WEBVTT - EP 277: Black Women Can be Introverts, too! 

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<v Speaker 2>Hey hey, Hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown and

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<v Speaker 2>ba shine.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Mandraye, good to see your lovely face. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just thinking, wouldn't it be awkward if we were the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. I definitely have that T shirt your special.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about the generational wealth for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's exactly what it says. There you go. I

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<v Speaker 2>love that right, my my special. I mean they're not

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<v Speaker 2>for sale anymore, but you know I did that like

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<v Speaker 2>that special drop with Messing a Bottle on my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>BlackGirl Entrepreneurs. Shout out to you, Khalil L. Wright, Who's

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<v Speaker 2>got that awesome If you don't follow mess in a

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<v Speaker 2>Bottle on ig, you ought to. She's got really awesome

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<v Speaker 2>T shirts and things that have like really just like

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<v Speaker 2>fun and moving messages. And it comes to this dope

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<v Speaker 2>reusable bottle that I actually was just driving drinking lemonade

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<v Speaker 2>out of earlier today. So yeah, it's awesome. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>been do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>It's my birthday week, so I'm feeling I'm feeling very

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<v Speaker 1>Leo and I am leaning all the way into my

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<v Speaker 1>leonis this week. I've got my party all plan. I

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<v Speaker 1>know Superman he's having his little well.

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<v Speaker 2>This weekend, this past this week, cause we're again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Friday the sixth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, his birthday is tomorrow the third. But yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>had our party. It was and went really well. It

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<v Speaker 2>just was like such a good time. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>a barbecue and all his family and friends came and

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<v Speaker 2>also his twin as well, and so it just was

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<v Speaker 2>it was everything. They were just like so great with

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, Tiffany, that was so amazing, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, now we're all friends, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>planning a party can be like I hate everybody, but

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<v Speaker 2>now we're all thirty percent of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's gone. Now you did it.

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<v Speaker 2>You win.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm really hard to please. I keep trying to

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<v Speaker 1>let Husbie plan stuff. But it's been almost ten years now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just don't know if I'm ever gonna change.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know. But listen, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you went through this. I'm kind of going through an

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<v Speaker 1>awkward situation now because you know, I planned this party

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<v Speaker 1>two months ago. I think I sent out invites and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've realized that some folks, a friend and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a good friend who I invited, hasn't been vaccinated, nor

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<v Speaker 1>has her family. And I'm kind of in this awkward

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<v Speaker 1>situation now where I decided I'm going to disinvite them

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<v Speaker 1>just because, yeah, I know, I told you that. I

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<v Speaker 1>even you know, it sounds so dramatic to say I

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<v Speaker 1>let the dog walker go. But our neighbor kid, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager and he's been walking Molly for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>He just refuses to get vaccinated. His parents have. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, yeah, you know, like we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get sick or whatever. It doesn't really hurt teenager. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just like dumb kid, you know. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, listen, we joke about it. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>offered him one hundred bucks in my damnself before the government,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, said we should maybe do as an incentive.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'll give you a hundred bucks, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>go get the vaccine. You can, like, it's not even

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<v Speaker 1>that far. You don't have to even have an appointment anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. Anyway, he didn't do it, so I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, listen, you know, I'll walk Mollie until you

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<v Speaker 1>get vaccinated. Deuces. So the thing is with this new

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<v Speaker 1>delta variant, and I've been it seems like the news

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<v Speaker 1>has gotten a little bit worse each day for the

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<v Speaker 1>past month, and we're at the point now where even

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<v Speaker 1>if you're vaccinated, I do not want to. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just say all the science still shows vaccines

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<v Speaker 1>are the way to go. Y'all, go get your sticks. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>They will still prevent you from getting really ill, They

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<v Speaker 1>can be extremely effective from getting other people sick, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. They really truly work. And the only the

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<v Speaker 1>best vaccine you can get is the one that's available

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<v Speaker 1>to you. You know, just get anyone that you can get. However,

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<v Speaker 1>some research has or you know, they've they've been following

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<v Speaker 1>these kind of breakout cases where people who are vaccinated

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<v Speaker 1>are getting sick and they found that, like we used

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<v Speaker 1>to think that when you got the vaccine, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't have enough virus in you to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to pass that on to other people. But they are

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that people who have the vaccine can pass it on.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it was just my if it was just

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<v Speaker 1>my immediate family, it's outdoor fair. I think I would

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<v Speaker 1>be okay with it. But we're inviting you know, relatives,

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<v Speaker 1>elderly relatives from my husband's side, and people with kids

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<v Speaker 1>who I just feel like, as a responsible host, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I should do is just make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone is as safe as possible. And god forbid,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one of those you know, birthday parties who turns

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<v Speaker 1>into like, you know, an event where there's all these cases.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just really awkward. So my heart goes out

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<v Speaker 1>to anybody who's in these awkward social situations. Again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just feeling a lot like twenty twenty up in here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, of course, like it was crazy because I remember

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<v Speaker 2>that at first, you know, Superman did not I want

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<v Speaker 2>to get vaccinated. He's like, what if we turn into zombies?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, shut up, you know, I know he met

