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Speaker 1: into this game, this rivalry. They were Dallas and we

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Speaker 1: Obviously a little jubilation out there, Paul. Yeah, they stormed

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Speaker 1: Vince Tobin that night, although history says the bigger, more

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Speaker 1: Arizona who converted for good, the Cardinals really won over

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Speaker 1: You know, if I didn't make that, they might have

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Speaker 1: Great punctuation, A great point after, if you will, from

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Speaker 1: kicker Kevin Butler when we asked him to go down

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Speaker 1: I'm Paul CALVISI we hope you enjoyed this edition of

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Speaker 1: Cardinal's Folk Tales, presented by seventy two sold