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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour Clay and Buck kicks off right now, and

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Speaker 2: we're talking about platform wars, if you will. TikTok looks

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Speaker 2: like it may very well the forced under law to

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Speaker 2: divest from China, and this is waiting this We're waiting

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Speaker 2: to see what the Senate does with this. It passed

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Speaker 2: the House by wide margin, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: back and forth over this one. I wonder how much

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Speaker 2: these individuals. It wasn't long ago was a well known

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Speaker 2: joke that the people trying to regulate Facebook, say under

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Speaker 2: section two thirty, not to be confused with Section two forty,

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Speaker 2: which whatever that is. Section two thirty, barely know how

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Speaker 2: to use Facebook. But they're the ones that are regulating

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Speaker 2: Facebook in the Congress. I doubt that the second order

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Speaker 2: effects of a forced divestiture of Kicktok will be known

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Speaker 2: to the people passing this legislation, assuming it goes through.

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Speaker 2: But we'll continue to follow this, and we made our

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Speaker 2: case yesterday that there are some things to be concerned

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Speaker 2: about here.

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Speaker 3: One.

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Speaker 1: I think US based social media companies are worse for

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Speaker 1: your freedoms and liberty.

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Speaker 2: Than anything that could find it way to China. Also,

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Speaker 2: I'm uncomfortable with the government deciding this company is just

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Speaker 2: bad because of foreign ties if it's not a specifically

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Speaker 2: national security as in like making missiles or something. And

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Speaker 2: then you have how this could be abused on the line.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things here. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of things here to keep in mind. But X, as

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Speaker 2: we know, formerly Twitter, now it is called X by

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk, the owner is ostensibly devoted to free speech principles.

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Speaker 2: There are a couple of shows that are distributed via X.

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Speaker 2: They're not owned by X, but they're distributed by X,

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Speaker 2: most notably our friend Tucker Carlson has one, and also

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Speaker 2: and his Quomo interview. Did we play some of the

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Speaker 2: Quomo interviewed or not? I don't think we've played it yet,

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Speaker 2: have we? No, we didn't play any We should play

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Speaker 2: some Cuomo clips. We had those from the Tucker interview.

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Speaker 2: Some of them are we play?

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Speaker 4: We played him saying that he couldn't beat up a

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Speaker 4: that that he didn't we play like that? Yeah, distracted

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Speaker 4: waited or if we talked about playing it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: There was a funny exchange where Chris Cuomo was asking Tucker,

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Speaker 2: why did you make fun of me for lifting weights

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Speaker 2: so much? If I was there, I would have said, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't making fun of you for lifting weights. It

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Speaker 2: was making fun of you for constantly taking video of

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Speaker 2: yourself lifting weights and sharing them publicly as a fifty

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Speaker 2: five year old man who does not work in the

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Speaker 2: fitness industry. You know, that would have been the way

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Speaker 2: that I would have gone with it. But anyway, Englan

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Speaker 2: sat down with not Tucker that he's done that before,

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Speaker 2: that would be interesting again. But with Don Lemon, as

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Speaker 2: Tucker used to call him Don Lemon, formerly of CNN,

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Speaker 2: and he had been a problem there for some time. Clay,

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Speaker 2: I think what really got him finally pushed out was

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Speaker 2: his women are in their prime in their twenties and

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Speaker 2: was I was like, oh, oh, Don, Well.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't just that he gave that opinion Buck, It

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Speaker 4: was that when pressed he said google it like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm a you know, I'm done my research, and I

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Speaker 4: mean to be so dumb. Maybe this is just a

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Speaker 4: gay guy like I, you know, I think he gets

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Speaker 4: a pass on a lot of stuff because he's black

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Speaker 4: and gay and that gives him two protected class aspects.

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Speaker 4: At CNN, they still fired him. But to do your

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Speaker 4: research for a segment, to sit down in front of

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Speaker 4: Google and type in when are women in their prime?

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Speaker 4: And then on Google and then do a search and

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Speaker 4: then anybody who questioned your opinion just be like Google.

