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Speaker 1: It's my birthday week, so I'm feeling I'm feeling very
Speaker 1: Leo and I am leaning all the way into my
Speaker 1: leonis this week. I've got my party all plan. I
Speaker 1: know Superman he's having his little well.
Speaker 2: This weekend, this past this week, cause we're again.
Speaker 1: It's Friday the sixth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his birthday is tomorrow the third. But yeah, we
Speaker 2: had our party. It was and went really well. It
Speaker 2: just was like such a good time. It was just
Speaker 2: a barbecue and all his family and friends came and
Speaker 2: also his twin as well, and so it just was
Speaker 2: it was everything. They were just like so great with
Speaker 2: They're like, Tiffany, that was so amazing, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, now we're all friends, because you know,
Speaker 2: planning a party can be like I hate everybody, but
Speaker 2: now we're all thirty percent of it.
Speaker 1: Now it's gone. Now you did it.
Speaker 2: You win.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm really hard to please. I keep trying to
Speaker 1: let Husbie plan stuff. But it's been almost ten years now,
Speaker 1: and I just don't know if I'm ever gonna change.
Speaker 1: I just don't know. But listen, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you went through this. I'm kind of going through an
Speaker 1: awkward situation now because you know, I planned this party
Speaker 1: two months ago. I think I sent out invites and everything,
Speaker 1: and I've realized that some folks, a friend and you know,
Speaker 1: a good friend who I invited, hasn't been vaccinated, nor
Speaker 1: has her family. And I'm kind of in this awkward
Speaker 1: situation now where I decided I'm going to disinvite them
Speaker 1: just because, yeah, I know, I told you that. I
Speaker 1: even you know, it sounds so dramatic to say I
Speaker 1: let the dog walker go. But our neighbor kid, he's
Speaker 1: a teenager and he's been walking Molly for a long time.
Speaker 1: He just refuses to get vaccinated. His parents have. He's
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, you know, like we're not going to
Speaker 1: get sick or whatever. It doesn't really hurt teenager. It's
Speaker 1: just like dumb kid, you know. So you know, I
Speaker 1: was just like, listen, we joke about it. I haven't
Speaker 1: offered him one hundred bucks in my damnself before the government,
Speaker 1: you know, said we should maybe do as an incentive.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll give you a hundred bucks, dude,
Speaker 1: go get the vaccine. You can, like, it's not even
Speaker 1: that far. You don't have to even have an appointment anymore.
Speaker 1: I think. Anyway, he didn't do it, so I was
Speaker 1: just like, listen, you know, I'll walk Mollie until you
Speaker 1: get vaccinated. Deuces. So the thing is with this new
Speaker 1: delta variant, and I've been it seems like the news
Speaker 1: has gotten a little bit worse each day for the
Speaker 1: past month, and we're at the point now where even
Speaker 1: if you're vaccinated, I do not want to. First of all,
Speaker 1: let me just say all the science still shows vaccines
Speaker 1: are the way to go. Y'all, go get your sticks. Okay.
Speaker 1: They will still prevent you from getting really ill, They
Speaker 1: can be extremely effective from getting other people sick, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. They really truly work. And the only the
Speaker 1: best vaccine you can get is the one that's available
Speaker 1: to you. You know, just get anyone that you can get. However,
Speaker 1: some research has or you know, they've they've been following
Speaker 1: these kind of breakout cases where people who are vaccinated
Speaker 1: are getting sick and they found that, like we used
Speaker 1: to think that when you got the vaccine, you know,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have enough virus in you to be able
Speaker 1: to pass that on to other people. But they are
Speaker 1: seeing that people who have the vaccine can pass it on.
Speaker 1: And if it was just my if it was just
Speaker 1: my immediate family, it's outdoor fair. I think I would
Speaker 1: be okay with it. But we're inviting you know, relatives,
Speaker 1: elderly relatives from my husband's side, and people with kids
Speaker 1: who I just feel like, as a responsible host, one
Speaker 1: of the things I should do is just make sure
Speaker 1: that everyone is as safe as possible. And god forbid,
Speaker 1: I'm one of those you know, birthday parties who turns
Speaker 1: into like, you know, an event where there's all these cases.
Speaker 1: So it's just really awkward. So my heart goes out
Speaker 1: to anybody who's in these awkward social situations. Again, it's
Speaker 1: just feeling a lot like twenty twenty up in here.
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, like it was crazy because I remember
Speaker 2: that at first, you know, Superman did not I want
Speaker 2: to get vaccinated. He's like, what if we turn into zombies?
Speaker 2: I'm like, shut up, you know, I know he met
Speaker 2: he just met, Like what if there's like some sort
Speaker 2: of like and I'm like, well, there will be zombies together.
Speaker 2: Now he's like a vax snob, like they didn't get vaccinated.
Speaker 2: I'm like, bra, just not too long ago. I had
Speaker 2: to threaten you to get violated. That got the fuze
Speaker 2: or now because like I invited my parents to like,
Speaker 2: you know, he invited my parents to there to his
Speaker 2: party and they were like, yeah, no, we're not coming
Speaker 2: out yet because my dad is eighty and he's like,
Speaker 2: m too soon, And so I can understand. And now
Speaker 2: I see he has like a work, his work, his
Speaker 2: work father that he's retired, that his name is Ron,
Speaker 2: and Ron is like in his seventies and he's come
Speaker 2: to every other party. But he was like nah, like
Speaker 2: like I'm vaccinated, but it's too soon and I want
Speaker 2: to take the risk. So no, I totally I totally
Speaker 2: feel like it's it is worrisome. I mean we're all,
Speaker 2: you know, vaccinated, we're actually getting Supergirl vaccinate because she's fourteen.
