Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always
Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Weston Hodquitz, and he's right here
Speaker 1: in the studio.
Speaker 2: Hi, Wes, Hey Michael.
Speaker 1: It's been a while.
Speaker 2: It's been a minute since we've been in this setup.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what kind of like hopping on
Speaker 2: a bike going back to your grandparents hose, you just
Speaker 2: feel right back at home. That's happy to be back
Speaker 2: in the study, always right.
Speaker 1: It's like we never left in some ways. But we
Speaker 1: do have a lot to talk about on this show.
Speaker 1: First and foremost the fifty three man roster for the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, which is still undergoing some adjustments here
Speaker 1: and there. But the biggest thing that stands out about
Speaker 1: this Packers roster heading into the twenty twenty three season
Speaker 1: west is it is awfully young.
Speaker 2: It is now we won't be able to get the
Speaker 2: actual NFL superlatives on where the Packers rank and how
Speaker 2: they do all that kind of data management will pump
Speaker 2: that out after week one, but at this point in time,
Speaker 2: I know Jason Wilde was crunching some of the numbers
Speaker 2: some other people on Twitter were doing it and average
Speaker 2: aged right around twenty five for green Bay, which is
Speaker 2: incredibly low compared to obviously the most recent years. But
Speaker 2: then when you look at the NFL and the way
Speaker 2: things are structured, usually it's more in that twenty six
Speaker 2: to twenty seven range. But the green Bay Packers right
Speaker 2: now with only one player I think over thirty, and
Speaker 2: that's David Baktiari after the decision to let go of
Speaker 2: pad O'Donnell's, So it gives you an idea of where
Speaker 2: they're heading. One of the things I really did enjoy, Mike.
Speaker 2: We're gonna touch on a lot of topics here, but
Speaker 2: Brian Gudocun's press conference one of the first things we
Speaker 2: heard after the final cuts were announced him mentioning, yes,
Speaker 2: we are young, but the expectations don't change. The green
Speaker 2: Bay Packers still have very high expectations for this season.
Speaker 2: It just so happens that it's going to be with
Speaker 2: a roster that is a little bit younger than the norm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Gudakun's talked about how and he's mentioned this
Speaker 1: many times before that this roster is built with a
Speaker 1: lot of young players that he's expecting are going to
Speaker 1: grow together and mature together and whatnot. But that is
Speaker 1: it's not as though everybody's just supposed to wait for
Speaker 1: an entire season to be in the books before that happens.
Speaker 1: Seventeen games is a long time. It's a long season.
Speaker 1: This team is expected to look and play much differently
Speaker 1: in November and December, when all these young players have
Speaker 1: you know, eight, nine, ten games under their belts than
Speaker 1: perhaps they do in the beginning. And this is going
Speaker 1: to be, I think, more so than any other that
Speaker 1: we've seen in Green Bay in our time here, a
Speaker 1: season of evolution with regard to what this team is
Speaker 1: going to look like and how it's going to play,
Speaker 1: and how the coaching staff is going to figure out,
Speaker 1: most specifically on the offensive side of the ball, what
Speaker 1: this team does best and what it can hang its
Speaker 1: hat on, because I you know, and we'll see the
Speaker 1: roster change throughout the course of the season, it always does,
Speaker 1: but in terms of the actual play on the field,
Speaker 1: we may be looking at a very different team in
Speaker 1: the second half of the season than the one in
Speaker 1: the first half of the season as everybody figures things out.
Speaker 2: More so than any other year I've covered Now you
Speaker 2: were here during some of the very early years of
Speaker 2: the Mike McCarthy era, those teams also trended very young
Speaker 2: as well. But to me, I look at it as
Speaker 2: also a huge opportunity because more than any other year,
Speaker 2: I think where I cut, whether it was covering final
Speaker 2: cuts and the roster construction of the practice squad, there's
Speaker 2: so much young talent at all these positions. Right when
Speaker 2: you look at receiver, how deep Green Bay goes with
Speaker 2: a guy like Malik Heath making this roster Grant du
Speaker 2: Bose comes back on the practice squad. But then you
Speaker 2: also have you know, Jaden Reid coming in and as
Speaker 2: you know, Brian goodkinsin and said looking a lot more
Speaker 2: polished than I think a lot of people thought he
Speaker 2: was going to as a rookie second round pick. The
Speaker 2: tight end situation with Luke Musgrave and Tucker Kraft, you know, defensively,
Speaker 2: this plethora of defensive linemen that are going to be
Speaker 2: stepping in with Kenny Clark into this starting lineup. I
Speaker 2: think that is where the Packers really can separate themselves
Speaker 2: this year. Because I give Matt Leafluor a lot of credit.
