WEBVTT - Hard Knocks nominations

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<v Speaker 1>Da Around the NFL Podcast would win a pickup game

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<v Speaker 1>against Daniel Jeremiah. Welcome back to another edition of the

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<v Speaker 1>Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am joined by a room film with heroes Mark Sessler,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up boys, Hey Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually speaking of DJ. He was up here in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio when we got upstairs. Of course, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a guest on Friday show, and I think he might

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<v Speaker 1>have taken my advice. I think he might have started

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast here. Sounded like it. So if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody look into it. If Dan has a show, he's

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<v Speaker 1>leveraging our appearance into his own endeavor. Best of luck

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<v Speaker 1>to Daniels Eremiah. I missed this showdown between DJ and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of you, so some good feedback. People enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't It was kind of uh, a one on

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<v Speaker 1>one battle with Greg laughing like a jackal every time

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<v Speaker 1>DJ put down my appearance. I gotta check this out.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of a lot of reveal mcnifico a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I shared with Greg. I said, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>thing where I you know, where I come from, the

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<v Speaker 1>coldtown it's called home team that he doesn't want You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want me laughing at DJs. It was all it

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<v Speaker 1>was about the type of laughing that you were doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like, remember what team we're on. We're

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<v Speaker 1>all on the same team here. You can't just jump

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<v Speaker 1>around and defect. To be fair to Greg, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably laughing just as hard. Trust me, Trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>I could pick up things. Sounds it's good natured from

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<v Speaker 1>West Colleen, A little on the fence. Greg very clear

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<v Speaker 1>as a mercenary in this. I mean, his whole bit

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of a you know, fantastic, you know, absurd bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't even know laughing hard at something so

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<v Speaker 1>absurd there would be no offense to be taken from that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like absurd, Like Greg is always picking up

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<v Speaker 1>the pieces socially after, you know, completely destroying someone without

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<v Speaker 1>trying to. That's also why I'm not like mad at

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<v Speaker 1>Greg was upset that I was mad after the show

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<v Speaker 1>and even sent like a text later on like hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a fun show, all kidding aside, just to

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<v Speaker 1>see if I was mad at him. But I know

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<v Speaker 1>that I know that Greg. You know, sometimes in these

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<v Speaker 1>social situations he can get on people's radar. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>learned that. And I love Greg matter because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't pussy foot around as much as

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. That must be in the way to diagnoseig um.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I was back in my cold town. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a little thing called busting Balls. You know, don't

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<v Speaker 1>get me started in your cold town with gorgeous views

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<v Speaker 1>of the Atlantic, you know, Yeah, that's western Massachusetts for you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, cow farms. All kidding aside, great show today

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<v Speaker 1>and big news because today's show around the NFL podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is driven people by Hyundai. Uh, this is a little awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say we were aware that there was a

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<v Speaker 1>new sponsor coming into the fold in April, but as

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<v Speaker 1>things happen in the world west sometimes you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you forget when when the month changes over. And we

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<v Speaker 1>would have loved to talk to Mr Flame about this first,

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<v Speaker 1>to be quite honest with you, Well, that was the plan.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a major surprise to him. So Mark, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're extremely almost oddly close to Mr Flame, the

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<v Speaker 1>great Mr f If you could reach out to him,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we can oddly what I mean, you know again,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I think we have to reach out to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I do know that over the last whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it was, how many months did he operated him in

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<v Speaker 1>his high school class in the Hague the Netherlands, operated

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<v Speaker 1>it at our sponsor, many lunches, many gifts, many things

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<v Speaker 1>coming directly to the four of us and also to Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>What is Hyundai going to give us? Somebody took you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on your your car tires, the little plastic piece where

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<v Speaker 1>you inflate attire, someone took them off my car. If

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<v Speaker 1>they send me four of those little plastic pieces, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying you have to, but as a gesture of

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<v Speaker 1>goodwill to get this relationship going, for those little plastic

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<v Speaker 1>things would be great. So welcome aboard Hundai. Um you have.

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<v Speaker 1>We're happy that you're driving us. According to the copy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now today's show a great one, and Mark, reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to your very very close friend, Mr F and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we can broker some type of what is the What

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<v Speaker 1>is your issue with the fact that I'm friends with

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<v Speaker 1>Mr F? Not an issue, It's just an observation that

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<v Speaker 1>you've become more than passing like email buddies. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>little more yes or no. Your fond is a little

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<v Speaker 1>more personal than the rest of us. This is I

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to see your research on this, but I'd

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<v Speaker 1>say that I consider him a genuine friend. Yeah Facebook friends,

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<v Speaker 1>we you know, a genuine wish him. Well, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what I'm hitting at. And now you're painting it

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<v Speaker 1>like any friendship between two people where there's any level

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<v Speaker 1>of depth to it, there's something obviously wrong and involved.

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<v Speaker 1>It must just be we. I must be using him

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason or vice versaity, like he's just a

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<v Speaker 1>good guy. By now. This is kind of digging into

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<v Speaker 1>your own head right now, that is what it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like a little bit, you know, take it down a notch. Dan, alright, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>so you are you are? Just can you at least

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<v Speaker 1>reach out to him? That's all I would be happy to.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's show will feature a breakdown of hard Knocks. How

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<v Speaker 1>about that hard knocks? Uh? There's some news today that

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<v Speaker 1>HBO and NFL films. Uh, they have I guess re

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<v Speaker 1>up their contract or commitment with each other. So not

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<v Speaker 1>that it was something that was hanging in the balance

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<v Speaker 1>or hanging in the air. We all expected another season

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<v Speaker 1>to arrive this summer, but we will be getting and

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<v Speaker 1>then that gives this opportunity to jump off and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some teams we'd like to see. Uh in I

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<v Speaker 1>believe is the what is the twelfth season of the

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<v Speaker 1>groundbreaking HBO documentary series. So we'll go through that. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>nominate teams. Awesome fun with it. That's what we do

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<v Speaker 1>around here. We have funds Hyundai. I've been reminded not

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<v Speaker 1>una hund like Sunday. Everybody know that. All right, we

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<v Speaker 1>do now, all right, and uh, maybe we'll have a

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<v Speaker 1>special guest at the end of the show. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>if it works out. But let's get to some news folks,

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<v Speaker 1>get to that a little bit later to uh. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>start though with the Dallas Cowboys and the Tony Romo

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<v Speaker 1>Romo saga um and what appears to be the next

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<v Speaker 1>step in Romo disconnecting with the Cowboys permanently. Cowboys owner

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Jones has reached out to all thirty two NFL