Speaker 1: So okay mm hmm, yeah, okay, I mean my friend
Speaker 1: has valid The thing is, this is not a person
Speaker 1: who you would ever suspect to be hesitant, but for
Speaker 1: you know, she's done her research. She's extremely smart, she's
Speaker 1: very thoughtful. She has teenage and young sons, and one
Speaker 1: of her reasons and even though her teenagers are eligible
Speaker 1: like Supergirl is now, you know, there's been some concern
Speaker 1: and about the impact on young boys and all of this.
Speaker 1: So she's being very thoughtful. And at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, we did have a conversation and I did
Speaker 1: my level best to gently talk to her and like
Speaker 1: be understanding and empathetic. But I truly am really frustrated
Speaker 1: by anyone who's just not getting the vaccine. And I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna you know, I'm not the CDC, obviously, we're
Speaker 1: just a couple of people living in this world. But
Speaker 1: we will post in the show notes a link to
Speaker 1: the latest research, the latest science that shows the vaccine's work,
Speaker 1: and a link for you to get an appointment in
Speaker 1: your area, because we can't go back, y'all. We cannot.
Speaker 1: And the only way we're going to move forward to
Speaker 1: normalcy so I can have my dang birthday party next
Speaker 1: year too, just does not just about me, is if
Speaker 1: people get vaccinated and take it seriously, and if you're
Speaker 1: not going to get vaxxed and everybody, you know, even
Speaker 1: if you are vaccinated. Where a damn.
Speaker 2: Ma mask it up?
Speaker 1: And this concludes your science, your science moment for the day.
Speaker 1: What else is going on? We're gonna talk about simone.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just feel like exhausted about, like,
Speaker 2: you know, the bashing of black women. That's why I like,
Speaker 2: I'm not on social hardly. No, But I was going
Speaker 2: to ask you, have you ever been to like kind
Speaker 2: of like these high level networking events. It costs like
Speaker 2: like a bunch of money to go. Like there's one
Speaker 2: in particular that I'm considering that my business coach suggested.
Speaker 2: It's like four days, it's in New Orleans. But it's
Speaker 2: like it's it's and they don't they like to say
Speaker 2: it's not networking. It's just connecting with people who you know,
Speaker 2: who are entrepreneurs doing amazing things. And it's a no
Speaker 2: pitch zone, so you know, people are not pitching you
Speaker 2: to like sign up for this so by this thing,
Speaker 2: because I've been to something like that before and that really,
Speaker 2: you know, did not sit well with me. And so
Speaker 2: it's not cheap. It's like ten thousand dollars and so
Speaker 2: it happens, and so I know, it's really because the
Speaker 2: types of relationships that you get to build, that's the premise,
Speaker 2: you know, are ones that will totally outweigh you know,
Speaker 2: the cost of the ten thousand dollars. You know, folks there,
Speaker 2: you know, have built one hundred million dollar businesses are running,
Speaker 2: you know, like like some of the names, I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I read that name in the news,
Speaker 2: you know, And what's supposed to set this one apart
Speaker 2: is especially that they're not that they're really looking for
Speaker 2: like kind, integrity filled entrepreneurs, Like you're not. You can't
Speaker 2: come there and be rude. They make it a conscious
Speaker 2: effort that they ask the staff at the hotel, They
Speaker 2: asked the you know, your writer, like they decide whether
Speaker 2: or not to invite you back based upon how you
Speaker 2: treat have you treated other people? They have like a
Speaker 2: forrung approach, which I like, so you know sometimes you know,
Speaker 2: so that's what really like interests me, Like hmmm, I
Speaker 2: like the fact that kindness is high on the scale
Speaker 2: of like no, no, no, You're not got to come
Speaker 2: here as a big shot and think that you're going
Speaker 2: to treat people poorly. If you do that, you won't
Speaker 2: be invited back. So I was like on the fence
Speaker 2: because my coach, you know, invited me. I got it interviewed,
Speaker 2: and you know, they accepted me. So I was just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, but now I'm like
Speaker 2: maybe because honestly, the truth is, I said, I want
Speaker 2: to start to expand my capacity for what's possible when
Speaker 2: it comes to growing professionally. And I never really was like,
Speaker 2: you know, like I never joined a sorority. I've never
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I'm not usually one for
Speaker 2: organized sports. Oh well that's that's not true. I played tennis,
Speaker 2: but that's different. But yeah, I just I was just like,
Speaker 2: huh should I? But then I said to this, this
Speaker 2: is what you asked for that like you know, you
Speaker 2: don't you only know as much as you know, and
Speaker 2: you know, and if you want to like expand like
Speaker 2: what's possible and expand like my capacity for like oh
Speaker 2: I didn't even think that was reasonable. Oh someone else
Speaker 2: has done that. Member, Like I was telling you how
Speaker 2: I've got this business that I'm working on and you know,
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to wrap my mind around it. And
Speaker 2: we mentioned that like a friend of ours has sold
Speaker 2: his business for like, I don't know, thirty forty million dollars,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, let me speak with him
Speaker 2: because I forgot that because I know I might be
Speaker 2: thinking like, oh, it's so overwhelming, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: to talk to someone who's done it helps to kind
Speaker 2: of erase some of the mystery. So that's really like
Speaker 2: the point is that you really get to connect with
Speaker 2: good people, build relationships that might eventually turn into something
Speaker 2: more professionally or just even personally, might just create some
Speaker 2: really great friendships, you know, but in doing so, you
Speaker 2: start to just expose yourself to just a different level
Speaker 2: of professional achievement, you know. And so like yeah, like
Speaker 2: I said, I was on the fence about it, but
Speaker 2: I was just wondering if you've ever been to like whatever,
Speaker 2: like you know, a version of like the next level
Speaker 2: of networking as related. So because I remember you said
Speaker 2: like you you were part of like a journalist like right, like.
