yeah, that's western Massachusetts for you.
Speaker 1: All right, cow farms. All kidding aside, great show today
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Speaker 1: Now today's show a great one, and Mark, reach out
Speaker 1: to your very very close friend, Mr F and maybe
Speaker 1: we can broker some type of what is the What
Speaker 1: is your issue with the fact that I'm friends with
Speaker 1: Mr F? Not an issue, It's just an observation that
Speaker 1: you've become more than passing like email buddies. It's a
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Speaker 1: I'd like to see your research on this, but I'd
Speaker 1: say that I consider him a genuine friend. Yeah Facebook friends,
Speaker 1: we you know, a genuine wish him. Well, So that's
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm hitting at. And now you're painting it
Speaker 1: like any friendship between two people where there's any level
Speaker 1: of depth to it, there's something obviously wrong and involved.
Speaker 1: It must just be we. I must be using him
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Speaker 1: your own head right now, that is what it feels
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Speaker 1: Today's show will feature a breakdown of hard Knocks. How
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Speaker 1: HBO and NFL films. Uh, they have I guess re
Speaker 1: up their contract or commitment with each other. So not
Speaker 1: that it was something that was hanging in the balance
Speaker 1: or hanging in the air. We all expected another season
Speaker 1: to arrive this summer, but we will be getting and
Speaker 1: then that gives this opportunity to jump off and talk
Speaker 1: about some teams we'd like to see. Uh in I
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Speaker 1: start though with the Dallas Cowboys and the Tony Romo
Speaker 1: Romo saga um and what appears to be the next
Speaker 1: step in Romo disconnecting with the Cowboys permanently. Cowboys owner
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones has reached out to all thirty two NFL
Speaker 1: teams letting them know that uh quote, they are permitted
Speaker 1: to contact Tony Romo or his agent to schedule a workout,
Speaker 1: visit or physical This according to NFL Networks Mike Garafolo.
Speaker 1: Uh Garfolo noted Monday that talks are to be limited
Speaker 1: to conversations concerning Romo's two thousand, seventeen to nineteen NFL
Speaker 1: player contract. I'm sure that would be honored. Chris WESTLINGH,
Speaker 1: can you tell me, uh in your what does this
Speaker 1: mean to you? Are we getting closer to finally Romo
Speaker 1: being at a Dallas or is this just going to
Speaker 1: continue to drag on? I like the way you phrase that,
Speaker 1: what does it mean to me? Because to everyone else
Speaker 1: it means last ditch attempt at a trade before workouts start.
Speaker 1: To me, not usually part of the tinfoil hat brigade here,
Speaker 1: but Jerry Jones has made comments in the past that
Speaker 1: he likes he likes soap opers to extend throughout an
Speaker 1: offseason because the attention it gives the NFL. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not a coincidence this is this news is released
Speaker 1: on opening day for baseball. He's dragging He is dragging
Speaker 1: out this Tony Romo saga for all of March because
Speaker 1: it's good for the NFL to to make news during
Speaker 1: baseball's time of year, and Jerry is most people know this,
Speaker 1: but Jones is probably the most influential owner in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So West his theory here that he's he's working to
Speaker 1: juice the NFL. Makes sense because he's basically one step
Speaker 1: below the commissioner. He there's some showmanship to Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1: He appreciates, uh, you know, dragging things out, getting more
Speaker 1: interest in it, you know. So why he moved the
Speaker 1: Raiders to Vegas, he moved the Rams to Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: he just I mean he was. He was instrumental in
Speaker 1: getting the other owners to agree that Vegas would be
Speaker 1: good for the NFL. I I really don't think he
Speaker 1: wants anything to do with this whole thing about a
Speaker 1: good guy packed with Romo that you let him off
Speaker 1: your roster and he floats downstate to Houston. I really
Speaker 1: don't think Jerry Jones wants Tony Romo to go to
Speaker 1: a super Bowl level defense in Houston and get them
Speaker 1: deep into the playoffs. It's taking the attention in a
Speaker 1: state you dominate to a completely different place, right, I agree.
Speaker 1: And so it's just exhausting every possible avenue to find
Speaker 1: a different outcome than him landing on the Texans. I
Speaker 1: don't really see why any team that would be interested
Speaker 1: in Romo would change their minds in any way because
Speaker 1: they could schedule a workout with them, Like no one
Speaker 1: was really looking to trade him before, why would they
Speaker 1: be now? And what's the difference? One question about And
Speaker 1: now we're hearing that the Broncos aren't really in and
Speaker 1: it's almost like Texans or bust. I have a real
Speaker 1: issue with that in the sense that why does if
Speaker 1: Elway likes Baxton Lynch and Trevor Simeon, why does that
Speaker 1: mean that precludes the Broncos from getting Tony Romo, who
Speaker 1: is at best, let's face it, a two year patch
Speaker 1: and maybe far less than that. Why can't they continue
Speaker 1: to develop those two guys if you like them, and
Speaker 1: also get Tony Romo and see how it works out.
Speaker 1: I think they could if the price was right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think always shown the past couple of years that
Speaker 1: he wants a core her back at his price. He
Speaker 1: did it with Kaepernick. Kaepernick refused to pay cut. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't pay what the Texans were paying for us while
Speaker 1: er either. And it makes sense for him to put
Speaker 1: it out there that they're not really that interested because
Speaker 1: he's not in a trade and he kind of sees
Speaker 1: a situation where it sure looks like Houston cleared the
Speaker 1: decks for Romo, and that Romo wants to play for Houston,
Speaker 1: so he's not gonna let it out there. Now a
Speaker 1: situation happened where suddenly Romo was sitting out there and
Speaker 1: maybe his price went down. I found this interesting, though,
Speaker 1: the most important part of this news to me is
Speaker 1: that I think Tony Romo is planning to play football,
Speaker 1: because Jerry Jones said he met with Romo last week
Speaker 1: and he was going to meet with him soon after
Speaker 1: the owners meeting. Then this news comes out. I I
Speaker 1: think it's safe to assume that Tony Romo and his
Speaker 1: representatives are We're on board with whatever this news is.
Speaker 1: And to me that that sounds like a guy who's
Speaker 1: trying to take the steps to play football, not to
Speaker 1: not to announce moving forward. Adrian Peterson still out there.