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<v Speaker 2>he just met, Like what if there's like some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like and I'm like, well, there will be zombies together.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's like a vax snob, like they didn't get vaccinated.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, bra, just not too long ago. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to threaten you to get violated. That got the fuze

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<v Speaker 2>or now because like I invited my parents to like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he invited my parents to there to his

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<v Speaker 2>party and they were like, yeah, no, we're not coming

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<v Speaker 2>out yet because my dad is eighty and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>m too soon, And so I can understand. And now

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<v Speaker 2>I see he has like a work, his work, his

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<v Speaker 2>work father that he's retired, that his name is Ron,

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<v Speaker 2>and Ron is like in his seventies and he's come

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<v Speaker 2>to every other party. But he was like nah, like

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm vaccinated, but it's too soon and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to take the risk. So no, I totally I totally

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's it is worrisome. I mean we're all,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, vaccinated, we're actually getting Supergirl vaccinate because she's fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay mm hmm, yeah, okay, I mean my friend

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<v Speaker 1>has valid The thing is, this is not a person

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<v Speaker 1>who you would ever suspect to be hesitant, but for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she's done her research. She's extremely smart, she's

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<v Speaker 1>very thoughtful. She has teenage and young sons, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of her reasons and even though her teenagers are eligible

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<v Speaker 1>like Supergirl is now, you know, there's been some concern

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<v Speaker 1>and about the impact on young boys and all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's being very thoughtful. And at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, we did have a conversation and I did

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<v Speaker 1>my level best to gently talk to her and like

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<v Speaker 1>be understanding and empathetic. But I truly am really frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>by anyone who's just not getting the vaccine. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna you know, I'm not the CDC, obviously, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just a couple of people living in this world. But

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<v Speaker 1>we will post in the show notes a link to

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<v Speaker 1>the latest research, the latest science that shows the vaccine's work,

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<v Speaker 1>and a link for you to get an appointment in

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<v Speaker 1>your area, because we can't go back, y'all. We cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only way we're going to move forward to

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<v Speaker 1>normalcy so I can have my dang birthday party next

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<v Speaker 1>year too, just does not just about me, is if

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<v Speaker 1>people get vaccinated and take it seriously, and if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get vaxxed and everybody, you know, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you are vaccinated. Where a damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Ma mask it up?

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<v Speaker 1>And this concludes your science, your science moment for the day.

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<v Speaker 1>What else is going on? We're gonna talk about simone.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just feel like exhausted about, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the bashing of black women. That's why I like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not on social hardly. No, But I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you, have you ever been to like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like these high level networking events. It costs like

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<v Speaker 2>like a bunch of money to go. Like there's one

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<v Speaker 2>in particular that I'm considering that my business coach suggested.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like four days, it's in New Orleans. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's it's and they don't they like to say

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<v Speaker 2>it's not networking. It's just connecting with people who you know,

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<v Speaker 2>who are entrepreneurs doing amazing things. And it's a no

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<v Speaker 2>pitch zone, so you know, people are not pitching you

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<v Speaker 2>to like sign up for this so by this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>because I've been to something like that before and that really,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, did not sit well with me. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it's not cheap. It's like ten thousand dollars and so

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<v Speaker 2>it happens, and so I know, it's really because the

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<v Speaker 2>types of relationships that you get to build, that's the premise,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, are ones that will totally outweigh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of the ten thousand dollars. You know, folks there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, have built one hundred million dollar businesses are running,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like like some of the names, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, I read that name in the news,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And what's supposed to set this one apart

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<v Speaker 2>is especially that they're not that they're really looking for

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<v Speaker 2>like kind, integrity filled entrepreneurs, Like you're not. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>come there and be rude. They make it a conscious

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<v Speaker 2>effort that they ask the staff at the hotel, They

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<v Speaker 2>asked the you know, your writer, like they decide whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not to invite you back based upon how you

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<v Speaker 2>treat have you treated other people? They have like a

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<v Speaker 2>forrung approach, which I like, so you know sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's what really like interests me, Like hmmm, I

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<v Speaker 2>like the fact that kindness is high on the scale

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<v Speaker 2>of like no, no, no, You're not got to come

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<v Speaker 2>here as a big shot and think that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to treat people poorly. If you do that, you won't

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<v Speaker 2>be invited back. So I was like on the fence

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<v Speaker 2>because my coach, you know, invited me. I got it interviewed,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they accepted me. So I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know, but now I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe because honestly, the truth is, I said, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to start to expand my capacity for what's possible when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to growing professionally. And I never really was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I never joined a sorority. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, I'm not usually one for

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<v Speaker 2>organized sports. Oh well that's that's not true. I played tennis,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's different. But yeah, I just I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>huh should I? But then I said to this, this

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<v Speaker 2>is what you asked for that like you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't you only know as much as you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and if you want to like expand like

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<v Speaker 2>what's possible and expand like my capacity for like oh

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even think that was reasonable. Oh someone else

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<v Speaker 2>has done that. Member, Like I was telling you how

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<v Speaker 2>I've got this business that I'm working on and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm trying to wrap my mind around it. And