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Speaker 4: It is is next maybe the dumbest, most ridiculous thing

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Speaker 4: that anyone has said on CNN. But I think they

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Speaker 4: canceled the Morning Show too, by the way, and there's

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Speaker 4: been a lot of ridiculous things, but for a host

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Speaker 2: Show Elon sat down with Don Lemon at his request

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Speaker 2: and here is how so this has cut seven how

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Speaker 2: some of the exchange it devolved, It got a little

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Speaker 2: testing play it.

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Speaker 1: Hate speech on the platform is up.

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Speaker 5: Do you believe that X and you have some responsibility

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Speaker 5: to moderate hate speech on the platform that you wouldn't

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Speaker 5: have to answer these questions from reporters about the Great

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Speaker 5: Replacement theory as a release, I don't have to answer

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Speaker 5: Great Replacement theory as it relates to Jewish people. Do

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Speaker 5: you think that I don't have to answer questions from

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Speaker 5: the quarters Don the only reason I've been this interview

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Speaker 5: is because you're on the X platform.

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Speaker 1: How you asked for it. Otherwise there would not to

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Speaker 5: So you don't think do you think that you wouldn't

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Speaker 5: get in trouble or you wouldn't be criticized for these things?

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Speaker 1: Possibly I could care less.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is the same guy we're

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Speaker 2: talking about the last hour, whose company that he built

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Speaker 2: that could change the future of humanity. He's sitting down

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Speaker 2: with Don Lemon, who Trump memorably on Twitter for now

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Speaker 2: X formly Twitter said was the quote dumbest man on television?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember that tweet?

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Speaker 2: Clay, Oh yeah, Don Lemon, the dumbest man on television

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Speaker 2: sits down with Elon Musk and immediately launches into.

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Speaker 1: But what about hate speech?

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Speaker 2: I think increasingly the answer to this has to be

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Speaker 2: I appreciate Elon's just like, shut up, leave me alone,

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Speaker 2: Like you asked me to sit here and now you're

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Speaker 2: annoying me. I get that, But also I think you

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Speaker 2: have to say, no, we actually can't moderate hate speech

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Speaker 2: because the left has made it so that hate speech

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Speaker 2: is everything that they don't like, and we know they've

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Speaker 2: they've abused this beyond any reason or rationale. So no, actually,

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Speaker 2: we're just going to allow people. If you don't break

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Speaker 2: the law, you're allowed to use the platform. Also, this

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Speaker 4: CNN put back on Lemon after firing him and ran

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Speaker 4: a bunch of clips from his interview with Elon Musk,

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Speaker 4: which makes it feel like this was all set up

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Speaker 4: in advance. And then Don Lemmon tried to say, I

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Speaker 4: think we have this cut nine that oh, Elon is

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Speaker 4: canceling the contract, he doesn't care about free speech, and

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Speaker 4: before we even play what is cut nine here? Buck,

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Speaker 4: There's a big difference between what Elon has said, which

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Speaker 4: is you're entitled to post a video saying whatever you

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Speaker 4: want on Twitter on x there is no obligation for

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Speaker 4: me to pay.

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Speaker 1: That means elon me to pay you to share your opinions.

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Speaker 4: We don't have a First Amendment right to be paid

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Speaker 4: by iHeart. iHeart could decide, you know what, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: move on. We're gonna put other people on. Some of

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Speaker 4: you may say they should do that. If you read

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Speaker 4: right now, but we're not like it wouldn't be a

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Speaker 4: violation of our First Amendment rights. I can still say

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Speaker 4: You're not violated in the First Amendment by someone choosing

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Speaker 4: not to pay you to share your opinion. That's a

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Speaker 4: very easy argument to destroy. Yet this is what Don

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Speaker 4: Lemon said when he went on CNN that he's somehow

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Speaker 1: Listen to cut nine.

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Speaker 3: That's a good question for Elon Musk. Quite frankly, what happened.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: As I said in my statement, I felt really good

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Speaker 3: about the interview, I said to him as we were

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Speaker 3: doing the interview, and it was tense at moments, But

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Speaker 3: you've been involved in tense interviews, I said to him.