Speaker 1: The only team he's connected to right now is the
Speaker 1: San Diego Graybeards, but he did meet with the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots on Monday. Rap Sheet reported uh it was
Speaker 1: the veteran running back second free agent visit of the offseason,
Speaker 1: following a meeting with the Seattle Seahawks last month. He
Speaker 1: left UH the Patriot Way without a deal. According to
Speaker 1: Peter Schreeger of good Morning football. But that doesn't mean, uh, Mark,
Speaker 1: that a deal won't get done with the Pats. Uh
Speaker 1: do you think that would be a good fit. Let's
Speaker 1: start there, Patriots Adrian Peterson. I think it's one of
Speaker 1: the few teams that seem like it would be a fit.
Speaker 1: And I mean West has been talking about that link
Speaker 1: for for months and it makes some sense. I I
Speaker 1: think a visit like this didn't need to end in
Speaker 1: assigning to be the only way that you get maybe
Speaker 1: you know you're they're doing their homework. The Patriots do
Speaker 1: care about the person too, And if you look back,
Speaker 1: Tom Kerr and your boy Greg wrote an article where
Speaker 1: he included some of the comments that Jonathan Craft made
Speaker 1: about Adrian Peterson when the old child abuse thing went down,
Speaker 1: whatever work we want to call that, and he called
Speaker 1: it unacceptable and abhorrance. So that's two years ago, and
Speaker 1: a lot of people have come around to Adrian Peterson's
Speaker 1: version of all that to some degree, others have not.
Speaker 1: I think that is a factor, even though it's not
Speaker 1: as much of a hot button issue as it would
Speaker 1: have been right after it happened. But they they you're
Speaker 1: signing up for the person. They don't want Joe Mixon,
Speaker 1: for instance, They're not interested in him, so they do.
Speaker 1: It's not just take anyone no matter what they represent
Speaker 1: off the field. Tom Current, you mentioned that article. I
Speaker 1: mean his theory is they're just doing a solid to
Speaker 1: Peterson's agent. That's it. Ben Dogger is coming off bend aggress.
Speaker 1: His agent used to be one of, if not the
Speaker 1: most powerful agents, uh in the entire NFL. He's coming
Speaker 1: off a suspension. Meanwhile, his biggest client can't get a job. Uh,
Speaker 1: and you know they they're helping him out and they're
Speaker 1: getting some information, you know. Jeff Jeff Howard Boston Harold
Speaker 1: also reported they weren't comfortable enough to you know, make
Speaker 1: They didn't make any offer during this trip. So I
Speaker 1: think that speaks a lot that that's a that's a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. I can buy that. There's a part B
Speaker 1: to that theory too, that they're also sending a message
Speaker 1: to the Garrett Blunt. Lower your you're asking price and
Speaker 1: we'll bring in Peterson. Moving on, Hey, remember West, Remember
Speaker 1: Mark Davis Bryant, I do that, dude. Well, he's in
Speaker 1: the news, appearing on Thursday's edition of Up to the
Speaker 1: Minute Live program. We will be on Monday, a little
Speaker 1: late in the game for you to listen to watch that,
Speaker 1: but hopefully later in the week as well. We we
Speaker 1: are I think it's what it's two to three every day.
Speaker 1: You know, you can always find these clips on NFL
Speaker 1: do Anyway. Rap Sheet was on that program and said
Speaker 1: that the suspended Steelers wide receiver believes he will soon
Speaker 1: be returning to Pittsburgh. Here's what Rapport had to say
Speaker 1: or report. When you speak to people close to him,
Speaker 1: they are confident that in the near future he will
Speaker 1: get word that he has been reinstated by reinstated to
Speaker 1: the NFL. Chris, wasn't you wrote this piece up on
Speaker 1: around the NFL? Remind people, Uh, I don't know why
Speaker 1: I'm talking like this. Slow down a little bit, Chris.
Speaker 1: Can you remind people why mart Tavis Bryant uh is
Speaker 1: such a special player. He's nicknamed the Alien because there's
Speaker 1: no one else like him in the NFL. He's got
Speaker 1: some Raindey Moss qualities to him as a six ft
Speaker 1: four guy who runs you know probably right around a
Speaker 1: four four forty can leap out of the building and
Speaker 1: make spectacular catches like he did with that one that
Speaker 1: was through his legs. Um, everything's changed in the last month.
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler tweeted out this quote from Kevin Quilbert on
Speaker 1: March first, Mark right here, marcoun Mark Tavis was a
Speaker 1: great asset, asset to us when he was available. That
Speaker 1: was just four weeks ago. And now add Kinkabala reports
Speaker 1: that the Steelers expect him for the start of offseason workouts. Well,
Speaker 1: the phrasing was legitimate April, so they expect in the
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks for Roger Goodell to reinstate Martavis.
Speaker 1: Bryant quite a weapon. I mean, we talked about the
Speaker 1: a f C has been top heavy in terms of
Speaker 1: having one or two teams you can take seriously for me,
Speaker 1: at least Steelers are always one of those teams. And
Speaker 1: when you add that element back into an offense that
Speaker 1: also has Antonio Brown and Levy on Bell and big Ben,
Speaker 1: big Ben actually returns next he's going to say, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: big Ben, we believe you might retire. Maybe Ladarius Green
Speaker 1: whose battle concussion is but he plans on plane and
Speaker 1: the few games he played last year he was a
Speaker 1: great fit for that well, and they couldn't replace Bryant.
