WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: How Wills Work

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, it's your old pal and trusted confidante Josh

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<v Speaker 1>and for this week's s Y s K selects, I've

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<v Speaker 1>chosen How Wills Work to Die in the Wool example

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<v Speaker 1>of a classic Stuff You Should Know episode where we

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<v Speaker 1>did our absolute best to find the most interesting stuff

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<v Speaker 1>about a seemingly boring topic. Plus it's chock full of

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<v Speaker 1>helpful legal advice issued by a pair of decidedly non

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers us at any rate, I hope you enjoy it,

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<v Speaker 1>Take care of Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a

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<v Speaker 1>production of My Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as

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<v Speaker 1>always is Charles W. Chuck Chucker, Chuck Tran, Brian Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>trans so weird to me, I don't get it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no recollection of where that came from. Are no? Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>It was from a show though, Yeah, you didn't just

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<v Speaker 1>make that up, not just now, No, it was there

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<v Speaker 1>was It was in relation to something we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about at the time. Someone It made sense once, okay, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I was on our Facebook page. I was looking for

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<v Speaker 1>discussions like sometimes I like to go on and read

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<v Speaker 1>like what's your favorite line? Did you ever. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever read this? It's like a trip down memory lane. Really. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's like whole discussion threats. There's like forty different threats

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<v Speaker 1>people have created. But there was one that was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what's your favorite stuff you should know line of

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<v Speaker 1>all time? And I can't I can't find that thread

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<v Speaker 1>any longer. It was a good one. Did you go

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<v Speaker 1>through and count on how many you had and how

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<v Speaker 1>many I had? I did not count. I kept a

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<v Speaker 1>running tally, but I didn't count just mentally. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>write anything down as it as it were. Chuck. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy nine was a pretty good year for movies. Yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>allow me. That year the Muppet movie came out, Creamer

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<v Speaker 1>Versus Kramer was number one at the box office. One

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<v Speaker 1>of my personal favorites Amityville Horror, the first one, the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen nine one m what do you Allen's Manhattan the Jerk.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my favorite all time movie. Manhattan is I've not

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<v Speaker 1>seen it? What I have not? Okay? The Jerk is awesome?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, the Jerk or Manhattan? I said Manhattan. You said,

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<v Speaker 1>uh huh, yeah, Manhattan. I was just I was changing

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<v Speaker 1>the subject. Okay, all right. I like the Jerk, Alien,

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<v Speaker 1>Rocky Too, Alien so far ahead of its time, Moonraker

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<v Speaker 1>so behind the times. But none of these held a

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<v Speaker 1>candle too in my opinion. Overlooked movie by director Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Schultz a classic called Scavenger Hunt. Really have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen it? No, you've not seen Scavenger Hunt? Uh? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it kind of a riff on? It's a mad, mad,

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<v Speaker 1>mad mad world. I can see how some maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>uh elitists might make that distinction or that that um comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay um. I personally think that it's a great movie

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<v Speaker 1>and it's about vin and Price. While it begins, Vincent Price,

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<v Speaker 1>is this aged video game magnet? Was he ever young? No?

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<v Speaker 1>He was born like gold and gray. Yeah, and suave,

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<v Speaker 1>though he was much more suave than he led on. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he is dying and he actually does die playing one

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<v Speaker 1>of his video games. And then you cut to the

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<v Speaker 1>his his former home, and his lawyer is executing a

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<v Speaker 1>will which his stated worth two million dollars. And it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out we learned very quickly as all the characters assemble,

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<v Speaker 1>that the whole thing is up for grabs to a

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<v Speaker 1>single team who go on a scavenger Hunt. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>really see this or is this just I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>on this one? Okay, Yeah, that's a great movie. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you really not seen it? No, I've never heard of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I strongly recommend it, and I found it just to

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<v Speaker 1>get myself in the mood. I found it on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>and parts I think eleven parts, like ten minutes segments.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're a very cheap person um or can't

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<v Speaker 1>find it, it's up on YouTube. Sweet. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you search um Scavenger Hunt and then in parentheses nine,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll it'll bring it up. Awesome. So the whole point

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<v Speaker 1>of that was that number one, scaveng John is a

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<v Speaker 1>good movie, and number two people do some wacky things

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<v Speaker 1>with wills. That scenario wasn't that far off from things

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<v Speaker 1>that people have done with their wills. We're talking about wheels, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get ready to talk about contract law. I know

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of the first articles I wrote, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little rigid, but there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>you can do. I mean, try to make it a

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<v Speaker 1>little fun in the end. But I was fully planning

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<v Speaker 1>on complimenting you on this article. It's a good article,

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<v Speaker 1>it's comprehensive, it's got everything you need. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get into like any of the legal mamo jumbo,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not the role of the site. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, let's just go ahead and say, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>you brought that up. We are not attorneys. You should

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<v Speaker 1>not take this podcast and base your will and life