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<v Speaker 2>we mentioned that like a friend of ours has sold

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<v Speaker 2>his business for like, I don't know, thirty forty million dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, let me speak with him

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<v Speaker 2>because I forgot that because I know I might be

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<v Speaker 2>thinking like, oh, it's so overwhelming, and it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to someone who's done it helps to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of erase some of the mystery. So that's really like

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<v Speaker 2>the point is that you really get to connect with

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<v Speaker 2>good people, build relationships that might eventually turn into something

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<v Speaker 2>more professionally or just even personally, might just create some

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<v Speaker 2>really great friendships, you know, but in doing so, you

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<v Speaker 2>start to just expose yourself to just a different level

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<v Speaker 2>of professional achievement, you know. And so like yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I was on the fence about it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was just wondering if you've ever been to like whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, a version of like the next level

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<v Speaker 2>of networking as related. So because I remember you said

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<v Speaker 2>like you you were part of like a journalist like right, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing, I was just about to say, this sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful opportunity, and it also sounds like you already

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<v Speaker 1>know that you want to go, and you're going to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I was I'm not gonna lie. Part of me was

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<v Speaker 2>like is this, I asked him. I'm like, is it

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<v Speaker 2>very bro culture? I said, I'm not interested.

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<v Speaker 1>In Like do they let you see who's gonna be there?

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<v Speaker 1>But they probably don't want to entice people just based

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<v Speaker 1>on names, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Well he showed me some people, but he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>and my coaches isn't he's he's Asian. And he was like, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>I would not have invited you. It was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was like, not really interested, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, no, it's not that at all, as

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<v Speaker 2>it said.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, no, I I think it's great. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that as you know, adults, it's harder and harder

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<v Speaker 1>to have those those constructed opportunities to meet, mix and mingle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this sounds wonderful. I mean for me, I did

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<v Speaker 1>do through my company, well not through my company. I

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<v Speaker 1>applied and got into a special cohort of business journalists

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<v Speaker 1>and people in the business journalism world, even when I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, technically not in traditional reporting anymore. It's when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a senior director in content marketing. But that

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<v Speaker 1>it was a it was a week long, intensive, all

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<v Speaker 1>day you're with It's like summer camp for journalism. Senior

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<v Speaker 1>director nerds or whatever, and it was so amazing. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it cost a couple thousand dollars, which because I

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, it was a management training. It was

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<v Speaker 1>specifically about helping you know, people who are maybe going

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<v Speaker 1>from a reporter to now managing teams as editor in

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<v Speaker 1>chiefs and et cetera, kind of giving us the tools

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<v Speaker 1>that we needed to bridge that gap and skills. And

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it was a couple of thousand dollars an

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<v Speaker 1>I I had that comped or covered by my company,

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<v Speaker 1>which is which is a possibility, but it sounds to

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<v Speaker 1>me like budget needs to ink would probably approve this

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<v Speaker 1>expense for your professional development healthy. Yeah, it's ten k

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<v Speaker 1>in the grand scheme of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, you're right. I think it was less about

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<v Speaker 2>the money and more since New Orleans, I know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna lie that was the kind of thing thing

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<v Speaker 2>maybe saying either way, it's a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was more like that's our place, remember, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>A long walks along. I know we like stacked by

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<v Speaker 2>the river. We were like yes, and so yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was less about the cost. Honestly, to your point,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, I know, budgets to pay for it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just more I don't think people realize how

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<v Speaker 2>as much as it seems like I'm extroverted, it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like that because I know Mandy and that's she's my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>That like, I'm actually more, way more shy than people

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<v Speaker 2>like recognize that. Like if I'm in a space or

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<v Speaker 2>a room where I don't know people, then I'm like mute,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And so I was just a little nervous

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<v Speaker 2>about that because like I didn't know. I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>was just where This is what I told Zion, my coach,

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<v Speaker 2>like what, like what's the expectation for like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>cause I didn't want to have to perform basically, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Just gonna say, it's fucking exhausting to be an introverted

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<v Speaker 1>black woman sometimes because you get into a room and

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, oh hey, Like when you were like

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<v Speaker 1>one of the few at the at the at the

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<v Speaker 1>wedding or at the party, it's like, oh hey girl, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be on that dance for later, right yeah. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And You're like, maybe I just don't want to dance,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe I'm just quiet. You know, it's lonely out here.

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<v Speaker 2>For black women. Introverts.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why you and I connected to start with,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're at this big conference and we're just like

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<v Speaker 1>you talking me, Okay, let's go escape.

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<v Speaker 2>Escape. It's so I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. It's like one of the microaggressions that

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<v Speaker 1>we face as people just thinking we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the life of.

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<v Speaker 2>The party yet, and that's exactly what I'm just like, so,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna go because I'm going to stretch beyond

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<v Speaker 2>my you know, my growth yup. And I'm just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because like I said, I spoke design today. He was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, it's not bro culture. It's okay to be shy,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, because I don't want to be penalized

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<v Speaker 2>like she doesn't talk. And you never know, if I

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<v Speaker 2>feel really comfortable, I might, you know, But if I don't,

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<v Speaker 2>if I just been feeling a little shy, I might not.