Speaker 1: Thing, I was just about to say, this sounds like
Speaker 1: a wonderful opportunity, and it also sounds like you already
Speaker 1: know that you want to go, and you're going to go.
Speaker 2: I was I'm not gonna lie. Part of me was
Speaker 2: like is this, I asked him. I'm like, is it
Speaker 2: very bro culture? I said, I'm not interested.
Speaker 1: In Like do they let you see who's gonna be there?
Speaker 1: But they probably don't want to entice people just based
Speaker 1: on names, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, Well he showed me some people, but he was like,
Speaker 2: and my coaches isn't he's he's Asian. And he was like, Tiffany,
Speaker 2: I would not have invited you. It was like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, I was like, not really interested, and he
Speaker 2: was just like, no, it's not that at all, as
Speaker 2: it said.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, I I think it's great. And I
Speaker 1: think that as you know, adults, it's harder and harder
Speaker 1: to have those those constructed opportunities to meet, mix and mingle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and this sounds wonderful. I mean for me, I did
Speaker 1: do through my company, well not through my company. I
Speaker 1: applied and got into a special cohort of business journalists
Speaker 1: and people in the business journalism world, even when I was,
Speaker 1: you know, technically not in traditional reporting anymore. It's when
Speaker 1: I was a senior director in content marketing. But that
Speaker 1: it was a it was a week long, intensive, all
Speaker 1: day you're with It's like summer camp for journalism. Senior
Speaker 1: director nerds or whatever, and it was so amazing. I
Speaker 1: mean it cost a couple thousand dollars, which because I
Speaker 1: was you know, it was a management training. It was
Speaker 1: specifically about helping you know, people who are maybe going
Speaker 1: from a reporter to now managing teams as editor in
Speaker 1: chiefs and et cetera, kind of giving us the tools
Speaker 1: that we needed to bridge that gap and skills. And
Speaker 1: for me, it was a couple of thousand dollars an
Speaker 1: I I had that comped or covered by my company,
Speaker 1: which is which is a possibility, but it sounds to
Speaker 1: me like budget needs to ink would probably approve this
Speaker 1: expense for your professional development healthy. Yeah, it's ten k
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you're right. I think it was less about
Speaker 2: the money and more since New Orleans, I know, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna lie that was the kind of thing thing
Speaker 2: maybe saying either way, it's a good time.
Speaker 1: It was more like that's our place, remember, I know.
Speaker 2: A long walks along. I know we like stacked by
Speaker 2: the river. We were like yes, and so yeah, I
Speaker 2: think it was less about the cost. Honestly, to your point,
Speaker 2: like you know, I know, budgets to pay for it.
Speaker 2: It was just more I don't think people realize how
Speaker 2: as much as it seems like I'm extroverted, it sounds
Speaker 2: like that because I know Mandy and that's she's my friend.
Speaker 2: That like, I'm actually more, way more shy than people
Speaker 2: like recognize that. Like if I'm in a space or
Speaker 2: a room where I don't know people, then I'm like mute,
Speaker 2: you know. And so I was just a little nervous
Speaker 2: about that because like I didn't know. I guess I
Speaker 2: was just where This is what I told Zion, my coach,
Speaker 2: like what, like what's the expectation for like, you know,
Speaker 2: cause I didn't want to have to perform basically, you know,
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: Just gonna say, it's fucking exhausting to be an introverted
Speaker 1: black woman sometimes because you get into a room and
Speaker 1: people are like, oh hey, Like when you were like
Speaker 1: one of the few at the at the at the
Speaker 1: wedding or at the party, it's like, oh hey girl, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on that dance for later, right yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: And You're like, maybe I just don't want to dance,
Speaker 1: or maybe I'm just quiet. You know, it's lonely out here.
Speaker 2: For black women. Introverts.
Speaker 1: I think that's why you and I connected to start with,
Speaker 1: because we're at this big conference and we're just like
Speaker 1: you talking me, Okay, let's go escape.
Speaker 2: Escape. It's so I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it. It's like one of the microaggressions that
Speaker 1: we face as people just thinking we're going to be
Speaker 1: the life of.
Speaker 2: The party yet, and that's exactly what I'm just like, so,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go because I'm going to stretch beyond
Speaker 2: my you know, my growth yup. And I'm just like, okay,
Speaker 2: because like I said, I spoke design today. He was
Speaker 2: just like, it's not bro culture. It's okay to be shy,
Speaker 2: and you know, because I don't want to be penalized
Speaker 2: like she doesn't talk. And you never know, if I
Speaker 2: feel really comfortable, I might, you know, But if I don't,
Speaker 2: if I just been feeling a little shy, I might not.
Speaker 2: I might just be doing a lot more you know, listening.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was just like I'm excited though, because
Speaker 2: opportunities like that are starting to arise and I, you know,
Speaker 2: really I'm working on a lot more personal development, you know,
Speaker 2: and it feels good. That's one of the things I
Speaker 2: had my last call with doctor Green, my you know,
Speaker 2: my personal coach. I was like totally and she's like, Tiffany,
Speaker 2: the thing you came for, which is so crazy. I
Speaker 2: came after we had arbage journey in monic Christina on.