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<v Speaker 1>on Please do not do that. No, but that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get um all the documents you need to

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<v Speaker 1>create your own will for six dollars and cents at Staples. Really. Huh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they have everything. Well, that brings up one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first points, which is a will isn't super complicated to

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<v Speaker 1>draw up, um, and it varies from state to state,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can do it yourself, but you should get

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<v Speaker 1>an attorney to look over things. But if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to save a few bucks, you can always go to Staples. Well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we should probably say that again and again through this

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, as you did again and again through this article, Like, really,

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<v Speaker 1>you should have at the very least an attorney look

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<v Speaker 1>at your will if you're gonna do it yourself. Right, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some of the specifics. Man. If if

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<v Speaker 1>you are um, if you have ten minutes to write

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<v Speaker 1>this thing a piece of paper and a pen. What

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<v Speaker 1>are the high points that you want to hit to

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<v Speaker 1>make your will as close to legal as possible? And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, state law governs wills, right, yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>you always got to check with your state and if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you want to call it up and be like, state,

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<v Speaker 1>I got some questions for you. And if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a will in one state and you move, it'll it'll

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<v Speaker 1>still be valid. But you still should check your state's

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<v Speaker 1>laws and stuff like that, right, Because is it the

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<v Speaker 1>state you die in that is the state that you

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<v Speaker 1>execute your your will is executed in? Jeez, because it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like if you were going to move, it would

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<v Speaker 1>seem like that's the way it would go. I guess. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but what if you you die on vacation Hawaii? Is

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<v Speaker 1>your will wouldn't be based on I think. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's pertains to the state in which it was drafted

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<v Speaker 1>and approved. Check with your lawyer. Check with your lawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least call the state. I didn't think you'd

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<v Speaker 1>stop me so early, all right, So what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have, at the very bare minimum is your name,

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<v Speaker 1>your spouse's name if you have one, and when you

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<v Speaker 1>were married, yeah, your your children's names so they can

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<v Speaker 1>make sure they're not confusing you your other spouse with

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<v Speaker 1>your spouse in the will. That's right, Um, your children's

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<v Speaker 1>names and I love this part. How you want any

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<v Speaker 1>step children or false foster children to be treated? You

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<v Speaker 1>could be like, well, yeah, please treat them well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>a statement revoking any other wills if you have one, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta name your executor and an alternate. You should

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<v Speaker 1>name an alternate list of powers that you want that

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<v Speaker 1>executive or to have special gifts, personal property and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Instructions for distributing paying debts. There are actually you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't decide whether or not you want to pay

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<v Speaker 1>your debts, but after debt has been paid, how you

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<v Speaker 1>want your stuff to be doled out? So I'm officially

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<v Speaker 1>founding a movement that if your debtors can't get the

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<v Speaker 1>money they need out of you while you're alive, that's that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you look that up? What's the what's the law? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the for it varies by state again, um, but generally,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have enough money to pay, say like a

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<v Speaker 1>credit card debt, you have to pay that credit card debt.

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<v Speaker 1>But there there are um, there are onuses on credit

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<v Speaker 1>card companies like they have to notify your executor um

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<v Speaker 1>within like sixty days or something of this outstanding debt

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<v Speaker 1>um and if it turns out that there's not enough money,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can basically say like, sorry, that's that, and

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<v Speaker 1>the credit card company has to write it off and

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<v Speaker 1>then we all pay for it with our outrageous financing fees.

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<v Speaker 1>In the end um burial instructions. You can sometimes put

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<v Speaker 1>it in a will, but you should burial. I just

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<v Speaker 1>got thick tongue, didn't burial And you probably want those

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else though, because sometimes the will isn't like immediately

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<v Speaker 1>accessible if you've got it locked in a safe in

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<v Speaker 1>your family does another combination, they're they're gonna lead you

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<v Speaker 1>laying around on the floor for days. You don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to sweat your pension plan or life insurance or annuity

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that because that's all taken care of they

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<v Speaker 1>the beneficiary or in those documents, so it doesn't need

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<v Speaker 1>to be in your will, right, and it can actually

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<v Speaker 1>screw things up, right, not screw things up. It can

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<v Speaker 1>slow things down because you can say I I want this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my life insurance policy to go to my

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<v Speaker 1>estate and then divvy it up, but that just adds

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more time to the process. Correct. Absolutely, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you should probably in most states have to be at

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<v Speaker 1>least eighteen years old to have a legal will, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to everyone knows you have to be of

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<v Speaker 1>sound mind and body or I think it's just sound mind, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, what does your body of do with?