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Speaker 3: I think it's good that people see folks like you

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Speaker 3: and I who have different worldviews come together and talk.

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Speaker 3: As he says, have free speech. Free speech is only

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Speaker 3: important when someone you don't like, or I would say,

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Speaker 3: someone who doesn't have your same point of view are

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Speaker 3: someone is if they're allowed to speak freely and to

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Speaker 3: say their point of view. Apparently that doesn't matter to

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Speaker 3: Elon Musk, it's just for maybe talking points for him,

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Speaker 3: questions about him from people like me.

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Speaker 4: Fuck, would you pay someone who decided that they wanted

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Speaker 4: to take the money that you were giving them and

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Speaker 4: attack you as a part.

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Speaker 1: Of the money that you were paying them. No.

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Speaker 2: And I think that Elon Musk, in good faith, as

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Speaker 2: part of his desire to show that X is about

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Speaker 2: being a platform and a free speech entity, was willing

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Speaker 2: to extend you know, Tucker very publicly and with a

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Speaker 1: I think that Elon said, are, well, let's get Don

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Speaker 2: Somebody of Yeah, I mean somewhat similar media stature from

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Speaker 2: the other side, and Don Lemon this is how he responds.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he effectively stabs the guy in the back

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Speaker 2: the even bigger thing is Don and this is true

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Speaker 2: Clay He says, well, you know, if Elon believes in

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Speaker 2: a free speech it means the speech that you don't like,

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Speaker 2: that also means quote unquote hate speech.

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Speaker 1: Everybody. Yeah, you know, this is we've started to lose

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Speaker 1: this principle. Even on the right a little bit.

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Speaker 2: They say, oh, but you know, but not hey, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no hate speech.

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Speaker 1: Well what is what qualifies as hate speech these days?

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Speaker 1: What qualifies as white supremacy?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at some of the diversity

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Speaker 2: been able to find and distribute, there are places that

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Speaker 2: say white supremacy is demanding that people arrive on time

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Speaker 2: for things. Yeah, that's that was the member of the

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Speaker 2: Rufo training where he where he exposed at it's crazy,

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Speaker 2: you know. So, no, we can't allow people to say,

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Speaker 2: oh no, you know, no, no hate speech.

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Speaker 1: Well we have to.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to very Look, I understand it's a

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Speaker 2: private platform. So yes, Elon can make these kinds of distinctions,

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Speaker 2: but for these distinctions to be meaningful at all, you

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Speaker 2: have to very narrowly tailor what would define true hate speech.

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Speaker 2: That they would then remove from the platform in some way.

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Speaker 2: But there is really an argument you made. I mean,

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Speaker 2: ask a free speech absolutist. That's somebody who really believes

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Speaker 2: in the First Amendment. Can you say nasty, sexist, racist

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Speaker 2: at least from government intrusion?

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Speaker 1: So true free speech?

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Speaker 4: The answers, Yes, Yeah, I mean I'm a free speech absolutist.

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Speaker 4: I think you should be able to say anything. It

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Speaker 4: doesn't mean there aren't consequences for what you say, but

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Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that you should be paid to say it.

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Speaker 4: That's a very big difference, and a lot of people

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Speaker 4: don't seem to understand that. We have a lot of

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Speaker 4: writers that OutKick. We have hired a lot of them

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Speaker 4: to share their opinions. If at some point one of

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of.

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Speaker 4: You hanging out with us talking about a lot of

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Speaker 2: Well, there's not really a Don Lemon fan base to

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Speaker 2: He is a Republican candidate for Congress from Florida's twenty

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Speaker 1: I'm actually in West Palm right now.

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Speaker 2: He's a co host of the podcast Take Back Our Schools,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 6: it on TV. I was on the cover of the

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Speaker 6: New York Post, all over Fox News, and it helped

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Speaker 6: ignite this is back in the spring of twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 6: It helped ignite what became the Parents' movement and the

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Speaker 6: fight against Wolk education.