Speaker 2: I give Mike McCarthy a lot of credit. Their teams
Speaker 2: did typically get better throughout the course of the year.
Speaker 2: They always seem to play their best ball in December's
Speaker 2: the reason why Matt Lafluur's record is what it is
Speaker 2: during the final month of the season. But that being said,
Speaker 2: the ceiling, the upside, the limitless potential of this group,
Speaker 2: I think is going to be what you are going
Speaker 2: to make the biggest difference. I made a joke, not
Speaker 2: a joke, it was serious, but kind of a funny
Speaker 2: equip if you will, an insider inbox about people asking
Speaker 2: about the opener against Chicago and the importance of it.
Speaker 2: It's huge, It's a really important game, but it pales
Speaker 2: into comparison to what the Week eighteen game against the
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, Yeah, should be and what the Packers want
Speaker 2: that game to be. And I think throughout the course
Speaker 2: this year, you're gonna see this team take its lumps
Speaker 2: at times, but I think you're gonna see tremendous growth
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And for all the anticipation and excitement about Week
Speaker 1: one against the Chicago Bears at Soldier Field, it just
Speaker 1: feels like win or lose, whatever the score is. There's
Speaker 1: there's almost nothing about that game that's going to define
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three Packers in Week one never really
Speaker 1: defines any team, but even more so this year, it
Speaker 1: seems that it's that's going to be this team just
Speaker 1: getting out of the starting blocks, and but you don't
Speaker 1: know what. You don't know what the rest of that
Speaker 1: race is going to look like. Well, one of the
Speaker 1: reasons that this team is as young as it is
Speaker 1: statistically is because not one, not two, but three undrafted
Speaker 1: rookies made this fifty three man roster. You wrote about
Speaker 1: them on our website. There's a story on packers dot
Speaker 1: com to check out. And of course I'm talking about
Speaker 1: receiver Malik Heath. You already mentioned running back Emmanuel Wilson,
Speaker 1: who won the number three running back job, and then
Speaker 1: outside linebacker Brenton Cox Junior. It keeps a street going
Speaker 1: now of nineteen years in which the Packers will have
Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie on their Week one roster. But more
Speaker 1: so than just the streak, three guys in a year
Speaker 1: in which the Packers had thirteen draft picks, you know,
Speaker 1: three undrafted guys ended up busting through and making the
Speaker 1: fifty three. It's a credit to them. Also a credit
Speaker 1: to the scouting department that, you know, the building of
Speaker 1: the team, the building the acquisition of new players doesn't
Speaker 1: end when the draft ends. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that are brought in here to get a look,
Speaker 1: and the ones that take advantage of that opportunity sometimes
Speaker 1: they stick around well.
Speaker 2: And it's funny to me because college free agency it's
Speaker 2: such a free for all, right. I mean, now, certainly
Speaker 2: you build some relationships, you make some phone calls, but
Speaker 2: it literally is just teams being able to just grab
Speaker 2: whatever players they can get. Afterwards, I mean, it's like
Speaker 2: a you know, it's like college recruiting on like just
Speaker 2: a complete tripe where it's like you're just trying to
Speaker 2: get as many people as possible. But I think Brian
Speaker 2: Goodokunz and his scouts, in my opinion, this was the
Speaker 2: strongest UFA class they've had so far, because I think
Speaker 2: there's guys on this practice squad too that can play
Speaker 2: in this league. It's just the way that numbers work out.
Speaker 2: But those three guys I think all stood out for
Speaker 2: very different reasons. When you look at Malik Heath, I
Speaker 2: think there are a lot of parallels there with him
Speaker 2: and Romeo Dobbs. This is a guy that won. Did
Speaker 2: not look like an undrafted free agent. But at times,
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, Mike, there was times in
Speaker 2: the ots I'm like, is this guy even a rookie?
Speaker 2: I mean, he just he was wise beyond his years.