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<v Speaker 1>As long as you can make an X or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>draw a whale like quick wag, you're fine. So what

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<v Speaker 1>does uh, what does that mean legally speaking? Mentally? Um? Sound? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that you brought that up, or I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that you put this in the article because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good idea. Basically, you have to know that

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<v Speaker 1>you own property. You have to know about it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know that you have like a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>acres in Montana, then you're not probably a sound mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you did at one time know that you had

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<v Speaker 1>it and just don't remember any longer. That that could

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<v Speaker 1>be a problem as well. If you're not it is

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's kind of said to not be of sound mind. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not suffering from a mental illness, which I

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<v Speaker 1>remember I saw a remake of Psycho which wasn't psycho

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<v Speaker 1>to It was made for TV, and it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a spoof comedy. And the thing starts with the

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<v Speaker 1>execution of Norman Bates will and it gets to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where it says, I Norman eights being of sound mind,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody in the rooms like. But it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>brings up a point like, what do you do if

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<v Speaker 1>you are mentally ill and you have a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>assets and you've never created a will and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to create when you just do you die in testing?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question into state. I do know that, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you become mentally ill later on, then it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter as long as you have a sound mind when

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<v Speaker 1>you first wrote the will, right, okay, um. You also

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<v Speaker 1>need to be aware of the people who are related

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<v Speaker 1>to you again, like, not like you fathered a kid

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<v Speaker 1>back in nineteen sixty two that you didn't know about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what they're talking about. They're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>kid that you had nineteen sixty two and raised into

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<v Speaker 1>an adulthood is still recognizable to you. And also, you

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<v Speaker 1>generally probably shouldn't hold conversations with lapper cons that tell

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<v Speaker 1>you to burn things, right, that's usually a big red

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<v Speaker 1>flag that you might not be a sound mind. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>so chuck that sound mine. Um, and let's say you've

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<v Speaker 1>got that check check check. You know about your land

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<v Speaker 1>and Montana, you know your kid's name. Um, you you

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<v Speaker 1>don't suffer from mental illness, and you are ready to

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<v Speaker 1>create your will? All right? Boom the executor. Yes, that

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<v Speaker 1>is the most important person in your will, because that

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<v Speaker 1>is the person that is gonna make an inventory of

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<v Speaker 1>all your junk. Um, they're gonna pay your debts. They're

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate debts. That is not vinny who comes over and

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<v Speaker 1>says you will meet although you may want to pay

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<v Speaker 1>that too if you're smart. Um distributes the assets under

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<v Speaker 1>the terms of the will. So it can be anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but you want it to be someone you really really trust.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone who's probably pretty smart, maybe has a little business experience,

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<v Speaker 1>and someone who is thoughtful because you can get ugly.

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<v Speaker 1>You want someone this is a tough time for a

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<v Speaker 1>family usually, and you want someone that's got some a

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<v Speaker 1>good bedside manner if they're going to execute your will, right,

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<v Speaker 1>not some jerk. Right. You also want somebody who has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time to go to your house and

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<v Speaker 1>inventory stuff. I remember when I found out my sister

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<v Speaker 1>is my dad's executive tricks um, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what about me? And I read about all that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just like cut me the check. Yeah, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>think my dad likes me more than I thought, now

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<v Speaker 1>that I know what an executive executive has to do,

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<v Speaker 1>let you off the hook. Yeah. Well, now we're on

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<v Speaker 1>the road, driving in your truck. Want to learn a

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<v Speaker 1>thing or two from Josh Man, Chuck. Stuff you should know?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's why sks good. But you should know, so, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the different kinds of wills. Right. There's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the standard like ironclad will, it's been drafted by

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<v Speaker 1>an attorney or whatever. She'll talk about a second. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's some kind of interesting wills because death doesn't necessarily happen,

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<v Speaker 1>um when you're counting on it, exactly. That should be this,

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<v Speaker 1>That should be stuff you should know as new model,

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<v Speaker 1>the new slogan, death doesn't happen when you're counting on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Death doesn't necessarily happen when you're counting on Just to

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<v Speaker 1>add the extra, I like it a bit of suspense. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're talking about probably, um, a couple of things

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<v Speaker 1>one can be an oral will, which is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times in the in the old days, and it

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<v Speaker 1>might still happen because soldiers are still very young and

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<v Speaker 1>might not think that they need a will because they're

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<v Speaker 1>young and their bulletproof. But a lot of times soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>on the battlefield would execute an oral well to their

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<v Speaker 1>buddy there as their dying in the trenches. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to do too, buddies, oh to two witnesses. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>definitely helps the helps the case that it's legal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the in the scenario I just mentioned, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the the dying soldier on the battlefield, is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the more common ways that an oral will will be

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<v Speaker 1>upheld because I imagine they have a lot of compassion

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<v Speaker 1>for something like that. Yeah, And um, if they can

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<v Speaker 1>find your your buddies and get them to sign an affidavit,

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<v Speaker 1>or they can actually come to probate court and say, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what he said. He said to leave it

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<v Speaker 1>all to me. Yeah, no, he said to leave it

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<v Speaker 1>all to me. Then it turns ugly. But if they