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Speaker 4: I love that you did this, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: I spoke at my school board meeting and about masks.

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Speaker 1: I remember this story with Brierly. Am I correct?

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Speaker 4: Megan Kelly had a daughter that was going there too,

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Speaker 4: and helped to publicize this. Maybe, so what made you

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Speaker 4: finally say I'm willing to potentially take the social hit

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Speaker 4: and be willing to speak out because I bet what

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Speaker 4: you found was most parents actually agreed with you privately,

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Speaker 4: but a lot of them were not willing to say

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Speaker 4: what you did publicly.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so so I should say our masks. We were

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Speaker 6: fighting with them on COVID restrictions as well. We actually

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Speaker 6: left New York City because we were getting fined five

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Speaker 6: hundred dollars every time our building saw off not where

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Speaker 6: an empty lobby. So we were fighting that battle too.

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Speaker 6: But you know, they tried to really tried to get

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Speaker 6: us to sign a pledge before the first day of

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Speaker 6: school that school year, not only would we support their

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Speaker 6: anti racism initiatives in the school, we will help support

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Speaker 6: them in the home. We said no, they didn't want

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Speaker 6: to let our daughter in the first day of school.

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Speaker 6: So you know, they were trying to indoctrinate not just

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Speaker 6: the kids, but the entire community. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 6: the story of when you know I knew this was

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Speaker 6: just unsavable. It was my daughter at inner one night says,

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Speaker 6: guess what we learned in school today? We learned you

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Speaker 6: never hold the door open for someone disabled because it's

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Speaker 6: a microaggression. And it wasn't even the race stuff, for

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Speaker 6: the gender stuff. And you're thinking to yourself. This is

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Speaker 6: really what this great school, the formerly great school, is

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Speaker 6: teaching our kids. This is a society they want us

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Speaker 6: to live in that you don't hold the door open

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Speaker 6: for someone disabled. And I said, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 6: We've got to find these issues. We've got to fight back.

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Speaker 6: I knew at that point, and I, you know, confidence

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Speaker 6: saying it now that exactly what you said. More than

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Speaker 6: half of the families were very upset with what was

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Speaker 6: going on with the mission change, and I think half

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Speaker 6: of the board of trustees was very upset and not

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Speaker 6: on board. And yet nobody else would speak up. And

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Speaker 6: I said, look, somebody has it. So I just wrote

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Speaker 6: this letter, never expecting it to go viral, and just

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Speaker 6: was trying to light a little fire up, really trying

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Speaker 6: to give the other parents, you know, the courage to

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Speaker 6: speak up. And I said, I'll take the hit for this,

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Speaker 6: but again it wound up helping to ignite this full

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Speaker 6: national movement.

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Speaker 2: And were speaking to Andrew Gutman, he's running for Congress

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Speaker 2: in the twenty second district here in Palm Beach County,

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Speaker 2: and I'm wondering to what degree were did you have

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Speaker 2: other parents who wanted to help you but felt nervous

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Speaker 2: about it versus parents who actually believe they're just crazy

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Speaker 2: woke nonsense. I mean, really is academically considered excellent, but

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Speaker 2: it's always been considered kind of progressive, so I can't

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Speaker 2: even imagine what it's like now.

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Speaker 6: So it's terrible. Now, that's the piece I just wrote

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Speaker 6: for the New York Post. But look, I think again,

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Speaker 6: more than half of the families, you know, who still

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Speaker 6: inferior at least wanted a real education for the kids.

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Speaker 6: And it was probably, you know, somewhe less than half

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Speaker 6: of the families that believe in this woke nonsense. You know,

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Speaker 6: the school had been indoctrinating the whole community for years.

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Speaker 6: I didn't really understand that when I wrote the letter.

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Speaker 6: They My wife had been on the parent association. They

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Speaker 6: had offered her about two years prior to twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: full days of anti racist training. Now was optional. Then

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Speaker 6: it became mandatory because we actually had to do two

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Speaker 6: mandatory anti racism sessions that every parent had to do.