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<v Speaker 1>teams letting them know that uh quote, they are permitted

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<v Speaker 1>to contact Tony Romo or his agent to schedule a workout,

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<v Speaker 1>visit or physical This according to NFL Networks Mike Garafolo.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Garfolo noted Monday that talks are to be limited

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<v Speaker 1>to conversations concerning Romo's two thousand, seventeen to nineteen NFL

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<v Speaker 1>player contract. I'm sure that would be honored. Chris WESTLINGH,

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<v Speaker 1>can you tell me, uh in your what does this

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<v Speaker 1>mean to you? Are we getting closer to finally Romo

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<v Speaker 1>being at a Dallas or is this just going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to drag on? I like the way you phrase that,

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<v Speaker 1>what does it mean to me? Because to everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>it means last ditch attempt at a trade before workouts start.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, not usually part of the tinfoil hat brigade here,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jerry Jones has made comments in the past that

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<v Speaker 1>he likes he likes soap opers to extend throughout an

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<v Speaker 1>offseason because the attention it gives the NFL. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a coincidence this is this news is released

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<v Speaker 1>on opening day for baseball. He's dragging He is dragging

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<v Speaker 1>out this Tony Romo saga for all of March because

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<v Speaker 1>it's good for the NFL to to make news during

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<v Speaker 1>baseball's time of year, and Jerry is most people know this,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jones is probably the most influential owner in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>So West his theory here that he's he's working to

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<v Speaker 1>juice the NFL. Makes sense because he's basically one step

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<v Speaker 1>below the commissioner. He there's some showmanship to Jerry Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>He appreciates, uh, you know, dragging things out, getting more

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<v Speaker 1>interest in it, you know. So why he moved the

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders to Vegas, he moved the Rams to Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>he just I mean he was. He was instrumental in

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<v Speaker 1>getting the other owners to agree that Vegas would be

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<v Speaker 1>good for the NFL. I I really don't think he

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<v Speaker 1>wants anything to do with this whole thing about a

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<v Speaker 1>good guy packed with Romo that you let him off

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<v Speaker 1>your roster and he floats downstate to Houston. I really

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Jerry Jones wants Tony Romo to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a super Bowl level defense in Houston and get them

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<v Speaker 1>deep into the playoffs. It's taking the attention in a

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<v Speaker 1>state you dominate to a completely different place, right, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's just exhausting every possible avenue to find

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<v Speaker 1>a different outcome than him landing on the Texans. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really see why any team that would be interested

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<v Speaker 1>in Romo would change their minds in any way because

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<v Speaker 1>they could schedule a workout with them, Like no one

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<v Speaker 1>was really looking to trade him before, why would they

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<v Speaker 1>be now? And what's the difference? One question about And

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<v Speaker 1>now we're hearing that the Broncos aren't really in and

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like Texans or bust. I have a real

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<v Speaker 1>issue with that in the sense that why does if

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<v Speaker 1>Elway likes Baxton Lynch and Trevor Simeon, why does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean that precludes the Broncos from getting Tony Romo, who

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<v Speaker 1>is at best, let's face it, a two year patch

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe far less than that. Why can't they continue

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<v Speaker 1>to develop those two guys if you like them, and

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<v Speaker 1>also get Tony Romo and see how it works out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they could if the price was right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think always shown the past couple of years that

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<v Speaker 1>he wants a core her back at his price. He

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<v Speaker 1>did it with Kaepernick. Kaepernick refused to pay cut. He

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't pay what the Texans were paying for us while

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<v Speaker 1>er either. And it makes sense for him to put

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<v Speaker 1>it out there that they're not really that interested because

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<v Speaker 1>he's not in a trade and he kind of sees

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<v Speaker 1>a situation where it sure looks like Houston cleared the

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<v Speaker 1>decks for Romo, and that Romo wants to play for Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's not gonna let it out there. Now a

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<v Speaker 1>situation happened where suddenly Romo was sitting out there and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe his price went down. I found this interesting, though,

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<v Speaker 1>the most important part of this news to me is

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<v Speaker 1>that I think Tony Romo is planning to play football,

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<v Speaker 1>because Jerry Jones said he met with Romo last week

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<v Speaker 1>and he was going to meet with him soon after

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<v Speaker 1>the owners meeting. Then this news comes out. I I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's safe to assume that Tony Romo and his

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<v Speaker 1>representatives are We're on board with whatever this news is.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me that that sounds like a guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to take the steps to play football, not to

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<v Speaker 1>not to announce moving forward. Adrian Peterson still out there.

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<v Speaker 1>The only team he's connected to right now is the

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego Graybeards, but he did meet with the New

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<v Speaker 1>England Patriots on Monday. Rap Sheet reported uh it was

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<v Speaker 1>the veteran running back second free agent visit of the offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>following a meeting with the Seattle Seahawks last month. He

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<v Speaker 1>left UH the Patriot Way without a deal. According to

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Schreeger of good Morning football. But that doesn't mean, uh, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>that a deal won't get done with the Pats. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that would be a good fit. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start there, Patriots Adrian Peterson. I think it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the few teams that seem like it would be a fit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean West has been talking about that link

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<v Speaker 1>for for months and it makes some sense. I I

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<v Speaker 1>think a visit like this didn't need to end in

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<v Speaker 1>assigning to be the only way that you get maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're they're doing their homework. The Patriots do

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<v Speaker 1>care about the person too, And if you look back,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Kerr and your boy Greg wrote an article where

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<v Speaker 1>he included some of the comments that Jonathan Craft made

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<v Speaker 1>about Adrian Peterson when the old child abuse thing went down,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever work we want to call that, and he called

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<v Speaker 1>it unacceptable and abhorrance. So that's two years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have come around to Adrian Peterson's

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<v Speaker 1>version of all that to some degree, others have not.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is a factor, even though it's not

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<v Speaker 1>as much of a hot button issue as it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been right after it happened. But they they you're

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<v Speaker 1>signing up for the person. They don't want Joe Mixon,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, They're not interested in him, so they do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just take anyone no matter what they represent

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<v Speaker 1>off the field. Tom Current, you mentioned that article. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean his theory is they're just doing a solid to

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<v Speaker 1>Peterson's agent. That's it. Ben Dogger is coming off bend aggress.