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<v Speaker 1>both agree that it is what you said, then um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably going to stand up in court. Right. So

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<v Speaker 1>what's a deathbed will? A deathbed will is virtually the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, but say, rather than dying young and being

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<v Speaker 1>of sound mind, you might be on your deathbed and

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<v Speaker 1>are suffering from Alzheimer's or something like that, so the

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<v Speaker 1>deathbed will UM. It also can be written to it's

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<v Speaker 1>more of like the time rather than the type right um,

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<v Speaker 1>so the the it can be written, It can be oral,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can have several witnesses, but it's also the

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<v Speaker 1>most commonly challenged one because mental capacity is frequently argued,

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<v Speaker 1>like this person didn't know what they were talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody you know had their feeding too kinks, so

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<v Speaker 1>they did it under durest you know. Yeah. Uh, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a holographic wheel Josh, very informal handwritten. Usually this

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<v Speaker 1>is the coolest looking will. That's right, it's not a hologram. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Not all states recognize these as valid um, so as

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<v Speaker 1>always check with your state. But scenario where this might

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<v Speaker 1>happen is you wreck your car on a snowy road

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of nowhere and you're like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>die and I'm gonna scratch out my will, or you

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<v Speaker 1>pee it into the snow that would be awesome, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you're James Franco or that real dude and you're

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in a and a boulder. You could probably videotape it,

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<v Speaker 1>although I think holographic is strictly handwritten. Yeah, so that

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<v Speaker 1>would be an oral deathbed will sort of commonly written

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<v Speaker 1>in blood, but he lived one's own blood. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a pretty cool one. I said it was cool. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the coolest one that you think. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the the impending death by oneself? Yeah, yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>just scratch it out and whatever paper you have and

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<v Speaker 1>then succume to the elements. I think it's neat because

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, you're thinking about the people you love

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<v Speaker 1>and in some way they're there with you. Right then. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but what if you're saying, I don't want to leave

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<v Speaker 1>any of those no good uh never do wells anything, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then you deserve to freeze to death. Okay. Uh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>the d I y will which you mentioned. You can

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<v Speaker 1>get um on the internet or I guess it Staples.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get the forms. Self probating wills can save

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<v Speaker 1>you a little time. Well, this is the ironclad will, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so, so this is the one where you

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<v Speaker 1>hire a lawyer to draft it. At the very least

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<v Speaker 1>review it. But probably you've hired a lawyer to draft

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<v Speaker 1>your will a couple hundred bucks from what I understand. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and the the witnesses sign affidavits ahead of time that

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<v Speaker 1>are part of the will, saying like, yes, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>did say this, so you don't have to These witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to appear in probate court to testify that

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<v Speaker 1>this is the correct will. So it expedites the whole process.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes it more difficult to challenge. And basically it's

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<v Speaker 1>the butt of boom butt of being of wills. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>contest me, baby, is what it says at the bottom. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And since we're talking about contesting and changing that happens

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, totally illegal. The only person that can

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<v Speaker 1>change a will is the test to tour. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>that funny? That's like Hodgment says complain ant and defend

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<v Speaker 1>ant and Judge John Hodgment. So the test it tour

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<v Speaker 1>is the only person that can do this. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>common a lot of reasons. You might have a new kid,

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<v Speaker 1>you might get divorced, you might get married, you might

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<v Speaker 1>start hating your kid, might start hating your kid. The

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<v Speaker 1>tax laws might change in your favors. You can tweak

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<v Speaker 1>it a bit. H You might all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you might win the lottery and think, oh, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I might want to rethink how my will has read

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. Or you might just feel like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm kind of old and my kids are

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<v Speaker 1>doing okay, so I'd rather just leave my money to

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<v Speaker 1>some great charities. That's a nice thing to do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Kates, he's leaving the line sheriff his though to charity.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, while he's alive. Even tried. Um And okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say that your your elderly parent dies and

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<v Speaker 1>you decide that, um, he or she is obviously crazy

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<v Speaker 1>because he or she left his or her money to charity. Right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You can challenge this, right, that's right, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>a number of ways to challenge it. But it's that's

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<v Speaker 1>it's first of all, it's a very difficult, long and

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<v Speaker 1>expensive process. Unless you have like real solid evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>one of maybe several points that that could possibly overturn

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<v Speaker 1>a will, it's gonna be you're not gonna win, and

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<v Speaker 1>not anyone can challenge like no Schmo off the street,

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<v Speaker 1>or like let's say you I couldn't challenge your will

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<v Speaker 1>and say but Josh was my podcast partner. I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it doesn't matter. I don't know. You could

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<v Speaker 1>technically be a person of legal standing, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be to challenge it will. You either

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<v Speaker 1>have to be someone who is in the will and

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<v Speaker 1>you're challenging it like I got reem. This is terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I want more money and that's what is your problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't challenge on fairness. I mean, you can

