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Speaker 2: Hey hey, Hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown and

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Speaker 1: Hey Mandraye, good to see your lovely face. I was

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Speaker 1: just thinking, wouldn't it be awkward if we were the

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Speaker 1: same thing. I definitely have that T shirt your special.

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Speaker 1: It's about the generational wealth for me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly what it says. There you go. I

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Speaker 2: love that right, my my special. I mean they're not

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Speaker 2: for sale anymore, but you know I did that like

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Speaker 2: got that awesome If you don't follow mess in a

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Speaker 2: Bottle on ig, you ought to. She's got really awesome

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Speaker 2: T shirts and things that have like really just like

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Speaker 2: fun and moving messages. And it comes to this dope

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Speaker 2: reusable bottle that I actually was just driving drinking lemonade

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Speaker 2: out of earlier today. So yeah, it's awesome. Have you

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Speaker 2: been do you know?

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Speaker 1: It's my birthday week, so I'm feeling I'm feeling very

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Speaker 1: Leo and I am leaning all the way into my

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Speaker 1: leonis this week. I've got my party all plan. I

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Speaker 1: know Superman he's having his little well.

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Speaker 2: This weekend, this past this week, cause we're again.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday the sixth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, his birthday is tomorrow the third. But yeah, we

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Speaker 2: had our party. It was and went really well. It

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Speaker 2: just was like such a good time. It was just

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Speaker 2: a barbecue and all his family and friends came and

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Speaker 2: also his twin as well, and so it just was

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Speaker 2: it was everything. They were just like so great with

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Speaker 2: They're like, Tiffany, that was so amazing, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, now we're all friends, because you know,

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Speaker 2: planning a party can be like I hate everybody, but

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Speaker 2: now we're all thirty percent of it.

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Speaker 1: Now it's gone. Now you did it.

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Speaker 2: You win.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm really hard to please. I keep trying to

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Speaker 1: let Husbie plan stuff. But it's been almost ten years now,

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Speaker 1: and I just don't know if I'm ever gonna change.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know. But listen, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you went through this. I'm kind of going through an

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Speaker 1: awkward situation now because you know, I planned this party

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Speaker 1: and I've realized that some folks, a friend and you know,

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Speaker 1: just because, yeah, I know, I told you that. I

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Speaker 1: even you know, it sounds so dramatic to say I

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Speaker 1: let the dog walker go. But our neighbor kid, he's

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Speaker 1: He just refuses to get vaccinated. His parents have. He's

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Speaker 1: just like, yeah, you know, like we're not going to

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Speaker 1: offered him one hundred bucks in my damnself before the government,

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Speaker 1: if you're vaccinated, I do not want to. First of all,

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Speaker 1: let me just say all the science still shows vaccines

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Speaker 1: They will still prevent you from getting really ill, They

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Speaker 1: to you. You know, just get anyone that you can get. However,

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Speaker 1: And if it was just my if it was just

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Speaker 1: I'm one of those you know, birthday parties who turns

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Speaker 1: So it's just really awkward. So my heart goes out

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Speaker 1: to anybody who's in these awkward social situations. Again, it's

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Speaker 1: just feeling a lot like twenty twenty up in here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, of course, like it was crazy because I remember

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Speaker 2: that at first, you know, Superman did not I want

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Speaker 2: I'm like, shut up, you know, I know he met

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Speaker 2: Now he's like a vax snob, like they didn't get vaccinated.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, bra, just not too long ago. I had

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Speaker 2: to threaten you to get violated. That got the fuze

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Speaker 2: or now because like I invited my parents to like,

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Speaker 2: I see he has like a work, his work, his

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Speaker 2: and Ron is like in his seventies and he's come

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Speaker 2: to every other party. But he was like nah, like

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Speaker 2: to take the risk. So no, I totally I totally

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Speaker 2: feel like it's it is worrisome. I mean we're all,

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Speaker 1: So okay mm hmm, yeah, okay, I mean my friend

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Speaker 1: just gonna you know, I'm not the CDC, obviously, we're

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Speaker 1: the latest research, the latest science that shows the vaccine's work,

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Speaker 1: and a link for you to get an appointment in

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Speaker 1: your area, because we can't go back, y'all. We cannot.