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<v Speaker 1>His agent used to be one of, if not the

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<v Speaker 1>most powerful agents, uh in the entire NFL. He's coming

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<v Speaker 1>off a suspension. Meanwhile, his biggest client can't get a job. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know they they're helping him out and they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting some information, you know. Jeff Jeff Howard Boston Harold

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<v Speaker 1>also reported they weren't comfortable enough to you know, make

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't make any offer during this trip. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that speaks a lot that that's a that's a

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory. I can buy that. There's a part B

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<v Speaker 1>to that theory too, that they're also sending a message

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<v Speaker 1>to the Garrett Blunt. Lower your you're asking price and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll bring in Peterson. Moving on, Hey, remember West, Remember

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Davis Bryant, I do that, dude. Well, he's in

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<v Speaker 1>the news, appearing on Thursday's edition of Up to the

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<v Speaker 1>Minute Live program. We will be on Monday, a little

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<v Speaker 1>late in the game for you to listen to watch that,

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<v Speaker 1>but hopefully later in the week as well. We we

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<v Speaker 1>are I think it's what it's two to three every day.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can always find these clips on NFL

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<v Speaker 1>do Anyway. Rap Sheet was on that program and said

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<v Speaker 1>that the suspended Steelers wide receiver believes he will soon

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<v Speaker 1>be returning to Pittsburgh. Here's what Rapport had to say

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<v Speaker 1>or report. When you speak to people close to him,

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<v Speaker 1>they are confident that in the near future he will

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<v Speaker 1>get word that he has been reinstated by reinstated to

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Chris, wasn't you wrote this piece up on

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<v Speaker 1>around the NFL? Remind people, Uh, I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking like this. Slow down a little bit, Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you remind people why mart Tavis Bryant uh is

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<v Speaker 1>such a special player. He's nicknamed the Alien because there's

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<v Speaker 1>no one else like him in the NFL. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>some Raindey Moss qualities to him as a six ft

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<v Speaker 1>four guy who runs you know probably right around a

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<v Speaker 1>four four forty can leap out of the building and

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<v Speaker 1>make spectacular catches like he did with that one that

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<v Speaker 1>was through his legs. Um, everything's changed in the last month.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Sessler tweeted out this quote from Kevin Quilbert on

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<v Speaker 1>March first, Mark right here, marcoun Mark Tavis was a

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<v Speaker 1>great asset, asset to us when he was available. That

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<v Speaker 1>was just four weeks ago. And now add Kinkabala reports

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<v Speaker 1>that the Steelers expect him for the start of offseason workouts. Well,

0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the phrasing was legitimate April, so they expect in the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of weeks for Roger Goodell to reinstate Martavis.

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<v Speaker 1>Bryant quite a weapon. I mean, we talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>a f C has been top heavy in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>having one or two teams you can take seriously for me,

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<v Speaker 1>at least Steelers are always one of those teams. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you add that element back into an offense that

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<v Speaker 1>also has Antonio Brown and Levy on Bell and big Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>big Ben actually returns next he's going to say, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>big Ben, we believe you might retire. Maybe Ladarius Green

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<v Speaker 1>whose battle concussion is but he plans on plane and

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<v Speaker 1>the few games he played last year he was a

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<v Speaker 1>great fit for that well, and they couldn't replace Bryant.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you wouldn't have thought losing your number two receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be you know, maybe the best number two receiver

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<v Speaker 1>in the league would be that devastating. But that spot

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being uh, a gaping hole of drops and

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<v Speaker 1>injuries and just out of sync plays by Sammy Coates

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<v Speaker 1>and Mark Sweeten and they never really found him, but

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<v Speaker 1>they did find a slot receiver, Eli Rogers, so suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>put Brian back there, and that's the best looking offense

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<v Speaker 1>in in the league. Along with the Patriots moving on,

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings have some more. Teddy Bridgewater Insurance Minnesota agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to terms with former Rams quarterback case Keenum a one year,

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<v Speaker 1>two million dollar deal. Uh. Mike Garifolo reported, Uh, Bradford,

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Bradford is going to be the starter. He's locked

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Uh. He has another year left on his deal,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. But Teddy Bridgewater, who suffered that devastating freak

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<v Speaker 1>knee injury last summer, Uh, it is no guarantee that

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be back next year or back at all. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see he's he's I think he posted a video

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<v Speaker 1>with some progress on social media last week, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was a devastating injury for Bridgewater. Greg now case Keena

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<v Speaker 1>enters as the backup, what are your thoughts just that

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<v Speaker 1>they're not counting on Bridgewater and how could they? But this,

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<v Speaker 1>this I think drives the point home that they wanted it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only did they want obviously you're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback, but they wanted someone with experience. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted what they would consider a real backup quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>because they have no idea Teddy Bridgewater is gonna play,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Zimmer said last week when asked about Bridgewater ever

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<v Speaker 1>playing again. He said, I honestly have no idea. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta keep planning. You gotta keep planning. Then that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>did they Here's my question, Like, let's say you go

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<v Speaker 1>into I guess you could eye r him, But do

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<v Speaker 1>you ever just have to cut bait with him? If

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<v Speaker 1>the if the report is just that negative by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the summer, I think it's so early. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see why, because why can't you just not

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<v Speaker 1>right now? I'm saying, if you, if you can conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot play again. Yeah, I mean, if if that,

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<v Speaker 1>if you felt strongly enough, he's not coming back to football.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't see why you wouldn't wait a whole

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<v Speaker 1>another year just to see from what we heard about

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<v Speaker 1>the severity of the injury. It's typically in these situations,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that's you know, there's specifics to every injury.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to group them all one category. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you have what's deemed a devastating kne injury, knee injury,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like fifty fifty with these guys. You can

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<v Speaker 1>be Navarro Bowman where you get back, be Mark Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Lattimore where you don't, And you just never know until

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<v Speaker 1>the process plays out and it's still ongoing. Moving on, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Brown, another gray Beard team member and a reminder,

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<v Speaker 1>once a gray Beard, always a great beer. So people

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<v Speaker 1>that tweet at me when these guys start coming off

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<v Speaker 1>the market, hey, you gotta replace z and so, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fake team, dummy. He's on the team. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever make even a start? Dad? He's dad.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not gone back and editing now ten times over.