Speaker 2: I was like, they seem super connected to joy. I
Speaker 2: felt it was visceral. I was like, is that what happened?
Speaker 2: It sounds like because I'm not as connected and I
Speaker 2: want to be. And I literally found her was like,
Speaker 2: I want that feeling that they were emoting, and I
Speaker 2: feel that now and I am a little nervous about
Speaker 2: maintaining it. You know. That was like one of my
Speaker 2: you know, worries. And she's like, you have the tools,
Speaker 2: you have, the how you have, the why you're ready,
Speaker 2: And I was just like, I just feel like it
Speaker 2: isn't like coaching and therapy's supposed to last forever. She's like, no,
Speaker 2: you know you, especially if you have a goal, it's
Speaker 2: possible to meet your goal. And I'm really proud of
Speaker 2: you because you leaned in. And she's like, the cap
Speaker 2: was the six weeks off because it really helped to
Speaker 2: take all the tools that we've been working on and
Speaker 2: you put them to work and here we are. I
Speaker 2: was like, I guess, so, I know.
Speaker 1: Even a Moan and Christina aren't that joyful every single day.
Speaker 1: I'm sure like you can have your down days. I
Speaker 1: think it's just the one thing I have learned from
Speaker 1: lots and lots of therapy, especially when it comes to anxiety,
Speaker 1: is just reminding yourself feelings are not forever. Yeah, moments
Speaker 1: are not forever. Like two weekends ago when or was
Speaker 1: it last weekend, It's all a blur. When Rio was
Speaker 1: he had the worst like cold or RSV or whatever
Speaker 1: it was, and it felt so much like the newborn phase.
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, no, I think I have I
Speaker 1: can't go back there. I think I have PTSD. This
Speaker 1: is just feeling and I almost lost it, and then
Speaker 1: I just was like, chance, it's like an internal monologue
Speaker 1: that my tool is this is a moment in time.
Speaker 1: It will get better, it will get better, it will
Speaker 1: get better. So I you know, I think I think
Speaker 1: it's natural to be fearful of the other shoe dropping.
Speaker 1: I certainly am always kind of having to, you know,
Speaker 1: be aware that that's how I operate. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: things are going good now, but what happens when or
Speaker 1: what happens when but you know, you know that you've
Speaker 1: got the tools you need to bounce back. And that
Speaker 1: comes that applies to Joy too, you know, and.
Speaker 2: She says, she's like, you have the tool, sidany you'll
Speaker 2: be fine.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, see you next number.
Speaker 2: I do. And she's like, if you ever need to
Speaker 2: get back, I was like, I dually noted, yeah, but
Speaker 2: this exciting thing happened. So, I don't know, have you
Speaker 2: ever heard of Jeff Walker in this book called Launch?
Speaker 1: No, so, La, You've been teaching me a lot about
Speaker 1: books lately. I don't know half the books you talk about,
Speaker 1: but I'm just jealous of all your reading. Well tell
Speaker 1: me all about Jeff. What do I need to know?
Speaker 2: So? Jeff Walker I started this this like marketing strategy
Speaker 2: called product launch theory or product launch strategy anyway. So
Speaker 2: he he did it for himself and he thought, well,
Speaker 2: other people must be doing this as well, and he
Speaker 2: quickly realized that nobody else was launching in this way.
Speaker 2: Launching meaning you have a product or service and you
Speaker 2: want to bring it to market. You want to say,
Speaker 2: like think about it like rolling out a movie or
Speaker 2: like an album that's coming out. You know, they get
Speaker 2: you outcited and it comes out. He was like, you know,
Speaker 2: people don't know how to launch their product or service.
Speaker 2: So he created product launch theory or strategy, and then
Speaker 2: he wrote a book about it some years ago, and
Speaker 2: it did really well. It hit New York Times, it
Speaker 2: was number one on the New York Times Best Sellers list,
Speaker 2: and it sold a ton it. Honestly, almost every digital
Speaker 2: marketer or online marketer that I know, they use his
Speaker 2: product launch strategy just because it just works so well.
Speaker 2: They used part all our whole. And so when I
Speaker 2: first I first learned about him because Jabrill, my business
Speaker 2: partner in my school of the Liberatary Academy, told me,
Speaker 2: you know when we're right before we were launching the Academy,
Speaker 2: you should read this book and we should. This is
Speaker 2: this is kind of like the template of how to launch.
Speaker 2: And I said, okay, So we launched. We used like
Speaker 2: his strategy to the tea in the first thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: I remember, like I remember distinctly, I was still like
Speaker 2: in my old apartment with Jarell in the halfway hood.
Speaker 2: Jabrill actually Camember Jabrill actually came in like he like
Speaker 2: he came in that day like six am in the morning.