Speaker 1: You know, you wouldn't have thought losing your number two receiver,
Speaker 1: I'll be you know, maybe the best number two receiver
Speaker 1: in the league would be that devastating. But that spot
Speaker 1: ended up being uh, a gaping hole of drops and
Speaker 1: injuries and just out of sync plays by Sammy Coates
Speaker 1: and Mark Sweeten and they never really found him, but
Speaker 1: they did find a slot receiver, Eli Rogers, so suddenly
Speaker 1: put Brian back there, and that's the best looking offense
Speaker 1: in in the league. Along with the Patriots moving on,
Speaker 1: the Vikings have some more. Teddy Bridgewater Insurance Minnesota agreed
Speaker 1: to terms with former Rams quarterback case Keenum a one year,
Speaker 1: two million dollar deal. Uh. Mike Garifolo reported, Uh, Bradford,
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford is going to be the starter. He's locked
Speaker 1: in there. Uh. He has another year left on his deal,
Speaker 1: I believe. But Teddy Bridgewater, who suffered that devastating freak
Speaker 1: knee injury last summer, Uh, it is no guarantee that
Speaker 1: he'll be back next year or back at all. So
Speaker 1: we'll see he's he's I think he posted a video
Speaker 1: with some progress on social media last week, but it
Speaker 1: was a devastating injury for Bridgewater. Greg now case Keena
Speaker 1: enters as the backup, what are your thoughts just that
Speaker 1: they're not counting on Bridgewater and how could they? But this,
Speaker 1: this I think drives the point home that they wanted it.
Speaker 1: Not only did they want obviously you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, but they wanted someone with experience. I mean,
Speaker 1: they wanted what they would consider a real backup quarterback
Speaker 1: because they have no idea Teddy Bridgewater is gonna play,
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer said last week when asked about Bridgewater ever
Speaker 1: playing again. He said, I honestly have no idea. You
Speaker 1: gotta keep planning. You gotta keep planning. Then that's I mean,
Speaker 1: did they Here's my question, Like, let's say you go
Speaker 1: into I guess you could eye r him, But do
Speaker 1: you ever just have to cut bait with him? If
Speaker 1: the if the report is just that negative by the
Speaker 1: end of the summer, I think it's so early. I know,
Speaker 1: I don't see why, because why can't you just not
Speaker 1: right now? I'm saying, if you, if you can conclusion
Speaker 1: you cannot play again. Yeah, I mean, if if that,
Speaker 1: if you felt strongly enough, he's not coming back to football.
Speaker 1: But I don't see why you wouldn't wait a whole
Speaker 1: another year just to see from what we heard about
Speaker 1: the severity of the injury. It's typically in these situations,
Speaker 1: it's not that's you know, there's specifics to every injury.
Speaker 1: I don't want to group them all one category. But
Speaker 1: when you have what's deemed a devastating kne injury, knee injury,
Speaker 1: it feels like fifty fifty with these guys. You can
Speaker 1: be Navarro Bowman where you get back, be Mark Marcus
Speaker 1: Lattimore where you don't, And you just never know until
Speaker 1: the process plays out and it's still ongoing. Moving on, Hey,
Speaker 1: Zach Brown, another gray Beard team member and a reminder,
Speaker 1: once a gray Beard, always a great beer. So people
Speaker 1: that tweet at me when these guys start coming off
Speaker 1: the market, hey, you gotta replace z and so, No,
Speaker 1: it's a fake team, dummy. He's on the team. That's it.
Speaker 1: Did you ever make even a start? Dad? He's dad.
Speaker 1: He's not gone back and editing now ten times over.
Speaker 1: The what's that thing goes out the door? It's out
Speaker 1: the door anyway. The Redskins agreed to terms with inside
Speaker 1: linebacker Zach Brown, spent last year with the Bills, just
Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, coming off a season where he
Speaker 1: established career highs and tackles and forced fumbles. Uh and West, Uh,
Speaker 1: this is a player that at this stage of the game,
Speaker 1: I like this pick up For the Bills, I love it.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, the Redskins, I love it. He was ranked
Speaker 1: on our top one O one free agents. Only Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson and Jonathan Hankins remain from the top twenties, so
Speaker 1: this was a good signing. He was among the tackle
Speaker 1: leaders all year last year, and if you go back
Speaker 1: and watch the I believe it was the Week four
Speaker 1: game against the Patriots. He had like eight teen tackles.
Speaker 1: It was one of the best games by an inside
Speaker 1: linebacker all year. West is going to be telling his
Speaker 1: grandchildren about this game. I mean, you love this game.
Speaker 1: I actually remember when you were watch I think you
Speaker 1: were watching it at work on game pass and you
Speaker 1: were just like, I've never seen a linebacker play like
Speaker 1: this for this game. That was a shutout wind If
Speaker 1: people remember, is that West. That's that's my impression of
Speaker 1: damax impression. Nobody is more abused in the people trying
Speaker 1: to speak like someone in West who was just reduced
Speaker 1: to some sort of mindless person with literally no education. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take that and counter you with Damna sex impression
Speaker 1: of me, which maybe you haven't heard, don't heard out
Speaker 1: too much, but it's it's a lot of well, I
Speaker 1: don't really know about that checks out. West is as
Speaker 1: time goes on, anybody that does a West impression, it
Speaker 1: gets more and more country. Eventually just gonna be like
Speaker 1: a deliverance, like the kid with a messed up phase
Speaker 1: playing West. That's true. Redskins. You know, we killed the
Speaker 1: Redskins for having a bad offseason and they have. It
Speaker 1: is worth noting, you know, Brown is a nice pick
Speaker 1: up at a position in need and their biggest losses
Speaker 1: everyone you know really talked about we're wide receiver and
Speaker 1: you look at their wide receivers pretty good Jamison Crowder,
Speaker 1: Josh Dotson if if he can get healthy, and Jordan
Speaker 1: Reed that's a great for you know, receiving option groups.
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe they're not in such moving on. Nicest
Speaker 1: thing Gregg's ever said about the reds Maybe in such
Speaker 1: bands shape. We are in the branch, sorry, huge olive branch,
Speaker 1: very classic, but you know we now we have to
Speaker 1: make up. You know who you and I yeah, I
Speaker 1: told you. I because I know you and you're in
Speaker 1: the trust tree. That's more than me laughing. I can
Speaker 1: take it. No, I can take it because you're in
Speaker 1: the trust tree, and I could step back and be like,
Speaker 1: not a lot of people in that tree. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: If you're not in the tree and you do something
Speaker 1: to upset the old suser and I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: is like a positive a trait of mind, then you're
Speaker 1: in trouble. Like I'll probably you'll never get off the list.
Speaker 1: But if you're in the tree, you get a significant
Speaker 1: amount of rope before you're hanging from it. That way.