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<v Speaker 1>do it, but you won't win. Thank you for correcting me. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be like somebody was holding this guy's feeding too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this is because so that's when you can challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you could be someone who should have been in

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<v Speaker 1>the will e g. A podcaster. I would think it's

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<v Speaker 1>usually a family member, though you probably have to be

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<v Speaker 1>a I would blood relative, blood or maybe marriage. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure if you're a blood relative, it helps make you. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it helps your position as a person of legal stand anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna challenge your will like when we're in our eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is gonna be like some sort of proof

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<v Speaker 1>that I agree you should be a person of legal

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<v Speaker 1>standing at least will be like the Sunshine Boys, like

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't spoken in thirty years, and like our children

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to get us together for a more show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah did you ever see that? No, that's a good one,

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<v Speaker 1>but I laughed anyway. All right, um, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving all my stuff to you me so you

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<v Speaker 1>can challenge it all you want, pal, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>contradicted your challenge and this is going to stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, because this is a very public I

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<v Speaker 1>would think that this would work. Yeah, I wouldn't challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she can have it all, Okay, she can

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<v Speaker 1>have your junk, So a good junk. If you do,

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<v Speaker 1>you do, Josh, have a good junk. Um. If you

0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.080
<v Speaker 1>do challenge it, um, which you're gonna, you can either

0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:09.680
<v Speaker 1>rewrite it completely, revoke the original, or add something called

0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:13.280
<v Speaker 1>a codicil to your existing will. It's just like an addendum. Basically.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's if you want to change your will. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to challenge it, well, well there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to turn out so right the will is forged this

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<v Speaker 1>one um that it didn't meet the requirements of the state,

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<v Speaker 1>Like maybe the state requires two witnesses and there's only one. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't. Uh, the person was coerced the testator, right,

0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.600
<v Speaker 1>it was coerced with the kink in the feeding too. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the tested term was a victim of fraud. What would

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<v Speaker 1>that be? I don't know. Um, like maybe the person

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<v Speaker 1>who drew up the will wasn't really a lawyer but

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<v Speaker 1>charged lawyer's fee oradeah. Okay. And then lastly, the beneficiary

0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:58.720
<v Speaker 1>doesn't improve the executor. And this could be like the

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<v Speaker 1>executors maybe the fraudulent attorney. Yeah, it couldn't. It can't

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<v Speaker 1>just be like she borrowed my pearl necklace once and

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<v Speaker 1>never gave it back. There's no way she can execute

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<v Speaker 1>this estate. Right. And I didn't get stats, but the

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<v Speaker 1>general feeling I get is that wills are pretty tough

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<v Speaker 1>to overturn unless, like you said, there's some pretty blatant

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<v Speaker 1>egregious errors or fraud going on. And if and if

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<v Speaker 1>it is rejected, then they just go to the state law,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, you know, your wife gets this percentage, your

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<v Speaker 1>firstborn gets this percentage, and on down the line. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's as if you had died without a will.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how they treat it, which is called dying intestate. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I never heard that word. Okay, so let's say that

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<v Speaker 1>you um, let's say that you really your kid. It

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<v Speaker 1>just really turns out to be a jerk. You did

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<v Speaker 1>everything you could, but you just don't like your kid.

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<v Speaker 1>You nurtured, you nurtured, you nurtured, and then natured one out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Sean Penn in the game before you went

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<v Speaker 1>through the game. Oh yeah, like that kind of guy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Okay, you can cut your kid out of

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<v Speaker 1>the will, but there's you have to follow a specific guideline.

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<v Speaker 1>And that guideline is you officially have to disinherit your kid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm surprised it's it's easier to write your child

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<v Speaker 1>out of your will than your spouse. Yeah. And you

0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 1>you you brought the child into the world, you married

0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the spouse. I was surprised by that too, Chuck. Yeah, you,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, you disinherit a child for unless you

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<v Speaker 1>have some sort of ironclad pre nup, then your spouse

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<v Speaker 1>husband or wife is gonna be um, gonna be getting

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<v Speaker 1>some dough a half. Generally is the is the way

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Um. So, spouses are tough. Kids are easy, right,

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.119
<v Speaker 1>but um, most lawyers will be like don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not just disinherit, and don't try to cut your

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<v Speaker 1>spouse out. It's gonna make you look like a jerk.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to make a judge overturn your will. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>what you do. You give them each fifty cents. Okay, right,

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 1>pretty horrible, Right? That didn't make you look like a jerk, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. But you put in an into rum clause

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<v Speaker 1>that says that if they challenge the will, that they

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<v Speaker 1>forfeit everything. And you know what that means in Latin,

0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:10.560
<v Speaker 1>it means in order to frighten. So basically it's saying,

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's trying to scare someone off right, So

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty cents thing wouldn't work, right, You want to

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<v Speaker 1>leave them enough so that they are they they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have what they need, but they're still offended, like exactly right,

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 1>So like they're like, well, I could buy five tho

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.560
<v Speaker 1>dollars with a crack with that five thousand dollars, maybe

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I should just stick with this, you know. Yeah, divorce

0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 1>can complicate things. Obviously, some states renders the will invalid,

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 1>but most times just the parts where the spouses in

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>there will be addressed. So the bequest is what the

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 1>people get. The beneficiaries are the people who get bequests.