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Speaker 1: And the only way we're going to move forward to

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Speaker 1: normalcy so I can have my dang birthday party next

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Speaker 1: year too, just does not just about me, is if

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Speaker 1: people get vaccinated and take it seriously, and if you're

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Speaker 2: Ma mask it up?

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Speaker 1: And this concludes your science, your science moment for the day.

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Speaker 1: What else is going on? We're gonna talk about simone.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just feel like exhausted about, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, the bashing of black women. That's why I like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not on social hardly. No, But I was going

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Speaker 2: to ask you, have you ever been to like kind

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Speaker 2: of like these high level networking events. It costs like

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Speaker 2: like a bunch of money to go. Like there's one

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Speaker 2: It's like four days, it's in New Orleans. But it's

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Speaker 2: like it's it's and they don't they like to say

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Speaker 2: it's not networking. It's just connecting with people who you know,

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Speaker 2: who are entrepreneurs doing amazing things. And it's a no

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Speaker 2: because I've been to something like that before and that really,

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Speaker 2: it's not cheap. It's like ten thousand dollars and so

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Speaker 2: types of relationships that you get to build, that's the premise,

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Speaker 2: you know, And what's supposed to set this one apart

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Speaker 2: like kind, integrity filled entrepreneurs, Like you're not. You can't

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Speaker 2: be invited back. So I was like on the fence

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Speaker 2: and you know, they accepted me. So I was just like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, but now I'm like

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Speaker 2: it comes to growing professionally. And I never really was like,

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Speaker 2: organized sports. Oh well that's that's not true. I played tennis,

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Speaker 2: but that's different. But yeah, I just I was just like,

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Speaker 2: don't you only know as much as you know, and

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Speaker 2: you know, and if you want to like expand like

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Speaker 2: what's possible and expand like my capacity for like oh

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Speaker 2: I didn't even think that was reasonable. Oh someone else

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Speaker 2: has done that. Member, Like I was telling you how

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Speaker 2: I've got this business that I'm working on and you know,

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Speaker 2: and I'm trying to wrap my mind around it. And

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Speaker 2: when I read the book, and maybe he does mention

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Speaker 2: that he has other stuff, and I said, I literally

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Speaker 2: have never paid for anything else other than this fifteen

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Speaker 2: dollar book. So and it changed, it changed the trajectory

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Speaker 2: of my life. So anyway, I wrote that in the

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Speaker 2: arm review. Jeff emails me six week months later. I

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Speaker 2: was like, oh, he's a house just yes, after reading

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Speaker 2: I guess he must have saw the and you know,

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Speaker 2: the the review and then and then my name on

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Speaker 2: on on Amazon is the budget LISTA. So it wasn't

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Speaker 2: that hard to find it. So he says, hey, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, Tiffany, thank you so much for your amazing review.

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Speaker 2: I would love to like jump on a call with you,

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Speaker 2: because I'm right, I'm doing an updated version of Launch

439
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Speaker 2: and I would love to include you and maybe as

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Speaker 2: a case study. I was like, what say less? So

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Speaker 2: then so he said, you know, he said that. But

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Speaker 2: then we were we just kept missing each other and

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Speaker 2: almost like I felt like a year went by, and

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Speaker 2: then finally I was like, let me hit jump up again.

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Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, my gosh, should be dang

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Speaker 2: already finished the book, and I was like no, because

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be included. He was like, but we

448
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Speaker 2: should still jump on a call. So we did.

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Speaker 1: Had a book baby that last year too, so.

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Speaker 2: Exactly so I knew exactly how much work you know,

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Speaker 2: and how inundated you could be. So we jumped on

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Speaker 2: a call anyway, and he was just like so amazed

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Speaker 2: by you know, the trajectory of the business, you know,

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Speaker 2: from like me being a priest teacher to like, you know,

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Speaker 2: grow creating the eight figure of your business. And he

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Speaker 2: was just like, Dang, I wish I could have included

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Speaker 2: you because I think it's important for people to see

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Speaker 2: because you didn't come from the business world, so I

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Speaker 2: think it's important for people to see, like you know

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Speaker 2: that it's possible to do this without any prior background.