Speaker 2: We were like, and we're sitting, like, the three of
Speaker 2: us are sitting in front of the computer. The numbers
Speaker 2: are going to thirty thousand dollars and thirty minutes. And
Speaker 2: because Jibro had seen numbers like that before, but can
Speaker 2: you imagine, Jirell was like and I was like, I
Speaker 2: used to make thirty thousand dollars me. It was crazy,
Speaker 2: and so I just remember thinking it was amazing. So
Speaker 2: since then, I've used his system over and over. So
Speaker 2: I was on Amazon maybe like a year or two ago,
Speaker 2: and Amazon reminded me, you never wrote a review for
Speaker 2: the book. So I went to write a review and
Speaker 2: I named it. I said, like, this book launched me
Speaker 2: into an eight figure of year business. And then I
Speaker 2: explained how in the you know, because I saw some
Speaker 2: people were like, this is a scam, it can't be
Speaker 2: true and whatever, and I was like, these are people
Speaker 2: who have not read the book. Is it a lot
Speaker 2: of work? Certainly, but it works. And I was like,
Speaker 2: and I don't know Jeff, and they're like, oh, I
Speaker 2: feel like he's trying to upsell you to his other
Speaker 2: other product products. And honestly, I didn't feel that way
Speaker 2: when I read the book, and maybe he does mention
Speaker 2: that he has other stuff, and I said, I literally
Speaker 2: have never paid for anything else other than this fifteen
Speaker 2: dollar book. So and it changed, it changed the trajectory
Speaker 2: of my life. So anyway, I wrote that in the
Speaker 2: arm review. Jeff emails me six week months later. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, he's a house just yes, after reading
Speaker 2: I guess he must have saw the and you know,
Speaker 2: the the review and then and then my name on
Speaker 2: on on Amazon is the budget LISTA. So it wasn't
Speaker 2: that hard to find it. So he says, hey, like,
Speaker 2: you know, Tiffany, thank you so much for your amazing review.
Speaker 2: I would love to like jump on a call with you,
Speaker 2: because I'm right, I'm doing an updated version of Launch
Speaker 2: and I would love to include you and maybe as
Speaker 2: a case study. I was like, what say less? So
Speaker 2: then so he said, you know, he said that. But
Speaker 2: then we were we just kept missing each other and
Speaker 2: almost like I felt like a year went by, and
Speaker 2: then finally I was like, let me hit jump up again.
Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, my gosh, should be dang
Speaker 2: already finished the book, and I was like no, because
Speaker 2: I wanted to be included. He was like, but we
Speaker 2: should still jump on a call. So we did.
Speaker 1: Had a book baby that last year too, so.
Speaker 2: Exactly so I knew exactly how much work you know,
Speaker 2: and how inundated you could be. So we jumped on
Speaker 2: a call anyway, and he was just like so amazed
Speaker 2: by you know, the trajectory of the business, you know,
Speaker 2: from like me being a priest teacher to like, you know,
Speaker 2: grow creating the eight figure of your business. And he
Speaker 2: was just like, Dang, I wish I could have included
Speaker 2: you because I think it's important for people to see
Speaker 2: because you didn't come from the business world, so I
Speaker 2: think it's important for people to see, like you know
Speaker 2: that it's possible to do this without any prior background.
Speaker 2: He said, but you know what, I would love to
Speaker 2: include your your review maybe, like you know, like in
Speaker 2: the book somewhere. And I was like, oh fine, I'm
Speaker 2: thinking like a blurb of the review. So I was
Speaker 2: on Amazon the other day and Amazon again was like, hey, Tiffany,
Speaker 2: this launch book is out. I'm like, oh, Jeff's book
Speaker 2: it just it just literally launched last week. And I said, okay,
Speaker 2: So as I'm scrolling up inside the like on his
Speaker 2: on the Amazon page where his book is. It's my
Speaker 2: picture in my my review. I was like, oh he
Speaker 2: put it like on his author thing page or whatever.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's awesome, and I said, well,
Speaker 2: let me support and order the book. I ordered the book.
Speaker 2: It gets here, girl. Why I'm opening up the page
Speaker 2: right after the tape of contents is my review and
Speaker 2: a huge picture of me. I was like, wait what
Speaker 2: he put me in the app? So book girl, I
Speaker 2: was like.
Speaker 1: You made it.
Speaker 2: It was just such a you know, like a full
Speaker 2: circle moment of like I just left the review because
Speaker 2: it really helped me, and like I don't I don't
Speaker 2: know how to describe like who Jeff Walker is to this,
Speaker 2: to this kind of online business community. He is like
Speaker 2: one of like he is a thought leader and a
Speaker 2: guru so to be like to be in his book,
Speaker 2: it's like, I mean he advises people like Michael Hyatt
Speaker 2: of like the Hya you know, like and so it's
Speaker 2: just like what I could not believe. And it's like
Speaker 2: Tiffany the Budget lista Leach, author of Get Good with Money.
Speaker 2: I was like, thank you for the ad.
Speaker 1: Yes, talk about their free marketing.
Speaker 2: Dude. I know, like honestly, I could not believe. I
Speaker 2: was like, I could not believe I was in the book.
Speaker 2: And when I tell you a huge picture, it's like
Speaker 2: the whole page. I'm like you would think like, well
Speaker 2: did she write this book? Because it's right at the beginning,
Speaker 2: so you got the you have the book.
Speaker 1: There we can be.
Speaker 2: Saying, you know, I know I was thinking of it's
Speaker 2: in my bedroom upstairs, but but yeah, I was just thinking,
Speaker 2: like it's just one of those things where it's just
Speaker 2: you know, I was trying telling Zion today that, like,
Speaker 2: you know, if I if there is a mantra or
Speaker 2: a motto that I'm wanting for life, is that I
Speaker 2: just want a life well lived, you know, like the
Speaker 2: fullness of whatever that looks like. And things like this,
Speaker 2: Like you know, that was you know, like a left
Speaker 2: review because it was a good book and for it
Speaker 2: to turn into this, and I feel like if you
Speaker 2: just let you know, if you pour all the good
Speaker 2: things in, things will start to unfold, you know. And
Speaker 2: it's just a.
Speaker 1: Kindness, yes, just talking about kindness.
Speaker 2: Yes, because literally it's the key. I thought to myself
Speaker 2: it was unfair that they were leaving those nasty reviews
Speaker 2: because that wasn't true. So I felt like because normally
Speaker 2: I probably just would have said great book, but I
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, No, I'm going to show
Speaker 2: like I really broke down like the three different, three
Speaker 2: or four different launches that I did and how they worked,
Speaker 2: because I wanted people to know, like, no, that's not true.