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Actually figured out like a pretty good sentence to explain

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:54.719
<v Speaker 1>all this. The beneficiary receives a bequest from the testator's

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<v Speaker 1>will in probate court at the behest of the executor.

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<v Speaker 1>So however, thank you m hm. So the the beneficiaries

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<v Speaker 1>are all going to get slapped with what is called

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 1>a death tax. Really it's called in the state tax,

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:35.640
<v Speaker 1>but opponents of the estate tax, the rich um basically

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 1>created this other name for it called the death tax,

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>which is like you're being taxed to die. You're not

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 1>actually being taxed to die. Your estates not even being taxed.

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Your beneficiaries bequests are what are taxed. The thing is,

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot, you know what. I call it, one

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 1>final little from the government from uncle saying like, you

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 1>paid your whole life, you paid your whole life, you

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 1>died on the battlefield, and then we're going to get

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.719
<v Speaker 1>some more tax and it's hefty. Yeah. Well, I mean,

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 1>part of the reason why the estate taxes around is

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>to prevent dynasties from taking place. But the problem is

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 1>with all of the loopholes tax shelters that kind of stuff. Um,

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the rich are the only ones who can afford to

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 1>get around from paying estate taxes, So that kind of

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 1>goes under the middle class and prevents middle class dynasties

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>from being formed. But you know, it's really weird. What

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I cannot describe to you how severe the level of

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 1>deja vu I have right now is have we had

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a conversation about the state taxes in that same vein

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. But we've done a podcast on

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>deja vu. Well, then prepare for some really vitriolic listener

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>mail from that one, because in my deja vu memory, Yeah,

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:57.440
<v Speaker 1>that ticked people off. What because you said that only

0:25:57.520 --> 0:25:59.919
<v Speaker 1>the rich people can know about these loopholes, Well, they

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>can afford accountants that can figure out these loopholes, lawyers

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:05.159
<v Speaker 1>that kind of things, like you ain't gonna get that

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>at the Staples package. No, No, it actually says good

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>luck with the decks death taxes, pal doesn't so chuck. Um.

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>If if you are a person living in I think

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 1>two thousand six in the United States, and you inherited

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>over ten thousand fifty dollars, what did you pay five

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 1>close to three grand? That's just that that's just for

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:34.639
<v Speaker 1>inheriting ten thousand and fifty one dollars, right, yeah, well

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>that's the base thing. Then you have to pay an

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:41.119
<v Speaker 1>additional thirty five percent over and above the ten thousand

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 1>fifty dollars. So let me ask you that is that

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>thirty five percent on the whole thing or thirty percent

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and the whole thing minus ten thousand and fifty dollars.

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a good question, and I don't know, and I'm

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.920
<v Speaker 1>sure some smart attorney will say, here's how it is. God.

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.120
<v Speaker 1>But if you're inheriting a million dollars, who cares? Yeah,

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>well that's a lot of change. Though, if it's like

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:03.399
<v Speaker 1>Bucks right on ten thousand, yes, Josh, you're indeed right

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a million bucks? Who cares? So there's the death taxes.

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>You can set up a trust. That is one good

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>way to UM maybe pay fewer taxes UM. If smart

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>people often set up trust, rich people often set up trust. Well,

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>it also keeps your UM. You don't have to be

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>rich though, I've looked into trust. About too grand to

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 1>set up a trust? Yeah, yeah, it's UM And this

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:28.239
<v Speaker 1>number one, it's it's very speedy. It keeps it out

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.679
<v Speaker 1>of probate court, Like when you die, you're dying wishes

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 1>that are a part of your will that are incorporated

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 1>into this trust. That's that right, right, Um, so all

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff gets divvied up right away. It stays

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 1>out of court. Yeah. And if you have a minor

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:44.199
<v Speaker 1>in your family, a lot of times you'll set up

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a trust, because if you don't set up a trust,

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the court is going to assign or there will be

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a conservator who will oversee the assets of the minor

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 1>and I think eighteen to twenty one generally in most states,

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>as when a minor can all of a sudden handle

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>their own fine answers. But if you set up a trust,

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>it's managed by the trust store and they'll handle it

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>for your kid. Yeah, whoever that person is, I would

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:12.120
<v Speaker 1>imagine someone just as trustworthy is the executor, maybe one

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and the same, You're right, and then Chuck. Of course,

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>there is the living will, right yeah, And there's a