Speaker 2: And you know, and as you know Brian Goodekin said
Speaker 2: when he addressed the media on Wednesday, this is a
Speaker 2: guy that had some stuff happened in college, you would
Speaker 2: have probably gotten drafted had it not been for that.
Speaker 2: But he you know, the Packers, they do their background checks.
Speaker 2: They feel good about these players, the same thing with
Speaker 2: Brenton Cox junior, and they bring them in and give
Speaker 2: an opportunity in a clean slate. I thought Heath completely maximized.
Speaker 2: That led the Packers in receiving twelve catches for one
Speaker 2: hundred and forty six yards in the preseason. He was
Speaker 2: able to be a starter with the offense. With Romeo
Speaker 2: Dobbs dealing with a hamstring in the preseason finale, kind
Speaker 2: of a precautionary thing, but the Packers wanted to, you know,
Speaker 2: give Heath that opportunity, and you know, made a big
Speaker 2: catch on the fifteen play eight r drive everything you
Speaker 2: wanted to see from Heath in this gate, in this preseason,
Speaker 2: you saw it, whether it was the hast catching or
Speaker 2: even him blocking a guy into a field goal net
Speaker 2: on the sidelines. And then quickly just to touch on
Speaker 2: with Emmanuel Wilson. Here's a guy that spent three days
Speaker 2: in Denver after the draft, got cut, ends up in
Speaker 2: Green Bay. He had taken a top thirty visit here.
Speaker 2: There was interest from Green Bay. But is looking at
Speaker 2: a pretty tall depth chart where you have Patrick Taylor
Speaker 2: coming back special teamer, fourth year veteran, You had Tyler
Speaker 2: Goodson looking really good after working out this offseason with
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones, and then Lou Nichols who was the seventh
Speaker 2: round pick out of Central Michigan as a rookie. Injuries happened,
Speaker 2: Wilson gets his opportunity, and as I wrote in art
Speaker 2: that story, he just made himself undeniable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's funny. I admit I was steered wrong
Speaker 1: in some respects on the number three running back competition
Speaker 1: because when Wilson's star was starting to rise, we heard
Speaker 1: from Matt Lafleur. I believe it was after the New
Speaker 1: England preseason game, and he was talking about, well, he's
Speaker 1: got a long ways to go and pass protection. He
Speaker 1: hasn't done too much on special teams. We really need
Speaker 1: him to work on his conditioning, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: to be able to carry the ball fifteen sixteen times
Speaker 1: in a game. I thought, Okay, they're just you know,
Speaker 1: they're downplaying this and they're going to try to slip
Speaker 1: him through to the practice squad. This is not a
Speaker 1: guy who's going to make the roster and lo and behold.
Speaker 1: When push came to shove and the decision had to
Speaker 1: be made, they're like, no, this is this is our
Speaker 1: number three running back. This is the guy that we
Speaker 1: want on the fifty three. I think with Breton Cox,
Speaker 1: it's a very interesting case. As as most folks know,
Speaker 1: he had some off the field issues. He was dismissed
Speaker 1: from two programs in the Southeastern Conference. Packers give him
Speaker 1: a chance as an undrafted guy. They say, Hey, same
Speaker 1: thing with Malie Heath. In a lot of ways, it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's a clean slate here, you get to start over,
Speaker 1: so make the most of it. And he does. And
Speaker 1: what you have now for the Packers that outside linebacker,
Speaker 1: you've got Preston Smith, and Rashaun Gary right behind them.
Speaker 1: You have a first round draft pick in Lucas Fans,
Speaker 1: a second year guy in kings Leannigbari who showed some
Speaker 1: real potential as a rookie. You got Justin Hollins, a
Speaker 1: veteran who came in last year, played a half a
Speaker 1: dozen games and made an impact in Joe Berry's defense.
Speaker 1: And then you're adding Breton Cox as a sixth guy
Speaker 1: to that group. It's almost like adding another draft pick
Speaker 1: because from a talent perspective, Breton Cox would have been
Speaker 1: drafted and who knows maybe, I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to make a prediction necessarily, but probably anywhere
Speaker 1: from like the third to the fifth round maybe is
Speaker 1: where his talents all without anything else, you know, in
Speaker 1: the equation. So it's as though the Packers took the
Speaker 1: outside linebacker group they ended last season with. You're bringing
Speaker 1: back with Shaan Gary, and you added two draft picks
Speaker 1: in Lucas Fanis and Breton Cox Junior. This group as
Speaker 1: far as the edge rusher group to get after quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: this is as deep as Matt Lafleur has had since
Speaker 1: he's been here. I think that's going to be a
Speaker 1: boom for Joe Barry as he devises what to do defensive.