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Speaker 2: He said, but you know what, I would love to

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Speaker 2: include your your review maybe, like you know, like in

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Speaker 2: the book somewhere. And I was like, oh fine, I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking like a blurb of the review. So I was

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Speaker 2: on Amazon the other day and Amazon again was like, hey, Tiffany,

466
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Speaker 2: this launch book is out. I'm like, oh, Jeff's book

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Speaker 2: it just it just literally launched last week. And I said, okay,

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Speaker 2: So as I'm scrolling up inside the like on his

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Speaker 2: on the Amazon page where his book is. It's my

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Speaker 2: picture in my my review. I was like, oh he

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Speaker 2: put it like on his author thing page or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's awesome, and I said, well,

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Speaker 2: let me support and order the book. I ordered the book.

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Speaker 2: It gets here, girl. Why I'm opening up the page

475
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Speaker 2: right after the tape of contents is my review and

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Speaker 2: a huge picture of me. I was like, wait what

477
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Speaker 2: he put me in the app? So book girl, I

478
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Speaker 2: was like.

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Speaker 1: You made it.

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Speaker 2: It was just such a you know, like a full

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Speaker 2: circle moment of like I just left the review because

482
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Speaker 2: it really helped me, and like I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: know how to describe like who Jeff Walker is to this,

484
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Speaker 2: to this kind of online business community. He is like

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Speaker 2: one of like he is a thought leader and a

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Speaker 2: guru so to be like to be in his book,

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Speaker 2: it's like, I mean he advises people like Michael Hyatt

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Speaker 2: of like the Hya you know, like and so it's

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Speaker 2: just like what I could not believe. And it's like

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Speaker 2: Tiffany the Budget lista Leach, author of Get Good with Money.

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Speaker 2: I was like, thank you for the ad.

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Speaker 1: Yes, talk about their free marketing.

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Speaker 2: Dude. I know, like honestly, I could not believe. I

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Speaker 2: was like, I could not believe I was in the book.

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Speaker 2: And when I tell you a huge picture, it's like

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Speaker 2: the whole page. I'm like you would think like, well

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Speaker 2: did she write this book? Because it's right at the beginning,

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Speaker 2: so you got the you have the book.

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Speaker 1: There we can be.

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Speaker 2: Saying, you know, I know I was thinking of it's

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Speaker 2: in my bedroom upstairs, but but yeah, I was just thinking,

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Speaker 2: like it's just one of those things where it's just

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Speaker 2: you know, I was trying telling Zion today that, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, if I if there is a mantra or

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Speaker 2: a motto that I'm wanting for life, is that I

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Speaker 2: just want a life well lived, you know, like the

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Speaker 2: fullness of whatever that looks like. And things like this,

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Speaker 2: Like you know, that was you know, like a left

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Speaker 2: review because it was a good book and for it

510
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Speaker 2: to turn into this, and I feel like if you

511
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Speaker 2: just let you know, if you pour all the good

512
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Speaker 2: things in, things will start to unfold, you know. And

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Speaker 2: it's just a.

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Speaker 1: Kindness, yes, just talking about kindness.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because literally it's the key. I thought to myself

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Speaker 2: it was unfair that they were leaving those nasty reviews

517
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Speaker 2: because that wasn't true. So I felt like because normally

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Speaker 2: I probably just would have said great book, but I

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Speaker 2: was like, you know what, No, I'm going to show

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Speaker 2: like I really broke down like the three different, three

521
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Speaker 2: or four different launches that I did and how they worked,

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Speaker 2: because I wanted people to know, like, no, that's not true.