Speaker 2: Someone's writing this because maybe they're angry because you know,
Speaker 2: they haven't got through the book or they didn't do
Speaker 2: all the work. But you're right, like, literally, that's all
Speaker 2: that was, and now look how it like unfolds, and
Speaker 2: so yeah, life can just be such like this hard
Speaker 2: but amazing thing all the same time. But I definitely
Speaker 2: was like, I can't believe I'm in Jeff Walker's book,
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't I don't have the worst to describe
Speaker 2: what that means.
Speaker 1: Oh, Tiffany, you're just like magic fairy dust to summerfies
Speaker 1: sometimes like but no, I mean those genuine, little those
Speaker 1: genuine moments of kindness I think propel or if you
Speaker 1: really get down to the root of the most successful,
Speaker 1: genuinely successful people that people still want to be around
Speaker 1: and have good lives, I think it's got to be kindness.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's teachable or what. But I'm
Speaker 1: not surprised at all that. I mean, from the from
Speaker 1: from the from the jump, You've always been, you know,
Speaker 1: very authentic and very kind. And I certainly I leave
Speaker 1: reviews for podcasts all the time because I know what
Speaker 1: it's like to read reviews for your show and feel
Speaker 1: like they're a little unfair. So and I think it's
Speaker 1: just a good mess. It's just to tell people what
Speaker 1: impact they've had on you. You don't know, you know, where
Speaker 1: they may be in their lives. They may they may
Speaker 1: need to hear it, and that's really beautiful. I might
Speaker 1: need to go get that book now.
Speaker 2: They don't need to hear We don't want to hear
Speaker 2: about cho Ivy of Journey. Remember that that was I
Speaker 2: wonder if that lady's like, I'm sorry, Okay, she.
Speaker 1: Was having a bad day. Listen, she was having a
Speaker 1: bad day. But that's why there's always going to be
Speaker 1: that negativity out there. But we need y'all to go
Speaker 1: leave us a review. Yeah, I'm going to bring it
Speaker 1: back to leaving us a review, Leave us a review.
Speaker 1: I really want to get to two thousand. I think
Speaker 1: we're only like one hundred and fifty away. But you
Speaker 1: can just right here right now. We get millions of downloads, y'all.
Speaker 1: I know you're listening, and I know you're on a
Speaker 1: smartphone right now, you can just click rate and review
Speaker 1: wherever you're listening. It takes like two seconds. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: well congrats Tive. That's freaking amazing and not surprising base
Speaker 1: on what I know of you.
Speaker 2: All right, well, now it's time for booster break for
Speaker 2: all our family. Are you gonna boot? Are you gonna break?
Speaker 2: What you're gonna do, what you're gonna do, What you're
Speaker 2: gonna what you're gonna do, Mandy, what you're gonna do?
Speaker 1: Do you feel more self conscious singing now that we
Speaker 1: can see each other now?
Speaker 2: Actually, I feel it's actually better because, oh maybe got
Speaker 2: the rhythm? Come on, Mandy makes me want to dance.
Speaker 1: And I'm at my standing desk and I just can't
Speaker 1: like stop, like, yes.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you. I'm like, are you standing because
Speaker 2: I was like, you look like.
Speaker 1: Your stand standing? Yes, And I'm I'm just sitting at
Speaker 1: that desk for hours. I was writing an article this morning.
Speaker 1: It took me like two hours. So yes, I'm stretching
Speaker 1: my legs but I am going to do a boost.
Speaker 1: I know you said you don't want to talk about it,
Speaker 1: but it's my boost and you cannot take it away
Speaker 1: from me. Okay, I'm gonna boost Simone Biles. When we
Speaker 1: recorded last week, Simone had I think at that point
Speaker 1: she had done not so great at like a preliminary event,
Speaker 1: and since then there has been a lot of movements,
Speaker 1: and you guys probably know at this point Simone, I
Speaker 1: think there's one event left which she's supposed to compete in,
Speaker 1: and I don't even know when that is in Tokyo
Speaker 1: time versus USA time, But she has withdrawn from all
Speaker 1: these different events. And I listened to uh uh, there
Speaker 1: was a New York Times podcast just going over to
Speaker 1: Simone's how she sort of got to this space, and
Speaker 1: I just thought, I thought what kept coming back to
Speaker 1: me was the like And I know that there's been
Speaker 1: there has been some negativity around Simone, like, oh, she's
Speaker 1: done the unpatriotic thing she's supposed to represent America. But
Speaker 1: what I've been listening to is Simone's story and things
Speaker 1: that Simone has said. And for me, what's really struck
Speaker 1: in me, stricken me is when she said you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if people would see me beyond what
Speaker 1: I've accomplished in gymnastics. But I'm realizing from this outpouring
Speaker 1: of support that I am more than being a gymnast,
Speaker 1: and that really struck me because I feel like for
Speaker 1: a lot of us, our self worth is so tied
Speaker 1: up in the thing that we do. And this was
Speaker 1: very true for me. It's why I went that shit
Speaker 1: crazy when I was on maternity leave and I just
Speaker 1: didn't have a thing to do, you know, that job
Speaker 1: every day defining me, and I just found it really powerful.
Speaker 2: And I think.