Speaker 1: Next metaphors, you're yeah, you're like, I mean, you're like
Speaker 1: Mr Miyagi Prune in the bonds Eye tree. Your tree
Speaker 1: is pretty thin these days. Not a lot of new
Speaker 1: members coming into the treehouse. Uh. Gronk talk Spring of Gronk.
Speaker 1: It is, you know when in the early days, and
Speaker 1: I feel like we're in a post Gronk world in
Speaker 1: terms of documenting is off the field stuff. In his
Speaker 1: early years, it was legitimate fun and you'd read profiles
Speaker 1: where he would show up at Kagger's and you know,
Speaker 1: be spotted on a dance floor, like doing backflips with
Speaker 1: a brother, or just being in a wrestling match in
Speaker 1: the middle of the street. But now he's a little
Speaker 1: more streamlined, and all these things are they seem to
Speaker 1: be an extension of the Gronk brand. Perfect example, showed
Speaker 1: up ringside WrestleMania thirty three on Sunday, uh and uh
Speaker 1: he's good buddies with a pro wrestler named Mojo Rawley. Uh.
Speaker 1: And they worked him into the script of the match.
Speaker 1: I don't want to break cafe here, but they worked
Speaker 1: They worked him into the script and ended up dropping
Speaker 1: a shoulder um kind of like a running shoulder slam
Speaker 1: type move onto another wrestler named Gender Mahal. And it
Speaker 1: all started when Mahal threw a beer on Gronk. The
Speaker 1: man's name is Ginger. Yeah, j I N D E R.
Speaker 1: I think he's a wrestler of Iranian descent. Be careful, Dan,
Speaker 1: I mean what you know what a surprise for Gronk
Speaker 1: thinks he's just showing up to enjoy a nice sporting event.
Speaker 1: It gets caught in the middle. It's it's unbelievable. I
Speaker 1: remember that move when hill Billy Jim pulled it. Sure
Speaker 1: hill Billy Jim had a couple of brothers too, back
Speaker 1: when I don't remember. This gender, by the way, is
Speaker 1: from Calgary, Canada, but his nationality is Indian, so a
Speaker 1: little far off there. You're trying, though, I see an
Speaker 1: effort on your party. The effort is absolutely there, and
Speaker 1: that's important. That's important anyway, So Gronk and then uh
Speaker 1: he showed up the next day. So that was Sunday
Speaker 1: in Orlando. Monday in Boston. He showed up at opening
Speaker 1: day for the Red Sox where Tom Brady, who would
Speaker 1: was presented his missing Super Bowl jerseys earlier in the
Speaker 1: day by Robert Kraft, which was documented by the team,
Speaker 1: of course, with both still in motion photographers. Brady held
Speaker 1: up the jerseys on the field at Fenway Park, and
Speaker 1: then Gronk swiped the jersey away from Brady and ran away.
Speaker 1: And then Tom Brady this is whereth checking out. It's
Speaker 1: kind of funny. Tom Brady chases runs after Gronk and
Speaker 1: tackles him behind second base and retrieves the jersey once more.
Speaker 1: Great fun, a little calculated, maybe not as natural as
Speaker 1: the old summer of Gronk antics, but I'll sign off
Speaker 1: on this one he has great potential about ten years
Speaker 1: from now, I think, as he's nearing forty to be
Speaker 1: one of the most ponderous public figures of our lifetime,
Speaker 1: not now, not now. I get it. I like Gronk,
Speaker 1: but I mean, can you imagine this guy's midlife priss
Speaker 1: when it comes around and what sort of social media
Speaker 1: platforms we have in our world, then it's gonna be rugged.
Speaker 1: On a positive note, he's not moving like a guy
Speaker 1: that people were afraid might never play at a high
Speaker 1: level again because of becks stead to be ready for
Speaker 1: the pretty well. There was a lot of discussion on
Speaker 1: Twitter at the time during the WrestleMania but like what
Speaker 1: is Bill Like? They're shocked, like how good do you
Speaker 1: have to be to be able to get clear and
Speaker 1: to do WrestleMania? You know, no other page you would
Speaker 1: be hot. And one response was like he probably didn't
Speaker 1: tell them at all. He's just out like he's done
Speaker 1: other things like the I think ESPN magazine cover when
Speaker 1: he was naked or something like he's like he's not talented.
Speaker 1: He minute he jumped, he climbs into the ring. You
Speaker 1: could you could watch a video on the end around
Speaker 1: where I wrote about it. He climbs into the ring
Speaker 1: and does a running sprint and levels this guy with
Speaker 1: his shoulder and Ginger Mahal, who's Canadian of Indian descent,
Speaker 1: is six ft five and two thirty pounds of pure muscle,
Speaker 1: so it was probably wrestling height and weight or real
Speaker 1: heightened way. If you look at the video, he's bigger
Speaker 1: than Gronk, so it seems pretty legit. And uh, that's
Speaker 1: like running into a wall essentially like four months removed
Speaker 1: from back surgery. That's all I'm gonna say, Dan, What
Speaker 1: would have been a bigger fantasy for you in the
Speaker 1: off season to have Tom Brady tackle Gronk and both
Speaker 1: of their bodies just physically crumble and they're done crossed
Speaker 1: my mind because it's surprising. Yeah, it was surprising to
Speaker 1: me that Brady actually, as part of the bid at Fenway,
Speaker 1: tackled Grunt and they're they're hugging each other. There's actually
Speaker 1: the ap shot photos and at one point, like Brady's
Speaker 1: hand is uncomfortably uh close to Grons We're getting back
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Speaker 1: he was going with that, You thought that that's what
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Speaker 1: going on up there, coded language for all sorts of things,
Speaker 1: and that come into a certain certain wheels. Let me
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Speaker 1: little Hard Knocks. Let's do it. Oh, there it is?
Speaker 1: What a s y's the new season of Hard Knocks
Speaker 1: coming in August? We find this info. Mark Sessler wrote,
Speaker 1: a banger lead hard Knocks is sticking around. Would hardly
Speaker 1: call that a banger. H It's like a four graph
Speaker 1: PR release that they summary reason I put my name on.
Speaker 1: This year's five episode season scheduled to launch on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: August eight, which is right around when it always starts.
Speaker 1: And uh uh. The announcement came that they they're staying
Speaker 1: in bed together. That's great. So but now let's break
Speaker 1: it down. There has not been a team name yet. Um.