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<v Speaker 1>The what's that thing goes out the door? It's out

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<v Speaker 1>the door anyway. The Redskins agreed to terms with inside

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker Zach Brown, spent last year with the Bills, just

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven years old, coming off a season where he

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<v Speaker 1>established career highs and tackles and forced fumbles. Uh and West, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a player that at this stage of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>I like this pick up For the Bills, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, the Redskins, I love it. He was ranked

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<v Speaker 1>on our top one O one free agents. Only Adrian

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<v Speaker 1>Peterson and Jonathan Hankins remain from the top twenties, so

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<v Speaker 1>this was a good signing. He was among the tackle

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<v Speaker 1>leaders all year last year, and if you go back

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<v Speaker 1>and watch the I believe it was the Week four

0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:00.000
<v Speaker 1>game against the Patriots. He had like eight teen tackles.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of the best games by an inside

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker all year. West is going to be telling his

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<v Speaker 1>grandchildren about this game. I mean, you love this game.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually remember when you were watch I think you

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<v Speaker 1>were watching it at work on game pass and you

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<v Speaker 1>were just like, I've never seen a linebacker play like

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<v Speaker 1>this for this game. That was a shutout wind If

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<v Speaker 1>people remember, is that West. That's that's my impression of

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<v Speaker 1>damax impression. Nobody is more abused in the people trying

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<v Speaker 1>to speak like someone in West who was just reduced

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<v Speaker 1>to some sort of mindless person with literally no education. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take that and counter you with Damna sex impression

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<v Speaker 1>of me, which maybe you haven't heard, don't heard out

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<v Speaker 1>too much, but it's it's a lot of well, I

0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:46.640
<v Speaker 1>don't really know about that checks out. West is as

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<v Speaker 1>time goes on, anybody that does a West impression, it

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<v Speaker 1>gets more and more country. Eventually just gonna be like

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<v Speaker 1>a deliverance, like the kid with a messed up phase

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<v Speaker 1>playing West. That's true. Redskins. You know, we killed the

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<v Speaker 1>Redskins for having a bad offseason and they have. It

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<v Speaker 1>is worth noting, you know, Brown is a nice pick

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<v Speaker 1>up at a position in need and their biggest losses

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<v Speaker 1>everyone you know really talked about we're wide receiver and

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<v Speaker 1>you look at their wide receivers pretty good Jamison Crowder,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Dotson if if he can get healthy, and Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Reed that's a great for you know, receiving option groups.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, maybe they're not in such moving on. Nicest

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<v Speaker 1>thing Gregg's ever said about the reds Maybe in such

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<v Speaker 1>bands shape. We are in the branch, sorry, huge olive branch,

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<v Speaker 1>very classic, but you know we now we have to

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<v Speaker 1>make up. You know who you and I yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>told you. I because I know you and you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the trust tree. That's more than me laughing. I can

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<v Speaker 1>take it. No, I can take it because you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the trust tree, and I could step back and be like,

0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.959
<v Speaker 1>not a lot of people in that tree. Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not in the tree and you do something

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<v Speaker 1>to upset the old suser and I'm not saying this

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<v Speaker 1>is like a positive a trait of mind, then you're

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble. Like I'll probably you'll never get off the list.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're in the tree, you get a significant

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<v Speaker 1>amount of rope before you're hanging from it. That way.

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<v Speaker 1>Next metaphors, you're yeah, you're like, I mean, you're like

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Miyagi Prune in the bonds Eye tree. Your tree

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty thin these days. Not a lot of new

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<v Speaker 1>members coming into the treehouse. Uh. Gronk talk Spring of Gronk.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, you know when in the early days, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're in a post Gronk world in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of documenting is off the field stuff. In his

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<v Speaker 1>early years, it was legitimate fun and you'd read profiles

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<v Speaker 1>where he would show up at Kagger's and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be spotted on a dance floor, like doing backflips with

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<v Speaker 1>a brother, or just being in a wrestling match in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the street. But now he's a little

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<v Speaker 1>more streamlined, and all these things are they seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be an extension of the Gronk brand. Perfect example, showed

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<v Speaker 1>up ringside WrestleMania thirty three on Sunday, uh and uh

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<v Speaker 1>he's good buddies with a pro wrestler named Mojo Rawley. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And they worked him into the script of the match.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to break cafe here, but they worked

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<v Speaker 1>They worked him into the script and ended up dropping

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<v Speaker 1>a shoulder um kind of like a running shoulder slam

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<v Speaker 1>type move onto another wrestler named Gender Mahal. And it

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<v Speaker 1>all started when Mahal threw a beer on Gronk. The

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<v Speaker 1>man's name is Ginger. Yeah, j I N D E R.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a wrestler of Iranian descent. Be careful, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean what you know what a surprise for Gronk

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<v Speaker 1>thinks he's just showing up to enjoy a nice sporting event.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets caught in the middle. It's it's unbelievable. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember that move when hill Billy Jim pulled it. Sure

0:22:57.480 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 1>hill Billy Jim had a couple of brothers too, back

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<v Speaker 1>when I don't remember. This gender, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 1>from Calgary, Canada, but his nationality is Indian, so a

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.919
<v Speaker 1>little far off there. You're trying, though, I see an

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.879
<v Speaker 1>effort on your party. The effort is absolutely there, and

0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:19.960
<v Speaker 1>that's important. That's important anyway, So Gronk and then uh

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<v Speaker 1>he showed up the next day. So that was Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>in Orlando. Monday in Boston. He showed up at opening

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<v Speaker 1>day for the Red Sox where Tom Brady, who would

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<v Speaker 1>was presented his missing Super Bowl jerseys earlier in the

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<v Speaker 1>day by Robert Kraft, which was documented by the team,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, with both still in motion photographers. Brady held

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<v Speaker 1>up the jerseys on the field at Fenway Park, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Gronk swiped the jersey away from Brady and ran away.

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>And then Tom Brady this is whereth checking out. It's

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of funny. Tom Brady chases runs after Gronk and

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<v Speaker 1>tackles him behind second base and retrieves the jersey once more.

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<v Speaker 1>Great fun, a little calculated, maybe not as natural as

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<v Speaker 1>the old summer of Gronk antics, but I'll sign off

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<v Speaker 1>on this one he has great potential about ten years

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 1>from now, I think, as he's nearing forty to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most ponderous public figures of our lifetime,

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<v Speaker 1>not now, not now. I get it. I like Gronk,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, can you imagine this guy's midlife priss

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes around and what sort of social media

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<v Speaker 1>platforms we have in our world, then it's gonna be rugged.

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<v Speaker 1>On a positive note, he's not moving like a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that people were afraid might never play at a high

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<v Speaker 1>level again because of becks stead to be ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the pretty well. There was a lot of discussion on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter at the time during the WrestleMania but like what

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<v Speaker 1>is Bill Like? They're shocked, like how good do you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be to be able to get clear and

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<v Speaker 1>to do WrestleMania? You know, no other page you would

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<v Speaker 1>be hot. And one response was like he probably didn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell them at all. He's just out like he's done

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:58.880
<v Speaker 1>other things like the I think ESPN magazine cover when

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>he was naked or something like he's like he's not talented.