Speaker 1: We're seeing like a young woman really come into her
Speaker 1: worth and really come in her own ownership of who
Speaker 1: she is and saying you don't own me, you don't
Speaker 1: make choices for me. And by the way, I have
Speaker 1: given my blood, sweat, bones and tears to the sport
Speaker 1: for her entire life, and for her to be able
Speaker 1: to step away from it, it just of course, she
Speaker 1: represented so much to our country, and we love some
Speaker 1: own but at the end of the day, she is
Speaker 1: so much more than that, and I'm really proud of
Speaker 1: what she's accomplished and what she's doing by showing people
Speaker 1: that there is a way to prioritize yourself and it
Speaker 1: does not make you, you know, any less of a champion.
Speaker 1: So shouts out to her. And let's not forget too
Speaker 1: that she survived molestation at the hands of a gymnast,
Speaker 1: a coach. You know, this huge industry American gymnast, what
Speaker 1: is it USA gymnast? Whatever they protected, yes, they protect,
Speaker 1: they did not protect her, and yet they expected her
Speaker 1: to come out and be some owne. Again, we talked
Speaker 1: about the loneliness of being a black woman who's dealing
Speaker 1: with you know who, just isn't the version of sparkly
Speaker 1: black girl magic that everyone wants to see. They don't
Speaker 1: want to really see us struggle or whine or complain.
Speaker 1: They want to see us be joyful and all the amazing, beautiful,
Speaker 1: sparkly things that we are. But she has been through
Speaker 1: so freaking much, I mean, plus a pandemic, plus like
Speaker 1: I said, like performing with injuries, and her body is tired.
Speaker 1: So I just I lift someone up and I just
Speaker 1: say thank you to what she's done. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see what she does in the future. And to
Speaker 1: anyone feeling like you are only defined by what you
Speaker 1: do day to day. You know, it's it's not easy
Speaker 1: to remember that, but I think Simon has reminded us that,
Speaker 1: you know, we have to because otherwise, like when you
Speaker 1: lose that job or that thing that you do, or
Speaker 1: you can't do it all of a sudden for something
Speaker 1: that's outside of your control, you still have to feel
Speaker 1: like your value you know, extends beyond that or else.
Speaker 1: That's how you kind of just spiral, right, So I
Speaker 1: hope you don't mind, Tiffany, No.
Speaker 2: I just said, like, I'm just so tired. I guess I
Speaker 2: saw so many people, not so many people, but like
Speaker 2: you know, people just coming out to someone like oh
Speaker 2: they were like it was a Carrie shrug or one
Speaker 2: of the young woman who like did her backflip on
Speaker 2: a broken foot.
Speaker 1: It was like years and years and years ago.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's right, let's encourage people to
Speaker 2: totally to put them in a position that they may
Speaker 2: never have to, never be able to walk again, just
Speaker 2: so you could see them on TV. Like what are
Speaker 2: we asking of people? You know what I mean? So
Speaker 2: I just was like, not that I want to hear
Speaker 2: about Simon's wins, obviously, it was just like it's just
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just so overwhelming or just so I'm over it.
Speaker 2: Speaking of I'm over it, I'm gonna break. That's a
Speaker 2: little whitehearted. But so I'm sure you have you ever
Speaker 2: heard of like, you know who Albonzo? Where Vieriro is
Speaker 2: carl Bonzo. Yes, Carlton Banks, Yes, sir Carlton do he
Speaker 2: has created a narrative where he So he did an
Speaker 2: interview I forget with whatever platform. I'm reading this from
Speaker 2: y'ah who Knews. So they picked it up and he said,
Speaker 2: I'm never going to be fully supported in the black house.
Speaker 2: This is like because he feels like that because of
Speaker 2: my you know, my role, He's not in. He says
Speaker 2: in quotes, I'm not enough, brother, And he said especially
Speaker 2: because of my I'm so, did you even know that
Speaker 2: Carlton Banks was married in the show or in like
Speaker 2: real in real life? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is he married to a white woman? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And he said, like you know, so he was just
Speaker 2: like yeah, like I you know, I am, and I'm
Speaker 2: also not going to be upsected exected in the in
Speaker 2: the black community because I'm in a mixed relationship and
Speaker 2: I'm married, you know, my wife is white. And I
Speaker 2: just was like Carlton, what the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 2: I literally he's like beloved like Maddy has have you
Speaker 2: ever heard you know, there are definitely certain black people
Speaker 2: that were like, ooh, child, like Terry Crews. Let's be real,
Speaker 2: we're all sick of his ship like, but honestly, I
Speaker 2: have never heard anyone say, you know who I dislike
Speaker 2: and hate that damn Carlton Banks, Like I mean, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like he doesn't come up, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, I mean, we all love
Speaker 2: fresh prince. And the truth of the matter is Carlton
Speaker 2: Banks is when I didn't even know he was married,
Speaker 2: I mean I guess I assumed he was married, and
Speaker 2: quite honestly, when I found out that his wife was white,
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, that sounds right. You know, he
Speaker 2: seems like the type to be married to a white woman.
Speaker 2: Like nothing in a bad way, just because Carlton is, like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not unusual. We like I'm not. I mean,
Speaker 2: there are some men that you.
Speaker 1: Was hoping me get to that part, yes, like you know,
Speaker 1: like so there is a caricature.
Speaker 2: He's not his character, yeah, but meaning like he all
Speaker 2: a lot of that rubs off on his like, you know,
Speaker 2: how you perceive him to be in in his real life.
Speaker 2: So because of that, I'm not surprised by that it
Speaker 2: wasn't There's some men you're like, oh really, oh okay.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like, for example, Danzel, if Danzel's wife was white,
Speaker 2: I might be like Danzel's wife is white. Oh, I
Speaker 2: would have never thought. If you say Carlton Bank's wife
Speaker 2: is white, You're like, duh, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So like I just think, like I'm like, what is
Speaker 2: his fake narrative? So first of all, I just love
Speaker 2: black Twitter They're like, what in the what the hell
Speaker 2: are you talking about? Carlton? They're literally dragging him for nobody.