Speaker 1: Last year the team was announced, you know, the Rams
Speaker 1: as we recall a little earlier, but usually it happens
Speaker 1: later in the spring. I'm thinking around late in May.
Speaker 1: But our job, one of our jobs does um I
Speaker 1: thot me and he's read, go, what do you think
Speaker 1: about it? Did a very solid job. We're going, Yeah,
Speaker 1: is that is everyone comfortable with the situation. I like
Speaker 1: the product. That's Mr Flame already. We gotta talk. We
Speaker 1: gotta talk to Mikey. I hope he's not angry. We've
Speaker 1: only seen nice sides of Mr. Flame. Maybe this is
Speaker 1: when we see the dark side. It's possible. And this
Speaker 1: came very abruptly with no notice at all. No be angry.
Speaker 1: I mean, what has he done? He's been nothing but
Speaker 1: a glorious sponsor and then one day, poof, he's out
Speaker 1: of the game and we double up on new sponsors.
Speaker 1: Well we look a little mercenary. Greg, Greg loves it.
Speaker 1: You know, Greg is a mercenary. We learned that Friday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Um, maybe Mr Flame he had a great run.
Speaker 1: Well more can you ask? All right, let's let's keep
Speaker 1: moving anyway. So hard knocks, Uh, there is there's a
Speaker 1: whole system to hard knocks, which we'll get to in
Speaker 1: a little bit, where whereby a lot of teams can
Speaker 1: be excluded from the process. Uh, though you can also
Speaker 1: any team can volunteer to be on the show. I
Speaker 1: think the Jaguars or we've kind of heard whispers that
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have been begging to be on the show
Speaker 1: for years and years. Maybe that's just an unfair rumor,
Speaker 1: but for the most part, Uh, there's a general sense
Speaker 1: that teams are kind of plucked to to appear on
Speaker 1: the show, maybe sometimes against their will. We'll see what
Speaker 1: happens this year. So why don't we talk about Hard
Speaker 1: Knocks and specifically who we would like to see? Uh?
Speaker 1: Your number one choice, factoring out who has to be picked,
Speaker 1: who can be picked, who's you know who, who's off
Speaker 1: the hook? Uh, let's go around the room here and
Speaker 1: I'll start uh with you Mark Sessler. I've always wanted
Speaker 1: to see my favorite team, the Browns, on Hard Knocks.
Speaker 1: And here's here's one of the major reasons. August is
Speaker 1: the last month that they have to be relevant, and
Speaker 1: I beyond that. Honestly, that's been the case year after year.
Speaker 1: Once the games start, all the off season build up
Speaker 1: in drama, and they are typically a pretty interesting team
Speaker 1: in the off season. You'd allow it to crescendo for
Speaker 1: once because the minute the games start, forget about it.
Speaker 1: That's when we focus on all these great teams and
Speaker 1: organizations that consistently go to the playoffs. I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot. There's also in many years, there would have
Speaker 1: been a case for Cleveland to be an interesting target
Speaker 1: because you've got this new front office is trying to
Speaker 1: do things in a way that no other team has
Speaker 1: done it of late. You've got Hugh Jackson, who was
Speaker 1: great during the Bengals are knocks like he was fantastic
Speaker 1: on it could be a good personality. Jimmy haslum Isn't
Speaker 1: is an owner that would be intriguing on camera. I
Speaker 1: don't think we have. We still there's a lot of
Speaker 1: preconceived notions about him. You probably have Miles Garrett the
Speaker 1: number one draft pick. You probably have a rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: at number twelve. You'd still have basically the age old
Speaker 1: storyline of the team trying to tug itself out of hell,
Speaker 1: and you're throwing at Josh Gordon. Potentially. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of moving parts here. And I do feel like we've
Speaker 1: seen certain teams sort of over and over and this
Speaker 1: would be I don't know why they've never gotten on it,
Speaker 1: but it would be a team unlike any other in
Speaker 1: terms of now they're not the most successful, they are
Speaker 1: the least successful. How do you rise out of the ashes?
Speaker 1: I like it. I think there's one one reason why
Speaker 1: we haven't seen them yet is if you hire a
Speaker 1: new coach, you can stay off the show for a
Speaker 1: couple of years. And they hire coach. Literally they've been
Speaker 1: doing it for like a decade, so they've kept themselves
Speaker 1: on that list of teams that um can avoid being
Speaker 1: on the show against their will. You could have a
Speaker 1: little Brock situation Tony Grossy and this angry contingent of
Speaker 1: beat writers. I just think there's a lot of anger
Speaker 1: and pope and passion all mixed up into one. I
Speaker 1: think it would be and I think it would be
Speaker 1: an interesting team. And looking at the list and there's
Speaker 1: only eight on an article that Dan wrote, you can
Speaker 1: find who are the teams the NFL can man can
Speaker 1: they can compel them to be on the show. They
Speaker 1: can make them be on the show, and they would
Speaker 1: have no other choice. The Browns are one of those eight,
Speaker 1: And looking at that list, I thought, I it wouldn't
Speaker 1: totally shock me if they were the Hard Knocks team
Speaker 1: this year. Mark sold wouldn't be number one on my list,
Speaker 1: but it would be a fun one. I thought they
Speaker 1: would be boring, and then Mark sold me on. I
Speaker 1: thought that was pretty compelling, especially with the number one
Speaker 1: overall pick and then a rookie quarterback. Also, that could
Speaker 1: be an interesting It could be the closest thing Joe
Speaker 1: Thomas gets to the playoffs. Oh not wrong, I will
Speaker 1: amend what I said. If you hire a new coach,
Speaker 1: it keeps you out of the mix for that year.
Speaker 1: So the Browns are on the list this year, and
Speaker 1: the list is eight teams that that can be I
Speaker 1: liked your use. They're compelled, Slash Told, Bears, Buccaneers, Brown's, Cults, Eagles, Ravens, Saints,
Speaker 1: and Titans all can be forced to be on the show. Uh.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so the Browns that I like that choice.