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.159
<v Speaker 1>He minute he jumped, he climbs into the ring. You

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<v Speaker 1>could you could watch a video on the end around

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<v Speaker 1>where I wrote about it. He climbs into the ring

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<v Speaker 1>and does a running sprint and levels this guy with

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<v Speaker 1>his shoulder and Ginger Mahal, who's Canadian of Indian descent,

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<v Speaker 1>is six ft five and two thirty pounds of pure muscle,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was probably wrestling height and weight or real

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<v Speaker 1>heightened way. If you look at the video, he's bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than Gronk, so it seems pretty legit. And uh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>like running into a wall essentially like four months removed

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>from back surgery. That's all I'm gonna say, Dan, What

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a bigger fantasy for you in the

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<v Speaker 1>off season to have Tom Brady tackle Gronk and both

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<v Speaker 1>of their bodies just physically crumble and they're done crossed

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<v Speaker 1>my mind because it's surprising. Yeah, it was surprising to

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<v Speaker 1>me that Brady actually, as part of the bid at Fenway,

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>tackled Grunt and they're they're hugging each other. There's actually

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<v Speaker 1>the ap shot photos and at one point, like Brady's

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<v Speaker 1>hand is uncomfortably uh close to Grons We're getting back

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<v Speaker 1>into that region for you. Is it they closer than

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<v Speaker 1>I am to our former sponsor Mr Planet? Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>tell us, I've told you all how you took where

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>he was going with that, You thought that that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting. I typically no, I do not think

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 1>in that case. But I typically know Dan has what's

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>going on up there, coded language for all sorts of things,

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and that come into a certain certain wheels. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me lean on the kissing cousin for this West.

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<v Speaker 1>I simply said that Mark would be the best person

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<v Speaker 1>to reach out to because he's developed a more personal relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all. That's what I got out of it. That

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<v Speaker 1>we all four of us like Mr F and are

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<v Speaker 1>big fans of him, but Mark has carried on more

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<v Speaker 1>correspondence with him. Now that now the way that was described,

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<v Speaker 1>I will sign up for entirely. I mean, I'm just

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>saying I didn't say much more than that either. You

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<v Speaker 1>you put a sort of a ring of suspicion around

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, which you know. I think it's the

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<v Speaker 1>word odd that got Mark. I got on your radar?

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.719
<v Speaker 1>It did would it get on yours? If I were

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<v Speaker 1>to subscribe a friendship you have a someone as Odd, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess because he lives in the Netherlands and you've

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<v Speaker 1>never met it's I should have said unusual. Would that

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:17.479
<v Speaker 1>have been better? Not? Really strange? Different? Quirky? Wow? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And and finally in the news, Cam Newton and his

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<v Speaker 1>wife um is Cam married. Let's see I can get

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<v Speaker 1>myself in any more trouble here Cam Newton wife m

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<v Speaker 1>little Hard Knocks. Let's do it. Oh, there it is?

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<v Speaker 1>What a s y's the new season of Hard Knocks

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<v Speaker 1>coming in August? We find this info. Mark Sessler wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>a banger lead hard Knocks is sticking around. Would hardly

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>call that a banger. H It's like a four graph

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>PR release that they summary reason I put my name on.

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<v Speaker 1>This year's five episode season scheduled to launch on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>August eight, which is right around when it always starts.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh uh. The announcement came that they they're staying

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<v Speaker 1>in bed together. That's great. So but now let's break

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>it down. There has not been a team name yet. Um.

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Last year the team was announced, you know, the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>as we recall a little earlier, but usually it happens

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<v Speaker 1>later in the spring. I'm thinking around late in May.

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<v Speaker 1>But our job, one of our jobs does um I

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<v Speaker 1>thot me and he's read, go, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about it? Did a very solid job. We're going, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>is that is everyone comfortable with the situation. I like

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<v Speaker 1>the product. That's Mr Flame already. We gotta talk. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta talk to Mikey. I hope he's not angry. We've

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<v Speaker 1>only seen nice sides of Mr. Flame. Maybe this is

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>when we see the dark side. It's possible. And this

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>came very abruptly with no notice at all. No be angry.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what has he done? He's been nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>a glorious sponsor and then one day, poof, he's out

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>of the game and we double up on new sponsors.

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Well we look a little mercenary. Greg, Greg loves it.

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, Greg is a mercenary. We learned that Friday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Um, maybe Mr Flame he had a great run.

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<v Speaker 1>Well more can you ask? All right, let's let's keep

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>moving anyway. So hard knocks, Uh, there is there's a

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>whole system to hard knocks, which we'll get to in

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, where whereby a lot of teams can

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>be excluded from the process. Uh, though you can also

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>any team can volunteer to be on the show. I

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>think the Jaguars or we've kind of heard whispers that

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>the Jaguars have been begging to be on the show

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>for years and years. Maybe that's just an unfair rumor,

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>but for the most part, Uh, there's a general sense

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>that teams are kind of plucked to to appear on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, maybe sometimes against their will. We'll see what

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.239
<v Speaker 1>happens this year. So why don't we talk about Hard

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Knocks and specifically who we would like to see? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Your number one choice, factoring out who has to be picked,

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<v Speaker 1>who can be picked, who's you know who, who's off

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the hook? Uh, let's go around the room here and

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll start uh with you Mark Sessler. I've always wanted

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>to see my favorite team, the Browns, on Hard Knocks.

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And here's here's one of the major reasons. August is

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>the last month that they have to be relevant, and

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I beyond that. Honestly, that's been the case year after year.

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<v Speaker 1>Once the games start, all the off season build up

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>in drama, and they are typically a pretty interesting team

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>in the off season. You'd allow it to crescendo for

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<v Speaker 1>once because the minute the games start, forget about it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when we focus on all these great teams and

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>organizations that consistently go to the playoffs. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. There's also in many years, there would have

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 1>been a case for Cleveland to be an interesting target

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 1>because you've got this new front office is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do things in a way that no other team has

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>done it of late. You've got Hugh Jackson, who was

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<v Speaker 1>great during the Bengals are knocks like he was fantastic

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>on it could be a good personality. Jimmy haslum Isn't

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>is an owner that would be intriguing on camera. I

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think we have. We still there's a lot of

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>preconceived notions about him. You probably have Miles Garrett the

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>number one draft pick. You probably have a rookie quarterback

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>at number twelve. You'd still have basically the age old

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>storyline of the team trying to tug itself out of hell,

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>and you're throwing at Josh Gordon. Potentially. There's a lot

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>of moving parts here. And I do feel like we've

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>seen certain teams sort of over and over and this

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.320
<v Speaker 1>would be I don't know why they've never gotten on it,

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>but it would be a team unlike any other in

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>terms of now they're not the most successful, they are

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 1>the least successful. How do you rise out of the ashes?