Speaker 2: Nobody has cared car like you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like literally it's never come up. So many people didn't
Speaker 2: even know that his wife was white, and they're like,
Speaker 2: we don't care, Carlton, and we've never not supported you,
Speaker 2: you know, because honestly we've loved Fresh Prince, your beloved
Speaker 2: character on Fresh Prince, and I remember he before that.
Speaker 2: I forget other things that he's been in, Like I
Speaker 2: just don't. There are some people, yes, or like I
Speaker 2: remember like Chrissette Michelle, Remember she like performed for the
Speaker 2: Trump inauguration, right, So like there was a concerted effort
Speaker 2: to say we're mad at Chrissette Michelle. We you know,
Speaker 2: we knew that, and people are like, okay, but like
Speaker 2: there's I've never heard you know what, you know one
Speaker 2: of the people we don't mess with Carlton begs our fonds,
Speaker 2: So you're not welcome to the barbecue. So I'm just
Speaker 2: like I can see that, you know, I don't know
Speaker 2: what it looks like day to day when he's walking out,
Speaker 2: you know, because I know that, you know, maybe he's
Speaker 2: saying like because that when he's like out to restaurants
Speaker 2: or dinner whatever, maybe you're getting looks because you're in
Speaker 2: a in a mixed relationship. But I feel like on
Speaker 2: a whole, like literally black Twitter was like, what is
Speaker 2: Carlton talking about? What is this made up narrative? Nobody
Speaker 2: dislikes you? It's you know what I mean? Like I
Speaker 2: just don't even know. I just yeah, so I just
Speaker 2: thought that was like crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't ever want to discount someone's feelings,
Speaker 1: Like maybe he has felt like an outsider in those
Speaker 1: like if he's if he's tried to move in those circles,
Speaker 1: you know. But listen, I think that there are so
Speaker 1: many versions of being black in America that even black
Speaker 1: people amongst ourselves, we sometimes can be othered by our
Speaker 1: own people. I mean, you're talking to a biracial woman
Speaker 1: right now, and I can tell you, uh, I am,
Speaker 1: I'm I had I've become very comfortable with who I am,
Speaker 1: But there are plenty of times I have felt not
Speaker 1: something enough. I mean, that's just Tailor's old as time
Speaker 1: for anybody. And you being you know, Nigerian America, I'd
Speaker 1: be surprised if you said there was never a time
Speaker 1: where you didn't feel like Black American enough, or to
Speaker 1: like misreferences or something like that. Like there's just all
Speaker 1: these different intersections of identity. And I mean, I certainly
Speaker 1: feel like I would love him to come to any
Speaker 1: like be can my barbecue? He would be a hit
Speaker 1: at any black barbecue. Can you imagine your host is
Speaker 1: a black barbecue and Carlton showed up, Like I was saying.
Speaker 2: Like, I feel like the black community loves Carlton. That's
Speaker 2: why I'm just like yeah, yeah, yeah, And but but
Speaker 2: to your point, and also too, I think maybe maybe
Speaker 2: his day to day experience is like in real life,
Speaker 2: meaning like you know, like culture on a whole. I
Speaker 2: don't know that that's the sentiment that like you know
Speaker 2: that you know, like I said, like I literally remember
Speaker 2: when it came out, I was like, let me see
Speaker 2: a black peeto talking about They were like what Carlsore,
Speaker 2: we love you know black children is vicious and they
Speaker 2: were like what truth tellers, Yeah, we love you like
Speaker 2: we don't. I We're not surprised by your white wife.
Speaker 2: Nobody cares, you know, and two like you're a beloved
Speaker 2: character in this show that we literally we all love
Speaker 2: fresh Prince and you know. And but I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that like maybe what he's saying in Hollywood, like there's
Speaker 2: certain you know, because he hasn't quite fit like he
Speaker 2: you know, the roles that would normally go to like
Speaker 2: maybe a black man haven't gone to him, and then
Speaker 2: roles that would go to white man he wouldn't go
Speaker 2: to him too. So maybe I'm sure obviously I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that what he's saying is not ballan. I guess
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like to like brusted with a broad stroke,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I've literally never heard anyone say, Carlton Banks,
Speaker 2: you know, Alfonso was canceled because we don't like him.
Speaker 1: That's what I was afraid you were going to say
Speaker 1: when you said that, have you heard of Alfonso? No?
Speaker 2: I was just like, wow, I need you to go
Speaker 2: to some therapy, like the black.
Speaker 1: People do a follow up and like offer more yeah,
Speaker 1: more context.
Speaker 2: But I feel like I remember that what was that
Speaker 2: that they remember Dave Chappelle when they had like their
Speaker 2: and they had to race Olympics where basically remember you
Speaker 2: had to like choose like racial draft or something. I
Speaker 2: feel like nobody nobody was giving away call to it.
Speaker 2: We love you ca.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, well that was a good one. That's a
Speaker 1: thought provoking one. I hope, you know, I hope that
Speaker 1: he he. I hope they drag him too.
Speaker 2: Bad, just for him, like literally nobody was You're black
Speaker 2: enough to be dragged? Yes, telling him as much as
Speaker 2: they were, like what is he talking about? We love you?
Speaker 2: So yeah, hopefully he'll see that and be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: you who like to be loved by anyone to.
Speaker 1: Get to pay for the rights. So this please don't.
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