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Speaker 2: Someone's writing this because maybe they're angry because you know,

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Speaker 2: they haven't got through the book or they didn't do

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Speaker 2: all the work. But you're right, like, literally, that's all

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Speaker 2: that was, and now look how it like unfolds, and

527
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: so yeah, life can just be such like this hard

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Speaker 2: but amazing thing all the same time. But I definitely

529
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Speaker 2: was like, I can't believe I'm in Jeff Walker's book,

530
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Speaker 2: Like it doesn't I don't have the worst to describe

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Speaker 2: what that means.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Tiffany, you're just like magic fairy dust to summerfies

533
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Speaker 1: sometimes like but no, I mean those genuine, little those

534
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Speaker 1: genuine moments of kindness I think propel or if you

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Speaker 1: really get down to the root of the most successful,

536
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Speaker 1: genuinely successful people that people still want to be around

537
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Speaker 1: and have good lives, I think it's got to be kindness.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's teachable or what. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not surprised at all that. I mean, from the from

540
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Speaker 1: from the from the jump, You've always been, you know,

541
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Speaker 1: very authentic and very kind. And I certainly I leave

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Speaker 1: reviews for podcasts all the time because I know what

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Speaker 1: it's like to read reviews for your show and feel

544
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Speaker 1: like they're a little unfair. So and I think it's

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Speaker 1: just a good mess. It's just to tell people what

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Speaker 1: impact they've had on you. You don't know, you know, where

547
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Speaker 1: they may be in their lives. They may they may

548
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: need to hear it, and that's really beautiful. I might

549
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Speaker 1: need to go get that book now.

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Speaker 2: They don't need to hear We don't want to hear

551
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Speaker 2: about cho Ivy of Journey. Remember that that was I

552
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Speaker 2: wonder if that lady's like, I'm sorry, Okay, she.

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Speaker 1: Was having a bad day. Listen, she was having a

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Speaker 1: bad day. But that's why there's always going to be

555
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Speaker 1: that negativity out there. But we need y'all to go

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Speaker 1: leave us a review. Yeah, I'm going to bring it

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Speaker 1: back to leaving us a review, Leave us a review.

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Speaker 1: I really want to get to two thousand. I think

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Speaker 1: we're only like one hundred and fifty away. But you

560
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Speaker 1: can just right here right now. We get millions of downloads, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I know you're listening, and I know you're on a

562
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Speaker 1: smartphone right now, you can just click rate and review

563
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Speaker 1: wherever you're listening. It takes like two seconds. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: well congrats Tive. That's freaking amazing and not surprising base

565
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Speaker 1: on what I know of you.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, now it's time for booster break for

567
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Speaker 2: all our family. Are you gonna boot? Are you gonna break?

568
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Speaker 2: What you're gonna do, what you're gonna do, What you're

569
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Speaker 2: gonna what you're gonna do, Mandy, what you're gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel more self conscious singing now that we

571
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Speaker 1: can see each other now?

572
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Speaker 2: Actually, I feel it's actually better because, oh maybe got

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Speaker 2: the rhythm? Come on, Mandy makes me want to dance.

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Speaker 1: And I'm at my standing desk and I just can't

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Speaker 1: like stop, like, yes.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you. I'm like, are you standing because

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Speaker 2: I was like, you look like.

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Speaker 1: Your stand standing? Yes, And I'm I'm just sitting at

579
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Speaker 1: that desk for hours. I was writing an article this morning.

580
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: It took me like two hours. So yes, I'm stretching

581
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Speaker 1: my legs but I am going to do a boost.

582
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Speaker 1: I know you said you don't want to talk about it,

583
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: but it's my boost and you cannot take it away

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Speaker 1: from me. Okay, I'm gonna boost Simone Biles. When we

585
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Speaker 1: recorded last week, Simone had I think at that point

586
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Speaker 1: she had done not so great at like a preliminary event,

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Speaker 1: and since then there has been a lot of movements,

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Speaker 1: and you guys probably know at this point Simone, I

589
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Speaker 1: think there's one event left which she's supposed to compete in,

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Speaker 1: and I don't even know when that is in Tokyo

591
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Speaker 1: time versus USA time, But she has withdrawn from all

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Speaker 1: these different events. And I listened to uh uh, there

593
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Speaker 1: was a New York Times podcast just going over to

594
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Speaker 1: Simone's how she sort of got to this space, and

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Speaker 1: I just thought, I thought what kept coming back to

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Speaker 1: me was the like And I know that there's been

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Speaker 1: there has been some negativity around Simone, like, oh, she's