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.879
<v Speaker 1>I like it. I think there's one one reason why

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>we haven't seen them yet is if you hire a

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 1>new coach, you can stay off the show for a

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>couple of years. And they hire coach. Literally they've been

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>doing it for like a decade, so they've kept themselves

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 1>on that list of teams that um can avoid being

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 1>on the show against their will. You could have a

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 1>little Brock situation Tony Grossy and this angry contingent of

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>beat writers. I just think there's a lot of anger

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and pope and passion all mixed up into one. I

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>think it would be and I think it would be

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>an interesting team. And looking at the list and there's

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:27.839
<v Speaker 1>only eight on an article that Dan wrote, you can

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<v Speaker 1>find who are the teams the NFL can man can

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>they can compel them to be on the show. They

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>can make them be on the show, and they would

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:37.399
<v Speaker 1>have no other choice. The Browns are one of those eight,

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 1>And looking at that list, I thought, I it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>totally shock me if they were the Hard Knocks team

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 1>this year. Mark sold wouldn't be number one on my list,

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>but it would be a fun one. I thought they

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:48.800
<v Speaker 1>would be boring, and then Mark sold me on. I

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 1>thought that was pretty compelling, especially with the number one

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>overall pick and then a rookie quarterback. Also, that could

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>be an interesting It could be the closest thing Joe

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Thomas gets to the playoffs. Oh not wrong, I will

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>amend what I said. If you hire a new coach,

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<v Speaker 1>it keeps you out of the mix for that year.

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:10.280
<v Speaker 1>So the Browns are on the list this year, and

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<v Speaker 1>the list is eight teams that that can be I

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<v Speaker 1>liked your use. They're compelled, Slash Told, Bears, Buccaneers, Brown's, Cults, Eagles, Ravens, Saints,

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:25.879
<v Speaker 1>and Titans all can be forced to be on the show. Uh.

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so the Browns that I like that choice.

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 1>I liked it the last couple of years. I liked

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>it was always interesting to me when Manzel was in

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the mix. He's obviously not there anymore. But Uh, plenty

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>of good storylines. West. Who would you want to see

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>on the show. I want to see the Patriots, the

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>defining team of the era, like the sixties Packers, the

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>seventies Steelers, the eighties forty Niners, the early nineties Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the team of the era. You know, every

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<v Speaker 1>Friday during the season, we get a glimpse of the

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:55.720
<v Speaker 1>real Belichick, not the one who's buttoned up and refuses

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to speak to the media, but Friday afternoons, he's in

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:01.359
<v Speaker 1>a good mood and he out lines what's going on

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>with the NFL that week or what's going on with

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 1>his opponent that week, and it's some of the most

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 1>fascinating football conversation going. If we could get a peek

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>at that, that would be cool. If we get a

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:14.919
<v Speaker 1>peek at how driven Tom Brady is to mow down

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>age barriers. How why do the Patriots value Jimmy Garoppolo

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.399
<v Speaker 1>so much? He's he really that Do his teammates really

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>think he's that good? I think there's all kinds of

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 1>issues and the defining team of its era, as Dan

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>has said, has now clicked in to win now mode

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 1>after they want a Super Bowl. This is this could

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 1>be the best Patriots team of the Brady Belichick era.

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that's pretty fascinating. More Patriots in your life, Danny, Well,

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna happen for the simple reason that they're

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>way too controlling of their brand, compelled by an NFL

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>that they've gone back and forth with. Couldn't the NFL

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 1>say to them, the NFL and the Patriots are not

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>on a great footing. I don't think now they're off

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 1>the list if you make the playoffs in the last

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 1>two years. But uh, well, stranger though, if you really

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>want to imagine what it would be like the Patriots

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 1>on Hard Knocks, there was that random season long documentary

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>about I believe the two thousand nine Patriots Your Job

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.439
<v Speaker 1>that was? What was it? Wasn't it do your job? Yeah?

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 1>It was. It was really on Belichick phrase, it was

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 1>unbelievably Wait, we're mixing two of them up. Actually there

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.799
<v Speaker 1>one was about the twenty nine I believe it was. Yeah,

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 1>they lost to the Ravens in the playoffs. Twenty was

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the year after Brady came back from the a c L.

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.320
<v Speaker 1>So it's two thousand nine. That was a football life

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 1>actually that they went under that band or even though

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 1>it's totally but that was if you want to know,

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 1>you'll never see them on Hard Knocks. But if you

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>want to know what it was like it was focused

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>on Belichick, but it also had a lot of moments

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 1>like Brady in Belichick's office. I don't think, especially with

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>all that's transpired uh in the last couple of years,

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Patriots would ever signed off on

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 1>NFL cameras having that type of access ever again. But

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it would even as a Patriots hater, it would be

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 1>fun to see the see behind closed doors. So I

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>get it you're carrying the water or west for your

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 1>favorite team, but I don't think it's a bad choice. Well,

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you have there, you have your jets. I

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.799
<v Speaker 1>like interesting football teams that are well run, right, it's

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:09.919
<v Speaker 1>not you. I mean, it's kind of a fake fandom.

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>It's not. It's not a fandom at all. It's just

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you're not what I like about football teams that are

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 1>good at what they do. You're a fan mercenary, that's

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 1>what you are. I mean, call it what you want.

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I just like the sport. You like a bad football team, right,

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I like the sport too, but I also have a

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 1>loyalty to a team. You jumped off of your your team,

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>and now you jump around whoever is good. Make no apologies.

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not, you know, accusing you. The Titans

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 1>weren't good, but I jumped around to them. I jumped

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 1>around to interesting teams. When you are like ninety one

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and eighties seven or whatever your age differences, you're going

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to be having the same exact conversation. No, you know,

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I because West will come back to the Bengals one day.

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 1>That's not happening one day when he's up. I think

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>when when he settles down and has a kid and

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 1>his son's like, Papa, I want to watch football with you,

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, hey, you can still watch fifty eight

0:39:55.040 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>year old Tom Brady who's still still in the Pro Bowl. Um,

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>just think about that was we stole the Pro Bowl.