Speaker 1: I liked it the last couple of years. I liked
Speaker 1: it was always interesting to me when Manzel was in
Speaker 1: the mix. He's obviously not there anymore. But Uh, plenty
Speaker 1: of good storylines. West. Who would you want to see
Speaker 1: on the show. I want to see the Patriots, the
Speaker 1: defining team of the era, like the sixties Packers, the
Speaker 1: seventies Steelers, the eighties forty Niners, the early nineties Cowboys.
Speaker 1: This is the team of the era. You know, every
Speaker 1: Friday during the season, we get a glimpse of the
Speaker 1: real Belichick, not the one who's buttoned up and refuses
Speaker 1: to speak to the media, but Friday afternoons, he's in
Speaker 1: a good mood and he out lines what's going on
Speaker 1: with the NFL that week or what's going on with
Speaker 1: his opponent that week, and it's some of the most
Speaker 1: fascinating football conversation going. If we could get a peek
Speaker 1: at that, that would be cool. If we get a
Speaker 1: peek at how driven Tom Brady is to mow down
Speaker 1: age barriers. How why do the Patriots value Jimmy Garoppolo
Speaker 1: so much? He's he really that Do his teammates really
Speaker 1: think he's that good? I think there's all kinds of
Speaker 1: issues and the defining team of its era, as Dan
Speaker 1: has said, has now clicked in to win now mode
Speaker 1: after they want a Super Bowl. This is this could
Speaker 1: be the best Patriots team of the Brady Belichick era.
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty fascinating. More Patriots in your life, Danny, Well,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen for the simple reason that they're
Speaker 1: way too controlling of their brand, compelled by an NFL
Speaker 1: that they've gone back and forth with. Couldn't the NFL
Speaker 1: say to them, the NFL and the Patriots are not
Speaker 1: on a great footing. I don't think now they're off
Speaker 1: the list if you make the playoffs in the last
Speaker 1: two years. But uh, well, stranger though, if you really
Speaker 1: want to imagine what it would be like the Patriots
Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks, there was that random season long documentary
Speaker 1: about I believe the two thousand nine Patriots Your Job
Speaker 1: that was? What was it? Wasn't it do your job? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was. It was really on Belichick phrase, it was
Speaker 1: unbelievably Wait, we're mixing two of them up. Actually there
Speaker 1: one was about the twenty nine I believe it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they lost to the Ravens in the playoffs. Twenty was
Speaker 1: the year after Brady came back from the a c L.
Speaker 1: So it's two thousand nine. That was a football life
Speaker 1: actually that they went under that band or even though
Speaker 1: it's totally but that was if you want to know,
Speaker 1: you'll never see them on Hard Knocks. But if you
Speaker 1: want to know what it was like it was focused
Speaker 1: on Belichick, but it also had a lot of moments
Speaker 1: like Brady in Belichick's office. I don't think, especially with
Speaker 1: all that's transpired uh in the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Patriots would ever signed off on
Speaker 1: NFL cameras having that type of access ever again. But
Speaker 1: it would even as a Patriots hater, it would be
Speaker 1: fun to see the see behind closed doors. So I
Speaker 1: get it you're carrying the water or west for your
Speaker 1: favorite team, but I don't think it's a bad choice. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you have there, you have your jets. I
Speaker 1: like interesting football teams that are well run, right, it's
Speaker 1: not you. I mean, it's kind of a fake fandom.
Speaker 1: It's not. It's not a fandom at all. It's just
Speaker 1: you're not what I like about football teams that are
Speaker 1: good at what they do. You're a fan mercenary, that's
Speaker 1: what you are. I mean, call it what you want.
Speaker 1: I just like the sport. You like a bad football team, right,
Speaker 1: I like the sport too, but I also have a
Speaker 1: loyalty to a team. You jumped off of your your team,
Speaker 1: and now you jump around whoever is good. Make no apologies.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not, you know, accusing you. The Titans
Speaker 1: weren't good, but I jumped around to them. I jumped
Speaker 1: around to interesting teams. When you are like ninety one
Speaker 1: and eighties seven or whatever your age differences, you're going
Speaker 1: to be having the same exact conversation. No, you know,
Speaker 1: I because West will come back to the Bengals one day.
Speaker 1: That's not happening one day when he's up. I think
Speaker 1: when when he settles down and has a kid and
Speaker 1: his son's like, Papa, I want to watch football with you,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, hey, you can still watch fifty eight
Speaker 1: year old Tom Brady who's still still in the Pro Bowl. Um,
Speaker 1: just think about that was we stole the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: Then I'll throw one out there, Dallas Cowboys, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why it's not gonna be for the reason
Speaker 1: you think a lot of people will be like, oh,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, blah blah blah. You know they're They're the
Speaker 1: America's team. No, I'm I'm digging in a little deeper
Speaker 1: than that, because I believe, in my opinion, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are are are you know, set for a painfully disappointing
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen and I want to be I want
Speaker 1: to be in on the ground floor, baby, interesting. I
Speaker 1: want to look into this their confidence. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: the confidence coming out of that building right now, the
Speaker 1: self belief within that complex, and what this team will
Speaker 1: be achieving. And I just want to give a little
Speaker 1: history lesson for people. And I know these things are
Speaker 1: not necessarily you know, they don't all tie together. But
Speaker 1: the last five seasons, the Cowboys have had a double
Speaker 1: digit win total two thousand three, ten and six, two
Speaker 1: thousand four, six and ten, two thousand, seven, thirteen and three,
Speaker 1: two thousand eight, nine and seven, missed the playoffs two thousand, nine,
Speaker 1: eleven and five, two thousand ten, six and ten, two thousand, fourteen,
Speaker 1: twelve and four, two thousand, fifteen, four and twelve by
Speaker 1: transitive properties, thirteen and three and two thousand six, Oh yeah, baby,
Speaker 1: three and thirteen and two thousand seventeen. You just want
Speaker 1: to see it all burned down. Some people just want
Speaker 1: to watch the world burn That's me. I want to
Speaker 1: see it. And here's some of the other positive things
Speaker 1: about it. Uh they I think they're gonna be in
Speaker 1: that practice facility, that brand new practice facility. I'm intered.