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Speaker 1: done the unpatriotic thing she's supposed to represent America. But

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Speaker 1: what I've been listening to is Simone's story and things

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Speaker 1: that Simone has said. And for me, what's really struck

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Speaker 1: in me, stricken me is when she said you know,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if people would see me beyond what

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Speaker 1: I've accomplished in gymnastics. But I'm realizing from this outpouring

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Speaker 1: of support that I am more than being a gymnast,

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Speaker 1: and that really struck me because I feel like for

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Speaker 1: a lot of us, our self worth is so tied

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Speaker 1: up in the thing that we do. And this was

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Speaker 1: very true for me. It's why I went that shit

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Speaker 1: crazy when I was on maternity leave and I just

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Speaker 1: didn't have a thing to do, you know, that job

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Speaker 1: every day defining me, and I just found it really powerful.

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Speaker 2: And I think.

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Speaker 1: We're seeing like a young woman really come into her

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Speaker 1: worth and really come in her own ownership of who

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Speaker 1: she is and saying you don't own me, you don't

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Speaker 1: make choices for me. And by the way, I have

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Speaker 1: given my blood, sweat, bones and tears to the sport

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Speaker 1: for her entire life, and for her to be able

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Speaker 1: to step away from it, it just of course, she

620
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Speaker 1: represented so much to our country, and we love some

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Speaker 1: own but at the end of the day, she is

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Speaker 1: so much more than that, and I'm really proud of

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Speaker 1: what she's accomplished and what she's doing by showing people

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Speaker 1: that there is a way to prioritize yourself and it

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Speaker 1: does not make you, you know, any less of a champion.

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Speaker 1: So shouts out to her. And let's not forget too

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Speaker 1: that she survived molestation at the hands of a gymnast,

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Speaker 1: a coach. You know, this huge industry American gymnast, what

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Speaker 1: is it USA gymnast? Whatever they protected, yes, they protect,

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Speaker 1: they did not protect her, and yet they expected her

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Speaker 1: to come out and be some owne. Again, we talked

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Speaker 1: about the loneliness of being a black woman who's dealing

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Speaker 1: with you know who, just isn't the version of sparkly

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Speaker 1: black girl magic that everyone wants to see. They don't

635
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Speaker 1: want to really see us struggle or whine or complain.

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Speaker 1: They want to see us be joyful and all the amazing, beautiful,

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Speaker 1: sparkly things that we are. But she has been through

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Speaker 1: so freaking much, I mean, plus a pandemic, plus like

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Speaker 1: I said, like performing with injuries, and her body is tired.

640
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: So I just I lift someone up and I just

641
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: say thank you to what she's done. I can't wait

642
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: to see what she does in the future. And to

643
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: anyone feeling like you are only defined by what you

644
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: do day to day. You know, it's it's not easy

645
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: to remember that, but I think Simon has reminded us that,

646
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: you know, we have to because otherwise, like when you

647
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: lose that job or that thing that you do, or

648
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: you can't do it all of a sudden for something

649
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: that's outside of your control, you still have to feel

650
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: like your value you know, extends beyond that or else.

651
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: That's how you kind of just spiral, right, So I

652
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: hope you don't mind, Tiffany, No.

653
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: I just said, like, I'm just so tired. I guess I

654
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: saw so many people, not so many people, but like

655
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: you know, people just coming out to someone like oh

656
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: they were like it was a Carrie shrug or one

657
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: of the young woman who like did her backflip on

658
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: a broken foot.

659
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: It was like years and years and years ago.

660
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's right, let's encourage people to

661
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: totally to put them in a position that they may

662
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: never have to, never be able to walk again, just

663
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: so you could see them on TV. Like what are

664
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: we asking of people? You know what I mean? So

665
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: I just was like, not that I want to hear

666
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: about Simon's wins, obviously, it was just like it's just

667
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just so overwhelming or just so I'm over it.