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>whole article on living wills, but so we won't get

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 1>into it too specifically, but a living will has nothing

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 1>to do with your money's and properties. It is, um. Hey,

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 1>if I'm ever in a serious accident and I'm on

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>a ventilator, here's how I would like my um, I

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>would like you to pull the plug or not pull

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the plug. And it's more complicated than that. Yeah, because

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>that's like that's line one. And the line too is

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>if I'm ever attacked by a dog and I need

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>a heart that's coming, that's that my family can afford take,

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, pull the plug and then down the line right, Yeah,

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>and these need to be signed and witnessed, and power

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>of attorney is usually included because if you can't cover

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>every scenario obviously, and the power of attorney would be

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>let's say, you know what, I want Emily to be

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>in charge of making this decision and not my mom,

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>let's say, because my mom would be like, no, he'll

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>pull through and Emily be like, yeah, he doesn't look

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>too good. She wouldn't do that. I'm just kidding. It's

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 1>still funny, but yeah, a living will is very important

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>though for anyone of any age. UM, it can get

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>real messy. We've seen it in the news time and

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>time again. Uh So yeah, get your living will taken

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>care of. And I think you can also just do

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like a blanket, like, don't don't take any heroic measures

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>to save me and I don't want to be on

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>any kind of life support mine mine says, do never

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>ever unplug me. Really, I want to be a burden

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>on my family for the rest of my life, as

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>long as that machine can keep me alive. I want

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>to be shaved once a week from top to bottom.

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>All Right. That segways nicely into odd things that can

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>happen stipulations with your will? Nice Is that how we

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>should finish up? Yeah, totally. You can have requirements of

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>your big quest stores. No, the beneficiaries and officiaries like, hey,

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>this article. I know it was a long time ago.

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Um Like, hey, I want I want to give my

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>son the majority of my fortune, but he's got a

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>finish college first. Or quit smoking. I saw thinking of

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>me when you wrote that. That was not you were

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>smoking a ton back then, though, yes you were. Um, So,

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some funny and and odd things in

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>history with wills. Josh finished on a lighter note. Well,

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>there's Portuguese aristocrat Luis Carlos de Norona Coporal the Camara.

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>That's terrible, and that sounded like I took a bite

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>of peanut butter towards the end. Do you want to

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.959
<v Speaker 1>do that? One. Well, I'll now that you said his name, Um,

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what he did. He picked seventy so

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to try that one. He picked seventies strangers,

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>random strangers from a phone book in lisbon and at

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 1>thirteen years before he died and said, these are the people,

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:03.240
<v Speaker 1>but don't tell him. It's going to be just a

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>big surprise. Yeah. And some people thought they were being

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>conned if I did that and I died, everybody there

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>be um seventies strangers each getting a one dollar bill.

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 1>But I put in my will that it had to

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>be like crisp from the bank never circulated one dollar

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>bills that make them feel good. I thought, you're gonna

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>say it like a roller quarters or something that's another

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>way to go, but that's more than a dollar. Yeah,

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you're right, Um McNair ill. Grin Fritz was a unsuccessful

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>but wealthy composer, and he said, you know what, Metropolitan

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Opera of New York, I'll leave you a hundred and

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 1>five grand if after I die, you put on this

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>opera I've I've written. And the met said, yeah, we

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>could use that money, but no thanks, which is like ouch, yeah,

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>but they said the music. It was workable. This is

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:51.239
<v Speaker 1>not not like they said, this is awful. I think

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess it just wasn't in their plan. Um. Who else, Josh,

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>who else do we have here? Ony Nermi? Yeah, finished, businessman,

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>This is this is my favorite one. Um. He apparently,

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>late in life, made some friends at the rest home

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>where he was dying, and died, I imagine, and he said,

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna leave everybody here. Uh, seven

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and eighty shares of a rubber boot company that I

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>imagine I had something to do with at some point. Um.

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>And that rubber boot company went on to become cell

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>phone giant Nokia, and all of those people became millionaires.

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I imagine all of those people's children or grandchildren became millionaires,

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think Nocchia went from a boot company

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to the cell phone biz like overnight. Um, but it

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>was still very nice. This is a good story if

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you ask me, H, these are pretty cool, Josh. Um

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>ed Headrick the inventor. Um, well, I'm not the inventor

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>of the frisbee, but he's credited with perfecting the modern frisbee.