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<v Speaker 2>I might just be doing a lot more you know, listening.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that was just like I'm excited though, because

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities like that are starting to arise and I, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really I'm working on a lot more personal development, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and it feels good. That's one of the things I

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<v Speaker 2>had my last call with doctor Green, my you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my personal coach. I was like totally and she's like, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing you came for, which is so crazy. I

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<v Speaker 2>came after we had arbage journey in monic Christina on.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, they seem super connected to joy. I

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<v Speaker 2>felt it was visceral. I was like, is that what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like because I'm not as connected and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be. And I literally found her was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want that feeling that they were emoting, and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel that now and I am a little nervous about

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<v Speaker 2>maintaining it. You know. That was like one of my

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<v Speaker 2>you know, worries. And she's like, you have the tools,

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<v Speaker 2>you have, the how you have, the why you're ready,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was just like, I just feel like it

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<v Speaker 2>isn't like coaching and therapy's supposed to last forever. She's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you, especially if you have a goal, it's

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<v Speaker 2>possible to meet your goal. And I'm really proud of

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<v Speaker 2>you because you leaned in. And she's like, the cap

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<v Speaker 2>was the six weeks off because it really helped to

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<v Speaker 2>take all the tools that we've been working on and

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<v Speaker 2>you put them to work and here we are. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I guess, so, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Even a Moan and Christina aren't that joyful every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure like you can have your down days. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just the one thing I have learned from

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<v Speaker 1>lots and lots of therapy, especially when it comes to anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>is just reminding yourself feelings are not forever. Yeah, moments

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<v Speaker 1>are not forever. Like two weekends ago when or was

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<v Speaker 1>it last weekend, It's all a blur. When Rio was

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<v Speaker 1>he had the worst like cold or RSV or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it was, and it felt so much like the newborn phase.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, oh, no, I think I have I

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<v Speaker 1>can't go back there. I think I have PTSD. This

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<v Speaker 1>is just feeling and I almost lost it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I just was like, chance, it's like an internal monologue

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<v Speaker 1>that my tool is this is a moment in time.

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<v Speaker 1>It will get better, it will get better, it will

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<v Speaker 1>get better. So I you know, I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's natural to be fearful of the other shoe dropping.

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly am always kind of having to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be aware that that's how I operate. Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>things are going good now, but what happens when or

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when but you know, you know that you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the tools you need to bounce back. And that

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<v Speaker 1>comes that applies to Joy too, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, she's like, you have the tool, sidany you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, see you next number.

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<v Speaker 2>I do. And she's like, if you ever need to

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<v Speaker 2>get back, I was like, I dually noted, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>this exciting thing happened. So, I don't know, have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard of Jeff Walker in this book called Launch?

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<v Speaker 1>No, so, La, You've been teaching me a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>books lately. I don't know half the books you talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just jealous of all your reading. Well tell

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<v Speaker 1>me all about Jeff. What do I need to know?

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<v Speaker 2>So? Jeff Walker I started this this like marketing strategy

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<v Speaker 2>called product launch theory or product launch strategy anyway. So

0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.360
<v Speaker 2>he he did it for himself and he thought, well,

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<v Speaker 2>other people must be doing this as well, and he

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<v Speaker 2>quickly realized that nobody else was launching in this way.

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<v Speaker 2>Launching meaning you have a product or service and you

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<v Speaker 2>want to bring it to market. You want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>like think about it like rolling out a movie or

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<v Speaker 2>like an album that's coming out. You know, they get

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<v Speaker 2>you outcited and it comes out. He was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people don't know how to launch their product or service.

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<v Speaker 2>So he created product launch theory or strategy, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote a book about it some years ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>it did really well. It hit New York Times, it

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<v Speaker 2>was number one on the New York Times Best Sellers list,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sold a ton it. Honestly, almost every digital

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<v Speaker 2>marketer or online marketer that I know, they use his

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<v Speaker 2>product launch strategy just because it just works so well.

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<v Speaker 2>They used part all our whole. And so when I

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<v Speaker 2>first I first learned about him because Jabrill, my business

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<v Speaker 2>partner in my school of the Liberatary Academy, told me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know when we're right before we were launching the Academy,

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<v Speaker 2>you should read this book and we should. This is

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of like the template of how to launch.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, okay, So we launched. We used like

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<v Speaker 2>his strategy to the tea in the first thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, like I remember distinctly, I was still like

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<v Speaker 2>in my old apartment with Jarell in the halfway hood.