Speaker 2: And I think that's the most impressive thing, Mike, is
Speaker 2: you look at running backs, outside linebackers, and receivers. Those
Speaker 2: are three of the deepest positions the Packers had in
Speaker 2: their roster, and these guys it isn't like they just Okay,
Speaker 2: we needed a fourth guy to fill at a depth chart.
Speaker 2: All these guys competed to earn those spots and now
Speaker 2: the possibilities of this group. I look at that defensive
Speaker 2: front too, Mike. The ways you can mix and match
Speaker 2: guys were Shaun Gary it sounds like he's gonna be
Speaker 2: on a pitch count earlier this season. According to Matt
Speaker 2: lafleor a is they try to work him back, but
Speaker 2: you got a guy like kings Leyanningbari to eat some
Speaker 2: of those snaps you have justin Hollins. You're bringing along
Speaker 2: two rookies along with them. It's an intriguing, intriguing group,
Speaker 2: and I think that's again getting back to that upside
Speaker 2: and this sky's a limit for this group. That is
Speaker 2: going to be what carries them, I think throughout the
Speaker 2: course of this season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get to some other thoughts on
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Speaker 1: fifty years of better, all right. A couple other thoughts
Speaker 1: with regard to the roster. One is that we we
Speaker 1: saw with the decisions with this fifty three how much
Speaker 1: the not just the size of the practice squad being
Speaker 1: sixteen players now over the last couple of years, but
Speaker 1: the flexibility that the league allows with regard to game
Speaker 1: day elevations. Now there are limitations on certain you know players.
Speaker 1: Once you elevate a guy three times, then you have
Speaker 1: to make a more definitive decision on his roster status.
Speaker 1: But that kind of flexibility, being able to elevate players
Speaker 1: from the practice squad to the active roster for game day,
Speaker 1: I think is why the Packers were able to to
Speaker 1: send in their fifty three with only four cornerbacks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, because in this in this day and age,
Speaker 1: I've got four cornerbacks on the field in a game
Speaker 1: like quite a bit. I mean, you need to have
Speaker 1: more than that. But do you need to have more
Speaker 1: than that on your fifty three? Not necessarily because of
Speaker 1: the practice squad game day elevations. The other thing that
Speaker 1: stood out to me, and you touched on a little
Speaker 1: bit with the defensive line, but also just the number
Speaker 1: of big guys that the Packers kept ended up being
Speaker 1: eleven offensive linemen, although the expectation is that Luke Tannuda
Speaker 1: will most likely be moved to injured reserve and it
Speaker 1: will be down to ten on the active roster, but
Speaker 1: even that says something because they wanted to carry Luke
Speaker 1: Tanuda through to the fifty three because he's a big
Speaker 1: guy that they believe can play in this league. And
Speaker 1: just because he got hurt, they didn't want to They
Speaker 1: didn't want to lose him and let him go. We
Speaker 1: had talked all off season about how deep this offensive
Speaker 1: line was, how many guys the Packers were bringing back
Speaker 1: who were either on the active roster or the practice
Speaker 1: squad from last year. And this is a group. This
Speaker 1: offensive line, I think is really the group that forms
Speaker 1: the foundation of this team, particularly on offense, when everybody else,
Speaker 1: you know, the wide receivers, the titands, and the quarterback
Speaker 1: are also young and inexperienced.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the Packers have some real skyscrapers, you know,
Speaker 2: at the tackle position. I always say that same story.