Speaker 1: I like seeing those things, like they have a a
Speaker 1: practice facility that's worth more than some stadiums, and I
Speaker 1: want to get it. I want to get behind the
Speaker 1: closed doors there. Jared Jones is gonna be all over
Speaker 1: that thing. And I like Jerry, Like some owners like
Speaker 1: you brought up Jimmy Haslum, I would imagine he would
Speaker 1: potentially stay in the shadows a little bit. A lot
Speaker 1: of owners aren't really out out in front for the
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks season, But you know Jerry, he's a whole
Speaker 1: different situation. Maybe we get on the Jerry bus. That's fun.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, he's the biggest issue here, huge dud, actually
Speaker 1: the biggest dud on this program since Mike Smith and
Speaker 1: his Tevas Tevis. We never did figure that out. Uh,
Speaker 1: Like if you want to talk about like the anti
Speaker 1: power rankings for head coaches on Hard Knocks, basically Mike
Speaker 1: Smith in two thousand and fourteen and um got his
Speaker 1: name Mike Joe Filman in two thousand twelve. I believe
Speaker 1: what was Jeff Fisher wasn't doing too much for me
Speaker 1: either now, but yeah, that's true. What was Joe Philban's
Speaker 1: legacy was really as the guy who cleans up after
Speaker 1: the room when people leave it. It's like picks up
Speaker 1: little pieces of paper walking around and be in the
Speaker 1: wrong business picking up gum on the practice field and
Speaker 1: telling people to tie their shoelaces. That was the most
Speaker 1: exciting thing about Philman on Hard Knocks anyway. So you
Speaker 1: get the stars, you got Deaz, you got Zeke, you
Speaker 1: got Dak, you got stars. You've got drama and a forebetting,
Speaker 1: foreboding sense of general doom with the Cowboys. Well, Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: you know, has done Our Knocks twice before, and the
Speaker 1: last time they were on, you know, might be the
Speaker 1: reason why he would be afraid to do it, because
Speaker 1: they could not be compelled, but they could raise their
Speaker 1: hands and say, hey, we want to do it, and
Speaker 1: I would assume the NFL films would love that they
Speaker 1: did it. The last time. They were coming off thirteen
Speaker 1: and three with t O and Tony Romo and Wade
Speaker 1: Phillips as their coach, and I think it was the
Speaker 1: single most disappointing season in the history of Hard Knocks.
Speaker 1: Maybe not the worst, but probably in the three or
Speaker 1: four worst, but the most excitement going into Wow, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be great Tony Romo t o like this
Speaker 1: awesome team that just lost the heartbreaker to the Giants
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and it was just kind of a
Speaker 1: season that nothing really happened. It has potential to be
Speaker 1: less than you'd think it would be. I feel like
Speaker 1: we've been there, done that with the Cowboys a little bit.
Speaker 1: It would be you've got new players in there, it
Speaker 1: would be it would be intriguing to see these young
Speaker 1: guys behind the scenes. But uh, you know, it also
Speaker 1: reinforced the idea that the NFL is truly only focused
Speaker 1: on about five or six teams. I don't know if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys want to show behind the scenes with the
Speaker 1: Zekeo Elliott right, Well, that's fair. By the way, cowboys
Speaker 1: were on it in two thousand two, which is ancient history,
Speaker 1: and it was a different show. Frankly back then, I
Speaker 1: don't really count that. And then two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: so as Greg alluded to, and that was, you know,
Speaker 1: almost a decade ago, so it's not like it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we just had the Cowboys on the show. Everything is
Speaker 1: different there, with the exception of the owner. At this stage, Greg, well,
Speaker 1: I think we we could talk a little after this
Speaker 1: about teams we actually think will be on and so
Speaker 1: I'll admit that this team has no chance to be on,
Speaker 1: but it's a team I would personally want to be
Speaker 1: on more than any other, and that's the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1: The first thing in hard Knocks is do you have
Speaker 1: a compelling head coach? There might not be a head
Speaker 1: coach in the league i'd rather see for five weeks
Speaker 1: behind the scenes than Mike Tomas. I just think he's
Speaker 1: a dynamic personality. You're not sure what you're getting with them. Everyone,
Speaker 1: as everyone who's ever spoken with him is like, this
Speaker 1: guy's a leader. This guy kind of controls the room.
Speaker 1: He's a presence. You know. I would walk around for
Speaker 1: everyone in there, and so does Rob Bryan. So there's that,
Speaker 1: and I think Mike Tomin is kind of the coach
Speaker 1: version of the Steelers. There's something mysterious about them. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're this great organization that we hear all about. You know,
Speaker 1: they're they're one of the organizations in the NFL, but
Speaker 1: they're they're kind of private. They keep things inside, so
Speaker 1: that's kind of like the Patriots. That's why I would
Speaker 1: love to see them. I think Ben Roethlisberger you know,
Speaker 1: mixing in with his teammates. I think you got some
Speaker 1: personalities there at skill position with Antonio Brown and Levan
Speaker 1: Bell and Martavis Bryant's return. You could have James Harrison
Speaker 1: returning to the mix again. He's always fun on hard knocks.
Speaker 1: Just Bengal season, a bit of a little bit of
Speaker 1: the Rooney's um, you know some of the now you're
Speaker 1: selling me. I'm serious though, if you love if you
Speaker 1: love football, this is one of the most important families,
Speaker 1: and I think they would dive into, you know, the
Speaker 1: history of this. Just I don't think they'd ever do
Speaker 1: it because they're so traditional. They like to run a
Speaker 1: tough training camp too, that has gotten under the radar
Speaker 1: of the NFL. So maybe they don't want cameras in
Speaker 1: there they and yeah, they have a beautiful location, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, traditional location for their train It would be
Speaker 1: it would be delightful as a football fan. I don't
Speaker 1: think it will ever happen all right now. Of the
Speaker 1: so there are four choices, personal choices, uh. And then
Speaker 1: of the eight teams that can be chosen, what do
Speaker 1: you guys, who you think is most likely Let's say,
Speaker 1: let's work off the premise that it will be one
Speaker 1: of those teams, which is not necessarily how will play out,
Speaker 1: but Bears, Bucks, Brown's, Cults, Eagles, Ravens, Saints and Titans. Great.