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<v Speaker 2>Jabrill actually Camember Jabrill actually came in like he like

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<v Speaker 2>he came in that day like six am in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>We were like, and we're sitting, like, the three of

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<v Speaker 2>us are sitting in front of the computer. The numbers

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<v Speaker 2>are going to thirty thousand dollars and thirty minutes. And

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<v Speaker 2>because Jibro had seen numbers like that before, but can

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<v Speaker 2>you imagine, Jirell was like and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>used to make thirty thousand dollars me. It was crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I just remember thinking it was amazing. So

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<v Speaker 2>since then, I've used his system over and over. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was on Amazon maybe like a year or two ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and Amazon reminded me, you never wrote a review for

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<v Speaker 2>the book. So I went to write a review and

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<v Speaker 2>I named it. I said, like, this book launched me

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<v Speaker 2>into an eight figure of year business. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>explained how in the you know, because I saw some

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<v Speaker 2>people were like, this is a scam, it can't be

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<v Speaker 2>true and whatever, and I was like, these are people

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<v Speaker 2>who have not read the book. Is it a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of work? Certainly, but it works. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know Jeff, and they're like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like he's trying to upsell you to his other

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<v Speaker 2>other product products. And honestly, I didn't feel that way

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<v Speaker 2>when I read the book, and maybe he does mention

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<v Speaker 2>that he has other stuff, and I said, I literally

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<v Speaker 2>have never paid for anything else other than this fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>dollar book. So and it changed, it changed the trajectory

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<v Speaker 2>of my life. So anyway, I wrote that in the

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<v Speaker 2>arm review. Jeff emails me six week months later. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, he's a house just yes, after reading

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<v Speaker 2>I guess he must have saw the and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the the review and then and then my name on

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<v Speaker 2>on on Amazon is the budget LISTA. So it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>that hard to find it. So he says, hey, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Tiffany, thank you so much for your amazing review.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to like jump on a call with you,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm right, I'm doing an updated version of Launch

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<v Speaker 2>and I would love to include you and maybe as

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<v Speaker 2>a case study. I was like, what say less? So

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<v Speaker 2>then so he said, you know, he said that. But

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<v Speaker 2>then we were we just kept missing each other and

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<v Speaker 2>almost like I felt like a year went by, and

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<v Speaker 2>then finally I was like, let me hit jump up again.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like, oh, my gosh, should be dang

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<v Speaker 2>already finished the book, and I was like no, because

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be included. He was like, but we

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<v Speaker 2>should still jump on a call. So we did.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a book baby that last year too, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly so I knew exactly how much work you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and how inundated you could be. So we jumped on

0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:56.399
<v Speaker 2>a call anyway, and he was just like so amazed

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<v Speaker 2>by you know, the trajectory of the business, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from like me being a priest teacher to like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>grow creating the eight figure of your business. And he

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, Dang, I wish I could have included

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<v Speaker 2>you because I think it's important for people to see

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<v Speaker 2>because you didn't come from the business world, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's important for people to see, like you know

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<v Speaker 2>that it's possible to do this without any prior background.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, but you know what, I would love to

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<v Speaker 2>include your your review maybe, like you know, like in

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<v Speaker 2>the book somewhere. And I was like, oh fine, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking like a blurb of the review. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>on Amazon the other day and Amazon again was like, hey, Tiffany,

0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.280
<v Speaker 2>this launch book is out. I'm like, oh, Jeff's book

0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.879
<v Speaker 2>it just it just literally launched last week. And I said, okay,

0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:38.080
<v Speaker 2>So as I'm scrolling up inside the like on his

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<v Speaker 2>on the Amazon page where his book is. It's my

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<v Speaker 2>picture in my my review. I was like, oh he

0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:45.680
<v Speaker 2>put it like on his author thing page or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, that's awesome, and I said, well,

0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:49.720
<v Speaker 2>let me support and order the book. I ordered the book.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets here, girl. Why I'm opening up the page

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<v Speaker 2>right after the tape of contents is my review and

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<v Speaker 2>a huge picture of me. I was like, wait what

0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:01.600
<v Speaker 2>he put me in the app? So book girl, I

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 2>was like.

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<v Speaker 1>You made it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just such a you know, like a full

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<v Speaker 2>circle moment of like I just left the review because

0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:13.200
<v Speaker 2>it really helped me, and like I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how to describe like who Jeff Walker is to this,

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:20.639
<v Speaker 2>to this kind of online business community. He is like

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<v Speaker 2>one of like he is a thought leader and a

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<v Speaker 2>guru so to be like to be in his book,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, I mean he advises people like Michael Hyatt

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<v Speaker 2>of like the Hya you know, like and so it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like what I could not believe. And it's like

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany the Budget lista Leach, author of Get Good with Money.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, thank you for the ad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, talk about their free marketing.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude. I know, like honestly, I could not believe. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I could not believe I was in the book.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I tell you a huge picture, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the whole page. I'm like you would think like, well

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:58.640
<v Speaker 2>did she write this book? Because it's right at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>so you got the you have the book.

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<v Speaker 1>There we can be.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying, you know, I know I was thinking of it's

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<v Speaker 2>in my bedroom upstairs, but but yeah, I was just thinking,

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 2>like it's just one of those things where it's just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was trying telling Zion today that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if I if there is a mantra or

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:15.679
<v Speaker 2>a motto that I'm wanting for life, is that I

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 2>just want a life well lived, you know, like the

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 2>fullness of whatever that looks like. And things like this,

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, that was you know, like a left

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<v Speaker 2>review because it was a good book and for it

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 2>to turn into this, and I feel like if you

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 2>just let you know, if you pour all the good

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 2>things in, things will start to unfold, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a.