668
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: Speaking of I'm over it, I'm gonna break. That's a

669
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: little whitehearted. But so I'm sure you have you ever

670
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: heard of like, you know who Albonzo? Where Vieriro is

671
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: carl Bonzo. Yes, Carlton Banks, Yes, sir Carlton do he

672
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 2: has created a narrative where he So he did an

673
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: interview I forget with whatever platform. I'm reading this from

674
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: y'ah who Knews. So they picked it up and he said,

675
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: I'm never going to be fully supported in the black house.

676
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 2: This is like because he feels like that because of

677
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: my you know, my role, He's not in. He says

678
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: in quotes, I'm not enough, brother, And he said especially

679
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: because of my I'm so, did you even know that

680
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: Carlton Banks was married in the show or in like

681
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: real in real life? Yeah?

682
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: Is he married to a white woman? Yeah?

683
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: And he said, like you know, so he was just

684
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: like yeah, like I you know, I am, and I'm

685
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: also not going to be upsected exected in the in

686
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: the black community because I'm in a mixed relationship and

687
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: I'm married, you know, my wife is white. And I

688
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: just was like Carlton, what the hell are you talking about?

689
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: I literally he's like beloved like Maddy has have you

690
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: ever heard you know, there are definitely certain black people

691
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: that were like, ooh, child, like Terry Crews. Let's be real,

692
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: we're all sick of his ship like, but honestly, I

693
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: have never heard anyone say, you know who I dislike

694
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: and hate that damn Carlton Banks, Like I mean, you

695
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like he doesn't come up, you

696
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, I mean, we all love

697
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: fresh prince. And the truth of the matter is Carlton

698
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: Banks is when I didn't even know he was married,

699
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: I mean I guess I assumed he was married, and

700
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: quite honestly, when I found out that his wife was white,

701
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, that sounds right. You know, he

702
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: seems like the type to be married to a white woman.

703
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: Like nothing in a bad way, just because Carlton is, like,

704
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's not unusual. We like I'm not. I mean,

705
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: there are some men that you.

706
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: Was hoping me get to that part, yes, like you know,

707
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: like so there is a caricature.

708
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: He's not his character, yeah, but meaning like he all

709
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: a lot of that rubs off on his like, you know,

710
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: how you perceive him to be in in his real life.

711
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: So because of that, I'm not surprised by that it

712
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: wasn't There's some men you're like, oh really, oh okay.

713
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like, for example, Danzel, if Danzel's wife was white,

714
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: I might be like Danzel's wife is white. Oh, I

715
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: would have never thought. If you say Carlton Bank's wife

716
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: is white, You're like, duh, you know what I mean?

717
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: So like I just think, like I'm like, what is

718
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: his fake narrative? So first of all, I just love

719
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: black Twitter They're like, what in the what the hell

720
00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: are you talking about? Carlton? They're literally dragging him for nobody.

721
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 2: Nobody has cared car like you know what I mean,

722
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: Like literally it's never come up. So many people didn't

723
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: even know that his wife was white, and they're like,

724
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 2: we don't care, Carlton, and we've never not supported you,

725
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: you know, because honestly we've loved Fresh Prince, your beloved

726
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: character on Fresh Prince, and I remember he before that.

727
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: I forget other things that he's been in, Like I

728
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 2: just don't. There are some people, yes, or like I

729
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: remember like Chrissette Michelle, Remember she like performed for the

730
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: Trump inauguration, right, So like there was a concerted effort

731
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: to say we're mad at Chrissette Michelle. We you know,

732
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: we knew that, and people are like, okay, but like

733
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: there's I've never heard you know what, you know one

734
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 2: of the people we don't mess with Carlton begs our fonds,

735
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: So you're not welcome to the barbecue. So I'm just

736
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: like I can see that, you know, I don't know

737
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: what it looks like day to day when he's walking out,

738
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: you know, because I know that, you know, maybe he's

739
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: saying like because that when he's like out to restaurants

740
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: or dinner whatever, maybe you're getting looks because you're in

741
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: a in a mixed relationship. But I feel like on

742
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: a whole, like literally black Twitter was like, what is

743
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 2: Carlton talking about? What is this made up narrative? Nobody

744
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: dislikes you? It's you know what I mean? Like I

745
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 2: just don't even know. I just yeah, so I just

746
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: thought that was like crazy.