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Speaker 6: But they had been indoctrinating the community for a while.

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Speaker 6: But you know what I mean, parents again, afraid to

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Speaker 6: speak up, afraid to get canceled, afraid for their kids

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Speaker 6: to get kicked out. They are addicted to the status

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Speaker 6: of these fancy, you know, elite private schools. They're addicted

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Speaker 6: to their kids getting into the Harvard Princeton Yells of

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Speaker 6: the world. And so we just can't get parents to

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Speaker 6: speak up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those places are overrated, as you and I know, Andrew,

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Speaker 2: but had more and more and more parents need to

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Speaker 2: figure that out. My wife went to University of Florida.

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Speaker 2: She loved it, had a great experience of fantastics school.

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Speaker 2: There's so many great options that aren't these sort of

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Speaker 2: the ivys and equivalents these days. But I want to

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Speaker 2: ask you about this real quick, because it's in your

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Speaker 2: New York post piece. The ideological indoctrination of children when

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Speaker 2: it comes to sex education begins in kindergarten.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, And this this isn't really This

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Speaker 6: is now in schools public and private, and even Religo

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Speaker 6: schools across the country. They introduced a new sex said curriculum.

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Speaker 6: They call it the OWL, which is a very widely

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Speaker 6: used curriculum and it absolutely starts in kindergarten. And if

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Speaker 6: you go to their website, you see, I mean this

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Speaker 6: is social justice orient that that is the mission. They

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Speaker 6: introduce gender ideology in kindergarten. They're introducing kids to pronouns

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Speaker 6: and alternative lifestyles. This is starting when our kids are

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Speaker 6: five years old, without questions.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Clay, yeah, I mean I've got three kids.

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Speaker 1: Do you think we're winning?

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Speaker 4: Like, are you seeing since twenty twenty when you spoke out,

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Speaker 4: do you think we're winning this? Or are they just

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Speaker 4: doubling down on the crazy?

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Speaker 6: They are doubling down. You know, we are losing this,

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Speaker 6: and we are losing this very very badly. You know,

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Speaker 6: we woke up in twenty twenty. You know a lot

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Speaker 6: of parents said that joined the movement they saw what

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Speaker 6: their kids were learning on Zoom school. Again different for us.

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Speaker 6: We had to do mandatory training in this stuff. But

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Speaker 6: you know, the entire K through twelve education system, as

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Speaker 6: well as the universities have been taken over by this ideology.

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Speaker 6: And frankly, that's you know, that's the reason I'm running

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Speaker 6: for Congress. And it isn't even just in schools. This,

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Speaker 6: you know, will progressive leftist social justice ideology, whatever you

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Speaker 6: want to call it, has I believe, taken over nearly

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Speaker 6: every institution of this country. And this is fundamentally a

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Speaker 6: rejection of America's founding Guy is a rejection of free speech,

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Speaker 6: of free markets and capitalism, of individual rights and meritocracy

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Speaker 6: in favor of identity rights, of the idea of objectivity

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Speaker 6: that there is right and wrong truth in the world,

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Speaker 6: to biological sexes. And this is what is taken over again,

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Speaker 6: not just K through twelve education, but everything. We are losing.

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Speaker 6: I don't think we've lost yet, and we need good

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Speaker 6: people to, you know, to step up and fight this

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Speaker 6: battle and try to reclaim these values and take back

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Speaker 6: these institutions.

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Speaker 4: But oh, go ahead, gli Now, I was just going

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Speaker 4: to say, tell us about the district that you're running in.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it is. I think I'm biased, obviously. It is

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Speaker 6: the most interesting congressional district in the country. It's all

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Speaker 6: in Palm Beach County. Mar A Lago is in the district.