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Then I'll throw one out there, Dallas Cowboys, and I'll

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 1>tell you why it's not gonna be for the reason

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you think a lot of people will be like, oh,

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, blah blah blah. You know they're They're the

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 1>America's team. No, I'm I'm digging in a little deeper

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:24.800
<v Speaker 1>than that, because I believe, in my opinion, the Cowboys

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 1>are are are you know, set for a painfully disappointing

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 1>two thousand seventeen and I want to be I want

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:33.799
<v Speaker 1>to be in on the ground floor, baby, interesting. I

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.400
<v Speaker 1>want to look into this their confidence. Can you imagine

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the confidence coming out of that building right now, the

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>self belief within that complex, and what this team will

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 1>be achieving. And I just want to give a little

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 1>history lesson for people. And I know these things are

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily you know, they don't all tie together. But

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.919
<v Speaker 1>the last five seasons, the Cowboys have had a double

0:40:55.960 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 1>digit win total two thousand three, ten and six, two

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand four, six and ten, two thousand, seven, thirteen and three,

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 1>two thousand eight, nine and seven, missed the playoffs two thousand, nine,

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 1>eleven and five, two thousand ten, six and ten, two thousand, fourteen,

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>twelve and four, two thousand, fifteen, four and twelve by

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>transitive properties, thirteen and three and two thousand six, Oh yeah, baby,

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 1>three and thirteen and two thousand seventeen. You just want

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to see it all burned down. Some people just want

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 1>to watch the world burn That's me. I want to

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 1>see it. And here's some of the other positive things

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 1>about it. Uh they I think they're gonna be in

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.720
<v Speaker 1>that practice facility, that brand new practice facility. I'm intered.

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I like seeing those things, like they have a a

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 1>practice facility that's worth more than some stadiums, and I

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>want to get it. I want to get behind the

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:48.839
<v Speaker 1>closed doors there. Jared Jones is gonna be all over

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that thing. And I like Jerry, Like some owners like

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 1>you brought up Jimmy Haslum, I would imagine he would

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>potentially stay in the shadows a little bit. A lot

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of owners aren't really out out in front for the

0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Hard Knocks season, But you know Jerry, he's a whole

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 1>different situation. Maybe we get on the Jerry bus. That's fun.

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett, he's the biggest issue here, huge dud, actually

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the biggest dud on this program since Mike Smith and

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>his Tevas Tevis. We never did figure that out. Uh,

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Like if you want to talk about like the anti

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 1>power rankings for head coaches on Hard Knocks, basically Mike

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Smith in two thousand and fourteen and um got his

0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>name Mike Joe Filman in two thousand twelve. I believe

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>what was Jeff Fisher wasn't doing too much for me

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.280
<v Speaker 1>either now, but yeah, that's true. What was Joe Philban's

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>legacy was really as the guy who cleans up after

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 1>the room when people leave it. It's like picks up

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>little pieces of paper walking around and be in the

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>wrong business picking up gum on the practice field and

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.439
<v Speaker 1>telling people to tie their shoelaces. That was the most

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 1>exciting thing about Philman on Hard Knocks anyway. So you

0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:00.040
<v Speaker 1>get the stars, you got Deaz, you got Zeke, you

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>got Dak, you got stars. You've got drama and a forebetting,

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 1>foreboding sense of general doom with the Cowboys. Well, Jerry Jones,

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, has done Our Knocks twice before, and the

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>last time they were on, you know, might be the

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.280
<v Speaker 1>reason why he would be afraid to do it, because

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>they could not be compelled, but they could raise their

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 1>hands and say, hey, we want to do it, and

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I would assume the NFL films would love that they

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:24.800
<v Speaker 1>did it. The last time. They were coming off thirteen

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and three with t O and Tony Romo and Wade

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Phillips as their coach, and I think it was the

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>single most disappointing season in the history of Hard Knocks.

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not the worst, but probably in the three or

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>four worst, but the most excitement going into Wow, this

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be great Tony Romo t o like this

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:45.720
<v Speaker 1>awesome team that just lost the heartbreaker to the Giants

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:47.440
<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs, and it was just kind of a

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>season that nothing really happened. It has potential to be

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 1>less than you'd think it would be. I feel like

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:56.439
<v Speaker 1>we've been there, done that with the Cowboys a little bit.

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>It would be you've got new players in there, it

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.359
<v Speaker 1>would be it would be intriguing to see these young

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 1>guys behind the scenes. But uh, you know, it also

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>reinforced the idea that the NFL is truly only focused

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 1>on about five or six teams. I don't know if

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys want to show behind the scenes with the

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Zekeo Elliott right, Well, that's fair. By the way, cowboys

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>were on it in two thousand two, which is ancient history,

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and it was a different show. Frankly back then, I

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>don't really count that. And then two thousand and eight,

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.840
<v Speaker 1>so as Greg alluded to, and that was, you know,

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>almost a decade ago, so it's not like it's like, oh,

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 1>we just had the Cowboys on the show. Everything is

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>different there, with the exception of the owner. At this stage, Greg, well,

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I think we we could talk a little after this

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>about teams we actually think will be on and so

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll admit that this team has no chance to be on,

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 1>but it's a team I would personally want to be

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 1>on more than any other, and that's the Pittsburgh Steelers.

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>The first thing in hard Knocks is do you have

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>a compelling head coach? There might not be a head

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 1>coach in the league i'd rather see for five weeks

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes than Mike Tomas. I just think he's

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 1>a dynamic personality. You're not sure what you're getting with them. Everyone,

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:08.359
<v Speaker 1>as everyone who's ever spoken with him is like, this

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 1>guy's a leader. This guy kind of controls the room.

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 1>He's a presence. You know. I would walk around for

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 1>everyone in there, and so does Rob Bryan. So there's that,

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and I think Mike Tomin is kind of the coach

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:26.879
<v Speaker 1>version of the Steelers. There's something mysterious about them. I mean,

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 1>they're this great organization that we hear all about. You know,

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>they're they're one of the organizations in the NFL, but

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 1>they're they're kind of private. They keep things inside, so

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of like the Patriots. That's why I would

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 1>love to see them. I think Ben Roethlisberger you know,

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 1>mixing in with his teammates. I think you got some

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>personalities there at skill position with Antonio Brown and Levan

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Bell and Martavis Bryant's return. You could have James Harrison

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 1>returning to the mix again. He's always fun on hard knocks.