Speaker 2: When yosh Nyman got here in nineteen, I'm like, Wow,
Speaker 2: that is a really big tackle, and then Caleb Jones
Speaker 2: got here last year and I'm like, he's bigger than you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: bigger Luke Tanuda, I mean, you know, Tanuda and Yash
Speaker 2: actually played together at Virginia Tech. And it's like, these
Speaker 2: are just monstrous, you know types of tackles, and the
Speaker 2: Packers want to see what's there, they want to try
Speaker 2: to develop it. It is funny to me that it's
Speaker 2: that they have all these tackles and then you got
Speaker 2: a guy like Zach Tom who's not the biggest offensive
Speaker 2: line in the world, and he ends up, you know,
Speaker 2: basically winning that right tackle job, finesse, footwork, technique, intelligence,
Speaker 2: and is probably going to be the backup at potentially
Speaker 2: every spot now on the Packers' offensive line, depending on
Speaker 2: if injury should happen. I really like the way that
Speaker 2: the offensive line competent played out in camp because I
Speaker 2: thought you saw strides from a lot of those draft
Speaker 2: picks the Packers had last year. Rashid Walker might have
Speaker 2: been the most improved player in camp from where he
Speaker 2: was at pound for pound to where he got to
Speaker 2: this year blocking for Jordan Love and the two preseason
Speaker 2: finales on the left tackle side. You know, Sean Ryan,
Speaker 2: I thought put a better effort forward this year. He
Speaker 2: talked about cleaning up his diet, getting better sleep, just
Speaker 2: being smarter about how he handled everything. I think that's
Speaker 2: very important right now in trying to see exactly where
Speaker 2: that could all potentially fit. Lastly, just to quickly touch
Speaker 2: on this, two preseason games might the last two preseason
Speaker 2: games no quarterback hits allowed. It's preseason, I get it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But the fact that that group went that deep, everybody
Speaker 2: earned their spot there, as much as that probably caught
Speaker 2: some people by surprise. With eleven offensive linemen, I thought
Speaker 2: that group, by and large, you know, they earn their
Speaker 2: keyp Yeah.
Speaker 1: And when we I mean we've seen it before. When
Speaker 1: you don't have that kind of depth on the offensive line.
Speaker 1: You get into the twos and the threes in the
Speaker 1: preseason games, and the offense just becomes a mess and
Speaker 1: it can't even function because you just you don't have
Speaker 1: enough enough continuity and enough execution up front to be
Speaker 1: able to make anything work and to be able to
Speaker 1: get a look at these other players and you know,
Speaker 1: see what they can do. Packers didn't have that problem
Speaker 1: in this preseason because because the offensive lines through the
Speaker 1: multiple units held up and allowed the offense to function.
Speaker 1: And we saw, we saw what Sean Clifford to do.
Speaker 1: We saw what Alex Magoo did on the final You
Speaker 1: know that that what turned out to be the game
Speaker 1: winning drive against Seattle in the finale. The guys up
Speaker 1: front in on this Packers roster, as you said, they
Speaker 1: got the job done there in their spots.
Speaker 2: And they gave a guy like Emmanuel Wilson the opportunity
Speaker 2: to end up leading the NFL in preseason rushing yards. Mike,
Speaker 2: you and I have covered a lot of preseason football,
Speaker 2: not just talking about the Green Bay Packers, just NFL
Speaker 2: in general, seeing different teams come in a guy having
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty three rushing yards in the preseason
Speaker 2: does not happen a lot, especially on thirty eight carries
Speaker 2: or whatever it was that he ended up having, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, well, and then only three preseason games as opposed
Speaker 1: to four the way it used.
Speaker 2: To be exactly. I mean, I was so impressed by
Speaker 2: the young man. But it's also the partnership, the synergy
Speaker 2: that goes with the offensive line. Again is a very
Speaker 2: impressive preseason. And now the Packers hope that being able
Speaker 2: to plant all these you know, pieces for this offense,
Speaker 2: defense and special teams that that can ultimately be what
Speaker 2: you know, is going to be the thing that kind
Speaker 2: of catapults him into the season, the season of transition
Speaker 2: here at Jordan Love at quarterback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one last thing I want to touch on. I
Speaker 1: guess we'll call it a tease because I'm going to
Speaker 1: be writing a story on this very shortly on Packers
Speaker 1: dot com. So when you have a chance, look for it.
Speaker 1: Not sure exactly when it's going to get posted. We
Speaker 1: talked on our last show about the decision at punter.
Speaker 1: Because pad O'Donnell had already been released, the Packers had
Speaker 1: decided that Daniel Wheelan would be their punter and his story,
Speaker 1: his story is something else, Wes. I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: just that he you know, was born in Ireland. He
Speaker 1: moved to the United States when he was thirteen years old.