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>He wanted to be. He took it out of its

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>original Squareship exactly. He worked for WAMO, obviously, and he

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>said he know what, I want my ashes to be

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>molded into memorial versions of the Frisbee and sell those

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and use the money from those to open up at

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Frisbee Museum. And then another guy, a Marvel comic writer,

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Mark Gruenwald, said, I would like my ashes to be

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>mixed with ink and be on a comic book. And

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>when he died young at forty two, there were four

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>thousand inc and Ashes issues of Squadron Supreme printed. Yeah,

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you be disappointed if that was the one you

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>got printed in? Well? That was probably it was probably

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>his comic though I still want to be in The Punished, Okay,

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to be in a better comic. And who

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>else Dusty Springfield? Shall we mention her? Hers just kind

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>of eat. I guess it's kind of silly. She had

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a cat name Nicholas, and Nicks had a favorite meal,

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>which was imported baby food. So she left the singer

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>of Son of a Preacher man Um. She said, you

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 1>know what, Um, Nicholas is gonna lay on my nightgown

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of nicklas Is life, and my music

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>is going to be played and lifetime supply that cat

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>food for Nicklas. Yeah. And then Leona Helmsley fifteen million

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to her dog for the care of her dog. You

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>can't actually leave money to an animal. Yeah, you can

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>like stipulate in your will that this money is for

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the care of this animal or right. And she left

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 1>her a couple of grandkids nothing and then yeah, and

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>then there was the There was the tree that owns

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 1>itself in Athens. The elderly couple that died or the

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>elderly woman that died and left this piece of land

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>apparently set up a trust for the tree so that

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>it can never be cut down or removed. And actually,

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>if you drive along the street, you have to go

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>around the roundabout that just built around the tree that

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>owns itself. It's got a little placard and a little

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>chain around it. Yea. And that tree grows up to

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the center of city Hall. And that tree grew up

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to be roy Comb. I got nothing else. I don't either.

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 1>If you want to read a fine article and by

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>a young strapping Charles W. Bryant, when he first came

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.720
<v Speaker 1>to how Stuff Works dot com, just type how wills

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 1>work into the handy search bar at how stuff works

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 1>dot Com that of course brings up listener mail. All right, Josh,

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I know you're gonna balk at this because we have

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 1>another request from a boyfriend trying to get his girl. No, no, no,

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel so bad for Timmy though. Alright, alright, Timmy

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>before we read this, dude, if you don't get back

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>in touch with us and let us know what happened,

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>we will find you. Yeah, you're dead to me, even

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>though we can't find the other guy, we will find

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>you to me since too. Yeah, and since we mentioned

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>it other guy who we proposed, we don't like you anymore.

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Just what happened there, dude. People are clamoring to know. Alright,

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>to my beloved Josh and Chuck and Jerry since two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand nine, Uh, let me skip ahead to the interesting party. Um,

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Jerry's cracking up today. Guys have been a big fan

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<v Speaker 1>since two thousand nine. One big thing that has changed

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 1>since that time was I found an absolutely brilliant girlfriend.

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>She also loves you, guys. We would spend our nights

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>together falling asleep listening stuff. You should know. She would

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>fill me in on bits I missed. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a very sweet thing. Unfortunately, recently we were having a

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<v Speaker 1>rough time of things, sort of lost perspective and the

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<v Speaker 1>spark faded. Uh, let me go ahead and tell you, Timmy,

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>do the spark like that. Spark always fades. You gotta

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>have something else going on there. Substantial Model Airplanes is

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<v Speaker 1>a good one. So we both am amicably agreed that

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<v Speaker 1>it would be easier to split after eighteen months together.

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>And the best thing we both do the same university.

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>We are have the same courses at times. He must

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<v Speaker 1>be English or something. We still chat a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>I really miss her though, and I know she misses

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<v Speaker 1>me too. You don't know that, Timmy. You're about to

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<v Speaker 1>find out we were great together and just needed this

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<v Speaker 1>time apart to sort out our heads and commit back

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<v Speaker 1>to one another. What I would like to do, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>is for you to say to Elaine, would you please

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<v Speaker 1>get back with Timmy? Go back out with him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend again. I'm sorry girlfriend. I know she'll be listening.

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 1>It would be a great way of me showing her

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<v Speaker 1>how much I still care. Or you could just talk

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>to her that's that's another thing, or that he's watching her.

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'll do any more of these. Um,

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I love her, I want to spend my future with her.

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I would be really grateful for this. So that's the deal, Timmy.

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<v Speaker 1>It says much love Elaine. Take him back or don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, Timmy, Please let us know what happens so

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<v Speaker 1>we can follow up and tell people what happened with

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>the Timmy Elne soccer and that is it. That is

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<v Speaker 1>as dead as Haiku and disco. We're not doing that anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>never again. No, all right, agreed? Okay, thanks a lot, Timmy.

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Good luck to you forever. All right, Um, Chuck, are

0:37:57.000 --> 0:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>you okay with that? No, I'm fine, because it just

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>gets out of hand and then you know, we're asking

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<v Speaker 1>people out on a first date all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>and hey, can you tell my friend Joe to pick

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<v Speaker 1>up the tab every now and then? You know, it's

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>just it's I'm okay with that one. Okay, Yeah, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how I feel about freeloaders. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna let's call for that in the email. Um, now,

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>we'll do that something they'll send him anyway. Okay, all right,

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