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<v Speaker 1>Kindness, yes, just talking about kindness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because literally it's the key. I thought to myself

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<v Speaker 2>it was unfair that they were leaving those nasty reviews

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.440
<v Speaker 2>because that wasn't true. So I felt like because normally

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I probably just would have said great book, but I

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know what, No, I'm going to show

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<v Speaker 2>like I really broke down like the three different, three

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 2>or four different launches that I did and how they worked,

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 2>because I wanted people to know, like, no, that's not true.

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Someone's writing this because maybe they're angry because you know,

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.199
<v Speaker 2>they haven't got through the book or they didn't do

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 2>all the work. But you're right, like, literally, that's all

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 2>that was, and now look how it like unfolds, and

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, life can just be such like this hard

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.719
<v Speaker 2>but amazing thing all the same time. But I definitely

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 2>was like, I can't believe I'm in Jeff Walker's book,

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 2>Like it doesn't I don't have the worst to describe

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 2>what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Tiffany, you're just like magic fairy dust to summerfies

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 1>sometimes like but no, I mean those genuine, little those

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>genuine moments of kindness I think propel or if you

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<v Speaker 1>really get down to the root of the most successful,

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>genuinely successful people that people still want to be around

0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>and have good lives, I think it's got to be kindness.

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's teachable or what. But I'm

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 1>not surprised at all that. I mean, from the from

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:47.399
<v Speaker 1>from the from the jump, You've always been, you know,

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:51.400
<v Speaker 1>very authentic and very kind. And I certainly I leave

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>reviews for podcasts all the time because I know what

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>it's like to read reviews for your show and feel

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:59.400
<v Speaker 1>like they're a little unfair. So and I think it's

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 1>just a good mess. It's just to tell people what

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>impact they've had on you. You don't know, you know, where

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:07.120
<v Speaker 1>they may be in their lives. They may they may

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 1>need to hear it, and that's really beautiful. I might

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 1>need to go get that book now.

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 2>They don't need to hear We don't want to hear

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 2>about cho Ivy of Journey. Remember that that was I

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.880
<v Speaker 2>wonder if that lady's like, I'm sorry, Okay, she.

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Was having a bad day. Listen, she was having a

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 1>bad day. But that's why there's always going to be

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 1>that negativity out there. But we need y'all to go

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>leave us a review. Yeah, I'm going to bring it

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>back to leaving us a review, Leave us a review.

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to get to two thousand. I think

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:39.719
<v Speaker 1>we're only like one hundred and fifty away. But you

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>can just right here right now. We get millions of downloads, y'all.

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I know you're listening, and I know you're on a

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 1>smartphone right now, you can just click rate and review

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>wherever you're listening. It takes like two seconds. Okay, all right,

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>well congrats Tive. That's freaking amazing and not surprising base

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:00.399
<v Speaker 1>on what I know of you.

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, well, now it's time for booster break for

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 2>all our family. Are you gonna boot? Are you gonna break?

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 2>What you're gonna do, what you're gonna do, What you're

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna what you're gonna do, Mandy, what you're gonna do?

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel more self conscious singing now that we

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 1>can see each other now?

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:39.199
<v Speaker 2>Actually, I feel it's actually better because, oh maybe got

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 2>the rhythm? Come on, Mandy makes me want to dance.

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>And I'm at my standing desk and I just can't

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>like stop, like, yes.

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna ask you. I'm like, are you standing because

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you look like.

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Your stand standing? Yes, And I'm I'm just sitting at

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>that desk for hours. I was writing an article this morning.

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>It took me like two hours. So yes, I'm stretching

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:59.919
<v Speaker 1>my legs but I am going to do a boost.

0:27:59.920 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 1>I know you said you don't want to talk about it,

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's my boost and you cannot take it away

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>from me. Okay, I'm gonna boost Simone Biles. When we

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>recorded last week, Simone had I think at that point

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 1>she had done not so great at like a preliminary event,

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>and since then there has been a lot of movements,

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 1>and you guys probably know at this point Simone, I

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>think there's one event left which she's supposed to compete in,

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and I don't even know when that is in Tokyo

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>time versus USA time, But she has withdrawn from all

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>these different events. And I listened to uh uh, there

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>was a New York Times podcast just going over to

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Simone's how she sort of got to this space, and

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I just thought, I thought what kept coming back to

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>me was the like And I know that there's been

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>there has been some negativity around Simone, like, oh, she's

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>done the unpatriotic thing she's supposed to represent America. But

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>what I've been listening to is Simone's story and things

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that Simone has said. And for me, what's really struck

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>in me, stricken me is when she said you know,

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure if people would see me beyond what

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I've accomplished in gymnastics. But I'm realizing from this outpouring

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>of support that I am more than being a gymnast,

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and that really struck me because I feel like for

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of us, our self worth is so tied

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>up in the thing that we do. And this was

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>very true for me. It's why I went that shit

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>crazy when I was on maternity leave and I just

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a thing to do, you know, that job

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>every day defining me, and I just found it really powerful.

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 2>And I think.