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Speaker 6: Almost every Republican donor thigs Republican donor has a house

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Speaker 6: in the district. Eighty is one of the only districts

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Speaker 6: in the country, maybe the only that is an active

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Speaker 6: transition from blue to red. It had been considered a

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Speaker 6: very safe Democratic district with a very long time entrenched

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Speaker 6: very very progressive incumbent, and over the last three years

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Speaker 6: that data has changed dramatically of people like myself moving

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Speaker 6: down from New York. Everyone was worried about us bringing,

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Speaker 6: you know, lefty politics down. It's been exactly the opposite

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Speaker 6: to Stantus one pom Beach County when he won reelection

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Speaker 6: in twenty twenty two, first time a Republican governor had

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Speaker 6: won the county in almost forty years. And we're seeing

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Speaker 6: dramatically changing voter demographics in the district. And we're also

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Speaker 6: seeing this also likely the most Jewish district in the country,

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Speaker 6: and we're seeing very strong evidence of a post October

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Speaker 6: seventh Jewish realignment in the data. It's really really interesting

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Speaker 6: to see.

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Speaker 4: So this is a district that you are trying to

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Speaker 4: flip from blue to red.

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Speaker 1: Correct. What's your congressional website?

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Speaker 6: Andrew coretional website is Andrew Gutman dot com. One T

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Speaker 6: two end g T M A N N. You can

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Speaker 6: read a lot more about.

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Speaker 1: Me and the issues. My story.

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Speaker 6: The really letter is on there. But this is a

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Speaker 6: district that is winnable for the first time, and we

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Speaker 6: are getting enormous amount of tractions of very well. Fundraising

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Speaker 6: done very well, getting the message out that this is

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Speaker 6: a winnable district and we all know how tight the

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Speaker 6: house race is going to be in November twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 6: This is a district that we can flip and it

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Speaker 6: will have enormous impact nationally if we can do that.

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Speaker 1: No doubt.

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Speaker 4: Andrew Gutman, and we're trying to flip from blue to

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Speaker 4: red in the Palm Beach area.

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Speaker 1: Go check it out down in Florida. We appreciate you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, thanks very much for having me on.

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Speaker 4: I'm just I don't know what that's going to happen,

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Speaker 4: But we'll talk with Julie Kelly about that. What I

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Speaker 4: would say in general is the crimes that Biden would

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Speaker 4: have committed with classified documents happened long before Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: was ever vice president or in some of those cases,

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Speaker 4: because the documents state to when he was a senator.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, there is a h and I tweeted

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Speaker 2: about this or do we say X about this?

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Speaker 1: Like that sounds really tweeted. I'm gonna stay with tweets. Tweeted.

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Speaker 2: You say you xed something, I don't know, it just

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Speaker 2: might give people the wrong idea the you know. Anyway, Uh,

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Speaker 2: there's a there's a recklessness component to the statute about

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Speaker 2: mishandling national defense information under the Espionage Act. This came

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Speaker 2: up during the Hillary Clinton mishandling saga because, okay, you

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Speaker 2: get it right, I used to do this for a living.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you listening have had a clearance yourself,

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Speaker 2: or still have a clearance. You know, if you put

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Speaker 2: the wrong piece of paper from the printer in your

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Speaker 2: bag and you go home with it, you're not a criminal,

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Speaker 2: you're not a spy, you're not a bad person. You

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Speaker 2: bring it back in, and you know, if you tell

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Speaker 2: your security officer whatever the protocol is, there's some understanding. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it was a mistake, right, I mean, technically you've taken

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Speaker 2: classified out of a secure facility, but it's a miss

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Speaker 2: if you come home. If you come into the office, though,

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Speaker 2: and you say Hey, you know, you know that's super

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Speaker 2: secret stuff about the nukes. I just like I've been

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Speaker 2: taking like ten or fifteen classified docs home every day

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Speaker 2: for the last five years, and uh, let's get a

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Speaker 2: little too stacked in my library. So you know you're

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Speaker 2: gonna go to prison, right, I mean, that's why they

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Speaker 2: have a recklessness statute, because there's a baseline understanding that

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Speaker 2: you have a responsibility. And while nobody is perfect, and

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Speaker 2: your state of mind matters. You know, it's just like

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Speaker 2: if you're driving a car, right, Clay. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you if you're driving a car you potentially mow four

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Speaker 2: people down, you're getting or you know, three people down,

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Speaker 2: you're getting a triple homicide charge. If you're driving and

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Speaker 2: you know you're texting and you veer off the road

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Speaker 2: and you hit somebody by accident, you know it's involuntary manslaughter.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you know, the state of mind makes a big difference.