Speaker 1: You said something interesting downstairs that I kind of buy
Speaker 1: into a little bit about the team you think could happen. Well,
Speaker 1: I thought the Saints were a logical choice. They've never
Speaker 1: it's never happened before. Or you just got the New
Speaker 1: Orleans element. You know they have training camp down there,
Speaker 1: You've got people that fans know it's the end of
Speaker 1: the Sean Payton era. You know, perhaps Drew Brees is there.
Speaker 1: You maybe wouldn't have ownership getting in the way with
Speaker 1: Tom Benson. I think that would be a compelling choice.
Speaker 1: I can't deal with that much Sean Payton in my life.
Speaker 1: I just can't. They could be like a team people
Speaker 1: love to hate a little bit too. Watch cannot watch
Speaker 1: Sean Payton just lie all through every episode. He also,
Speaker 1: you know, Sean Payton coming off like fourteen straight, seven
Speaker 1: and nine is the most underrated subplot in the NFL
Speaker 1: right now. You know, he knows his number could be
Speaker 1: up soon, and if he continues to struggle in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: this could be like a good way to get his
Speaker 1: brand out there. Hey look how cool I am, and
Speaker 1: I'm the guy you want leading the operation. He's He's
Speaker 1: publicly spoken against Hard Knocks a few times and even
Speaker 1: said he would never allow cameras to show release of
Speaker 1: a player. He thinks that's inhumane. Um, but he did
Speaker 1: say last year, and I don't know if this was
Speaker 1: in response to a Pro Football Talk article where the
Speaker 1: Saints were bracing to be chosen as last year's and
Speaker 1: Sean Payton did said, you know, say, you know, if
Speaker 1: if we got picked, I'll be I'll be the smiling,
Speaker 1: good guy. You know, he'll take it. So who knows?
Speaker 1: Anybody else? Want to throw out who you think of
Speaker 1: that group? I could see the Saints. I think the
Speaker 1: Titans are Maybe the Titans are intriguing, although head coach
Speaker 1: scenario there, head coach, if the if you pick up
Speaker 1: the slack another area, could they could the Eagles be
Speaker 1: a team? I think they would be intriguing and they
Speaker 1: might say yes, Bucks not terrible. James Winston has charisma.
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks are connected with everything right now,
Speaker 1: whether it's a free agent, destination's trade possibilities, hard knocks
Speaker 1: choices all right, finally, Mark you uh, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you one last chance. You are as everyone knows a
Speaker 1: Browns fan? What what what do you have to say
Speaker 1: in the closing thoughts? Well, I just I wanted to
Speaker 1: say there are a couple of teams that I don't
Speaker 1: think should be featured on hard Knocks. I have a couple.
Speaker 1: I have a no list, a soft note, but but
Speaker 1: also I mean it right. Dolphins, Bills, Steelers, Ravens, Chargers, Broncos,
Speaker 1: and the Seattle Seahawks. The next list is definitely not.
Speaker 1: Definitely it's the worst list to be These are the
Speaker 1: teams I don't want on it. This is the definitely
Speaker 1: not list. The Bengals, the Patriots, the Raiders, the Titans,
Speaker 1: the Cults, the Giants, the Redskins, the Cowboys, the Panthers,
Speaker 1: the Lions, the Vikings, the Bucks, the Falcons, and the Texans.
Speaker 1: And the final tiers go after yourself. That's even worse
Speaker 1: than definitely you're not getting on the show. Saints, Jets, Chiefs, Jaguars, Eagles, Packers, Bears, Niners, Cardinals,
Speaker 1: and of course the Rams. Okay, so who does that leave? Leaves?
Speaker 1: The Browns get it right this time My list is
Speaker 1: both New York teams. They're already They're already as overexposed
Speaker 1: as you could possibly get by every media member in
Speaker 1: this country. Lest this was a little unecessary, I mean
Speaker 1: we knew that already. Yeah, don't know, Jets are giants? Please, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to worry about the Jets. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to worry about the Giants either.
Speaker 1: You'll be okay, Chris, you'll get through this. You don't
Speaker 1: even watch a show, do you. If it's a good season,
Speaker 1: I'll watch it, Okay, all right, So I wanted to
Speaker 1: have someone on the phone, but we're we're running a
Speaker 1: little short on time. We have to do an NFL
Speaker 1: network kid, we got a meeting with some shadowy league figures,
Speaker 1: so we're just we're gonna bump this guy, uh like
Speaker 1: Matt Damon on the Jimmy Kimmel Show, and maybe maybe
Speaker 1: we can make something also not like Matt Damon at all.
Speaker 1: I think long time listeners of the podcast could guess
Speaker 1: who this looks like. A tall gonna say, bears more
Speaker 1: than a passing resemblance to Hollywood superstar Matt Damon. On.
Speaker 1: Everything like a six ft six version of Yeah, not
Speaker 1: a bad looking dude. Anyway, he's bumped. So it's like
Speaker 1: good news, bad news. Good news is you've been compared
Speaker 1: to a major league hunk. Bad news. Once again, another
Speaker 1: opportunity goes by the boards to get back on the show.
Speaker 1: Maybe next week or excuse me, maybe next show, or
Speaker 1: maybe next week or maybe next year. But we gotta go.
Speaker 1: We gotta start preparing for other aspects. A lot of
Speaker 1: people think this is the only thing we do in
Speaker 1: NFL media. This is only that's some streets talking about
Speaker 1: our roles got you. You'd be surprised to us how
Speaker 1: many how like how many people don't realize how much
Speaker 1: writing we do that are huge fans of the pocket.
Speaker 1: Check out what our stuff at NFL dot com, slash news.
Speaker 1: It's ironic because you know, the listeners think this is
Speaker 1: the only part of our job, whereas our bosses don't
Speaker 1: even count it as part of our It's very it's
Speaker 1: it's a horrible tug of war. Speaking of the listeners,
Speaker 1: shout out to all the people. When Mark tweeted out
Speaker 1: a photo with John Gonzalez and it who tweeted that
Speaker 1: they needed Greg Rosental to explain who the fourth person
Speaker 1: was in the picture. All right, let's go. Got work
Speaker 1: to do, got other things to do. Stan had the
Speaker 1: signing off for a quiet storm, the mailman, the boss,
Speaker 1: and I'll see it behind the glass. See you Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I am not happy. Do dote