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<v Speaker 1>We're seeing like a young woman really come into her

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>worth and really come in her own ownership of who

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>she is and saying you don't own me, you don't

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>make choices for me. And by the way, I have

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>given my blood, sweat, bones and tears to the sport

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>for her entire life, and for her to be able

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to step away from it, it just of course, she

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>represented so much to our country, and we love some

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>own but at the end of the day, she is

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>so much more than that, and I'm really proud of

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>what she's accomplished and what she's doing by showing people

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>that there is a way to prioritize yourself and it

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>does not make you, you know, any less of a champion.

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>So shouts out to her. And let's not forget too

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>that she survived molestation at the hands of a gymnast,

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:30.719
<v Speaker 1>a coach. You know, this huge industry American gymnast, what

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>is it USA gymnast? Whatever they protected, yes, they protect,

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>they did not protect her, and yet they expected her

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>to come out and be some owne. Again, we talked

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>about the loneliness of being a black woman who's dealing

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>with you know who, just isn't the version of sparkly

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>black girl magic that everyone wants to see. They don't

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>want to really see us struggle or whine or complain.

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 1>They want to see us be joyful and all the amazing, beautiful,

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>sparkly things that we are. But she has been through

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>so freaking much, I mean, plus a pandemic, plus like

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I said, like performing with injuries, and her body is tired.

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>So I just I lift someone up and I just

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>say thank you to what she's done. I can't wait

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>to see what she does in the future. And to

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>anyone feeling like you are only defined by what you

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>do day to day. You know, it's it's not easy

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to remember that, but I think Simon has reminded us that,

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, we have to because otherwise, like when you

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>lose that job or that thing that you do, or

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you can't do it all of a sudden for something

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that's outside of your control, you still have to feel

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>like your value you know, extends beyond that or else.

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>That's how you kind of just spiral, right, So I

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 1>hope you don't mind, Tiffany, No.

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 2>I just said, like, I'm just so tired. I guess I

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 2>saw so many people, not so many people, but like

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, people just coming out to someone like oh

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 2>they were like it was a Carrie shrug or one

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 2>of the young woman who like did her backflip on

0:31:58.000 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 2>a broken foot.

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>It was like years and years and years ago.

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, that's right, let's encourage people to

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>totally to put them in a position that they may

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 2>never have to, never be able to walk again, just

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 2>so you could see them on TV. Like what are

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 2>we asking of people? You know what I mean? So

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I just was like, not that I want to hear

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 2>about Simon's wins, obviously, it was just like it's just

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's just so overwhelming or just so I'm over it.

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of I'm over it, I'm gonna break. That's a

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 2>little whitehearted. But so I'm sure you have you ever

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 2>heard of like, you know who Albonzo? Where Vieriro is

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 2>carl Bonzo. Yes, Carlton Banks, Yes, sir Carlton do he

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.479
<v Speaker 2>has created a narrative where he So he did an

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<v Speaker 2>interview I forget with whatever platform. I'm reading this from

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<v Speaker 2>y'ah who Knews. So they picked it up and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never going to be fully supported in the black house.

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.959
<v Speaker 2>This is like because he feels like that because of

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 2>my you know, my role, He's not in. He says

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<v Speaker 2>in quotes, I'm not enough, brother, And he said especially

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 2>because of my I'm so, did you even know that

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Carlton Banks was married in the show or in like

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 2>real in real life? Yeah?

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Is he married to a white woman? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, like you know, so he was just

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, like I you know, I am, and I'm

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 2>also not going to be upsected exected in the in

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 2>the black community because I'm in a mixed relationship and

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm married, you know, my wife is white. And I

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 2>just was like Carlton, what the hell are you talking about?

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>I literally he's like beloved like Maddy has have you

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 2>ever heard you know, there are definitely certain black people

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 2>that were like, ooh, child, like Terry Crews. Let's be real,

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 2>we're all sick of his ship like, but honestly, I

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 2>have never heard anyone say, you know who I dislike

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 2>and hate that damn Carlton Banks, Like I mean, you

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like he doesn't come up, you

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like, I mean, we all love

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 2>fresh prince. And the truth of the matter is Carlton

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Banks is when I didn't even know he was married,

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean I guess I assumed he was married, and

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 2>quite honestly, when I found out that his wife was white,

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, that sounds right. You know, he

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 2>seems like the type to be married to a white woman.

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Like nothing in a bad way, just because Carlton is, like,

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not unusual. We like I'm not. I mean,

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 2>there are some men that you.

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Was hoping me get to that part, yes, like you know,

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>like so there is a caricature.

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 2>He's not his character, yeah, but meaning like he all

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of that rubs off on his like, you know,

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 2>how you perceive him to be in in his real life.

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 2>So because of that, I'm not surprised by that it

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 2>wasn't There's some men you're like, oh really, oh okay.

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's like, for example, Danzel, if Danzel's wife was white,

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 2>I might be like Danzel's wife is white. Oh, I

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 2>would have never thought. If you say Carlton Bank's wife

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 2>is white, You're like, duh, you know what I mean?