0:45:57.239 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Just Bengal season, a bit of a little bit of

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the Rooney's um, you know some of the now you're

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:07.319
<v Speaker 1>selling me. I'm serious though, if you love if you

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:09.760
<v Speaker 1>love football, this is one of the most important families,

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and I think they would dive into, you know, the

0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:13.440
<v Speaker 1>history of this. Just I don't think they'd ever do

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>it because they're so traditional. They like to run a

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 1>tough training camp too, that has gotten under the radar

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 1>of the NFL. So maybe they don't want cameras in

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 1>there they and yeah, they have a beautiful location, uh,

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:26.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, traditional location for their train It would be

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:28.640
<v Speaker 1>it would be delightful as a football fan. I don't

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 1>think it will ever happen all right now. Of the

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:35.839
<v Speaker 1>so there are four choices, personal choices, uh. And then

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:40.840
<v Speaker 1>of the eight teams that can be chosen, what do

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you guys, who you think is most likely Let's say,

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 1>let's work off the premise that it will be one

0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:46.799
<v Speaker 1>of those teams, which is not necessarily how will play out,

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 1>but Bears, Bucks, Brown's, Cults, Eagles, Ravens, Saints and Titans. Great.

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:54.399
<v Speaker 1>You said something interesting downstairs that I kind of buy

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 1>into a little bit about the team you think could happen. Well,

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought the Saints were a logical choice. They've never

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.359
<v Speaker 1>it's never happened before. Or you just got the New

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Orleans element. You know they have training camp down there,

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:08.319
<v Speaker 1>You've got people that fans know it's the end of

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the Sean Payton era. You know, perhaps Drew Brees is there.

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 1>You maybe wouldn't have ownership getting in the way with

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Tom Benson. I think that would be a compelling choice.

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't deal with that much Sean Payton in my life.

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I just can't. They could be like a team people

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:26.720
<v Speaker 1>love to hate a little bit too. Watch cannot watch

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton just lie all through every episode. He also,

0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, Sean Payton coming off like fourteen straight, seven

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:36.240
<v Speaker 1>and nine is the most underrated subplot in the NFL

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.400
<v Speaker 1>right now. You know, he knows his number could be

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>up soon, and if he continues to struggle in New Orleans,

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 1>this could be like a good way to get his

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 1>brand out there. Hey look how cool I am, and

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:48.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm the guy you want leading the operation. He's He's

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<v Speaker 1>publicly spoken against Hard Knocks a few times and even

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<v Speaker 1>said he would never allow cameras to show release of

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<v Speaker 1>a player. He thinks that's inhumane. Um, but he did

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<v Speaker 1>say last year, and I don't know if this was

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<v Speaker 1>in response to a Pro Football Talk article where the

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<v Speaker 1>Saints were bracing to be chosen as last year's and

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton did said, you know, say, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>if we got picked, I'll be I'll be the smiling,

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.680
<v Speaker 1>good guy. You know, he'll take it. So who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody else? Want to throw out who you think of

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<v Speaker 1>that group? I could see the Saints. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans are Maybe the Titans are intriguing, although head coach

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<v Speaker 1>scenario there, head coach, if the if you pick up

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<v Speaker 1>the slack another area, could they could the Eagles be

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<v Speaker 1>a team? I think they would be intriguing and they

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<v Speaker 1>might say yes, Bucks not terrible. James Winston has charisma.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Bucks are connected with everything right now,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a free agent, destination's trade possibilities, hard knocks

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<v Speaker 1>choices all right, finally, Mark you uh, I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>you one last chance. You are as everyone knows a

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<v Speaker 1>Browns fan? What what what do you have to say

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<v Speaker 1>in the closing thoughts? Well, I just I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>say there are a couple of teams that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think should be featured on hard Knocks. I have a couple.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a no list, a soft note, but but

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<v Speaker 1>also I mean it right. Dolphins, Bills, Steelers, Ravens, Chargers, Broncos,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Seattle Seahawks. The next list is definitely not.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely it's the worst list to be These are the

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<v Speaker 1>teams I don't want on it. This is the definitely

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<v Speaker 1>not list. The Bengals, the Patriots, the Raiders, the Titans,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cults, the Giants, the Redskins, the Cowboys, the Panthers,

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<v Speaker 1>the Lions, the Vikings, the Bucks, the Falcons, and the Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>And the final tiers go after yourself. That's even worse

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<v Speaker 1>than definitely you're not getting on the show. Saints, Jets, Chiefs, Jaguars, Eagles, Packers, Bears, Niners, Cardinals,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course the Rams. Okay, so who does that leave? Leaves?

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<v Speaker 1>The Browns get it right this time My list is

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<v Speaker 1>both New York teams. They're already They're already as overexposed

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<v Speaker 1>as you could possibly get by every media member in

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<v Speaker 1>this country. Lest this was a little unecessary, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we knew that already. Yeah, don't know, Jets are giants? Please, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you need to worry about the Jets. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have to worry about the Giants either.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be okay, Chris, you'll get through this. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>even watch a show, do you. If it's a good season,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll watch it, Okay, all right, So I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>have someone on the phone, but we're we're running a

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<v Speaker 1>little short on time. We have to do an NFL

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<v Speaker 1>network kid, we got a meeting with some shadowy league figures,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're just we're gonna bump this guy, uh like

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Damon on the Jimmy Kimmel Show, and maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we can make something also not like Matt Damon at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think long time listeners of the podcast could guess

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:43.640
<v Speaker 1>who this looks like. A tall gonna say, bears more

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<v Speaker 1>than a passing resemblance to Hollywood superstar Matt Damon. On.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything like a six ft six version of Yeah, not

0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 1>a bad looking dude. Anyway, he's bumped. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>good news, bad news. Good news is you've been compared

0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:02.320
<v Speaker 1>to a major league hunk. Bad news. Once again, another

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>opportunity goes by the boards to get back on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe next week or excuse me, maybe next show, or

0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:11.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe next week or maybe next year. But we gotta go.

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 1>We gotta start preparing for other aspects. A lot of

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:17.600
<v Speaker 1>people think this is the only thing we do in

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:21.840
<v Speaker 1>NFL media. This is only that's some streets talking about

0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 1>our roles got you. You'd be surprised to us how

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 1>many how like how many people don't realize how much

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:29.880
<v Speaker 1>writing we do that are huge fans of the pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out what our stuff at NFL dot com, slash news.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ironic because you know, the listeners think this is

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:38.879
<v Speaker 1>the only part of our job, whereas our bosses don't

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:41.280
<v Speaker 1>even count it as part of our It's very it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a horrible tug of war. Speaking of the listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to all the people. When Mark tweeted out

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<v Speaker 1>a photo with John Gonzalez and it who tweeted that

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<v Speaker 1>they needed Greg Rosental to explain who the fourth person

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<v Speaker 1>was in the picture. All right, let's go. Got work

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<v Speaker 1>to do, got other things to do. Stan had the

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<v Speaker 1>signing off for a quiet storm, the mailman, the boss,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll see it behind the glass. See you Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not happy. Do dote