747
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't ever want to discount someone's feelings,

748
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: Like maybe he has felt like an outsider in those

749
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: like if he's if he's tried to move in those circles,

750
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: you know. But listen, I think that there are so

751
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: many versions of being black in America that even black

752
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: people amongst ourselves, we sometimes can be othered by our

753
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: own people. I mean, you're talking to a biracial woman

754
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: right now, and I can tell you, uh, I am,

755
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: I'm I had I've become very comfortable with who I am,

756
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: But there are plenty of times I have felt not

757
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: something enough. I mean, that's just Tailor's old as time

758
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: for anybody. And you being you know, Nigerian America, I'd

759
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: be surprised if you said there was never a time

760
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: where you didn't feel like Black American enough, or to

761
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: like misreferences or something like that. Like there's just all

762
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: these different intersections of identity. And I mean, I certainly

763
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: feel like I would love him to come to any

764
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: like be can my barbecue? He would be a hit

765
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: at any black barbecue. Can you imagine your host is

766
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: a black barbecue and Carlton showed up, Like I was saying.

767
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: Like, I feel like the black community loves Carlton. That's

768
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: why I'm just like yeah, yeah, yeah, And but but

769
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: to your point, and also too, I think maybe maybe

770
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: his day to day experience is like in real life,

771
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: meaning like you know, like culture on a whole. I

772
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: don't know that that's the sentiment that like you know

773
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: that you know, like I said, like I literally remember

774
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: when it came out, I was like, let me see

775
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 2: a black peeto talking about They were like what Carlsore,

776
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: we love you know black children is vicious and they

777
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: were like what truth tellers, Yeah, we love you like

778
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: we don't. I We're not surprised by your white wife.

779
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: Nobody cares, you know, and two like you're a beloved

780
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: character in this show that we literally we all love

781
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: fresh Prince and you know. And but I'm not saying

782
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: that like maybe what he's saying in Hollywood, like there's

783
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: certain you know, because he hasn't quite fit like he

784
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: you know, the roles that would normally go to like

785
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: maybe a black man haven't gone to him, and then

786
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: roles that would go to white man he wouldn't go

787
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: to him too. So maybe I'm sure obviously I'm not

788
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 2: saying that what he's saying is not ballan. I guess

789
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like to like brusted with a broad stroke,

790
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, I've literally never heard anyone say, Carlton Banks,

791
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: you know, Alfonso was canceled because we don't like him.

792
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: That's what I was afraid you were going to say

793
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: when you said that, have you heard of Alfonso? No?

794
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: I was just like, wow, I need you to go

795
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 2: to some therapy, like the black.

796
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: People do a follow up and like offer more yeah,

797
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: more context.

798
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 2: But I feel like I remember that what was that

799
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: that they remember Dave Chappelle when they had like their

800
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: and they had to race Olympics where basically remember you

801
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: had to like choose like racial draft or something. I

802
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: feel like nobody nobody was giving away call to it.

803
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: We love you ca.

804
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah right, well that was a good one. That's a

805
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: thought provoking one. I hope, you know, I hope that

806
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: he he. I hope they drag him too.

807
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: Bad, just for him, like literally nobody was You're black

808
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: enough to be dragged? Yes, telling him as much as

809
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: they were, like what is he talking about? We love you?

810
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, hopefully he'll see that and be like, oh, okay,

811
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: you who like to be loved by anyone to.

812
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: Get to pay for the rights. So this please don't.

813
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: Oh that's our show for today, that's our show.

814
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: Don't forget. We have a new special minisode B, A,

815
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: Q and A on Fridays. So I have gotten a

816
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: couple of questions from y'all saying where to questions at.

817
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: They are hitting y'all on Friday in a special mini episode,

818
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: so check us out. There's been a couple so far.

819
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: Love the feedback, so that's where all the questions are.

820
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: So we're gonna say goodbye for now and see.

821
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: Y'all in a couple of days. But don't forget. Invite

822
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: three friends to listen to b A podcast. You know,

823
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: send them the link directly because you know people be

824
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: lazy looking.

825
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: Stuff up, so I know, send them the link directly.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget to leave a review. Okay, bye bye