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 2>So like I just think, like I'm like, what is

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 2>his fake narrative? So first of all, I just love

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 2>black Twitter They're like, what in the what the hell

0:34:54.960 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 2>are you talking about? Carlton? They're literally dragging him for nobody.

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Nobody has cared car like you know what I mean,

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Like literally it's never come up. So many people didn't

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 2>even know that his wife was white, and they're like,

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:11.240
<v Speaker 2>we don't care, Carlton, and we've never not supported you,

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, because honestly we've loved Fresh Prince, your beloved

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 2>character on Fresh Prince, and I remember he before that.

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I forget other things that he's been in, Like I

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:23.800
<v Speaker 2>just don't. There are some people, yes, or like I

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 2>remember like Chrissette Michelle, Remember she like performed for the

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Trump inauguration, right, So like there was a concerted effort

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 2>to say we're mad at Chrissette Michelle. We you know,

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 2>we knew that, and people are like, okay, but like

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 2>there's I've never heard you know what, you know one

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:42.280
<v Speaker 2>of the people we don't mess with Carlton begs our fonds,

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 2>So you're not welcome to the barbecue. So I'm just

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 2>like I can see that, you know, I don't know

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 2>what it looks like day to day when he's walking out,

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I know that, you know, maybe he's

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 2>saying like because that when he's like out to restaurants

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 2>or dinner whatever, maybe you're getting looks because you're in

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 2>a in a mixed relationship. But I feel like on

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 2>a whole, like literally black Twitter was like, what is

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Carlton talking about? What is this made up narrative? Nobody

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 2>dislikes you? It's you know what I mean? Like I

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:10.359
<v Speaker 2>just don't even know. I just yeah, so I just

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 2>thought that was like crazy.

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I don't ever want to discount someone's feelings,

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Like maybe he has felt like an outsider in those

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:22.280
<v Speaker 1>like if he's if he's tried to move in those circles,

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 1>you know. But listen, I think that there are so

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 1>many versions of being black in America that even black

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>people amongst ourselves, we sometimes can be othered by our

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.280
<v Speaker 1>own people. I mean, you're talking to a biracial woman

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>right now, and I can tell you, uh, I am,

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm I had I've become very comfortable with who I am,

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>But there are plenty of times I have felt not

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 1>something enough. I mean, that's just Tailor's old as time

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>for anybody. And you being you know, Nigerian America, I'd

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 1>be surprised if you said there was never a time

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>where you didn't feel like Black American enough, or to

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 1>like misreferences or something like that. Like there's just all

0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:02.760
<v Speaker 1>these different intersections of identity. And I mean, I certainly

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like I would love him to come to any

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 1>like be can my barbecue? He would be a hit

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 1>at any black barbecue. Can you imagine your host is

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.760
<v Speaker 1>a black barbecue and Carlton showed up, Like I was saying.

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Like, I feel like the black community loves Carlton. That's

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 2>why I'm just like yeah, yeah, yeah, And but but

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 2>to your point, and also too, I think maybe maybe

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 2>his day to day experience is like in real life,

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 2>meaning like you know, like culture on a whole. I

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know that that's the sentiment that like you know

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.800
<v Speaker 2>that you know, like I said, like I literally remember

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 2>when it came out, I was like, let me see

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:37.720
<v Speaker 2>a black peeto talking about They were like what Carlsore,

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 2>we love you know black children is vicious and they

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 2>were like what truth tellers, Yeah, we love you like

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 2>we don't. I We're not surprised by your white wife.

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Nobody cares, you know, and two like you're a beloved

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 2>character in this show that we literally we all love

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 2>fresh Prince and you know. And but I'm not saying

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 2>that like maybe what he's saying in Hollywood, like there's

0:37:57.840 --> 0:37:59.840
<v Speaker 2>certain you know, because he hasn't quite fit like he

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:01.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, the roles that would normally go to like

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe a black man haven't gone to him, and then

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 2>roles that would go to white man he wouldn't go

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 2>to him too. So maybe I'm sure obviously I'm not

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:09.879
<v Speaker 2>saying that what he's saying is not ballan. I guess

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, like to like brusted with a broad stroke,

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I've literally never heard anyone say, Carlton Banks,

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, Alfonso was canceled because we don't like him.

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was afraid you were going to say

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 1>when you said that, have you heard of Alfonso? No?

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, wow, I need you to go

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:27.840
<v Speaker 2>to some therapy, like the black.

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 1>People do a follow up and like offer more yeah,

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>more context.

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.399
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like I remember that what was that

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 2>that they remember Dave Chappelle when they had like their

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 2>and they had to race Olympics where basically remember you

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 2>had to like choose like racial draft or something. I

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 2>feel like nobody nobody was giving away call to it.

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 2>We love you ca.

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, well that was a good one. That's a

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>thought provoking one. I hope, you know, I hope that

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>he he. I hope they drag him too.

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Bad, just for him, like literally nobody was You're black

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 2>enough to be dragged? Yes, telling him as much as

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 2>they were, like what is he talking about? We love you?

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, hopefully he'll see that and be like, oh, okay,

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 2>you who like to be loved by anyone to.

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Get to pay for the rights. So this please don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's our show for today, that's our show.

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