Speaker 1: He first played football as a seventeen year old high
Speaker 1: school junior. Was just talked into it by the coach
Speaker 1: to come out to be the kicker and punter, be
Speaker 1: the specialist on the team. Goes to a small college
Speaker 1: in California, gets a chance with the Saints as a
Speaker 1: as a as an undrafted rookie. It doesn't doesn't work
Speaker 1: out there, He's released, and then you know, he goes
Speaker 1: to the XFL and then ends up coming to Green Bay.
Speaker 1: But there's so there's there's so much else that's in
Speaker 1: between there, including from the time that he was released
Speaker 1: by the Saints until he stepped onto the field in
Speaker 1: the XFL, he was folding towels for eight hours a
Speaker 1: day in a hotel spa, like that was his job
Speaker 1: out in California, just trying to figure out, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's next, Like what am I going to do? Then
Speaker 1: the XFL comes along, and then not only does he
Speaker 1: get a shot with the Packers, but he's got to
Speaker 1: beat out a ten year veteran, a guy who has
Speaker 1: absolutely been there, done that. The you know, the holding
Speaker 1: for field goals, the cold weather, you know, all of it.
Speaker 1: And he he gave a big thanks to Pad O'Donnell
Speaker 1: for not only the way O'Donnell handled the situation, but
Speaker 1: the way he helped him, particularly with regard to holding
Speaker 1: on field goals. He said, he said, just watching it
Speaker 1: wasn't even so much what O'Donnell said, but just watching
Speaker 1: the way he did things, the way he went through
Speaker 1: the drills and all that, he learned a lot himself,
Speaker 1: and so much so that he tried to He said,
Speaker 1: he tried to do between two hundred and fifty and
Speaker 1: three hundred holds per day while he was here in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. And whether that was Matt Orzik or brought
Speaker 1: a hatcher, the two long snappers the Packers had on
Speaker 1: the offseason roster snapping to him. Sometimes it was the
Speaker 1: special teams coaches would you know, would would fire simulated
Speaker 1: snaps back through the holding. And when he was back
Speaker 1: home in California with his mother between mandatory mini camp
Speaker 1: and the start of training camp, she was lobbing snaps
Speaker 1: to him in the kitchen and he and he was
Speaker 1: working practicing, doing the holding on the on the linoleum
Speaker 1: floor in the kitchen, and he said, yeah, my mom's
Speaker 1: my mom's simulated snaps weren't the best, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a bad ball drill you gotta
Speaker 1: work on. I had a workout of touch and the
Speaker 1: bad ones too, So it was really fun, really fun
Speaker 1: to talk to him. And uh, and I'll be putting
Speaker 1: putting that story together soon, but but a heck of
Speaker 1: a story. And he's going to be the first Irish
Speaker 1: born player in how many years?
Speaker 2: A thirty eight years? Nineteen eighty five Neil mcdona Hughes
Speaker 2: last year in the NFL at the Saint Louis Cardinals,
Speaker 2: last time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he actually somebody had somebody had tweeted something
Speaker 1: that O'donahue had said, I think in a media interview
Speaker 1: or something, and then tweeted it at Wheelan because of
Speaker 1: Donahue like wished him well and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So he hasn't like directly connected with him, but through
Speaker 1: social media and whatnot, he's gotten a message from him.
Speaker 1: So a fun story. And uh, and the Packers are
Speaker 1: as young as you get at both kicker and punter.
Speaker 1: Now heading into twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody asked an inbox, I did my best to
Speaker 2: figure this out. Maybe's cliff for you will do a
Speaker 2: better job of meet. It seemed like the first time
Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty three since the Packers have not had
Speaker 2: a guy that has actually played in the NFL on
Speaker 2: their roster. But even then that comes with the asterisk
Speaker 2: because Johan Stenerud was still here there with Eddie Garcia,
Speaker 2: so it's gonna be unprecedently young at that spot. But
Speaker 2: I mean Daniel Wheeland, man, the one thing you and
Speaker 2: I saw from the beginning of OTAs on the kid
Speaker 2: has a huge, huge foot. Yeah, he boomed some complete
Speaker 2: moonballs throughout the this camp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be exciting to
Speaker 1: watch his career grow and develop as well. But with
Speaker 1: that we will call it a rap on this edition
Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our
Speaker 1: coverage of the team on Packers dot com for Wes
Speaker 1: I and Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. We
Speaker 1: will see you next time.