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Speaker 2: But if you do that five times, the judge is

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Speaker 2: gonna take that into account. That's the point, right, At

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Speaker 2: some point your mistake becomes more than just a mistake.

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Speaker 2: That's true about Biden. You used because you share this

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Speaker 2: seven different locations. Yes, this guy was papering his walls

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Speaker 2: with classified It's preposterous. Trump took classified home that he

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Speaker 2: said he declassified when he was president and kept under

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Speaker 2: literal lock and key.

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Speaker 4: And you said, and I know there are many people

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Speaker 4: out there that have had security clearances. I am not

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Speaker 4: one of them, but you have many people out there

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Speaker 4: listening to us have But I think this brings home

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Speaker 4: for many people. If you had had buck classified documents

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Speaker 4: that were discovered in seven different locations, you said this,

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Speaker 4: But I think it really brings it home for everybody.

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Speaker 1: What would have happened to you?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I told you Clearance fired, Clearance stripped negotiating

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Speaker 2: with the agency and the US attorney to probably take

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Speaker 2: some kind of a plea. Look, I'd probably tried to

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Speaker 2: get like a suspended sentence or you know, a no

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Speaker 2: jail situation, but I would plead guilty to some kind

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Speaker 2: of a classified offense. And that's what would happen. Right again,

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Speaker 2: under the ideas, you're not giving to a foreign adversary,

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Speaker 2: you're not intentionally harming US security. But if you're just

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Speaker 2: being an idiot, you're gonna suffer some consequences for being

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Speaker 2: an idiot. You're gonna suffer career consequences and some legal consequences.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's getting off with nothing, nothing.

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Speaker 4: No doubt, and so we'll see. We'll talk with Julie

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Speaker 4: Kelly in the next hour. I wanted to play this too.

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Speaker 4: CNN we mentioned earlier in the show came after Aaron

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Speaker 4: Rodgers alleging that he had denied that Sandy hook ever

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Speaker 4: took place in a conversation with a CNN reporter at

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Speaker 4: the Kentucky Derby over a decade ago. I have been

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Speaker 4: to the Kentucky Derby. Let me just say this, the

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Speaker 4: percentage of people that are under the influence of alcohol

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Speaker 4: at the Kentucky Derby is massive. You go, you drink,

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Speaker 4: you watch horses run. I wouldn't feel very confident quoting

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Speaker 4: people on serious issues from parties at the Kentucky Derby

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Speaker 4: after a decade CNN did. What's interesting here is Greg

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Speaker 4: let me make sure I got this right, because I

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Speaker 4: want to play this audio that we just added.

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Speaker 1: But Aaron Rodgers a while ago. We'll do it.

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Speaker 4: We come back because I hear the music starting. Greg

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Speaker 4: Price shared this. Aaron Rodgers has actually gone on local

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Speaker 4: news in Wisconsin in twenty twelve and talked about the

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Speaker 4: Sandy Hook shooting. We'll play that audio for you because

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Speaker 4: it calls into question. Go figure, Buck, whether or not

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Speaker 4: CNN's reporting is accurate. Aaron Rodgers thinking about BMVP for

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Speaker 4: RFK Junior, and all of a sudden, CNN comes after him,

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Speaker 4: maybe with fake news. We'll talk about that and more.

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Speaker 4: Third Hour. We have discussed this for six months or

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Speaker 4: so now, major issues for Joe Biden in the state

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Speaker 4: of Michigan, in particular over October seventh, and it's aftermath.

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Speaker 4: You're going to want to hear what Chuck Schumer said

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Speaker 4: on the Senate floor. Democrats are panicking. Schumer has come

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Speaker 4: down fully on the side of replacing the entire Israeli government.

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Speaker 1: Really will play it for you.